Strap in as we talk about the weather change in the DMV. Our latest episode is a cultural tapestry, weaving together personal experiences with the fashion surprises that springtime unveils. We're also turning the volume up on Kendrick Lamar's sharp-witted diss tracks, igniting a full-fledged lyrical warfare that's got us all on the edge of our seats. On Kendrick's masterful wordplay, as we break down the symbolism and seismic impact his rhymes are having on the rap game.
Controversy of Ryan Garcia's cheating allegations and the strict expectations of discipline in boxing. With a sidestep into the political ring, we briefly touch on Trump's trial before lacing up for the main event — the upcoming Canelo fight. Personal vendettas and promotional antics are just par for the course in this high-stakes showdown. So, tune in and get ready for a no-holds-barred commentary that pulls no punches, in the studio or in the ring.
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
DMV, dmv.
My man Swank what up?
And my man Ego on the board.
You know what's going on,gentlemen, how y'all doing, how
y'all feeling.
Friday Eve, another Thursday,wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Can't complain hanging in there.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I mean, the weather's nice, it's hot, the site's been
nice out in the streets.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Sun dresses out.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Boy, it's been super nice.
I love it, I enjoy it.
This is my season.
I'm a looker, I'm a visualperson, so I just like to look,
you know sometimes.
So you know this is my time andwhere I work at is like it's
different.
It's different In what way?
(01:24):
Because I don't want to divulgewhere I work at.
No, you know what I'm saying,but like I don't want to divulge
, but I'm going to say there's alot of like smart people there,
phds and you know what I'msaying?
Just all types of stuff them,the free kids, though Possibly I
haven't.
I haven't had the pleasure yet,so I don't know Careful what
(01:45):
you ask for.
Oh yeah, you know what I'msaying.
So, hey, it's all good.
I don't know, so I let it slide, but it's just you know right
Quick.
Bruh Bruh.
But it's just wild being there,because there's a lot of things
that you just wouldn't expectthat you would see, because it's
(02:06):
I'm going to be honest there'sa lot of nerdy women there.
Yes, there's a lot of nerdywomen there, and this whole
winter I never knew that a lotof those nerdy women Was kicked
up, holy crap.
We're going to give you a sightto see when the weather got
(02:27):
warm.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
What a time to be alive.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's a very interesting thing.
Yam's my hammy, god damn.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I don't even know if that's what she said.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I've never even heard that one.
That's a hashtag ego rightthere.
I never even heard that one,exactly.
You can't.
Yeah, that's a hashtag egoright there.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm telling you hey, what'd you say?
Hams, miami Yams, miami Yams,miami Yams, all day.
Yep, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
First piece of merch.
First piece of merch rightthere.
But yeah, that's what I'msaying.
It's crazy because it's likeduring the winter time they all
cover it up, they're all walkingaround.
Yeah, you don't know like it'scold well, yeah, I'm cold.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I'm wearing a parka too, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Oh my god, yeah, I'm not gonna say I ain't holding a
parka, but yeah, yeah, um,speaking of interesting things,
things that blew you away.
Pause, if necessary.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Pause, I don't even know what's a pause anymore, so
I'll just be saying pause ifnecessary.
Yeah, my hammy is a pause.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
No, you can't, because you don't even know the
term.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
yet I don't even know what it is, but I know it's a
pause.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Pause all night.
Yeah, yeah, interesting thingsblew people away.
Kendrick lamar dropped aresponse.
Yo, yeah, I okay.
Last week I said I was donetalking about this lies, but
then I also did say that unlesskendrick responded.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
And now kendrick has responded, but I told you he was
going to.
You said that.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I don't know.
Okay, I didn't know because Ididn't know how long it was
going to take.
It was already two weeks, so Igot disinterested, okay.
So you know what I'm saying Now.
He's piqued my interest again,mark you know what I'm saying,
mark.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
No no, mark.
I'm telling you this man washappy, mark came.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Mark hit the group chat ASAP, like you.
What was my response?
Ego was like nah, we ain'ttalking about this.
He kept going.
And I had my man, mark, back.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
We've been following the trend of this whole beef
from when it started, all theway from Big 3 to just me, to
Drake's response to the AIs, toRick Ross' response to J Cole's.
We've done it all.
So it just makes sense wefollow up on the next episode,
because I honestly do not thinkthat this is going to be it.
I think that Drake is going tocome back and say something.
I don't think this is the final.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Guess what.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Guess what, mark?
