nothing but careers

In this episode, the crew returns after a brief hiatus to delve into the world of careers and education. They discuss their personal journeys, the challenges they've faced, and the lessons they've learned along the way. From navigating the complexities of the job market to balancing work and personal life, the hosts share candid insights and experiences. Whether you're just starting your career or looking to make a change, this episode offers valuable perspectives and advice. Tune in for an honest and relatable conversation about the paths we choose and the growth that comes with them

Episode Transcript

(00:01):
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to a pot
about nothing. This is episode for you guys.
Are here with Eric, David, Ashley and Kevin and the back,
what up, what up and so David, can you remind us what we're
going to talk about today? Oh yeah, we're going to talk
about careers. Actually what we studied and

(00:25):
experienced various means I'm still in school.
Yeah, and job experience or not Jack is But job right post post
college graduation for at least Ash and I because you're on the
way. So yeah.
Something more serious guys are very very helpful.
Yeah. Mark Mark isn't lucky vacation

(00:46):
mode is in Lake Tahoe right now so that's why he's not here.
But shout out Mark. Chatter Kevin sound engineer.
Hope you enjoy your vacation. I know.
Look, beautiful the lake. He was on my beautiful.
But yeah they had an early Sunrise to elect.
Yeah he's mean. That always looks cool.

(01:06):
Yeah for your cemetery and big bears or wherever we went is
that like up north oh it's way up North yeah it's kind of like
Closer to some other state of Lake Tahoe?
Yeah. But if I remember, I've already
told me, I was like like three four hours away from San
Francisco, some friends at, oh yeah, that's the way up North.

(01:27):
Yeah, but I guess that's like his of it of the traffic going
up like more like it's not like distance wise is not that much
but it it is a lot of traffic. Yeah.
Yeah. Because in the mountains, you
can't really drive fast because it's like windy, right?
And it's like, Slow miles per hour so I guess.

(01:49):
Well, one thing that's close to Nevada.
Yeah, just looked it up. Yeah, so it's yeah, it looks
cool though. It's really big because I was
looking it up before and it's very big that area.
But yeah, we're gonna have them on the next pot when he's back.

(02:12):
But today we're going to talk about careers and schooling.
So so we'll share like Spirit person experiences, yay.
Then we're going to the questions.
So first. Eric.
Yeah. So I'll start so, Growing up.
I've always wanted to be an architect.
I love building things and stufflike that, and then, oh, I was

(02:36):
inspired because of my dad, because my dad when he was
building his way up to be a contractor.
And so I guess I would see a lotof like the labor side of it.
And then I would also see like how he would communicate with
Architects and stuff like that and that kind of reminded me
because like, I will see that. Yeah.
They're the big dogs stuff like that and and I wanted To be one

(02:58):
and then High School came by. I'm not saying my friends were
bad but they they weren't his they weren't as inspired of as
what I wanted to be like me. So I was like dang is kind of
discouraging as an architect or like.
No. No.
They want to discuss something else.
Yeah. They weren't as interested as

(03:18):
like a as I know. No.
I guess they were just more likeliving the day.
He's going to emotions going through the motions.
Yeah. Everything that we can. it's
just kidding and then so it was in high school as a senior I was

(03:41):
Time to apply. And then, that's when I really
question, I would like, man. Do I really want to be an
architect? I was kind of iffy about it and
then all my friends that wanted to go to college.
They ended up choosing business because they don't know what
else they want to do. That's a difficult thing and so
oh yeah. They weren't they went to Cal
State LA and then I was like, you know, I'm just gonna go with

(04:03):
them. I'm gonna I'm gonna follow their
steps so I also chose business. I think I chose business.
Administration. I think it was.
Yeah. And then yeah orientation came
by. I got accepted orientation came
by, and I didn't like it at all like the way they display
themselves. I like my and this is not for
me. So I kind of went to the

(04:27):
Community College route. I took a year to actually kind
of like figure out what I wantedto be.
And then a friend of a friend ofmine was like, oh I'm it looks
like you want to do architecturebecause I was talking to him
about it and he was like, why don't?
It, you take General engineeringclass and that's a class where
it kind of describes what engineering is all about.

(04:47):
Like, how many fields like you have mechanical Aerospace civil
and like how you kind of learn about it.
And then it was in that class where I kind of I was like oh I
want to be a civil and so I chose that.
Did I my classes? And then I want to be like, by
the way, Andy lack is a really, really nice.

(05:07):
Cool, they're pretty ahead and what they have because I took
some of I took most of my 300 classes there.
So I was kind of expected that way when I transferred I was
only going to all supposed to bedone in like a year and a half
in once I transferred to a four-year And when I went to

(05:28):
Long Beach, Long Beach dinners have like, I think it was like
eight classes, eight of those 300 classes.
And and so I kind of when I transferred, it took me like a
year to retake all those classesbecause all those classes were
filled out fast. So yeah, right now, I'm like, 6
years is taking me in, like, around six years to finish.

(05:51):
I'm expected to be done next spring, but you're also working,
right? So, yeah, Matter of fact, I'm
working I'm working this summer.So yeah, I can only focus on
this semester because I'm on my 400 level classes now.
So, I'm just about to wrap it up, like, I see, I see that that

(06:12):
I finish my mission. Yeah, so that's my story.
Good job. Very good and smart that you
went to Community College. Yeah, it took me awhile there.
I took me. Financial is finding out.
Yeah, it's always a choice. I know it's a question that's

(06:32):
going to come up later on. There were going to answer but
that's one of them is Community College and once her that later
you yeah but it took me awhile and Community College to
actually figure out what I wanted it from figuring out what
I wanted to be. It's like leaving and having
like a firm foundation on like what I want to actually be.

(06:53):
So I'm glad I took that step andit's a little not sad but it was
a little like because I mean time runs out no matter what you
want to do and in a sense. Yeah.
Innocence sentences. Yeah, like no matter what you're
doing time is still running. Yeah.
But that's a good, that's a goodthing that you have that in
mind, you have a such sense of urgency.

(07:15):
Yeah, write that in terms of that sense of urgency and you
were determined, I think. But I think, you know, my mom
always said, knowledge is forever.
So I think those like a classes that you think that, well, I
don't think you've wasted it. Are you spend time?
I know it was kind of when I when I retook.
Yeah, when somebody Lies when I was trying to retake those.

(07:36):
I mean, even then, like, if we taking eight of those classes
and four-year college is much more expensive, and IT classes
is an entire year. It is it's on average.
Four classes for me. It's like for classes.
Yeah, one inch I wasn't that madblack so that's what makes it
like like next semester on I-17 units.

(08:00):
Each class has their Labs finals.
Yeah, but that's my story. It's a tip of the iceberg
because I could go on and on andon I mean yeah we could all we
could all go on it could all go on differently, go on.
But that's just one of the what are the differences in regards

(08:21):
to like going to school and the myths about Community College
and not knowing With the study so so we're going yeah I guess
it is. You're the only one that went to
a four-year straight from high school high school.
So I kind of regret not going toCommunity College.

(08:41):
I would have stayed up so much money but whatever it is what it
is. But yeah, I actually I didn't
really know what I wanted to do when I was in high school.
So I applied, right? And I was an avid, which is, I
don't know, program, a program like a road to cook a college
prep. Yeah, it's called 2020.

(09:04):
It was like road to college or something so they help you out
with like taking AP classes. So I could go to your towards
your college or if you go to a community college and then since
I went to a pre-digital predominantly Asian school.
Well, Hispanic were like the minority I guess.

(09:24):
So these like like Asians would get into like UCLA straight from
high school and Princeton and Yale rice.
Like all these prestigious High prestigious universities.
So this AVID program was like, to help us, right?
So I always wanted to go to Christian private school, but it

(09:45):
was way too much money. So I was like, Mom, Dad, I want
to go and they're like, no, likewe can't afford that.
So so I Applied to public schoolfor a year and I got accepted to
some. But my, my two choices were
Fullerton or Pomona, and I was like, kind of kind of like stuck

(10:05):
between the two and I paid the like the acceptance you have to
pay like, but the I don't remember.
It's called, was like a hundred and something?
Yeah, acceptance to say that, oh, I'm going to that school.
And so I was like, where, where should I go?
So I just paid. My parents are like, just pay
for both and then we'll pray. So he's like they would pray,
they prayed and I prayed, and then I got a job by Cal Poly

(10:28):
Pomona. So I was like, okay, well, the
answer is Cal Poly Pomona. So then I went to Cal Poly,
Pomona straight from high school, and then it took me four
and a half years because they transferred from from quarter
cement. Nope, Um, Quarter Two semesters.

