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September 15, 2021 51 mins

On Episode 4 of ‘We’re Not Blowing Hot Air,’ our brain waves tune into the frequency of Dr. Patrick K. Porter, an expert in brain health and wellness, and founder of BrainTap® – a scientifically-proven approach for rewiring your brain. An author, speaker and entrepreneur who is driving positive change and healing, Dr. Porter shares how to improve mental clarity, sleep and energy through breathing and a daily 20-minute audio session that uses light and sound. Guiding your mind from an awake, reactionary state into an intuitive, creative state of heightened consciousness, Dr. Porter’s technology helps you more easily get some of benefits of meditation – and bust bad habits like smoking and stressing out too much. Tap into the power of your own mind and take a deep dive into hypnosis and the subconscious – and rock out with the post-hardcore band, ‘Lost in Prague’ – all on this episode of ‘We’re Not Blowing Hot Air.’

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About Dr. Patrick Porter:

Dr. Patrick K. Porter, PhD, is an award-winning author/speaker and the founder of BrainTap®, the leader in technology-enhanced meditation. Dr. Porter pioneered the use of brainwave entrainment to improve clarity, sleep and energy, and remains at the forefront of scientific research. He founded BrainTap with the goal of making this technology accessible to everyone. BrainTap offers over 1000 original audio sessions in 12 languages and serves a worldwide user base with its mobile app and headset. Dr. Porter has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, People, Entrepreneur, INC and on ABC, NBC, CBS as an expert in brain health and wellness, and in 2020, Dr. Porter received the IAFNR lifetime achievement award. Please visit www.braintap.com

 As Founder and Chief BrainTap Officer at BrainTap™, Dr. Porter created the BrainTap tool and technology with a singular mission: to better a billion brains. With its proprietary app and headset technology, BrainTap enables users to tackle the challenges of today's stressful world and enhance quality of life through improved brain health. With over 1000 uniquely-encoded audio sessions, BrainTap empowers users to reduce stress, sleep better, and maximize performance. Go to www.BrainTap.Pro and download a copy of Dr. Porter’s book, Thrive in Overdrive, and use the BrainTap app free for 15 days to experience how BrainTap can help you.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to we're not blowing hot air
powered by oxygen plus I'm Scottand I'm Lauren.
And we're here to help elevateyour IQ on wellness and business
stuff that sometimesmisunderstood.
Oh,

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Like recreational oxygen.
Yes.
Let's get smarter with this.
Week's guest of we're notblowing hot air.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hey.
Hey,

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I am doing well.
How are you?
Excellent.
Are you saying that?
Just because you're on a podcastand I asked you

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Good.
A hundred percent.
No, I'm good.
I'm good.
Do you know why

Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's not your birthday this week?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
It's not my birthday this week.
You're correct.
Uh, I did breathing exercisesthis morning.
I was going to ask you after ourCharles Mikan episode, Dr.
Charles, we made a pact to dolike breathing exercises.
And, and have you been doing it?
I have.
Have you?
Yes.
Yes.
I have a Wim Hoff in themornings.

(01:03):
Not every morning, but justabout every

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Me too when I don't work out.
I do a whim Hoff session.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah.
Okay.
I've been doing it on workoutdays too, but it's, it's just
kind of like, um, if I, if Ifeel like I need a little extra
boost in the morning, like alittle extra wake up.
Right.
Um, I'll do that.
So I've been doing that and then, um, box breathing to

Speaker 2 (01:27):
A 44 origin, like a

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Rectangle breathing.
I'm doing a four, four.
Okay.
Not the rectangle.
Yeah.
I've been doing a four, fourbreathing.
Um, so yeah.
It's, it's been working out.
What have you been, you've beendoing Wim Hoff.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah.
Right when I'm not, when I don'tdo a hard workout, like rowing
in the morning than I do WimHoff for about, I do four rounds
of it.
I don't do do more than that.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I do the most I'll do it kind of depends.
I'll do at least two, sometimesfour or five.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Okay.
And then this is my nose imagethat I have on my iPhone.
It's a picture of a nose I gotoff of her Instagram page and
just added it to the screensaveron my iPhone.
And I look at that frequentlyand I have been catching myself,
not being in my nose.

(02:20):
And it's been truly restorativeI've um, I'm still in the habit.
I don't think it's been, ithasn't been 30, 21 30 days to
form the habit yet, but I amnoticing how much more aligned.
Um, my spine is.
I feel like I'm more connectedto my diaphragm and even that my
balance is better, but that myjaw is more relaxed too.

(02:43):
And I'm really feeling like justmore of a centerdness with the
nose breathing that I didn'tknow.
I didn't have before.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's great.
That's fantastic.
So it's working.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh, cool.
No, his breathing is the jam isthe jam.
We weren't blowing hot air.
We were not On episode four ofwe're not blowing hot air.
Our brainwaves tune into thefrequency of Dr.
Patrick K.
Porter, an expert in brainhealth and wellness and founder
of brain tap a scientificallyproven approach for rewiring

(03:14):
your brain.
An author, speaker, andentrepreneur who is driving
positive change and healing.
Dr.
Porter shares how to improvemental clarity, sleep and energy
through breathing and a daily 20minute audio session that uses
light and sound guiding yourmind from an awake reactionary
state into an intuitive creativestate of heightened

(03:35):
consciousness.
Dr.
Porter's technology helps youmore easily get some of the
benefits of meditation and bustbad habits like smoking and
stressing out too much.
Tap into the power of your ownmind and take a deep dive into
hypnosis and the subconsciousand rock out with post hardcore
band lost in Prague.
All in this episode of we're notblowing hot air.

