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June 6, 2025 13 mins

Join Dr. Batts as he dives into the world of mental health and fitness with experts Pastor Barnwell, a professional bodybuilder, and Dr. Kenneth Johnson, an amateur bodybuilder and psychiatrist. In this episode, recorded at Snap Fitness in Cibilo, Texas, they discuss the intersection of physical exercise, mental health, and strategies to combat depression. Learn about the symptoms and criteria for clinical depression and explore non-pharmacologic strategies to improve mental well-being. Follow along as they tackle a complete back workout, emphasizing the therapeutic benefits of physical activity. This episode of the About That Life podcast is perfect for anyone looking to enhance both their physical and mental health.


00:00 Introduction to the About That Life Podcast

00:29 Meet the Experts: Pastor Barnwell and Dr. Kenneth Johnson

01:12 Understanding Depression: Clinical Insights

02:41 Spiritual and Emotional Perspectives on Depression

04:12 Strategies to Combat Depression

09:07 Iron Therapy: The Connection Between Physical and Mental Health

10:14 Back Workout: Tackling Physical and Emotional Challenges

12:52 Conclusion and Next Steps

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