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As the city of Baltimore grapples with the aftermath of the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse, our hearts go out to everyone affected by this catastrophe. Our latest episode takes you through the tangled maze of emotions and repercussions following this disaster, with a special focus on the community's resilience and the urgent need for infrastructure modernization. We reflect on the historical ties between Baltimore and the DMV, showing our respect and renewed solidarity with our neighbors.

Switching gears, we step into the vibrant world of hip-hop where the lines between competition and creativity blur. The buzz around Kendrick Lamar's latest lyrical grenade has the rap community on the edge of their seats, and we're right there with them, dissecting every bar. We also consider the intriguing dynamics of rap's powerhouse trio—Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, and Drake—as they navigate the balance between collaboration and rivalry, their contributions shaping the very fabric of the genre.

Finally, we don't shy away from the stark, confronting issues of the day. The allegations swirling around P Diddy have us examining the weight of social media speculation and its real-world implications. And through the grim lenses of "The Wire," we confront the haunting reality of human trafficking, promising to delve deeper into the intricate relationship between life and art in episodes to come. Buckle up for a ride through the complexities of modern culture, where every word and revelation has the power to shake foundations.

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
DMV.
Welcome everybody to anotherepisode of the Absolute DMV
Podcast.
It's your man, ace Boogie.
I'm here with a few good guys.
Y'all know who it is my man,mark.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hey, what's going on, y'all.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
My man A-Train Hello all hey Swank, what's up, what's
up.
And Eall my man a train helloall hey swank, what's up, what's
up.
And ego on the boards yo, whatwe got going on this week,
gentlemen.
Oh actually, I'm jumpingstraight into it.
Fuck it, jump.
Well, jump straight into it isprobably yeah we're gonna fall
into it, all right, let me stop.

(01:02):
No, diddy.
Hey, I want to send condol,condolences to the people that
lost their lives on the FrancisScott Key Bridge.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
And the families, and the families.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Our condolences, the first responders, everybody.
It's an unfortunate situationthat we got going on in
Baltimore.
I mean I'm not going to saypray for Baltimore because it
didn't get bombed or anything,so everybody in Baltimore is
going to be okay.
It's just traffic is going tomess things up a little bit.
It's going to mess up theeconomy in Baltimore a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
A lot.
So things in Baltimore couldget a little dicey, because we
do know that Baltimore is well,it's Baltimore.
Let's just say that.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
And let me say this I know on one of our I think our
first episode, we were, like youknow, baltimore is not part of
the dmv and whatever, whateverwe slept on your baltimore.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
we apologize, you know we I mean you're still not
a part of the dmv, but, um, westill love you and we hope that
you guys are gonna do well.
I mean, I'm not going tobaltimore anytime soon.
I don't what traffic is goingto be like trying to get into
Baltimore, so I'm going to leaveit alone.
I'm going to stay on my side oftown, shots fired oh, I think I

(02:14):
got side effects.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
This is wonderful God damn.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's no shots towards Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I have no beef with anyone from Baltimore, I got a
lot of love for BaltimoreStraight up love.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
Norma Jeans.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
There's a couple other places.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Mad that Norma Jeans was the first place Shout out to
Norma Jeans.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Shout out to Norma Jeans the way.
Shout out to norma jeans.
So I got plenty of love forbaltimore I've never been to the
paradox, but I hear it wasjumping in there.
So you know I'm saying, shoutout to that.
Um, yeah, I, I go to the harbor.
Yeah, the harbor is really nice, absolutely like I love the
Hooters Fells Point.

(03:04):
You go in there.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Fells Point is cool.
Fells Point is cool.
Halloween at Fells Point isamazing.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
Is it?
Yeah, I just remember PowerPlant Really.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Power Plant, espn Zone, all that other stuff.
Is it still there?
I don't even know.
Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
One of them there.
I know Dave and Buster's Daveand Buster's is there, I think
ESPN, I don't know actually.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
I think they replaced that with Dave and Buster's.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
That might have been it, you said Halloween.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
If you go to Halloween to celebrate Halloween
, hey guys.
That was like 10 minutes ago.
Hey guys, Can we get back ontopic?

