Modern Mystery School

This MLM, disguised as a school, promises to teach students that after spending tens of thousands of dollars, they can learn magic and other spiritual abilities. 

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This podcast discusses true crime, whichmay tell violence, and other material intended
for mature audience. Listener discretion isadvised. Hey, it's Kayla and it's
Lexi, and sorry that we've beenkind of m i A. We've both
just been really busy and the podcasthasn't taken precedence. But we're back.
We have a new episode for you, guys, so we'll just dive into

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it because it's kind of let mesee if I can minimize it a little
bit so I can actually see thescreen. So the funny thing about that
is Eric got me one, butI didn't like it because I didn't have
enough space on my desk and itdrove me nuts. There we go,
alrighty, so it's kind of ait's like a cult today. Ooh,

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but it's a school too, theschool cults. We're talking about the modern
mystery school. Have you heard ofthis? Why does it sound like something
that would be on an episode ofScooby Doo. Yeah. By the way,

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guys, we don't have a guesta host today. This is just
how I sound. That's also whywe didn't record last week. I'm recovering
from larrynch Eidis I don't want peopleto see the episode be like, where
was Lexi and who was that person? It's me, she just started smoking
ten packs days all. I'm doingthe one hundred vague challenge, Doctor says

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I. Doctor says, I gotthat dog in me. Not sure why
he called it mesothelioma, though,I feel so un serious to being like,
all right, back to the magicalmystery school. Mystery school witchcraft is
so in the world. There area total of seven mystery schools. Six

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of them are completely closed to thepublic, and the seventh one is the
Modern Mystery School. Yeah there's morethan one, Okay, So these schools
have existed for thousands of years andare often associated with the occult. These
schools are the Tibetan, Japanese,English, North American, Australian, Romanian,

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and African Mystery Schools. So Ithink it's kind of crazy that these
have existed for thousands of years.Yeah, and literally all of it.
Would you say, Tibet, Japan, Romania, the US, England,
Australia, Africa, Oh my god, what part of Africa. I'm not

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sure. I don't know where theyreat exactly, just because that's a really
big place. It's gotta be somewhere. We arrived in Morocco and we're like,
well, we'll find it any time. Now. I wonder where the
North American one is. It's probablylike in Disney World, right, because
North America is like also a bigplace. So it's kind of like,
all right, where are we starting? Busy is going to come after us

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now that I mentioned them? Ohno, we get to see some desist
letter. So each has its ownorigins such as Lemuria, Middle Earth,
Atlantis, Gods of Space, NorthernGods, and lineage of King Solomon.
So remember La Muria was from theLove has One Culled, so they lived
in Muria. It's just like oneof those that's where people started, like

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Atlantis, one of those crazy placesthat they believe, like people started Middle
Earth. Isn't that from the Lordof the Rings? Yeah, like I
think that's where the Hobbits live.Yeah, I've never seen one of the
Rings. Don't come after me.I've tried when I was younger at to
try again. I just couldn't getinto it when I was younger. I've
somehow evaded so many people in mylife, being like, you've never seen

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a Lord of the Rings. Wegot to sit down and watch all nineteen
hours of it or whatever. I'mlike, that sounds awful. Like we
maybe start with like twenty minutes tosee if I'm into it, and then
we can maybe make the commitment fromthere. But yes, I've also avoided
seeing one of the rings, butI have enough geek friends that I like
kind of know the synopsis. Yeah. Yeah, So THEIRS site offered classes

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such as Awaken Thyself, Empower Thyself, Sacred Geometry, Actual Travel, and
Spiritual Intuition. I don't know what'ssacred geometry. Uh, sacred geometry,
let's take Oh Google says there's somethingwrong. Don't like that. Ascribe symbolic

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and sacred meanings to certain geometric shapesand geometric proportions. Oh it's pretty.
Oh I wonder if this is likeMarcabas and okay, Tree of Life.
I recognize that one. Oh andthe Yeah, I was right, basically
they're here, you go. It'sa bunch of pretty shapes. Oh,