No, no, we're going to talkabout it.
We're going to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Definitely, no, definitely, we're done.
After tonight, you better tosee us on the fucking Instagram
post and shit, because we're nottalking about this shit on
fucking podcast.
We are, we are.
Can we talk?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
about Chris Brown, then I do want, I actually want
to mention that Shit Now thatyou brought it up.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
No, no no, I don't want to really talk about it,
but I do want to mention it.
I do want to mention it becauseI'm going to yeah, because he
went the hardest out of everyone.
He said the most crazy thing.
Thank you, I will say he, saidhe basically said we Because
this is.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
If an R&B artist is going harder than a rapper,
Afrobeat artists are goingagainst themselves too.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I mean, we can touch on it all if y'all want to touch
on it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
We can touch on all the beef, Paul.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You see, I wasn't going to do that.
I purposely, I purposely leftit at where I left it, michael
Scott that's what she said onman.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I got to say Pause, let's see.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But yeah, for real, for real, Kendrick's not bad.
No, but yeah, Kendrick came inand he came in hard.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
He came in, this disc to me sounded almost like a
compressed album.
He came in with an intro thatwas similar to the way an album
would start with a veryintricate sample, which is a, a
rewinded version of a quote from, uh, a remake of the wizard of
Oz, which featured, uh, michaelJackson in it as one of the
(06:32):
actors who Drake compareshimself to often, sometimes as,
like you know, the king of ofpop music and stuff like that.
Uh, this sort of as a doubleentrandra, in the sense that he
had that movie used with theactor or one of the cast, the
scaretro, actually being playedby Michael Jackson, and that
(06:53):
kind of is saying the quotethat's in reverse is saying
don't listen to them or no, it'sall true, listen to them, I am
a phony.
And that's played in reverse.
So that kind of goes to show islike he's saying that Drake is
a phony and then he's alsosaying that, again, like the
Wizard of Oz in that movie was aphony, and then, on top of that
, all the characters like theScarecrow lacked a brain, tin
(07:13):
man lacked a heart and Lionlacked courage, that's all kind
of like shots from Kendrick atDrake's and he lacks courage and
heart and a brain andeverything.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I wish I had to part when it started off.
But do you want to listen alittle bit of it?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I mean we can play a little bit of it.
I mean, is there a certain partY'all want to take it from?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
the we can't play the whole thing because it's six
minutes long.
It's a long record.
It's like a compressed album.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's an EP of its own type of thing.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You want to start it from a minute.
I think we should start it froma minute.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I guess start it from a minute in, I guess I don't
you know.
Let's see what he did.
I'm not exactly sure, I guessthat's good for it.
Yeah, this is right after theintro ends and the actual yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
There's a fake engineer over here.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
It's off thelabel.
My bad Shout out to J Cole.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
The flow's crazy.
I can't lie about that, yo, hekilled it, I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
The flow is crazy.
I don't like my trap shit, butthis shit went hard.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Well, I think the good thing about this is he's
got a lot of diversity in hisflow.
The whole song, production-wise, has a lot of diversity.
It starts off with an intro,slow sort of melodic, obviously
the sample, then he gets intothis banger and he's got a lot
of different back and forth withhis flow.
Again, I think that a lot ofone of the things that I feel
(09:04):
like drake still has is he didkind of send out a response.
There was the part where he'stalking about like I hate the
way you do this, I hate the wayyou look, I hate the way you do
that, which drake's response wasto tweet.
I think it was from a tv showwhich is kind of like a middle
school drama, and like one ofthe girls was like I hate the
way you look at me.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I hate the way you wear your hair.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I hate the way you do that kind of similar style of
you know his put down.
Yeah, but again, that's just atweet.
We haven't heard his actualresponse yet, but the fact that
he already put that out meanswhy, well, so it's pretty recent
, but it means he's probablyformulating something so we all
have heard the, the response,we've all heard euphoria.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
We all have heard it right, yeah, what do you guys
think about it?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I, I like it.
I mean again, this is from myopinion on a lyricist that's
actually a lyricist like thisperson is.
This is what he was bred from,right he, he doesn't do the all
right, let me find the Nietzschekind of thing.
He did it in albums.
This is his flow.
Everybody else the otherlyricists J Cole should have
(10:13):
been this level.
Do you know what I'm saying?
And it didn't happen so to me.
That's why I said I'm done withit, because there's only one
person out of this whole beef isactually speaking to the.
