A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders

A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders

Every founder has 1 goal: find product-market fit. We interview the world's most successful startup founders on the 0 to 1 part of their journeys. We've had the founders of Reddit, Gusto, Rappi, Glean, Cohere, Huntress, ID.me and many more. We go deep with entrepreneurs & VCs to provide detailed examples you can steal. Our goal is to understand product-market fit better than anyone on the planet. Rated one of the world's top startup podcasts.

Episodes

May 5, 2025 53 mins

Forrest Zeisler spent 6 months hearing “no” from every potential customer he spoke to. One year in, Jobber had just three customers—paying $29/month. Today, Jobber generates over $100M ARR, has raised $180M in VC, and employs nearly 1,000 people.

In this episode, Forrest shares the brutally honest story behind Jobber’s early days: months of rejection, maxing out credit cards, and nearly quitting. You’ll learn why there are rarely an...

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He turned a personal travel tracker into an app with 10 million users and $10 million in revenue, with almost no funding. He reveals how ignoring conventional startup advice—like launching early, chasing revenue, or partnering for growth—was key to their viral success. 

He realized everything growth was about word-of-mouth. So the key to success was obsessing over a single metric: NPS. 

If you’re an early-stage founder deciding where...

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Jordan Boesch started 7shifts as a teenager helping his dad manage restaurant shifts. Today, his software runs scheduling for 50,000 restaurants. This episode dives into how Jordan bootstrapped early growth, why relentless focus on solving real customer pain mattered more than funding, and how tight partnerships supercharged his expansion. 

Jordan also shares hard-won lessons on managing burnout, dealing with near-failure, and creat...

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Wesley turned a simple AI headshot generator into a $10M ARR, profitable company—in just two years.

He was fired from his job, broke in San Francisco, and, after getting rejected by 30 VCs, down to his last few thousand bucks. But Wesley saw a moment: generative AI was taking off, and no one was tackling AI headshots. 

Fast-forward two years, and he’s doing $10M in revenue, profitable, with just 10 employees. He shares every bold tac...

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Mike first raised $30M for a marketplace that never truly had product-market fit. Then he bet only $10K on ButcherBox. A few years later, he's doing $550M in revenue and he's profitable. 

The difference is in his first startup he was just catering to investors— in his second one only to customers. If you’re an early founder chasing growth, listen to how Mike ditched vanity metrics, found sustainable traction, and grew Butc...

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Gopi Rangan has invested in 29 early-stage startups from scratch. He shares a simple but powerful approach to picking the right VCs, structuring your pitch (long-term vision + short-term plan + fuzzy mid-term path), and proving you are the sort of founder every pre-seed investor craves. 

If you’re raising a pre-seed or seed, Gopi’s tips will make your process faster, more targeted, and a lot less painful.

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Cardiologist Jim Min watched too many 50-year-olds die with no heart-attack warning. He co-founded Cleerly to automate detailed coronary scans—no invasive procedures, no endless manual work. 

Yet healthcare’s glacial pace, payers, and federal approvals all stand in his way. 

Hear how he’s testing AI across thousands of patients, fighting for universal insurance coverage, and coping with near-burnouts. If you’re a founder navigating h...

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Adam Robinson once struggled with a stagnant email SaaS stuck at $3M ARR, but he kept experimenting until he found how to solve a problem no one else was tackling—and everything changed. Suddenly, buyers were begging for his identity-based marketing tool—so he spun out Retention.com and grew it to $14M+ in annual profit with no outside funding.

In this episode, Adam reveals why he ignored “scalable hacks” until his product proved un...

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Dan Park joined Clutch when it was selling 20 cars a month. Then he grew it from $20M in 2019 to $200M in sales by 2022. He was one of Canada's fastest growing companies. Just as he was going to close a $100M round, the macro changed completely. Suddenly, he was left with only six weeks of cash. He was forced to go through a 97% down round at a $15M valuation.

Just two years later, he not only grew right back to a $575M valuati...

