December 31, 2024 • 42 mins
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Join me in this captivating episode where Jai Bazevski, a seasoned life coach and personal trainer, shares his powerful journey from an IT career to the health industry. After experiencing a near-fatal cardiac arrest, Jai transformed his life entirely, opting for heart surgery over lifelong medication. Hear Jai's inspirational story, his thoughts on the importance of listening to your body, and his advice on creating wealth through health.
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Magic Barclay (00:42):
Welcome back to a magical life.
I'm your host, Magic Barclay.
And today we're joined by JaiBozefsky, a fellow Aussie, all
the way from up north.
Jai is a life coach and personaltrainer with 13 years of
experience.
He transitioned from an ITcareer into the health industry
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after an almost fatal cardiacarrest and rare heart condition
that ultimately changed the pathof his life.
he was the owner of SQ1 fitnessgym.
Jim in Sydney's West from 2010to 2021, and he now resides in
Northern New South Wales, inAustralia, helping people as an
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online coach to overcome theirlimitations and develop a strong
mind and healthy body throughhis mindset and fitness
coaching.
Welcome.
Jai Bazevski (01:34):
Thank you, magic.
Thanks for having me.
Magic Barclay (01:36):
It's so great to have you here.
Now, before we launch into mystandard three questions that I
ask everyone.
Tell us about your cardiacarrest.
Jai Bazevski (01:48):
Yeah, it was a wild journey.
So I was 27 years old at thetime.
It was 2008.
And I was at that time, not inthe fitness industry, not doing
anything that I've been doingfor the past 13, 14 years.
I was actually working in it.
As a network engineer.
And that was a career that I gotinto after high school because,
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it's something that I just kindof stumbled upon.
If you think back to like the1998, 1999 era, that's when the
IT industry was just absolutelyblowing up, particularly in
Australia.
And, there was an opportunityfor me to take on a traineeship.
I was, I had a, I had a parttime job when I was, At school
answering phones for, like abank basically.
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And, um, yeah, and they saidthey just basically offered me a
traineeship and then that turnedinto a 13 year career where, you
know, I did enjoy it for most ofthat time and I, um, did really
well out of it.
but towards the end of it,ultimately it wasn't my passion
and towards the last sort ofthree, four years, I was really
starting to hate it, resent it.
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and just not.
Be happy on a daily basis.
And I think that that wasprobably a contributor to the
downfall of my health.
and then one day, I'd been outand, you know, it wasn't taking
care of my health.
I was looking for ways to.
Fulfill my, I guess my, uh, myjoy and my, just my, my needs on
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a emotional level through goingout and drinking alcohol and
just doing stuff that, you know,is unsustainable basically.
And this was one of those nightsand I'd gone out and had a huge
night and I was hung over thefollowing day.
And then on the Sunday morning,I'd gone out with another group
of friends to play basketball.
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Booked out a basketball court tojust go and, you know, have a
bit of fun for a couple ofhours.
And, and that was early in themorning.
And I'd gone there, you know,for a nine o'clock or something
like that.
and we'll play in basketballand, having a good time.
And then my heart started tojust.
I beat erratically and Icouldn't control it.
I couldn't calm it down.
You know, it wouldn't come downbasically.
And then, so I went home andtried to relax and had some food
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and, you know, had a shower andI tried to meditate and I tried
to do anything that I possiblycould to just reset myself back
to just feeling normal again.
But my heart rate was increasingin speed, but it was also
completely irregular and Aboutseven hours had gone by, by this
time, it was going into theevening.
And then I'd had, I was going todinner with my family at my
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brother's place.
And so I'd gone to my brother'splace and, and my family could
tell that I was completely off.
And then I told them, you know,how I felt or whatever.
And then my mom was like, we gotto go to the hospital.
And.
I was like, Oh, no, that's thelast place I want to go.
And I thought I'd be fine.
I thought it would go away.
I thought it'd be okay.
and then she ended up bringingour family doctor and our family
doctor kind of pushed her toencourage me to go to the
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hospital because, you know,something to do with your heart,
you don't want to take a risk.
And then she got off the phoneand she's like, I just spoke to
the doctor and.
You know, she's adamant that,you know, we should go to the
hospital.
So I was like, okay, I thoughtmore so to put their minds at
ease.
I, you know, I thought I wasgoing to be okay.
We go to the hospital and theycheck me in and then because,
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you know, I'm this 27 year oldguy and, I guess they just
thought I would, I'd been ondrugs and, they couldn't really
explain why I was, you know,having the reaction that I was
having other than this guy'shigh off drugs or he's had a bad
reaction to drugs and which wasnot the case.
And, So I was in there, I was inICU and, and they're basically
doing nothing.
They've they're just monitoringme.
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And then I was starting to getanxiety because I just, this
thing was just getting moreintense.
And I guess the environment wasgetting intense.
And, so I pretty much calledthem out, you know, and I was
like, what are you guys doingfor me?
Because.
Like, you know, I'm, I'mstarting to get a little bit,
panicked now and they're like,okay, they told my family to
leave the room and then they,came back to me and they said,
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look, you know, you need to tellus, what drugs you've had
because we can't help youotherwise and had to convince
them that I hadn't had any drugsat all and that there was
something wrong that I didn'tknow what was happening.
So then they eventually believedme and then they decided to give
me a drug through.
You know, a needle that stopsyour heart resets your heart.
And it's for people with anarrhythmia issue, which they
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assume that I had.
And they asked my permission todo that.
And I said, yes, because I, Ididn't know.
what else to do and I was scaredand I just said like, you know,
you guys need to lead the way.
So they gave me this drug andthen I just had a complete
adverse reaction to it.
I went into a coma, nonresponsive coma for eight
minutes and my heart rate didn'tchange from the weird thing that
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it was doing.
And I wasn't even breathing formyself.
So they had a ventilator.
in my throat.
And, after eight minutes, Iflatlined and I was clinically
dead for three minutes untilthey defibrillated me back to
life.
And they defibrillated me twotimes.
The first time there was stillno response.
And then the second time Ijumped up.
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When I jumped up, I thought thatI was like projectile vomiting,
like on everybody, but really,cause I didn't realize I had
this ventilator down my throatand, my natural instinct without
even realizing that I did it, mynatural instinct was just to
clear the passageway.
So I grabbed.
Whatever it was.
And I just ripped it out.
And then, that created a frenzybecause, that's a dangerous
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thing to do.
So that had to x ray my chestand check that I didn't tear my
trachea and do all this damage.
And so they were really panickedabout that.
But in that moment, after I wokeup, I just remember checking in
on myself and asking myself, ismy heart doing that weird thing?
And, um, And it wasn't.
And then I was like, Oh, I'mgoing to be fine.
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So I was like, okay, I'm good.
So I just collapsed into the bedand just let them do whatever
they wanted to do.
X ray me, whatever.
I didn't have any pain oranything.
and I was, it turns out that itwas fine.
I didn't do any damage, rippingthis ventilator out.
and then I had the best night'ssleep that I have ever had in my
life in that hospital.
They had an oxygen mask on meand they were just monitoring me
overnight.
And then I woke up the nextmorning and my memory was a bit
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foggy because they didn't Reallytell me what had happened the
night that it happened because Iwas so tired.
I kind of just passed out asleepand, um, and I was kind of happy
that my heart rate was okay.
And I was just so tired that Ijust ended up falling asleep.
So I wake up the next morningand I'm still like, I haven't
been filled in on everythingthat had happened.
And then, I looked at my watchand it was, you know, I guess it
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was like 630 or something likethat in the morning.
And I was like, I need to getout of here.
Like it's Monday morning.
I have to go to work.
I've got stuff to do.
And, um, I flagged down a nursewho was, who walked by and then
she's like, Oh, you're up, howare you feeling?
And then I was like, I feelgreat.
I need to get out of here.
Like, what's the, you know, whatdo I need to do to get out of
here?
And then she started laughingand she's like, Oh, like you are
not going anywhere where we needto figure out what the hell
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happened to you last night, andthen she filled me in and she
said, look, you know, you wentinto a cardiac arrest and, you
flatlined.
clinically dead for threeminutes.
It took us two defibrillationsto get your heart rate started
again.
And we don't know what causedit.
The drug that we gave you, youhad a, um, you know, you had a
reaction to it and I put you inthis coma.
And so all this random stuffhappened and we don't want to
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let you go yet.
We want to keep you forobservation and make sure that
this doesn't happen again.
And so I was like, okay, thatmakes sense.
and then so I stayed, I stayedthere for four or five days and
then after all that time, youknow, they were taking my blood
and they had the ECG monitor onmy, on my chest the whole time.
And then cardiologist finallycomes through and it's like,
okay, you know, we've beenmonitoring you every day and
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this is what we think ishappening with.
We think that you've got thisrare heart condition and, um,
there's two ways that we cantreat it.
And one is by medicating you.
So basically you just go onmedication, take a daily
medication for the rest of yourlife and it shouldn't be an
issue for you.
And we just monitor you.
or you could have a surgery andyou don't have to take
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medication and we can fix itpermanently.
And in that moment, I just wassearching for certainty.
That was like my main driver wascertainty in my health.
And I, I'm not a fan of thepharmaceutical industry or
taking medication.
And I did not want to takemedication for the rest of my
life.
So that was virtually an instantno for me.
I didn't want to have heartsurgery either.
