March 11, 2025 • 40 mins
Are you navigating the complex landscape of entrepreneurship as a woman? The journey to financial success can present unique challenges, especially when comparing six-figure earners to their seven-figure counterparts. In this enlightening podcast episode, we dive deep into the distinctions between these two groups, exploring their mindsets, fears, and the crucial differences in their business relationships.
We discuss how women at the six-figure level often feel a sense of just making ends meet, balancing their aspirations and financial realities, while seven-figure entrepreneurs confront the pressures of higher taxes and the responsibility that comes with substantial income. We also highlight how their perspectives shift, creating challenges in networking—where six-figure women often find friendships, seven-figure women frequently navigate client relationships.
Insights shared reflect on fears faced by entrepreneurs at both levels, from the fear of success among six-figure women, concerned about sustainability, to the fear of failure felt by seven-figure women, grappling with maintaining their status. The episode tackles strategies too, emphasizing growth tactics for six-figure earners versus the operational frameworks of those making seven figures.
Join us as we unpack these experiences and perspectives, fostering a conversation that empowers women at every business stage. Whether you’re in the planning stages, reaching for six figures, or enjoying the complexities of seven figures, this episode promises valuable insights to elevate your entrepreneurial journey. Together, let's build a community that nurtures growth, encourages connection, and celebrates the unique experiences of women in business. Be sure to subscribe, share, or leave a review to help spread the word!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you know that four out of every 10 businesses
is woman-owned?
Let's talk about some of thedifferences between the 12% of
those women-owned businessesthat make it to six figures a
year and the 1.9% of women-ownedbusinesses that make it to
seven figures each year, becauseI have been speaking to more
(00:23):
and more of both of these groupsof women and I'm noticing that
there are some differences.
I'm noticing that they'realmost living completely
opposite lives in some ways, andI just thought that I wanted to
open up a casual conversation.
I literally just sat here andjotted down each of the things
that came to mind throughconversations, through
(00:44):
interactions, through readingthings online, each of the
things that came to mind throughconversations, through
interactions, through readingthings online, all of the
different things that I haveinput into this.
And this is what I've come upwith, because here's the deal
I'm running women's retreats andone of the most impactful parts
of it, one of the most criticalparts of it, is making sure
that I have the right women inthe room with each other,
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because think about this what ifyou had two women sitting on
the couch right next to eachother opening up about their
problems, and the first womanopens up and pours her heart out
and is just crying about howshe's only just making enough in
her business to be able to payher bills, just making enough in
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her business to be able toreinvest a little bit back into
herself like retreats, like this, to be able to pour into
herself, but not enough yet todo all the things that she
really wants to do with her kidsand with her family.
And then we get to the nextwoman sitting right next to her,
having just heard her say myproblem is that I'm making too
(01:49):
much money in my business andthat I'm paying too much in
taxes and I need to figure outhow to spend more money in my
business, which is a legitimateproblem that women at that level
make, because when you start tocrawl up in your earnings that
women at that level make,because when you start to crawl
up in your earnings, the amountof percentage that we are paying
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out into taxes becomesastronomical when you finally
get to those higher numbers.
So I can understand how that isan actual problem for women who
are entering into the land ofmaking seven figures.
Can you see how it would bevery difficult to hold the space
for both of those women andgive actual, usable advice in
that moment, without having oneor the other roll their eyes and
(02:31):
look at the opposite personlike their problem wasn't valid,
valid.
Working as hard as we do aswomen in business to be able to
build our brands up to a pointto making six figures is
something that we should be so,so incredibly proud of.
(02:51):
That is superseding what mostpeople bring in in their careers
.
So taking a moment to realizethat is awesome and it is still
hard.
And it's even more devastatingwhen you think you're going to
get to that point and be able tolive a specific lifestyle and
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the only to realize it took waymore investing back into your
business than you originallyimagined.
So you're actually not quite inthat place of complete
financial freedom that youthought six figures was going to
bring.
And yes, as you continue toclimb up in six figures on your
journey to seven figures, youwill find more and more comfort.
(03:34):
And if you're like any of theother people that I know who
have a scarcity mindset aroundmoney, that does not leave you.
When the bank accounts getbigger.
In fact, the scarcity mindsetgets bigger because you feel
like you have more to lose.
So let's get into some of thedifferences that I truly believe
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.
This is not factual by any means.
This is simply anecdotal.
This is pulled from stories, mylife, my opinion, 100%.
I take all responsibility fortoday's podcast episode and this
is just something I notice andit doesn't mean it's right or
wrong.
And if you have a differentexperience or different
knowledge and wisdom to give me,please reach out.
Please connect with me onsocial media, meet with me on
(04:18):
Instagram and let me know.
At Jaina, that's J-A-Y-N.
As in Nancy, a dot swan likethe bird, jaynaswan.
Meet me on Instagram.
Let's chat in the DMs.
I'd love to hear your storiesBased on the knowledge that I
have up until this point.
Here's what I got.
(04:38):
So the six figure side of theequation typically is still in
that land of I'm just makingenough.
It's not necessarily in the Idon't have enough, but it is
still in the I'm just makingenough.
I can pay my bills, I'm good,but I'm not really good good
enough that I can just do thethings I want.
On the flip side, theseven-figure group, they're
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usually what I'm hearing is mytaxes are too high.
I need to figure out.
I'm making so much money nowthat, yes, what I'm hearing is
my taxes are too high.
I need to figure out.
I'm making so much money nowthat, yes, I'm very good and,
yes, I am financially free, andI need to figure out ways for my
business to have more expenses,because they're running really
lean businesses.
Which is ideal in this world islimiting.
(05:20):
The amount of exposure that wehave to expenses is huge in
business.
The leaner that you can run,the better.
That's just why digitalbusiness is my favorite thing in
the world, because there is nolandlord to pay every month and
I you know, other than thecouple hundred dollars I pay to
maintain the website.
I mean, that's about it, and soI really think that there is
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something to that.
Now, if you get to that point,you are now starting to make a
million dollars in this reallylean internet digital business.
You might find yourself in asimilar position and I might
have a solution towards the endfor you if that is something
that you're struggling with, sostay with me.
The next one is that typically,people on the six-figure side of
the fence are still working intheir zone of genius, and what
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this means.
If you have not read the book,it's natural skill, so it's what
you're born with.
They basically figured tosomething that they were really
good at or had a knack for orwere very curious about and
learned a bit, and they're stillbuilding to that point in their
business, basically on skill,on their personality, on who
they are and what they've becomeup until this point.
On the flip side of the fence,our seven-figure business owners
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have grown and scaled theirbusiness to a point to where
they have a team, and this teamhandles a lot of the different
tasks and functions within thebusiness, which allows them to
be able to function from theirzone of excellence and zone of
excellence is something that isestablished over time or a skill
that's built, and that skill inthis case would be running your
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business or maintaining thebrand.
Maybe that's the skill, butthey're not necessarily doing
the inner workings of thebusiness.
So we have someone who's usingstill their natural skills and
talents to build the brand andsomeone else who is allowing
other people's natural skillsand talents to do that, and they
then work on the business sideof things as an actual CEO of
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the business.
The next thing that I notice isthat on the six-figure side of
things, they tend to focus andtalk more about strategy,
strategy, about how do I goviral, what's the best strategy
for a landing page.
It's always like strategy,strategy, strategy.
How do I get an edge?
How do I grow a little bitfaster?
How do I get people's attention?
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It's all about strategy.
Yet when I have conversationson the other side of the fence
with our seven figure women,they're only ever talking about
systems, systems and structuresthat they can then pull people
through and have them walk ajourney and have them on a
client's journey.
So those seven-figure people,those seven-figure women who are
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earning at that point, they areallowing themselves to take a
step back.
