February 20, 2024 • 15 mins
Are you navigating the complexities of grief and loss? How do you turn faith from a mere concept into a practical tool for navigating life's challenges? Our newest podcast episode offers a blend of Christian empathy and psychological insight to aid your path to recovery.Â
Jemese dives deep into the intricate dance between faith and adversity, revealing actionable strategies for harnessing the power of faith in your everyday life.Â
In this episode, you'll learn about:
1. The intersection of faith and psychology: Discover how faith and professional insight collaborate in facing life's challenges.
2. Grief's potential: Explore how loss can lead to profound growth and spiritual understanding.
3. The enduring power of prayer: Uncover prayer's ability to bring hope and connection to Jesus, guiding you through every season.
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Jemese LaChel (00:00):
Well, hey, friends, this is Kimi's,
obviously, and it's been aminute.
My heart is so raw and I'm justfeeling a little vulnerable
even as I sit down to recordthis episode.
It has just been so long.
It feels like it's been wellover a year.
I know.
If I look back, it's reallyjust been a few months since I
(00:23):
last uploaded an episode.
We were going to head into thesong of Solomon and then, bam,
life happened right and uh.
So we'll get back to that atsome point in the future.
I know that there's been someladies who are really looking
forward to that, but, um, yeah,I just feel like I owe it to you
(00:43):
as my listeners to um.
Share a little bit before wedive right back in.
The cool thing has been justGod's intentionality.
Is that a word?
He's been so intentional withme?
You know, if we know that Godis our father and we come to him
as a child would come to theirfather, well, I fully expect
(01:04):
that when I pray that I'm goingto get a response, and it may
not be right away.
It may not be the response thatI expected.
His response may seem to come alittle bit delayed.
His response may be what seemslike he's just very, very quiet,
but he speaks to me in his word, or you know.
But I fully expect that when Ipray or when I come to the Lord,
(01:26):
that he's gonna speak to me.
Something that the Lord hasspoken to me has been that this
podcast project which is notmine, it was always his this
project is something that hewants to continue to push forth
out into the nations.
And so, like I've had thesehiccup moments.
(01:46):
Most of you who have been withme through the beginning, from
the beginning, may recall littlemoments, little seasons where I
would step away or you know,episodes would come out and I
would step away and that kind ofthing.
Pick it up, put it down.
And it's just been reallyobvious to me that the Lord is
saying now is the time to pickthis thing back up.
So I'm excited because thatmeans that there's actually
(02:10):
several new testimonies comingdown the pipeline.
For those who are new to thispodcast, we share women's faith
stories here.
We share women's testimony ofJesus Christ.
We share about how, you know,we we've come to find Jesus and
the things that he's walked usthrough.
(02:30):
I am a Christian traumatherapist and I'm also a mentor
for women, and so something thatthe Lord has been really
deliberate with communicating tome is that there is a purpose
for why he placed mespecifically in this marketplace
(02:52):
, with this platform, and it hasnothing to do with me at all.
It has everything to do with theLord, jesus and his will and
what he wants to happen, becausea lot of times, a person will
go online to try to get help fora mental health illness or
something that they're goingthrough or you know, they're
(03:14):
trying to find themselves,whatever that's supposed to mean
, and they end up being met witha lot of secular solutions.
The beautiful thing about thatis that the Lord gave us the
science of the mind.
He understood the science ofthe body, and so it's not a
(03:36):
surprise that secular psychologyor you know, these solutions
can actually help people benefit.
They can actually help peopleto feel better in their bodies,
to, you know, recover fromtrauma.
But the problem is thatwhenever we pursue our healing
in those ways alone, it ends upbeing something that we have to
(04:00):
be married to for life.
It ends up being something thatpermanent deliverance and
healing doesn't come from, thatyou end up feeling like you have
to wear these labels the entirerest of your life or you have
to maintain these copingstrategies the entire rest of
your life.
When Jesus said he came to setthe captives free, jesus said
(04:22):
who the sun sets free is freeand deep.
Jesus is the healer, he's thedeliverer.