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But when I weighed the two up,you know, the way he presented
it, I thought to myself, havingthe heart surgery is probably
the best option.
If he.
Seems to think it's a goodoption.
Then I'll go for that.
So we opted for that.
So, but I needed to do it ASAPbecause I was scared out of my
pants on this whole situation.
So I'm like, can we do it today?
Can we do it tomorrow?
When can we do it?
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It's like, we can't do it foranother week or whatever.
So I ended up going home andthen I went back to the hospital
and I did this heart surgery.
And then I went home for threemonths and recovered and it was
keyhole surgery through thegroin so they wind up these
wires up in through your arteryand get into your heart and do
all this stuff.
And, um, so they did that andthen I went home for three
months and they were stillmonitoring me and they had, um,
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like the home ECG test, thething that they wanted me to do
every now and again.
And, turns out after the threemonths, they, I thought that I
was recovered and in the clear.
And then it turns out after thethree months.
Once they said to me, um, you'renot in the clear, your ECGs are
showing irregularities, and wethink that we haven't fixed the
problem.
We want to do the surgery again.
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And that was the lowest point ofmy entire life when they said
that to me, because I just gotall this fear, all this doubt,
all these emotions just came inwhere I thought to myself, I
can't beat this.
I can't get past this.
you know, I'm not meant to bealive.
This is going to kill me.
I'm not going to make it throughthe surgery.
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you know, like I'm destined fordoom, blah, blah, blah.
And so I said to the surgeon,like, let's again, same story.
Like let's do it today.
Let's do it tomorrow.
How fast can you get this in?
And then he's like, um, it'sgoing to take me a week to
organize it.
And then I was like, okay.
book me in.
So I went in and I did thissecond surgery, which is
literally the exact samesurgery.
And I did it the second time andthen it was successful thank
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God.
And then I went home for threemonths and recovered again.
And then that's when I was ableto kind of get my life started
again.
And that whole process reallywas the huge transformation that
I went through being inhospital, being in the cardiac
ward, waiting for the surgery,being around all the other men
that were also in a similarsituation where, you know, that
will go in.
They were older than me.
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I was the youngest person there.
The only guy in my, in the 20s.
Everyone's in their 50s and 60s.
They're out of shape,overweight, look like crap, you
know, going in for quadruplebypasses and heart transplants
and pacemakers and all of theselike full on open heart surgery
type stuff.
And, and they're getting therapyat the same time every day.
So I'm sitting in this room,this common room in my bed.
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And then every day therapistsare coming in and they're
pulling, you know, the, theshower screen across to have a
therapy session with theseindividuals and preparing them
for death.
And that was the most, um, Iguess, impactful thing that
happened.
One of the most impactful thingsthat came out of the whole,
experience was that, It justblew my mind just hearing all of
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these therapy sessions and howthey were getting these people
ready for death.
And if they didn't make it andhave they spoken to their
families and blah, blah, blah,they have their affairs in
order, like all this crazystuff.
And so it just really made mecontemplate life.
And, you know, as a 27 year old,that's not something that you
would generally do.
You think that you'reinvincible, at least I did.
And, um, just don't contemplatehealth as an issue at all, at
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least at that time.
And so, It really changed theway I think about everything and
I just had a newfound,appreciation for life and health
and taking care of myself.
And that's what just the switchjust flicked in me.
And I was like, okay, from nowon, I'm going to be The
healthiest person on the planetand not only that, I'm going to
help all these other peoplethese guys that are in here now
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to try and avoid this situation.
And, I guess.
The line that came up, it kepton coming up in my head that I
kept thinking out about wasprevention is the cure.
And so I thought to myself, noneof us need to be here.
You know, we can take care ofourselves.
We can live a healthy lifestyle.
You know, we can have stronghearts for our whole lives.
We don't need to destroy ourbodies every day and just break
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ourselves down to the pointwhere we get ourselves into this
situation.
And so that's what I did.
That led me to then leave the itindustry, move into the fitness
industry.
and one thing led to anothernext thing, you know, I'm a
personal trainer.
I'm a life coach.
I'm a gym owner and I'm helpingall these people every single
day.
And I'm using my story asmotivation for everybody.
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And.
Now that's been like 13, 14years or something that I've
been doing that and it's justbeen an amazing journey.
I've definitely, I've helpedthousands of people, um, change
their lives, change their healthand potentially avoid, bad
situations like what I gotmyself into when I was younger.
And um, it's, it's been a muchmore fulfilling life and a much
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more rewarding life.
And you know, I feel like it'sonly just beginning.
Magic Barclay (14:44):
What a crazy.
Busy story.
And I love that you're so openabout it.
So thank you very much.
Really going to help a lot ofpeople.
And so I ask my guests the samethree questions.
You've pretty much answered thefirst one and it's normally,
what can your expertise do toaccelerate health, both physical
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and emotional and spiritual.
But I'm going to throw you aside question cause you've
already kind of answered that.
So often.
We're taught not to listen toour bodies and big pharma and
conventional medicine,allopathic medicine, you know,
want to be put on a pedestal anddon't listen to your body.
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Cause we know everything.
And what would you know for you?
What was that turning pointwhere you checked in with your
heart and you went, Hey, whatare you trying to tell me?
Like, what can you offer thelisteners about listening to
their body?
Jai Bazevski (15:43):
That's a great, great question.
I mean, we, we do need to tapinto that.
And that was my marker forwhether I was okay or not,
whether I could feel my heart,like, jumping through my chest.
And, I mean, that wasn't sosubtle because of, the extent
that it got to, but since then Ihave definitely had a deeper
intuition with my body and howit responds to things like
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caffeine and, sugar and, youknow, I don't take medication.
I don't buy into big pharma, Idon't buy into allopathy or
anything like that.
but yeah, I mean, it's somethingthat isn't really taught and
it's something that we're allcapable of.
And that's the great news isthat.
We can tap into this.
We just have to have that, Iguess, that self awareness or,
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or have a moment where we cancheck in on ourselves, but it
comes back to, I think,confidence in your ability to,
heal.
one of my good friends is achiropractor and he has a
saying, and it's that, the bodyis self healing and self
regulating.
And I believe that to be true.
And we just have to get out ofthe way sometimes.
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And I think that a lot of peopledon't have the faith in
themselves to heal, where reallyeverything is just a facilitator
for us to do the healingourselves.
So whether that's through a, youknow, a doctor or a medicine or
something, but, Yeah, that'ssomething that people are
lacking.
I think a lot of people arelacking that confidence.
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I think it comes down to theconfidence and the intuition to
tap into the, that knowingnessof that the body is, you know,
it is self healing.
It is self regulating.
Like you don't have to thinkabout your heart beating or, The
insulin in your body beingregulated or your breathing, or,
you know, all of the millionsand millions of functions that
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are going on in your body.
And, you know, me coming, goingback to that IT, mindset and
that IT background.
I always look at the human bodyas the greatest computer system
that has ever been created onthe face of the earth that will
never be broken.
Beaten will never be overcome byAI or any no matter what kind of
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technology there ever comes inthe future The human body is the
best technology out there and wejust don't have the manual for
it.
We don't know how it fullyoperates.
So I think that when we can tapinto that intuition And we can,
take the time and take themoment to, I guess it's called
mindfulness, where we check inon ourselves and say, how am I
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feeling?
And how do I feel now?
You know?
And for me, I think that I gotthose lessons Well, from the
obvious, but then since thenfrom being really healthy, it
kind of, it does put you at abaseline.
And then when you do somethingunhealthy, like say, get drunk
or, overdose on sugar oroverdose on caffeine or, or
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something like that, it You feelso thrown out of your alignment
that it's just so obvious and,and you know it, you can connect
the dot because it's like, Oh, Ijust ate 10 Easter bunnies on
Easter day.
And now my, body feels like crapor I've got all the, you know,
I've got certain kind of, issuesor symptoms or whatever it is.
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and you can connect the dotsthat way.
But I think when our bodies arefull of crap, when we're
constantly eating junk food,when we're constantly drinking
like Coca Cola or alcohol orconsuming Bad food and not
taking care of our bodies.
It almost severs that intuitiveconnection between us and our
ability to tap into ourselvesand see whether we are okay or
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not.
And I think that getting back tothat, that baseline of health
really just amplifies thatintuition.
And it, gives us a deeperunderstanding of how our body
does heal itself and how it doesreact and respond to, negative
influences.
Not only for what you put inyour body, but even what's on
the news and what we're hearing,you know, around the world and,
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um, relationships andconversations with people,
workplace stuff, you know,anything that's stressful and
negative can have such a hugeimpact.
And yeah, it is, it is hard todetermine it when you are
constantly just not taking careof yourself.
And when your body is full ofchemicals, medication, basically
numbed out on maybe antianxieties or, you know, Big
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pharma meds or whatever it maybe, or just, you're just numbing
yourself out with food, overconsuming calories and just, you
know, just not treating yourbody, right?
So it's a dilemma, it's anissue.
And I think that the solution isfor us to, to, you know, put the
brakes on and reduce all of thedamage that we're doing and just
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try and find that baseline ofhealth.
And, and then I think that thatis the first stage to then move
on from there.
Magic Barclay (20:33):
I love it.
Listeners.
If only there was a camera in myoffice right now, while Jai was
talking, I'm here doing a happydance behind my desk because the
things that Jai has just.