(03:59):
It is an honor to introduce theaward-winning author educator,
entrepreneur motivationalspeaker, and the 2020 lifetime
achievement award recipient ofthe international association of
functional neurologist.
Dr.
Patrick Porter,

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Dr.
Porter, you've been featurednumerous times in the wall
street journal and businessweek.
We've developed a widely popularand highly regarded brainwave
technology product called braintap.
And now you're the special gueston the, we're not blowing hot
air podcast.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Great to be here.
Yeah.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Most people probably ask you about brain tap, how it
works, its benefits.
But before we get into that, um,maybe let's get a little
personal we'll we'll roll itback a little bit and maybe talk
a little bit about childhood.
Uh, we understand your fatherwas a hypnotist.
Um, how old were you and whatdid he teach you?

(04:58):
What did you learn from this?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Well, before he became a hypnotist, he was
actually a Silva mind controlinstructor, which now they call
it the Silva method because itsounds better than mine control,
but it was a meditation processand he actually was a chronic
alcoholic.
So he, when he got help, becausethe elders from the church came
over, sister, sister, Mary andfather Fitzpatrick took him to a

(05:21):
seminar that taught him how torelax.
He came home and said, wow, ifthis is good enough for me, it's
good enough for my whole family.
There were nine of us kids.
So, uh, he went through thattraining and he started doing
seminars all over lowerMichigan.
And of course we helped set upchairs and I've probably been
through the Silva method atleast 300 or 400 times.
And then I started teaching itwith him.

(05:42):
But in the process of doingthat, he said, oh, I really
liked this.
What's the, you went back toschool.
And because he was a serialworker, we were from battle
Creek, Michigan.
So there wasn't a lot going onthere, but cereal there we're
known for our cereals.
And so he was working there andhe wanted to get out of it.
So we went back to school,became a psychologist, but he
specialized in hypnotherapybecause he knew that he could

(06:04):
get their most rapid resultsthere.
And so, uh, and then of course Iwas never going to do it.
Dad did, but here I am.
Part of, part of what we learnedwas something, uh, meditation's
using GSR machines, which meansgalvanic skin response systems.
So you could actually put yourfingers on, you could still get

(06:24):
these on Amazon, by the way, fora couple of hundred dollars, you
put your fingers on them and youset it for, let's say 10 cycles,
which is alpha.
It'll make a pulsing sound.
And that sound, once you turn itoff, that means you're at that
brainwave.
So you can meditate.
And as soon as you get a littleanxious or you drop a little too
low, it starts beeping again.
So it's a biofeedback that therewas no neurofeedback back then.

(06:47):
And that really got me into it.
And then, um, because my dad,the voices I had in my head of
my dad were not all loving andkindness.
In fact, I jokingly say that weused a lot of four-letter words,
but none of them were loved the,uh, you know, because he was an
alcoholic, you know, he, he hadhis problems, but when he got
better, I still was seeing himas alcoholic, not as this guy

(07:08):
who got help.
So he trained me to make my ownfirst, my first affirmation tape
that I ever made for those thatremember cassettes, that was a
cassette player that would wakeme up in the morning and he
would help me structure myaffirmations.
I would get up listening to myaffirmations from the age of 12
and I still do it today.
I still have a process of doingthat when I go to bed and my

(07:29):
wife, we've been married now for32 years, she's gotten used to
hearing my affirmations.
I said, she can always add inhers, but she'd rather have just
silence.
So I have it just barely goingover on my side of the bed.
And I still listened to thoseaffirmations every day.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
So, um, that's your, let me get this straight.
So your dad made a turn fromalcoholism in his life.
His behavior changed you, youwere a child impressed
impressionable, and so obviouslyneeded more assurance, right?
Like, and, and he helped you.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
I tell people that he , he spent an hour at a seminar
and he's now helping millions ofpeople, you know, because he
helped me.
And most of my family isinvolved in one form or another
with the business of, of helpingpeople.
That's what we do now.
So, and we find that that's notonly satisfying, but we make a
living at it.
So that's good too.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah.
I that's, there's nothing betterthan, than being able to help
people with your product andservice.
Um, that's something that that'swhy oxygen plus does what it
does.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Absolutely.
That's, that's great.
And that's a fascinating storytoo, um, in, in overcoming
something like that and, andultimately helping people,
helping you, and then you'vetaken that on and put that into
your own work.
And, and that's fantastic.
So, you know, obviously that,that, um, motivated and, and,

(08:56):
uh, kind of shaped what you dowith your career and your
aspirations

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Happened to the other seven children.
Are they all,

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Three of them worked for me, still, the others are in
different groups.
Some are in the medical world,you know, helping people in that
way, but they all still do someform of relaxation.
They all have the BrainTap ofcourse cause family, but they,
they all use, they all stillpractice.
You know, they know that ifsomebody gets stressed, in fact,

(09:27):
my son who's an it person, buthe knows he married a
psychologist.
And so, but he was helping herthrough college, which he was
all stressed out to this.
My dad knows these techniques.
Let me teach you this, this, youknow, in teaching her how to
manage your stress.
Even though he, he went moreinto the computer, I was, my
first degree is in electronics.

(09:48):
So he took that route because Ilove electronics and all of that
back, nothing like we have todayback then, but, you know, it was
more like CB radios and, uh, youknow, fixing you can't fix TVs
anymore.
That's what we used to do backin the seventies and eighties.
And that's where it was my firstundergraduate degree.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, Dr.
Porter, and do you want us tocall you Dr.
Porter or Patrick on this?