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Bring it back home.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Anyway, shout out to Baltimore.
How about the Wire HBO?
Anyway, shout out to.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
Baltimore Francis Scott Key Bridge.
How about the Wire?
My bad, my bad, hbo.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
The Francis Scott Key Bridge was crashed into by a
cargo boat from A-Train.
Where was it from?
Singapore, singapore yeah,singapore.
Yes, a cargo boat fromSingapore Apparently lost power
and crashed into one of thepillars holding up the bridge,
which allowed the bridge to fallin several moments after the

(04:11):
bridge had been hit Not evenseveral.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like less than a second.
It's immediately.
That's the thing that reallythrew me off is like watching
the video.
It's like in regular time, noteven sped up at all.
It's amazing to see just howfast like a second, and the
whole thing is underwater.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Well, it said it was going nine miles an hour.
So nine miles an hour, that'spretty fast.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
It's the size of the boat.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I was going to say it's the size of the boat.
And it was full of cargo.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Well, so I guess people were saying there's
different ways of thinking.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I thought the video was time-lapse.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
That's all I'm going to say.
It could be yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
No, it was in real time.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
It was, it was in real time, so you can see

Speaker 2 (04:48):
like the boat is moving real slow because it's a
big boat and nine miles an hourfrom a distance looks real slow,
but when the actual impacthappens you can see everything
falling and that clearly is notin slowed down because that's at
a different space, differentpace.
And yeah, it was crazy.
I mean, I think thatessentially you have these.

(05:10):
Francis Scott Key Bridge wasbuilt long enough ago, 1937.
Yeah, so the amount of weightthat a lot of these ships had,
you know our engineering skillsat that time and our technology
has grown Extra-minority.
Yeah, you know our engineeringskills at that time.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
And our technology has grown Extraordinary.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, it's amazing to see what the size of a ship
back then is totally dwarffighting any of the ships going
on now.
And then the ship that hit itwas really kind of a middle
class ship.
There are some that are waybigger than that as well.
So the unfortunate fact that ithit the pillar and again it's a
suspension bridge, so I meanit's supporting itself, so once

(05:49):
it starts to go down, there'sreally nothing anchoring it in.
Yeah, but I think that I meanthis is kind of a wake-up call.
I think that there's going toneed to be a lot of overhaul on
a lot of bridges across thecountry really, but it's always
a huge expense.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Usually they, usually they don't want to spend the
money.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
And they wait until disrepair before they do
anything.
And you got to ask yourself why?
Because that bridge, thatpathway, it's supposed to be.
I think it's the ninth largestor most frequently used port and
they use it, you know, goingeverywhere.
So they were using that to godown to the Panama Canal, going

(06:29):
over to the Pacific side.
So just think about, like whywould VOV?
It's just that's the way thistype of commerce that we're not
really all familiar withoperates right, and so exporting
all kinds of goods, probablynormal stuff and you know legal
stuff and not legal stuff numberone for cars, season two of the

(06:50):
wire right there yeah.
so it's tremendous and it bringsus to how key that bridge made
for commercial traffic, becauseat that time, in 77, they
weren't able to withstand thecommercial traffic and the
regular traffic going throughthe tunnels.
So they created that bridge,but that was still the waterway,
right?
So you think of there are twothings going on a bridge made to

(07:13):
carry trucks and whatnot over,but then underneath that bridge
is to bring those boats todeliver all that yeah export,
import stuff all over.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
So Amazon warehouse, amazon they got plenty of space
to bring the boats in now, butwe were estimating how much the
how much time it was gonna takefor the bridge to get rebuilt.
Um, are any guesses?

Speaker 6 (07:39):
I mean I found out the last time this happened, I
think in.
I think it's so far recent thebridge went down.
Last time the bridge went no,not this bridge, but it happened
in the us a bridge went downlike thisa suspension bridge.
It took them six years, yeahsuspension bridges are like a
hard feat yeah you're basically.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean you're, you're .
It's a step-by-step process.
You're building each pillar,sort of underground, and then
creating the chambers, gettingthe water out of there and then
building up from there.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
And this is a long bridge.
I think sometimes we forgetthat this is unusually long yeah
get that this is unusually long, yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
But but there was, they said they had, they had a,
they tested or they, yeah, theyran tests on the bridge last
year, just recently last year,and it passed all the tests.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
So the thing that then I think that comes down to
is like we gotta adjust ourtesting numbers because, like,
if the boats and the sizes youknow, bigger boats weigh more,
bigger boats can carry morecargo.
That makes more weight.
So if, like, if the numbersthat you're you know, testing it
as are as outdated as thenumbers from when it was built,

(08:50):
then it's like all right, itcould survive a hit from a ship
that weighs X amount, but almostvery few ships weigh that
anymore.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
So this is another scenario they got to test for
they got to exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
So you're saying that basically, the boats have
surpassed the bridges intechnology or advancement.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, basically, I mean I think that the amount of
you know, ability of engineeringand just the way that you know
we're able to have bigger shipscarry more cargo.
That means more weight, moremomentum.
A ship that hits it of thissize is even kind of in the

(09:29):
middle class, in the middle tier.
There are some ships that areway bigger and can carry way
more.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
This is one of those very bizarre situations when
they say can someone anticipatethis or that?
Yeah, remember the lights wentout, like they lost power for
one second.
Yeah, and the power came back on.
Then they threw the anchor out,supposedly to slow it down,
which is kind of interestingalso from the perspective of
that.
When we hear these news, this,these news stories, we always
get all kinds of crazy storiesright.

