April 28, 2024 • 59 mins
This week on A Voice and Beyond, we welcome Dr. Teri Baydar, a leadership development consultant and Certified Professional Coactive Coach with over 17 years of experience who focuses on guiding C-Suites and high achievers towards personal growth for the greater good. She has worked with various organizations like the Boston Consulting Group, Harvard University, Pfizer, and more. Her expertise lies in transformational thinking and helping clients develop traits like calmness under stress, self-awareness, confidence, authenticity, and emotional intelligence.
Dr. Teri, who is also an inspirational speaker, host of the podcast Paradise Reclaimed Podcast, and emerging author, discusses her book "Flip Your Switch" on today’s show. Dr. Teri provides actionable steps and profound concepts to offer life-changing insights, regardless of where listeners are in their personal journey. She shares strategies for navigating life's difficult choices and equips listeners with skills and tools to unearth the magic within themselves and the world. Whether you're a thinker, an aspiring leader, or someone seeking to make a difference, Dr. Teri's book promises to resonate and inspire growth and transformation. If you are ready to make a change in your life, you don’t want to miss this interview with Dr. Teri Baydar.
This episode is proudly sponsored by Karen Lyu, whose book 'Singing in Tune' takes a truly holistic approach to singing and contains clearly defined, yet simple-to-understand lessons, exercises, and practical tips for developing body awareness and maintaining a healthy, in-tune, and skilled voice. Get your copy now at www.singingintunebook.com
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6:04 - Leadership, Consciousness and Precognition
15:47 - Social constructs influence on our behaviour
29:15 - Inner critic in creative industries
44:02 - Personal growth and confidence
52:09 - Love V's War and the importance of creating value
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Terry Bader, a leadershipdevelopment consultant and
Certified Professional co activecoach with over 17 years of
experience, who focuses onguiding C suites and high
achievers towards personalgrowth for the greater good. She
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has worked with variousorganisations such as the Boston
Consulting Group, HarvardUniversity, Pfizer, and many,
many more. Her expertise lies intransformational thinking and
helping clients develop traitssuch as calmness under stress,
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self awareness, confidence,authenticity, and emotional
intelligence. Dr. Terry, who isalso an inspirational speaker,
post of paradise reclaimedpodcast, and emerging author
discusses her book, flip yourswitch on today's show. Dr.
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Terry provides actionable stepsand profound concepts to offer
life changing insightsregardless of where listeners
are at in their personaljourney. She shares strategies
for navigating life's difficultTwo choices, and equips
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listeners with skills and toolsto unearth the magic within
themselves and the world.
Whether you're a profoundthinker, aspiring leader, or
someone seeking to make adifference, Dr. Terry's book
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promises to resonate and inspiregrowth and transformation. And
she shares many of these pearlsof wisdom in today's show. So if
you're ready to make a change inyour life, you don't want to
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Terry Bader. So, without furtherado, let's go to today's
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episode.
Welcome to a voice and beyond.
And today, we have Dr. TerryBader, how are you?
Dr. Teri Baydar (06:04):
I'm wonderful.
Thank you very happy to be here.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (06:07):
Thank you. And thank you for being
here. I really appreciate youtaking the time to be on the
show. Now, I read through yourbio EDI is like a Bible, it is
that you have done so much. Ididn't even know how to condense
this down. So I'm going to tryand be as brief as possible and
(06:29):
hope that I tick the mostimportant things. So you are a
renowned leadership coach, andCEO whisperer, a groundbreaking
thinker and expert in the fieldof consciousness, personal
growth, and the underlyingforces that shape our world. You
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are the CEO of White Lilyindividual development, and the
author of the recently publishedbook flip your switch, which is
User's Guide to a whole newmind. And this is a guiding this
is a guide to understandingourselves and the world around
us. Well, that's, I know,there's way more that you do as
(07:14):
Now, interestingly enough, youhave an MBA with a crude
training in authenticleadership, managing complexity
and behavioural economics. Andyou have devoted years to
behavioural research andleadership development. Yes, you
also have a PhD. Is it indivinity? No, no.
Dr. Teri Baydar (07:38):
I have a doctorate, which is not a PhD.
So my I'm actually Reverend Dr.
Well,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (07:45):
because I did see there that there was
in your bio that you were areverend as well. Yes. Wow.
Okay. So much going on with you.
Tell us about your story. Howdid all this start? We started
the beginning.
Dr. Teri Baydar (08:03):
How far back do you want me to go?
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (08:05):
Well, let's just hit all that those
important moments that took youto this place you're at now.
Dr. Teri Baydar (08:12):
All right. Full disclosure. Yeah. Yes. Okay.
Yes. We
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (08:16):
love full disclosure. All right.
Dr. Teri Baydar (08:19):
So I was born clairvoyant. And when I was 12,
I started to figure out that noteverybody is yes. Like, how
would I
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (08:31):
know?
Exactly, exactly? No. And whatwas some of the things that were
happening to you? Well,
Dr. Teri Baydar (08:37):
I mean, see if things that were supposedly not
there, they were not there andother people's perception, but
they were for me, I still get alot of sounds within sounds. And
so audio, visual taste,sometimes smell. So lots of
things going on precog I get alot of precog. That has always
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been and so like, there was apivotal point when I was about
12. I was hanging out with otherkids, you know, and they were
laughing and talking aboutdreams and how weird they are.
And I said, they're not reallyweird. They just show you what's
going to happen before ithappens. And with that, I was
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like, I know that I mean, theywere like, well, like no, that's
not it. You're the one that'sweird. What like what what are
you talking about? So that was apivotal point where I had to
sort of like learn to shut mymouth and hide, to cope. To fit
in. Yeah, it's that fitting inversus belonging, which is in
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the book
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (09:42):
too.
Yes. Yeah. Okay. And then whathappened? Like how did you
embark on this?
Dr. Teri Baydar (09:49):
So I was good in academia, I really plunged
into academia. I did four yearsof high school in three years,
became an exchange student wentto Paris on my own when I was
16. Lean into a French HighSchool, finished in the French
high school system and then wenton to work live study in France
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for 18 years, then a couple ofyears in London. But while I was
in France, when I was 21,another pivotal point, which is
interesting to 112, I neverthought about that, I started
working with what we call anunacknowledged Special Access
Project, which is behind thelines work for the French
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government. So these are thinktanks. And this was a research
institute Think Tank working onthe function of the unconscious
mind. And they were happy to getpeople like me with a different
sensory perception. And, youknow, all of these, you know,
whether it's clairvoyance,precog, all of this going on, to
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do their experience to delveinto the unconscious mind a
suggestive city. Also, theyworked a lot on, on suggestion
because they were trying to dosome social engineering on the
French population and needed toknow what might or might not
work and slip in between belowthe liminal line of what we are
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conscious of. Well,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (11:20):
that's incredible. So when did she go
on to study all the rest of thethings that you've studied? So
Dr. Teri Baydar (11:27):
in my early 30s, MBA and so you
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (11:31):
did the work with the government first
and then went into the academia?
Then I want to do, yeah, how wasthe experience working for the
French government behind thescenes there?
Dr. Teri Baydar (11:42):
It wasn't for the French government directly,
because these are things thatwere not they were
unacknowledged meaning. I don'tknow where the funding came
from. But there was nothing thatsaid that we existed per se, we
were just a think tank, doingall of these experiments, but
the people doing the experimentswere highly linked to the
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government. Okay, so differentindividuals would ask them,
Well, how do we do this? Andwhat if we want to get French
people to make more babies, andwe want the Muslim immigrants to
make less babies. So that was areal thing. Oh.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (12:20):
Okay. So it was never acknowledged that
it was a governmental? No, Idon't know, acknowledge and
acknowledge. But clearly,reading between the lines and
the people that were involved,there was some link to the
government. Oh,
Dr. Teri Baydar (12:36):
yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, my
gosh, kind of like, it's likebeing an experimental lab for
Pharma. But Pharma is not linkedto the farmer. But whatever we
can get out of the lab, we'regonna put it into pharma, you
know, and the pharma companiesare gonna fight for it, if
anything good comes out of it.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (12:56):
And did anything good come out of it? Do
you know what the results ofthat experiment work?
Dr. Teri Baydar (13:02):
That's a really good question. I mean, after so
I was there for seven years. SoI became project manager. So one
of the things we have tounderstand about this, and then
I came to understand, like howto map all of this out, right?
Because seven years is a longtime. Yes. And so this is where
I figured out patchreprogramming that I talked
about in the book, which we canuse for ourselves rather than on
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other people. And I also figuredout two forms of consciousness
and energy. And then went backto your question, Did anything
come out of it? Most of whatcame out of it was,
interestingly, difficult toapply. And I mean, that these,
these things were going on atStanford University and lots of
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other places as well. It wasn'tanything. It's really it wasn't
or isn't anything special. It'shappening all the time right
now. But what's interestingthere is that there's kind of a
consensus that for those in theknow that if you want to, for
example, do remote viewing, theaccuracy so remote viewing is
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when you display yourconsciousness to some of us,
like let's say, I go into a gointo your home here, but I'll go
into your house and figure outwhat I'll go and then you'll ask
me questions, and I'll describethe room to go. I've never been
there. And that's remoteviewing. So you view remotely
with your consciousness, andthen you bring back information
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used in the military all thetime for decades.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (14:39):
Hold on a second. Can I just get this in
my head right now? So you'resaying that remote viewing is.