(10:49):
So some of the classes didn't like line up.
So I had to take an extra semester and then, oh, I really
didn't know what to do. I guess my major right?
That's important. So I chose business like Eric
because there's like five, I think so I when I got accepted
to a business, real estate. Yeah, I know that was a thing.

(11:11):
Yeah, real estate. It was real estate and law like
business law and I was like no, I don't really want to do this.
So I switched over to E-Businesswhich is like electronic
business and it was under the technology operations
management. So it was like a managerial
business. Yeah.
So yeah, I chose business kept it on and then four and a half

(11:34):
years later and then I started working and then the pandemic
happened. So we didn't have a graduation
and then so I had I was like working and then I was like, oh
can I have the day off? Because I'm going to graduate
from college. They're like, what?
I thought you graduated, but then, yeah, that's what
happened. So we didn't have a graduation

(11:55):
because of pandemic. But I graduated well, I walked
basically, I walked but I finished December, 2019.
And then, since I was already working, like in the it was
part-time and like the like the E-Business side, why?
I had a like I guess a lot of experience.

(12:16):
So I got a job really quick and and I would go like two
interviews and stuff like that. So business is pretty broad.
Like you can kind of like apply anywhere and you don't really
have to know like I applied liketo Packaging.
Like obviously in the business area right now to packaged
salads, right? But which is fine, like, that's

(12:39):
an honest job. But I like pack, I applied to
like very different where they sold, like scooters, where they
sold them and Amazon, but now I've been since College.
I've been working there and at my now job, I don't know if I
should say it right? No.
Right to say what you with your position called operations,

(13:01):
administrative operations. Ian's assistant.
Yeah. So that's a pretty long title.
Yeah. So I kind of do Logistics
accounting and Administer a whole lot.
That's not part of the title, but it always ends up being like
that. Yeah, it really is your title is

(13:23):
in, you're not limited to what your title is.
So But yeah. That's my story.
Yeah, what about you? David tells your story man?
That was long. No.
Is the time in years ago. Yeah, I'm a lot older than Eric.
So yeah, me too, but I mean the high school I don't know what I

(13:51):
was going to study at even know if I was going to go to like a
university or not, I think at that time.
A lot of universities weren't getting people, like you had to
be the not the top of the top. Oh Century, it was
oversaturated, you know, like super over saturated because at

(14:11):
that time, that it was a boy, not a doubt that it was a boom.
But there were pushing, go to university, go to university, go
to university. So, a lot of like, 2009-2010
people like, oh, oh yeah, cuz this whole host of the market
economy, right? And like jobs at that time.
They're like we want people withdegrees.

(14:33):
Yeah. What degrees with degree with
degree. So a lot of people are going
back to school. Yeah, University stuff like
that. So I ended up going to Rio
Hondo. And since everybody at the,
that's one thing at the start offall and any college, there's a
whole lot of people registry. Oh yeah.

(14:53):
To Community College universities.
So classes are like very scarce in the fall, in the fall in the
spring and winter and all that stuff.
People drop out because of life and such a lot easier to like in
the spring. So that's a headset for all of
you are gonna go to college. And then I got over Hondo

(15:16):
Community College, Harvard on the hill and like ash, like
everybody. I don't know what to study like,
so I went into business businessaccounting or accounting, right?
That's that falls on your business.
I took it like math. Comes easy to me.
Like, I really enjoy doing math.You know, it's challenging, but

(15:38):
it's like, once you figure out the equation, the problem like
it's easy. I got this I heard because it's
like one answer, right? Yeah.
And then like reading or Englishis like yeah.
And then like English. Yeah yeah.
Writing and stuff like grammar. Not like at that time I wasn't
really too good at it so I was like I'm not gonna do anything

(15:59):
rash or read because it ain't like reading and yeah I stuck
with business actually like my business administration.
Professor like, I mean, I think he was rich.
I don't know, he made it seem like he was rich, but like that
intro is like, all this is cool.Then I started taking accounting
classes. I was like, yeah, this is

(16:20):
boring, like I could do this butI don't want to be doing this
for the rest of my life. You know it's boring just
because it's like Excel. Does this for me, you know like
Excel does this for me. and, Yeah, it did two years and a
half, I applied a Casa El lado. I had applied at Apu right, out

(16:45):
of right out of high school and I didn't get a cent because of
my GPA, and then they said we'lljust do one semester Community
College and reapply and it will consider you Well, reconsider.
You just do one semester and I was just like, nah, I'm okay.

(17:07):
So I just stuck it out. And then I apply to Cal State
LA, I think I did apply to kill State Long Beach but I think
Casserly answered first. And I just went with that one.
Hmm. And I started taking more
business classes, marketing classes.
So now there are focused on my office.

(17:29):
I had switched, I went in as a counting, I switch to marketing,
you know, because I really like product, like shirts shoes and
the hose it easy to switch for you.
Yeah. Because those were the taking I
already took the general classes, right?
Of business. All right, like, the core

(17:50):
classes or classes and I just said, no, I don't want to do
this. And because all my exams, they
were like, if I were going to take the CPA exam to be a
certified public accounting, there were hard, but I'm just
like, I gotta pee like, $400 that time, probably $400 for

(18:11):
this exam. 24 to be certified like and get out of here.
Yeah. Am I gonna pee?
And then you have to redo it all.
Again like you have to keep on recertifying that certificate
and I was like yeah I'm not gonna do that like well it yeah
I guess because you didn't know you were in motivate you as soon
as I saw it and like I saw my professor how like she was

(18:33):
always like uptight and also he's this hog hunting.
People are like yeah like super mad and stuff and I'm over here
answering the questions. All easy.
And like I just don't know if she was mad that it was easy and
like and like she meant, she tried to make it hard but it's
like, now I got this, you know? And the good thing is she was

(18:55):
pregnant. So she was gone and in some
cooler teacher King and he's like wow where did your exams
are really hard? Sounds like tell me about it
he's like yeah this is like CPA exam level and I'm like I don't
want to do this, you know? I mean, I could do this but I
don't want to be bored. By doing this, you know.

(19:20):
So I switched the marketing you know because like everybody who
knows me knows that I like brands shoes and all that stuff.
Yeah, even know with the the stickers.
Thank you stickers. And it's like the way to promote
that product, right? Like accounting is cool.

(19:41):
Engineering is cool. Everything is cool.
But the marketing part That's Where It's At in terms of, like,
what we're going to do. What product, how we're going to
sell a, what we need on this product, right?
So you're more like on a creative, you like the creative
side of marketing? Yeah.
Okay. Yeah, because that's how I got
into it. And then that's something you

(20:03):
guys everybody needs to take a note at that.
If you guys having gone to college some of the classes that
they don't, they teach like in the fall, they don't teach you
in the spring. So I wasted a whole year at Cal
State LA. We like random classes because I
had to wait to the next fall to get the next marketing class.

(20:23):
And so that's why I like I did and then you cannot just not go
to school for a semester. So, right.
So I took like this art class that in need to take and then
econ that one. I got a minor in econ.

(20:46):
And I enjoyed it because it was really challenging, it was
really challenging because like the more you got into it, the
more complex, it got, and then so I just minor doing it and I
enjoyed it because there's just like, a lot of verbiage a lot of
business aspects of like, why a bunch of car dealerships are in

(21:10):
one area. Like, why are you why are you
next to the competition? Basically, you learn all that
stuff. of in that type of econ classes that I took and
Marketing. Yeah, it's just I don't really
like the whole aspect of how am I going to sell this product?