(09:58):
So of course it had somethingpolitically.
So they named every candidate.
Has something to do with it,then it's a terrorist attack
conspiracy theorists?

Speaker 5 (10:04):
of course yes, came out the woodworks.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, just came and told all kinds of craziness,
even to tell us that seven carswere under.
That was like the first story Iheard.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, I heard that it was 12 cars that were on it.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
See this, I, that's what I mean.
And then there's no cars.
It's working on the bridge,because the actual boat people,
the Singaporeans, they put out amayday, what do you call it?
They were responsible.
Put out the mayday toldeveryone to get off the bridge
Ahead of time.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Threw the anchor out.
They blocked off the bridge.
No cars were on it.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
They did everything possible to provide the safety
within their realm of theirability, but instead you get,
you know, both the panic and thecrazy stories and all this
nonsense until we actually hearwhat happened what a time to be
alive and the crazy thing too is, in the aftermath, seeing all
these, you know, these racistscome out of the woodwork.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, because baltimore is a predominantly
af-American city, it has, youknow, a male, you know,
african-american mayor, youngmayor, and he's young.
And then, you know again, it'slike he got so much flack for
the type of jacket that he woreat the press conference.
And it's like yo, this is anemergency situation.
He probably grabbed whateverwas closest to him on the rack

(11:17):
as he ran out the door to gostart handling stuff.
It's like, would you havepreferred him to like take the
time to like go get in athree-piece suit Then?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
they'd be complaining about it.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, they'd be complaining about oh he didn't
respond for 30 minutes becauseblah, blah, blah he's doing this
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
It's just so ridiculous.
I mean, this goes to show likewhere we're at.
We've veered, off course, fromback in the day when most people
could trust to a certain extentwhat they heard from one
newscast or one news station,and instead you hear a million

(11:50):
different people news peoplebeing just as bad as the common
conspiracy theorists, talkingnonsense about things they don't
know.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well speaking of response, and even what a time
to be alive.
Um, we had, uh, a new update inthe top rapper, I guess I don't
want to say battle.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
What is that battle?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
yeah, I don't know if it's a battle, if it's a beef,
I don't know what to call it.
But yeah, we have the big three, we have Kendrick Lamar, we
have J Cole and we have Drake,not in any particular order.
Did I say that?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I say that because Kendrick Lamar dropped his well
his disc on a Future song whichDrake did an album called what a
Time to Be Alive with Future.
So I have a few thoughts onthis where I'm like OK, bro, you

(12:53):
decided to diss Drake on theperson's song that he has an
album with, so does that meanthe person whose song he's on
has a problem with Drake also?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Well, I have seen and again, I don't know how real or
substantiated this is, but I'veseen screenshots circulating
online that have shown that anumber of other rappers some of
them are including future haveunfollowed drake on social media
, on instagram so again.
Supposedly I've heard it's overa girl situation and that's the
the root cause again.
I don't know how much it islike a personal thing, how much

(13:35):
it is just like a business thing.
How much it is just like abusiness thing, how much it is
just like a contending with thetop three situation.
You know, if one is over theother, that cancel culture.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
So for me, the only big, first things first, great,
great segue, the way you leanedinto it with the what a time to
be alive, thank you Exceptional.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Y'all gave me a couple and y'all just kept
talking and I was just like,saving the one-liners I'm gonna
grab one from.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Somewhere.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
You know what I'm gonna take both of them.
Yeah, skill.
Secondly, um, the only bigthree that I know is the father,
the son, the holy ghost, oh manoh man wow, it's easter.
However, there you go, heycheers.
However, though, um, when itcomes to this, whatever it is, I
feel like it's a publicitystunt for real.
There's an album comingsomewhere.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Absolutely no absolutely.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
It's good for business and it should be.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I think J Cole's album's coming.
I think J Cole is in album mode, which makes it very
interesting to diss J Cole inalbum mode.
I mean, do we have a clip oranything?