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Um,

Speaker 2 (10:10):
See that awesome.
Patrick w are you in addition tothe, the brain app technology,
which do you use by the wayyourself?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Oh yeah.
I, I, I jokingly tell peoplewhen I'm asked, is it addictive?
I said, I don't know.
I've been doing it since 1986.
You know, when I, when weinvented the very first one of
these models, we built it in theback office of my clinic in
Scottsdale Arizona.
We made the first thousand therewith radio shack parts.
I've been doing it ever since.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
So in addition to that, do you do other wellness
techniques that help you withstress and other wellness?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yes.
For sure.
Um, I'm a big advocate of theheartfelt meditation, um,
dodging, who does it, I've beenover D and D of speaking in
front of his groups.
He's, he's allowed me to speakin front of 25,000 people live,
which is the biggest group I'veever spoken in front of.
But India brings out the biggestgroups.
I spoke one time inside apyramid that help 5,000 people
in India, which was prettyincredible, pretty cool

(11:09):
experience.
Um, but also I do a lot ofhacking if you call it, if you
want to call it that we didn'tknow that I like to help
optimization kind of better as abetter word.
Cause some of our people don'tlike the word hack, but, uh,
we've been doing this when I wasgrowing up actually in high
school, there was a guy namedEuell Gibbons.
I don't know if you remember himor even heard about him, but he

(11:31):
used to do the great nutscommercials.
And so the big joke was when Igraduated, I was going to
replace, you will given somegreat commercials because I, I
was before I was a three sportcaptain, I went from being a,
nobody, really to being a threesport captain and getting a
scholarship to college becauseof what I did with using my mind
and visualizing.

(11:51):
And of course I worked out, Iphysically worked out.
I didn't just think about it.
I actually took action.
And, but I took a lot ofnutrition in my older brother,
Michael, who still works with us.
He's our educational director.
He made me fill out my form.
I workout sheet.
And every week I would Cindy myworkout sheet.
If I did eat paper, all mysupplements.
So he was in the air force.

(12:12):
So every week I, this was beforeemail, of course I'm dealing in
this and he's ordering all mysupplements and my coach, I
still remember him saying,Patrick, don't let them see you
taking those.
They're going to think they'redrugs.
Cause he goes, I was, I waspretty fast.
I was undefeated in the quartermile when I was in high school.
So the, um, you know, thesekinds of things, they think
you're doing something illegalif you're doing that.
But basically I was visualizingit and eating a lot of you do a

(12:34):
lot with nutrition to keep downmy physical stress.
I also do PMF, a lot ofsupplementation.
I'm a big believer that we can'tget it from the foods we're
eating.
We've got to supplement.
There's no way.
Now, if anybody does anyresearch that we get it from,
even if you ate on all theperimeter aisles and every
grocery store in the world, youwouldn't be able to do it

(12:55):
without supplementation.
So we do that.
We call that actually the firstwave of wellness, you, you
can't, you can't out think so.
I mean, you, you can, peoplebelieve they can.
They think they're like SaintGermain and they can, uh, you
like smoke cigarettes and behealthy.
Um, you can smoke cigarettes,but you're not going to be
healthy because the cigarettedoesn't have a bad day.

(13:17):
You do.
So, you know, you can, you cando what I always tell people is
you want to minimize thelandlines, which like eating
sugar, um, not getting activity.
The other thing is we, like, Ialways say, uh, one of the
things I do to reduce stress ora couple of things is I like
yoga.
I was fortunate enough to trainwith Yogi Bhajan in Arizona for

(13:37):
five years before I was married.
I'd get up at three 30 in themorning and do it.
And so I still practicerestorative yoga because I'm not
as young as I used to be.
And then, uh, I was fortunateenough and I go to India all the
time.
So I get to work with a lot ofthe gurus and things over there
and really understand that.
But then, uh, I also have beento Wu-Tang mountain where Tai
Chi was started.

(13:58):
So I trained there for 30 dayswith the, with the dollars
because I was in a Kung Fumovie.
But I went through that with mykids.
Um, we did martial arts andbecame black belts because I
wanted us to do something as afamily and to build that it's
also a brain training whenyou're doing yoga, uh, some kind
of Tai Chi or even dance.
So I tell people you've got tomove and breathe.

(14:19):
So every day on my agenda issome way to move and breathe.
If you don't move and breathe,get oxygen to your cells,
they're not going to live verylong.
So, uh, we want to keep them inthe healthiest state possible.
So we believe that the secondwave of wellness is physical
fitness.
So you've got to do that, butyou can't, if you don't have the

(14:39):
mindset, that's what we call thethird wave of wellness.
That's what we think right now.
We're in the midst of arevolution as far as wellness is
concerned, because everybody'sreally concerned about the
brain, especially so many babyboomers are getting into that
age where they're findingdementia and Alzheimer's is
lurking in.
There are a lot of things we cando.
I like to inform people that, um, you know, the ancient tribes,

(15:03):
didn't entrust the history ofthe tribe to the youngsters.
They gave it to the elders.
So that must mean that we're notsupposed to lose our memories.
We're supposed to have sharpminds until we decide to go onto
the next evolution, whateverthat is, you know, or die.
However you want to look atthat.
So I believe that we're now in aplace where we got to do all
three of these.
If you can't just do one of it,like you can't just do your

(15:26):
mind.
You can have a good life, butyou're, but if you're eating
garbage, it's not going to worktoo.
Well, if you're not physicallymoving and breathing, that's not
going to be good too.
So you got to have all three ofthese lined up so you can live
your best life.
Now

Speaker 1 (15:40):
They, uh, they say that, you know, they don't teach
mindset in schools and thingslike that.
And do you think some of thoseother wellness factors, you
know, diet moving your body andstuff like that, do you, do you
kind of agree with that?
Like mindset should be taught inschools and those types of
things should be taught inschools and there should be more
emphasis put on that.
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, I think that we should take out all, uh,
basically first let's start withnutrition.
They've got it all wrong becausethey're letting the milk and
dairy industry a control ofwhat's talked about in schools.
They're letting money dictatewhat's being taught, not
science.
The science, the science wouldbe let's get rid of all the
sugar in the school systems.

(16:23):
I mean, when you let Coca-Colasoda machines, which is probably
the bane of our existence,probably the worst thing that
has ever happened to the planetis a soda pop.
And I drank my share of it whenI was younger, but that's the
worst thing.
And so I think that number one,number two is we need, we should
be learning proper physicalfitness.