(21:31):
I'm going to do it but also moreof the creative side.
I really do enjoy that part. And then I graduated and then
well, now I'm not working in marketing because it's very hard
to get. That's one of the things like I
didn't get an internship in marketing and then what I did
try to look for one, the mark, the Whatever director whoever

(21:54):
she tries to help you. She was very like uptight to
because she graduated from you to see, and she came from, you
see, Masters and all that. And I had asked her like, oh so
I was talking to my counselor and they led me to you about
internships and stuff. She's like if you think I'm
going to find you an internship,you're wrong and this was all
through email and I'm just like my reading this wrong or is she

(22:18):
was like I was like honestly, I don't know who you are, I don't
care. Care who you are.
I put that in the email. You were just brought up in a
conversation and then like her verbage changed after that and I
just didn't respond back to me. It was already late.
It was already like kind of likeit had already lost you.

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Yeah. And a lot of the people that I
know that work in marketing is kind of cool.
Because they go to places and stuff to promote butt.
Like the pay like you kind of start low. you know, and that's
because like I looked up when I was on my old job, I looked up

(23:03):
the marketing jobs like when they start because that the
entry level And is very low. There's like, no, I get paid
more than that here. I can't just go back down and I
mean, I could, but it's just like very chain.
Like, yeah, you either like be broke like yeah.
Be broke sacrifice a lot of other things and start from the

(23:25):
bottom. Okay, yeah, you know, sometimes
like you don't work and what youcan work in a something similar,
but it's not exactly what you, what, you studying.
Yeah. Like I thought I was going to
run like a group of people or something, but no I'm behind
computer doing the counting. Like I'd never.

(23:47):
I didn't study accounting. Yeah, and I'm doing accounting.
So it's always different, but yeah, that goes back to it.
Yeah. Like you do more than wait your
ass where you rest. Yeah, yes to do.
And I graduated, that's another thing you guys got to see when
to graduate, like when's the deadlines and things like that
because they don't tell you these things.

(24:08):
The deadlines of graduating likeAppliance because you have to
apply to graduate and then they review the and they review it
and they're like, okay, you could, you could graduate so I
missed the deadline but like a week and then like, oh well you
could just graduate in the winter or something like that.
They're just gonna wait for the spring.
I don't care like I'm gonna I don't care about walking then

(24:30):
the ceremony, but just like for my parents to see and stuff like
I'll just wait for the screen. I just apply for the spring.
NG graduation. Oh, and then when I was in Casa
del a, I graduated from Rio Hondo because I only transferred
from Rio Hondo, I didn't apply to graduate or yeah, you know,

(24:55):
me, they always like, what's thepoint of walking or graduating
from a community college? If you're not even done.
Oh, but don't you receive your AAA?
Yes, you do. So, so one of the things that I
think it was Let's not give me anything though, career.
Yeah, I mean, just like jobs in general.
It's like you started something and you finished it.

(25:18):
So that's what they see, right? I know Bachelors is the
important part. But you can say, like, hey I
started and I just finished it and I did all the requirements
to finish it. No.
So that's one of the things thatyou can say in an interview that
I started something and I finished it and the reason why I
also didn't graduate from Rio because at that time, At time, I

(25:40):
didn't pass the reading test andI was just like, I want to take
a reading class, and one of my friends do not help me get no
help me, but he told me to applyit at my old job.
He told me he's on now. Just go take the reading test
and graduate and I was like, allright, I'll go do it.
So I did it, and I passed it. And then I applied to graduate.

(26:04):
And I walked, when I was at Cal State, LA, I walked out Rio
Hondo. If I should do that then it's
just one of the things I also did is for my mainly, my mom,
but my dad to, you know, cuz he's a hustler, this is for the
family. But you know, cuz you know, my

(26:28):
mom didn't get to graduate, she didn't finish her studies to
come over here, you know. Next to the u.s. to the u.s.
Yeah. And a my cap, I was going to
Right. How's it going to write?
I don't even go here but my, my mom and Laura didn't let me
write. That always reminds me.

(26:50):
I think another reason why I didn't want to do it.
I think covid had already happened.
Oh, they transferred. I think.
No. Yeah.
For 2021 with my first semester at Long Beach.
Which is where I went. I remember.
I don't even remember. If I mentioned it, I didn't
know. Yeah, you do.
I did. Yeah.

(27:11):
Covid had just started. It was terrible.
Yeah, that transition was hard. Yeah, I mean I have to go
through that. Yeah I know I like I graduated
like a year and a half before. So or two years before and then
once I got my career job, my oldcareer job, I graduated and

(27:36):
Yeah, that's one of the things that they don't tell you like
about like registration. Oh yeah, applying to graduate
all these things like yeah to us, it's probably minimal in
terms of graduating from Lake Community College, but like you
have more to say in an interview, you have more to say

(27:57):
to interview because know about you gotta suck yourself.
Yeah, you gotta sell yourself. Did you guys do?
Did you guys have like because the school year where I think
I'm obviously it was College of Business.
Did you guys have like your own counselors and stuff?
Yeah, because because for us that long and they require you

(28:18):
to at least meet up I think onceI'm not sure if it's once or
twice, I do it twice. I do it once to see like where
I'm at. And then the other one is to
confirm my classes like and hereI also advises me because he
used to go there. So he was like, oh I don't
suggest you take this class withthis class because they both
have a lot of homework stuff like that.

(28:40):
But yeah, they require us to take those two and that get I
guess at the same time, they kind of tell you oh, like you
should start applying to graduation.
This kind of like mentors and Yeah.
Yeah they are. They are that's another thing.
I you know how you could. What is it where you can see, is
the professor's easier. Not all right, my professor, so

(29:03):
once once after my first year, Istopped doing that.
Oh to see who was easy, because I was like in real life.
People are going to tell me like, oh, this is easy or
decision. It's either going to come at me
hard, like hard. Like it's going to be a hard
situation. I'm going to have to deal with
it. Or it's going to be easy and
it's going to be whatever, but Iwas just like, I don't care if

(29:25):
the professor's hard or not. I'm just going to take it.
Because in real life, that's notgonna happen.
Like oh, this is, this is hard. Okay, I'm going to avoid that,
but you can't take any V now, write my employers open glass

(29:46):
door. No, I have no idea glass open.
It's like website. It's a website where you can see
where you can see like the company and how it like the
workforce and then people like sometimes bash on like, don't
work at this plant because yeah,because manager Ashley is the
worst and she does this and blahblah blah and I think it's like

(30:09):
Open Door. Yeah.
So there is there's like a Rate My Professor for employers.
Yeah. Yeah.
With me like I think it was likea year or two ago because the I
stopped using it. Cuz I mean by then I guess I'm
I'm pretty good at making friends.
So now my friends that I had friends that were like in this
that we're seeing, hold up, holdup.

(30:30):
That's one thing everybody should do that.
That is going to go to college, or is in college right now.
You guys are not friends Networkbecause I know right now it's, I
mean not right now but like I know it's a thing where like, I
just go sit down and eat. I'm studying away tonight.

(31:29):
Obviously my last year at Cal State l.a. camera was up the
street. It like this restaurants, there
and stuff and like I would just go to the cafeteria with a
minute. Yes, is right there.

(31:50):
Eat Panda or Sbarro's and stuff,but like until my last year and
that's why I like, I'm like, made friends with other people.
They're like, all these cool here.
I was like, what so yeah. Dirty Dog.
You all this stuff, otherwise? Fine.
Yeah, so that's another benefit aside from like, you know, going
out to like this show, you places where like, dang.

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I didn't know this existed. Oh yeah.
Yeah, the speaking of which income in college, I've made a
lot of Asian friends. You shut out to that?
Yeah. They talked to these chopsticks.

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But yeah, that's what that's that's how three different
college experience experience isright there.
Yeah, but yeah, that is important though like making
networking networking. I sadly didn't make any friends,
what not any friends? But, like, close friends.
I didn't have any clothes, but thank God.

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I mean, I didn't need the networking.
I got a job right, but still like, I don't know.
I was like, I probably would have enjoyed my Michael.
Yeah, you're enjoying more. Yeah, yeah.
You instead of like sitting alone eating Panda?
Yes. Sometimes you feel like, like,

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I'm honestly like an introvert but like, but I'm pretty sure
it's not. Like, I'm like, oh, nobody talk
to me but I'm not like one to goup and when to go up.
Yeah. Guess that was a factor for me
because I mean people call me anextrovert.
I don't want to say, I'm an extrovert, I guess.