They're not looking at theindividual post strategy.
They are looking at the biggerpicture, the bigger machine as a
whole, the business.
They're making sure that all ofthe systems and structures are
in place so that client has asmooth and seamless client
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journey from beginning to end.
Two very different focuses.
The next thing that I notice isthat when you start to get to
the six-figure land, everyone isyour friend.
You are meeting more people andyou're like oh, just, oh, yeah,
hey, girlfriend, hey girlfriend.
Everyone is your best friend.
Yet when I talk to people whoare in seven-figure land, that
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isn't the case Now.
Everyone around you is yourclient.
I mean you do go out to eventsand you're out at dinners and
you're out at fundraisers andyou're out at all of these
different things.
You're meeting people butthey're more or less looked at
and treated as clients andclient relationships and it's
very much business networking.
It doesn't feel like friendshipanymore and so there's just a
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different level of energy inthat relationship and I hear
that that's a struggle.
When you turn around, you lookaround and everyone around you
is a client or someone you havea client style relationship with
.
So you have a lot of difficultyin building those friendships.
Now, part of that comes from if, if we flip back to the
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six-figure side of the fence,they are at a point where
they're finally able to get intobigger and bigger rooms.
Maybe they are going to biggernetworking events, maybe they're
speaking on summit stages,online or in person, maybe
they're doing different things,but what's happening is they're
finally getting income in theirbusiness that they can reinvest,
so they're getting into some ofthose bigger conferences or
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they're going to seminars orthey're getting more
certifications, which puts youin bigger rooms with bigger
people.
Right On the flip side,seven-figure women are now
getting into smaller and smallerrooms, more exclusive rooms,
smaller and smaller places.
It's not something that'saccessible by everyone.
It's definitely something theyhave to invite only they have to
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earn their way into.
There's also different types ofconversations.
Having Our six-figure women.
They're having longerconversations.
They want to talk more abouteverything.
They just want to keep goingand going.
Yet our seven-fig figure womenthey're very intentional with
their conversations.
They only have meaningfulconversations.
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If it's not leading towardsbuilding their brain, their body
or their business, they areleaving the conversation.
I mean it's meaningful thingsfor them, which I think comes
with prioritizing your time moreand valuing your time more.
They want to make sure they'renot just talking into the wind
or talking to anyone andeveryone.
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They're just being veryintentional where they're
putting their energy versusthose six-figure women.
There's nothing wrong with this.
It is just where you are in theprocess.
I actually think it's quiteunique, the juxtaposition I was
finding in a lot of this.
Actually think it's quiteunique, the juxtaposition I was
finding in a lot of this.
But here you are.
You're supposed to be gettinginto longer and longer
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conversations and meeting moreand more people and just keep
going, because those long,in-depth conversations allow you
to actually talk long enoughand deep enough on your subject
to learn more about yourself, tofind your messaging, because
you will eventually have enoughof those conversations that
you'll be like oh yeah, that'smy thing.
I just go back to that everytime.
It's super important for us togo through all of these phases.
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Everybody goes throughdifferent timing.
Everyone goes through and someof them hop over these different
things because you can pay yourway to play in different rooms,
you can be invited because youknew someone, who knew someone.
There are a lot of differentaspects.
Now let's get back to it.
I don't want to get toodistracted.
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The next thing we have is oursix-figure women.
They tend to carry a little bitmore of a fear of success, like
a fear of being seen, a fear ofrapid explosion in their
business, a fear of that fastrise because they don't know if
they can maintain it right, andthen that continues into.
What I notice in ourseven-figure women is oftentimes
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it's more of a fear of failure,basically falling from where
they have gotten or beingforgotten in the process.
Right, there are also some whoare in the seven-figure land,
who are looking to transition toa different part of life, and
so theirs is more of a fear ofthe unknown.
They only know who they aretoday and who they have been to
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become that version ofthemselves, so they fear what's
next because they don't reallyknow what's next, because
sometimes I don't think thesewomen ever thought they'd get to
this point, and so it can bejust a different type of fearful
process, right?
The next thing is six-figurewomen.
I tend to hear them oftentimessaying how intimidated they feel
(13:03):
.
Right, they're beingintimidated walking into a big
room or on a new big stage.
They're just being intimidated.
Meanwhile, our seven-figurewomen are often telling me that
they're being perceived as beingintimidating.
Isn't that interesting, thatunique dynamic?
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And I've experienced both sidesof the fence.
I've been around people that Ihave allowed myself to feel
intimidated by, and I've alsobeen in spaces where people have
told me after the fact thatthey were intimidated by me and
I was like, wait, what youperceived me how?
And it's just very interestingto notice these things.
Now, I was very mindful, andhow I said that is that I chose
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to allow myself to feel, because, again, I want to always
reaffirm with my body and mymind that I am choosing all of
my feelings, how I define myfeelings, the emotions, the
cascades of chemicals thathappen in our brain that I can't
necessarily control, but how Ilabel it and how I react and
respond to it that I can control.
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So I do recognize that Iallowed myself to feel
intimidated, that nobody didthat to me.
Now the next thing that oursix-figure women are finding is
that they are feeling like asmall fish in a big pond, right,
like they're going into thesenewer, bigger rooms, but they're
always feeling like thatimposter syndrome.
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I'll use those words.
So they're just feeling likethe small fish.
On the flip side areseven-figure women.
They feel like the big fish ina small pond.
They're having a hard timefinding rooms that they can go
into, that they're not thebiggest fish in the room and,
yeah, that's probably got tofeel good for an ego stroke when
you're constantly walking inthe room as the big girl in town
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.
But I think that there is alevel at which there is a
constant growth, personal growthneed in this type of person
Like to get to a seven-figurelevel, you have to be hungry,
you have to constantly besomeone who's willing to learn
and grow and innovate and become, and I don't think that just
turns off.
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So I do think that there is anaspect of the seven-figure.
Women will also continue tostay curious and stay hungry,
but they want to go into roomswhere they feel like the small
fish again.
That way they can have someoneelse that they can look up to
talk, to, model off of.
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Because that's part of why wewant to be a small fish in a big
pond.
It's because we want to go andfigure out who the big fish are,
so we can model after them, sowe can build our businesses and
our lives and our habits andvalues and beliefs around what's
worked for them in their lifeand their business.
So the next one I have on hereis that women in the six-figure
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category, they feel like they'renot seen as an authority very
often, like they're the new girlto town, right, like they just
hit six figures or they're justreaching this milestone, and
they just don't necessarily havethat credibility or authority
established yet that they wouldideally hope for.
Then, on the flip side, ourseven-figure ladies, they feel
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like every single room they gointo, they are the highest
authority.
And so here they are, coachingeveryone constantly.
Everyone's always asking themfor input and feedback and how
they can this and that, and it'slike that, I can imagine, gets
very tiring when you're alwayslooking for someone else to get
curious about and feeling likethat's never an option because
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you're always being seen as thehigher power, as the coach, as
the mentor or the.
It's really interesting howsimilar but almost opposite all
of these have been so far.
The next one is that oursix-figure women often feel
alone.
They often feel like there's noone that they can talk to about
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business growth, because insix-figure land, you are usually
obsessed with your business andyou're at a point where you
just want to have a group ofgirlfriends.
You can sit around and talkabout stats with your ads and
how your social medias aregrowing and different ideas
about trends and differentfunnel hacks and all sorts of
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different things.
Right, that's where you are.
Yet our seven-figure womenthey've already been there and
done that.
They're actually at a phasewhere they're beginning to feel
alone because they have no oneto talk to about life, because
everybody wants to talk to themabout business.
They have nobody that will juststop and ask them about how
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they are, how their family isdoing, how they are personally.