Let's say that I'm the one doingthe viewing that I'm sitting
here, but I can view your wholeplace without even being there.
Yeah, That's one way I canvisualise. So what without ever
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seeing it? Yeah. Can people dothat?
Dr. Teri Baydar (15:08):
Most people can, yes, it's absolutely
available to probably 90% 85 90%of the public can do this.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (15:17):
Oh my gosh. So you can do that you can
do just about anything, you canview anything, you're
Dr. Teri Baydar (15:24):
gonna do lots of things. That's the that's the
point of my of me coming out andsaying, flip your switch become
more of who you are, justdiscover what I talked about in
part three of the book, which isthe Daneman.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (15:37):
So what is the daemon so
Dr. Teri Baydar (15:39):
the daemon is the Greek term for what we would
call higher self in normallanguage. And it's a part of who
we are. That allows us to dothings like remote viewing, be
precog hear sounds within soundsknow what's going to happen
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before it happens. Or otherelevated things. It's a place of
knowing, and the daemon is yourconnection to the place of
knowing and we all have one. Itsquelched in our modern
societies. It is not developed,but we can develop it, it's
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available to everyone becauseit's already in us. Okay,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (16:28):
so we're born with this. Yeah, everybody
has one. Okay. Now, before welead into all of this, with
behaviours, let's just talkabout and we can build up to
this, this whole concept thatyou're talking about. So when it
comes to say, out behaviours?
What are the things that shapeand influence our behaviours?
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And do these behaviours happenat the level of our brain or our
mind?
Dr. Teri Baydar (17:01):
Well, first off, let's, let's clarify. Brain
and Mind Your brain is an organ.
Okay, yeah, it's like the harddrive of your computer. Your
mind is the software. That isinformation consciousness, your
mind is informationconsciousness, it is fluid.
Think of also like radio wavesare information consciousness.
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But they can go from one radiopillar to another, like the
cross, right? Like the wireless,like, all the wireless stuff we
got going here, right? TheBluetooth. So if you think about
something like remote viewing,it's like Bluetooth thing into
somebody else's house.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (17:52):
Okay.
This is incredible stuff.
Dr. Teri Baydar (17:59):
Just the flooding part, we haven't gotten
to the deep part. Okay, sothat's fun stuff. Okay. Yes. So
we're differentiating the brain,the mind. And then we want to
know, like there are, there's agroup mind and the group line.
And there's lots of little like,we could make all these little
Venn diagrams and circles goingover each other. So the group
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mind has what we call constructsin it. And social constructs and
psychological constructs. So asocial psychological construct,
women wear high heels, mendon't, supposedly, right? Then
there's another construct amarriage is one man, one woman,
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maybe, maybe not. But it is aconstruct, and you start to feel
the friction around thesethings, right? Like, Well, I
understand how this feels like,that's what you should do.
That's the right thing to do.
And that's because thisconstruct has enough critical
mass in the group mind toinfluence us and regulate us in
our thinking and doing now, thatis, how we are regulated. And
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the way the group mind issustained, is the more I choose
as an individual to participatein the constructs of the group
mind, the more I feed the groupmind, it gets bigger and
stronger. And then But then ifsomething happens, like okay, a
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marriage is one woman and oneman and then we have, you know,
we have other choices, LGBTplus, you know, yes. Oh,
suddenly that group group bindstarts to lose a little bit of
traction. It doesn't have thesame weight because people are
saying no, actually, that's notHow to construct for me, I'm
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gonna go over here and invest ina different construct. So then
I'm so then then that constructgets stronger, that group mind
gets stronger, and this otherone gets weaker. So if men
started wearing high heels, theconstruct of women wear high
heels would
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (20:20):
fade away. Yeah, would diminish.
Yeah,
Dr. Teri Baydar (20:24):
it would diminish, because it starts to
be like, Well, men wear highheels, too. And then it's like,
well, then I guess it doesn'tmatter who wears high heels or
not, it's no longer a construct.
Mm hmm.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (20:36):
How did these constructs develop? How do
we as a human were born? Werelike born as a blank canvas? Or
are we? That's,
Dr. Teri Baydar (20:50):
for me to answer. Your Ansley? That's a
little too big for me to answerwith any kind of certainty. I
actually cannot say that. I knowthat. Yes. I know how
individuals integrate constructs
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (21:08):
growing up, yes. Okay. Like,
Dr. Teri Baydar (21:11):
you know, you see your, your mom, your dad
acting a certain way, well,that's what you integrate from
this from zero to seven, we'responges. So we just take it all
in and think well, that's theway it is, you know, and that's
how those are, and then you goto school, and then whatever's
on social media, on whatever ison TV, and whatever you're
saying, You soak it up and bringit in. And this is why the work
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I'm doing is so important, theflip your switch into thinking
for yourself and being at choiceand choosing how to curate the
constructs that regulate you,you should be at choice, we
start out not at choice. But wewant to move into a place where
we are choosing to be who we areokay, with with awareness and
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intention. With your
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (22:02):
book, flip your switch, tell us about
the book and who you hope wouldpick up this book? Is it
targeted for everybody? Or isthis someone with a particular
interest in a certain area?
Dr. Teri Baydar (22:16):
It's for absolutely everybody. What I'm
doing here is unveiling anunderstanding for everybody
about how their minds workwithout having to go into
psychology, that nobody'sbroken, per se, um, that there's
a way to take control of yourlife and to curate yourself and
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your life, like yourprofessional development, and
your personal evolution, all ofthat you can have some choice
about how you develop it. Soit's for absolutely everybody. I
like to say like, it doesn'tmatter if you're bagging
groceries or Elon Musk, it's thesame journey. And it's for
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everybody, I can only coach somany people. So I spent 10 years
boiling this down into somethingthat is really easy access 52
chapters 52 weeks in a year,most chapters are about two
pages. Read it ponder, you know,this is not a formula. But once
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you get a little bit into thebook, and you are doing the
pondering and your thinking andyour your questioning and your
your you're shifting some ofyour ideas, and you're you're
allowing yourself to shift andchange, synchronicity will kick
in, because this book is not aformula that you have to do, or
force yourself to do. It'ssomething you do. And then the
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natural forces of the universecome to support you in this
work, because I'm only unveilingit. I'm not dictating it.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (23:54):
So you're suggesting that this is a
way to be, rather than sayingthis is the way to be?
Dr. Teri Baydar (24:01):
Absolutely. And I'm like, and what I'm doing is
I'm not even, I'm not evensaying this is I'm saying, look,
look at this, what I'm tellingyou this aspect, like we just
talked about social constructs,and group mind, look at this.
Think about this. How does thisaffect you? Where do you see it
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show up in your life? What isthere? What would you like to be
there? What would you like notto be there? How will you change
this? What do you want to do? SoI'm leaving it all open. So by
giving the person that abilityto be all open about it, if they
do some of the clearing work ofbeing of answering some of those
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how, what were questions that Ijust gave you. Then things shift
for them? Yes.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (24:55):
So do we need to start at a place where
we have to shift the Colossae orthe mindset shifts the mindset?
Where do we need to begin asindividuals, if we want to
embark on this journey ofdiscovering another way to be?
Dr. Teri Baydar (25:13):
So let's, let's get into that a little bit. The
structure. Yes. Okay. So it'swritten in three parts. Part
one, the basics of mind, we talkabout the mind, the brain and
everything in a very layman'sterms, understanding what is or
isn't consciousness and the twoforms of consciousness, war and
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love consciousness, two basicforms of who we are, go into
that in a second yet part two,how to shift all the little
things you can do to shift. Trythis, try that, try this, try
that think about this. Thinkabout that. How does it show up
in your life? What would youlike to have instead? What would
you do? Just
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (25:54):
pause there for a second, when we talk
about things that we want toshift? What are some of the
concepts that you suggest we canshift? Like, is it fear, blood
water summit? Can we label someof those things? Oh,
Dr. Teri Baydar (26:11):
I mean, it's endless. It's how you see
yourself your internal narrativehow to deal with your sub inner
saboteur voice or inner critic,how to understand other people.
Because the shift is, is thisfundamental shift from war
consciousness to loveconsciousness. So when you start
the book, you have no idea whatlove consciousness is. War
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consciousness, we know what thatis. We're living it mostly every
day. So war consciousness isthis desire to capture, contain
and control something, someone,even ourselves, our bodies, our
bank, our job, our boss, ourchildren, our spouses, something
someone we want to capturecontaining control. That is more
consciousness. And that is bornfrom this idea of separateness,
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you and I are separate, somebodywins, somebody loses somebody's
right, somebody's wrong,somebody's up somebody's downs.
So this duality of separation.
Okay. That is moreconsciousness. It is everywhere.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (27:14):
Yes, it's in our singing boys
community as well, the way thatwe speak to our students that we
may say to them, that soundsgood. That sounds bad. That was
right, that was wrong. I don'tthink you should do this that
way. I think that is the way itshould be done.
Dr. Teri Baydar (27:33):
Right? It's everywhere. It's everywhere.