So there exists a space wherethe science of the mind, the
science of trauma healing, thescience of that kind of stuff,
needs to be matched and met withthe power of Jesus Christ and
somebody who can help walk youthrough that.
(04:44):
And that's what I do.
And the Lord has said it's timeto pick that back up again.
And so here I am and it feelsmessy, but I know that it's not
because he's with me, but I justwant it to be real, because I'm
a person and I don't ever wantmy clients to sit here and think
that I don't go through things.
I think that it's amisconception that because we
(05:09):
follow Christ, that we don't gothrough things.
But he said that we would.
I don't know where this ideacame from.
I believed it when I first cameinto the faith that I just you
know, wouldn't have problemslike that anymore because Jesus
is a way maker and yes, he is.
But he also promised us that wewould be persecuted, we would
go through trials and all this,that and the other, but he tells
(05:30):
us how to deal with that.
He says to count on joy and hetells us.
He tells us how to deal withthat.
And this is my long winded wayof saying that.
You know part of why I steppedaway from the podcast and from
offering like support to ladiesSome already know this but
because I experienced a loss.
(05:51):
I experienced a very tragicloss not even a week before
Thanksgiving here in the U S.
Um 2024, my no.
2023, november 2023, my motherpassed away very unexpectedly
and I'm not going to sharedetails about her loss here.
(06:12):
Um, but yeah, like lifehappened and it's just been such
a journey.
It's been such a journey for me.
It's been hard, it's beenbeautiful, it's been, um,
interesting and, like I don'tknow if you guys have the
(06:33):
interest in that, we can getinto some of the grief talk
because, like man, grief isweird and it makes me feel like
people act weird and say weirdthings to you and, um, it's just
been so interesting because,through that experience, I have
had such an intimacy with theLord that I would not have known
otherwise.
I was telling someone not toolong ago that, like while I,
(06:58):
while we would never wish thistype of pain on anyone, there's
just a, there's a beauty at adepth that only God can give.
Through knowing him that way,through knowing him through
grief, through knowing himthrough pain, through knowing
him through suffering, there'ssomething so beautifully
(07:20):
intimate that we can only knowhim that way.
Someone shared with me in a cardthat I received it.
Maybe she's listening to thispodcast episode, but it it
blessed me so much.
In the Beatitudes, matthewchapter 5, it says blessed are
(07:41):
the poor in spirit, for theirsis the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,for they shall become for tip.
And she began to explain to me.
This was a dear sister inChrist who had lost her mother.
I want to say, maybe two yearsprior, she found out what
happened with my mom and how wejust lost her.
So suddenly she said you know,jimmy's, the beautiful thing
(08:05):
about Christ is that throughloss, through our morning, in
our morning, we are promised anencounter with the Holy Spirit.
We're in prom, we're promisedan encounter with a comforter,
and many of us have read thatscripture many times.
(08:26):
But man, it just, it just hitme different.
It hit me different and that'sbeen something I've climbed to.
So I guess I just bring all thatup to say like, yeah, it's been
hard and grief is hard andthere are grieving people all
over the world, but what abeauty in recognizing that in
(08:49):
that grief, the Lord, he, wantsto meet you there.
He says that you're blessed.
Blessed are those who mourn,for they shall be comforted.
I hopped on here today and hebrought me to John 14, 27, where
(09:10):
he says this is Jesus.
He says peace.
I leave with you.
My peace I give to you, not asthe world gives, do I give to
you, but not your heart betroubled, neither, let it be
afraid.
There's just so many promises,cover to cover, in the Bible and
I think it's easy to pick upthe Bible and, like you know,
(09:32):
people tell you you're notsupposed to pick it up to find
out more about you.
You're supposed to read theBible and what it does is it
reveals more of who God is to us, reveals more of his will, his
character, his nature.
It reveals his heart forhumanity and it does also tell
(09:53):
us about our proper identity inhim.
It does also tell us how we areto navigate our lives.
It does also tell us about ourown self, and so I don't know.
I don't know why I'm saying that.
Maybe somebody needs to hear it, maybe I'm saying that for
myself.