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okay, geometry, it kind oflooks like one of those things that like
whenever you put your pencil down,like the plastic thing you just move in
circles. Yeah, shapes. Yeah, that's because that's what we were doing
for recasting spells when we were likefive. That's cure. Today we are

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focusing on the Modern Mystery School,which is an international organization that claims to
train and certify healing practitioners and teachersin the tradition of the lineage of King
Solomon. Okay, so we'll startwith the experience of one of the former
students named Bernice van Eck in Septembertwenty fourteen. She was a thirty three

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year old that was once a fashionconsultant at Cape Town. So Bernice thought
that at a young age she possessedpsychic abilities, and in two thousand and
six she was troubled with dreams fromthe spirit world. She went to a
medium who recommended that she go tothe Modern Mystery School. She got a
Hogwarts kid. Yeah, it washer, Darry. Oh, that sounds

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believable with my vocal cords in thestate they're in. Wow, that was
very on point. Thank you.She went and it took her eight years
to get to this next task.To get there, she spent hours upon
hours in meditation and tens of thousandsof dollars. I don't have that kind

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of money to throw it a magicalmystery school, it gets expensive. So
the task is that she and otherswere left in the forest of Mount Fuji
for three days and three nights formeditation. Each just had one water bottle
to last them for three days,no food, nothing else, just the
water bottle. Was it at leasta big water bottle? I don't know,

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hopefully, because that's a lot ofthat's a long time to go without
anything else. Yeah, So whenthe students came off the mountain, they
saw fresh graves had been dug.They were told to lay in them,
and then a plastic sheet was drapedover them, and they started to feel
dirt being thrown onto them. Shewas unsure of how long this went on,
like she just kind of blacked outor something. She was like,

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I don't know if it's been hours, minutes, however long. But she
was the under the dirt, andeventually the sheet came off and she exited
the grave. With this, shepassed the test and went on to become
a third step ritual master. Okay, okay, I don't even have anything

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yet. I just because I knowyou're that's just one example. Yeah,
it's just one example of what theywent through. Oh boy, I couldn't
imagine being like put in a graveand like having dirt thernomic. I'm not
claustrophobic, but the fact that myanxiety is like they're gonna leave you here,
You're gonna die in a grave,right right right, and like that,
like you know, my comorbid mentalillness is one it's gonna be like

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this is what's gonna happen, andthe other one's gonna be oh so true,
Bessie, Like thanks, I wouldsimply not survive. So this school
calls itself the Harvard of Metaphysics.It has a major presence in Canada,
the US, Japan, South Africa, and Brazil, and it claims to've
had students from over sixty countries andits mission is creating peace on this planet

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by uplifting the hearts and minds ofhumanity. So it sounds like like the
way they present themselves like wholesalm andlike we're just a bunch of like hippies
who are going to like use ourcrystals and healing abilities any such cases.
I feel like we've been doing thispodcast long enough that if someone comes to
you and they're like we're all aboutpeace and love and crystal healing. You're
just kind of like, where's thewhite supremacy? Like, where are you

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fighting it? Surprisingly, I didn'tsee any outward supremacy. Is mainly oh
okay, you know you know what. Yeah, a win is a win,
all right. And abuse and sexualexploitation later. We'll get into that

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later. I spoke too soon.I'm putting the celebration back in my body.
Students have come forward and said thatit took at least twenty thousand dollars
to reach a top rank, andeven more to keep going up to the
pyramid. It kind of sounds likethis is scientology like that. Yes,
yeah, scientology is exactly like that. It's really not really a pyramid scheme,

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you know. It's more of likea like a suspicious triangle maybe something
with a wide base and a pointat the top. So former students claim
to have spent hundreds of thousands ofdollars. So where are they getting all

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this money? Well, they areencouraged to start their own spiritual business and
are offered classes such as marketing basicsfor professional light workers. There are multiple
esoteric shops in my town. Like, do you think any of them are,
can I do? Oh? Probably, Like I just went to a
mind Body Spirit expo and I'm sureat least one of those like booths was