Yeah. And then there's thisother form of being this other
way of being which is loveconsciousness. That is where you
take a step back, where you wantto comprehend at a larger level,
you have not right or wrong, youhave multiple dates, multiple
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points of data, of what isoptimal or constructive versus
sub optimal and destructive. Andso things are a lot more
expanded. Open. In that state.
We understand that we areneither independent nor
codependent. We areinterdependent. We are all parts
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of this thing on planet Earthcalled humanity. And we are part
of nature. We are a part ofsystems, we are a part of
countries, we are part ofhouseholds. We have all of these
different parts that we are andall of it's okay. Neither right
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or wrong, it's all okay. Andfrom that place of understanding
and being we are constructivewar consciousness is fundamental
reductionist and destructive.
Yeah, love lessness isexpansive, creative and
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constructive. And we shift wecan be in either state, I
suppose,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismit (29:15):
depending on the situation and the
circumstance we find ourselvesin we may need to go into that
war consciousness area, for ourown safety and for our own
protection, no,
Dr. Teri Baydar (29:27):
yes and no.
Yes. Beginning Yes. But thenthere's a place where you say,
once you embrace fully and yougo into, you've gone through the
processes described in the book,you've switched. Your command
centre is no longer incalculating, manipulating left
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brain thinking. Your commandcentre is over here and your
right mind connected to yourDamon you Higher knowing. And
then from this place, what youwould normally call more
consciousness, it just becomeslogistics, boundaries and
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priorities, it loses its energyas a form of consciousness.
Because you've shifted yourcommand centre over here, this
is who you are, this is whereyou're operating from. And this
is why I work with leaders, andCEOs. Because if we can get the
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CEO over here, it's a whole newgame. It's a whole new game.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (30:43):
Let's start at the individual for a
second theory, there are acouple of words that I went,
aha, this really resonates withme. One of them was the inner
critic. And then you talkedabout boundaries. And that's
something that I'm reallyworking hard on fixing in my
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life at the moment, because Ihave realised that I've come to
a point in my life, wherethere's been a lot of boundary
violations. And I have allowedthose to happen, because they
can kind of sneak up on you. Andso I have become hyper aware of
the moment about thoseboundaries, and really starting
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to enforce them. So we'll get tothat in a moment. But the inner
critic, now this is somethingthat I believe would help the
singing voice community becauseas a creative, our inner critic
is on steroids. It's alwaysswitched on. So if someone was
reading your book, what would besome of the processes then that
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would help get to that rightside of the brain that would
help deal with that innercritic?
Dr. Teri Baydar (32:00):
Well, I'm going to say the inner critic. And I
go into this the saboteur voice.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (32:07):
Yes.
Self Sabotage. Yep. Impostersyndrome, you can kind of get
put them all under that oneheader. Yes,
Dr. Teri Baydar (32:14):
exactly. And so there are several chapters on
that the saboteur voice isfundamentally, when it's
sabotaging, coming from a placeof war consciousness, okay,
because it's destructive, it'sholding you back. Yes, keeping
small, it's making you thinkyou're not good enough. And so,
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because it's in that petty selfplace, calculating,
manipulating, trying to destroyyour growth, that same voice, if
it shifts over into love,consciousness, becomes a good
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friend, who tells you honestly,what you're good at and what
you're not good at, what youshould pursue or not pursue,
right? It's the same energy,it's the same sort of
functionality. It's simplybecause it's living in one side
(33:25):
of us in that war, consciousnessof calculate, manipulate,
capture, contain, control, beafraid, don't stick your head
out, it might get cut off, likeall of that going on. And so
that's why it's important to getto the end of the
transformation. And understandthat this transformation takes
(33:47):
to a place where absolutelyeverything and anything is
either destructive, orconstructive. You know, a
surgeon can save a life or somecriminal can take one with the
(34:08):
same blade, medicines, drugs,can destroy your life or save
your life.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (34:17):
Yes, it's
Dr. Teri Baydar (34:18):
who we're being. While we're doing
whatever it is we're doing.
Everything can go either way.
Anything you do, okay. It
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (34:27):
sounds like we're really messed up as
human beings. How did we get tothis point?
Dr. Teri Baydar (34:34):
Yeah. Well, I mean, we are because if you if
you look around, right, there'sa war consciousness is mostly
what we see
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (34:46):
and what we hear on the news and on
social media. It's everywhere.
Exactly.
Dr. Teri Baydar (34:52):
Because it's coming from the petty self, and
we're being in our petty self orwar consciousness as we're doing
whatever we're doing and Andthat's the result. If we shift
our hearts and minds to a higherlevel, into love consciousness
and a different way of thinkingand being, the results
automatically change its causeand consequence.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (35:16):
Why is it then that we behave in this
manner? Why why do we spend somuch time in war consciousness?
Other than we may not know anybetter, but I believe in this is
just my opinion, that in life,every action, there's a payback.
I mean, you know, people say,Oh, I was the victim of, but in
(35:41):
many scenarios, that victim iswell aware that they're, that
that harm is going to happen.
And they put themselves in thatsituation anyway. Because there
is a certain payback for them.
Whether it's like, okay, oh, mygosh, you wouldn't believe what
that person just did to me. Orthey put their hand in the
(36:03):
lion's den and their hand getgets bitten off, and they go,
Oh, I lost my hand to the lion.
Okay, so I'm just using thoseas, like, terrible examples of
payback. You know, there'salways that payback. So what is
the payback for us as humanbeings living in that war
consciousness?
Dr. Teri Baydar (36:25):
I don't know exactly. But I mean, it's kind
of like, if you think about, itwas like what I was saying
earlier, like, if you're beingin a state of war consciousness,
what you reap is what you saw,that's what we're talking about,
right? I don't think of itnecessarily of as payback. It's
(36:45):
just cause and consequence. If Iplant a tomato seed, I'm gonna
get a tomato plant. Right. Soand the reason that that
everything is is so mixed up isthat we have in our nature, this
(37:07):
willingness to settle for thewar consciousness, not work to
get to the left consciousness,you know, we settle for our
petty selves. Yes. A lot offear. There are societal group
mind factors that I'm veryinterested in, obviously,
(37:28):
because again, we talk about howthe group mind regulates us. And
so we have these beliefs. Likeyou even we're using the word
payback. And I'm like, No,that's kind of a war conscious
idea and itself. Payback. Yes.
It's Crime and Punishment,whereas I'm talking about cause
and consequence. Do you see thedifference? Yes, yes. So it's
like it's built in. So that'swhy we have to think so hard
(37:54):
about it. And we have to take abook, read two pages, look at
it, think about it, go for awalk. Think about it, listen to
a podcast, you know, look at thewords, maybe read it again, do
an exercise. You know, that'swhy it's so much work. It's
(38:15):
because it's sort of like we arefishing muddy water. And then,
you know, I'm saying, there'smud in the water, more
consciousness and everybody'sgoing, wagging their tails
stirring up the mud going, whatmud? What are you talking about?
What mud? I don't see any mud?
(38:36):
Do you see any mud? No, I don'tsee any mud. We're all we're all
stirring it up all the time. Soit's that stepping back, chill,
let it settle. And thinkbreathes. So we can let some of
its maybe we can start to noticethe difference between clear
(38:58):
water and mud. So with
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (39:00):
the CEOs and the leaders that you work
with, what's the kind of workthat you do with those people,
Dr. Teri Baydar (39:06):
they're really on a journey. Most of my clients
are either social entrepreneurs,or HR executives, or learning
and learning and development, alot of them. So they're all
trying to, you know, help shapea company shape a culture in a
(39:28):
positive direction. And so by,on the one hand, coaching them
and teaching them, all theseconstructs that are in the book,
taking them through thatpersonal journey of elevation,
they get to teach it, Preach itout to whomever and I say preach
(39:50):
IP, there's no religion behindit. It's just who we are as
humans as we elevate andunderstanding that, by them
modelling Model, they're showingwhat's possible. And, and so
they there, they really get akick out of it.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (40:08):
What kinds of results are they
getting with their teams, a lot
Dr. Teri Baydar (40:12):
of really interesting things happen in all
different ways, you know, theyget a lot more understanding of
who they're dealing withfriction goes way down between
people, creativity goes way up,innovation goes way up, product
development will go way up,because that's all the creative
(40:33):
side of things, connectivitywill kick in, they'll have,
they'll do more with less,they'll have I don't know, just
a lot of the very simple stuffpeople will will be ill less
people are willing to step upmore. When there's a crises,
they identify more with thecompany. They have what I call
(40:56):
an emotional salary, where asmost people going to their jobs
don't have an emotionalsalaries. But but, you know,
teams working under these kindsof CEOs and HR, directors and
leaders will start to realisethat they have an emotional
salary, because they'll start toget it from just those micro
shifts in culture and behaviourthat are happening around them.
(41:19):
Yep.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (41:20):
So as individuals, what's a couple of
basic principles that we canapply, like to elevate our
happiness, our impact, orinfluence?