Shared with you, preach, dude,that's the truth.
Like, please listen to thisepisode, share it, like it,
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subscribe, follow Jay to everyother podcast he's on and me, by
the way, but this is the truththat you need to hear.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next standard question is aroundwealth, and it's normally, what
are your top three tips tocreating wealth, financial,
emotional, and personal wealth?
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I believe a lot of your wealthshould be obviously your health
and your body.
You can't, your legs.
Because they get you aroundevery day.
You know, if you have two legsat work, that's a form of
wealth.
A lot of people don't.
So what are your top three tipsto creating wealth?
(21:40):
And let's tailor this tolistening to your body.
You've mentioned one already,and that is, you know, listen to
your, your body's whispers of,you know, you have too much
caffeine.
And your body says, please don'tdo that to me.
What are some other ways thatpeople can build their health
wealth?
Jai Bazevski (22:00):
Yeah, that's an awesome question.
And like, I always say that ourbody is the greatest asset that
we have.
It's not your house or, youknow, your crypto account or,
you know, your cash or anything.
It's your body because that'swhat is built.
Bring it in the world for you onevery level.
So I think that, managing yourenergy is probably one of the
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hugest things and, I mean, it'salmost like being like a robot
in a sense, but being consistentwith a routine is such a huge
one, because not only does ithelp you to maintain a high
level of energy and.
Capacity, brain capacity tofunction, to be able to make the
right decisions in your life,but it also sets you up for
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success in your business becauseit's repetition that gets us
everything that we want in, youknow, in terms of success.
You know, if you need to getfrom A to B, then it takes daily
repetition to accomplish thattask or that goal.
So I think that if you aretrying to get to sleep.
At the same time, you know, someof us are, moms with newborn
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babies that are waking up everyhour crying.
And you know, it's for me tosay, you know, force yourself to
get eight hours sleep.
It's not overly practical andrealistic for everybody.
So rather than saying, get youreight hours, like everybody else
says, I'd rather say get into aroutine of sleep where you're
going to bed at the same timeand you're waking up at the same
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time.
So that's.
Cause that's the foundation ofyour energy.
So if you're going to bed ateight o'clock and then you're
waking up at whatever time youwake up, even if it's
interrupted, even if you're, youknow, you've got a baby or you
got stuff going on, if you canstart to get into that pattern,
then that's going to manipulateyour circadian rhythms.
That's going to, alter yourenergy field.
So that is the foundation Ithink is to get to bed at the
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same time every day and thenI'll wake up at the exact same
time, seven days a week.
And, and that's the first thing.
And then the second thing ishaving a morning routine where
you are executing the importantthings, the high value tasks,
the things that accumulatewealth in your life on a
spiritual level, on a physicallevel, on a mental level, and on
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a personal level.
bank account level as well.
So having that.
I'll identifying, you know, thehigh, high value things because,
you know, we, you've probablyheard of the Pareto principle,
the 80 20 rule where they saythat, 20 percent of the actions
that we take are bringing us 80percent of the value.
And 80 percent of the actionsthat we're taking are only
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bringing us 20 percent of thevalue.
So we need to identify whatthose 20 percent of the highest
value returning tasks are, andwe need to factor them in as a
priority at the beginning of theday, or whenever is practical
for you to do it with, you know,compliance every day and
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consistency.
And then what happens is overtime.
You look in the mirror andyou're a different person.
Like you, you, it'sunbelievable.
The, the amount of things youcan accomplish, on all levels,
but, you know, speaking wealthwise, like it's amazing what you
can accomplish when you haveconsistency and the biggest
roadblocks that I see peopletake in my career.
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Not only from a, from a clientperspective where I'm working
with clients to improve theirhealth, but also in my industry
where I'm, associating withother people who do exactly what
I do, business owners,entrepreneurs, people, you know,
in the fitness space, if eitherthey don't have the consistency
in how they run their business,or if the client doesn't have
(25:37):
the consistency in executing,the high value tasks that
they've.
Then nothing changes and theyjust end up getting frustrated
and they don't see results or ittakes a long time or the results
are fluctuating up and down.
And, um, you don't grow likethat.
You don't develop, you don'tmove forward like that.
The most important thing.
(25:57):
is taking those actions on aregular basis, even if those
actions are imperfect becausethey improve over time.
Like everything that you do getsbetter and better.
If you refer back to when youfirst started driving a car, you
get your license and you'repretty much a crappy driver and
your L's can't merge into lanes.
And, you know, can't domultitasking, like Operate the
(26:18):
blinker, you know, maybe whilechanging gears and putting the
clutch in and keeping in betweenthe lines.
Right.
But then over time, yourimperfect action becomes,
perfected.
And, that is the mindset that Ithink a lot of people don't have
because the emotions get in theway.
And then the emotions stop usfrom the execution because it's
like, Oh, I'm not gettinganywhere.
(26:40):
this is frustrating.
This is hard.
Or like this workout sucks.
Or I don't like this.
But it's like, no, go do thatworkout.
Go do that walk, go, go to bed,you know, don't stay up and
binge or, or stick to that dietplan.
You know, don't eat thatchocolate or that don't drink
that extra glass of wine orwhatever it is.
It doesn't matter, but like justpulling yourself back all the
time and just sticking to thatconsistency.
(27:03):
I feel like the gold of all ofthe world comes from
consistency.
Magic Barclay (27:08):
Very true.
Right.
Final standard question isaround weight.
Many people look particularly atpersonal trainers and go, well,
what would you know?
You've never had a weightproblem.
You've never been where I am,where my knees hurt and
everything hurts.
Have you ever had a weightproblem?
If so, how did you win the war?
(27:28):
And what can you offer thelisteners who might be on this
journey looking at their fitnesspeople in their lives going.
Yeah.
No, you've never been where Iam.
Jai Bazevski (27:38):
That's such a great question.
And you know, what's interestingis that it's a huge
misconception as well, becausethere are a huge amount of
people in the fitness industrythat came from that exact same
place that that person that you,you know, suggest is saying
where they were overweight, theyhad a transformational moment.
(27:58):
Um, they went through that hugetransformation of weight loss
and, you know, Using body fatand getting themselves fit.
And then they were soaccomplished and excited and
motivated from that, that theywant to help other people.
There's one commonality thatI've found in the health
industry.
It's that.
People that get into the healthindustry, whether it's coaching
(28:21):
or personal training, they wantto help people.
That's really what it comes downto.
They are the type of people thatjust want to help people.
and a huge amount of them havegone through exactly that, which
the clients are going through atthat time, which is trying to,
you know, lose weight in thiscase.
for me, yeah, my, my weight hasfluctuated Pretty much
(28:42):
throughout my entire adult lifeas a child, I was pretty much a
skinny kid.
Like when I was really young,like, um, under 12, I was too
skinny.
You know, I was the, the one inthe family where my grandparents
and my parents and my auntie anduncles and stuff, they'd be
like, you need to eat more, youknow, finish the food on your
plate.
And I'd be there going, I'm nothungry.
(29:03):
and so I was that.
I was that underweight kid and,you know, I was a scrawny kid
and all that kind of stuff.
And then once I became an adultand, you know, got a part time
job and started making an incomeand started going to McDonald's
and started drinking soft drinkand started, you know, basically
just doing whatever the hell Iwanted to, I gained a lot of
weight and I went from 78 kilosall the way up to 92 kilos at
(29:26):
one point.
And I would just fluctuateconstantly.
And I would try and battle thatby.
playing more sport, going forruns.
I'm going to the gym and liftingweights, trying to gain more
muscle.
And, um, and that's why Ifluctuated because there were
times where I made the rightchanges, just fluking my way
through it.
but ultimately I never lookedinto the diet side of things.
(29:48):
And ultimately.
That's where it's the missinglink really it's, it's the diet
and getting that right.
And a lot of people don't getthe whole thing.
Like they think, you know, youneed to go to the gym and lift
weights for, you know, two hoursevery day and be this, you know,
gym rat when it's just not thecase.
the, Best approach to managingweight and dealing with that is
(30:10):
looking towards the calories,eating as healthy as you
possibly can, you know, usingyour, discernment around what is
healthy and what isn't like, youknow, basic knowledge of eating
vegetables and things like that,but then also.
If you really have a problemwith your weight, then you need
to measure because, a greatquote from Tony Robbins, one of
my favorite mentors is you can'tmanage what you don't measure.
(30:32):
And if you are not measuring,the changes that you're
implementing, then how do youknow whether they're working or
not?
And the greatest thing that youcan manage and measure to lose
weight and to just change yourhealth overall is what you're
putting in your body because ithas the biggest impact on how
your body responds.
And so in terms of gainingweight, The thing that everybody
(30:53):
needs to understand.
So if you're listening right nowand, and you're carrying an
extra, say 10 kilos or 20 kilosor more of excess weight, and
you've got sore knees and youdon't know what to do or how to,
and you've tried diet pills andyou've been to doctors and maybe
you've even had surgeries andthey haven't worked for you,
which I've, that's.
(31:14):
You know, been the case a lot.
then what I would suggest isdon't worry about hurting your
knees more by going out andrunning and going to the gym
and, and, you know, getting apersonal trainer, doing any of
that stuff.
The best thing to do is to juststart out by changing your diet
and the way you approach it isby understanding how many
calories you're going.