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like part of this. This isamazing. So there are more than nine
hundred certified practitioners worldwide with hundreds ofschools affiliates such as the Sacred Vibrations and
Sky Spirit Healing. They offer servicessuch as psychic readings, crystal healings,
and exorcisms. Critics of the schooland former students claim that this school is

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actually a cult and a spiritual pyramidscheme that deals with psychological trauma, debt,
and relationship breakdowns, and others spokeout about bullying and sexual exploitation.
Well, yeah, you know whatthis is making me think of. Please
tell me you've seen the thing wherethere's the alpha male boot camps where it's

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just a bunch of dudes who arepaying like like thousands of dollars to just
go and be tortured and degraded bylike other dudes because it'll turn them into
alpha males or whatever. And likeso many people are dunking on it because
they're like nothing screams alpha male,like paying thousands of dollars to be dominated
by another man. Yeah, andit's it's I mean that sounds also like

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a scam, like conspiracy theory,like like you're just gonna cash in on
like this, this is cashing inon like wellness stuff, that's cashing in
on like a Man of Sphere weirdness. But at the end of the day,
all you need is an idea andto be half decent at marketing,
and you can convince people to giveyou thousands of dollars for anything that's true.
Like it's so easy. It soundslike to start a call. You

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just need to have like an ideathat people will fall for, or like
make it a pyramid. You haveto make it fun for rich people,
is what I'm hearing. So thisschool was founded by a man named Goodie
good Nason. He was Yeah,he was born in Iceland, May Night,
nineteen fifty eight. Oh it's anIcelandic name, Okay. Yeah.

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He claimed his twin brother died thirtyminutes after birth, and his spirit stayed
with him to send him teachings fromthe spirit realm. He claims to have
read thousands of books, ranging fromalchemy and astrology to quantum physics. In
that he was descended from Thor,which I'm sure. I'm sure he's descended
from Thoor. He instructs his studentsto watch movies like The Matrix and Mary

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Poppins. I don't Mary Poppins,may we'd like for maybe because she's magical.
I guess like Matrix. I'me yeah, that makes sense. But Mary
Poppins, that one got me.As a youth, he joined the Mystery
School in England, which was theHermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. Like

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these are very dramatic names. Everyname I've said so far is so over
the top dramatic. What I thoughtoriginally when you had mentioned his name is
I thought it was like a chosenname, like I you know how a
lot of these people they get inthese wellness cults and they're like they pick
a new name for themselves, likefeather Sunshine. Like that's what I thought.
Like I thought, I thought hewas born like Brad Johnson, you

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know, and he picked like StrawberryFields. Nope, that's just his Icelandic
name, which is just kind ofodd that. I don't know if it's
normal for his Islandic names to soundssimilar to the last names Good, Nick,
Good, Nason, like it haslike the same Like, yeah,
I know this because I believe ornot. I know this because of CrossFit.

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So apparently the naming tradition is forit to be the parent's name and
then either son or daughter after it. Like for example, Annie Thor's daughter,
her father's name is Thor, soher last name is Thor's daughter.
And then like if she had abrother, his name would be like you
know, John Doe Thorson. Sothat's like that's the Icelandic naming tradition,

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Okay. He goes on to saythat he had studied with many ancient mystery
schools in Tibet, Africa, Transylvaniaand Japan and is a martial arts master
a doctor of metaphysics. He wasawarded Poet of the Year and trained to
bodyguards of the Dalai Lama. He'sgot a resume going, that's a rap

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sheet. Yeah. He planned toopen Iceland's first bodyguards school, which would
be teaching firearms, map reading anddriving. However, this was short lived
and months later he opened a gymin Rakshevik where he taught fujika doe,
which is a martial art that hecreated himself okay, and he offered yeah,

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and he offered crystal readings and energymassage. I think I've seen people
do that on TikTok Live. Thiskind of sounds like a Reichy, right,
Yeah, he's more like your cheese. I'm sorry, it's oh,
cheese, like the plural of cheese. Yeah, not cheese. That's where

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your mind was going. I waslike, what do you be cheese?
Not long after, the police launchedan investigation into a tournament where he that
he hosted, where video footage leaksshowing kids boxing without protective equipment. In
nineteen ninety five, he was acquittedof breaking the boxing band, but he