Dr. Teri Baydar (41:31):
Okay, I will go to like the beginning of the
book, the basics, mind, thereare some basic myths, think of
it like it's your mentalemotional landscape, you got to
kind of clear it out, look atwhat's there and pull some of
the weeds, I'm going to pull acouple of weeds. Big one,
massive one, holding you back,the happiness formula lie. The
(41:59):
happiness formula, which is alie, is that once I get the
right house, the right spouse,the right job, the right dress
size, the right this the rightthat, I just get that gig get
the right, you know, the rightplace, or I get that job, or I
just hit that many followers,then I will have happiness, I
(42:24):
will be happy. Now that forIsland,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (42:28):
I agree it is a massive myth.
Dr. Teri Baydar (42:32):
Happiness is a state of being it is not
calculate double. And so that isthat left brain kind of I'm
going to adjust it somehow I canquantify by adding up all these
things to equal happiness neverworked for anybody never will.
(42:55):
And yet, we're so hooked on it.
It is a massive construct of thegroup mind, planet wide. That
gets you stuck and keeps youdown. It is a lie.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (43:16):
It's a lie. It's like getting on a
treadmill and you can't get offbecause you're always looking
for the next. I learned that afew quite a few years ago. Yep.
And you're usually looking forexternal things to make you
happy. They're not internal.
Yeah,
Dr. Teri Baydar (43:33):
yeah. Although I mean, we can also do it with
the internal redesign, you cando it to your mind too, which is
kind of bad, too. We, we need todo a little bit of reshaping in
the mental emotional landscape.
But also going around in yourmental emotional landscape
thinking that it has to beperfect is also like, you cannot
apply the formula to your mindeither. You have to notice the
(43:54):
reality of your mind and be withit and be okay with it. And
just, you know what, this is whoI am. And this is where I am.
And these are the actualthoughts I'm having. Do I want
to have other thoughts? Yeah,these are not really good ones.
What could I have instead? Whatwould work? I mean, literally
redesigning the thought patternsaround what you're doing? Do we?
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (44:22):
Do we all have the ability to
facilitate this change? Can weall make this change? Or are
there certain personality typesare traits like narcissists or
people who have had some kind ofbrain injury? That's
Dr. Teri Baydar (44:37):
beyond my field? I do know that every
pretty much every normal personthat I've ever met, has been
able to do that. I know certainnarcissists that have been my
clients that have made leaps andbounds. I don't know if those
people would have done it ontheir own. Yes,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (44:56):
yes. You can't prove that. Yes. Yeah.
Dr. Teri Baydar (45:00):
I mean, I put the screws to them. So that's,
you know, they paid me for it.
They wanted it. Yeah, no, no, Ibut I don't know and brain
injuries, I don't know,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (45:14):
what's one way that we can unlock our
confidence. And, and I love thatyou talk about influence let's
let's talk about confidence andinfluence for a second, how can
we shift those? What are thesteps that we can take to shift
those.
Dr. Teri Baydar (45:32):
In part one I talked about the different
personas, and we have a deeppart of ourselves that we need
to explore and nourish. That'swhere confidence comes from.
It's deep within us. It's whenwe're loyal to who we are at our
core, when we reach for calling,and we stopped calculating about
(45:57):
whether or not we should dosomething, but we just know. And
so the whole development isgoing to give every everybody
who does it a an incrementalshift towards the confidence,
because it's all about goinginside. And being who you are,
naturally. The more you do that,the more you are confident,
(46:22):
because you're not hanging yourhat on something out here, your
head is on your own head, you'rekeeping it to yourself, you're
taking it to a place where youare, you know, and once you're
in that state, and we all moreor less can get there, the book
(46:43):
is the whole how to get there.
The more you do that, the moreyou're confident. The more you
do that, the more you're happyat ease, you have less fear. I'm
actually starting a podcast ofmy my own. And the first episode
is resiliency and leadership.
And it's with two of my clients.
And we go through a lot of thestuff that you go through as my
(47:03):
client and an understanding thatyou become naturally resilient,
you can move with ease andconfidence. Because you've let
go of looking for validation onthe outside, you, you become
self validating, it's but it's aprocess. And that's you know, I
mean, some of the simple thingsis take care of yourself. Self
(47:29):
Care, meditate, meditation,walks in the woods, mindfulness,
mindfulness, think, alsocontemplate. Contemplate your
there's meditation where youdon't think. And then there's
Hey, how about this, think aboutsomething not in a left brain
(47:49):
calculating way but open it up?
What matters?
Dr Marisa Lee Nais (47:57):
daydreaming?
Dr. Teri Baydar (47:58):
Yes, ask yourself some big fuzzy
questions. See what comes up? Mmhmm.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (48:05):
Some of this stuff, people may say, Wow,
this is really woowoo. But youare clearly a highly intelligent
person, you know, your stuff. Iacknowledge all of that. Have
you ever been silenced or peoplelike, tried to quiet new down,
(48:28):
or they've they've felt this istoo much.
Dr. Teri Baydar (48:32):
Not yet too much. I get snarky remarks on
social media. Just talking aboutlove consciousness is enough to
get snarky hateful remarks. Justbecause people in war
consciousness who believe thatthat's the only way to be and
are fully invested in theirdefensiveness and aggression.
(48:56):
They're very disturbed bysomebody going around talking
about love consciousness, andthat we can elevate humans. So,
so far, no biggies?
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (49:12):
Yep.
Yes, yes. What's your vision forhumanity? How would you like to
visualise the world in thefuture?
Dr. Teri Baydar (49:22):
I see. And this is actually something I actually
do for certain people. I foreseewhole industries that are
screaming to be born. Everythingthat centres around
regeneration, regeneration beinglike the centre word there,
(49:47):
regenerative farming,regenerative medicine,
regenerative waste management,regenerative manufacturing, and
the list goes on, there will bea massive shift in economic
model. Right now, historically,we have inherited with inherited
(50:13):
with the patriarchy, you know,because it's a gradual, historic
journey, we have a pyramidsystem that you know, where the
planet is at the bottom whereit's getting trashed, we're
using an extracting, it's anextraction model, where we
extract from the bottom andbring it up to the top, so that
(50:35):
people at the top can renewtheir, their their yachts every
couple of years, or whateverthey're doing with loads and
loads of money. And then thoseat the bottom don't have enough.
But they give their blood sweatand tears to two organisations
that extract their the valuethey add, gets monetized and
(50:56):
goes up to the top. And thismodel will eventually have to
implode. So as I'm working withsocial entrepreneurs, and all of
these people, what we're tryingto do and establish is other
business models and economicstructures. So that we can have
(51:17):
a, like a safety net, aneconomic safety net that allows
when that structuredisintegrates, I would say
preferably over just collapsing,that we will have constellation
fashion, a network of partnership, model, love conscious
(51:41):
models of Business andEconomics, where which is not
based on extraction orexploitation of planet and other
people, or countries. But it'sbased on cooperation, love,
consciousness, creativity, andsynergy where we get added
(52:04):
value, where, by comingtogether, there's added values.
And it's this comp, which sortof compiles because it's all of
these clusters that worktogether. And there are also
internal business models thatsome of us are working on, as
(52:25):
well as to how to internallymake a company profitable in
this in this cluster fashion,because this is the thing,
people get really scared thatthey're going to lose the
profitability, because they'rethinking from their petty self,
what's in it for me, in that warconsciousness, you and I are
separate, somebody's got to win,somebody's got to lose. And
that's what's happening in theextraction model. Now, if we
(52:48):
step out of that, for a minute,we noticed that the value
created is what makes profit. Ifyou're creating a product or a
service that gives value topeople, they're going to
transact and give you money. Andthat transaction will create
(53:09):
profit, that is a given inbusiness, otherwise, you revive
Yes. And so I have to debunkthat all the time with business
people. Because that's theirnumber one fear that comes up
immediately. If I change mybusiness model, I'm not gonna
make money, I'm gonna die. Imake no, you continue to create
(53:30):
value instead of extractingvalue from somebody else's work.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (53:35):
Hmm, interesting. So interesting. So
what do you believe your legacywill be?
Dr. Teri Baydar (53:41):
I hope, my legacy will be that everybody
will walk around talking aboutlove and care and love
consciousness and warconsciousness, and social
constructs, and group mind. Andall of a lot of these concepts
or concepts that I've puttogether. And that that will one
day be common language,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (54:02):
because they're all new languages.
They're all new words at themoment. Is there anything else
that you wanted to add to thisinterview that we may have not
spoken about?
Dr. Teri Baydar (54:12):
Yeah, in visualising the future, I want
to give you an image, okay. ofone of the things that is
happening here and now with youand me. Right now think of look
at visualise the planet Earth,like the globe. All right. And
there are these golden likethese little fireflies, these
(54:38):
little lights here and there.
Okay, these little golden dotshere and there. And then between
the golden dots that are kind ofscattered all over the planet.
