ABA on Tap
The ABA podcast, crafted for BCBAs, RBTs, OBMers, and ABA therapy business owners, that serves up Applied Behavior Analysis with a twist! A podcast for BCBAs, RBTs, fieldwork trainees, related service professionals, parents, and ABA therapy business owners Taking Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) beyond the laboratory and straight into real-world applications, ABA on Tap is the BCBA podcast that breaks down behavior science into engaging, easy-to-digest discussions. Hosted by Mike Rubio (BCBA), Dan Lowery (BCBA), and Suzanne Juzwik (BCBA, OBM expert), this ABA podcast explores everything from Behavior Analysis, BT and RBT training, BCBA supervision, the BACB, fieldwork supervision, Functional Behavior Assessments (FBA), OBM, ABA strategies, the future of ABA therapy, behavior science, ABA-related technology, including machine learning, artificial intelligence (AI), virtual learning or virtual reality, instructional design, learning & development, and cutting-edge ABA interventions—all with a laid-back, pub-style atmosphere. Whether you're a BCBA, BCBA-D, BCaBA, RBT, Behavior Technician, Behavior Analyst, teacher, parent, related service professional, ABA therapy business owner, or OBM professional, this podcast delivers science-backed insights on human behavior with humor, practicality, and a fresh perspective. We serve up ABA therapy, Organizational Behavior Management (OBM), compassionate care, and real-world case studies—no boring jargon, just straight talk about what really works. So, pour yourself a tall glass of knowledge, kick back, and always analyze responsibly. Cheers to better behavior analysis, behavior change, and behavior science!
Episodes
ABA on Tap is proud to present Jennifer Kraft (Part 1 of 2):
AAC is everywhere right now, but too many people still treat it like a gadget instead of a voice. Mike and Dan sit down with Jennifer Kraft, a longtime special educator, assistive technology specialist, and BCBA, about what actually makes augmentative and alternative communication work in the real world and what goes wrong when devices get handed out withou...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Kristyn Peterson (Part 2 of 2):
The hardest part of behavior analysis isn’t the data sheet, it’s the human side: how you show up, how you lead, and how you make change feel doable. ABA on Tap is back with Dr. Kristyn Peterson for a candid, practical conversation that connects behavioral artistry to the real-world pressures BCBAs face when business models clash with cli...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Kristyn Peterson (Part 1 of 2):
A BCBA passes the exam, gets promoted fast, and suddenly has to lead teams, train new RBTs, manage payer demands, and still protect the client’s care. That jump can feel like getting handed the keys to a moving car, especially in underserved markets where there is no mentorship bench and no clean roadmap for what a clinical director should actually ...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Mark Malady (Part 2 of 2):
If you have ever felt pressured to list “behaviors for reduction” even when you know the real need is skill building, this conversation will hit home. ABA on Tap continues our sit down with Mark Malady, to talk about constructional ABA, where the aim is not to stop behavior for everyone else’s comfort but to build the repertoires that let a l...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Mark Malady (Part 1 of 2):
A piece of duct tape on the floor becomes a turning point for how we think about safety, reinforcement, and basic human connection. Mike and Dan sit down with Mark Malady to trace the long arc from an IEP and constant school changes to building programs for adults with severe aggression and minimal communication. Along the way, Mark shares the moment he stoppe...
ABA on Tap is proud to sit down with Lupe Castañeda (Part 2 of 2):
You can have the best behavior plan in the world and still fail if the classroom doesn’t trust you. Mike and Dan pick up part two with Lupe Castaneda, and get practical about school-based ABA, BCBA leadership in schools, and the messy middle where collaboration meets real-world constraints. We talk through what it looks like when we’re &ld...
ABA on Tap is proud to sit down with Lupe Castañeda (Part 1 of 2):
If you’ve ever walked into a school confident in your assessment, your data, and your “best practice” plan, and still watched it fall apart by week two, you’re not alone. Mike and Dan sit down with Lupe Castaneda, a longtime school-based BCBA and consultant, to talk about what actually makes ABA in schools work, and what quietl...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Asia Johnson (Part 2 of 2):
A kid can learn their colors and still be worse off if they’ve been trained to silence “no.” That tension drives our candid conversation with Asia Johnson as we wrestle with what ethical, modern ABA therapy should look like when the goal is a real life, not perfect compliance. We talk honestly about how many clinicians are shaped by a single...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Asia Johnson (Part 1 of 2):
A two-pound baby in the NICU. A young mom in a demanding academic track. Years of sleepless nights, confusing behaviors, and a system full of waitlists and half-answers. Asia Johnson joins us to share the throughline that connects all of it-- learning how to advocate for her daughter, and then bringing that same urgency and empathy into the ABA field as an RB...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Holli Beth Clauser (Part 2 of 2):
Grab a comfortable seat and get ready for your second pour of truth telling and good hiring.