When's the last time they hadanyone curious about them, not
what they could do for the otherperson, but genuinely asking
how they are.
It's sad to me that money doesthis to us, because we shouldn't
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feel that way and yet manypeople do.
You know, the next one on thelist isn't true for everybody.
You know, none of these are.
It's just something I'venoticed.
Six figure women tend to getused for being naive because
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they're new to business.
Now, I don't mean six figurewomen that have been there for a
decade plus or whatever.
Like you're doing your thing,girl, like good on you.
In all of these I'm talkingabout the girl who's just
getting to six figure land,right, so she's often being used
for being naive because shejust hasn't been around the
block enough times in businessto really know, and so people
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will take advantage of her.
She'll, you know, pay forcertain things in business that
she really shouldn't have to payfor or shouldn't be paying for,
but she doesn't know any better.
Right, versus on the flip side,are seven-figure ladies.
They're used for their skills,they're used for what they can
do, what they can provide, whatthey bring to the table.
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Now, after that, the next noteis that six-figure land.
They want to sell you somethingto grow, like everything around
you.
Once they know you're asix-figure earner, they're like
oh, you want to grow, monetizeyour audience on Instagram, on
Facebook, on Twitter, linkedin,whatever platform you want.
Oh, do you want to make youremail list this and that, like
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everyone around every cornerseems to want to sell you
something to help you grow yourbusiness, because they know that
six-figure land is great, butthat's not where people want to
be.
Grow your business because theyknow that six-figure land is
great, but that's not wherepeople want to be, that's not
where they stop.
People tend to want to get toseven figures, tend to want to
get to more followers.
They tend to want to continueto see that growth so that you
feel like you're being soldsomething around every corner.
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Yet in seven-figure land, theywant to leverage your network.
Everyone around you is tryingto use you to get to someone or
something else.
They're trying to leapfrog youor use you as something to just
get there right.
Then you have the six-figurewomen.
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Everyone is selling to youbased on your fear.
They're selling to your pain.
They're selling to thoseaspects of you that are insecure
, yet seven figures there tendto sell to your ego.
They know that you have certaininsecurities, so they go to
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your other insecurities.
They go to your otherinsecurities.
They continue to sell to you ina way that is trying to boost
your status, trying to boost howyou look in this world, your
image, right.
All of these things are totallydifferent.
Now, whether that's what you buyon or not, I don't know, it's
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my understanding that whenyou're in six-figure land, you
tend to buy more on pain andpleasure.
Seven-figure people buy more onpurpose.
Then we have six-figure landyou are eager and dying for
attention, whether that's onsocial media or getting on
someone's podcast, or getting anews outlet or an article or
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whatever.
You are dying for attention toyour business and your brand.
Then seven-figure land you'reusually getting to where you're
a bit overwhelmed by the amountof attention that you're getting
and the amount of requests andinquiries that you're getting
for these different things.
It's like the six-figure land.
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We've got limited opportunities.
They have to pick and choose.
Right, the limited things arecoming in the door.
Seven-figure land you maybehave abundance of opportunities,
right?
So many coming in, so much sothat in six-figure land you
struggle to say no to thingsbecause you don't have very many
things to choose from.
So you just keep saying yes andso you struggle to say no and
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you don't really know when theright time to say it is.
Versus seven-figure women,they're struggling to say yes
because they have grown that nomuscle, they have learned and
they're very quick with theirno's.
You know, I heard a woman oncesay I always say no to
everything.
I'm asked the first time.
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Then if someone comes back andasks me a second time, that's
when I will stop and reconsider,and then either it's a yes or
it's a no again.
And I thought unique.
I said why is that?
She said because not everythingis for me right off the bat and
if someone is diligent enoughto continue to follow up, then
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I'll give it a secondconsideration.
I thought that was very uniquebecause I've been in the realm
of struggling to say no and Ican see how the other side of
the fence, struggling to say yes, could be something that, just
like you, could get stuck in.
People pleaser land strugglingto say yes could be something
that, just like you, could getstuck in people pleaser land
struggling to say no.
I think that you could also getstuck in the land of never
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saying yes and then end up justbecoming a hermit and, like you
know, only ever coming out forbusiness things and having zero
personal life.
I could see how that that wouldreally be a problem you would
face.
The last thing that I havelisted because this list,
honestly, could go on and on,and on, and on and on, so I just
stopped it here was that oursix-figure women you're on all
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the time.
You literally feel like youcannot turn yourself off because
then everything will crumble.
You're just, you're always on.
Yet our seven-figure women,they're either 100% on or
they're 100% off.
They might not turn that off,switch off very often from who
I've talked to and the womenthat I've had conversations with
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, but they do.
When they turn off, they're100% off, it's not half off, not
like still checking the phone,like it's off off.
And so I just think these areextremely interesting things to
consider, and I am in a spacewhere I have to consider these
things because our retreat inFebruary went so well, like,
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obviously, if you've listened tothe last few episodes, you've
heard stories, you've heard mybreakdown of what happened,
you've heard about the big hairchop that I did to donate to
cancer.
Like there's so much amazingstuff that happened at this
retreat.
And the one thing I keepgetting asked over and over and
over, when is the next one?
And I'm like, oh my gosh, weare planning I promise you, we
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are working on getting anotherone going.
In fact, I'll go ahead and sayit now, because I do believe
that I'm finally in a world thatI can say this confidently
enough that we are looking atour next retreat dates being in
May May 16th through the 20th inFlorida.
We are looking at being in FortPierce, florida.
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It is a 9,000 square footmansion on the beach.
It is beautiful.
It has a private pool on oneside of the house and the beach
access.
On the other side of the housethere is a small in-home gym.
There is a yoga studio, thereis like 10 bedrooms, so plenty
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of space for everyone to be.
So many different areas of thehouse that are beautiful spaces
to create content and to justenjoy beautiful big kitchens to
be able to come and eat togetherand have some wonderful private
chefs come out and cookdelicious, nutritiously fueled
meals for us.
I have plans to have massagetherapists come out on property
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and, one of the days, give 60minute massages to every
attendee.
We've got so much planned.
I cannot wait, and part of whatI have to think about is how do
I continue to move forwardstructuring these events, that
the attendees get exactly whatthey need out of this and that
they can be built the best.
And so, obviously, we just hada whole episode on the
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differences in the space andplace and the mindsets that
six-figure and seven-figurewomen are in.
I think you can see where I'mgoing is that my brain is
starting to realize that I'mgoing to have to create
different retreats for each ofthese levels, because different
level, different devil meaningthe problems at six-figure land
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is very different than theproblems at seven-figure land,
than the problems at SevenFigure Land, and I think I
covered that pretty well overthe last 25 minutes here, and so
I'm not going to continue tostress that.
I think you guys get it now.
And so creating differentretreats where they're the exact
same curriculum, the exact sameprocess everything else is
going to be same same.
It's just the different focuson different problems, right?
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It's avoiding having those twowomen from the very beginning
who were sitting on the samecouch with different problems
next to each other.
It's about avoiding thatconflict, and that I don't even
know what that would be, becauseI don't see it being a conflict
, I just seeing it being adifficulty that we can avoid.
Right?
I want to be able to create asafe and vulnerable space that
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everybody can feel heard, feelvalidated and feel connected
with those people around them.
And I know that maintaining theintegrity of the space by
making sure that people are inthe same space in their business
, in their life, in theirstruggles.
Maybe that looks like makingretreats built around just being
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a mom in business, because Iknow that that in itself is very
difficult, and while I'm not amom, I do have two amazing moms
on my team that are more thanhappy to share some stories from
their mom journeys, and I do myvery best to listen to and
really take in what I hear fromall of the moms around me so
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that I can make sure that myevents cater to that.