There's one here in Boston andthere's one there in Australia
and there's a line between andthey You cross, and they start
(54:59):
to form this web. And this islike a web of light. This web of
life that people like you areforming podcasts like this are
creating this web of light. AndI believe that this is a
(55:23):
wonderful thing that we're doingall of these little Lightworkers
all over the planet, creatingthis little, this delicate,
seemingly delicate web of light,and that it is going to
contribute massively, to gettingto where what I call pure,
(55:49):
positive, critical mass, in howwe see the world and what we're
doing in it, and how we come tounderstand things like love
consciousness, or you can callit something else, it doesn't
matter. A rose is a rose by anyother name, and that we elevate
together.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (56:12):
Wow, that's incredible. That's
incredible. Well, where canpeople find your book? We will
share the links in the shownotes. But is the book on
Amazon? Or where can they findthe book? Yeah,
Dr. Teri Baydar (56:25):
the book is on Amazon. Flip your switch A
User's Guide to A Whole NewMind. Dr. Terry Vadar. And if
you're interested in coaching,you can find me at White Lily
coaching.com. You can find me onInsta, Dr. Terry Bader one. You
can find me on LinkedIn, Dr.
Terry Vadar. And I now have alsolove conscious human.com, which
(56:52):
is a work in progress. But it'salso where I'm trying to find
ways to consolidate and bringtogether different support
educational support for peoplewho want to go on to love
conscious human path and elevateamazing.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (57:16):
Well, I would love to thank you for your
time, appreciate the work thatyou're doing. It is a whole new
world is opening up a whole newworld. I think I'm going to have
to listen back to this a fewtimes to totally absorb
everything that you've spokenabout. There was so much
(57:37):
information in such a shortamount of time, but I appreciate
you. I appreciate that you'vebeen here spent the time with
me. And wish you all the verybest. Dr. Terry,
Dr. Teri Baydar (57:49):
thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (57:51):
Okay, take care. Thank you. Bye. Thank
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And today, we have Dr. TerryBader, how are you?
Dr. Teri Baydar (06:04):
I'm wonderful.
Thank you very happy to be here.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (06:07):
Thank you. And thank you for being
here. I really appreciate youtaking the time to be on the
show. Now, I read through yourbio EDI is like a Bible, it is
that you have done so much. Ididn't even know how to condense
this down. So I'm going to tryand be as brief as possible and
(06:29):
hope that I tick the mostimportant things. So you are a
renowned leadership coach, andCEO whisperer, a groundbreaking
thinker and expert in the fieldof consciousness, personal
growth, and the underlyingforces that shape our world. You
(06:49):
are the CEO of White Lilyindividual development, and the
author of the recently publishedbook flip your switch, which is
User's Guide to a whole newmind. And this is a guiding this
is a guide to understandingourselves and the world around
us. Well, that's, I know,there's way more that you do as
(07:14):
Now, interestingly enough, youhave an MBA with a crude
training in authenticleadership, managing complexity
and behavioural economics. Andyou have devoted years to
behavioural research andleadership development. Yes, you
also have a PhD. Is it indivinity? No, no.
Dr. Teri Baydar (07:38):
I have a doctorate, which is not a PhD.
So my I'm actually Reverend Dr.
Well,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (07:45):
because I did see there that there was
in your bio that you were areverend as well. Yes. Wow.
Okay. So much going on with you.
Tell us about your story. Howdid all this start? We started
the beginning.
Dr. Teri Baydar (08:03):
How far back do you want me to go?
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (08:05):
Well, let's just hit all that those
important moments that took youto this place you're at now.
Dr. Teri Baydar (08:12):
All right. Full disclosure. Yeah. Yes. Okay.
Yes. We
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (08:16):
love full disclosure. All right.
Dr. Teri Baydar (08:19):
So I was born clairvoyant. And when I was 12,
I started to figure out that noteverybody is yes. Like, how
would I
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (08:31):
know?
Exactly, exactly? No. And whatwas some of the things that were
happening to you? Well,
Dr. Teri Baydar (08:37):
I mean, see if things that were supposedly not
there, they were not there andother people's perception, but
they were for me, I still get alot of sounds within sounds. And
so audio, visual taste,sometimes smell. So lots of
things going on precog I get alot of precog. That has always
(08:59):
been and so like, there was apivotal point when I was about
12. I was hanging out with otherkids, you know, and they were
laughing and talking aboutdreams and how weird they are.
And I said, they're not reallyweird. They just show you what's
going to happen before ithappens. And with that, I was
(09:19):
like, I know that I mean, theywere like, well, like no, that's
not it. You're the one that'sweird. What like what what are
you talking about? So that was apivotal point where I had to
sort of like learn to shut mymouth and hide, to cope. To fit
in. Yeah, it's that fitting inversus belonging, which is in
(09:42):
the book
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (09:42):
too.
Yes. Yeah. Okay. And then whathappened? Like how did you
embark on this?
Dr. Teri Baydar (09:49):
So I was good in academia, I really plunged
into academia. I did four yearsof high school in three years,
became an exchange student wentto Paris on my own when I was
16. Lean into a French HighSchool, finished in the French
high school system and then wenton to work live study in France
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for 18 years, then a couple ofyears in London. But while I was
in France, when I was 21,another pivotal point, which is
interesting to 112, I neverthought about that, I started
working with what we call anunacknowledged Special Access
Project, which is behind thelines work for the French
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government. So these are thinktanks. And this was a research
institute Think Tank working onthe function of the unconscious
mind. And they were happy to getpeople like me with a different
sensory perception. And, youknow, all of these, you know,
whether it's clairvoyance,precog, all of this going on, to
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do their experience to delveinto the unconscious mind a
suggestive city. Also, theyworked a lot on, on suggestion
because they were trying to dosome social engineering on the
French population and needed toknow what might or might not
work and slip in between belowthe liminal line of what we are
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conscious of. Well,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (11:20):
that's incredible. So when did she go
on to study all the rest of thethings that you've studied? So
Dr. Teri Baydar (11:27):
in my early 30s, MBA and so you
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (11:31):
did the work with the government first
and then went into the academia?
Then I want to do, yeah, how wasthe experience working for the
French government behind thescenes there?
Dr. Teri Baydar (11:42):
It wasn't for the French government directly,
because these are things thatwere not they were
unacknowledged meaning. I don'tknow where the funding came
from. But there was nothing thatsaid that we existed per se, we
were just a think tank, doingall of these experiments, but
the people doing the experimentswere highly linked to the
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government. Okay, so differentindividuals would ask them,
Well, how do we do this? Andwhat if we want to get French
people to make more babies, andwe want the Muslim immigrants to
make less babies. So that was areal thing. Oh.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (12:20):
Okay. So it was never acknowledged that
it was a governmental? No, Idon't know, acknowledge and
acknowledge. But clearly,reading between the lines and
the people that were involved,there was some link to the
government. Oh,
Dr. Teri Baydar (12:36):
yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, my
gosh, kind of like, it's likebeing an experimental lab for
Pharma. But Pharma is not linkedto the farmer. But whatever we
can get out of the lab, we'regonna put it into pharma, you
know, and the pharma companiesare gonna fight for it, if
anything good comes out of it.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (12:56):
And did anything good come out of it? Do
you know what the results ofthat experiment work?
Dr. Teri Baydar (13:02):
That's a really good question. I mean, after so
I was there for seven years. SoI became project manager. So one
of the things we have tounderstand about this, and then
I came to understand, like howto map all of this out, right?
Because seven years is a longtime. Yes. And so this is where
I figured out patchreprogramming that I talked
about in the book, which we canuse for ourselves rather than on
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other people. And I also figuredout two forms of consciousness
and energy. And then went backto your question, Did anything
come out of it? Most of whatcame out of it was,
interestingly, difficult toapply. And I mean, that these,
these things were going on atStanford University and lots of
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other places as well. It wasn'tanything. It's really it wasn't
or isn't anything special. It'shappening all the time right
now. But what's interestingthere is that there's kind of a
consensus that for those in theknow that if you want to, for
example, do remote viewing, theaccuracy so remote viewing is
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when you display yourconsciousness to some of us,
like let's say, I go into a gointo your home here, but I'll go
into your house and figure outwhat I'll go and then you'll ask
me questions, and I'll describethe room to go. I've never been
there. And that's remoteviewing. So you view remotely
with your consciousness, andthen you bring back information
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used in the military all thetime for decades.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (14:39):
Hold on a second. Can I just get this in
my head right now? So you'resaying that remote viewing is.
Let's say that I'm the one doingthe viewing that I'm sitting
here, but I can view your wholeplace without even being there.
Yeah, That's one way I canvisualise. So what without ever
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seeing it? Yeah. Can people dothat?
Dr. Teri Baydar (15:08):
Most people can, yes, it's absolutely
available to probably 90% 85 90%of the public can do this.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (15:17):
Oh my gosh. So you can do that you can
do just about anything, you canview anything, you're
Dr. Teri Baydar (15:24):
gonna do lots of things. That's the that's the
point of my of me coming out andsaying, flip your switch become
more of who you are, justdiscover what I talked about in
part three of the book, which isthe Daneman.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (15:37):
So what is the daemon so
Dr. Teri Baydar (15:39):
the daemon is the Greek term for what we would
call higher self in normallanguage. And it's a part of who
we are. That allows us to dothings like remote viewing, be
precog hear sounds within soundsknow what's going to happen
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before it happens. Or otherelevated things. It's a place of
knowing, and the daemon is yourconnection to the place of
knowing and we all have one. Itsquelched in our modern
societies. It is not developed,but we can develop it, it's
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available to everyone becauseit's already in us. Okay,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (16:28):
so we're born with this. Yeah, everybody
has one. Okay. Now, before welead into all of this, with
behaviours, let's just talkabout and we can build up to
this, this whole concept thatyou're talking about. So when it
comes to say, out behaviours?