"They’re just RBTs” might be the most expensive sentence an ABA organization can say. We sit down with Holli Beth Clauser to talk about truth telling, good hiring, and what happens when companies optimize for speed and margin while ignoring trai...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Holli Beth Clauser (Part 1 of 2):
Grab a comfortable seat and a tasty libation. There is a lot of introspection to be had in this pour.
Your turnover number might look like a business problem, but it’s really a human systems problem. We sit down with Holly Beth Clauser to unpack why ABA organizations keep bleeding great RBTs, why families lose trust when staffing churn never stops,...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Yev Veverka (Part 2 of 2):
Grab a tasty libation, a comfy seat and sip slowly. In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike and Dan are pouring out a fresh perspective on the evolution of behavior science. We are thrilled to welcome a powerhouse, Dr. Yev Veverka, PhD, BCBA-D--a world-class researcher, and educator from the University of Washington. Yev is also well versed as a pa...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Yev Veverka (Part 1 of 2):
Grab a tasty libation, a comfy seat and sip slowly. In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike and Dan are pouring out a fresh perspective on the evolution of behavior science. We are thrilled to welcome a powerhouse, Dr. Yev Veverka, PhD, BCBA-D--a world-class researcher, and educator from the University of Washington. Yev is also well versed as a pa...
*FOR PART I of this interview, please go to the Reinforcing Conversations Podcast
Grab a cold one and pull up a chair! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by a powerhouse duo shaking up the behavior analysis space: Nicole Stewart and Christina Torres, creators of the Reinforcing Conversations podcast. This is a pod-swap, so part I of this convo starts on the Reinforcing Conversat...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Nicholas Maio-Aether (Part 2 of 2):
Find the most comfortable seat in the house, pour yourself a cold one, maybe two! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by the "Sex Analyst" himself, Nicholas Maio-Aether.
Nicholas is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA), Licensed Behavior Analyst (LBA), and a certified sexuality counselor who specializes ...
ABA on Tap is proud to present Nicholas Maio-Aether (Part 1 of 2):
Find the most comfortable seat in the house, pour yourself a cold one, maybe two! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by the "Sex Analyst" himself, Nicholas Maio-Aether.
Nicholas is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA), Licensed Behavior Analyst (LBA), and a certified sexuality counselor who specializes ...
ABA on Tap is proud to spend some time with Shouberte Abreu (Part 2 of 2):
Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by Shouberte Abreu, a powerhouse in clinical ABA and Founder of Behaviour Lifestyle. In addition, the crew is pleasantly surprised by a bonus guest, Dr. Scott O'Donnell.
Shouberte takes us beyond the laboratory, sharing her ...
ABA on Tap is proud to spend some time with Shouberte Abreu (Part 1 of 2):
Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode of ABA on Tap, hosts Mike Rubio and Dan Lowery are joined by Shouberte Abreu, a powerhouse in clinical ABA and Founder of Behaviour Lifestyle. In addition, the crew is pleasantly surprised by a bonus guest, Dr. Scott O'Donnell.
Shouberte takes us beyond the laboratory, sharing her ...
(Part 2 of 2) Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode, Mike and Dan are cracking open the white paper from Optum, titled "Low Hours, High Impact".
For years, the "more is better" 40-hour-a-week model has been the industry standard, but the data is starting to tell a different story. We’re diving deep into the science and the shift toward Value-Based Care, exploring how focused, high-quality in...
(Part 1 of 2) Grab a seat and pour yourself a cold one! In this episode, Mike and Dan are cracking open the white paper from Optum, titled "Low Hours, High Impact".
For years, the "more is better" 40-hour-a-week model has been the industry standard, but the data is starting to tell a different story. We’re diving deep into the science and the shift toward Value-Based Care, exploring how focused, high-quality in...
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