But I just want to encourageyou and the Lord that whatever
(10:17):
you're going through, whateveryour thing is because we all
have that thing maybe it doesn'tfeel as like huge as, okay, I
lost my mom or I lost my lovedone, or, you know, maybe your
thing is much Bigger than that.
Maybe your thing is, you know,doesn't even compare and I
haven't even I haven't even hitthe nail in the head yet, right,
(10:39):
know that God's word does Speakto you.
God's word does have wisdom.
God's word does have wisdom foryou.
The Lord does want you, in hisword, to hear what he has to say
.
He has a word that applies toyou.
(11:00):
Fear will creep in and try totell you that you're not good
enough.
Fear will creep in and tell youthat you know You're doing too
much.
Fear will creep in and justtell you all kind of things.
But I just told somebody that,literally earlier today, I said
where in the Bible does it tellus to fear?
It doesn't.
It doesn't Weird if you'renothing but the Lord.
(11:24):
And the fear of the Lord is notthe fear that the world has,
just like the peace that Jesusgives us.
It's not like the peace thatwe'll find out there in the
world, for peace that we findout in the world it doesn't last
.
It comes with suffering, butthe peace that the Lord gives us
endures.
His peace will meet you, evenin our hospital room when your
(11:49):
mother's dying.
You know like not to be graphic, but the peace of God will meet
you.
The peace of God will meet youand the place of pain in your
life, the peace of God, willmeet you.
And you don't have to messstraight up and you don't have
to try hard for and you don'thave to strive about it.
But the peace of God, it willfind you.
(12:10):
And if you hear little feet inthe background while I'm talking
, that's my five-year-oldWanting to hear, wanting to see
what her mama's doing in herprayer, closet talking to
Talking to you ladies.
Anyways, I don't know where Iwas at.
This was.
This episode is really justmeant to be.
Like me dipping my toes back inthe water for like the
(12:30):
millionth time Is what it feelslike.
I've done several episodes likethese where I've laid it down
and I'm picking it back up, butI am.
I'm here and I'm being obedientand I'm excited to share what
God has done and what he's doing, and I'm very excited to
continue to point Others toJesus.
The very cool thing I'll wrap upwith this is that, like you
(12:54):
know, I have not been activewith the podcast for the last
several months, yet I get aweekly what's it called like?
A weekly email For my podcasthost, and it's just been so
incredible to see that, despiteme doing literally nothing like,
there's still people listeningto this podcast and it is still
(13:14):
affecting People, and people aregetting deliverance.
People are, you know, reachingout and saying what you know.
They want to contact this guestor that guest or you know, and
then hearing testimony of peoplehaving listened to certain
episodes.
They're getting deliverance andthat is just Such a glory to
God like I will never steal hisglory.
(13:36):
I will never say it was me.
I will never say anything likethat, because I know that it is
only him who could have donethis.
That is only the Lord Jesus whocould have done this, and for
that very reason, I am just sowilling to to keep going.
Sometimes my heart still hurtsand it feels raw still to me and
even as a as a trauma therapistlike I am navigating life.
(14:00):
I'm navigating Strong emotion,I'm navigating grief.
I'm navigating All of thosethings right.
But I know what it's like tohurt.
I know what it's like toexperience tragedy.
I know what that's like.
I know what it's like to pickup and say I'm gonna keep going.
I know what it's like to belike.
You know what Jesus you told methat XYZ, but I'm not seeing it
(14:23):
in my life, but I'm gonnachoose you anyways.
I know that kind of stuff islikely to run all those ideas
and thoughts through your headand I don't know.
Anyways, I'm rambling.
I just wanted to pop on here.
I'm very grateful for your time.
I just pray that the Lord willbless you and keep you.
I forgot to pray before westarted this episode, so let's
(14:44):
do that now.
Gracious father, I want to thankyou for the opportunity to
connect with these listeners.
I pray that the name of Jesus,you would bless each and every
one, lord God, that you wouldmeet them right there in their
place of need, that you wouldtouch every Stony place in their
heart, that you would just haveyour way and let your name be
(15:06):
known in the earth.
Have your way, lord God, andbring the deliverance that only
you can bring.
Have your way, lord God.
I mean the peace and only youcan bring.