What are the things that shapeand influence our behaviours?
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And do these behaviours happenat the level of our brain or our
mind?
Dr. Teri Baydar (17:01):
Well, first off, let's, let's clarify. Brain
and Mind Your brain is an organ.
Okay, yeah, it's like the harddrive of your computer. Your
mind is the software. That isinformation consciousness, your
mind is informationconsciousness, it is fluid.
Think of also like radio wavesare information consciousness.
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But they can go from one radiopillar to another, like the
cross, right? Like the wireless,like, all the wireless stuff we
got going here, right? TheBluetooth. So if you think about
something like remote viewing,it's like Bluetooth thing into
somebody else's house.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (17:52):
Okay.
This is incredible stuff.
Dr. Teri Baydar (17:59):
Just the flooding part, we haven't gotten
to the deep part. Okay, sothat's fun stuff. Okay. Yes. So
we're differentiating the brain,the mind. And then we want to
know, like there are, there's agroup mind and the group line.
And there's lots of little like,we could make all these little
Venn diagrams and circles goingover each other. So the group
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mind has what we call constructsin it. And social constructs and
psychological constructs. So asocial psychological construct,
women wear high heels, mendon't, supposedly, right? Then
there's another construct amarriage is one man, one woman,
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maybe, maybe not. But it is aconstruct, and you start to feel
the friction around thesethings, right? Like, Well, I
understand how this feels like,that's what you should do.
That's the right thing to do.
And that's because thisconstruct has enough critical
mass in the group mind toinfluence us and regulate us in
our thinking and doing now, thatis, how we are regulated. And
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the way the group mind issustained, is the more I choose
as an individual to participatein the constructs of the group
mind, the more I feed the groupmind, it gets bigger and
stronger. And then But then ifsomething happens, like okay, a
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marriage is one woman and oneman and then we have, you know,
we have other choices, LGBTplus, you know, yes. Oh,
suddenly that group group bindstarts to lose a little bit of
traction. It doesn't have thesame weight because people are
saying no, actually, that's notHow to construct for me, I'm
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gonna go over here and invest ina different construct. So then
I'm so then then that constructgets stronger, that group mind
gets stronger, and this otherone gets weaker. So if men
started wearing high heels, theconstruct of women wear high
heels would
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (20:20):
fade away. Yeah, would diminish.
Yeah,
Dr. Teri Baydar (20:24):
it would diminish, because it starts to
be like, Well, men wear highheels, too. And then it's like,
well, then I guess it doesn'tmatter who wears high heels or
not, it's no longer a construct.
Mm hmm.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (20:36):
How did these constructs develop? How do
we as a human were born? Werelike born as a blank canvas? Or
are we? That's,
Dr. Teri Baydar (20:50):
for me to answer. Your Ansley? That's a
little too big for me to answerwith any kind of certainty. I
actually cannot say that. I knowthat. Yes. I know how
individuals integrate constructs
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (21:08):
growing up, yes. Okay. Like,
Dr. Teri Baydar (21:11):
you know, you see your, your mom, your dad
acting a certain way, well,that's what you integrate from
this from zero to seven, we'responges. So we just take it all
in and think well, that's theway it is, you know, and that's
how those are, and then you goto school, and then whatever's
on social media, on whatever ison TV, and whatever you're
saying, You soak it up and bringit in. And this is why the work
(21:36):
I'm doing is so important, theflip your switch into thinking
for yourself and being at choiceand choosing how to curate the
constructs that regulate you,you should be at choice, we
start out not at choice. But wewant to move into a place where
we are choosing to be who we areokay, with with awareness and
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intention. With your
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (22:02):
book, flip your switch, tell us about
the book and who you hope wouldpick up this book? Is it
targeted for everybody? Or isthis someone with a particular
interest in a certain area?
Dr. Teri Baydar (22:16):
It's for absolutely everybody. What I'm
doing here is unveiling anunderstanding for everybody
about how their minds workwithout having to go into
psychology, that nobody'sbroken, per se, um, that there's
a way to take control of yourlife and to curate yourself and
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your life, like yourprofessional development, and
your personal evolution, all ofthat you can have some choice
about how you develop it. Soit's for absolutely everybody. I
like to say like, it doesn'tmatter if you're bagging
groceries or Elon Musk, it's thesame journey. And it's for
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everybody, I can only coach somany people. So I spent 10 years
boiling this down into somethingthat is really easy access 52
chapters 52 weeks in a year,most chapters are about two
pages. Read it ponder, you know,this is not a formula. But once
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you get a little bit into thebook, and you are doing the
pondering and your thinking andyour your questioning and your
your you're shifting some ofyour ideas, and you're you're
allowing yourself to shift andchange, synchronicity will kick
in, because this book is not aformula that you have to do, or
force yourself to do. It'ssomething you do. And then the
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natural forces of the universecome to support you in this
work, because I'm only unveilingit. I'm not dictating it.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (23:54):
So you're suggesting that this is a
way to be, rather than sayingthis is the way to be?
Dr. Teri Baydar (24:01):
Absolutely. And I'm like, and what I'm doing is
I'm not even, I'm not evensaying this is I'm saying, look,
look at this, what I'm tellingyou this aspect, like we just
talked about social constructs,and group mind, look at this.
Think about this. How does thisaffect you? Where do you see it
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show up in your life? What isthere? What would you like to be
there? What would you like notto be there? How will you change
this? What do you want to do? SoI'm leaving it all open. So by
giving the person that abilityto be all open about it, if they
do some of the clearing work ofbeing of answering some of those
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how, what were questions that Ijust gave you. Then things shift
for them? Yes.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (24:55):
So do we need to start at a place where
we have to shift the Colossae orthe mindset shifts the mindset?
Where do we need to begin asindividuals, if we want to
embark on this journey ofdiscovering another way to be?
Dr. Teri Baydar (25:13):
So let's, let's get into that a little bit. The
structure. Yes. Okay. So it'swritten in three parts. Part
one, the basics of mind, we talkabout the mind, the brain and
everything in a very layman'sterms, understanding what is or
isn't consciousness and the twoforms of consciousness, war and
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love consciousness, two basicforms of who we are, go into
that in a second yet part two,how to shift all the little
things you can do to shift. Trythis, try that, try this, try
that think about this. Thinkabout that. How does it show up
in your life? What would youlike to have instead? What would
you do? Just
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (25:54):
pause there for a second, when we talk
about things that we want toshift? What are some of the
concepts that you suggest we canshift? Like, is it fear, blood
water summit? Can we label someof those things? Oh,
Dr. Teri Baydar (26:11):
I mean, it's endless. It's how you see
yourself your internal narrativehow to deal with your sub inner
saboteur voice or inner critic,how to understand other people.
Because the shift is, is thisfundamental shift from war
consciousness to loveconsciousness. So when you start
the book, you have no idea whatlove consciousness is. War
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consciousness, we know what thatis. We're living it mostly every
day. So war consciousness isthis desire to capture, contain
and control something, someone,even ourselves, our bodies, our
bank, our job, our boss, ourchildren, our spouses, something
someone we want to capturecontaining control. That is more
consciousness. And that is bornfrom this idea of separateness,
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you and I are separate, somebodywins, somebody loses somebody's
right, somebody's wrong,somebody's up somebody's downs.
So this duality of separation.
Okay. That is moreconsciousness. It is everywhere.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (27:14):
Yes, it's in our singing boys
community as well, the way thatwe speak to our students that we
may say to them, that soundsgood. That sounds bad. That was
right, that was wrong. I don'tthink you should do this that
way. I think that is the way itshould be done.
Dr. Teri Baydar (27:33):
Right? It's everywhere. It's everywhere.
Yeah. And then there's thisother form of being this other
way of being which is loveconsciousness. That is where you
take a step back, where you wantto comprehend at a larger level,
you have not right or wrong, youhave multiple dates, multiple
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points of data, of what isoptimal or constructive versus
sub optimal and destructive. Andso things are a lot more
expanded. Open. In that state.
We understand that we areneither independent nor
codependent. We areinterdependent. We are all parts
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of this thing on planet Earthcalled humanity. And we are part
of nature. We are a part ofsystems, we are a part of
countries, we are part ofhouseholds. We have all of these
different parts that we are andall of it's okay. Neither right
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or wrong, it's all okay. Andfrom that place of understanding
and being we are constructivewar consciousness is fundamental
reductionist and destructive.
Yeah, love lessness isexpansive, creative and
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constructive. And we shift wecan be in either state, I
suppose,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismit (29:15):
depending on the situation and the
circumstance we find ourselvesin we may need to go into that
war consciousness area, for ourown safety and for our own
protection, no,
Dr. Teri Baydar (29:27):
yes and no.
Yes. Beginning Yes. But thenthere's a place where you say,
once you embrace fully and yougo into, you've gone through the
processes described in the book,you've switched. Your command
centre is no longer incalculating, manipulating left
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brain thinking. Your commandcentre is over here and your
right mind connected to yourDamon you Higher knowing. And
then from this place, what youwould normally call more
consciousness, it just becomeslogistics, boundaries and
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priorities, it loses its energyas a form of consciousness.