(16:43):
They're taking that out of theschools today.
My, my grandkids don't havephysical education.
I would describe it to aCatholic school.
So we had cause ed per an hour,we had recess people.
We got to move, right?
And then obviously they're notbeing taught.
People nowadays are beingtaught.
What to think, not how to think.
And that's part of the mindsetthere.

(17:05):
They call it the dumbing down ofAmerica.
Unfortunately.
So what, what, we're what we'retalking about here.
When a Harvard constructorthat's been teaching critical
thinking for 30 years gets firedbecause he wants them to apply
critical thinking to whathappened in 2020, we've got a
real issue.
We've got an issue with peoplecontrolling our planet.
So we need to teach the mindsetshould be, nothing is true until

(17:27):
you prove it's true for you,just like a biohacker would do.
I'm not going to take anysupplementation unless I can
verify it with my heart rate,variability, let's say, or my my
Wabi brain tap or whatever we'redoing.
There's ways to measure improve.
And what they're doing now isthey're saying they're actually
rewriting history.
So people aren't even learninganything at all.

(17:48):
There a hundred years ago, theaverage person ate five pounds
of sugar a year.
Now the average person needsover a hundred pounds a year.
And they're wondering why

Speaker 2 (18:01):
To a hundred, five pounds to a hundred.
Do you happen to know Patrick,how many ounces of cheese, a
human eats in a year?
So it's 40.4 pounds of cheese,2019 fact from a random Google
search.
It's statistica.com actually 40pounds of cheese, a hundred

(18:24):
pounds of sugar.
And we are not healthy.
Our brains are weak in general.
I mean, not us Scott and I, wedo breathing.
We were serious about nutritionand we, um, we move, I couldn't
agree with you more.
And I love Dr.
Port, I mean, sorry, Patrick wonthat first name.

(18:46):
We're old friends.
Um, I love Patrick that you havenever, or like, I can't say
you've never deviated, butyou're you have part of your
approach in developing what your, your product is now and all,
and all that offers is, isrooted in a holistic wellness.
I think that's, that's importantfor our listeners to know that

(19:06):
it's, it's about your life.
It's about your own best life.
And, and this is part of a toolthey can add to their toolbox.
And, and I loved it.
We would love to get more intowhat brain tap is.
Um, I will say that the sleep isthe sleep app, which won an
award, a men's health magazineas one of the best sleep apps.

(19:29):
Um, we'd love to hear especiallyabout that, because I believe
that you said in one of yourprevious talks, that there was,
um, that we used to sleep twotimes longer than we do now.
And I think that's phenomenal tothink about and consider.
Um, so let's maybe start withsleep, but talk about how the
brain app BrainTap app works.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Sure.
First, let me throw down alittle stats for your listeners.
They did a research study withNBA players.
These are all world eliteathletes.
They had them sleep one hourlonger.
You wouldn't think that wouldhave any difference in what, how
they play.
These are elite players.
They improve their free-throwshooting by 10%.
They're three they're they'refree throw shooting by 10%.

(20:11):
Their free-throws, there arethree point shooting by over
10%.
Their, um, completed passes byover 15% just by getting one
hour of sleep longer.
And these are elite athletes.
So what could we do?
So a hundred years ago, again,we would think, gosh, what would
happen?
We were sleeping 12 hours a day.
So that's the average person.

(20:32):
But if you think about it, wehad to burn candles.
Then there weren't as many lightbulbs.
Now we just turn on the lightsand leave them on and work.
Our brain doesn't know thatnight.
It started our night used to bewatching a crackling fire.
When the fire went out, we'd goto bed.
We'd wake up at sunrise andeverything worked great.
So what happens is that throwsoff our security clock, right in

(20:53):
the circadian rhythm.
Isn't just in our brain, it's inevery cell.
So every cell has anintelligence.
They call it there's a celldanger response, which means the
cells of our body do whatthey're supposed to do based on
the light they're receiving.
So we are light sensitive.
So when you think about everycell has something, they call
chroma forms, which means thatit's a battery.

(21:15):
So think about it.
Like every cell has a batterythat absorbs light and absorbs
red and blue light.
Primarily.
That's why we use red and bluelights with brain cap.
And the reason it does that isthose are the most precious
light sunrise and sunset becausethey signal different indicators
to our body.
The one at night tells our bodyto start making melatonin.
So if we're not in bed before,let's say eight to two o'clock

(21:38):
in the morning.
So it's widespread that you cango the sooner you're in bed, the
better, I'm not going to go tosleep at eight o'clock.
I went to bed at nine o'clock,even in school.
So I'm going to, you know, Imight skip to 10 30, 11, but I'm
going to get my seven, eighthours sleep.
You know, whatever you need whenyou're doing that, what happens
is you're going throughdifferent cycles.
So I'm going to just talk justfor a minute about brainwaves.

(22:00):
So there's four primarybrainwaves we talk about, and
there's a fifth.
It's just coming on the scene.
That's very popular calledgamma.
Maybe we'll get to that later,but the, where we're at right
now, we're in a state calledbeta.
That's our reactionary mind whensomebody has a problem sleeping,
they're locked in thatreactionary mode.
So their brain can't shift years.
It can't downshift.

(22:20):
In other words, like, like a carroad, uh, it's more like a
standard transmission instead ofthe automatic, those people that
sleep well, they just downshiftthere.
They then go into alpha.
Alpha is a time where you'regoing to be in an intuitive
space.
You're also going to startcreating by the way in beta, you
create dopamine.
So that's why we have all thesedopamine addictions.