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got one year suspended sentence for havingan air rifle. After this, he
left Iceland and moved to Ogden,which is an area on the edge of
the Rocky Mountains in Utah, wherehe started money making schemes. He met
and married Laurie Seacrest, who wasa psychic and spiritual healer. Together they
ran the Trilite Foundation, I SpotIt Wrong, Triolite Foundation and Some,

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which was a seminar company that teachestechniques to create a mental state of peace
and joy, and they sold productslike the Elixir of Life, which was
named antimony that claimed to open yourconnection to God. Isn't isn't antimony just
a it's just an element, Ithink. So I couldn't find what was
actually in it. Once again,Google, it's a rock unless they're just

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it's they're calling it something. Ithink it was just called antimony, like
it was probably something else. Ohokay, it kind of it kind of
sounds reminding me of like again Lovehas Won, where they had like their
whole shop of all this stuff madewith like colloidal silver and stuff like that.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, coloidosilver is like really big and like
the wellness community. I actually diduse coloido silver at you know, as

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directed for a burn back in theday, not you know, for whatever
the people are doing for it now. Yeah, I just you know,
put it on a burn for youknow, every bandage change for like a
two weeks or something. Oh goodhead, Google suggestions. People also search for
ten lead germanium tongues ten ooh gotmetal enthusiasts over here. In the next

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few years, they started offering classesin neuro linguistic programming, which I'm not
sure what that is. Neural linguisticprogramming, So neural linguistic programming chaibo,
which is a moving meditation practice torelationship counseling. What Yeah, they offered
relationship counseling. Okay. Good Nasonalso opened up The The Edge Bodyguard Services,

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where he had seminars in school securityand combat shooting. In nineteen ninety
eight. He wanted to amp upthe history of the school and make up
a backstory for himself. He claimedto be from a three thousand year old
lineage dating back to King Solomon ofIsrael. Okay, I feel like statistically
he's more likely to be in lineageof Genghis Khan, just given that like

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five percent of people on the planetcan trace their lineage back to Genghis Khan.
Because he was such a ho,Like, why not claim him?
Like he was kind of a didhe have like awful dude? But I
guess he was powerful. Did hehave like dozens of children? I don't
know much about Genghis Khan so many. I think he had like hundreds and
hundreds of like wives and concubines andhad just a disgusting amount of descendants.

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That's ridiculous. Yeah, he toldstudents that he had been summoned by a
higher power to come to Utah andopen a mystery school for the public.
He named it the Rocky Mountain MysterySchool, with the slogan no More Secrets.
It's called the Mystery Schools or noMore Secrets, thank You. The
school promised to reveal the great mysteriesand the old magic of the ages of

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classes in alchemy or healing, shamanismand eroticism Curve YEAH. On May twenty
first, nineteen ninety eight, goodNason and Secrets claimed to have had contact
with aliens called Nathers whose ship landedin a lake in southern Idaho. They
said that for three weeks they wereshown their technology and asked to share it

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with the world at the School Yeah. At the school, they taught DNA
activation. In this teaching, theyteach that there are twenty four strands of
DNA, twelve physical and twelve spiritual. This practice is similar to reiche so.
Good Nason said he could activate twentytwo strands, and the knowledge to
activate the other two were given tohim by the aliens. They said the

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aliens wanted them to activate twenty percentof the world's population by two thousand and
five. We're at I'm sorry,we're activating the world's population by two thous
What happened to two thousand and five? What was the vibe shift? I
don't know what was it was that? When was that when our our holy
trinity paars, Brittany and Lindsay werehaving their their breakdowns? Roughly? Yeah,

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that's like all I can think about, like two thousand and five.
What happened in two thousand and five, the victimization of those those three celebrities.
I don't know, I don't know. I was just great. I
can't remember. I don't know.I can't believe I was in fifth grade.
Instead of buying property, students paideleven hundred dollars to attend week long