Because you've shifted yourcommand centre over here, this
is who you are, this is whereyou're operating from. And this
is why I work with leaders, andCEOs. Because if we can get the
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CEO over here, it's a whole newgame. It's a whole new game.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (30:43):
Let's start at the individual for a
second theory, there are acouple of words that I went,
aha, this really resonates withme. One of them was the inner
critic. And then you talkedabout boundaries. And that's
something that I'm reallyworking hard on fixing in my
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life at the moment, because Ihave realised that I've come to
a point in my life, wherethere's been a lot of boundary
violations. And I have allowedthose to happen, because they
can kind of sneak up on you. Andso I have become hyper aware of
the moment about thoseboundaries, and really starting
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to enforce them. So we'll get tothat in a moment. But the inner
critic, now this is somethingthat I believe would help the
singing voice community becauseas a creative, our inner critic
is on steroids. It's alwaysswitched on. So if someone was
reading your book, what would besome of the processes then that
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would help get to that rightside of the brain that would
help deal with that innercritic?
Dr. Teri Baydar (32:00):
Well, I'm going to say the inner critic. And I
go into this the saboteur voice.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (32:07):
Yes.
Self Sabotage. Yep. Impostersyndrome, you can kind of get
put them all under that oneheader. Yes,
Dr. Teri Baydar (32:14):
exactly. And so there are several chapters on
that the saboteur voice isfundamentally, when it's
sabotaging, coming from a placeof war consciousness, okay,
because it's destructive, it'sholding you back. Yes, keeping
small, it's making you thinkyou're not good enough. And so,
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because it's in that petty selfplace, calculating,
manipulating, trying to destroyyour growth, that same voice, if
it shifts over into love,consciousness, becomes a good
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friend, who tells you honestly,what you're good at and what
you're not good at, what youshould pursue or not pursue,
right? It's the same energy,it's the same sort of
functionality. It's simplybecause it's living in one side
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of us in that war, consciousnessof calculate, manipulate,
capture, contain, control, beafraid, don't stick your head
out, it might get cut off, likeall of that going on. And so
that's why it's important to getto the end of the
transformation. And understandthat this transformation takes
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to a place where absolutelyeverything and anything is
either destructive, orconstructive. You know, a
surgeon can save a life or somecriminal can take one with the
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same blade, medicines, drugs,can destroy your life or save
your life.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (34:17):
Yes, it's
Dr. Teri Baydar (34:18):
who we're being. While we're doing
whatever it is we're doing.
Everything can go either way.
Anything you do, okay. It
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (34:27):
sounds like we're really messed up as
human beings. How did we get tothis point?
Dr. Teri Baydar (34:34):
Yeah. Well, I mean, we are because if you if
you look around, right, there'sa war consciousness is mostly
what we see
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (34:46):
and what we hear on the news and on
social media. It's everywhere.
Exactly.
Dr. Teri Baydar (34:52):
Because it's coming from the petty self, and
we're being in our petty self orwar consciousness as we're doing
whatever we're doing and Andthat's the result. If we shift
our hearts and minds to a higherlevel, into love consciousness
and a different way of thinkingand being, the results
automatically change its causeand consequence.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (35:16):
Why is it then that we behave in this
manner? Why why do we spend somuch time in war consciousness?
Other than we may not know anybetter, but I believe in this is
just my opinion, that in life,every action, there's a payback.
I mean, you know, people say,Oh, I was the victim of, but in
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many scenarios, that victim iswell aware that they're, that
that harm is going to happen.
And they put themselves in thatsituation anyway. Because there
is a certain payback for them.
Whether it's like, okay, oh, mygosh, you wouldn't believe what
that person just did to me. Orthey put their hand in the
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lion's den and their hand getgets bitten off, and they go,
Oh, I lost my hand to the lion.
Okay, so I'm just using thoseas, like, terrible examples of
payback. You know, there'salways that payback. So what is
the payback for us as humanbeings living in that war
consciousness?
Dr. Teri Baydar (36:25):
I don't know exactly. But I mean, it's kind
of like, if you think about, itwas like what I was saying
earlier, like, if you're beingin a state of war consciousness,
what you reap is what you saw,that's what we're talking about,
right? I don't think of itnecessarily of as payback. It's
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just cause and consequence. If Iplant a tomato seed, I'm gonna
get a tomato plant. Right. Soand the reason that that
everything is is so mixed up isthat we have in our nature, this
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willingness to settle for thewar consciousness, not work to
get to the left consciousness,you know, we settle for our
petty selves. Yes. A lot offear. There are societal group
mind factors that I'm veryinterested in, obviously,
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because again, we talk about howthe group mind regulates us. And
so we have these beliefs. Likeyou even we're using the word
payback. And I'm like, No,that's kind of a war conscious
idea and itself. Payback. Yes.
It's Crime and Punishment,whereas I'm talking about cause
and consequence. Do you see thedifference? Yes, yes. So it's
like it's built in. So that'swhy we have to think so hard
(37:54):
about it. And we have to take abook, read two pages, look at
it, think about it, go for awalk. Think about it, listen to
a podcast, you know, look at thewords, maybe read it again, do
an exercise. You know, that'swhy it's so much work. It's
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because it's sort of like we arefishing muddy water. And then,
you know, I'm saying, there'smud in the water, more
consciousness and everybody'sgoing, wagging their tails
stirring up the mud going, whatmud? What are you talking about?
What mud? I don't see any mud?
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Do you see any mud? No, I don'tsee any mud. We're all we're all
stirring it up all the time. Soit's that stepping back, chill,
let it settle. And thinkbreathes. So we can let some of
its maybe we can start to noticethe difference between clear
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water and mud. So with
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (39:00):
the CEOs and the leaders that you work
with, what's the kind of workthat you do with those people,
Dr. Teri Baydar (39:06):
they're really on a journey. Most of my clients
are either social entrepreneurs,or HR executives, or learning
and learning and development, alot of them. So they're all
trying to, you know, help shapea company shape a culture in a
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positive direction. And so by,on the one hand, coaching them
and teaching them, all theseconstructs that are in the book,
taking them through thatpersonal journey of elevation,
they get to teach it, Preach itout to whomever and I say preach
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IP, there's no religion behindit. It's just who we are as
humans as we elevate andunderstanding that, by them
modelling Model, they're showingwhat's possible. And, and so
they there, they really get akick out of it.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (40:08):
What kinds of results are they
getting with their teams, a lot
Dr. Teri Baydar (40:12):
of really interesting things happen in all
different ways, you know, theyget a lot more understanding of
who they're dealing withfriction goes way down between
people, creativity goes way up,innovation goes way up, product
development will go way up,because that's all the creative
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side of things, connectivitywill kick in, they'll have,
they'll do more with less,they'll have I don't know, just
a lot of the very simple stuffpeople will will be ill less
people are willing to step upmore. When there's a crises,
they identify more with thecompany. They have what I call
(40:56):
an emotional salary, where asmost people going to their jobs
don't have an emotionalsalaries. But but, you know,
teams working under these kindsof CEOs and HR, directors and
leaders will start to realisethat they have an emotional
salary, because they'll start toget it from just those micro
shifts in culture and behaviourthat are happening around them.
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Yep.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (41:20):
So as individuals, what's a couple of
basic principles that we canapply, like to elevate our
happiness, our impact, orinfluence?
Dr. Teri Baydar (41:31):
Okay, I will go to like the beginning of the
book, the basics, mind, thereare some basic myths, think of
it like it's your mentalemotional landscape, you got to
kind of clear it out, look atwhat's there and pull some of
the weeds, I'm going to pull acouple of weeds. Big one,
massive one, holding you back,the happiness formula lie. The
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happiness formula, which is alie, is that once I get the
right house, the right spouse,the right job, the right dress
size, the right this the rightthat, I just get that gig get
the right, you know, the rightplace, or I get that job, or I
just hit that many followers,then I will have happiness, I
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will be happy. Now that forIsland,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (42:28):
I agree it is a massive myth.
Dr. Teri Baydar (42:32):
Happiness is a state of being it is not
calculate double. And so that isthat left brain kind of I'm
going to adjust it somehow I canquantify by adding up all these
things to equal happiness neverworked for anybody never will.
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And yet, we're so hooked on it.
It is a massive construct of thegroup mind, planet wide. That
gets you stuck and keeps youdown. It is a lie.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (43:16):
It's a lie. It's like getting on a
treadmill and you can't get offbecause you're always looking
for the next. I learned that afew quite a few years ago. Yep.
And you're usually looking forexternal things to make you
happy. They're not internal.
Yeah,
Dr. Teri Baydar (43:33):
yeah. Although I mean, we can also do it with
the internal redesign, you cando it to your mind too, which is
kind of bad, too. We, we need todo a little bit of reshaping in
the mental emotional landscape.
But also going around in yourmental emotional landscape
thinking that it has to beperfect is also like, you cannot
apply the formula to your mindeither. You have to notice the
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reality of your mind and be withit and be okay with it. And
just, you know what, this is whoI am. And this is where I am.