(22:40):
You know, that everything isdriven by dopamine and we get
addicted to it.
And if you wonder if you'readdicted to dopamine, send a
text to a family member.
And if you don't get a responseright away and you get anxious,
you probably have an addictionbecause as soon as you get that
responsible, all right, theylove me and you start texting
them back.
So, but when you get into LPAA,you start to create a seat of

(23:01):
combing.
This is also a feeling thatgives you joy.
And that's why we get thisrestorative sleep.
So we're going through thiscycle.
We go down into feta data,produces Gabba.
Gabba is a precursor to DMT.
Our brain produces its own DMP.
So that gives us our dreams.
So when somebody is taking themolecule DMT, that's because our

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brain has receptors for back.
And we have these out-of-bodykind of experiences if you've
done that.
But we do that every night whenwe sleep.
And then we hit Delta.
When we get the deepest levelsof Delta, that's when our brain
actually detoxes.
So in 2016, American scientificcame out within their journal
and said, we now have the Leialymphomic system.

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Now we've always had a lymphaticsystem for those out there that
had physiology in schooleverywhere.
There's a blood vessel.
There has to be a lymphaticvessel.
It's kind of, that's the, it'skind of like Disneyland.
You don't see where the trashgoes, but it's, it's underneath
the city, right?
So in our body, we have thistrash.
Basically the lymphatic systemworks like the trash man takes

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out the trash and it's next toevery blood vessel to do that.
But in the brain, it worksdifferently.
It stays closed.
Just like we, we lock outnutrients from the brain, they
call it the blood brain barrier.
We also have this with the gliallymphomic system, but only when
we're in level four sleep, doesthis get released?
Now they're showing there aresome supplements that can
release it.

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Now there's also like lymphaticmassage that can release it.
They're finding new ways to doit.
Cause we have to detox thisbrain of ours because just the
everyday use of our brain, everycell unfortunately has to poop.
And that stuff has to gosomewhere.
So if the lymphoma, if it's, ifit's clogged up, we're going to
have foggy brain, poor memory,poor concentration, poor sleep,

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because the brain is thinkingI've got to stay busy.
I got to sleep.
But what really needs is torelease that in dumping.
Now it only does these in microburst.
So when you get these, what theycall Delta burst, you also get
on the other end of the spectrumof gamma burst.
Now gamma is associated withhigh spiritual experiences, high
creativity, breakthroughthinking.

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So that's why we get thosebreakthroughs.
When we sleep.
You know, some people get theseprophetic dreams and things like
that, but that cycle, it doesn'tonly happen once it happens up
to eight times or more at night.
Now, if it's happening less thanthat, that people don't get the
proper amount of sleep.
And so we need at least an hourof deep sleep, two hours of REM
sleep.
If that, if it combined it'sabout three hours, we knock it

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out of the park with our sleepscores.
And I just posted mine from lastnight, I had a 92 sleep score
and a 93 recovery score, whichis kind of hard to do with a bio
strap.
But

Speaker 2 (25:45):
You were a bio strep or I wear an aura ring

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Or rings the same thing.
It's really good.
You can test it on there to, uh,just to your heart rate before
and after.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah.
Okay.
Most people is it quality.
And so mostly when they go tosleep, they may be in bed for 10
hours, but they're not sleeping.
So how do we, how do we get thequality with the quantity sorted
out?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
It starts actually with breathing first, when
you're in bed, I alwaysrecommend people do the four
eight breathing when they, whenthey hit the pillow.
And because when you breathe in,your audience might know this
already, but when you read itin, you're triggering the
sympathetic system.
So we're exercising the nervoussystem.
When we read it out to themetric of eight, we're

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exercising the parasympatheticsystem, while we're breathing,
we can do a body scan.
What most people do is theythink they're supposed to go to
sleep in blackout to the world,but really we need to prepare
our bodies for sleep.
So it starts about an hour ortwo before sleep.
But when you, you know, you haveto turn off the lights send, we
don't watch the news, thingslike that.
But as soon as you get in bed,that's your time to prepare your

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body, think of your body, like acapacitor it electronic circuit,
a capacitor holds a charge untilpreset point.
Some people clench their teeth.
When they sleep, they wake upwith their hands in a fist.
They basically have beenfighting all night long because
they never unweilding theirbody.
They never unwelcomed theirnervous system.
And breathing is so key to that.

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So when you do this breathingtechnique and you scan your
body, most people find theydon't make it up to their hips,
maybe after they practice.
But some people will get all theway to their head.
If that happens, what I say is,then you start to do a review of
your day because nobody's beentrained really to process their
day.
If you process your day, you'regoing to have a phenomenal
memory.
You're going to wake up withhappier and healthier than ever

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before.
Because if there was a positiveexperience, if you can
accentuate it by making it alittle brighter, stepping into
it, reliving it, really honoringthat positive moment.
Maybe when you loved her, youhugged a loved one, or you got a
gift or you got a call fromsomebody.
Whatever made you feel joyfulthat day with gratitude.
We know that when we measureHRVs, if we have people

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meditating or visualizinggratitude and love that
phenomenal things happen ontheir HRV.
This, this heart that we havethat has a brain in it.
It has 4,000 to treat ourselves.
It actually controls the show.
That's why there's more heartattacks on the Monday morning
than any other day of the week.
It's communicating with hisbrain up here.
So when we're doing that in atnight, we're setting it up.

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Now we're setting up our dreamsequence.
Any negative thing thathappened, we have to do.
What's called a reframe.
What a reframe means in, in mybook, my first book I've written
nine of them, but my first bookis awaken the genius.
I have a chapter in there thatsays I was blessed to be the son
of an alcoholic in not that Ifelt that way when I was 11.

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But when I look back, as Stevejobs says, all the dots,
connect, looking back, notlooking forward.
So if you can connect the dots.
So a reframe means I had to havethat experience to bring me to
this moment in time where Icould be on this radio show,
proving to people that I'm notjust blowing hot air, right?
All these things, all thesethings, all these things happen.

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And so when I'm at night, if Ihad a negative experience or
maybe I acted out of character,I lost my, my stuff.
So all those things, I canreplay that in my mind and make
it a lesson learned.
Because if I don't learn fromthat experience, it's not just a
cliche that says, if you don'tlearn from the past, you're
doing to relive it.
Your brain sets up thebehaviors.