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I'm pretty good at making friends.
Yeah, you are but it comes to There's like a boundary that you
shouldn't really pass because I study with friends.
The only downside about that is that there are some friends.
I have probably just passed an exam and they have nothing to
do. And since you guys do sit
together and stuff and you're worrying about an exam, this
would happen to me a lot like it'll come to a point.

(34:25):
Like dude can you like not distract me for a little bit or
sometimes they come to a point where I'd go to the library by
myself? And then ask me?
Oh, where you're at? We're going to go eat and like,
no, I have to study for this exam.
Okay. You also kind of have to know
how to To set a line for yourself to be like, that's
fine. But I have priorities, I have to
do this to worry about this and then also let me not to I'm not

(34:47):
bragging or anything but like when I don't know what's after
calculus, but that class. So that's after calculus, I was
taking it and then some I think she was older and I was in the
math study hall or whatever that's called and like I was
just doing it. I was just studying for the exam
and then she kept on, bugging mefor like help.

(35:08):
And like I would help her like Iwould explain to her and then
she will keep on asking me and I'm just like, yo, like I'm
trying to study to, you know, like at least to the the ones
that I don't understand. I'm trying to study that and
she's like, asking questions that like I already knew and
stuff and just like you're holding me back.
And I think I like not. I didn't snap on her, but I
answered all like a strong tone of voice and then she just

(35:30):
stopped asking question, but I felt bad.
But yeah, there's sometimes likeyou're like, yeah I gotta, I
gotta work. Yeah.
Yeah, you got to put it because she's not going to take the test
for you. So that's true or they're not.
That's true. But you took business calc?
Yeah. Yeah.

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That was hard for me. Yeah.
Yeah. That was really hard for me.
I struggled with that isn't cockbands.
On calculus one. Like we do.
Like, no. Yes, you do.
Yeah. So, and then my professor is
Mexican. So all my four legs, so he was
little, it was a little hard on,not on me but like, I guess

(36:17):
because we're both Mexican and there's just like, Asians and
Hindu people there, right? And like he was like, You got to
do this but you got to actually try to Sean Professor.
I don't want to say Mexican because you looked a little

(36:38):
Annoying. I knew mine was my, I can't
remember, I can't my brain can go that far back, but he did
have a huge accent dude languagewhen it was time for derivatives
or something, he'd be like, oh you get the derivative of this.

(37:06):
In calculus and he would like right on, like do the problem.
And then he was like, he wouldn't even, like leave it.
I'm like, you should you like I was like you should strategize,
you should like use have to board to like do one and then
move on to half The Other Board.The other half of the board and
do the other one while we still copy them and then he would say
he was Asian. So he would say no fence like

(37:26):
agent. Trying to be racist or anything,
but instead of saying like eight, he would say like egg.
Yeah, I mean, that does it, would you do like drawing a
girl, would be like, what? He's like 80 and then he was
like, great. Yeah, Hispanic Asian with the.

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And this, this professor, he knew.
Found it easy and he's like, no,you gotta try harder, like gotta
put more effort and I was like, I guess I was like, how about
you show me how to count cards instead and I go to Vegas and or
wherever they do card games and I would but you gotta have more

(38:16):
money than the house and I was like, oh and you got to be
willing to lose and I was like, all right?
And but yeah but The that what Iwould advise to other like,
people are about to study. Is do something as challenging

(38:39):
something that's like, out of your comfort level because, you
know, I went through that, I liked math and accounting like
that was easy. So, I don't want to do it.
But then, I mean, I really like marketing and all that stuff,
but Brian brought it up. When I was about to graduate, I
was like, I was whatever. He's all because you're not
being challenged and I'll just like, that's right.

(39:04):
You're right. But it was already not too late.
Eight, you know, but I was like already about to graduate and
stuff. And yeah, that's what I would
advise, like, do something that's challenging.
Obviously, not something that's going to over, do it for you,
but it's just like, okay, if math is like, I could do math,
but it's a little bit harder, you know, doing.

(39:29):
I think I would read Vice what, and I think Eric's a prime
example right now. He didn't know what he was
doing. So, go to Community College.
Take those classes at your, I guess, kind of Interest.
There's no, because Because it'salso affordable for anyone else
afford to do that. Because in four year university
you're really like, yeah, I haveno wiggle room to play around.

(39:51):
Yeah. You average like what?
Like, three hundred and something dollars a year and it
would? Yeah. 8000 M.
Yeah, of course. Compared to Community College.
Yeah, my time I remember it was only like silver dollars for
like 12 to 15 years ago there, you see.
So you have more wiggle room to,to, to broaden to I brought in.

(40:13):
Yeah, because I took and Community College, I took on
What's that science class? No within measure like
earthquakes and stuff and all that?
I don't know, I didn't have to take that because I had to
geology geology. Hey, I took it for the heck of
it, I liked it, I liked it. It was cool, like, the tectonic

(40:36):
plates and this is why this moves like this in California is
gonna fall into a hole and I waslike, I don't think I want to be
a professor and like that's one thing, you know, they're like
search the job fields. Of that subject that you want to
study, you know, because I will get into the questions right now

(40:59):
in terms of advice and stuff because we do have some
questions and like the college Iguess College Community and that
community colleges there's like a stigma like yeah.
And that comes back to the oh yeah we'll go to the what has
been the most challenging thing about going to school / career

(41:21):
will do that amount. It's challenging.
Procrastinating. Dude.
Oh yeah. I was always a bad
procrastinator right now. I do see myself improving a lot.
Thanks for my friends because sometimes like I do be running
tangent stuff and then I go. Don't you have it examined like
no like everything here. If you have time you find

(42:00):
yourself something, you're doingsomething for yourself in the
future, it's an investment. If you're not investing your
time. I don't know, I forgot I was
going to go with that. Invest your time in the rice.
Time is money. Time is money.

(42:20):
They go. Yeah.
And what's another one for you guys?
I I didn't really have a tough time, only one class and that
class I did fail. That's the one, the only class I
failed, there's no excuse for that but it was a four-hour
class once a week and it was programming with over a computer

(42:41):
programming with. What is it?
What's that program Java, Java, JavaScript, and it was four
hours, and you have a break? No.
Oh and like everybody around me.There's only like 10 other
people because it was a night class and the on you already
programming. I didn't know.

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And supposedly this was a intro to programming.
Yeah. No.
Well, most programmers, are thataspired to be program?
Is already like take you to classes or like, they're really
into that they're already in there.
The really talking like, oh, okay.
And then when I figured out likea problem that the gas, and
then, so I got the bait like very basic of it.

(43:25):
And then when it got more complicated, I was just like,
like Boolean and then I figured it out, right?
I figured out the algorithm, whatever to type and then
suddenly move on to the next problem, and I can't figure this
aren't ya. It just broke it.
Just broke me. It just broke me because I took
an hour and a half to figure this out.

(43:45):
Out, you know, because it was like a comma that I had to put.
That's what that's what it does.Like if you put a comma
somewhere where there's in supposed to be it's not going to
equations, not going to work foryou and I just stopped.
I was like you know I'm not going to go, I can't I can't I
can't drop it because then I have to pay more and then I was

(44:08):
like I'm just gonna go and I didn't go and I felt it.
Yeah. The only class I've ever felt
and I was taking that class. It's because you could have a
castle, a castle early at that time, you could double major.
I just had to take three Java three computer classes.
So I was going to major in computer science and major in

(44:30):
marketing, okay? And then I was like, if the
other, this is the only class that I could take to.
That are part of the three. I was like, nah.
And then like, I didn't know anybody, you know, I didn't know
anybody to ask because I read the book.
Book and the book doesn't help either like that's something you
had to do it. Physically, actually or practice

(44:50):
practice and do it and, you know, trial and error trial and
error. But I didn't have enough time to
be 12. Mary, no, you're right, so so
yeah, that I guess that's the only time and in terms of
career, I guess just managing people, you know, like dealing

(45:12):
with people, I used to hate people.
Like I didn't like people at allbecause people are like dumb and
like this is stronger, did you dislike?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I just like people, you
know, just cause they're people like having to conversate with,

(45:34):
like, my colleague and like, have to having to go through
that whole like building rapportwith them and stuff but it's
like in Fresh Prince. He's finished.
Yeah it's not what you know, it's who you know and my old job

(45:56):
the kind of life that way. Yeah yeah like I kind of was
true because I had to be more approachable in order for me to
move up. I had to like make myself be
more professional. For me, too for managers and
things like that to or upper management.