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conferences with seminars of light laser healingtechnologies, the Intergalactic Experience, and spells
and charms for women only. Okay, cool, all right to lady girls
clubs. I don't know. Ihope you guys are any you. In

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August two thousand and five, goodNason registered a business called Spartan Group AGEL
as a multi level marketing company tohelp people reach financial freedom, which it
kind of did the opposite. Yeah, if someone's telling you to pay ten
thousand dollars to reach financial freedom.They are scamming you. Step one,
they're trying to sell you something.Step one, keep the money, Keep

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the ten thousand dollars. One exstudent recalls being asked to take on more
and more responsibility for the school byhelping to organize events and recruiting hundreds of
students, all while unpaid. Likethe main goal for them was to just
keep recruiting people, recruiting and recruitingpeople who would then spend more money,
and then the school would get likea cut of that money. Yeah so

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MLM. Yeah. Others claimed beingrequired to carry out cleaning duties while and
paid, and students paid at leasteighty thousand dollars to maintain their rank,
maintain their certification, and get whatthey considered half asked training from the teachers.
Is is it reasonable for me toask what did these people do to
have this kind of money laying aroundthat they could spend it in magical mystery

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school? Like this is this whatlike Northwest is doing? You know they
with with Kim's credit card, Wellthat's what they did. They took out
credit cards and loans and everything outand you could like just do that,
like in two thousand and five,you could just get a credit card with
a credit limit of like one hundredK, you know, and then you

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could just yeah, nope, thatmakes sense. Yeah. In two thousand
and six, good Nason and Secretsdivorced and he moved to Japan and married
Iko Caruso Kurosu. He had rebrandedhis side of the organization as the Modern
Mystery School, and students of goodNason and Secrets were told to pick between
the two to finish their schooling.So these two still owned the school as

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a whole, the Rocky Mountain School, but then they split and he named
his Modern Mystery School. Okay,so those who did not pick good Nason
were lashed out at and accused ofjoining the forces of evil if they picked
a stick with Secret. Is thatlike the Dark Arts the Dark Arts?
Yeah, they're siding with Snape.The Modern Mystery School hierarchy is split into

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two paths, the Healer and theWarrior. The Healer path becomes guides and
the Warrior path becomes ritual masters,but students are required to follow both paths,
which just sounds like ridiculous, Likeit sounds like I normally, I
feel like you would pick one orthe other if you're doing something, but
you're trying to do both, sayto pay all these classes, pay for

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all this equipment, and it's triplethe money. So that's probably how they're
getting more money from these people.Oh, probably, Yeah, it's sounding
much like scientology. Yeah. Bernicevan Eck was told that the school lineage
included Plato, Da Vinci, Shakespeare, and Winston Churchill, and she learned

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sacred rituals that she would was toldwould allow her to communicate with a hierarchy
of Lights, which is a bodyof beings bridging the gap between humans and
God. Okay. The process ofgoing through the school is through initiations.
They get more expensive as you go, so each rank that you get is

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called an initiation. Okay. Andyou can also go onto the school,
go onto the School of the Mageprogram, which is a ten which is
ten weekends over three years and costsmore than eighty thousand dollars. WHOA,
you can get like undergraduate degrees forless money. Yeah. Ritual masters sign

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an agreement that they agree that theteachers will push them emotionally, mentally,
and spiritually and guides must also sustainfrom drugs, alcohol and tobacco all right.
Fair students were in charge of bringingin more students and would be reprimanded
if they failed to meet their goals. Many of them were reduced to tears

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and threat and of losing their initiationsthat they paid for in losing income by
not teaching classes. The students alsoneeded to buy equipment for classes, such
as a set of guide candles forseven hundred and fifteen dollars, Exorcism manual
for two hundred and twenty seven dollars, life Activation one for one hundred and
ninety five dollars, and in anoki and dagger for four hundred and thirty

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three dollars, which sounds like somethingthat Winchester Brothers would have from supernatural.
Students who pass the Ritual Master twopoint five initiation are required to go to
an annual Warriors of Light program,which is a several day retreat to practice
meditation, martial arts and spells.As of February twenty twenty, the fee
was thirty five hundred dollars. Holyshit. Students are encouraged to leave their