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It says, wow, that's the way yourespond.
But if you reframe it, itdoesn't know the difference
between real or imagined.
So we can train the brain toprocess the day.
And once you, as you train it,but what happened is you're
unwinding sequence.
We'll have you reviewing yourday, remembering all the
positive experiences reframingthe negative.

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Now you go to sleep, feelinggood, feeling, positive, feeling
grateful.
Now your dreams are going to befilled with much more joy and
love and satisfaction.
You're going to wake up withmore energy and you're going to
get those deep, those good, deepsleep scores on your aura ring.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
And look at that.
You said, look at the HRV, theheart rate variability before
and after it.
So when you go to bed in themorning, the last test, the last
piece of the sleep protocolyou're talking about, okay, now
the other thing

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I was just going to say, it's not uncommon to, if
you had a stressful day thatyour heart rate variability
might go down, but you should beable to, especially through
breathing techniques, bring itback up to whatever your normal
is.
And then we always try to getpeople to 80 plus, you know, and
their HIV score, whether it'sthe or written bio strap, or are
we going to have our own devicethat we that's a clinical device

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that measures these, thesethings that gives us a score
from zero to 100.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I'd love to get into that is that brain tap.
Okay, let's get into brain tap,but one maybe piece of warning
or a word of warning.
I want to maybe put out therethat you could talk about.
Patrick is the setting of thealarm before you go to that, can
you, can you, cause that wasreally striking to me and it's
so resonated.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah.
There's something calledanticipatory stress, right?
So sometimes it can be evenpositive stress, like the
anticipatory stress of a weddingor an anniversary or something
like that.
And you're preparing for it.
That's usually called usestress, which is good stress,
but there's also negative stressthat we anticipate.
So you set your alarm, let's sayyou set it for six o'clock.

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You know that alignment's goingto Blair in the morning, it's
going to rock your world.
It's going to put your nervoussystem on red alert.
And then you're going to try tofigure out where you're at and
you don't give your body anytime to adjust or acclimate to
this space and time.
And what happens is from thatpoint on your nervous system has
to realign.
And this throws off the brainbecause it's, it's basically

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putting you in high alert.
It's turning on your sympatheticsystem when we really want to
wake up gently.
So what I recommend is either noalarm at all, which is the way I
do it, or at least change youralarm setting to some music that
is positive.
You know, something thatmotivates you in the morning,
whatever your song is like, uh,you know, if a band woke you up

(32:14):
to your favorite music, whatwould that be in?
And don't put it on such a highsetting and just condition
yourself to wake up.
There's there's ways you can dothat.
But if you wake up the way youwake up, there's people that
say, oh, I woke up on the wrongside of the bed or whatever.
No, you woke up on the same sideof the bed.
You just maybe had a bad dreambefore you woke up or you

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something triggered youremotional state.
You can, we live in such awonderful world that we can set
our intention every morning, bythe first thing we hear in the
morning.
So in my case, I I'm going toget up and do my affirmations
are playing right.
They're always playing.
So if I wake up at night or Iwake up in the morning, I can
just take a moment, own those onthose.

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A permanent statements,basically load up all the
motivation I need for the dayand go get after it.
That's the way I feel.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
So I'm what I'm taking from.
This is, uh, I most likelyshould not set an alarm and it's
okay if I'm late to work becauseof it, because I'll be in a
better mental state.
Is that what?

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, that's the first thing.
Deepak Chopra actually has areally good way to figure out
how much time do you reallytruly need to sleep, but it
takes your vacation to do it.
So when you're on vacation, youdon't have to wake up to
anything, go to sleep at yournormal time.
The worst, the worst thing youcan do is get off your body, but
go to sleep.
If you're used to going to bedat 11 or 12, whatever time it

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is, go to sleep at that time,let yourself unwind, wake up at
your time.
But as soon as you wake up, jumpout of bed, the problem people
most people have in the morningis they look over, they go, oh,
I can squeeze 10 more minutes.
And then you start anothercycle.
And if you wake up in a downcycle, you will never get energy
throughout the day,

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Your energy,

Speaker 3 (34:02):
You wake up in an up cycle.
If you wake up in an up cycle,even in the middle of the night,
you will have more energy thanyou ever thought possible
because sleep, it's not abouttime.
It's about quality.
The U S military approved.
You only need four hours ofsleep in battle time conditions.
So if you're not in a war timeexperience, you don't even need
that much sleep, but we're soaccustomed.

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Now the best sleep like I saidin the study is probably between
seven and eight hours is bestfor most people.
They find in our day and age,the average person is only
getting six and two out of threepeople in America.
Anyway, aren't even sleepingsex.
So we have a real issue herewith sleep.
And maybe let's say you set thatalarm and you're going to scare

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the crap out of yourself in themorning.
So you can even sleep deepbecause you know, at any moment,
this year in a timeless place orany moment you're going to be
stirred.
So what I would say is pick apiece of music.
Don't have your alarm playerlike E you know, pick a piece of
music you like, because if youhave any smartphone, although I

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usually recommend not having thephone in your real leader, um,
this is something maybe we canshare with them.
We did an experiment.
We took people's phones and weput it outside of the room.
And we, we had them on a pieceof equipment.
They've measured, EEG activity,every time, their phone in the
other room, deigned, their brainhad a cortical response.

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So there was quantumentanglement between their
electronic devices in their bed.
So if anything also turn yourphone off, put it on mode, and
then you can use it in yourroom.
Cause it won't give you thenotifications, put your cancel
on notifications and then set itto whatever your favorite
motivational song is.
If I do have at times likefinally going to sleep for three

(35:52):
hours, because I'm betweenflights or something like that,
I usually play the star warstheme.
So I feel like I'm going off tothe battle of the Jedi, you
know, or be one of the jetties,you know, going out there,
handling the officers orwhatever.
I just kind of think of thosekinds of weird things just to
set my brain up so that I'mmotivated in the morning.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, that's, that's really cool.
I, I, so I've transitioned, uh,not recently, but a while back,
but, you know, I, I noticed whenI transitioned from like a
typical beeping alarm clock tomy alarm is now kind of a, kind
of a mellow piano music thatcomes on.