(46:17):
I saw I'm sorry to look at me and be like oh yeah, he could be
the next person or he could do this and that and then yeah,
just drawing that line to like oh, we could be cool and stuff.
That's one thing we could be cool.
But drawing that line like this,still a professional environment

(46:39):
because that person is not goingto But themselves aside to get
ahead of you. Or if it comes down to the wire
like they're not going to put themselves or their job above
you. Well, they are going to do it.
I mean they are going to put it above you, they're not going to
put you above their job themselves.

(47:00):
Yeah, at the end of the day, it's a competition everything.
Not everyone connected to the top and yeah in the whole thing
like the whole it's who, you know, it's kind of is true
because like there was a person that That kept on applying to be
a team leader, my old job. And they weren't getting it like
now. No no no.
And then the next person, the next manager, then you do the

(47:23):
team lead. I was cool with them and then
they didn't ask me. I just thought I was like you
should go with that. I'm like they're cool.
I know it seems like they're this and that, but they actually
do their work and they care about, you know, they couldn't,
you know, I just gave him a whole thing and next, you know,

(47:44):
like, They got the job, you know?
Yeah. Because at that time I was
already like an expert at my job.
Like I know it like the back of my head, you know, and managers
were come to me for help on certain situations because I
knew how to do it and because they didn't practice this.

(48:08):
So I need like help their their teams stuff and yeah and they
won't stay. Interviewed the they got that
person. They got that job.
Yeah. And I'm like I really is like
who, you know? Know know.
Yeah. Yeah.
So yeah. Those are the kind of like, the
tough situations. Yeah.

(48:29):
You know, I'm sure you know and also life I have, you know what?
Like I mentioned earlier. You know a lot of people apply
and go to school in the fall. But then you'll see that in the
spring. It's a lot less.
Yeah, because of like, yeah, I'mlike, Whatever it is, you know,
but you just got to keep on going, honestly?
Yeah, that's one thing. Just got a big tournament.

(48:51):
Yeah, yeah. Like goes back to that whole, I
started this and I'm gonna finish it, you know.
Yeah, I think my Tufts was like,I took a Java class to and it
was because because I had a, it was like, my last to my last
semester. And, and I had a take another

(49:11):
class to be considered full time, right?
So I was like, oh, I'm take thisJava class.
Kathy, and it might be easy whenno, it was not easy.
So I dropped it because I was like, I'm not doing that and it
was the same like like trial anderror and like a comma and a
period like if I didn't put that.
So yeah that was in my thing andthen like working on a pre calc

(49:33):
I'm precalc business calc that was hard too.
And and working, like Eric said,procrastination work, because
we're working and going to school is really hard.
So I had to do that and like, using my time wisely.
Yeah, I'm not procrastinating. There's also a discipline, dude.
Yeah, it's something you have tolike, like, even though you

(49:57):
don't feel like doing it, you have it.
So you have to realize, it's something you have to do.
And it was an interest not like school and work, right?
It will I work part-time, but itwas like church and then family,
and then try to go to the gym and try to clean and you try to
like, yeah, it's harder to live.As you get further on in your

(50:20):
career, they gets harder. You know because you just think
about time just like so I guess balance right.
Just balancing. Everything was like really hard.
Yeah, yeah. I think so too.
I agree. Just balancing.
Putting that that like having that discipline to put in that
time but then also don't don't like overwork yourself because

(50:42):
there's a you can only handle somuch.
Like I remember I would have to do like all-nighters not because
of procrastination, but the workload like it'd be so much to
like there was so much to study and sometimes there were there
were times where I've had like let's say I had an what was I
going to say? Like if I had a final at 8:00 in

(51:04):
the morning, And that night before I did an all-nighter by
the time 8:00 in the morning. I was by the time I was 8 in the
morning. I was like tired sleepy.
I couldn't I couldn't really seeit was blurry.
Don't overwork yourself. Don't like this, there's no that
order to like pause to stop and then, you know, I know that's

(51:25):
hard to do. I know it's easier said than
done. But I will point you just gotta
Just stop and like, all right? Because they have time to hell
too. Yeah, mental health.
Like you said, like, you're getting dizzy or your eyes were
blurry, your vision was very like, all right?
You got to chill for a little bit, you know, we start give
your mind that restarting took anap and we start take a nap.

(51:49):
Yeah. Oh, I always took naps to.
I'm like right in your car from the car.
Some really good naps in the carand you feel well yeah, yeah,
there were times where I would always I want to thank you and

(52:14):
sometimes I feel bad too becauseme and Doris commute to Long
Beach and the thing with these four, with these 400 level
classes, they're all late. Because all the workers, all the
workers, all the professors are working during the day.
And then right after work, they come over here and that's true.
No life is crazy because I had aprofessor that would drive from

(52:36):
San Diego to Cafe. Au Lait and teacher my class.
Yeah. But they would.
Yeah, they would God. It's like they would be here.
Like I would have my late classes with a finish at 10.
So dory's had to being like a pillow shot Outdoors.
Yeah. Shut up.
The doors. Thank you for your patience, for
supporting your brother, for reals, so that I think that's

(52:59):
important you we all communicate.
Muted right? Yeah I don't know what
commitment until like I had to come till afterwards.
Yeah. So I guess like some myths is
that you don't have to you don'thave to dorm it's an extra cost.
Like it's a question myths aboutcollege.

(53:20):
Yeah I think like you don't haveto dorm, it's not necessary.
I wanted to just because I wanted to experience but I think
my parents you know my parents wouldn't let me dorm.
But still like, I don't think I really missed out on his knee.
Another myth, you know, we're talking about going to Community

(53:40):
College you know Heist a lot of high schools say like oh no go
straight to a four-year because you get lazy.
Yada yada know the financial wise like bro, a lot of people
in the summer go to Community College to take those GE classes
so they don't have to pay and doit at a four-year University,
you know. So it's not because you're dumb.

(54:01):
Yeah, it's not because you didn't get accepted even if you
didn't get accepted. That doesn't matter, bro.
Go to Community College, just golike, you know, at the end of
the day, the person next to you is probably has a different,
like, Wait, they had a differentpath that got there, you know,
that's what I noticed. A counselor, you know, because

(54:22):
that's another myth, like your, you have to be young to go to
school. I know, I had an older like lady
next to me, like at a my business classes and he Kang and
she was old and she's taking those classes.
Yeah. And I was like, how old like 60
or know? She's probably like probably
like 45 and stuff. Yeah, around that around that

(54:46):
age. And I have my fair share of
classmates. I was about to say friends, but
no, I had this classmate who waslike, I think he was like 55.
Yeah, I think his name was Frank.
Pretty white, dude, my way to Santa Claus.
He worked in construction. He was an operator.

(55:07):
And then he said that for the last of, for the rest of his
working time, I guess. Cuz I guess he still had liked
it like 10 years left of him andhe realized he couldn't do as
much as he was when he was in his prime.
But he wanted to be like he wanted.
He wanted to taste of what it was like to be a civil engineer.
Okay. And he has experience.

(55:28):
He has what? Dang near like?
Like 30 years already. So he's he's there.
Yeah, he's said already. It is just something else.
He wants to do like a like a, I don't know.
Abu Dhabi, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. because

(55:50):
there is this guy an African-American and I'm saying
African-American for a reason soAfrican-American like I'm
telling you his race for a reason he retired he was in my
marketing class he retired and then they're like oh you know
like ice breaker where they tellyou like what's your name,
what's your major and whatever and then he's like when it what

(56:12):
I aspire to be he's like well I just retired and I applied for
this African American scholarship and they gave it to
me. So I'm just here because I'm
bored. They've dropped out and started
again. Yeah.
You know. And so that's why all these

(56:33):
things that high school counselors or people telling ya
like about Community College, bro, everybody has a different
path. You're going to see yourself
that you busted your butt off ina high school setting.
Next to somebody that didn't care about high school, exactly,
only graduated and you're in thesame boat, you know, and in
terms of like, where you're at, no, because everybody has a

(56:56):
different path, how to get there.
Once you go to, once you get your career job, you'll see
people that don't even go to college, you know, and their
upper management, and they make more like twice, more much more
than you. The one thing for sure, in
regards to anybody, You always going to have to start at the
bottom. Yeah, those are getting work

(57:17):
your way up. That's the thing I like about
anything about about any any career, you always going to
start at the bottom. It's not like you're gonna be
like CEO or golfing with the CEOs and stuff like that, you
know, it from the bus here. Yeah, that's another thing.
Like for sure, internships are important, you know, and

(57:40):
experience and experience is really hard, you know?
like it's crazy because Google Sutter like giving internships
to people who didn't graduate and stuff and like you just
applied And you only are, I don't know if it was a paid
position. It was a paid position but I
don't know about what they're one of the requirements for

(58:02):
sure. Was that you couldn't have a
college degree. What?
Yeah. Because they wanted diverse
davers know because like the waylike school is oh no they tell
you it's like this, you know it's like this straight line.
We what happens if you just say like no, I don't have a college
degree. Do they like look you up?