And maybe there's an event forchildless entrepreneurs or one
for influencers or one for youknow, I could go down this
rabbit hole all day long, so I'mjust trying to figure out
what's going to be the best foryou guys.
Right, here's how retreats, thisretreat system that we've built
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basically works.
Overview is that the first dayyou show up, you reconnect
Reconnect with yourself andeveryone else that's there.
We play a bunch of games, getyou in a playful state of mind,
start doing some team buildingstuff so that you can really get
connected to all the otherattendees and build those bonds.
Day two we do all of ourrelease work.
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That is where we do mental andemotional release and we allow
ourselves to let go of all ofthose limiting beliefs and
baggage that's holding us back.
Day three is a recharge daywhere you will have a small few
sessions in the early morningand then we will have the rest
of the day.
You can do whatever you wouldlike.
The only things you would haveto be aware of during that day
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is that that's the day thatwe're going to have the massage
therapists come in, and soyou'll be given a time that
you're going to have to arrivefor your massage if you'd like
it.
We also are offering someadditional coaching that certain
coaching packages can access.
In the retreat hours, whichwould be on day three, you would
just get a side.
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I'd pull you privately into myroom and you and would have a 60
minute one-on-one coaching andthen our day four is where you
get to rewrite.
That's where you're getting torewrite your future story and
that new version of yourselfthat you are stepping into.
Now that you've been able torelease all this old baggage and
process and let go of it.
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Now we're going to build thatnew story that you're going to
take home and take with you.
And so these events are trulytransformative.
I can confidently say that wejust finished the last one, not
even a month ago.
We're only still three weeksago.
Wow, it feels like so long ago,and I can tell you that I
continue to have women from thatretreat reach out to me over
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and over and over telling methat this changed their life,
telling me that it was a brainchemistry changing trip, that
they know that they will neverbe the same after this, and that
, to me, makes me so freakingproud, because our intention as
a team going in was to createand maintain a safe space so
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that we could facilitate radicaltransformation, and I think we
successfully did that.
So now we are looking to do itagain in May, and we currently
have seven spots.
We have four VIP spots whichallow you to have that onsite
coaching as well as three monthsof follow-up coaching and some
other gifts and goodies.
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You also get priority in someof the different things
activity-wise that we're doing,like you get to pick when you
want your massage, things ofthat nature.
That ticket price I'm going tobe very transparent, I'm not
looking to hide numbers oranything like that here that
ticket price is $5,555 and Ithink it's a freaking steal.
It is the best and easiest wayto get my coaching.
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Because here's a fun littlefact for you the retreats are
basically a breakthrough sessionacross four days.
It's basically what we do in abreakthrough session, just
spread out across four days andwith a group of women.
So $5,555 is a steal,considering my breakthrough
sessions are $12,000 for abreakthrough session and six
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months of coaching.
So you're getting a four-dayexperience and three months of
coaching with me for not evenhalf of that.
So I think these prices areonly temporary.
These prices are only as webuild.
These prices are going to go up.
They will probably double inthe next year or two.
So I would just say try and getin as soon as you can, because
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as we continue to grow and getbetter and incorporate more
aspects of luxury to these tripsand find nicer, nicer
properties.
These prices are not going tomaintain themselves.
The next one that I have is justour standard admission.
We have three standardadmission tickets.
This is basically just gettingyou in the door.
You're still going to get themassage.
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That is a part of it.
You're still going to get thechef dinners.
You're still going to get therelease session.
You just won't get theone-on-one coaching.
So instead you just take theday out by the pool or the beach
, wait for your massage and havechit chat, conversation with
friends.
Now you can always ask mequestions during the retreat.
You just won't get a 60 minuteone-on-one private coaching
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session.
That's the difference.
I'm happy to have conversationout and about publicly in the
room with the group, all thethings, but if you want that
private, one-on-one attention, Ihighly recommend upgrading and
getting one of the VIP tickets.
So that's only seven tickets,it's only seven spots.
For this trip and for thestandard admission that is less
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than $1,000 a night, excuse me.
Less than $1,000 a night isgetting you admission.
It's getting you fed for fourdays.
It's getting you accommodationsfour days.
It's getting you accommodations, luxury accommodations for four
nights.
It's getting you a 60-minutemassage.
It's like gift bags andworkbooks and all of the fun
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things that I'm not going totell you about, because I want
to surprise you when I knowyou're going to go and you're
going to have that life changingmoment Less than $1,000.
This is the one place that youcan invest into your business
and see immediate results.
I can tell you that.
I'll tell you this and ifyou've already heard this, you
can go ahead and just end thispodcast here.
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But thank you so much for beingthis far in.
And I want to tell you anotherstory, story of a client who was
just at our last retreat, sonot even three weeks ago.
She was at this retreat and Iremember her bawling her eyes
out.
She has actually been coachingwith me for about six months now
and came into coaching with aproperty that she owns and that
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she had bought with herex-husband that she really,
really, really desperatelywanted to sell.
So for six months we have beenattempting to sell this property
and she has had like noshowings at all, literally had
like maybe one or two, likenothing, dry as a bone.
The market must have just beendoing its thing.
So here she is, so stressed out, comes into the retreat and
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starts talking about theproperty with people and I'm
like, oh, that darn property.
Just like I know that themoment she lets go it's going to
sell, because I know energy iseverything.
So here we are.
It's finally coming to releaseday, day two, and she finally
decides to fully let go, let goof the control, let go of the
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need to have it go her way, letgo of the expectation, let go of
everything and just trustSurrender.
So she let go, and later onthat night, and then the next
day, and then again the next day, I kept hearing Jaina, I have
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another house tour booked.
Jaina, I have another housetour booked.
Oh my gosh, yet another housetour booked.
And here we are and fastforward a week.
So she just leaves the retreatand a week later I hear my house
is under contract, there aresome things we've got to make
sure go through first.
And Jaina, my house is undercontract.
There are some things we've gotto make sure go through first.
And Jaina, my house is undercontract.
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And I said let's not get tooexcited yet.
And then just yesterday I gotthe text Jaina, I sold my house.
How freaking cool, is that?
How freaking cool is that towant something so desperately
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and finally get to a point towhere you realize the only way
to get where you want to go isto surrender.
And the moment you let go,everything that's meant for you
will attract right to you likeyou're a freaking magnet.
But it can't when we're holdingon to all the things we think
are meant for us.
You have to let all of that goand just be, and part of being
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able to let all of that go andjust be is to give yourself the
space to do so, the time to beintentional about it.
And that is exactly what theseretreats are.
This is you time.
This is an opportunity for youto be self-full, not selfish
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Self-full.
Show up for you.
Mark off those five daysbecause you're going to need a
travel day.
Mark off those five days offyour calendar.
Organize your business in a waythat you have zero calls and
someone else is handling it all,so that you can show up, no
laptop phone on silent and youjust call your kids when family
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hour comes up, because I do havetimes for you guys to call your
kids written into my agenda,because I know that's important
and I want to make sure that youget that, but otherwise I want
you to put your phone down andbe present, and every single
woman did that at my lastretreat and every single one of
them said it was the mostprofound thing, because they're
so used to being sucked intothat cycle of doom scrolling,
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they're so used to being suckedin the cycle of emails, they're
so used to having those patternsrun, and it all starts with a
device.
So when you put your phone downright One of them, admit to me I
kept my Apple watch on.
I was like I get it, it's fine,she's like.
All I did was just look at thenotifications as they came in
just to see if there wasanything urgent, and I said
that's fine, you are stillbuilding self-trust.
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Maybe next retreat you'll takethe watch off too.