(36:33):
I do hate waking up less.
I don't throw my smartphone.
Like I wanted to throw my alarmclock on the wall, but I did
notice that.
And, and, and here's, here's,what's interesting though that,
um, this is kind of,backstepping a little bit, but I
typically sleep like six and ahalf hours.
There are times when I don'tsleep that long.

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And I feel like throughout theday I have a little more energy
than the times that I mightsleep that six and a half hours
or more.
That's really interesting to me.
And I think sometimes I convincemyself that I'm in a bad mood
because I didn't sleep theamount of time that I wanted.
Like if I wake up a half an hourbefore my alarm goes off, if I

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really step back and think aboutit and go, I actually feel like
I have more energy.
So would that mean that I justgot better quality sleep that
night?
Or maybe I did, you know, themeditation before and breathing
the night before that just putme in that state.
I mean, what could I take awayfrom that?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I think you woke up an up cycle and you, you can
program your up cycles.
That's one of the things we'vetaught in Silva.
We call it weight control andsleep control.
So you can, you can visualizethe time you want to wake up in
the morning with energy in yourbody will make itself because
your subconscious is alwayslistening and saying, Hey, what

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do you want to have happen inthe next day of your life?
It's always programming yourfuture.
So if you, if you look forwardto the morning of getting up, in
fact, my wife doesn't settlearms either, but she'll settle a
lot, but you'll always wake upbefore it goes off.
Cause she hates the sound of it.
And so there, you know, butshe'll wake up.
She loves her sleep more than Ido.

(38:17):
I mean, she'll, she likes tosleep a lot longer than I do.
And you know, I can get by onsix hours.
No problem.
Just like what you're saying, aslong as I wake up in an up
cycle.
So just kind of think aboutthat.
The way we would do it is whileyou're doing your meditation,
like the night before, visualizethat time in the morning,
visualize you're full of energyand then your subconscious will

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work out all the details.
You don't have to worry abouthow that's going to happen.
The subconscious gnomes.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah.
Okay.
So I should feel, I should feelokay about that.
If I wake up at five, but myalarm was set for five 30 or
something, then I should be okaywith waking up that

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Early.
You're in charge.
I'm in charge.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
If anything, I would get up out of bed and go sit in
the chair, go do a meditation orbreathing exercise.
Cause you'll get more of thatthan laying back in bed because
you're telling your body whileI'm in bed, I'm sleeping and
you'll condition your body tosleep the whole time you're in
bed rather than laying there.
Cause you have a half hour leftand waking up in the middle of
that sleep cycle.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Awesome.
So what I'm hearing, I hope ourlisteners take away, make your
sleep cycle, the practice ofroutine, make it a ritual, give
yourself that love and thatimportance to do those things,
to breathe, to do a body scanand to not set your alarm in the
morning and really just programyourself mentally.
And, and we're, we'll get intothe subconscious more, but let

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your brain start to know it'sgoing to wake up in a way where
you have energy for the wholeday.
Um, so that's all our on ourown, not even with the
technology that you'vedeveloped, why don't you share
how this is essentially a hackto help him and do other things
better?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
All right.
What we found out back startingin a 40, but I admitted the
first MC square is what wecalled the Proust brain tap.
Really?
What if you call it that?
But what we found was that thebody, our bodies are listening
all the time and we hear over25,000 pieces of information
every second.
But our brain is really good atfiltering out the noises.

(40:17):
We don't want to hear.
So if you were at a restaurant,let's say talking to each other
and then somebody three tablesover says, I just went through
this breath class.
That might, you might go, whoa,you heard that, but you didn't
hear the rest of theconversation because, well, we
have this thing called thereticular activating system or
they call it the primitivereflexes of the brain.

(40:38):
And what it's doing is itwhatever's most important for
you.
It's listening in theenvironment for that.
It's like buying a new car andyou drive it off the lot and to
see five or six of them down theroad while you're driving home.
But you thought you were theonly one that found this car on
the, on the lot, like the onlymade one, you know, at the Ford
dealership.
So, but what happens is that thebrain is listening.

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So because the brain is alwaysdoing this, what we had to do
was we had to figure out how canwe get a cortical response?
Which means a deep brainresponse from the subconscious
part of our body.
This is what we're calling thelimbic brain.
So we send a signal in, we dothis in four ways with brain tap
.
One is called binaural beats.
One is called vice chronictones.
What is called?

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So PGO frequencies.
What is called those Jfrequencies.
And then you can also add in 10cycle music.
So we have these five ways withsound that we train the brain.
Now, when we talk about brainfitness, we're talking about
training the brain.
So to give you an, what we didwith brain tap, where we did an
experiment, we took 15 minutesof music, really good, relaxing

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music.
There's something called theMozart effect.
When you listen to this 10,second music, you're actually
smarter.
So we took, we took 10 people inour pilot study, which is now
150 person study at Valenciacollege in Florida.
But what we did was we took thefirst five minutes.
We got a baseline HRV.
We also were measuring brainwaveactivity.

