Dorothy Arnold

Kayla talks about the unsolved mystery of the disappearance of Dorothy Arnold.

Episode Transcript

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This podcast discusses true crime, whichmay tell violence, and other material intended
for mature audience. Listener discretion isadvised. Hey, it's Kayla and it's
Lexi, and we are recording asour first YouTube together. So we're gonna
see how this goes. This hasbeen uh, like what a year in
progress of us trying to get onYouTube with the recording together. Like I've

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posted a couple by myself, butlike they're just like, it's not It's
not the same as having somebody likewith you, same with when I try
and make my like mini tiktoks.I'm like, this just isn't It is
an informative? Yes, do youget the back and forth banter that I
think makes a little wicked what itis? Nope, No, it's not
to say alrighty, so let's getinto today we find it all right,

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So today we're going to talk aboutDorothy Arnold. I'm not familiar with this
case. It's a pretty old case, okay. So Dorothy Harriet Camille Arnold
was born the second of four childrenon July first, eighteen eighty five,
in Manhattan to an affluent family.Her father was Francis R. Arnold,

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a senior partner of F. R. Arnold and Company, a perfume importing
company, So she was considered welloff and an heiress. Okay, her
other yeah. So. Her othersiblings were older brother John and younger siblings
Dan and Marjorie. As a girl, she was sent to be educated at
Velton School for Girls in New YorkCity and then attended Brindmar College in Pennsylvania,

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majoring in literature and language. SoI had to retype that, like
a couple times ago, the companyPA, And I'm like, people aren't
going to know what if I hadto say PA. I forget that.
Like people from Pennsylvania we just callit PA. We don't bother saying Pennsylvania.
Yeah, I'm like, if somany in other countries listening to this,
I'm not gonna know what PA is. So like in Pennsylvania is the

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first line of a haikup, There'sso many syllables in it. So she
graduated college in nineteen oh five andwent to live at home to pursue a
writing career. In spring of nineteenten, she submitted a short story to
the McClure magazine, but it wasrejected her friends and family, who thought
her aspirations were silly, made funof her for being rejected, which that's

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not cool. What the heck?Alliaty friends and new family always been the
way that it is, you know, Like apparently when Lady Gaga was in
I want to say her the highschool or college, a bunch of people,
like a bunch of her classmates madea group that was like, Stephanie
Germanada, you will never be famous. I think I've your imagined for Can

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you imagine telling Lady Gaga that shewas never going to be famous? Like,
I hope they're embarrassed. Probably changedtheir names by now. The whoops,
did not see that coming. Therisk, I tuck was calculated,
But boy am I bad at math? But yeah, so this girl needs

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new friends and new family because like, just make it fun of her.
She had then asked her father foran apartment in the Greenwich village, but
he responded that she's not allowed tomove out of the house and that a
good writer can write anywhere. Mindie, She's twenty five years old at this
point and he's forbidding her from movingout of the house. Ew, that's
weird. It's very weird. Idon't know if it's like, because it's

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like the early nineteen hundreds, that'swhat they did until like you got married.
Yeah, I'm not sure. Iwasn't. Clearly, I wasn't there
back then. We don't have atime machine for the podcast yet, not
yet, it's next. We justgot the YouTube. She continued to pursue
writing at home, but with nosuccess. On the warning of December twelfth,

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nineteen ten, she told her motherthat she was going to go dress
shopping for Marjorie's debut taunt party thatwas coming up. And that just sounds
fancy. I don't know what adebut talk party is. Oh, I
was hoping you were gonna tell me. I'm like, what's the debut talk
party? No, I don't know. It would google that. I don't
have any clue at a spell that. I don't know. It's probably just
like a fancy coming of age party. I don't know, it's like a

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French keyt san yerna. Alrighty,let's see where was I. Her mother
assisted that she go with her,but Dorothy rejected, saying she'll she'll just
call the house if she finds asuitable dress. So she left around eleven
thirty twelve, o'clock noon that daywith around thirty dollars in her pocket,
and that thirty dollars an equal todayis nine hundred and thirty dollars. Just