Because here's the thing it'snot about the tech, it's about
the pattern.
I'm here to help you break thepatterns.
Four days away from home breakspatterns.
Four days away from yourbusiness breaks patterns.
And if we change our patterns,we change our results, and then,
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naturally, your businesses boomand your problems.
Well, new level, new devil.
So I really hope that youenjoyed this, and if not you,
then who would benefit from aretreat like this?
If you know someone, or if youjust want to check out a little
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bit more about it, go tojanaswancom forward slash
retreats.
That's with an S plural,because we're running more than
one.
So go ahead, check that out,learn a little bit more, read
about it and, if you'reinterested, join the waiting
list.
We'd love to have you on it sowe can keep you informed, keep
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you in the loop and get you toone of our next Her Women's
Empowerment Treats.
Did you know that four out of every 10 businesses
is woman-owned?
Let's talk about some of thedifferences between the 12% of
those women-owned businessesthat make it to six figures a
year and the 1.9% of women-ownedbusinesses that make it to
seven figures each year, becauseI have been speaking to more
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and more of both of these groupsof women and I'm noticing that
there are some differences.
I'm noticing that they'realmost living completely
opposite lives in some ways, andI just thought that I wanted to
open up a casual conversation.
I literally just sat here andjotted down each of the things
that came to mind throughconversations, through
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interactions, through readingthings online, each of the
things that came to mind throughconversations, through
interactions, through readingthings online, all of the
different things that I haveinput into this.
And this is what I've come upwith, because here's the deal
I'm running women's retreats andone of the most impactful parts
of it, one of the most criticalparts of it, is making sure
that I have the right women inthe room with each other,
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because think about this what ifyou had two women sitting on
the couch right next to eachother opening up about their
problems, and the first womanopens up and pours her heart out
and is just crying about howshe's only just making enough in
her business to be able to payher bills, just making enough in
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her business to be able toreinvest a little bit back into
herself like retreats, like this, to be able to pour into
herself, but not enough yet todo all the things that she
really wants to do with her kidsand with her family.
And then we get to the nextwoman sitting right next to her,
having just heard her say myproblem is that I'm making too
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much money in my business andthat I'm paying too much in
taxes and I need to figure outhow to spend more money in my
business, which is a legitimateproblem that women at that level
make, because when you start tocrawl up in your earnings that
women at that level make,because when you start to crawl
up in your earnings, the amountof percentage that we are paying
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out into taxes becomesastronomical when you finally
get to those higher numbers.
So I can understand how that isan actual problem for women who
are entering into the land ofmaking seven figures.
Can you see how it would bevery difficult to hold the space
for both of those women andgive actual, usable advice in
that moment, without having oneor the other roll their eyes and
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look at the opposite personlike their problem wasn't valid,
valid.
Working as hard as we do aswomen in business to be able to
build our brands up to a pointto making six figures is
something that we should be so,so incredibly proud of.
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That is superseding what mostpeople bring in in their careers
.
So taking a moment to realizethat is awesome and it is still
hard.
And it's even more devastatingwhen you think you're going to
get to that point and be able tolive a specific lifestyle and
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the only to realize it took waymore investing back into your
business than you originallyimagined.
So you're actually not quite inthat place of complete
financial freedom that youthought six figures was going to
bring.
And yes, as you continue toclimb up in six figures on your
journey to seven figures, youwill find more and more comfort.
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And if you're like any of theother people that I know who
have a scarcity mindset aroundmoney, that does not leave you.
When the bank accounts getbigger.
In fact, the scarcity mindsetgets bigger because you feel
like you have more to lose.
So let's get into some of thedifferences that I truly believe
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.
This is not factual by any means.
This is simply anecdotal.
This is pulled from stories, mylife, my opinion, 100%.
I take all responsibility fortoday's podcast episode and this
is just something I notice andit doesn't mean it's right or
wrong.
And if you have a differentexperience or different
knowledge and wisdom to give me,please reach out.
Please connect with me onsocial media, meet with me on
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Instagram and let me know.
At Jaina, that's J-A-Y-N.
As in Nancy, a dot swan likethe bird, jaynaswan.
Meet me on Instagram.
Let's chat in the DMs.
I'd love to hear your storiesBased on the knowledge that I
have up until this point.
Here's what I got.
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So the six figure side of theequation typically is still in
that land of I'm just makingenough.
It's not necessarily in the Idon't have enough, but it is
still in the I'm just makingenough.
I can pay my bills, I'm good,but I'm not really good good
enough that I can just do thethings I want.
On the flip side, theseven-figure group, they're
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usually what I'm hearing is mytaxes are too high.
I need to figure out.
I'm making so much money nowthat, yes, what I'm hearing is
my taxes are too high.
I need to figure out.
I'm making so much money nowthat, yes, I'm very good and,
yes, I am financially free, andI need to figure out ways for my
business to have more expenses,because they're running really
lean businesses.
Which is ideal in this world islimiting.
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The amount of exposure that wehave to expenses is huge in
business.
The leaner that you can run,the better.
That's just why digitalbusiness is my favorite thing in
the world, because there is nolandlord to pay every month and
I you know, other than thecouple hundred dollars I pay to
maintain the website.
I mean, that's about it, and soI really think that there is
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something to that.
Now, if you get to that point,you are now starting to make a
million dollars in this reallylean internet digital business.
You might find yourself in asimilar position and I might
have a solution towards the endfor you if that is something
that you're struggling with, sostay with me.
The next one is that typically,people on the six-figure side of
the fence are still working intheir zone of genius, and what
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this means.
If you have not read the book,it's natural skill, so it's what
you're born with.
They basically figured tosomething that they were really
good at or had a knack for orwere very curious about and
learned a bit, and they're stillbuilding to that point in their
business, basically on skill,on their personality, on who
they are and what they've becomeup until this point.
On the flip side of the fence,our seven-figure business owners
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have grown and scaled theirbusiness to a point to where
they have a team, and this teamhandles a lot of the different
tasks and functions within thebusiness, which allows them to
be able to function from theirzone of excellence and zone of
excellence is something that isestablished over time or a skill
that's built, and that skill inthis case would be running your
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business or maintaining thebrand.
Maybe that's the skill, butthey're not necessarily doing
the inner workings of thebusiness.
So we have someone who's usingstill their natural skills and
talents to build the brand andsomeone else who is allowing
other people's natural skillsand talents to do that, and they
then work on the business sideof things as an actual CEO of
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the business.
The next thing that I notice isthat on the six-figure side of
things, they tend to focus andtalk more about strategy,
strategy, about how do I goviral, what's the best strategy
for a landing page.
It's always like strategy,strategy, strategy.
How do I get an edge?
How do I grow a little bitfaster?
How do I get people's attention?
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It's all about strategy.
Yet when I have conversationson the other side of the fence
with our seven figure women,they're only ever talking about
systems, systems and structuresthat they can then pull people
through and have them walk ajourney and have them on a
client's journey.
So those seven-figure people,those seven-figure women who are
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earning at that point, they areallowing themselves to take a
step back.
They're not looking at theindividual post strategy.
They are looking at the biggerpicture, the bigger machine as a
whole, the business.
They're making sure that all ofthe systems and structures are
in place so that client has asmooth and seamless client
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journey from beginning to end.
Two very different focuses.
The next thing that I notice isthat when you start to get to
the six-figure land, everyone isyour friend.
You are meeting more people andyou're like oh, just, oh, yeah,
hey, girlfriend, hey girlfriend.
Everyone is your best friend.
Yet when I talk to people whoare in seven-figure land, that
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isn't the case Now.
Everyone around you is yourclient.
I mean you do go out to eventsand you're out at dinners and
you're out at fundraisers andyou're out at all of these
different things.