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Noah Greenberg grew a content-distribution product from zero to $1M ARR in just one year (and to $4M in 2 years) by focusing on a single channel most founders underrate: LinkedIn. He posted insights daily, highlighted key players in his industry, and made it impossible for prospects not to notice him.

In this episode, Noah reveals the exact step-by-step playbook, including how to structure 3-month pilots for fast feedback, craft DMs...

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We break down the real startup playbook: fake users, fake traction, real secondaries. From starting a company with zero customers, to raising millions and launching a VC fund that's built to lose money, Jack shares the blueprint for getting rich (without working hard). 

Forget chasing product-market fit. 

Start chasing growth, money, and, most of all, hype.

Why You Should Listen

  • Why you need to spend most of your time fundrais...
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Wes Bush wrote the original bestseller on Product-Led Growth—and then watched everyone try to copy Dropbox and Slack without truly getting it. Now, he’s here to break down exactly what goes wrong when early-stage founders jump into PLG, how to spot your product’s “million-dollar free problem,” and how to fix the three biggest onboarding gaps that sabotage new users.

He’ll show you why some sales-led companies die when they try freem...

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Jeff Adamson co-founded SkipTheDishes, scaled it to 80% market share, and sold it for $200M—all before Uber Eats and DoorDash even got serious about Canada. He started with zero tech experience, got doors slammed in his face by restaurant owners, and had to personally place orders just to keep early partners engaged. Then, when Uber Eats launched in Toronto, backed by billions in funding, he thought it was over.

Instead, Skip became...

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One of the most common questions I get is 'How do I know if I have product market fit?" Especially when you're in that gray zone where things are kind of working but they're not really taking off yet, how do you know if you have product-market fit or not?

That's exactly what we dive into here. 

Why you should listen:

  • Why demo to close is an excellent leading indicator of PMF.
  • Why NPS is not as good as Sean ...
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Edo Liberty left a high-paying job at AWS—where he was building AI at the highest level—to start Pinecone, a company no one understood. He pitched 40+ VCs, got rejected by every single one, and nearly ran out of money. Then, he flipped the pitch, raised $10M, and built one of the most important infrastructure companies in AI.

Then ChatGPT dropped.

Suddenly, Pinecone was the must-have database for AI apps, with thousands of developers...

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Jon Yoo’s startup wasn’t working. He pivoted mid-YC, spent five brutal weeks without signing a single customer, and then—right after raising his seed round—his co-founder left.

Most startups die right there. 

Instead, Jon figured out how to land massive customers like FiveTran and Snowflake. He grew from $500K to $2M ARR in 6 months. 

Why you should listen:

Navigating a founder breakup – What happens when co-founders split and how to ...

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This is one of the wildest founder journeys you’ll ever hear. Dmitry Gurski went from growing potatoes and picking mushrooms on a farm in Belarus to building Flo—a billion-dollar company with 75M monthly users that dominates the health and fitness category worldwide. He started Flo in a market already controlled by PayPal co-founder Max Levchin’s startup, which had $30M in funding from a16z. Today, Flo is 100x bigger than its once-...

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Saurav started a Groupon-like offering for SMBs in 2011. He quickly learned it wasn't going to work. He and his team pivoted and started driving leads to suppliers using Facebook ads. It worked and they generated revenue—but they were becoming a digital advertising agency. It wasn't at all what they wanted to build.

So they pivoted again.  They used the cash from that business and built Perkbox. The idea was a subscription...

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In 2005 most people didn't even have cellphones yet. Those who did used flip phones. That's when Noah started Olo, a webapp to let people pre-order coffee from nearby shops. Users had to login on web, add a credit card, create pre-made orders and then send a text to a preset number when they wanted to pre-order. It was way, way ahead of its time. 

Noah and his team 7 years to hit $1M in ARR. In the meantime, they raised a ...

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Frankie lost $10K in a crypto transaction—so he started Staging Labs to find a way to help others prevent crypto scams. He was head of an incubator called Entrepreneurship First and had seen dozens and dozens of founders build startups. He knew exactly what to do—and he did everything right. He found a co-founder, built an MVP, did customer discovery, checked willingness to pay—but he still failed.

The world changed when crypto cras...

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