(58:23):
I'm sure they look yeah. That's all public records to I
guess. But you know, and I sent that
link to one of our friends and they completely forgot about it
and didn't apply and and also, you know, advice you know, look
for an internship right now before, you know, because that's
hard time. Yeah.
Part-time job. You know, if you have one of

(58:45):
those friends to that tell you these things listen to them, you
know. no because there would have been through that, take it
from me, I didn't go to Community College and I write I
do regretfully I mean financially to and time wise, I
think I didn't know what to do and I think I would have
benefited from like oh I actually did go in summer before

(59:07):
going. I took a fashion class and I
really enjoyed it but then I waslike, well I'm stuck going to
Cal Poly. Yeah it is what it is.
And if you know already or like out of high school if you
already know then just go to that to that college that's a
you know, Focus. You know, because Casserly at
that time there were there's only five percent Accredited

(59:28):
schools from the United States and Casa de la was one of them
the business. So that's why they were all hard
and like Finance was all all of that, all of that.
But yeah, like if you already know, then by all means.
Yeah. Shoot for the stars or aim for
the Stars, whatever they say. But yeah, if you don't know,

(59:51):
just go to Community College andtake a whole bunch of classes or
classes that you're interested in like, Did try to take a
fashion class, like I said early, they didn't have a
fashion degree or anything like that or some type of degree, but
it was already too late. I would have been a super senior
all that stuff and I was like, all right this is getting too
complicated. Yeah, yeah I did look into it.

(01:00:13):
I would take me like I had to like none of my classes business
classes aligned with the fashionand it was Matt fashion
merchandising, which I find it funny because like merchandise
in this kind of business related.
But but yeah, I had to take it was like Again, doing two hours.
I mean two years again. So like nah, I'm eager to create
that leads to our next question.What are some careers you would

(01:00:37):
tell us to avoid? Not not downplaying anything?
Yes. At all, you know, any job at
all? You know?
Because any job is, you know, I'm glad you have a job, you
know? All right.
Careers like, or like degrees because I feel like I think any
job is that's honest. Right?
Is okay. Right in terms of schooling like

(01:01:00):
subjects, I know history. I love history but I would avoid
history in a way, you know, justbecause like that job like that
job field is very small. It is more competitive because
it's small. I know every job field is
competitive but it's just like if I don't get a job in history

(01:01:20):
like what am I gonna do or like it's not really brought home.
Yeah. Or like, Archaeology, I can
there's like something random because you could, you could, I
guess in archaeology, like things like that, you could like
go to a college and be an archaeologist and do research,
right? But then again that's also hard

(01:01:42):
to guess who, you know, as well with my friends with medical
field. Like she always advice is not to
not to study that you know medical yeah like doctors and
stuff. Doctors nurses, doctors nurses

(01:02:04):
and try to work my job because like, it's like black but me to
each their own, really go ahead.Well, I don't want to downplay
any major but I would I would push like for example with my
cousin Oscar I would always pushfor stem because Well with them

(01:02:27):
like in order to be I guess successful in stem is like
because obviously everyone is creative but this time you
actually you're putting create creativity for him, anything
you're putting creativity for like, like, for me, I'm doing it
for four people, you know? Like I'm I'll be, I'll be

(01:02:50):
designing whatever it is. I have to design for is going to
be for the sole purpose of Of civilization for clinical
populations like Parks? Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
That's like that. So you can be like a city
planner. Yeah.
That's like. So there's a, there's a part of

(01:03:14):
my major where they do like I think recreational parks like
that, that falls in like, sustainability kind of stuff.
That's pretty cool. Yeah, that's tight and if you
ever need to Chose your field and you saw somebody else, you
know, like, let's say, engineering, right or civil
engineer, you know? And that's cool.

(01:03:36):
It really is. But that's how it is with
everything, you know. Don't compare yourself or your
career to somebody else's careerbecause it's different.
Yeah, it's also compatible. Yeah, and it's also of like
Things are nice until you start comparing them.
All right, so you got to enjoy what you have and what you do.

(01:03:59):
That's what the Bible says. Yeah.
And not because yeah I like I wish I could do that.
I wish I was like a architect you know or but then I also look
like at history, you know, that's how I was like through
this super cool, you know. So it's always like there's
always going to be something, you know, but I enjoy what I do
and you know, I get paid. Yeah.

(01:04:21):
Obviously I wish I could be something else.
I wish I could be rich and not work you know but that's not how
it is. But yeah that leads to our next
question. What are you guys is idea ideal
jobs and the dream jobs And yourJohnson.

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I mean if I can't work and stillget paid, I'll be happy.
That's your dream job not working but working, hmm.
I don't know, I feel Eric already has his answer.
Well, with me with some engineering, I love designing, I

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would always love to be on the computer and be like, like,
okay, so I have this structure and then later on, in a couple
is going to be is going to take years but then it would be
nothing. Actually, it'd be nice.
You willing to wait, you're not wait but you know I mean there's
gonna be deadlines. Yeah, but like the end result.
And you like let's say you passed by one day with with like

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a family and your family, with your family, with your family.
Be like yes. Yes.
Like for example imagine yeah. That's prideful.

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And then well not not paid for no, no, no.
I think creative director. yeah,cuz I enjoy like marketing.

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I enjoy working with people likeas a team and putting putting
two people together bike and getthis idea out because like, like
a realize like, you know, if Eric has an idea and I could
help make it better by adding something to it or make it

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easier, you know, I'm just goingto suggest it and it'll work
out. Out and like that has happened
like in my group projects and myold job how like they had to set
plan and then I was like, what if you at this?
Because you're missing this and these people aren't getting
trained properly because of thisand this and that, you know, and

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yeah and in to be a creative director I mean, in any field
you have to be an expert but it's just like I could get a
designer to do this because they're an expert and they know
like they can think my idea comecome true or make it better or
there's an idea like how I'm going to make it better you know

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you know it's just like the stickers and all those posters
that I've made. Yeah.
And it's true. Yeah.
And and it's just a collab. This is a collab between
everybody and I really enjoy that, you know. like, with the
Chosen generation Instagram. Yeah, you know like that's all
sir collab. Like they're like oh hey what do

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you think about this or what do you think about this picture?
I was like oh what if you do this and that you know, or what
about you name it this instead and they're like oh that's a
good idea. Like yeah like and we build off
of each other that's what and I see that now, like more with
because Pharrell is creative director at Louis Vuitton, okay.

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And he's not a fashion designer like you to go to school for
fashion design and he just brings people who he knows that
you just reminded me of that other podcast with Kanye when he
like I like some of the god thatsongs Lady Gaga, that's more of

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a marketing marketing strategy. Because they're like, oh we're
going to get all the Gaga fans to buy Polaroid's you know and
they're like it has her any money?
Yeah. Because Gaga fans are loyal,
right. Yeah.
So you see that's what it was back to like that marketing
thing. It's a PR thing where like,

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yeah, engineering is cool. Counting is cool and stuff but
the marketing team is on that's going to Put the idea in.
Yeah, and so at this product is cell and you know, like yeah,
you have the budget, but the marketing team is going to learn
that at the end of day, not havethe same but, you know, we got

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to do this so we can sell it. Yeah.
And that's why they get Lady Gaga to be creative director.
At Polaroid Pharrell to be pretty creative director, at
Louis Vuitton, to get all those people to buy into their That
way, I could be in a creative director.