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Do we want to run?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
something Engineer?
No, I mean.
I'm just asking if we do, If wedon't.
I can kind of paraphrase oh oh,oh wow, it's coming, it's
coming.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
Can we fast forward to Kendrick's part?
It's a vibe, though.
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I part.
It's a vibe, though I'm notgonna lie.
I mean it's a future song.
Yeah, we only got 30 secondsbro.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Yeah, we only got 30 seconds Fair use and we do not
own the rights to these records,by the way.
Yeah, fair use.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, and we do not own the rights to these records.
Yeah, fair use.
Yeah, we, we do not own therights to these records, so we
are not playing this forpromotional use, and I mean and
we kind of got to talk over it alittle- bit I, I.
I don't know this song, so I'mjust trying to find yeah, you
were talking about how you it'sall good, it's all good.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I don't like it the one thing that I'll say on that
is like the way that Kendrickwrote this disc.
He's not going out and reallynaming names in the same way
that, like you know, like otherdisc tracks, like obviously like
Tupac, you know, you know it'slike a very subliminal thing and
a lot of the bars that he'stalking about.

(15:57):
You really have to get thereferences you call that
subliminal I mean it reallywasn't subliminal.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
There's nothing subliminal about it, no, no, I'm
saying in comparison to theusual diss track and you have to
be familiar with the rapper'sdiscography to know exactly, to
get what he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
For Eric, if you're not listening to J Cole's
discography to know exactly liketo get what he's talking about
for eric, if you're notlistening to jay cole's
discography and you don't knowsome of his his records and some
of his lines, and same fordrake you're not going to
understand what is a derogatoryor an inflicting, because he's
taking a lot of what kendrick isdoing is taking their words
from their records or their songtitles and then flipping it in
a bar.
So then it's like him on topand that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
It's not crafty, very crafty, but that's what I'm
saying.
There's nothing subliminalabout that when you when you
take, if you know when you saywhen he literally said first
person shooter, which is a songthat drake and j cole are both
right right, right.
J cole has a line that says, um, we're the big three, yeah.
And kendrick says forget thebig three, it's just big me,

(17:04):
yeah.
Um, you gotta know he's talkingto jay cole but then hold on,
but then I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
I'm sorry, your mic is off, sir it's okay, y'all can
hear me.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
Y'all can play the track.
Can Can I play the track?
Yeah, play the track, yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
All right.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
These niggas talking out of their necks.
Don't put no coughing out ofyour mouth.
I'm way too paranoid forthreats.
Hey, hey, let's get it bro.
Dot the money power, respectthe last one is better Say yes,
a lot of goofies with a check, Imean, oh, I hold them.

(17:49):
Sentiments symbolic there yougo, there you go there, you go.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
No, subliminal Fuck sneak dissonance.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
I can keep going.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
No, I say subliminal in the sense that we're not
talking about the Biggie Tupacjust where, like, he's got a
person in there dressed as Tupacin the music video and he's
naming Biggie.
I'm saying it's not subliminal,if you, but for a listener who
doesn't understand thereferences that he's going on
the history behind you know like, but you know then it's like

(18:21):
for an act, for a no, for anovice listener.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
You're not going to get it all right, let's get into
the quick history real quick.
So when I believe, when theworld was first introduced to
kendrick the world beingintroduced I'm not saying when
he first got on, or nothing likethat the world being introduced
to kendrick was, I want to say,it was 2011.
On drake's album yeah I'll takecare.

(18:44):
It was the buried aliveinterlude and even from the
buried alive interview, kendricksaid a little something in
there, where he said somethingof when he found out how old
drake was.
It made him a little bitannoyed and impatient.
Why and I think that is becausehe is wondering why somebody

(19:08):
had that success at that agewhile not being as quote unquote
good as he is, quote-unquotegood as he is because,
kendrick's first project that Ilistened to is called section 80
and to me, honestly, other thanprobably good kid, bad city,

(19:30):
that's his best.
I I believe that's his best bodyof work, lyrically, sonically,
everything put together.
Not trying to knock the otherthing debatable, but yeah, very
debatable, um, but together.
Not trying to knock the otherthings Debatable, but, yeah,
very debatable.
But I'm not trying to knock theother things, I just think the
other things were a little bitharder to listen to because he
was doing a lot more.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
As somebody who likes lyrics and loves lyricists,
good Kid, mad City and Section80 are his two most I don't want
to say palatable, but easier tolisten to because you can
actually hear the lyrics in them.
But we still have the situationof from back in that song.