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day jobs and focused primarily on theschool and classes. And guides who teach
these classes are required to pay afee from what they make during the classes.
People who struggle to pay were simplytold to manifest the money, which
just to manifest it, like they'relike, just don't get a job,
just like sit around and think aboutit. One student ran out of money

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and was stripped of their ritual masterrank and told not to come back.
And this is where, like Isaid, people would take out loans and
max out credit cards. So sexhad become a big part of rituals as
well, saying it heightened their energyby doing sex magic. Reports of coercion
and harassment from teachers and good Masoncame out, and they told students that

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it would further their spiritual development andtold women that it would be for healing
men. This should not come asa surprise, knowing what we know about
colds. Nah. Yeah, fromwhat I was reading, like he was
always getting massages from girls, likethey were always like trying to leave girls
on a lot of the girls werelike put into situations where they were told

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like something bad would happen, orlike they would lose initiation rights and all
of this if they didn't go forwardwith having sex with their teachers. Yeah,
I mean, I feel like we'redestined to get to this point eventually.
I feel like part of being acult leader, or honestly, at

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this point, just leading a pyramidscheme is like being a predator. Yeah,
well that is all I have onthe Modern Mystery School, which is
I feel like it's a lot.I feel like my cult episodes are always
like a lot smashed into I lovethat you were like, and that's all
I have, and you just likethat. That was like that had like

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two seasons and fourteen episodes a season. That's all folks like. That was
a lot. That was a lot. I do apologize for those of us
that watch up on YouTube. Ihad to account for my toddler coming in
and demanding snacks. But yeah,that was and I will say, I
have headphones in. She is nothearing the not child friendly nature of the

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things we are discussing. But yeah, that was. That was. And
I've never heard of that cult before, which is crazy because it sounds huge.
I saw like this rumor thing thatMiley Cyrus and some other singers are
possibly part of the skull. MileyCyrus would not surprise me, unfortunately,
like Lana del Rey also, wouldn'tyou know, like not like I'm trying

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to shade Lnna del Rey's. Justif you were to be like, oh,
Lonna del Ray is in the magic, I'll be like, yeah,
okay, that tracks, you know, like that wouldn't surprise me. Yeah,
but yeah, So what do youguys think of that? Like have
you heard of this before? Doyou know anybody that was part of it?
I feel like with it being sowidespread, like we we've got to
have some listening, right, Likeyou got to know someone, you know

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what I'm saying, Like, you'vegot to know someone who is part of
it. If you have any storiesto tell or anything like that, you
can email us at a Little WickedPodcast at gmail dot com. You find
us at any of us, soshe'll send us a message. I'm always
checking it. But yeah, soI don't know. I feel like I've

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had to have come into contact withthem because I got a lot of those
like mind body, spirit type exposwhere it's like all these like practitioners,
reiki people, everything like that,and like one like somebody has to be
a part of it. My mom, hilariously enough, is actually she's actually
a certified reiki practitioner. My mom'sso funny. She's like Barbie. She

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she is a personal trainer, acertified nutritionist. She is also a reiki
like a certified reiki practitioner. There'slike two or three types of different group
fitness certifications that she has. Andshe's a data engineer. So like,
my mom's a very interesting person andshe, like my mom will reiki you

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if you want it, Like Iwill never forget the one time I was
over and my mom was petting thecat and she was like, he seems
so stressed lately. I should rakithe cats. And I'm like, how
is that just a normal Like howis this my life? How was that
like a normal thing that I hearfrom my mom? And my mom like
you probably like have a picture inyour head like, oh I have a
crunchy mom. I don't like notat all, not like remotely, not
in the least bit. She's justlike cool, you know what I mean,

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Like like I did not grow uphaving like lemon instead of medication,
you know, Like my mom isa very like traditional Western medicine person.
She just also raki's the cats.You know, it's called balance, Like
yeah, that's balance exactly. Butwell, so let's see here. I

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think that was mysteriously wicked. Ithink that was magically wicked.