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And then we had them listen tothe music as expected.
Their HIV increased the personpathetic, uh, responded there's
synthetics reduced.
All these things happened whilethey were listening to the music
after it was done, they wentright back to their same brain
state, no change.
But when we introduced the soapfor five minutes, we had a five

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minute wash out, no change.
We took that same piece of musicand we buried in the background
of that music, our algorithm,which is the way we mix this
music in all these binauralbeats nights, chronic coals.
It's a, it's a mix it's kind oflike mixing any piece of music,
all the different orchestrapieces.
We put that in the background.
We found that yes, they had thesame kind of response when they

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listened to it.
Maybe a little bit deeperbecause we were encouraging them
to go to ALPA beta.
And then when it was done, whatwe, what happened is exactly
what we hoped would happen istheir brain didn't go back their
brain state at that level.
It stayed in that optimumlearning level.
And what we found out is thehalo effect of a brain session

(43:02):
at 72 hours.
So it took 72 hours for thebrain to go back to what it was
like in the first place.
So that's why we call it brainfitness.
Now, if you interrupt thatpattern and you keep practicing
every day, it never gets to goback to where it was.
And we get a new baseline.
We found that took 40 days.
So 30 days of training, you canbasically create your new mind

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that that it's operating at apeak performance level, whether
you're doing it in the morning.
So what's happening at night iswhen we also introduce light to
the equation in this onlyhappened in the eighties before
the eighties, we could just usesound, but in, in the eighties,
we could look at a candle.
If you've ever watched a candleflicker, there's something
called the Jyoti meditation,where you look at a candle and

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you do breath work.
And while you're looking at thecandle, you breathe out and the
candle just kind of Plickers.
And while you're doing that, butmost people don't know is our
brain is designed to mimic ormatch all the frequencies in its
environment.
So if you and I were on myspaceship, flying to earth, and
we were to measure the frequencyresponse of our planet.
Here we go from 0.05 to 100.

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So our brain would match that.
If we're sitting by a volcano,that's going up, it might be a
hundred.
If we're sitting in a dead zoneon the planet would be 0.05.
If we're sitting by the ocean,it'd be can Hertz frequency.
If we're meditating on amountain would be 7.8, Hertz
frequency, the Schumannfrequency.
So our brain matches these.
So what we're doing with theBrainTap is we're using light.
Everything in the known universeis light sound and vibration.

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Everything is really the same atthat fundamental level of
creation.
Now we make it look like tables.
We give it edges, we'd give itcomputers.
We said quantum particles acrossthe internet and show up as
images on other people'scomputers.
All of this is still lights outof migration.
So we did, as we mimic nature, Ilike to tell people, we take

(44:51):
ancient traditions and we makemodern technology.
So we took that candle and wesaid, wow, what if we took an
led that just came out in theeighties and we could have a
clicker, like a candle.
Could we get the brain torespond the same way?
Yes, but now you don't have toworry about your breathing.
You don't have to worry aboutanything.
The brain follows that we callit frequency, following

(45:12):
response.
It's actually a science thateverything is in trained.
I don't know if you've been onthe internet and looked up
synchronizing metronomes.
But if you do, you'll find a guystarts 200 metronomes and they
all seek within three to fourminutes.
Well, this is our nature.
This is the nature ofeverything.
If you, if you have yourhometown, you know, if you make

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this first light, you're gonnamake all the green lights as you
go through, because eventuallyall the lights will line up.
So that through way we'll getall the green lights.
They don't know why thathappens.
And then what happens issomebody in the town puts in
another light.
It throws them all off for atleast a year, within a year,
they'll all be lined up again.
And you'll be able to make allthose green lights again.
Our universe wants to besynchronized.

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And so does our brain.
So what BrainTap does in theprimary sense, the most basic
sense is we're going to balancethe brain, guided through a
cycle of sleep and then wake youback up.
Now, if it's asleep sessionslike we're talking about now, we
don't wake you back up.
We take you down to Delta, whichis the deep sleep cycle.
We drop you off.

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Then your body takes over thecycle.
And then think of it kind oflike training wheels for the
brain.
But we're training the brain togo through these different
cycles.
Our morning sessions, the waythey work, we call it digital
coffee because we're exciting.
The brain, there's a brainwavecalled SMR sensory motor rhythm.
And it has to do with cognitionand balance.
We've actually proved that wecan improve balance without

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doing exercise.
Now it works better if you do.
But we wanted to prove that it'sa brainwave issue, not just a
muscular issue, because musclesdo nothing on their own bones,
do nothing on their own.
They own, they need instructionfrom the brain to do all those
things.
So it all starts with thecerebral cortex, the central
operating component of ourbrain.

(46:57):
And so when we get these, allthese different brainwaves
working in the right order, whathappens is we can wake up when
we want, we can sleep when wewant, we can have energy
whenever you want.
Um, the other way that it worksto help people is at two o'clock
in the afternoon, every personon earth around two o'clock,
their temperature will drop twodegrees.

(47:18):
This is just a natural part ofour biological system.
That's because every person onearth started in the Sarah Getty
, our genetics can be tracedback to Africa, right?
And what would happen around twoo'clock in the afternoon, the
Serengeti were not up runningaround a hundred degree.
Temperatures we're laying downnext to the zebra, hoping the
lion doesn't see it sleepingbecause we don't want to be

(47:38):
dinner.
And so our bodies are designedto take a nap at that time.
What we've shown is if you do a20 minute breakup session, you
actually can reclaim over 40%between 40 and 80% of the energy
that you had in the morning.
So some people respond better,but especially athletes.
We have a professional soccerteam, Kansas city sport that put

(47:59):
it in a 20 station brain tappingroom.
Cause we showed them by usinglymphatic drainage boots in a
brain tap, they could reclaimover 80% of the energy of these
pro athletes.
And so they do it forrecovering.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Thanks for listening to part one of our interview
with Dr.
Patrick K.
Porter and be sure to subscribeto we're not blowing hot air, so
you don't miss part two.
Now check out this episodes,featured artists lost in Prague.

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Speaker 5 (48:56):
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Speaker 4 (49:42):
[inaudible]

Speaker 5 (49:46):
All this dread in my head on Sunday now to fund This
grid, Looking back, his road ispaved and shadows and men are
rays have a better day.
Wow.

(50:07):
This,

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Uh,

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Uh,

Speaker 4 (50:27):
[inaudible] [inaudible].
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