(20:12):
When he was introduced to Drake, it seemed like he was already
annoyed with Drake's success toa certain extent.
Now you fast forward, they haveto do the friend thing because
we're the top rappers coming up,they get on songs together, you
know, whatever, whatever.
Then years later the controlverse comes out and Kendrick

(20:36):
basically is trying to competewith the rest of his so-called
friends I don't know if they'refriends at this point, more like
peers, Peers.
There we go he's trying tocompete with his peers.
He sparks a little bit ofintrigue with some people, where
it seemed like everybody andtheir mom decided to take that
verse, that beat and spit backto him.

(20:58):
He didn't answer anyone, but hedidn't need to.
He sent the first shot right.
Honestly, the control verse.
I don't know if it's that good.
I don't really remember anylines from it.
Um, I don't have any quotablesfrom it.
It's been a minute too.
The only thing that is mostimportant about that song is

(21:19):
that he just flat out said allthese people's different names.
He flat out said their names.
Once again, no, subliminal.
Yeah, drake has always beensaying that he is the top rapper
because of his sales and hislongevity and all the things
that he's been able to succeedat through his career.

(21:41):
Because if you look at thethree of them, kendrick is
probably the most creative, likethe most artistical one of the
three.
Drake is the more successfulone, sales-wise, money-wise,
commercial-wise, and J Cole isthe more just essence of hip hop

(22:06):
.
I'm a lyrical miracle.
You know what I'm saying, guy,and that's how I'm going to get
on.
A miracle no, you know, it'slyrical miracle, spiritual.
You know what I'm saying.
That's how you brush it down.
So I believe that that's whatit is.
So at this point, kendrick, isnow what I'm hoping.
What I'm hoping, because Idon't know if it is a real beef

(22:27):
or not, but what I'm hoping isthis is all for entertainment,
this is all for competition,this is all for sport.
You said J Cole stuck the olivebranch out there saying, hey, I
understand, you and Drake havea problem.
So I'm on this Drake song andI'm going to stick the olive
branch out by saying, hey, we'rethe big three me, you and Drake
have a problem.
So I'm on this Drake song andI'm going to stick the eyelash
branch out by saying, hey, we'rethe big three Me, you and Drake

(22:49):
.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
He was calling for peace ahead of time he was
calling for peace ahead of time.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Drake never once said Kendrick's name on that song.
He always said who's the best?
It's just me and Cole, BecauseDrake always sneak dissing,
that's that's.
That's what he's known for,that's what I'm saying.
So Drake, flat out, he's sethis line in the sand where he's
like bro, the best is me and you.
I'm not rocking with dude overthere, Even though you saying

(23:17):
it's the three of us.
I'm saying it's just me and youSpeak for yourself, bro.
So Kendrick fires back by saying, hey, first person shooter,
that's the song that both of youwere on.
No big three, it's just big me,just me, by the way, yeah, so
that's a shot At both of you.
For you saying that there is abig three, and Jill Cole can get

(23:37):
it too, and yeah, and for youeven.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
For you To be on the track and entertain yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Omitting me, even though my man said that shit is
funny man.
You know what I'm saying.
My man said that I am in thebig three, so forget it.
There is no big three, it'sjust big me.
Drake's album is called For Allmy Dogs and he goes I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, let me finish thisreal quick.
Drake's album is called For Allmy Dogs and he says for all
your dogs getting buried.
That's a K, with all thesenines, that's a pet cemetery.

(24:04):
That was a hard line, thoughthat's a little bit of a tough
line.
I ain't gonna lie.
I ain't gonna lie.
Ego says he don't like thewhole verse.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
He better listen to it.
I think he better listen to it.

Speaker 6 (24:18):
Don't tell me what I felt.
I never said what you felt.
I'm not saying I'm not a fan ofwhat he said.
It just didn't make sense forthe beat compared to the beef,
so that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Well, that's what I'm saying.
It's like to get that line,because that is a tough line,
but to get it you have to knowthe song title.
That is an integral part to whythat line is so tough.
If you don't understand thatthat's a line that he's taking
and from an, from the artistthat he's pointing a shot at and

(24:52):
twisting it, then it's likeyeah, you're right, it's not
going to make sense to you, soit's it's.
This is a diss, really forlisteners of these three artists
who will really get it, likeother people can get it, and
they can.
You know there's lots of tiktokvideos breaking down each bar
and the relevance with eachthing and the the double and
triple entendres, but really,again, this is like drake, cole
and kendrick and their fans andthe different communities that

(25:14):
are fans of all three artistsand this debate this is that?

