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October 8, 2024 20 mins

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Dive into an inspiring chat with pediatrician and weight coach Sheila Carroll. Learn why progress trumps perfection, how to cultivate wealth beyond finances, and the power of mindset in health and weight management—all in a refreshingly practical approach.

• "Progress not perfection" in health

• Real wealth through sufficiency

• Thoughts influence eating habits

• Childhood weight and parental roles

• Coaching's future-focused power

Learn more about Sheila and her work on her website https://www.sheilacarrollmd.com/ and connect with her on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/sheilacarrollmd/

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Magic Barclay (00:43):
Welcome back to A Magical Life.
I'm your host, Magic Barclay.
And today, Sheila Carroll joinsus.
Sheila was born, raised andstill lives in Maine in the USA.
She has a master's degree inbiology and an MD from UVM.
She's been a paediatrician for20 plus years, is mum to an 11

(01:04):
year old named Theo, and is acertified life and weight coach.
In Sheila's own words, progressis healthier than perfection.
Welcome Sheila.

Sheila Carroll (01:17):
Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.

Magic Barclay (01:19):
My absolute pleasure.
We were just chatting off air alittle bit before we started
recording today.
And, you know, I love that youwere saying, let me get you to
say it in your own words aboutprogress.

Sheila Carroll (01:37):
Well, you and I were talking about, not really
slogans, but like, One thing Ijust love to tell my patients,
tell my clients, you know, thisis a long game, getting healthy,
staying healthy, enjoying beinghealthy and enjoying the things
you need to do to be healthy.

(01:58):
And so what we're really goingfor is progress and not
perfection.
And sometimes Because I see somany times that when people feel
like they can't do somethingperfectly, they can't eat
perfectly, they can't exerciseas many days as they want to,
then they just feel like, well,it's, you know, it's no use

(02:19):
doing anything.
I'll either start tomorrow orstart another time.
But it's, you know, I think ifyou just have in your mind, you
know, any little bit that I cando, progress, not perfection.
So progress is healthier thanperfection.

Magic Barclay (02:35):
I love that.
I know when I used to own a gymway back when, like a decade or
so ago, I would see people comein and they would be.
You know, upset that maybethey'd gone onto a diet or some
sort of routine and then they'dhad a slip up.
They'd had one of those, youknow, in inverted commas, cheat

(02:55):
days, and then they'd give upand they'd just start eating
whatever and doing whatever.
And I would often ask them why,and they said, well, I've
stuffed it up, so I have tostart again.
I might as well wait for nextweek.
And I said, but next week won'tcome, it'll become next month or
next year or next decade justbecause of one little slip up.

(03:16):
So I really love that you'retalking about, you know, taking
that in your stride and everystep forward is still a step
forward.

Sheila Carroll (03:26):
Yes, and if people make a quote slip up or,
you know, do something theyhadn't planned to do, that's not
really the problem.
The problem is what the personis making that slip up mean
about themselves.
So, if they eat something thatthey hadn't planned to, or don't

(03:48):
go to the gym when they plannedto, then, instead of just being
like, oh, you know, I just ate alittle bit extra here, or what,
you know, instead they make, oh,I'm a bad person, oh, I can't
follow my plan, oh, there'ssomething wrong with me, and,
that's where the problem is.
And that's where you can, youknow, really get some work done,

(04:09):
and start to look at.
What's actually going on?
After you have the drink youdidn't mean to have, or you
know, after the, quote, mistakeyou've made.
That's where there's real, moneyto be, or gold to be mined in
what's actually happening.

Magic Barclay (04:29):
Definitely, and that leads us to our first
standard question.
What can your expertise do toaccelerate health, not just
physical, but also emotional andspiritual health?