(31:35):
But he needs to consume becausethat is based off your
metabolism.
So we can talk about having bigbones and having slow
metabolisms all we want.
But at the end of the day, thatdoesn't help us get the result
that we want.
And at the end of the day, yourbody is self healing and it is
self regulating, and you need toget out of the way of that.
And the way you need to get outof the way of that is by not
(31:55):
telling yourself that you're bigboned and That you have a slow
metabolism and that nothingworks for you.
And that you've triedeverything, because if you tried
everything, then you would haveaccomplished the result, but you
haven't tried everything.
You've tried everything thatdoesn't work for you.
So now it's time to try thething that works for you.
And the thing that will work foryou is understanding your
metabolism.
So what do you do?
(32:17):
You just simply get onto Googleand you look up, macro
calculator and then you put inyour information.
I am a male.
I'm 42 years old.
I weigh 84 kilos and I'm 183centimeters tall.
Enter.
And then that will tell you,okay, great.
Here's your metabolism.
Your body burns 2000 calories aday.
(32:40):
Great.
Now I know that my body is goingto burn 2000 calories a day.
That is my metabolism.
That is how my metabolismoperates.
So if I were to speed up mymetabolism, then I would just
simply go for a walk because Iwould burn an additional, say,
100 calories.
So now my metabolism is 2100calories.
(33:00):
It went up.
So I just sped up my metabolismby going for a walk.
So what also that means is I caneat 2100 calories of food and
now I won't gain weight becauseI'm burning it off.
So the problem that most peoplehave is that they're eating way
more calories than theirmetabolism is burning on a 24
hour basis.
Metabolism can't keep up withthe consumption.
(33:23):
So, and the reason why that is,is because we live in the fast
food era where everything isjunk and high calorie, because
that's what sells.
So they put all this sugar in,they put all the salt in, they
put all the fat in.
They put just, you know,calories upon calories into all
this junk food and mostly comingfrom oil and, you know, food.
fried stuff and everything.
(33:44):
So it holds all of all of thesecalories.
You know, oil is very highcalorie.
Fat is very high calorie.
So one gram of fat is ninecalories.
Whereas if you look at proteinor carbohydrates, one gram of
protein or one gram ofcarbohydrate is only four
calories.
So if you eat more protein andmore and more carbohydrates than
(34:07):
you do fat, then your overallcalories will be lower over the
day.
So you will not be in a hugesurplus.
What we actually need to do isget ourselves into a deficit.
So if you start going back tothe Tony Robbins quote is you
can't manage what you're notmeasuring if you start to manage
the calories that you'reconsuming.
(34:28):
So your calories make up threemacronutrients, which is the
protein, the carbohydrates andthe fats.
We need all three of them, butat what ratios, if you're eating
junk food, then you're probably.
Um, astronomically over thelimit for fat and carbohydrates
and very often, but not alwaysunder the limit for protein.
(34:50):
So what we want to do is we needto change that up.
We need to increase our proteincalories.
we need to have a.
A medium to moderate level ofcarbohydrate calories.
And then we need to reduce thefat calories a little bit if we
want to burn fat and we want tolose weight because that's going
to bring our overall calorieconsumption down.
So it's a numbers game really.
(35:11):
And if we can look at.
Like the whole scenario likethat, then it is just, you know,
plain numbers on paper and youcan succeed.
And not only that, you actuallysee rapid results because this
is how I've been getting resultsfor my clients for many years.
And it works not only for them,but also for myself.
It works for my wife.
It works for my family and yeah.
(35:31):
And it works for my clients andit works basically for
everybody.
There's nobody that it doesn'twork for because we all have a
metabolism.
We all.
burn a X amount of calories in aday.
So if you can just match yourdiet to your metabolism, then
you will see the results.
And it doesn't mean that youhave to, what did I say?
(35:51):
Eat like a rabbit or eat rabbitfood or, just eat lettuce and
celery or whatever you can eat.
Technically, whatever you want,just eat it within the rations
that meet your dailyrequirements to match your
metabolism.
And then what you'll find is allof that excess weight that's
(36:12):
been loading up and loading upand loading up from all the
excess calories that are unableto get burnt off, they end up
getting burnt up and being usedup because you're, you're in a
deficit.
So you burn up all of thatexcess weight that's in your
body.
All of that energy gets allburnt up and converted into
energy and used up all that fat.
And then now you're at yourideal weight.
You feel amazing.
You got more energy.
(36:32):
Wow.
Your metabolism's up now becauseyou've got more energy to burn.
You want to burn more.
You're more active.
You can work out now.
You don't have sore knees.
You can walk, you can even run,you can play sports, you can do
whatever.
So the more activity you addonto your 24 hour day.
The higher your metabolism goes.
So the lower the excess bodyweight that you're carrying, you
know, it's like a cycle and itall just kind of works and keeps
(36:56):
on getting better and better andbetter.
So, you know, ultimately we needto take a step back.
We need to assess.
The and measure the amount ofconsumption versus the output.
And then we need to alter thoseratios.
You can still have yourchocolate cake.
You can still have your glass ofwine.
You can still even eat pizza ifyou want.
(37:16):
Just make sure that it factorsin with those calories and with.
You know, your metabolism andyou're totally fine.
last week, Kate and I, my wifeand I, we made some homemade on
the weekend.
Actually, we made some homemadepizzas.
Um, we hadn't had pizzas in sucha long time.
You know, we don't, we don't buypizzas.
We try to keep it as healthy aspossible, but we felt like
(37:37):
pizza.
And we're like, Hey, why don'twe make our own pizza?
So we made our own pizza.
We went and bought theingredients and it was.
Amazing.
It was phenomenal.
The calories were higher thanwhat we would normally have.
Cause we put a bunch of cheeseon there and stuff, but we just
factored it in and it worked soyou can have the things that
it's like, a lot of people arescared to jump into something
like this because they thinkthey've got to give up so much,
(37:57):
but you're not.
Giving up anything.
You're just changing the way youdo it.
And that's really, you know, thekey to success in my eyes.
And I think that's how we canget to that next level and, and
tick that box of, you know,moving from I'm overweight, my
knees hurt.
I feel crap.
And you don't get it to know,listen to what they're saying,
(38:17):
because there is.
Like, there's education behind,you know, personal training,
there's education behind, um,health coaching, there is a
method to the madness, it doeswork, you just gotta get the
right person, you know, get theright program, understand your
body, and then get out of theway and execute, basically.
Magic Barclay (38:37):
Love it.
Okay.
We have covered so much.
The listeners ears are probablybursting with all the
information coming out of theirbrains.
So where can people find you?
And also, do you have a freebiefor them?
Jai Bazevski (38:50):
Absolutely.
And absolutely.
So, um, I am on Instagram forthe most part, I document my
life so people can.
See how easy it can be done.
So I wake up in the morning andI start documenting what I'm
doing.
You know, what supplements I'mtaking, what exercises I'm
doing, all that kind of stuff.
you know, I talk about certainbooks I'm reading and everything
that's all on Instagram.
(39:10):
So you can find me there andInstagram.
the handle is at S Q onefitness, a U S.
Um, SQ one Fitness A and then,you can also check out my
website if you wanna look at theprograms I offer.
So you can do group coachingwith me, or you can do
one-on-one coaching with me.
(39:30):
And my website is sq onefitness.com.
Do au and I have a.
Free seven day program and it'scalled a reboot and basically I
just I set you up witheverything that I've said.
Um, I get all of the informationthat I need from you and then I
set you up with the idealcalories for your body type and
(39:52):
your metabolism.
I preset your protein, in howmany grams per day specifically
I want you to have, how manygrams of carbohydrates, how many
grams of fat.
I also give you a workoutprogram.
Now that workout program Is itvaries depending on the person.
So if you are, you know,overweight and have bad knees,
then it might just be going fora 10 minute walk every day, if
(40:14):
that's all you can handle.
So it's scaled to theindividual, but it could also
scale all the way up to going tothe gym and lifting weights.
Um, so it depends on, on theperson and it also depends on
their goals as well.
Sometimes I'll get.
Um, a client who's signed up fora marathon and they're like, I'm
running a marathon in Septemberand I need to train for it.
(40:35):
And I don't know how to trainfor it.
It's like, great.
So then, you know, they'll berunning in there because that's
their specific thing.
so it's a seven day reboot and,you can access it by the
website, just put in yourdetails and then I will get an
email and follow you up and getyou set up in my app.
So you'll have a private appwhere you can access your
workout program.
You can message me directly.
So we stay in contact back andforward.
(40:57):
Um, you'll have a diet plan inthere.
I give you all the recipes.
I basically tell you everysingle thing that you need to do
for a week and just to get theball rolling for you.
And then from there, after theweek, basically, you have a
whole bunch of knowledge thatyou can take on and choose to do
with it what you want to do.
Or if you want to go deeper andwork together with me, then
there's the option to do that aswell.
Magic Barclay (41:18):
Fantastic.
All right.
We're going to wrap it up there,Jai.
Thank you so much for joining uson A Magical Life.
We've really loved having you.
Jai Bazevski (41:27):
Excellent.
It's been great to be here.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate it.
Magic Barclay (41:31):
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Welcome back to a magical life.
I'm your host, Magic Barclay.
And today we're joined by JaiBozefsky, a fellow Aussie, all
the way from up north.