Speaker 1 (25:18):
that's what this verse is for yeah, and that's
why I'm like I said, that's whyI'm hoping that this is just for
entertainment purposes andthere's no real beef between
these three gentlemen yeah, Imean since childish, though,
given given this is probablyother than probably other than
50 and kanye, because 50 I don'tthink was going to do anything

(25:40):
to kanye, even though at thetime he was deemed the most
dangerous person.
But this is probably the safestrat beef you're going to get in
, because you don't never hearof a history of violence from
none of these gentlemen, yeah,yeah.
So for me, I'm thinking thatthis is great, especially not
Drake.
Yeah, I mean any one of them,any one of them.

(26:02):
So I'm thinking that this isgreat, because this is going to
be great for hip-hop if allthree of these men actually
engage one of them.
So I'm thinking that this isgreat because this is going to
be great for hip-hop if allthree of these men actually
engage.
I think that it's been a fewdays and I'm surprised j cole
hasn't responded well, they'reon tour, right I know drake is
on tour, so I

Speaker 5 (26:21):
can understand drake not responding and no, but he
said, he said he kind ofaddressed it a little bit, yeah,
no addressing.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
It is one thing.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'm talking about responding responding with a
verse he don't want no smoke man.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
So drake is on album.
I mean, drake is on uh uh tourmode, but I think j cole is on
album mode yeah, he's at homesitting with his pen, sitting
near the studio, and he hasn'tresponded, and that is strange
to me, says a lot well, well,again, it's like he's the one
who is trying to avoid this, tomediate I think he's playing the

(26:54):
olive branch.
Yeah, yeah, but even he said itin the benny the butcher song,
I'm trying to revolve a sport,I'm trying to revive a sport
that's currently dying yeah andthe only way to do that is
through competition yeah, soI'll also say sorry not to cut
you off.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
I also say this right it, all of this is new, like
it's just fresh right yeahusually sometimes rap beefs.
Sometimes it takes a littlewhile for a response to be given
, depending on who the artist isor depending on what time they
feel like they need to respond.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
So back we'll see j cole has been on too much of a
tear lately doing crazy features, killing everybody on features
to have somebody shoot at himand him not respond within 48
hours.
Beef mode is a whole nothersituation.
That's not beef mode, it's justthe idea that I'm in album mode
so I'm going to.

(27:41):
The only pass I'm willing togive is I'm in album mode so I
might be in a vibe.
I might be in more creativemode to where I I'm in album
mode, so I might be in a vibe.
I might be in more creativemode to where I'm not in battle
mode exactly.
But the idea is my pen shouldprobably be one of the sharpest
it is at this point.
Yeah, so the fact that you knowI've been sharpening my pen,

(28:02):
I've been sharpening my swordand you want to shoot at me.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
You know what I'm saying Trying to stay focused on
what he's on to.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
And that's why I think that that's the only pass
I'm willing to give him.
So, with that being said, hehas to say something on this
album.
We'll give him time, let's seehow he does it.
As I said, he has to saysomething on this album If he's
not going to say something in aLucy prior he has to say
something on this album.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
But my hope is that you're right, that this is not
something that is based on likeI've heard rumors about it being
based about a girl or somethinglike that, but you know, I hope
it's not anything personal andthat this is a way for
competition, because, you'reright, that's going to be great
for us fans.
We're going to hear them attheir best, as they're going at
each other, and if there's notany personal malevolence or
anger involved, then it's notgoing to hinder any of their

(28:48):
careers and get too far.
So I think that hopefully we'llsee something like that.
I just hope.
And with that said, the thingsthat we have seen other than the
Kendrickverse, like screenshotsof so-and-so, unfollowing,
so-and-so that's probably theeasiest way to create or

(29:09):
manifest a beef scenario where,again, it's like you can
unfollow someone and then justfollow them back the next day,
but then you've given peopleenough information to think that
you have a problem with themwithout actually doing anything
or saying anything, or we're in2024.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
You unfollow somebody on social media.
That's that's it's real.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
That's people read into.
That, that's real crazy.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's why people, that's why it's a story, because
at any other time no one wouldcare who, who would even know
that he followed them or not.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
But they've gone in to research who they took the
time out to actually exactlywell, who?

Speaker 1 (29:38):
has and who has not followed, or who who used to and
who doesn't.
Yeah, it was intentional.
It was an intentional thing is.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
It's not like drake is posting out so-and-so
unfollowed me His fans arelooking at.
All right, I'm going toscreenshot every day who his
followers are or who he's.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
You know the fans got time.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Exactly, or who Future is following, and then
the next day I'm going to do thesame thing.
And if Champagne Poppy is there, one and then he's not there
the next day.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
It's a problem I've done my Carmen Sandiego
detective work.
But even to do the CarmenSandiego to figure out who was
there first, to know who wasn'tthere the next, is to me insane.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, People got too much time on their hands.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
What else are you going to listen to?
Watch CNN and listen to DonaldTrump?
No, exactly.
Speaking of this, let's talkabout some other hip hop.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I was about to say yeah, even with that.
Even with that, watch me killanother segue hey, from J Cole
and Drake, two people who havealready had a situation with
this gentleman.
He is now in the news again andwe are speaking of no other
than Another one, take that,take that, take that, sorry.
Bad boy baby.