Sheila Carroll (04:43):
Well, as As you mentioned, I have expertise.
I'm a medical doctor.
I'm a pediatrician.
I'm also board certified inobesity medicine.
And I love combining that withthe mindset approach of life
coaching and the weight coachingto help people Um, and my

(05:06):
specific area of, of work reallyis helping parents, or
caregivers, grandparents,parents of kids who are
struggling with extra weight.
Helping the parents, create ahealthy lifestyle for
themselves, number one, but alsofor their child and also to ways
to work through thischallenging, time that can be

(05:28):
because sometimes You know, kidswho are struggling with extra
weight are also struggling,emotionally with that as well.
And, and when kids arestruggling, oftentimes their
parents are struggling.
So that's what I help, that'swhat I use my expertise to help
families with.
We don't really focus on theactual number on the scale so

(05:49):
much.
As we focus on overall healthand that includes emotional
health and mental health andoverall wellbeing.

Magic Barclay (06:00):
Fantastic.
We also talk about wealth here.
People think wealth is just thefinancial, but it can also be
personal and emotional wealth.
So what are your top three tipsto creating any kind of wealth?

Sheila Carroll (06:15):
Well, one thing that I do, personally, that
makes me feel wealthy, and I'mnot talking financially wealthy
here, um, I practice wantingwhat I already have, and then,
instead of wanting things Idon't have, When I can focus on,

(06:37):
oh, I've, you know, I've alwayswanted to have a child, and I
have a child.
or whatever it is for you, I'vewanted to be able to, go for a
walk today, and I'm walkingtoday, and I find like that just
gives me gives me a sense of, ofsufficiency and of abundance and

(06:58):
of having what I need.
And that's a wealthy feeling forme.
and I think everybody could dothat.
I say that to my son, sometimeshe comes home and he's like, Oh,
you know, so and so, or I saw,Has this new hockey stick or
this new bicycle or, you know,and I said, let's, let's look at
what you already have andpractice wanting what you

(07:20):
already have.
And then you can really enjoywhat you have.
And it's just so good.
That wasn't three tips, but thatwas one tip.

Magic Barclay (07:29):
That was one.
So give us two more.

Sheila Carroll (07:32):
Okay.
Other things.
Well, I, I agree that wealth,you know, being healthy is a
form of wealth, for sure.
Because if you're not healthy,you're not really able to enjoy,
very much.
If you're in pain or you're notfeeling well or you're
emotionally unwell, you're notreally able to enjoy your life.
So, I agree that focusing, or Iwould recommend focusing on a

(07:56):
healthy lifestyle, getting goodsleep, getting some movement in,
focusing on your nutrition, andemotional management skills,
that will lead to a wealthy lifeas well.
and then the last thing I guesswould be, for me, one thing that
makes me feel super wealthy ismy relationships, my
relationship with my son, myrelationship with my parents,

(08:19):
with my friends, and, in ourcoaching world, we say that a
relationship is the thoughts youhave about the other person or
the other thing.
So if you're having goodthoughts about something or
positive thoughts aboutsomething, then you're having a
good relationship.
and so I think that that isworking on your relationships

(08:41):
and working on your thoughtsabout people are, is another way
to, uh, really boost the qualityof your life.

Magic Barclay (08:49):
Terrific.
And the final standard questionis around weight.
Many people find their weight goup and down, often due to stress
related instances.
So have you ever battled yourweight?
If so, how did you win the war?
And what can you offer thelisteners who might be in this
journey right now?

Sheila Carroll (09:10):
Yes, I would say yes, I have struggled with my
weight my whole life.
I was an overweight child aboutby the time I was nine or 10
years old.
And just like you said, youknow, kind of up and down my
whole life, there were periods,you know, for me, when I when I
was feeling really happy, andthings were going well, and easy
for whatever reason.

(09:31):
I tended to not be hungry.
And so I wouldn't eat so I wouldnaturally lose a little bit of
weight And then if things gottough or stressful or something,
you know things going on reallife I would gain so I just went
up and down up and down andhonestly I was able to Really

(09:52):
get a handle on two things.
I was able to get a handle onYou The food choices I was
making when I understood, Ilearned some science actually
about weight loss that theydon't teach us in medical
school.
you know, most in medicalschool, the real, talk is about
calories in calories out.
It's an energy balance model.