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I think that would be my dream job.
That's pretty cool. Because know, if you're way up
there though. Where are you?
I think, I don't know. I don't know if I have a dream
job but I think what I would like is fired to be as be part
of like something. I don't know, like for like for

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charity, like maybe work for a non-profit.
I've always been good at like administer administering and
like, you know, organizing and stuff.
So, I think I would want to like, put my skills to like, a
nonprofit that benefits, like, Idon't know, cancer, or that
benefits like, like, people in need I'd like that although I'm
not really, you know, giving food or, you know, doing

(01:10:24):
research to find a cure for cancer, right?
But my my skills I'm getting putto like, I don't know to like be
part of something bigger, right?So I think I don't know, just
like doing that. And yeah, I mean being part of
an organization that helps helpsthose in need and I've always
something like something that I've always wanted kind of do is

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like be a fitness instructor or like Zumba.
He just cycling class or like I don't know that's always been
kind of like I don't think I Do It full time maybe you know, in
the future but I think like maybe the resin for the church.
I mean that would be helpful. Yeah, that's a good way.
You know, that would be a good way into that whole like helping

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others. Like you guys got the parking
for that day. Like maybe teach a spin class at
twice a week or something and itjust gets bigger and bigger.
You know that is that's super cool.
Yeah you know you remind me of Ikind of started looking into
getting a master's kind of you know just because the money-wise
and things like that and time you know because oh I'm back on

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my 11:00 a.m. 8:00 p.m. scheduleso it sucks.
But I mean I guess I got a thug it out for a bit to get a
schedule change. But yeah, I said looking into
masters of Nonprofit okay. Yeah, so okay, excuse me, I have

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stood idly, you will see. Oh, you are see ya, see ya, they
offer? Yeah.
They offer a master's in nonprofit organization and I was
just like, you know, just because it goes back, you know,
I Wish I Was An Architect, so I could help with that wet at
church, right, because the need Architects and stuff.
You know, if somebody would havetold me 15 years ago, 16 years

(01:12:17):
ago like hey, When you're when it's 2022, we're going to need
Architects, you know? And I mean I could go back and
study architect but it's just like the time wise you know like
we need one now. Yes it's not like the time
you're done. There are probably a pretty blue
whatever they need to do. I don't have build Legos and
stuff so just so I could help out like that, in that sense.

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You know, broaden my knowledge and in non-profit organizations,
but it just goes back to like financial and like time but and
then like, like you said, I knowwe just said that although it's
never too late to go back to score or that, but I'm like,
man, I'm like getting old. Yeah, it's because of the

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lifestyle, just because of the lifestyle is just like, liking
what your case, you're married already.
Yeah. So you're going to have time
with your, with your husband Youwith you booboo, you know and
then like whatever you want to take care of other things so
they're just goes back to that balance and time management, you
know. But yeah I did start looking

(01:13:34):
into that just a little bit justa little bit but now I know I
don't work in marketing but you know I'm doing it with with
church and stuff you know. With the Instagram post and
helping Betsy with with all that.

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So and in the finance if you're listening, yeah she's a, she's a
fan and the finance part I help Church to this year.
I got into to that to help them.Because yeah you know putting my

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sky to put my skills to work forthat you know?
Yeah yeah. So I guess I guess you guys can
take some advice college is hardbut you guys can do it.
Yeah definitely it's not impossible.
And if it's too easy for you then you got to find something
that's going to challenge you because then you're going to be,

(01:14:39):
like, college is wack, I mean, Iknow college is not for
everybody. And sometimes you don't need to
go to college, to make money, but to get out foundation in the
core and then, you know, in an interview, you can talk about
that, you know, I know experience counts as well.

(01:14:59):
So, you know, just goes back to selling yourself.
And then if you don't want to know what to do, go to Community
College, I'll take random classes.
Yeah and if you love that, take a second class and then just go
on from there because that that Professor from math.
He's like you got to you got to know a lot about a lot and is

(01:15:21):
true. Like if I want to know like how
to Market and stuff, I got to know a lot about people product,
pricing placement, all that. So you know, the 3p Peace.
Well I learned about that. Yeah, that's like one of the
first things you learned and there was this like Foreigner in
that class that I one of them working glasses.

(01:15:42):
He was a jerk like he was a jerkand he was a jerk to the
teacher. Like he thought he knew more
than the teacher. Oh Professor, which if you do,
okay, that's cool. I just write the class out like
this and then and then inverselythere's professors are like,
come on. Yes, yes.

(01:16:31):
Women. But he was an older guy and the,
and yeah. And it's also a woman Professor.
I was like, bro, you don't speakto?
Yeah, he's being misogynist. Yeah, and he said something, I
don't know what he said. It was a long time ago, but the
even the professor was just likewhat?

(01:16:51):
And I was like, nah, you're wrong.
Like I never talk out loud and Iwas like, no, you're wrong.
It's this way. And I explained it and then like
he just shut up and just so turned turned around and
Saturday a little desk and stuff.
But normally I don't say anything.
But that time I did get annoyed and says something.
Yeah, because he was wrong, whatever.

(01:17:13):
I forgot, whatever topic were talking about.
And I was also yet like hello young so you know, when you're
young, you think, you do whatever you want?
Yeah. So that's why I just like, but
yeah, you'll come across those people who come across.
I had my fair share, so be aware.
Like, this is, like, be aware these type of people, because

(01:17:34):
they don't like teachers in highschool.
Don't tell you about this. But, and everywhere, not just
College. Where were at the store?
Go ahead at Costco. Yeah, I had Fair.
Share about that, too. Because this is, this is class.
I took last time. No.
Dang last semester was like herethat I would say, the class is

(01:17:57):
called a structure analysis. So basically, it's like, oh, how
much lower can this column Carrie?
Yeah, I kind of stuff, but I'm not going to get to that.
So yeah, there was a time where I was, I was I think I was sick
and it was like two weeks beforean exam.
And so like I was kind of studying even though I was sick
and then some some of my classmates wanted to study, and

(01:18:20):
then I showed up and then they're like, oh like I had, I
had this one problem that I couldn't figure out there.
Like, oh, you haven't done that yet.
We did that two weeks ago. Isn't that like, he sounded
really like Like pushy, you're like, yeah, this is why you
should have came to. I was going to take him to
church. No, no, this is why you should
have came to class because the professor explained it.

(01:18:41):
Well and then all the oil they can.
I see your notes so I can understand it.
Who like no? Wow.
Oh my God, I mean, when I still did my thing, I read the book.
I was kind of I did what I had to do.
And then the scores for that test came back.
And I was one of three people that got 100%.
That's right wing guy. Yeah.

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And he was like, are you gettingHow did you get this?
How do you get in 100%? And if you didn't show up to
class for those two weeks, and Iwould like, I still did, I did
what you did in after class? Yeah, during the so studying,
there are people like that and, like, I'm jealous people like,
why'd you get a better grade than me?
And I'm like, yeah, there was one guy like, dude, chill out

(01:19:24):
like my last class. It's like a commutative.
Communitive something like basically they run this game.
Yeah, right. And you run The simulation
simulation? Yeah, yeah.
They put everybody Finance accounting, econ marketing,
whatever else business in that class, right?

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So I took the trash one of each And I got stuck with a bunch of
bunch of Finance. I think that whole class was
just Finance and Accounting. Oh, they didn't choose you.
Like and like the professor didn't?
Yeah. So he put us here.
She put us in a group and I was with the valedictorian, Dane 4.8

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GPA or something like that. No son and his friend.
He was also in finance and then some I mean like tomorrow
counting people and I was only marking one.
So all four of them thought theywere smarter than me because
because Mac I was in marketing and they were in the math.

(01:20:28):
Part of business and finance people.
Think they're all the yeah. I was like dude it's just logic
like and that honor. Yeah, we the first week we had a
read a book or something on business and then the week after
that, we had the exam and I go meet up with them like it was a

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Sunday. Afternoon at a class because we
had a plan for the for the simulations and then I didn't
know that the grades were out and he's all would you fail,
like one of the finance, guys? I'm like.
And then I was like, nah, the grades are out and then for
whatever reason I sought 37. He's a hot 37, you got 37, and I

(01:21:10):
was like, I guess and then some girls like oh no you reading the
wrong. It's right here and I got 98 a
day and I got the highest the the valedictorian.
He got like a 70 and then everybody else got below below.
The guy that was like, calling me.