(30:47):
Pardon me, p Diddy.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
False.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Did he do it?
Did he?
I mean, we're gonna find out.
Time will tell the HomelandSecurity.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Has raided Sheesh.
Two or three homes Of Sean PDiddy Puff, daddy, love, aka
love, love, the club.
I don't know.
Take that, take that Threehomes of Sean P Diddy Puff,
daddy, love, aka Love, love, theclub, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Take that Love the club.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Love in the club.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
That's a DC reference .
I'm sorry, they're 1050 OTStreet.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
That's a DC reference , I'm sorry, I mean.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
I don't know, I'm not even going to say that Don't do
that.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
He actually was at love.
You do not do that right now.
You do not.
I'm going to talk over youbecause we are not going to
associate that.
Stop it.
We are not going to associatethat with that great university.
It is, but he did go there.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
We are not Stop it.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Stop it.
He went through the school.
The school didn't go throughhim.
Wow, wow, I didn't go throughhim.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Wow, wow, I didn't go that far, I'll just say that is
a

Speaker 1 (31:51):
wild entendre.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Wild.
I'll just say that him theBiggie concerts at Howard
Homecoming back in the dayamazing.
I mean, I was a kid then, butwatching the footage of them
amazing.
I was really about to ask.
I was like you were there?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
No amazing, I was really about to ask.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I was like you were there.
No man, no.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
No, no, no, no, no.
I was still on the porch atthat time.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I'm just saying that from a historical standpoint,
the love and putting DC on andthe aspect of getting one of the
biggest rappers at that timeperiod to do performances at HU
was amazing.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
But, again here we are, 2024, things have changed.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
Yes, 2024, things have changed, things have come
to light, so what is he gettingcalled out for?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
He's apparently being called out for a number of
different things.
I'm not sure of all of them,but I do know that human or sex
trafficking, yeah, is one or atleast two of them.
I got some stats, so keep going.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
You got stats where did that come from?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
you know how many bitches it was.
I mean, excuse me damn.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
I'm sorry.
Human trafficking stats.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I'm sorry, star lunch , star lunch, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
I'm on TV talking like it's just you and me.
Listen, okay.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Well, I will say that , the craziest thing that I
because I and that's a- Cassiesong, wasn't it?

Speaker 5 (33:19):
No, that's a Kanye song.
No, it's you and me.
Uh, I've been waiting, that isa Cassie song.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Wow, you on the road today, damn Wow, I'm doing this
and I don't even know I'm doingit.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
You got the Kendrick pen right now you on the road
today.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Whoa sorry, woo, I'm hot.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I will say that the craziest allegation in my
opinion from all this becauseagain there's multiple sexual
assault, sexual abuse, sexualtrafficking, human trafficking,
situations and allegations thatare being made but the craziest
one is at least.
I mean they're all horrible,but the most outlandish one, at
least in my opinion, is thepotential that he blew up Kid

(33:58):
Cudi's car over a beef.
I mean, apparently he's jealous.
Kid Cudi was potentiallyromantically involved.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
P Diddy, is Frank Lucas out here?
He's going on record saying I'mgoing to blow up his car making
threats and then his caractually explodes.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Kid Cudi's car actually explodes Coincidence
yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
right, he warned that man.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
Yeah, and he did it.
Things can make you goAllegedly, allegedly.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
No, I mean the car did blow up that part.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
That's not alleged.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Like the car is.
What's alleged is that he didit.
He was the one that did it.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, yes, that's what's alleged, but again it's
like, okay, like you have adocumented beef with this person
, you go on record making athreat about the very exact same
thing that happened.
And it's like and as, likewe're in 2024, cars don't just
spontaneously combust, likewe've got the engineering pretty
much down, even the new, youknow, electric cyber truck, all