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a fun fact, doesn't that wort? Like I knew that thirty bucks was
going to be like a hot stackof cash, you know, but I
wasn't expecting that hot of a stackof cash. Yeah, it kind of
made me sick a little bit.I ran into someone the other day that
just had that on them that Theywere just like like something I can't remember.
It was something of one thousand dollars, like oh, I have that

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on me, and they just pulledit out in cash, and I was
like, what, who does thatanymore? What like, let me just
bring out my thousand dollars? Likeokay, So somebody did that at at
work one day. It was likethis people, these people who came into
hospitalize their dogs. She's like,oh, I have the cash for the

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down payment, mind you, adown payment where I work is at least
three thousand dollars. She just whippedit out of her purse. Like it's
not shocking to me that someone hadthat money liquidatable on hand. It was
shocking to me that it was incash. Like I one time took out
like three hundred bucks to give somemoney to my roommate for like a piece
of furniture or something that we allpitched in on, and I got pickpocketed,

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And like losing that three hundred dollarsin cash was devastating. I can't
imagine having three thousand in on meright. Like they they were kind of
bougie, like I'm not gonna lie, but they love the dog. They
did went over there for the dogs. That was like whatever good for that?
Maybe they had come back from adebutante party probably, or like the
pinata is just full of cash.That's probably what it's like to be like

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a Kardashian child. Probably. Shewalked from her house on seventy ninth Street
to the Park and Tilford store atthe corner of Fifth Avenue and fifty ninth
Street, where she bought half apound of chocolate, and then she walked
twenty two blocks, which is aboutone and one point four miles south to
Brentsona's bookstore, where she bought abook called Engaged Girl Sketches, a collection

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of humorous essays written by Emily CalvinBlake. That's that long walk. Yeah,
that's a very long walk. Sowhile leaving the store, she ran
to her friend Gladys ran into herfriend Gladys King. They discussed Marjorie's party
that was coming up and how theywere both dress shopping. Before departing,
Dorothy said she was going to gothrough Central Park before making her way home,

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so there weren't really any ports thather going into a dress shop.
But by early evening she did notreturn home, which was unusual for her.
She never missed a meal with herfamily without calling first, so the
family immediately was worried about her.However, they did not call the police
reporter missing. That's a bit bizarre, like they get I guess they weren't

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that worried. Yeah, they I'llget into it. They called all her
friends to see if anyone had seenher or knew where she would be,
and no one knew anything. Alittle after midnight that night, Dorothy's friend
Elise Henry no Elsie Henry called thehouse to see if she showed up.
Mary, Dorothy's mother, picked upthe phone. Instead of telling her that

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she was still missing, she toldElsie that Dorothy had eventually showed up,
but when she asked to speak withher, Mary told Elsie that Dorothy had
a headache and had gone to bedfor the night. It's a little strange,
It is a little suspicious, butthat was like a friend of hers
that said that. Yeah. Herfriend asked like, can I speak to

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her? And her mom's like,no, she's in bed. Weird even
though she's not really home. Soit's not fully known why she lied to
ELC, but some speculate that itwas because the family did not want media
attention on the matter. It wasspeculated that an incident in nineteen oh nine
influenced them to keep quiet, andthe incident was that a thirteen year old

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girl named Isabelle Adele Boas disappeared fromCentral Park and was eventually found of runaway
and then came back. The family, who was also an upperclass, affluent
family, had been shamed and scandalized, and the Arned family wanted to avoid
a similar fate, so it's allabout saving face. Basically, they're like,
maybe she just ran off, Likeit's not usual for her to not