You're meeting people butthey're more or less looked at
and treated as clients andclient relationships and it's
very much business networking.
It doesn't feel like friendshipanymore and so there's just a
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different level of energy inthat relationship and I hear
that that's a struggle.
When you turn around, you lookaround and everyone around you
is a client or someone you havea client style relationship with
.
So you have a lot of difficultyin building those friendships.
Now, part of that comes from if, if we flip back to the
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six-figure side of the fence,they are at a point where
they're finally able to get intobigger and bigger rooms.
Maybe they are going to biggernetworking events, maybe they're
speaking on summit stages,online or in person, maybe
they're doing different things,but what's happening is they're
finally getting income in theirbusiness that they can reinvest,
so they're getting into some ofthose bigger conferences or
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they're going to seminars orthey're getting more
certifications, which puts youin bigger rooms with bigger
people.
Right On the flip side,seven-figure women are now
getting into smaller and smallerrooms, more exclusive rooms,
smaller and smaller places.
It's not something that'saccessible by everyone.
It's definitely something theyhave to invite only they have to
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earn their way into.
There's also different types ofconversations.
Having Our six-figure women.
They're having longerconversations.
They want to talk more abouteverything.
They just want to keep goingand going.
Yet our seven-fig figure womenthey're very intentional with
their conversations.
They only have meaningfulconversations.
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If it's not leading towardsbuilding their brain, their body
or their business, they areleaving the conversation.
I mean it's meaningful thingsfor them, which I think comes
with prioritizing your time moreand valuing your time more.
They want to make sure they'renot just talking into the wind
or talking to anyone andeveryone.
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They're just being veryintentional where they're
putting their energy versusthose six-figure women.
There's nothing wrong with this.
It is just where you are in theprocess.
I actually think it's quiteunique, the juxtaposition I was
finding in a lot of this.
Actually think it's quiteunique, the juxtaposition I was
finding in a lot of this.
But here you are.
You're supposed to be gettinginto longer and longer
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conversations and meeting moreand more people and just keep
going, because those long,in-depth conversations allow you
to actually talk long enoughand deep enough on your subject
to learn more about yourself, tofind your messaging, because
you will eventually have enoughof those conversations that
you'll be like oh yeah, that'smy thing.
I just go back to that everytime.
It's super important for us togo through all of these phases.
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Everybody goes throughdifferent timing.
Everyone goes through and someof them hop over these different
things because you can pay yourway to play in different rooms,
you can be invited because youknew someone, who knew someone.
There are a lot of differentaspects.
Now let's get back to it.
I don't want to get toodistracted.
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The next thing we have is oursix-figure women.
They tend to carry a little bitmore of a fear of success, like
a fear of being seen, a fear ofrapid explosion in their
business, a fear of that fastrise because they don't know if
they can maintain it right, andthen that continues into.
What I notice in ourseven-figure women is oftentimes
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it's more of a fear of failure,basically falling from where
they have gotten or beingforgotten in the process.
Right, there are also some whoare in the seven-figure land,
who are looking to transition toa different part of life, and
so theirs is more of a fear ofthe unknown.
They only know who they aretoday and who they have been to
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become that version ofthemselves, so they fear what's
next because they don't reallyknow what's next, because
sometimes I don't think thesewomen ever thought they'd get to
this point, and so it can bejust a different type of fearful
process, right?
The next thing is six-figurewomen.
I tend to hear them oftentimessaying how intimidated they feel
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.
Right, they're beingintimidated walking into a big
room or on a new big stage.
They're just being intimidated.
Meanwhile, our seven-figurewomen are often telling me that
they're being perceived as beingintimidating.
Isn't that interesting, thatunique dynamic?
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And I've experienced both sidesof the fence.
I've been around people that Ihave allowed myself to feel
intimidated by, and I've alsobeen in spaces where people have
told me after the fact thatthey were intimidated by me and
I was like, wait, what youperceived me how?
And it's just very interestingto notice these things.
Now, I was very mindful, andhow I said that is that I chose
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to allow myself to feel, because, again, I want to always
reaffirm with my body and mymind that I am choosing all of
my feelings, how I define myfeelings, the emotions, the
cascades of chemicals thathappen in our brain that I can't
necessarily control, but how Ilabel it and how I react and
respond to it that I can control.
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So I do recognize that Iallowed myself to feel
intimidated, that nobody didthat to me.
Now the next thing that oursix-figure women are finding is
that they are feeling like asmall fish in a big pond, right,
like they're going into thesenewer, bigger rooms, but they're
always feeling like thatimposter syndrome.
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I'll use those words.
So they're just feeling likethe small fish.
On the flip side areseven-figure women.
They feel like the big fish ina small pond.
They're having a hard timefinding rooms that they can go
into, that they're not thebiggest fish in the room and,
yeah, that's probably got tofeel good for an ego stroke when
you're constantly walking inthe room as the big girl in town
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.
But I think that there is alevel at which there is a
constant growth, personal growthneed in this type of person
Like to get to a seven-figurelevel, you have to be hungry,
you have to constantly besomeone who's willing to learn
and grow and innovate and become, and I don't think that just
turns off.
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So I do think that there is anaspect of the seven-figure.
Women will also continue tostay curious and stay hungry,
but they want to go into roomswhere they feel like the small
fish again.
That way they can have someoneelse that they can look up to
talk, to, model off of.
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Because that's part of why wewant to be a small fish in a big
pond.
It's because we want to go andfigure out who the big fish are,
so we can model after them, sowe can build our businesses and
our lives and our habits andvalues and beliefs around what's
worked for them in their lifeand their business.
So the next one I have on hereis that women in the six-figure
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category, they feel like they'renot seen as an authority very
often, like they're the new girlto town, right, like they just
hit six figures or they're justreaching this milestone, and
they just don't necessarily havethat credibility or authority
established yet that they wouldideally hope for.
Then, on the flip side, ourseven-figure ladies, they feel
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like every single room they gointo, they are the highest
authority.
And so here they are, coachingeveryone constantly.
Everyone's always asking themfor input and feedback and how
they can this and that, and it'slike that, I can imagine, gets
very tiring when you're alwayslooking for someone else to get
curious about and feeling likethat's never an option because
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you're always being seen as thehigher power, as the coach, as
the mentor or the.
It's really interesting howsimilar but almost opposite all
of these have been so far.
The next one is that oursix-figure women often feel
alone.
They often feel like there's noone that they can talk to about
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business growth, because insix-figure land, you are usually
obsessed with your business andyou're at a point where you
just want to have a group ofgirlfriends.
You can sit around and talkabout stats with your ads and
how your social medias aregrowing and different ideas
about trends and differentfunnel hacks and all sorts of
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different things.
Right, that's where you are.
Yet our seven-figure womenthey've already been there and
done that.
They're actually at a phasewhere they're beginning to feel
alone because they have no oneto talk to about life, because
everybody wants to talk to themabout business.
They have nobody that will juststop and ask them about how
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they are, how their family isdoing, how they are personally.
When's the last time they hadanyone curious about them, not
what they could do for the otherperson, but genuinely asking
how they are.
It's sad to me that money doesthis to us, because we shouldn't
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feel that way and yet manypeople do.
You know, the next one on thelist isn't true for everybody.
You know, none of these are.
It's just something I'venoticed.
Six figure women tend to getused for being naive because
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they're new to business.
Now, I don't mean six figurewomen that have been there for a
decade plus or whatever.
Like you're doing your thing,girl, like good on you.
In all of these I'm talkingabout the girl who's just
getting to six figure land,right, so she's often being used
for being naive because shejust hasn't been around the
block enough times in businessto really know, and so people
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will take advantage of her.