I pray that the Lord wouldbless you and keep each and
every one of my listeners, butyou, specifically you, who's
listening right now.
I pray that the Lord will keepyou until we meet again.
(15:26):
Thank you for taking the timeto listen.
I invite you to come follow meon Instagram.
Action means less shell.
That's where I do all myupdates and that's the place I
most active on social media.
I can't wait to connect withyou and, yeah, peace.
Well, hey, friends, this is Kimi's,
obviously, and it's been aminute.
My heart is so raw and I'm justfeeling a little vulnerable
even as I sit down to recordthis episode.
It has just been so long.
It feels like it's been wellover a year.
I know.
If I look back, it's reallyjust been a few months since I
(00:23):
last uploaded an episode.
We were going to head into thesong of Solomon and then, bam,
life happened right and uh.
So we'll get back to that atsome point in the future.
I know that there's been someladies who are really looking
forward to that, but, um, yeah,I just feel like I owe it to you
(00:43):
as my listeners to um.
Share a little bit before wedive right back in.
The cool thing has been justGod's intentionality.
Is that a word?
He's been so intentional withme?
You know, if we know that Godis our father and we come to him
as a child would come to theirfather, well, I fully expect
(01:04):
that when I pray that I'm goingto get a response, and it may
not be right away.
It may not be the response thatI expected.
His response may seem to come alittle bit delayed.
His response may be what seemslike he's just very, very quiet,
but he speaks to me in his word, or you know.
But I fully expect that when Ipray or when I come to the Lord,
(01:26):
that he's gonna speak to me.
Something that the Lord hasspoken to me has been that this
podcast project which is notmine, it was always his this
project is something that hewants to continue to push forth
out into the nations.
And so, like I've had thesehiccup moments.
(01:46):
Most of you who have been withme through the beginning, from
the beginning, may recall littlemoments, little seasons where I
would step away or you know,episodes would come out and I
would step away and that kind ofthing.
Pick it up, put it down.
And it's just been reallyobvious to me that the Lord is
saying now is the time to pickthis thing back up.
So I'm excited because thatmeans that there's actually
(02:10):
several new testimonies comingdown the pipeline.
For those who are new to thispodcast, we share women's faith
stories here.
We share women's testimony ofJesus Christ.
We share about how, you know,we we've come to find Jesus and
the things that he's walked usthrough.
(02:30):
I am a Christian traumatherapist and I'm also a mentor
for women, and so something thatthe Lord has been really
deliberate with communicating tome is that there is a purpose
for why he placed mespecifically in this marketplace
(02:52):
, with this platform, and it hasnothing to do with me at all.
It has everything to do with theLord, jesus and his will and
what he wants to happen, becausea lot of times, a person will
go online to try to get help fora mental health illness or
something that they're goingthrough or you know, they're
(03:14):
trying to find themselves,whatever that's supposed to mean
, and they end up being met witha lot of secular solutions.
The beautiful thing about thatis that the Lord gave us the
science of the mind.
He understood the science ofthe body, and so it's not a
(03:36):
surprise that secular psychologyor you know, these solutions
can actually help people benefit.
They can actually help peopleto feel better in their bodies,
to, you know, recover fromtrauma.
But the problem is thatwhenever we pursue our healing
in those ways alone, it ends upbeing something that we have to
(04:00):
be married to for life.
It ends up being something thatpermanent deliverance and
healing doesn't come from, thatyou end up feeling like you have
to wear these labels the entirerest of your life or you have
to maintain these copingstrategies the entire rest of
your life.
When Jesus said he came to setthe captives free, jesus said
(04:22):
who the sun sets free is freeand deep.
Jesus is the healer, he's thedeliverer.
So there exists a space wherethe science of the mind, the
science of trauma healing, thescience of that kind of stuff,
needs to be matched and met withthe power of Jesus Christ and
somebody who can help walk youthrough that.
(04:44):
And that's what I do.
And the Lord has said it's timeto pick that back up again.
And so here I am and it feelsmessy, but I know that it's not
because he's with me, but I justwant it to be real, because I'm
a person and I don't ever wantmy clients to sit here and think
that I don't go through things.