(34:52):
the issues that's happening.
You know there's no batteriesexploding, you know like hey,
hey, trying to say he's notinnocent.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
So are you trying to?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
say, right now On air , on air.
Uh, oh, did you do it?
It I'm just playing.
I'm just saying, nah, I wasgonna say, I was gonna say
something crazy.
Like are you trying to say onair right now that Donald Trump
did not incite the January?
6th insurrection are you?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
that's totally no, he definitely did that shit, oh so
.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
So if he did it, that's not alleged, that is
facts.
If the glove fits, I mean.
Look, I am sitting back, gluedto my seat, waiting for all the
facts and allegations To comeout.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, I want to see the receipts.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I want to see what is happening, because just some of
the stuff that I've read rightnow has been crazy, like young
girl, young miami oh lord,that's apparently an employee of
sex worker down to the pointthat 50 cents baby mom was

(36:08):
allegedly a.
She was on the payroll too.
On the payroll.
So there is.
There's just so much levels ofthis onion.
It's like an onion yeah, yeah,we need to peel back, and I
think a lot of it is going tomake us cry.
Well, not make us cry, but makecertain people cry.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
The crazy thing too is like you look at it from that
aspect and the traffickingstandpoint by Homeland Security.
And that his kids were detainedand handcuffed means like okay,
there is enough evidence to bepresented right now to a judge

(36:53):
to approve this.
So that must mean like okay,they already have receipts, it's
just that we're not aware ofthem, they're not in the public
sphere, and then they're goingin for more receipts, more
evidence.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
The quote is when the feds shoot, they don't miss.
Yeah, so if the feds arewilling to shoot, yeah, and this
was very specific, they have.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
This was home enough.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
That means they have enough evidence to to do
whatever they're they need to do.
So it's a really bad situationand, honestly, I'm waiting for
the video.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
My question is where's dude?
Though?
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I'm waiting for the video of russell simmons to post
him and puff.
Talk about some.
I'm in bali.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
We're chilling well, he, he, I think he he's his
lawyer made a made a statementhe didn't say, but he basically
said you know.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
Of course he's not going to say where he's at.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
You can't say that's my client.
I don't have to say where he'sat.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
That client privilege , so they claimed they said that
was where his plane toucheddown as far as the tracker went.
But then another news came out.
They said they turned off thetracker, so it's a lot of things
that have been spewed out.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
They threw the tracker out the window.
That's what they did there, yougo and he's in Bali with
Russell Simmons, that ain't gotno tradition.
That's not a safe place.
Hey Russell has been thereforever, man.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
And Russell.
I think Russell Simmons ain'tdead.
Let me not start anything.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Russell wakes up every day and lets us know
exactly where he's at.
So you can't touch himCurrently.
Oh yeah, so you can't touch him.
He tells you all the time I'min Bali.
That's impressive.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Right.
Well, so there's some numbersabout the top 25 cities of human
trafficking cases.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
And all of them are going to have a major port.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
So guess where DC is A top 25.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Number 15.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Four Okay God damn Yep.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Now I believe it.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
No, is that through Baltimore?
Baltimore is 14.
14?
So they bringing people intothe wharf?
No, is that through Baltimore,baltimore's?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
got to be 14.
Oh, I thought that 14?
So they bringing people?

Speaker 6 (39:10):
into the wharf.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
I honestly would have thought it would have been
flipped.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
No, but that's Virginia, though you know
Virginia got water too, so theycould be coming.
No, Virginia's not even on thelist.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I guess the DC Harbor , I guess, so like of course
Houston Tech is number one, socould they?

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Houston Texas is number one.
Port Arthur, Houston Texas.
You're talking about thereligious.
No, they're probably talkingabout Port.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Arthur.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Not Port Arthur.
You guys, you guys.
I want to say this Los Angelesis number two.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
Could there?

Speaker 5 (39:36):
have been some people on that ship that hit the
bridge Possibly.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
People in the container.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Well, I mean again like the season two of the Wire,
again was just kind of a lot ofthe Wire takes inspiration from
past events.
The season two centers on dockworkers Right and the inciting
incident which leads to aninvestigation is that a
container is found on a shippingfield with a bunch of dead
women in it who are in thatcontainer to be sort of

(40:04):
trafficked, and that the airfiltration system got knocked
out and then they suffocated,got crushed so they uncover,
yeah, a ring of you know, uh,people bringing in people and
that's part of you know the, thedrug kingpin at the time, the,
the empire that they have goingwe call that, when art imitates
life and then vice versa.
Here we go exactly.

(40:24):
So I get I don't know what.
There's no evidence, of course,to prove it, but I mean
theoretically yeah.
I mean it's possible that Ispontaneously combust right now.
You know, I don't know PDiddy's involved damn did he do
it?

Speaker 1 (40:42):
like I said, we gonna find out but we'll find out we
will find out on another episode.
Thanks for joining us guys.
We will do better next time.
Take care.
Peace Cheers.
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