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come home, but maybe she'll comeback, and we don't want to cause
a big deal about it. Okay, So the following morning, the contacted
family friend John S Keith, whowas also a lawyer and private investigator,
to try and find Dorothy. Hecame over and searched her bedroom and saw
that none of her clothes soemed tobe missing, and he also found personal
letters with foreign postmarks on her desk, two folders for transatlantic ocean liners,

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and burned papers in the fireplace thatwere presumed to be the failed short stories
that were sent to McClure's magazine.Keith had gone on to visit jail's hospitals,
morgues, and everywhere else that shewould have usually gone, and found
no sign of her. He checkedthroughout New York City, Philadelphia, and
Boston. After a while, hesuggested that the family hire the Pinkerton Detectives

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to see if they could find anytrace of her. The Pinkerton Detectives searched
hospitals and places she went to,but still found nothing. They started to
think she eloped with Amanda Europe tothe ocean liner papers on her desk.
They also kind of speculated that becauseshe bought half a pound of chocolate in
a book, they were like,well, maybe she was getting ready for

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a trip, So they also investigatedall the train lines in the area to
see like maybe she took the chocolatein a book to ride on a train
for a couple hours to meet witha man and a lope. So this
led them to search marriage records forany woman named Arnold, but they came
up empty handed. Agents were thensent overseas to search ocean liners, but

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still found nothing. After all ofthis was no closer to finding Dorothy.
The Pinkertons and Keith told the Arnoldfamily that the next step would be the
NYPD. They refused at first,but then they gave in. The police
advised that the family hold a pressconference to get more publicity. They once
again resisted, but then agreed.On January twenty fifth, nineteen eleven,

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a press conference was held where Francisoffered one thousand dollars reward for any information
leady to find his daughter. Andfun fact, one thousand dollars is about
thirty grand oh boy. So I'mlike, I'm really suspicious about this whole
thing already. So her parents arethe ones that are pushing this effort to
find her, but they were alsothe ones that lied and said she was

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home when she wasn't yeah, okay, okay, don't like that. It's
a little strange, just a littlebit. So the reporters asked if she
could have run off with a man, but Francis denied this. She did
not date much, and he said, quote, I would have been glad
to see her associate with more youngmen than she did, especially some young
men of brains in position one whoseprofession or business would keep them occupied.

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I don't approve of young men whohave nothing to do end quote. So
basically I want her to want herto date. But like actual men that
I approve of, did they trafficher to some wealthy guy? Mm hm
not. Well, this case isunsolved. Like not to be a spoiler,
but like it's unsolved, so whoknows? Okay, the reporters should

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find out that he was alluding toa man that Dorothy had been seeing named
George Grisham Junior. She met himin college and the two were romantically involved.
However, her parents did not approveof him. He was a forty
two year old engineer who lived withhis parents who did whatever they did,
so he really he didn't really work, He didn't do much. He just
kind of slugged around and hung outwith his parents lived with his parents.

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He came from a wealthy family andlived with them at the Kenmore Hotel in
Pittsburgh, PA. It was alsodiscovered that in September of nineteen ten,
Dorothy had lied to her parents sayingthat she was staying with a friend named
Theodora in Boston, but it wassoon discovered that she instead spent a week
in a hotel with Grissom. Huh, I mean, I mean she's twenty

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five. Like I feel like Ifeel like she should kind of be allowed
to do that, you know whatI mean? She wants like I think
at that age, like even thosethe nineteen hundred's, I kind of get
it. But like she's still she'stwenty five years old, Yeah, exactly.
She was forbidden parents found out aftershe pawned five hundred dollars worth of

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jewelry to pay for their escapade.She was then forbidden to see him,
but still talk to him despite herparents' wishes. Then they saw each other
in November before he left for anItalian vacation with his parents. So after
her disappearance, he was found tobe in Florence, Italy, the Arnolds
sent a telegram saying she was goneand asking him if he knew anything about
where she might be. He saidhe didn't know anything, and in January,

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her brother John went to Italy tointerrogate Grisham, who was still maintained
that he knew nothing. John demandedthat Grissom give him any letters that were
between he and Dorothy. So Johnclaimed that there was nothing useful in them,
so he destroyed them. And Ifound this a little weird because,
like, what you want to provethat there's nothing in them? Like,
I feel like I could go oneof two ways, Like he really found

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nothing in them so just destroyed them, or there was something in them that
he didn't want to get out yeahelyLike I feel like, if there's nothing
in them, why not just pitchhim? Yeah, you just destroy them.
So Grissom came back to the USin February and said he intended to
marry Dorothy when she returns if hehas Mary's permission, which he did not.