And these are the actualthoughts I'm having. Do I want
to have other thoughts? Yeah,these are not really good ones.
What could I have instead? Whatwould work? I mean, literally
redesigning the thought patternsaround what you're doing? Do we?
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (44:22):
Do we all have the ability to
facilitate this change? Can weall make this change? Or are
there certain personality typesare traits like narcissists or
people who have had some kind ofbrain injury? That's
Dr. Teri Baydar (44:37):
beyond my field? I do know that every
pretty much every normal personthat I've ever met, has been
able to do that. I know certainnarcissists that have been my
clients that have made leaps andbounds. I don't know if those
people would have done it ontheir own. Yes,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (44:56):
yes. You can't prove that. Yes. Yeah.
Dr. Teri Baydar (45:00):
I mean, I put the screws to them. So that's,
you know, they paid me for it.
They wanted it. Yeah, no, no, Ibut I don't know and brain
injuries, I don't know,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (45:14):
what's one way that we can unlock our
confidence. And, and I love thatyou talk about influence let's
let's talk about confidence andinfluence for a second, how can
we shift those? What are thesteps that we can take to shift
those.
Dr. Teri Baydar (45:32):
In part one I talked about the different
personas, and we have a deeppart of ourselves that we need
to explore and nourish. That'swhere confidence comes from.
It's deep within us. It's whenwe're loyal to who we are at our
core, when we reach for calling,and we stopped calculating about
(45:57):
whether or not we should dosomething, but we just know. And
so the whole development isgoing to give every everybody
who does it a an incrementalshift towards the confidence,
because it's all about goinginside. And being who you are,
naturally. The more you do that,the more you are confident,
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because you're not hanging yourhat on something out here, your
head is on your own head, you'rekeeping it to yourself, you're
taking it to a place where youare, you know, and once you're
in that state, and we all moreor less can get there, the book
(46:43):
is the whole how to get there.
The more you do that, the moreyou're confident. The more you
do that, the more you're happyat ease, you have less fear. I'm
actually starting a podcast ofmy my own. And the first episode
is resiliency and leadership.
And it's with two of my clients.
And we go through a lot of thestuff that you go through as my
(47:03):
client and an understanding thatyou become naturally resilient,
you can move with ease andconfidence. Because you've let
go of looking for validation onthe outside, you, you become
self validating, it's but it's aprocess. And that's you know, I
mean, some of the simple thingsis take care of yourself. Self
(47:29):
Care, meditate, meditation,walks in the woods, mindfulness,
mindfulness, think, alsocontemplate. Contemplate your
there's meditation where youdon't think. And then there's
Hey, how about this, think aboutsomething not in a left brain
(47:49):
calculating way but open it up?
What matters?
Dr Marisa Lee Nais (47:57):
daydreaming?
Dr. Teri Baydar (47:58):
Yes, ask yourself some big fuzzy
questions. See what comes up? Mmhmm.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (48:05):
Some of this stuff, people may say, Wow,
this is really woowoo. But youare clearly a highly intelligent
person, you know, your stuff. Iacknowledge all of that. Have
you ever been silenced or peoplelike, tried to quiet new down,
(48:28):
or they've they've felt this istoo much.
Dr. Teri Baydar (48:32):
Not yet too much. I get snarky remarks on
social media. Just talking aboutlove consciousness is enough to
get snarky hateful remarks. Justbecause people in war
consciousness who believe thatthat's the only way to be and
are fully invested in theirdefensiveness and aggression.
(48:56):
They're very disturbed bysomebody going around talking
about love consciousness, andthat we can elevate humans. So,
so far, no biggies?
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (49:12):
Yep.
Yes, yes. What's your vision forhumanity? How would you like to
visualise the world in thefuture?
Dr. Teri Baydar (49:22):
I see. And this is actually something I actually
do for certain people. I foreseewhole industries that are
screaming to be born. Everythingthat centres around
regeneration, regeneration beinglike the centre word there,
(49:47):
regenerative farming,regenerative medicine,
regenerative waste management,regenerative manufacturing, and
the list goes on, there will bea massive shift in economic
model. Right now, historically,we have inherited with inherited
(50:13):
with the patriarchy, you know,because it's a gradual, historic
journey, we have a pyramidsystem that you know, where the
planet is at the bottom whereit's getting trashed, we're
using an extracting, it's anextraction model, where we
extract from the bottom andbring it up to the top, so that
(50:35):
people at the top can renewtheir, their their yachts every
couple of years, or whateverthey're doing with loads and
loads of money. And then thoseat the bottom don't have enough.
But they give their blood sweatand tears to two organisations
that extract their the valuethey add, gets monetized and
(50:56):
goes up to the top. And thismodel will eventually have to
implode. So as I'm working withsocial entrepreneurs, and all of
these people, what we're tryingto do and establish is other
business models and economicstructures. So that we can have
(51:17):
a, like a safety net, aneconomic safety net that allows
when that structuredisintegrates, I would say
preferably over just collapsing,that we will have constellation
fashion, a network of partnership, model, love conscious
(51:41):
models of Business andEconomics, where which is not
based on extraction orexploitation of planet and other
people, or countries. But it'sbased on cooperation, love,
consciousness, creativity, andsynergy where we get added
(52:04):
value, where, by comingtogether, there's added values.
And it's this comp, which sortof compiles because it's all of
these clusters that worktogether. And there are also
internal business models thatsome of us are working on, as
(52:25):
well as to how to internallymake a company profitable in
this in this cluster fashion,because this is the thing,
people get really scared thatthey're going to lose the
profitability, because they'rethinking from their petty self,
what's in it for me, in that warconsciousness, you and I are
separate, somebody's got to win,somebody's got to lose. And
that's what's happening in theextraction model. Now, if we
(52:48):
step out of that, for a minute,we noticed that the value
created is what makes profit. Ifyou're creating a product or a
service that gives value topeople, they're going to
transact and give you money. Andthat transaction will create
(53:09):
profit, that is a given inbusiness, otherwise, you revive
Yes. And so I have to debunkthat all the time with business
people. Because that's theirnumber one fear that comes up
immediately. If I change mybusiness model, I'm not gonna
make money, I'm gonna die. Imake no, you continue to create
(53:30):
value instead of extractingvalue from somebody else's work.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (53:35):
Hmm, interesting. So interesting. So
what do you believe your legacywill be?
Dr. Teri Baydar (53:41):
I hope, my legacy will be that everybody
will walk around talking aboutlove and care and love
consciousness and warconsciousness, and social
constructs, and group mind. Andall of a lot of these concepts
or concepts that I've puttogether. And that that will one
day be common language,
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (54:02):
because they're all new languages.
They're all new words at themoment. Is there anything else
that you wanted to add to thisinterview that we may have not
spoken about?
Dr. Teri Baydar (54:12):
Yeah, in visualising the future, I want
to give you an image, okay. ofone of the things that is
happening here and now with youand me. Right now think of look
at visualise the planet Earth,like the globe. All right. And
there are these golden likethese little fireflies, these
(54:38):
little lights here and there.
Okay, these little golden dotshere and there. And then between
the golden dots that are kind ofscattered all over the planet.
There's one here in Boston andthere's one there in Australia
and there's a line between andthey You cross, and they start
(54:59):
to form this web. And this islike a web of light. This web of
life that people like you areforming podcasts like this are
creating this web of light. AndI believe that this is a
(55:23):
wonderful thing that we're doingall of these little Lightworkers
all over the planet, creatingthis little, this delicate,
seemingly delicate web of light,and that it is going to
contribute massively, to gettingto where what I call pure,
(55:49):
positive, critical mass, in howwe see the world and what we're
doing in it, and how we come tounderstand things like love
consciousness, or you can callit something else, it doesn't
matter. A rose is a rose by anyother name, and that we elevate
together.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (56:12):
Wow, that's incredible. That's
incredible. Well, where canpeople find your book? We will
share the links in the shownotes. But is the book on
Amazon? Or where can they findthe book? Yeah,
Dr. Teri Baydar (56:25):
the book is on Amazon. Flip your switch A
User's Guide to A Whole NewMind. Dr. Terry Vadar. And if
you're interested in coaching,you can find me at White Lily
coaching.com. You can find me onInsta, Dr. Terry Bader one. You
can find me on LinkedIn, Dr.
Terry Vadar. And I now have alsolove conscious human.com, which
(56:52):
is a work in progress. But it'salso where I'm trying to find
ways to consolidate and bringtogether different support
educational support for peoplewho want to go on to love
conscious human path and elevateamazing.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (57:16):
Well, I would love to thank you for your
time, appreciate the work thatyou're doing. It is a whole new
world is opening up a whole newworld. I think I'm going to have
to listen back to this a fewtimes to totally absorb
everything that you've spokenabout. There was so much
(57:37):
information in such a shortamount of time, but I appreciate
you. I appreciate that you'vebeen here spent the time with
me. And wish you all the verybest. Dr. Terry,
Dr. Teri Baydar (57:49):
thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.
Dr Marisa Lee Naismith (57:51):
Okay, take care. Thank you. Bye. Thank
you so much for listening tothis episode of a voice and
beyond. I hope you enjoyed it asnow is an important time for you
to invest in your own self care,personal growth and education.
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