(10:14):
you know, 3, 500 calories is onepound.
So you need to burn 3, 500calories to lose one pound.
Okay.
Well, it turns out that, to me,and my belief, and not all
physicians believe this, andthis is what I know is so
confusing it was confusing to mefor so long, and I know it's
still confusing to people.
But there's another theory ofweight gain and weight loss

(10:37):
called the, the carbohydrateinsulin model.
And what it really speaks to ishow insulin and insulin
resistance is what's drivingweight gain.
weight gain in today's world.
and so food choices, if you makefood choices that will keep your
insulin level low, insulin is ahormone made by your body in

(11:01):
response to, uh, foods withcarbohydrates or sugars.
But if you choose foods thatkeep your insulin level low,
when your insulin level is low,your body is able to burn The
stored energy, or the stored fatit already has, and that's how
you lose weight.

(11:22):
So it's not really a caloriesin, calories out, it's basically
trying to keep your insulinlevel low.
So, when I learned There's areally great book.
Um, if anyone's interested inthat theory, it's by a kidney
specialist named Dr.
Jason Fung.
F U N G.

(11:42):
He's a nephrologist.
He's lives in Toronto.
I believe his, the name of hisbook is the obesity code.
He's also written a book calledthe diabetes code.
great book, life changing bookfor me, I lost 45 pounds when I
started and it wasn't really adiet because It's not a start
date and an end date.
There's no rules to it.

(12:04):
Basically what you're doing, andwhat I did, is I learned to
choose foods, number one, that Ilike to eat, and number two,
that were going to serve my bodyin a way that Helped me achieve
the results I wanted so that wasthat was one thing that helped
me achieve my goal and the otherthing that helped me achieve my

(12:28):
goal was coaching and learningabout coaching and and Becoming
a coach number one, but alsolearning how to coach myself.
And what I really mean by thatis Understanding, behavior,
through a framework of the factthat our thoughts, we all have
thoughts racing through ourminds all day long.

(12:50):
Experts say we have about 60,000 thoughts a day.
so we have this superhighway ofthoughts and our thoughts create
our feelings and our feelingsdrive our actions.
So this is super important whenyou start to think about why
you're eating what you'reeating, you know, why you're

(13:10):
doing what you're doing, whyyou're not doing what you want
to be doing.
It all comes back tounderstanding your thoughts that
you're having.
and because our thoughts createour feelings, and our feelings
drive our actions.
so that was the second, that waslike a missing link for me that
I had never understood.

(13:32):
Like, why am I eating this whenI know I really don't want to
be?
Like, I'm telling myself I don'twant to be eating this, but yet
I find myself eating it.
I could go back, using thisframework, and unravel.
what I was really thinking andfeeling before I chose to eat
that.

(13:52):
So both of those things werepowerful life changers for me.

Magic Barclay (13:57):
Thank you for sharing that now we've covered a
fair bit already, but I want toopen the floor to you now,
Sheila, what's something thatyou do or that you want to
discuss that you feel thelisteners need to hear today?

Sheila Carroll (14:12):
Well, sometimes there's so much I want to be a
hopeful message for people.
I know weight is such astruggle.
I struggled for decades, uh,literally.
And, people feel bad.
I felt bad about myself.
I didn't understand what wasgoing on.
I felt different.
but I, I want people to knowthat they can make changes.