Jai is a life coach and personaltrainer with 13 years of
experience.
He transitioned from an ITcareer into the health industry
(01:03):
after an almost fatal cardiacarrest and rare heart condition
that ultimately changed the pathof his life.
he was the owner of SQ1 fitnessgym.
Jim in Sydney's West from 2010to 2021, and he now resides in
Northern New South Wales, inAustralia, helping people as an
(01:23):
online coach to overcome theirlimitations and develop a strong
mind and healthy body throughhis mindset and fitness
coaching.
Welcome.
Jai Bazevski (01:34):
Thank you, magic.
Thanks for having me.
Magic Barclay (01:36):
It's so great to have you here.
Now, before we launch into mystandard three questions that I
ask everyone.
Tell us about your cardiacarrest.
Jai Bazevski (01:48):
Yeah, it was a wild journey.
So I was 27 years old at thetime.
It was 2008.
And I was at that time, not inthe fitness industry, not doing
anything that I've been doingfor the past 13, 14 years.
I was actually working in it.
As a network engineer.
And that was a career that I gotinto after high school because,
(02:10):
it's something that I just kindof stumbled upon.
If you think back to like the1998, 1999 era, that's when the
IT industry was just absolutelyblowing up, particularly in
Australia.
And, there was an opportunityfor me to take on a traineeship.
I was, I had a, I had a parttime job when I was, At school
answering phones for, like abank basically.
(02:31):
And, um, yeah, and they saidthey just basically offered me a
traineeship and then that turnedinto a 13 year career where, you
know, I did enjoy it for most ofthat time and I, um, did really
well out of it.
but towards the end of it,ultimately it wasn't my passion
and towards the last sort ofthree, four years, I was really
starting to hate it, resent it.
(02:51):
and just not.
Be happy on a daily basis.
And I think that that wasprobably a contributor to the
downfall of my health.
and then one day, I'd been outand, you know, it wasn't taking
care of my health.
I was looking for ways to.
Fulfill my, I guess my, uh, myjoy and my, just my, my needs on
(03:12):
a emotional level through goingout and drinking alcohol and
just doing stuff that, you know,is unsustainable basically.
And this was one of those nightsand I'd gone out and had a huge
night and I was hung over thefollowing day.
And then on the Sunday morning,I'd gone out with another group
of friends to play basketball.
(03:32):
Booked out a basketball court tojust go and, you know, have a
bit of fun for a couple ofhours.
And, and that was early in themorning.
And I'd gone there, you know,for a nine o'clock or something
like that.
and we'll play in basketballand, having a good time.
And then my heart started tojust.
I beat erratically and Icouldn't control it.
I couldn't calm it down.
You know, it wouldn't come downbasically.
And then, so I went home andtried to relax and had some food
(03:55):
and, you know, had a shower andI tried to meditate and I tried
to do anything that I possiblycould to just reset myself back
to just feeling normal again.
But my heart rate was increasingin speed, but it was also
completely irregular and Aboutseven hours had gone by, by this
time, it was going into theevening.
And then I'd had, I was going todinner with my family at my
(04:18):
brother's place.
And so I'd gone to my brother'splace and, and my family could
tell that I was completely off.
And then I told them, you know,how I felt or whatever.
And then my mom was like, we gotto go to the hospital.
And.
I was like, Oh, no, that's thelast place I want to go.
And I thought I'd be fine.
I thought it would go away.
I thought it'd be okay.
and then she ended up bringingour family doctor and our family
doctor kind of pushed her toencourage me to go to the
(04:41):
hospital because, you know,something to do with your heart,
you don't want to take a risk.
And then she got off the phoneand she's like, I just spoke to
the doctor and.
You know, she's adamant that,you know, we should go to the
hospital.
So I was like, okay, I thoughtmore so to put their minds at
ease.
I, you know, I thought I wasgoing to be okay.
We go to the hospital and theycheck me in and then because,
(05:01):
you know, I'm this 27 year oldguy and, I guess they just
thought I would, I'd been ondrugs and, they couldn't really
explain why I was, you know,having the reaction that I was
having other than this guy'shigh off drugs or he's had a bad
reaction to drugs and which wasnot the case.
And, So I was in there, I was inICU and, and they're basically
doing nothing.
They've they're just monitoringme.
(05:21):
And then I was starting to getanxiety because I just, this
thing was just getting moreintense.
And I guess the environment wasgetting intense.
And, so I pretty much calledthem out, you know, and I was
like, what are you guys doingfor me?
Because.
Like, you know, I'm, I'mstarting to get a little bit,
panicked now and they're like,okay, they told my family to
leave the room and then they,came back to me and they said,
(05:41):
look, you know, you need to tellus, what drugs you've had
because we can't help youotherwise and had to convince
them that I hadn't had any drugsat all and that there was
something wrong that I didn'tknow what was happening.
So then they eventually believedme and then they decided to give
me a drug through.
You know, a needle that stopsyour heart resets your heart.
And it's for people with anarrhythmia issue, which they
(06:02):
assume that I had.
And they asked my permission todo that.
And I said, yes, because I, Ididn't know.
what else to do and I was scaredand I just said like, you know,
you guys need to lead the way.
So they gave me this drug andthen I just had a complete
adverse reaction to it.
I went into a coma, nonresponsive coma for eight
minutes and my heart rate didn'tchange from the weird thing that
(06:25):
it was doing.
And I wasn't even breathing formyself.
So they had a ventilator.
in my throat.
And, after eight minutes, Iflatlined and I was clinically
dead for three minutes untilthey defibrillated me back to
life.
And they defibrillated me twotimes.
The first time there was stillno response.
And then the second time Ijumped up.
(06:47):
When I jumped up, I thought thatI was like projectile vomiting,
like on everybody, but really,cause I didn't realize I had
this ventilator down my throatand, my natural instinct without
even realizing that I did it, mynatural instinct was just to
clear the passageway.
So I grabbed.
Whatever it was.
And I just ripped it out.
And then, that created a frenzybecause, that's a dangerous
(07:10):
thing to do.
So that had to x ray my chestand check that I didn't tear my
trachea and do all this damage.
And so they were really panickedabout that.
But in that moment, after I wokeup, I just remember checking in
on myself and asking myself, ismy heart doing that weird thing?
And, um, And it wasn't.
And then I was like, Oh, I'mgoing to be fine.
(07:30):
So I was like, okay, I'm good.
So I just collapsed into the bedand just let them do whatever
they wanted to do.
X ray me, whatever.
I didn't have any pain oranything.
and I was, it turns out that itwas fine.
I didn't do any damage, rippingthis ventilator out.
and then I had the best night'ssleep that I have ever had in my
life in that hospital.
They had an oxygen mask on meand they were just monitoring me
overnight.
And then I woke up the nextmorning and my memory was a bit
(07:52):
foggy because they didn't Reallytell me what had happened the
night that it happened because Iwas so tired.
I kind of just passed out asleepand, um, and I was kind of happy
that my heart rate was okay.
And I was just so tired that Ijust ended up falling asleep.
So I wake up the next morningand I'm still like, I haven't
been filled in on everythingthat had happened.
And then, I looked at my watchand it was, you know, I guess it
(08:15):
was like 630 or something likethat in the morning.
And I was like, I need to getout of here.
Like it's Monday morning.
I have to go to work.
I've got stuff to do.
And, um, I flagged down a nursewho was, who walked by and then
she's like, Oh, you're up, howare you feeling?
And then I was like, I feelgreat.
I need to get out of here.
Like, what's the, you know, whatdo I need to do to get out of
here?
And then she started laughingand she's like, Oh, like you are
not going anywhere where we needto figure out what the hell
(08:36):
happened to you last night, andthen she filled me in and she
said, look, you know, you wentinto a cardiac arrest and, you
flatlined.
clinically dead for threeminutes.
It took us two defibrillationsto get your heart rate started
again.
And we don't know what causedit.
The drug that we gave you, youhad a, um, you know, you had a
reaction to it and I put you inthis coma.
And so all this random stuffhappened and we don't want to
(08:57):
let you go yet.
We want to keep you forobservation and make sure that
this doesn't happen again.
And so I was like, okay, thatmakes sense.
and then so I stayed, I stayedthere for four or five days and
then after all that time, youknow, they were taking my blood
and they had the ECG monitor onmy, on my chest the whole time.
And then cardiologist finallycomes through and it's like,
okay, you know, we've beenmonitoring you every day and
(09:18):
this is what we think ishappening with.
We think that you've got thisrare heart condition and, um,
there's two ways that we cantreat it.
And one is by medicating you.
So basically you just go onmedication, take a daily
medication for the rest of yourlife and it shouldn't be an
issue for you.
And we just monitor you.
or you could have a surgery andyou don't have to take
(09:38):
medication and we can fix itpermanently.
And in that moment, I just wassearching for certainty.
That was like my main driver wascertainty in my health.
And I, I'm not a fan of thepharmaceutical industry or
taking medication.
And I did not want to takemedication for the rest of my
life.
So that was virtually an instantno for me.
I didn't want to have heartsurgery either.
(10:00):
But when I weighed the two up,you know, the way he presented
it, I thought to myself, havingthe heart surgery is probably
the best option.
If he.
Seems to think it's a goodoption.
Then I'll go for that.
So we opted for that.
So, but I needed to do it ASAPbecause I was scared out of my
pants on this whole situation.