(01:21:30):
I like making fun of me, he had the lowest score, he's the one
that got the D and that exam andthen the valedictorian.
No, no, the other one, the good thing that's about and then so
there is exam that we had no midterm where You were given a
business. You had analyzed and write down

(01:21:52):
everything and somebody cheated,oh, I don't know, like it was an
open book to so like you had or you can bring your own nudes,
but I think they copied word-for-word on some internet
site or something and that same guy that was making fun of me.
Was like, it was you, huh, what am I gonna say anything?

(01:22:14):
I'll just like, I didn't like myhand.
Like this guy has something against me.
He's in finance, and I'm in marketing.
Like, we're both Mexican likes. It's not like race or anything
like that. And this was after the 98% that
I got an exam. And on that one, I still got an
A on that exam and I was like, nah.

(01:22:37):
And it turns out it was there buddy because they're all
friends. It was there, buddy.
It was a girl, which was the second-highest.
She was right below the valedictorian.
She's the one that cheated and she felt the class and I was
like, oh, it wasn't that your friend, you know, is this your

(01:22:59):
part of your group your Posh andhe's all yeah, like each other
like, kind of play it off and stuff and then Yeah, so that's
why I like that's why I said you'll find these type of people
at work and also a school so just brush it off.
Don't pay them. No mind everywhere.

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You go. Yeah, just because somebody's a
study to be a doctor or whateveror whatever they're going to
engineering. I don't know if that there's a
subject just Unity people. So you know, brush it off, you
know, and that goes to like everybody that's about to start
work and college. You know, just keep on going,

(01:23:41):
who cares? It's like a plant.
If I put a bunch of plants, different types of plants, there
are going to take their own timeto grow and Bloom, you know, and
there are going to look different and are going to look
different. Even if it's the same avocado
tree, it's going to look different.
I have three of them. So that's why I know.
There are three different kinds of your own avocado.

(01:24:05):
It's just like plants. Like they're not all going to be
the same way. The same branches is the same
thing. And at the same time it takes
their time. And so it also depends on you on
how you how fast you wanted to grow.
Like how often do you water it? How about.
Yeah. You put in the work.
Basically, that's something I used to have like it's like

(01:24:28):
water me and I'll grow and I just true, like, the people
around you, your parents people who influence, you, your sound
like yourself like you know, sometimes you got to get, you
got to get your own water, you know?
Yeah. And Motivate yourself because I
won't Point like your parents are not going to be able to help
you because they don't know thatsubject.
Your friends you're like church friends you know, they don't

(01:24:51):
know that subject. I don't know engineering.
So I can't really help you but you got to find your, you know,
I'll help you. I'll hype you up as much as I
could but you also do it on yourend to.
That's true. Of course.
Yeah, that's something to stick with throughout college career
wise. If you want to get that
position. And, you know, just got To be

(01:25:13):
motivated. You know why you're doing it you
know and it goes back to like networking who you know, right
all these myths about Community College.
I've never bought a book after Irealized like I don't need to
buy a book. I just go to the library and
look at it. That's how I stopped buying
books. Ha ha.

(01:25:34):
Ha videos, PDFs online. Yeah, you know, you books are
much more affordable Yeah, so, so buy e-books by ebooks Coral?
Ivory use your library. Yeah, well, I never used the
library until I went to Cal State LA and I was like, dang,

(01:25:55):
this is how to use a lively, butyeah, it's all, it's all your
self discipline, start somethingand finish it, you know?
Because at that career, like your career, that you want those
jobs that you want, you know, you gotta show What You're Made
Of and also network network. It's important.

(01:26:20):
It's important. Yeah, I mean, Hopefully we
answered your question, guys, and motivated you to like
continue school or go to school high school.
Or if you have any other more like personal questions?
I'm open. I'm open to answer them.
Well I don't I mean if you need help with a math problem I got

(01:26:43):
you are in case our if in case Idon't I'll find it.
I'll find helpful, find a solution Are we can use chat
GPT. Oh yeah.
And their use the report. I used it to do.
You know, it's pretty powerful that it is pretty powerful.
Like, people should like really use that in.

(01:27:04):
Like like, if you want to write like a resume, upload it to chat
GPT and ask it? What opportunities do I have in
this resume? And like in the same thing, like
the same thing. You have your in college and
stuff. Use the same thing to upload
your own upload, all your own essay, your 10-page, essay,
whatever, and put what are the strengths of this essay and what

(01:27:27):
other Tuna, tees. And then it's going to tell you
this and that work on this work on that obviously not you but on
the subject but I don't cheat don't don't treat because it's
that person got caught and she failed that class and then you
get put on academic probation. It's a lot more serious guys and

(01:27:50):
you might not even get your degree.
So don't cheat in college and high school and you reminded me
of academic One of my history teachers.
We had a saying it was a what isthat say before you complete it?
SE before you rough draft. Oh, some guy, some guy in my

(01:28:17):
class and you're basically, but it was a rough draft and the
professor's like either. You drop this class or have to
report this. He dropped the class or he felt
the class and but he's like it was just a rough draft and I
forgot a sighted or something like that.
And I was like damn. Is that serious?

(01:28:37):
Yeah. Crazy. - crazy even homework
guys. You can even get caught.
Like I know it's just homework but and you know there are also
professors out there that try tooutsmart you because there was
this one time I did have a professor who would put like
fake answers on to the monkey one?
Right what is it now I was on check check there you go but

(01:29:02):
there's another one right? Find my answers at Commerce.
Uh-huh there is or like or like he would change variables and
stuff. Yeah, right now.
And I really dealing with numbers this morning variables
and so instead of putting XYZ, he would put ijk or something
like that, and he'd be like, what you use?
Alright. Jay King and people are still

(01:29:23):
gonna answer that. Like so there are some people
that were just like copy and paste, like copy every single
word, every detail. If there was, if there was like
a misspelled, he would they would put the misspelled and
check, guys. It's like for for helping you
not really It's Last Resort. Like if you really don't
understand a question and your limited time it's like the

(01:29:43):
Wikipedia, right? Like you don't you don't cite
things from Wikipedia and this case.
Like you don't just shoot off a check ages.
Use that out like last resort like you said yeah, I'd like to
help you practice but yeah, there's a lot of professors who
outsmart you in And and do put fake answers online just for

(01:30:05):
just to get just to catch you. So don't cheat in college at
all. That is the day you're cheating
yourself. Do your education, your game,
you're paying for it. So don't be don't be wasting
your time like that painting or even if you're not paying for
someone's paying for it girl. I'm talking might be taxpayers

(01:30:28):
tax bearish and guess who's already got any old age has any
hard now. She's always she's always been
an old song. You made it to episode for
careers and school. Super interesting.

(01:30:50):
School is important. Of course, of course, of course.
So go to school, guys. And if it's not for you do
something that's gonna help you better yourself.
Yeah. There's also trade school
courses. Take a course.
If you, if you, if you feel likeyou're intrigued by something,
take course, a class Community College.

(01:31:11):
I was is always the best again, go to Community College.
Hmm, if you can so yeah. Yeah guys.
So that was the end of our episode 4, stay tuned.
I think next. Oh I think our next episode
we're going to have our first guest like a real first guest.
Not a real first guest but not one of us as a guest.

(01:31:34):
And I will talk about, I think what we're going to talk about
college and Sports in college and that episode student
athlete. Yeah.
Student athlete for sure. Yeah.
So that concludes our episode for with Eric and Ash and
myself. Do you have it and Kevin, Kevin
and low Sound Engineering, the background always supporting us.

(01:31:59):
Shout out on Mark. He's in vacation, but he'll be
back. And thanks to all our fans.
Some pretty good. Pretty good.
Pretty good questions. I see you guys.
Thank you guys for listening. See you guys in the next one.
Bye bye. And thanks to all our fans.
Some pretty good. Pretty good.
Pretty good questions. I see you guys.
Thank you guys for listening. See you guys in the next one.
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