She'll, you know, pay forcertain things in business that
she really shouldn't have to payfor or shouldn't be paying for,
but she doesn't know any better.
Right, versus on the flip side,are seven-figure ladies.
They're used for their skills,they're used for what they can
do, what they can provide, whatthey bring to the table.
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Now, after that, the next noteis that six-figure land.
They want to sell you somethingto grow, like everything around
you.
Once they know you're asix-figure earner, they're like
oh, you want to grow, monetizeyour audience on Instagram, on
Facebook, on Twitter, linkedin,whatever platform you want.
Oh, do you want to make youremail list this and that, like
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everyone around every cornerseems to want to sell you
something to help you grow yourbusiness, because they know that
six-figure land is great, butthat's not where people want to
be.
Grow your business because theyknow that six-figure land is
great, but that's not wherepeople want to be, that's not
where they stop.
People tend to want to get toseven figures, tend to want to
get to more followers.
They tend to want to continueto see that growth so that you
feel like you're being soldsomething around every corner.
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Yet in seven-figure land, theywant to leverage your network.
Everyone around you is tryingto use you to get to someone or
something else.
They're trying to leapfrog youor use you as something to just
get there right.
Then you have the six-figurewomen.
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Everyone is selling to youbased on your fear.
They're selling to your pain.
They're selling to thoseaspects of you that are insecure
, yet seven figures there tendto sell to your ego.
They know that you have certaininsecurities, so they go to
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your other insecurities.
They go to your otherinsecurities.
They continue to sell to you ina way that is trying to boost
your status, trying to boost howyou look in this world, your
image, right.
All of these things are totallydifferent.
Now, whether that's what you buyon or not, I don't know, it's
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my understanding that whenyou're in six-figure land, you
tend to buy more on pain andpleasure.
Seven-figure people buy more onpurpose.
Then we have six-figure landyou are eager and dying for
attention, whether that's onsocial media or getting on
someone's podcast, or getting anews outlet or an article or
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whatever.
You are dying for attention toyour business and your brand.
Then seven-figure land you'reusually getting to where you're
a bit overwhelmed by the amountof attention that you're getting
and the amount of requests andinquiries that you're getting
for these different things.
It's like the six-figure land.
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We've got limited opportunities.
They have to pick and choose.
Right, the limited things arecoming in the door.
Seven-figure land you maybehave abundance of opportunities,
right?
So many coming in, so much sothat in six-figure land you
struggle to say no to thingsbecause you don't have very many
things to choose from.
So you just keep saying yes andso you struggle to say no and
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you don't really know when theright time to say it is.
Versus seven-figure women,they're struggling to say yes
because they have grown that nomuscle, they have learned and
they're very quick with theirno's.
You know, I heard a woman oncesay I always say no to
everything.
I'm asked the first time.
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Then if someone comes back andasks me a second time, that's
when I will stop and reconsider,and then either it's a yes or
it's a no again.
And I thought unique.
I said why is that?
She said because not everythingis for me right off the bat and
if someone is diligent enoughto continue to follow up, then
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I'll give it a secondconsideration.
I thought that was very uniquebecause I've been in the realm
of struggling to say no and Ican see how the other side of
the fence, struggling to say yes, could be something that, just
like you, could get stuck in.
People pleaser land strugglingto say yes could be something
that, just like you, could getstuck in people pleaser land
struggling to say no.
I think that you could also getstuck in the land of never
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saying yes and then end up justbecoming a hermit and, like you
know, only ever coming out forbusiness things and having zero
personal life.
I could see how that that wouldreally be a problem you would
face.
The last thing that I havelisted because this list,
honestly, could go on and on,and on, and on and on, so I just
stopped it here was that oursix-figure women you're on all
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the time.
You literally feel like youcannot turn yourself off because
then everything will crumble.
You're just, you're always on.
Yet our seven-figure women,they're either 100% on or
they're 100% off.
They might not turn that off,switch off very often from who
I've talked to and the womenthat I've had conversations with
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, but they do.
When they turn off, they're100% off, it's not half off, not
like still checking the phone,like it's off off.
And so I just think these areextremely interesting things to
consider, and I am in a spacewhere I have to consider these
things because our retreat inFebruary went so well, like,
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obviously, if you've listened tothe last few episodes, you've
heard stories, you've heard mybreakdown of what happened,
you've heard about the big hairchop that I did to donate to
cancer.
Like there's so much amazingstuff that happened at this
retreat.
And the one thing I keepgetting asked over and over and
over, when is the next one?
And I'm like, oh my gosh, weare planning I promise you, we
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are working on getting anotherone going.
In fact, I'll go ahead and sayit now, because I do believe
that I'm finally in a world thatI can say this confidently
enough that we are looking atour next retreat dates being in
May May 16th through the 20th inFlorida.
We are looking at being in FortPierce, florida.
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It is a 9,000 square footmansion on the beach.
It is beautiful.
It has a private pool on oneside of the house and the beach
access.
On the other side of the housethere is a small in-home gym.
There is a yoga studio, thereis like 10 bedrooms, so plenty
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of space for everyone to be.
So many different areas of thehouse that are beautiful spaces
to create content and to justenjoy beautiful big kitchens to
be able to come and eat togetherand have some wonderful private
chefs come out and cookdelicious, nutritiously fueled
meals for us.
I have plans to have massagetherapists come out on property
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and, one of the days, give 60minute massages to every
attendee.
We've got so much planned.
I cannot wait, and part of whatI have to think about is how do
I continue to move forwardstructuring these events, that
the attendees get exactly whatthey need out of this and that
they can be built the best.
And so, obviously, we just hada whole episode on the
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differences in the space andplace and the mindsets that
six-figure and seven-figurewomen are in.
I think you can see where I'mgoing is that my brain is
starting to realize that I'mgoing to have to create
different retreats for each ofthese levels, because different
level, different devil meaningthe problems at six-figure land
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is very different than theproblems at seven-figure land,
than the problems at SevenFigure Land, and I think I
covered that pretty well overthe last 25 minutes here, and so
I'm not going to continue tostress that.
I think you guys get it now.
And so creating differentretreats where they're the exact
same curriculum, the exact sameprocess everything else is
going to be same same.
It's just the different focuson different problems, right?
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It's avoiding having those twowomen from the very beginning
who were sitting on the samecouch with different problems
next to each other.
It's about avoiding thatconflict, and that I don't even
know what that would be, becauseI don't see it being a conflict
, I just seeing it being adifficulty that we can avoid.
Right?
I want to be able to create asafe and vulnerable space that
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everybody can feel heard, feelvalidated and feel connected
with those people around them.
And I know that maintaining theintegrity of the space by
making sure that people are inthe same space in their business
, in their life, in theirstruggles.
Maybe that looks like makingretreats built around just being
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a mom in business, because Iknow that that in itself is very
difficult, and while I'm not amom, I do have two amazing moms
on my team that are more thanhappy to share some stories from
their mom journeys, and I do myvery best to listen to and
really take in what I hear fromall of the moms around me so
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that I can make sure that myevents cater to that.
And maybe there's an event forchildless entrepreneurs or one
for influencers or one for youknow, I could go down this
rabbit hole all day long, so I'mjust trying to figure out
what's going to be the best foryou guys.
Right, here's how retreats, thisretreat system that we've built
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basically works.
Overview is that the first dayyou show up, you reconnect
Reconnect with yourself andeveryone else that's there.
We play a bunch of games, getyou in a playful state of mind,
start doing some team buildingstuff so that you can really get
connected to all the otherattendees and build those bonds.
Day two we do all of ourrelease work.
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That is where we do mental andemotional release and we allow
ourselves to let go of all ofthose limiting beliefs and
baggage that's holding us back.