I think that it's amisconception that because we
(05:09):
follow Christ, that we don't gothrough things.
But he said that we would.
I don't know where this ideacame from.
I believed it when I first cameinto the faith that I just you
know, wouldn't have problemslike that anymore because Jesus
is a way maker and yes, he is.
But he also promised us that wewould be persecuted, we would
go through trials and all this,that and the other, but he tells
(05:30):
us how to deal with that.
He says to count on joy and hetells us.
He tells us how to deal withthat.
And this is my long winded wayof saying that.
You know part of why I steppedaway from the podcast and from
offering like support to ladiesSome already know this but
because I experienced a loss.
(05:51):
I experienced a very tragicloss not even a week before
Thanksgiving here in the U S.
Um 2024, my no.
2023, november 2023, my motherpassed away very unexpectedly
and I'm not going to sharedetails about her loss here.
(06:12):
Um, but yeah, like lifehappened and it's just been such
a journey.
It's been such a journey for me.
It's been hard, it's beenbeautiful, it's been, um,
interesting and, like I don'tknow if you guys have the
(06:33):
interest in that, we can getinto some of the grief talk
because, like man, grief isweird and it makes me feel like
people act weird and say weirdthings to you and, um, it's just
been so interesting because,through that experience, I have
had such an intimacy with theLord that I would not have known
otherwise.
I was telling someone not toolong ago that, like while I,
(06:58):
while we would never wish thistype of pain on anyone, there's
just a, there's a beauty at adepth that only God can give.
Through knowing him that way,through knowing him through
grief, through knowing himthrough pain, through knowing
him through suffering, there'ssomething so beautifully
(07:20):
intimate that we can only knowhim that way.
Someone shared with me in a cardthat I received it.
Maybe she's listening to thispodcast episode, but it it
blessed me so much.
In the Beatitudes, matthewchapter 5, it says blessed are
(07:41):
the poor in spirit, for theirsis the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,for they shall become for tip.
And she began to explain to me.
This was a dear sister inChrist who had lost her mother.
I want to say, maybe two yearsprior, she found out what
happened with my mom and how wejust lost her.
So suddenly she said you know,jimmy's, the beautiful thing
(08:05):
about Christ is that throughloss, through our morning, in
our morning, we are promised anencounter with the Holy Spirit.
We're in prom, we're promisedan encounter with a comforter,
and many of us have read thatscripture many times.
(08:26):
But man, it just, it just hitme different.
It hit me different and that'sbeen something I've climbed to.
So I guess I just bring all thatup to say like, yeah, it's been
hard and grief is hard andthere are grieving people all
over the world, but what abeauty in recognizing that in
(08:49):
that grief, the Lord, he, wantsto meet you there.
He says that you're blessed.
Blessed are those who mourn,for they shall be comforted.
I hopped on here today and hebrought me to John 14, 27, where
(09:10):
he says this is Jesus.
He says peace.
I leave with you.
My peace I give to you, not asthe world gives, do I give to
you, but not your heart betroubled, neither, let it be
afraid.
There's just so many promises,cover to cover, in the Bible and
I think it's easy to pick upthe Bible and, like you know,
(09:32):
people tell you you're notsupposed to pick it up to find
out more about you.
You're supposed to read theBible and what it does is it
reveals more of who God is to us, reveals more of his will, his
character, his nature.
It reveals his heart forhumanity and it does also tell
(09:53):
us about our proper identity inhim.
It does also tell us how we areto navigate our lives.
It does also tell us about ourown self, and so I don't know.
I don't know why I'm saying that.
Maybe somebody needs to hear it, maybe I'm saying that for
myself.
But I just want to encourageyou and the Lord that whatever
(10:17):
you're going through, whateveryour thing is because we all
have that thing maybe it doesn'tfeel as like huge as, okay, I
lost my mom or I lost my lovedone, or, you know, maybe your
thing is much Bigger than that.
Maybe your thing is, you know,doesn't even compare and I
haven't even I haven't even hitthe nail in the head yet, right,
(10:39):
know that God's word does Speakto you.
God's word does have wisdom.