So I'm like, can we do it today?
Can we do it tomorrow?
When can we do it?
(10:20):
It's like, we can't do it foranother week or whatever.
So I ended up going home andthen I went back to the hospital
and I did this heart surgery.
And then I went home for threemonths and recovered and it was
keyhole surgery through thegroin so they wind up these
wires up in through your arteryand get into your heart and do
all this stuff.
And, um, so they did that andthen I went home for three
months and they were stillmonitoring me and they had, um,
(10:40):
like the home ECG test, thething that they wanted me to do
every now and again.
And, turns out after the threemonths, they, I thought that I
was recovered and in the clear.
And then it turns out after thethree months.
Once they said to me, um, you'renot in the clear, your ECGs are
showing irregularities, and wethink that we haven't fixed the
problem.
We want to do the surgery again.
(11:01):
And that was the lowest point ofmy entire life when they said
that to me, because I just gotall this fear, all this doubt,
all these emotions just came inwhere I thought to myself, I
can't beat this.
I can't get past this.
you know, I'm not meant to bealive.
This is going to kill me.
I'm not going to make it throughthe surgery.
(11:22):
you know, like I'm destined fordoom, blah, blah, blah.
And so I said to the surgeon,like, let's again, same story.
Like let's do it today.
Let's do it tomorrow.
How fast can you get this in?
And then he's like, um, it'sgoing to take me a week to
organize it.
And then I was like, okay.
book me in.
So I went in and I did thissecond surgery, which is
literally the exact samesurgery.
And I did it the second time andthen it was successful thank
(11:45):
God.
And then I went home for threemonths and recovered again.
And then that's when I was ableto kind of get my life started
again.
And that whole process reallywas the huge transformation that
I went through being inhospital, being in the cardiac
ward, waiting for the surgery,being around all the other men
that were also in a similarsituation where, you know, that
will go in.
They were older than me.
(12:05):
I was the youngest person there.
The only guy in my, in the 20s.
Everyone's in their 50s and 60s.
They're out of shape,overweight, look like crap, you
know, going in for quadruplebypasses and heart transplants
and pacemakers and all of theselike full on open heart surgery
type stuff.
And, and they're getting therapyat the same time every day.
So I'm sitting in this room,this common room in my bed.
(12:29):
And then every day therapistsare coming in and they're
pulling, you know, the, theshower screen across to have a
therapy session with theseindividuals and preparing them
for death.
And that was the most, um, Iguess, impactful thing that
happened.
One of the most impactful thingsthat came out of the whole,
experience was that, It justblew my mind just hearing all of
(12:51):
these therapy sessions and howthey were getting these people
ready for death.
And if they didn't make it andhave they spoken to their
families and blah, blah, blah,they have their affairs in
order, like all this crazystuff.
And so it just really made mecontemplate life.
And, you know, as a 27 year old,that's not something that you
would generally do.
You think that you'reinvincible, at least I did.
And, um, just don't contemplatehealth as an issue at all, at
(13:12):
least at that time.
And so, It really changed theway I think about everything and
I just had a newfound,appreciation for life and health
and taking care of myself.
And that's what just the switchjust flicked in me.
And I was like, okay, from nowon, I'm going to be The
healthiest person on the planetand not only that, I'm going to
help all these other peoplethese guys that are in here now
(13:35):
to try and avoid this situation.
And, I guess.
The line that came up, it kepton coming up in my head that I
kept thinking out about wasprevention is the cure.
And so I thought to myself, noneof us need to be here.
You know, we can take care ofourselves.
We can live a healthy lifestyle.
You know, we can have stronghearts for our whole lives.
We don't need to destroy ourbodies every day and just break
(13:57):
ourselves down to the pointwhere we get ourselves into this
situation.
And so that's what I did.
That led me to then leave the itindustry, move into the fitness
industry.
and one thing led to anothernext thing, you know, I'm a
personal trainer.
I'm a life coach.
I'm a gym owner and I'm helpingall these people every single
day.
And I'm using my story asmotivation for everybody.
(14:17):
And.
Now that's been like 13, 14years or something that I've
been doing that and it's justbeen an amazing journey.
I've definitely, I've helpedthousands of people, um, change
their lives, change their healthand potentially avoid, bad
situations like what I gotmyself into when I was younger.
And um, it's, it's been a muchmore fulfilling life and a much
(14:39):
more rewarding life.
And you know, I feel like it'sonly just beginning.
Magic Barclay (14:44):
What a crazy.
Busy story.
And I love that you're so openabout it.
So thank you very much.
Really going to help a lot ofpeople.
And so I ask my guests the samethree questions.
You've pretty much answered thefirst one and it's normally,
what can your expertise do toaccelerate health, both physical
(15:07):
and emotional and spiritual.
But I'm going to throw you aside question cause you've
already kind of answered that.
So often.
We're taught not to listen toour bodies and big pharma and
conventional medicine,allopathic medicine, you know,
want to be put on a pedestal anddon't listen to your body.
(15:27):
Cause we know everything.
And what would you know for you?
What was that turning pointwhere you checked in with your
heart and you went, Hey, whatare you trying to tell me?
Like, what can you offer thelisteners about listening to
their body?
Jai Bazevski (15:43):
That's a great, great question.
I mean, we, we do need to tapinto that.
And that was my marker forwhether I was okay or not,
whether I could feel my heart,like, jumping through my chest.
And, I mean, that wasn't sosubtle because of, the extent
that it got to, but since then Ihave definitely had a deeper
intuition with my body and howit responds to things like
(16:06):
caffeine and, sugar and, youknow, I don't take medication.
I don't buy into big pharma, Idon't buy into allopathy or
anything like that.
but yeah, I mean, it's somethingthat isn't really taught and
it's something that we're allcapable of.
And that's the great news isthat.
We can tap into this.
We just have to have that, Iguess, that self awareness or,
(16:28):
or have a moment where we cancheck in on ourselves, but it
comes back to, I think,confidence in your ability to,
heal.
one of my good friends is achiropractor and he has a
saying, and it's that, the bodyis self healing and self
regulating.
And I believe that to be true.
And we just have to get out ofthe way sometimes.
(16:49):
And I think that a lot of peopledon't have the faith in
themselves to heal, where reallyeverything is just a facilitator
for us to do the healingourselves.
So whether that's through a, youknow, a doctor or a medicine or
something, but, Yeah, that'ssomething that people are
lacking.
I think a lot of people arelacking that confidence.
(17:10):
I think it comes down to theconfidence and the intuition to
tap into the, that knowingnessof that the body is, you know,
it is self healing.
It is self regulating.
Like you don't have to thinkabout your heart beating or, The
insulin in your body beingregulated or your breathing, or,
you know, all of the millionsand millions of functions that
(17:32):
are going on in your body.
And, you know, me coming, goingback to that IT, mindset and
that IT background.
I always look at the human bodyas the greatest computer system
that has ever been created onthe face of the earth that will
never be broken.
Beaten will never be overcome byAI or any no matter what kind of
(17:52):
technology there ever comes inthe future The human body is the
best technology out there and wejust don't have the manual for
it.
We don't know how it fullyoperates.
So I think that when we can tapinto that intuition And we can,
take the time and take themoment to, I guess it's called
mindfulness, where we check inon ourselves and say, how am I
(18:13):
feeling?
And how do I feel now?
You know?
And for me, I think that I gotthose lessons Well, from the
obvious, but then since thenfrom being really healthy, it
kind of, it does put you at abaseline.
And then when you do somethingunhealthy, like say, get drunk
or, overdose on sugar oroverdose on caffeine or, or
(18:35):
something like that, it You feelso thrown out of your alignment
that it's just so obvious and,and you know it, you can connect
the dot because it's like, Oh, Ijust ate 10 Easter bunnies on
Easter day.
And now my, body feels like crapor I've got all the, you know,
I've got certain kind of, issuesor symptoms or whatever it is.
(18:55):
and you can connect the dotsthat way.
But I think when our bodies arefull of crap, when we're
constantly eating junk food,when we're constantly drinking
like Coca Cola or alcohol orconsuming Bad food and not
taking care of our bodies.
It almost severs that intuitiveconnection between us and our
ability to tap into ourselvesand see whether we are okay or
(19:19):
not.
And I think that getting back tothat, that baseline of health
really just amplifies thatintuition.
And it, gives us a deeperunderstanding of how our body
does heal itself and how it doesreact and respond to, negative
influences.
Not only for what you put inyour body, but even what's on
the news and what we're hearing,you know, around the world and,
(19:41):
um, relationships andconversations with people,
workplace stuff, you know,anything that's stressful and
negative can have such a hugeimpact.
And yeah, it is, it is hard todetermine it when you are
constantly just not taking careof yourself.
And when your body is full ofchemicals, medication, basically
numbed out on maybe antianxieties or, you know, Big
(20:04):
pharma meds or whatever it maybe, or just, you're just numbing
yourself out with food, overconsuming calories and just, you
know, just not treating yourbody, right?
So it's a dilemma, it's anissue.
And I think that the solution isfor us to, to, you know, put the
brakes on and reduce all of thedamage that we're doing and just
(20:25):
try and find that baseline ofhealth.
And, and then I think that thatis the first stage to then move
on from there.
Magic Barclay (20:33):
I love it.
Listeners.