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In the same month, the SanFrancisco Chronicle reported that hotel staff where
Grissom was staying saw a veiled womanthat was believed to be Arnold. So,
according to the staff, the twotalked and she seemed agitated, but
nothing more came of this. Theynever really said if it was like Dorothy
or not. I'm speculating that itreally wasn't because nothing really came of it.

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In the following months, he hadspent thousands of dollars on ads asking
her to come home. At theend of January nineteen eleven, the NYPD
had considered the case closed, believingshe left of her own accord. Being
that they can't find anything and shewas an adult who could do what she
wanted. The family believed her tobe dead. I mean, look,

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on the one hand, like,yes, that is an adult who can
do what she wanted. But ifnone of her friend's family, et cetera
are hearing from her, that doesn'tsound like an adult just doing what she
wants. I know, they're kindof like banking on like the idea that
she eloped. Yeah, because sheran away somewhere. Francis believed that she

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was mugged in Central Park and throwninto Central Park Reservoir. He cited two
clues that he had like as hisdefense, but he didn't disclose what they
were. So he's like, Ihave this evidence, but I'm not telling
you what it is, which againis kind of weird. Is there a

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single person in this case that isn'tacting suspicious? Not really, No,
it's nothing but suspicion. Great.So, days following the announcement of her
disappearance, her photo and information wasspread across the US, Canada, and
Mexico, and the New York Timescovered her story daily. The NYPD got
called daily about supposed sightings, butthey never panned out to be her.

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The family even got two ransom noteswritten to them about sending money for her
return that also turned out to behoaxes, which that just makes you the
worst kind of person, like takingadvantage of a family who lost to somebody.
Yeah, in February, the familygot a postcard signed from Dorothy saying,
quote, I'm safe, but theybelieved it to be fake as well,

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so they said the handwriting was likehers, but it could have been
copied from the handwriting samples that theyput in the newspaper from her writings.
The NYPD officially stopped the investigation,believing her to be dead. So the
theories have started to erupt from thiscase about what people think had happened to
her. So one theory is thatshe slipped on ice and got a case

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of amnesia. But this doesn't reallyhold up, as there was no record
of a woman looking like her goingto a hospital for a head injury.
Plus, I feel like that's kindof far fetched. Yeah. She was
also thought to be drugged and kidnappedfrom the park, but some considered it
unlikely due to being missing on abusy street in broad daylight. But I
mean, that's can still happen,Like you see it all the time,

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like people just people do see it, but they assume somebody else to do
something about it. Like I forgetwhat that's called, like bystander oh,
bystander effect. Yeah, yeah,byystander effect. Grissom theory sas she had
committed suicide, referring to a lettershe wrote him that alluded to suicidal thoughts
after her second rejection. It wentquote, well, the story has come

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back. McClure's has turned me down. Failure stares me in the face.
All I can see ahead is along road with no turning. Mother will
always think an accident had happened.End quote. Yeah that last line,
mother will think an accident has happened. That it is seemingly it's very suspicious
of a possible suicide. Yeah,that's like before that it was like,

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Okay, she's just kind of depressed, but now it's like, I don't
know, it could be Yeah,so it seems like she just really wants
to be a writer. She reallywants to do this thing. She can't
quite get it. Everyone no oneis like on her side, Like,
no one is on her team.Everyone's making fun of her, and her
parents are like, you can't leavethe house, but we really want you

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to start dating people that we approveof. And it sounds like the one
person she wanted they didn't approve of. M h. Yeah, So it's
it could not have been easy beingin her shoes. Like some people probably
thought she's an heiress. She hasthe ward her fingertips, but like she
doesn't have support. She can't she'sstruggling with her career. She can't have
who she wants. So you neverknow what's going on in somebody's mind.