(14:36):
It's not too late.
It's never too late, for adultsand it's easier than you think.
And when you start to do it,it's so freeing.
And.
You just feel so empowered andLike, free, that you're finally
living the life you want.
and then for parents who I, Ihave this drive to help kids,

(15:00):
you know, as, as I always haveas a pediatrician, and today in
the U.
S.
we have, you know, a fairnumber, we, we think somewhere
between 20 and 30 percent ofchildren are considered
overweight or obese.
So, somewhere between 1 in 5 and1 in 3.
And I just would like to speakto the parents of those kids, if

(15:24):
your child's struggling withthat, they need your help.
Because kids can't make thechoices.
You know how we, I justmentioned the whole coaching
thing of thoughts.
Create your feelings, createyour actions.
Well, kids brains are not matureenough to go through that

(15:45):
process, that thinking process,to understand why they're doing
what they're doing.
And so the parents of the kidsneed to do that for all aspects
of their health.
For nutrition, For their sleep,for their screen time, for
their, you know, movement, and,and teaching the kids emotional,

(16:07):
regulation skills, so that whenthey, as they age, and they get
older and older on this long 18year runway until they're, you
know, an adult, um, That whenthey get to the end of that
runway, they will have absorbedthe skills that the parents can
teach them and the parents havehelped them with so that so the

(16:30):
child won't have to struggle forso long on their own, trying to
figure out, you know, if parentsdon't help their kids now, that
is essentially just kicking thatcan.
down the road a little bit.
so it's not as hard as it mightseem.
It's not as overwhelming.
and I just want, I want tohopefully inspire people to take

(16:52):
some action and try to feelbetter and help themselves and
help their children.

Magic Barclay (16:58):
Wonderful.
Now, you mentioned coaching andwe've had a lot of coaches on
this podcast.
I wanted to ask you, why is itimportant that people seek
coaching?

Sheila Carroll (17:12):
Well, coaching very future focused.
And that's one thing that makesit very different than therapy.
Therapy Therapy is wonderfuland, you know, I am not saying
anything against therapy.
I have had a lot of amazingtherapy myself.
But therapy can be kind oflooking back and trying to
understand what's happened.

(17:34):
Coaching is so powerful becauseit is very future focused.
It can be very present focused.
How do I want to be thinkingright now?
How do I want to be feelingright now?
Or for example, oh, I have a bigmeeting coming up on Friday.
How do I want to be feelinggoing into that meeting?

(17:56):
And through coaching, and usingthat framework I described, you
can kind of design on purposethe thoughts you want to have
that are going to create thefeeling you want to have.
So you are going to show up in acertain way.
Um, and that coaching is just sopowerful because it helps you

(18:19):
show up how you, you yourself,not how I think you should show
up or anybody else, but how youdecide how you want to show up.
That's what a coach does.
A coach kind of reflects to youthe thoughts that are affecting
your life that you might not beaware of.

(18:39):
Because sometimes we have, youknow, we get confused and we
think that our thoughts arefacts.
But there's a big differencebetween, if you have a thought
and a true fact.
And coaching is just so powerfulbecause it helps sort that out
and it's very empowering and Andit helps you create the

(19:00):
experience of your life that youwant to have on purpose.

Magic Barclay (19:07):
Brilliant.
We've covered a lot, and Ireally do thank you for your in
depth honesty here.
And I just want to let listenersknow you can find Sheila on
Instagram and on Facebook atSheilaCarrollMD.
We love freebies here.
What can you offer the listenersand where can they find it?

Sheila Carroll (19:29):
I have created a freebie called, 10 simple steps
to help your child achieve ahealthy weight.
and this is not a, not a step bystep thing that you need to do,
you know, one and then two andthen three, it's just general
principles that, you know, kindof would help a family get an

(19:49):
idea of what would create ahealthy lifestyle for them.
And they're very simple thingsto do.
So that is easily accessed at,uh, well, you through my,
through my Instagram or throughmy website, which is just my
name, shelacarolmd.
com.

Magic Barclay (20:06):
Fantastic.
Shiela, thanks for your timetoday.
It's been such an enjoyableconversation.

Sheila Carroll (20:13):
Thank you so much.
Thanks, Magic, for having me.

Magic Barclay (20:15):
My pleasure.
Listeners, thank you for yourtime.
Go forth and create your magicallife.
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