If only there was a camera in myoffice right now, while Jai was
talking, I'm here doing a happydance behind my desk because the
things that Jai has just.
Shared with you, preach, dude,that's the truth.
Like, please listen to thisepisode, share it, like it,
(20:56):
subscribe, follow Jay to everyother podcast he's on and me, by
the way, but this is the truththat you need to hear.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next standard question is aroundwealth, and it's normally, what
are your top three tips tocreating wealth, financial,
emotional, and personal wealth?
(21:16):
I believe a lot of your wealthshould be obviously your health
and your body.
You can't, your legs.
Because they get you aroundevery day.
You know, if you have two legsat work, that's a form of
wealth.
A lot of people don't.
So what are your top three tipsto creating wealth?
(21:40):
And let's tailor this tolistening to your body.
You've mentioned one already,and that is, you know, listen to
your, your body's whispers of,you know, you have too much
caffeine.
And your body says, please don'tdo that to me.
What are some other ways thatpeople can build their health
wealth?
Jai Bazevski (22:00):
Yeah, that's an awesome question.
And like, I always say that ourbody is the greatest asset that
we have.
It's not your house or, youknow, your crypto account or,
you know, your cash or anything.
It's your body because that'swhat is built.
Bring it in the world for you onevery level.
So I think that, managing yourenergy is probably one of the
(22:21):
hugest things and, I mean, it'salmost like being like a robot
in a sense, but being consistentwith a routine is such a huge
one, because not only does ithelp you to maintain a high
level of energy and.
Capacity, brain capacity tofunction, to be able to make the
right decisions in your life,but it also sets you up for
(22:44):
success in your business becauseit's repetition that gets us
everything that we want in, youknow, in terms of success.
You know, if you need to getfrom A to B, then it takes daily
repetition to accomplish thattask or that goal.
So I think that if you aretrying to get to sleep.
At the same time, you know, someof us are, moms with newborn
(23:07):
babies that are waking up everyhour crying.
And you know, it's for me tosay, you know, force yourself to
get eight hours sleep.
It's not overly practical andrealistic for everybody.
So rather than saying, get youreight hours, like everybody else
says, I'd rather say get into aroutine of sleep where you're
going to bed at the same timeand you're waking up at the same
(23:28):
time.
So that's.
Cause that's the foundation ofyour energy.
So if you're going to bed ateight o'clock and then you're
waking up at whatever time youwake up, even if it's
interrupted, even if you're, youknow, you've got a baby or you
got stuff going on, if you canstart to get into that pattern,
then that's going to manipulateyour circadian rhythms.
That's going to, alter yourenergy field.
So that is the foundation Ithink is to get to bed at the
(23:51):
same time every day and thenI'll wake up at the exact same
time, seven days a week.
And, and that's the first thing.
And then the second thing ishaving a morning routine where
you are executing the importantthings, the high value tasks,
the things that accumulatewealth in your life on a
spiritual level, on a physicallevel, on a mental level, and on
(24:13):
a personal level.
bank account level as well.
So having that.
I'll identifying, you know, thehigh, high value things because,
you know, we, you've probablyheard of the Pareto principle,
the 80 20 rule where they saythat, 20 percent of the actions
that we take are bringing us 80percent of the value.
And 80 percent of the actionsthat we're taking are only
(24:35):
bringing us 20 percent of thevalue.
So we need to identify whatthose 20 percent of the highest
value returning tasks are, andwe need to factor them in as a
priority at the beginning of theday, or whenever is practical
for you to do it with, you know,compliance every day and
(24:55):
consistency.
And then what happens is overtime.
You look in the mirror andyou're a different person.
Like you, you, it'sunbelievable.
The, the amount of things youcan accomplish, on all levels,
but, you know, speaking wealthwise, like it's amazing what you
can accomplish when you haveconsistency and the biggest
roadblocks that I see peopletake in my career.
(25:16):
Not only from a, from a clientperspective where I'm working
with clients to improve theirhealth, but also in my industry
where I'm, associating withother people who do exactly what
I do, business owners,entrepreneurs, people, you know,
in the fitness space, if eitherthey don't have the consistency
in how they run their business,or if the client doesn't have
(25:37):
the consistency in executing,the high value tasks that
they've.
Then nothing changes and theyjust end up getting frustrated
and they don't see results or ittakes a long time or the results
are fluctuating up and down.
And, um, you don't grow likethat.
You don't develop, you don'tmove forward like that.
The most important thing.
(25:57):
is taking those actions on aregular basis, even if those
actions are imperfect becausethey improve over time.
Like everything that you do getsbetter and better.
If you refer back to when youfirst started driving a car, you
get your license and you'repretty much a crappy driver and
your L's can't merge into lanes.
And, you know, can't domultitasking, like Operate the
(26:18):
blinker, you know, maybe whilechanging gears and putting the
clutch in and keeping in betweenthe lines.
Right.
But then over time, yourimperfect action becomes,
perfected.
And, that is the mindset that Ithink a lot of people don't have
because the emotions get in theway.
And then the emotions stop usfrom the execution because it's
like, Oh, I'm not gettinganywhere.
(26:40):
this is frustrating.
This is hard.
Or like this workout sucks.
Or I don't like this.
But it's like, no, go do thatworkout.
Go do that walk, go, go to bed,you know, don't stay up and
binge or, or stick to that dietplan.
You know, don't eat thatchocolate or that don't drink
that extra glass of wine orwhatever it is.
It doesn't matter, but like justpulling yourself back all the
time and just sticking to thatconsistency.
(27:03):
I feel like the gold of all ofthe world comes from
consistency.
Magic Barclay (27:08):
Very true.
Right.
Final standard question isaround weight.
Many people look particularly atpersonal trainers and go, well,
what would you know?
You've never had a weightproblem.
You've never been where I am,where my knees hurt and
everything hurts.
Have you ever had a weightproblem?
If so, how did you win the war?
(27:28):
And what can you offer thelisteners who might be on this
journey looking at their fitnesspeople in their lives going.
Yeah.
No, you've never been where Iam.
Jai Bazevski (27:38):
That's such a great question.
And you know, what's interestingis that it's a huge
misconception as well, becausethere are a huge amount of
people in the fitness industrythat came from that exact same
place that that person that you,you know, suggest is saying
where they were overweight, theyhad a transformational moment.
(27:58):
Um, they went through that hugetransformation of weight loss
and, you know, Using body fatand getting themselves fit.
And then they were soaccomplished and excited and
motivated from that, that theywant to help other people.
There's one commonality thatI've found in the health
industry.
It's that.
People that get into the healthindustry, whether it's coaching
(28:21):
or personal training, they wantto help people.
That's really what it comes downto.
They are the type of people thatjust want to help people.
and a huge amount of them havegone through exactly that, which
the clients are going through atthat time, which is trying to,
you know, lose weight in thiscase.
for me, yeah, my, my weight hasfluctuated Pretty much
(28:42):
throughout my entire adult lifeas a child, I was pretty much a
skinny kid.
Like when I was really young,like, um, under 12, I was too
skinny.
You know, I was the, the one inthe family where my grandparents
and my parents and my auntie anduncles and stuff, they'd be
like, you need to eat more, youknow, finish the food on your
plate.
And I'd be there going, I'm nothungry.
(29:03):
and so I was that.
I was that underweight kid and,you know, I was a scrawny kid
and all that kind of stuff.
And then once I became an adultand, you know, got a part time
job and started making an incomeand started going to McDonald's
and started drinking soft drinkand started, you know, basically
just doing whatever the hell Iwanted to, I gained a lot of
weight and I went from 78 kilosall the way up to 92 kilos at
(29:26):
one point.
And I would just fluctuateconstantly.
And I would try and battle thatby.
playing more sport, going forruns.
I'm going to the gym and liftingweights, trying to gain more
muscle.
And, um, and that's why Ifluctuated because there were
times where I made the rightchanges, just fluking my way
through it.
but ultimately I never lookedinto the diet side of things.
(29:48):
And ultimately.
That's where it's the missinglink really it's, it's the diet
and getting that right.
And a lot of people don't getthe whole thing.
Like they think, you know, youneed to go to the gym and lift
weights for, you know, two hoursevery day and be this, you know,
gym rat when it's just not thecase.
the, Best approach to managingweight and dealing with that is
(30:10):
looking towards the calories,eating as healthy as you
possibly can, you know, usingyour, discernment around what is
healthy and what isn't like, youknow, basic knowledge of eating
vegetables and things like that,but then also.
If you really have a problemwith your weight, then you need
to measure because, a greatquote from Tony Robbins, one of
my favorite mentors is you can'tmanage what you don't measure.
(30:32):
And if you are not measuring,the changes that you're
implementing, then how do youknow whether they're working or
not?
And the greatest thing that youcan manage and measure to lose
weight and to just change yourhealth overall is what you're
putting in your body because ithas the biggest impact on how
your body responds.
And so in terms of gainingweight, The thing that everybody
(30:53):
needs to understand.
So if you're listening right nowand, and you're carrying an
extra, say 10 kilos or 20 kilosor more of excess weight, and
you've got sore knees and youdon't know what to do or how to,
and you've tried diet pills andyou've been to doctors and maybe
you've even had surgeries andthey haven't worked for you,
which I've, that's.
(31:14):
You know, been the case a lot.
then what I would suggest isdon't worry about hurting your
knees more by going out andrunning and going to the gym
and, and, you know, getting apersonal trainer, doing any of
that stuff.