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Yeah, friends and family thought suicideas well due to her basically failing relationship
with Grissom because it was forbidden.So a more widespread rumor came out that
she had become pregnant and wanted toterminate the pre ignancy, but had died
during the procedure and was buried orcremated. I get it, because when

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women went were pregnant out of wedlockin that time, they would just sort
of like disappear for a while.Yeah, they would like go on a
trip for a couple months to eitherhave the baby or terminate the baby.
Yeah. In April nineteen sixteen,an illegal abortion clinic was rated by police
that was ran out of a basementin Bellevupa, Pennsylvania. It was ran

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by doctor C. C. Meredithand was known as the House of Mystery
due to the amount of women whowould go missing from there after dying from
the procedure. I can see beingdesperate, but I don't know if I
would be so desperate as to goto a place called House of Mystery because
I might die. I don't knowthat. I know that. I know
that basically back alley you know,for a bat lack of a better term,

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back alley abortions were considerably more dangerousthan like a safe and legal procedure
nowadays. But I don't know ifthat kind of thing is like common even
for that like was it common forwomen to seek those abortions and then just
go missing all the time or wasthat place specifically just like really bad at
it and very much an anomaly.Yeah, no idea like they could have

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it might have been worse if itwas known as like house of mystery.
Yeah, like if it had avery specific reputation for that. Mm hmm.
Yeah. It's like you see womengoing in that house and like they
just don't come out. Yeah.Doctor H. E. Lutz testified that
doctor Meredith told him that Dorothy diedthere and was burned in the furnace with
the other women who ended up dyingthere. The DA believed it, but

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her father did not, and hecalled it a ridiculous story. Two months
later, John Keith got a tipfrom an attorney in Pittsburgh that Dorothy was
in a sanatorium, but it turnedout to not be her. In April
of nineteen sixteen, a fella namedEdward Glenoris, who was shield for extortion,
told the Warden that he was paidtwo hundred and fifty dollars to bury

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a woman's body. In December ofnineteen ten, his acquaintance named Little Louis
hired him to drive a woman froma home in New Rochelle to West Point,
New York, and at the NewRochelle house, he and Louis met
a man who went by Doc andanother man who fit the description of Grissom
doesn't say if it was Grisome,but it says they alluded to it looking

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like him. Okay, So theyloaded in an unconscious woman in the car
and took her to a house andwe hawk in New Jersey. He said
he was told it was Dorothy Arnold. He was even able to identify a
ring on her finger that she owned. She ended up dying during some operation,
so he buried her in a cellarin New Rochelle. When he was

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approached for an interview by officials,he denied, saying any of this,
what is going on? Like whyare all of these people like, yeah,
yep, we killed her and disposedof her body, and then just
like yeah, no we didn't,and yeah, like this case could go
roughly one hundred million ways. Yeah. So they looked at a few sellers

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in New Rochelle but found nothing.For years, there would be alleged sightings
of her that would turn out tonot be her, and the family continued
to get letters signed with her name. Her father spent two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars trying to find her andmaintained that she was kidnapped and killed.
He died April sixth, nineteen twentytwo. Mary was more hopeful that she

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was alive, and she died Decembertwenty ninth, nineteen twenty eight, and
her case is still unsolved to thisday. Oh wow, and that is
the case of Dorothy Arnold. Itsounds like, I mean, truly,
this is one of those cases whereit sounds like anything could have happened to
her, Like we have anything fromlike dying in a house of mystery to