God's word does have wisdom foryou.
The Lord does want you, in hisword, to hear what he has to say
.
He has a word that applies toyou.
(11:00):
Fear will creep in and try totell you that you're not good
enough.
Fear will creep in and tell youthat you know You're doing too
much.
Fear will creep in and justtell you all kind of things.
But I just told somebody that,literally earlier today, I said
where in the Bible does it tellus to fear?
It doesn't.
It doesn't Weird if you'renothing but the Lord.
(11:24):
And the fear of the Lord is notthe fear that the world has,
just like the peace that Jesusgives us.
It's not like the peace thatwe'll find out there in the
world, for peace that we findout in the world it doesn't last
.
It comes with suffering, butthe peace that the Lord gives us
endures.
His peace will meet you, evenin our hospital room when your
(11:49):
mother's dying.
You know like not to be graphic, but the peace of God will meet
you.
The peace of God will meet youand the place of pain in your
life, the peace of God, willmeet you.
And you don't have to messstraight up and you don't have
to try hard for and you don'thave to strive about it.
But the peace of God, it willfind you.
(12:10):
And if you hear little feet inthe background while I'm talking
, that's my five-year-oldWanting to hear, wanting to see
what her mama's doing in herprayer, closet talking to
Talking to you ladies.
Anyways, I don't know where Iwas at.
This was.
This episode is really justmeant to be.
Like me dipping my toes back inthe water for like the
(12:30):
millionth time Is what it feelslike.
I've done several episodes likethese where I've laid it down
and I'm picking it back up, butI am.
I'm here and I'm being obedientand I'm excited to share what
God has done and what he's doing, and I'm very excited to
continue to point Others toJesus.
The very cool thing I'll wrap upwith this is that, like you
(12:54):
know, I have not been activewith the podcast for the last
several months, yet I get aweekly what's it called like?
A weekly email For my podcasthost, and it's just been so
incredible to see that, despiteme doing literally nothing like,
there's still people listeningto this podcast and it is still
(13:14):
affecting People, and people aregetting deliverance.
People are, you know, reachingout and saying what you know.
They want to contact this guestor that guest or you know, and
then hearing testimony of peoplehaving listened to certain
episodes.
They're getting deliverance andthat is just Such a glory to
God like I will never steal hisglory.
(13:36):
I will never say it was me.
I will never say anything likethat, because I know that it is
only him who could have donethis.
That is only the Lord Jesus whocould have done this, and for
that very reason, I am just sowilling to to keep going.
Sometimes my heart still hurtsand it feels raw still to me and
even as a as a trauma therapistlike I am navigating life.
(14:00):
I'm navigating Strong emotion,I'm navigating grief.
I'm navigating All of thosethings right.
But I know what it's like tohurt.
I know what it's like toexperience tragedy.
I know what that's like.
I know what it's like to pickup and say I'm gonna keep going.
I know what it's like to belike.
You know what Jesus you told methat XYZ, but I'm not seeing it
(14:23):
in my life, but I'm gonnachoose you anyways.
I know that kind of stuff islikely to run all those ideas
and thoughts through your headand I don't know.
Anyways, I'm rambling.
I just wanted to pop on here.
I'm very grateful for your time.
I just pray that the Lord willbless you and keep you.
I forgot to pray before westarted this episode, so let's
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do that now.
Gracious father, I want to thankyou for the opportunity to
connect with these listeners.
I pray that the name of Jesus,you would bless each and every
one, lord God, that you wouldmeet them right there in their
place of need, that you wouldtouch every Stony place in their
heart, that you would just haveyour way and let your name be
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known in the earth.
Have your way, lord God, andbring the deliverance that only
you can bring.
Have your way, lord God.
I mean the peace and only youcan bring.
I pray that the Lord wouldbless you and keep each and
every one of my listeners, butyou, specifically you, who's
listening right now.
I pray that the Lord will keepyou until we meet again.
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Thank you for taking the timeto listen.
I invite you to come follow meon Instagram.
Action means less shell.
That's where I do all myupdates and that's the place I
most active on social media.
I can't wait to connect withyou and, yeah, peace.
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