The best thing to do is to juststart out by changing your diet
and the way you approach it isby understanding how many
calories you're going.
(31:35):
But he needs to consume becausethat is based off your
metabolism.
So we can talk about having bigbones and having slow
metabolisms all we want.
But at the end of the day, thatdoesn't help us get the result
that we want.
And at the end of the day, yourbody is self healing and it is
self regulating, and you need toget out of the way of that.
And the way you need to get outof the way of that is by not
(31:55):
telling yourself that you're bigboned and That you have a slow
metabolism and that nothingworks for you.
And that you've triedeverything, because if you tried
everything, then you would haveaccomplished the result, but you
haven't tried everything.
You've tried everything thatdoesn't work for you.
So now it's time to try thething that works for you.
And the thing that will work foryou is understanding your
metabolism.
So what do you do?
(32:17):
You just simply get onto Googleand you look up, macro
calculator and then you put inyour information.
I am a male.
I'm 42 years old.
I weigh 84 kilos and I'm 183centimeters tall.
Enter.
And then that will tell you,okay, great.
Here's your metabolism.
Your body burns 2000 calories aday.
(32:40):
Great.
Now I know that my body is goingto burn 2000 calories a day.
That is my metabolism.
That is how my metabolismoperates.
So if I were to speed up mymetabolism, then I would just
simply go for a walk because Iwould burn an additional, say,
100 calories.
So now my metabolism is 2100calories.
(33:00):
It went up.
So I just sped up my metabolismby going for a walk.
So what also that means is I caneat 2100 calories of food and
now I won't gain weight becauseI'm burning it off.
So the problem that most peoplehave is that they're eating way
more calories than theirmetabolism is burning on a 24
hour basis.
Metabolism can't keep up withthe consumption.
(33:23):
So, and the reason why that is,is because we live in the fast
food era where everything isjunk and high calorie, because
that's what sells.
So they put all this sugar in,they put all the salt in, they
put all the fat in.
They put just, you know,calories upon calories into all
this junk food and mostly comingfrom oil and, you know, food.
fried stuff and everything.
(33:44):
So it holds all of all of thesecalories.
You know, oil is very highcalorie.
Fat is very high calorie.
So one gram of fat is ninecalories.
Whereas if you look at proteinor carbohydrates, one gram of
protein or one gram ofcarbohydrate is only four
calories.
So if you eat more protein andmore and more carbohydrates than
(34:07):
you do fat, then your overallcalories will be lower over the
day.
So you will not be in a hugesurplus.
What we actually need to do isget ourselves into a deficit.
So if you start going back tothe Tony Robbins quote is you
can't manage what you're notmeasuring if you start to manage
the calories that you'reconsuming.
(34:28):
So your calories make up threemacronutrients, which is the
protein, the carbohydrates andthe fats.
We need all three of them, butat what ratios, if you're eating
junk food, then you're probably.
Um, astronomically over thelimit for fat and carbohydrates
and very often, but not alwaysunder the limit for protein.
(34:50):
So what we want to do is we needto change that up.
We need to increase our proteincalories.
we need to have a.
A medium to moderate level ofcarbohydrate calories.
And then we need to reduce thefat calories a little bit if we
want to burn fat and we want tolose weight because that's going
to bring our overall calorieconsumption down.
So it's a numbers game really.
(35:11):
And if we can look at.
Like the whole scenario likethat, then it is just, you know,
plain numbers on paper and youcan succeed.
And not only that, you actuallysee rapid results because this
is how I've been getting resultsfor my clients for many years.
And it works not only for them,but also for myself.
It works for my wife.
It works for my family and yeah.
(35:31):
And it works for my clients andit works basically for
everybody.
There's nobody that it doesn'twork for because we all have a
metabolism.
We all.
burn a X amount of calories in aday.
So if you can just match yourdiet to your metabolism, then
you will see the results.
And it doesn't mean that youhave to, what did I say?
(35:51):
Eat like a rabbit or eat rabbitfood or, just eat lettuce and
celery or whatever you can eat.
Technically, whatever you want,just eat it within the rations
that meet your dailyrequirements to match your
metabolism.
And then what you'll find is allof that excess weight that's
(36:12):
been loading up and loading upand loading up from all the
excess calories that are unableto get burnt off, they end up
getting burnt up and being usedup because you're, you're in a
deficit.
So you burn up all of thatexcess weight that's in your
body.
All of that energy gets allburnt up and converted into
energy and used up all that fat.
And then now you're at yourideal weight.
You feel amazing.
You got more energy.
(36:32):
Wow.
Your metabolism's up now becauseyou've got more energy to burn.
You want to burn more.
You're more active.
You can work out now.
You don't have sore knees.
You can walk, you can even run,you can play sports, you can do
whatever.
So the more activity you addonto your 24 hour day.
The higher your metabolism goes.
So the lower the excess bodyweight that you're carrying, you
know, it's like a cycle and itall just kind of works and keeps
(36:56):
on getting better and better andbetter.
So, you know, ultimately we needto take a step back.
We need to assess.
The and measure the amount ofconsumption versus the output.
And then we need to alter thoseratios.
You can still have yourchocolate cake.
You can still have your glass ofwine.
You can still even eat pizza ifyou want.
(37:16):
Just make sure that it factorsin with those calories and with.
You know, your metabolism andyou're totally fine.
last week, Kate and I, my wifeand I, we made some homemade on
the weekend.
Actually, we made some homemadepizzas.
Um, we hadn't had pizzas in sucha long time.
You know, we don't, we don't buypizzas.
We try to keep it as healthy aspossible, but we felt like
(37:37):
pizza.
And we're like, Hey, why don'twe make our own pizza?
So we made our own pizza.
We went and bought theingredients and it was.
Amazing.
It was phenomenal.
The calories were higher thanwhat we would normally have.
Cause we put a bunch of cheeseon there and stuff, but we just
factored it in and it worked soyou can have the things that
it's like, a lot of people arescared to jump into something
like this because they thinkthey've got to give up so much,
(37:57):
but you're not.
Giving up anything.
You're just changing the way youdo it.
And that's really, you know, thekey to success in my eyes.
And I think that's how we canget to that next level and, and
tick that box of, you know,moving from I'm overweight, my
knees hurt.
I feel crap.
And you don't get it to know,listen to what they're saying,
(38:17):
because there is.
Like, there's education behind,you know, personal training,
there's education behind, um,health coaching, there is a
method to the madness, it doeswork, you just gotta get the
right person, you know, get theright program, understand your
body, and then get out of theway and execute, basically.
Magic Barclay (38:37):
Love it.
Okay.
We have covered so much.
The listeners ears are probablybursting with all the
information coming out of theirbrains.
So where can people find you?
And also, do you have a freebiefor them?
Jai Bazevski (38:50):
Absolutely.
And absolutely.
So, um, I am on Instagram forthe most part, I document my
life so people can.
See how easy it can be done.
So I wake up in the morning andI start documenting what I'm
doing.
You know, what supplements I'mtaking, what exercises I'm
doing, all that kind of stuff.
you know, I talk about certainbooks I'm reading and everything
that's all on Instagram.
(39:10):
So you can find me there andInstagram.
the handle is at S Q onefitness, a U S.
Um, SQ one Fitness A and then,you can also check out my
website if you wanna look at theprograms I offer.
So you can do group coachingwith me, or you can do
one-on-one coaching with me.
(39:30):
And my website is sq onefitness.com.
Do au and I have a.
Free seven day program and it'scalled a reboot and basically I
just I set you up witheverything that I've said.
Um, I get all of the informationthat I need from you and then I
set you up with the idealcalories for your body type and
(39:52):
your metabolism.
I preset your protein, in howmany grams per day specifically
I want you to have, how manygrams of carbohydrates, how many
grams of fat.
I also give you a workoutprogram.
Now that workout program Is itvaries depending on the person.
So if you are, you know,overweight and have bad knees,
then it might just be going fora 10 minute walk every day, if
(40:14):
that's all you can handle.
So it's scaled to theindividual, but it could also
scale all the way up to going tothe gym and lifting weights.
Um, so it depends on, on theperson and it also depends on
their goals as well.
Sometimes I'll get.
Um, a client who's signed up fora marathon and they're like, I'm
running a marathon in Septemberand I need to train for it.
(40:35):
And I don't know how to trainfor it.
It's like, great.
So then, you know, they'll berunning in there because that's
their specific thing.
so it's a seven day reboot and,you can access it by the
website, just put in yourdetails and then I will get an
email and follow you up and getyou set up in my app.
So you'll have a private appwhere you can access your
workout program.
You can message me directly.
So we stay in contact back andforward.
(40:57):
Um, you'll have a diet plan inthere.
I give you all the recipes.
I basically tell you everysingle thing that you need to do
for a week and just to get theball rolling for you.
And then from there, after theweek, basically, you have a
whole bunch of knowledge thatyou can take on and choose to do
with it what you want to do.
Or if you want to go deeper andwork together with me, then
there's the option to do that aswell.
Magic Barclay (41:18):
Fantastic.
All right.
We're going to wrap it up there,Jai.
Thank you so much for joining uson A Magical Life.
We've really loved having you.
Jai Bazevski (41:27):
Excellent.
It's been great to be here.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate it.
Magic Barclay (41:31):
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