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for some reason she was unconscious withpossibly grishom so she eloped with a man
to Europe to take potential suicide,Like I mean anything, Yeah, there's
not really And like the thing is, there's not really any clues as to
what happened to her, Like there'sno paper trail besides like going to those

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two stores. There's no witnesses exceptthat one girl who saw her in passing.
There's nothing her parents who were like, yeah, she's home, but
then we're like but then they werelike, oh, shoot, she's not
now we have to launch thousands uponthousands of dollars into these efforts to recover
her. Like that, that's justodd, you know. Like I feel
like if they did it, orif they were responsible, why would they

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go so hard into finding her.I don't think they were responsible, but
I do think they knew something thatthey weren't willing to discuss. Hm.
It seems likely. I mean betweenthe burnt papers and then pretending she was
home when she wasn't, Like,something is going on. Like maybe they
I don't know, maybe they didn'tfully know what happened to her, but
I feel like they saw something ina letter or like, especially since her

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brother destroyed those letters, I feellike something somebody knew something, but they
weren't discussing it out of fear forruining their reputation. Yeah, but yeah,
so let me know what you guysthink. You guys can leave comments
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That's where the ghost was that onetime we were recording and there was a
ghost. But like, I havea ton of space that I could turn
into a cute little recording studio.I literally just need like furniture and decorations,
but I am not willing to spendmoney on right now. Gotta go

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rate a thrift shop for some stringlights or something. Yeah, that's all
you need, Like just hang upa tarp. You'll be fine. It's
just it's all fun in games untilmy cat decides to like walk across and
people have to like look at mycat's butt and me like wrestling her to
like get off my laptop. BecauseI think that happened the last time you
and I were recording on this scord. Sorry, well, now since it's

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on YouTube, people can really lookat your cat's butthole. Likely fans wonderful,
please enjoy my cat her. ButI don't know what is about cats,
Like why do they need to showyou, Like why are cats like
like this is your face? Whyare they're like, hey, here it
is in case you haven't seen it. I don't. It's my emotional support

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butthole look at it right, Hey, you know, don't cheer you up.
Like no one has ever wanted tobe two inches away from a cat's
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the best thing in the world forpeople. It just is. I have
no idea. I'm glad my dogdoesn't do that. My dog kind of

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my dog greets people with his butt. He like walks forward and then he
walks sideways with his butt out.Willy willy, sort of put together with
spare parts. It's fine, it'sexcussible. Yeah, that's okay. So's
So's Luna. I don't know whathappened. You know, we got her

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at age three. I don't knowwhat happened before then. I don't know
if she She looks fine, she'shealthy. She just she doesn't know she's
a sheba. She's like weirdly affectionateand yells at her own tail. And
I don't mean yell. She doesn't. She doesn't bark. I just hear
like a I look over and she'sjust chasing her tail. I'm like,

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is that normal? This is myfirst Sheba. I don't know if someone
tell me if that's normal sheba activities. Well, then in a couple of
weeks and one had that puppy thatWilly is going to be teaching all this
nonsense too, and between the twoof them will have like half a brain
cell. Oh, I'm so backand forth. I'm so excited this.
I love this dog, but shehas orange cat levels of intellect. I

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but like it's also a built inwebcam. One of these days I
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remember sometimes they could be hacked into, so I unplug it when I'm not
using it. I think. Ilike the I had They sell like it's
like five dollars and you stick iton and you just you just like you
just flip it, you know,when you're not when you're not using it,
you just flip it closed. Ilike how people and know they're like,
yeah, like this happens, soinstead of fixing it, here's a

(29:51):
sticker. I know. Sometimes hey, I mean, that's that's the you
know, I feel like the biosecuritysolution or the biosecurity cybersecurity solution. It's
probably really expensive, but sticker isthree cents. The sticker is cheap.
Uga uga ya hey, well inon uga we will leave you guys.

(30:22):
I think that was uh, thatwas mysteriously wicked. I think that was
suspiciously wicked. That was suspiciously wicked.