You know, like I said, he'sgoing with the terms of a beef.
Do you say I'm gonna call youout lyrically?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
okay, okay that's, and that's me, okay, okay.
So what do you think about it?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
well, um, I mean, it was expected, you know, you bite
the lion's tail, you, you get areaction, um, but I want to
speak From more, from like aliterally Literary standpoint or
perspective.
This man uses, symbolisms, uses, yeah, you know, like you said,
double entendres, tripleentendres.
He uses, like his body of workIs just it's crazy, you know,
(10:57):
like you literally have to studythis shit.
So big ups to him.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I mean, you know, I guess it's what We've been
waiting for as far as theculture is concerned, but the
thing about it he did, it's kindof I feel like he learned, like
from Eminem Pretty much thatsituation no, I'm talking about
For beefs, like cause Eminemdoes the same thing.
He goes hard on a track.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, this man actually you could tell Like he
didn't just Like.
This stuff is not like he, thisis his.
He put work into it like youknow.
It's structured, you know, likefrom the intro to the middle to
the yeah, like back in the daykumo versus ll kujay beef.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
There's things like that that they did the same
thing.
They had puns that had you knowthings that shot at the person
because they put work into ityeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's kind of the same thing as, like you compare,
like like bringing eminem uplike a good thing would be like
to look at the, the contrastbetween when mgk was taking
shots in eminem.
You listen to mgk's, you knowrecord and it's like, okay, one
syllable rhymes here and theresome kind of cheap stuff, stuff,
this and that little you knowvulgar thing about his daughter.
(12:02):
This and that, nothing reallyenlightening or little you know
vulgar thing about his daughter.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
This and that.
Nothing really enlightening, or?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
complicated, you know , and then Eminem's response is
like multisyllable rhymes,double entendres, he's going
over like stuff that it's likeyou have to pay attention to to
comprehend and understand whathe's saying.
So Kendrick is on that nextlevel.
But then I feel like Kendrickalso like has a really good
artistry and production teambehind him, so he's got a lot of
, you know, like this is likealmost like a six minutes long,
(12:26):
so it's a lot of different backups and downs and force, which
is great, but this beef, all ofthem have producers and
engineers, so there's levels tothe shit because 40 40 makes a
lot of drake stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
That's fire too.
Why can't you come up withsomething like that?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
again, like we said.
You know I think I said thisbefore Drake I feel like Drake
is more commercial.
If it's coming up withsomething that's going to bang
in the street Not bang in thestreet Something that's going to
bang in the club, Somethingthat's going to be repeated
Everybody jumps into it Then,yes, he's good at that.
But when it comes to this shitexcuse my French Art Right.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's levels to it.
That's an interesting thing,because I think that we are
seeing two very different fanbases and demographics in this
beef.
You could say that Becauseyou've got Drake's fan base,
which is going to be the sort ofmore top 40 pop listeners,
right, maybe listeners who arenot diehard hip hop fans, sorry
not to cut you off.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
key phrase pop.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yes, exactly, and then Kendrick's listeners fan
base is going to be a mix ofthat, but then also the diehard
hip-hop, boom-bop, boom-bap sortof lyricist fan base as well.
So you're going to have a mixof like.
I feel like the ace that Drakestill has up his sleeve is the
fact that he can connect to thatsort of cheap, catchy sort of
(13:41):
pop, just like he did with Backto Back, and have people singing
to a record that's a dissrecord, and if he does that,
then you're kind of winning thebattle because everyone's
singing along and dissing theother party when they're doing
it kind of by default.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I'm waiting for it.
I'm going to make a.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
All right Real quick.
On the diss song, I thinkEuphoria is great.
I think it was very executedlyrically well, flow, crazy, I
mean just.
I think he did that well and weknow that Kendrick's that type
of lyricist.
So this is what we were prettymuch expecting to get, so we got
(14:21):
it.
The only thing about it that Iwill say is I think it kind of
lacks some substance, and when Isay that, I mean on the aspect
of he didn't tell us anything wedidn't already know.
We know Drake has had plasticsurgery.
We know Drake had a problemwith his kid or you know, in the
(14:42):
beginning.
We know everything that you'resaying.
We know he's piggybacking offRick Ross.
He's piggybacking off Pusha T.
He's piggybacking off JoeBudden.
He's piggybacking off almosteverybody that has said
something about Drake.
So that's why he even said itin the song.