Day three is a recharge daywhere you will have a small few
sessions in the early morningand then we will have the rest
of the day.
You can do whatever you wouldlike.
The only things you would haveto be aware of during that day
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is that that's the day thatwe're going to have the massage
therapists come in, and soyou'll be given a time that
you're going to have to arrivefor your massage if you'd like
it.
We also are offering someadditional coaching that certain
coaching packages can access.
In the retreat hours, whichwould be on day three, you would
just get a side.
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I'd pull you privately into myroom and you and would have a 60
minute one-on-one coaching andthen our day four is where you
get to rewrite.
That's where you're getting torewrite your future story and
that new version of yourselfthat you are stepping into.
Now that you've been able torelease all this old baggage and
process and let go of it.
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Now we're going to build thatnew story that you're going to
take home and take with you.
And so these events are trulytransformative.
I can confidently say that wejust finished the last one, not
even a month ago.
We're only still three weeksago.
Wow, it feels like so long ago,and I can tell you that I
continue to have women from thatretreat reach out to me over
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and over and over telling methat this changed their life,
telling me that it was a brainchemistry changing trip, that
they know that they will neverbe the same after this, and that
, to me, makes me so freakingproud, because our intention as
a team going in was to createand maintain a safe space so
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that we could facilitate radicaltransformation, and I think we
successfully did that.
So now we are looking to do itagain in May, and we currently
have seven spots.
We have four VIP spots whichallow you to have that onsite
coaching as well as three monthsof follow-up coaching and some
other gifts and goodies.
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You also get priority in someof the different things
activity-wise that we're doing,like you get to pick when you
want your massage, things ofthat nature.
That ticket price I'm going tobe very transparent, I'm not
looking to hide numbers oranything like that here that
ticket price is $5,555 and Ithink it's a freaking steal.
It is the best and easiest wayto get my coaching.
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Because here's a fun littlefact for you the retreats are
basically a breakthrough sessionacross four days.
It's basically what we do in abreakthrough session, just
spread out across four days andwith a group of women.
So $5,555 is a steal,considering my breakthrough
sessions are $12,000 for abreakthrough session and six
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months of coaching.
So you're getting a four-dayexperience and three months of
coaching with me for not evenhalf of that.
So I think these prices areonly temporary.
These prices are only as webuild.
These prices are going to go up.
They will probably double inthe next year or two.
So I would just say try and getin as soon as you can, because
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as we continue to grow and getbetter and incorporate more
aspects of luxury to these tripsand find nicer, nicer
properties.
These prices are not going tomaintain themselves.
The next one that I have is justour standard admission.
We have three standardadmission tickets.
This is basically just gettingyou in the door.
You're still going to get themassage.
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That is a part of it.
You're still going to get thechef dinners.
You're still going to get therelease session.
You just won't get theone-on-one coaching.
So instead you just take theday out by the pool or the beach
, wait for your massage and havechit chat, conversation with
friends.
Now you can always ask mequestions during the retreat.
You just won't get a 60 minuteone-on-one private coaching
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session.
That's the difference.
I'm happy to have conversationout and about publicly in the
room with the group, all thethings, but if you want that
private, one-on-one attention, Ihighly recommend upgrading and
getting one of the VIP tickets.
So that's only seven tickets,it's only seven spots.
For this trip and for thestandard admission that is less
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than $1,000 a night, excuse me.
Less than $1,000 a night isgetting you admission.
It's getting you fed for fourdays.
It's getting you accommodationsfour days.
It's getting you accommodations, luxury accommodations for four
nights.
It's getting you a 60-minutemassage.
It's like gift bags andworkbooks and all of the fun
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things that I'm not going totell you about, because I want
to surprise you when I knowyou're going to go and you're
going to have that life changingmoment Less than $1,000.
This is the one place that youcan invest into your business
and see immediate results.
I can tell you that.
I'll tell you this and ifyou've already heard this, you
can go ahead and just end thispodcast here.
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But thank you so much for beingthis far in.
And I want to tell you anotherstory, story of a client who was
just at our last retreat, sonot even three weeks ago.
She was at this retreat and Iremember her bawling her eyes
out.
She has actually been coachingwith me for about six months now
and came into coaching with aproperty that she owns and that
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she had bought with herex-husband that she really,
really, really desperatelywanted to sell.
So for six months we have beenattempting to sell this property
and she has had like noshowings at all, literally had
like maybe one or two, likenothing, dry as a bone.
The market must have just beendoing its thing.
So here she is, so stressed out, comes into the retreat and
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starts talking about theproperty with people and I'm
like, oh, that darn property.
Just like I know that themoment she lets go it's going to
sell, because I know energy iseverything.
So here we are.
It's finally coming to releaseday, day two, and she finally
decides to fully let go, let goof the control, let go of the
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need to have it go her way, letgo of the expectation, let go of
everything and just trustSurrender.
So she let go, and later onthat night, and then the next
day, and then again the next day, I kept hearing Jaina, I have
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another house tour booked.
Jaina, I have another housetour booked.
Oh my gosh, yet another housetour booked.
And here we are and fastforward a week.
So she just leaves the retreatand a week later I hear my house
is under contract, there aresome things we've got to make
sure go through first.
And Jaina, my house is undercontract.
There are some things we've gotto make sure go through first.
And Jaina, my house is undercontract.
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And I said let's not get tooexcited yet.
And then just yesterday I gotthe text Jaina, I sold my house.
How freaking cool, is that?
How freaking cool is that towant something so desperately
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and finally get to a point towhere you realize the only way
to get where you want to go isto surrender.
And the moment you let go,everything that's meant for you
will attract right to you likeyou're a freaking magnet.
But it can't when we're holdingon to all the things we think
are meant for us.
You have to let all of that goand just be, and part of being
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able to let all of that go andjust be is to give yourself the
space to do so, the time to beintentional about it.
And that is exactly what theseretreats are.
This is you time.
This is an opportunity for youto be self-full, not selfish
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Self-full.
Show up for you.
Mark off those five daysbecause you're going to need a
travel day.
Mark off those five days offyour calendar.
Organize your business in a waythat you have zero calls and
someone else is handling it all,so that you can show up, no
laptop phone on silent and youjust call your kids when family
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hour comes up, because I do havetimes for you guys to call your
kids written into my agenda,because I know that's important
and I want to make sure that youget that, but otherwise I want
you to put your phone down andbe present, and every single
woman did that at my lastretreat and every single one of
them said it was the mostprofound thing, because they're
so used to being sucked intothat cycle of doom scrolling,
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they're so used to being suckedin the cycle of emails, they're
so used to having those patternsrun, and it all starts with a
device.
So when you put your phone downright One of them, admit to me I
kept my Apple watch on.
I was like I get it, it's fine,she's like.
All I did was just look at thenotifications as they came in
just to see if there wasanything urgent, and I said
that's fine, you are stillbuilding self-trust.
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Maybe next retreat you'll takethe watch off too.
Because here's the thing it'snot about the tech, it's about
the pattern.
I'm here to help you break thepatterns.
Four days away from home breakspatterns.
Four days away from yourbusiness breaks patterns.
And if we change our patterns,we change our results, and then,
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naturally, your businesses boomand your problems.
Well, new level, new devil.
So I really hope that youenjoyed this, and if not you,
then who would benefit from aretreat like this?
If you know someone, or if youjust want to check out a little
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bit more about it, go tojanaswancom forward slash
retreats.
That's with an S plural,because we're running more than
one.
So go ahead, check that out,learn a little bit more, read
about it and, if you'reinterested, join the waiting
list.
We'd love to have you on it sowe can keep you informed, keep
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you in the loop and get you toone of our next Her Women's
Empowerment Treats.
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