(15:02):
When I say we hate, that's whatI'm talking the culture now
hates you because and that'salso a double entendre on state
of the culture, which is a showthat was hosted by joe budden,
and yes, and we know, joe buddenand drake's relationship
probably isn't the best- yeah,but you know I'm saying so,
(15:23):
while he did all that and putdouble and triple entendres and
everything in there and he hadthat type of substance and
lyrical uh uh exercise and youknow what I'm saying and ability
and things like that, it's just, bro, you didn't tell me
anything, I didn't know.
There was nothing shocking aboutit.
So when I remember, when Ifirst heard hit him up even
though you might not remembertoo many lyrics of the song,
(15:46):
just hearing that's why I fuckedyour fat mother, you know, just
hearing that you were like, ohmy God, this is where it's going
.
And then he started doing themob deep thing and everything
like that and you were just like, oh my God, this is what it is.
So for me, hearing kendrickkind of pop shot drake this
whole time was just like it wasas great as the technique was,
(16:13):
the execution, to me, waslacking but you also got or
sorry, I got something to say goahead different error,
different time yeah back thendidn't have social media to
pretty much put all theinformation for you.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So Kendrick is using what everybody else do know, but
then he put it on pretty muchon wax.
Why didn't Drake do that?
Why didn't J Cole didn't dothat this era?
Because you said again I knowyou're referencing the Tupac
situation or whatever, but againwe didn't know about that until
we heard it on wax right?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yes, but what I'm saying is Kendrick's doing it
too, because Kendrick said itDon't tell lies about me, I
won't tell truth about you, soobviously you know something.
Say it.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Okay, let's not do this whole little.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I know something you don't know.
It's so childish I want to see.
But I know something you don'tknow, it's so childish.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I want to see.
But he also said he also said Imight hit you with the back to
back.
So the which which?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
he might be dropping, so maybe he might be doing that
later, so, and that might bewhat I'm waiting for.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But but I think the other thing to remember is like
the Biggie Tupac situation.
I mean, that was a lot of backand forth.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
It got really intense over the faith evidence, over
that and then, and then somepeople might have known that he
fucked biggie's bitch, just thatit wasn't.
It wasn't you know.
So it's kind of like this storythere's some people that don't
know about this trick thingpeople been doing radio
interviews and there's beenvideo cassette interviews for
the longest.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So if somebody wanted to put that information out,
they could have put thatinformation out it was but the
way information flowed back thenis not the same way it flows
Speaker 4 (17:51):
here, Okay, but still , let's get this tightened up.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, but still, the idea behind it for me is like I
said, all this is great, he dida great job, everything like
that.
He just was was lacking thecontent.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You're just saying tell me something I don't know
yes, tell me something I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Tell me something shocking.
Tell me something to make me go.
Oh, there was no, the song wasfunnier to any.
I laughed more than I said ohin the song, when he was the
part about sexy, red and right.
Y'all see too bad bitch I.
I was cracking up.
That was funny, but I think.
So you're saying go for thejugular.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
If you are going to be in a rap battle, you got to
go for the jugular.
But my overall thought is weare in a situation where we
haven't seen this since Princeand Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
We have a situation where we have Kendrick, who's
the artistic one, who's Prince?
Yeah where we have Kendrick,who's the artistic one, who's
Prince, and we have the poppyone in Drake, who's Michael
Jackson.
Mj was artistic.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't know what y'all talking about.
No, no, no Hold on, hold on,hold on.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Hold on, Hold on.
Let me get this point out there.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I mean not compared to Prince, of course, but he was
artistic though.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Now, that's the point I'm trying to make, because it
wasn't.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Don't call MJ and Drake in the same sense.
Bro, we have Bro Swank.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Swank look at me, in my eyes, brother.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
We are both African.
We love Michael Jackson thesame way.
He made Liberian Girl.
Alright, okay, pleaseunderstand what I'm saying here.
It was how Prince looked atartistry.
It's what he looked at MichaelJackson as completely lower than
him.
There's a story of Princeseeing Michael Jackson at a club
(19:31):
or something.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
They had beef and he played the guitar at him, type
shit.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So I think that this is the situation that we have,
where Kendrick has hit a pointwhere he's like yo, I'm nice,
I'm artistic, I do all of this.
You've heard my albums.
Now look at this guy.
All he does is make y'all dance, and he makes y'all sing along
or whatever.
Why do y'all like him so much?
I'm so much better than him.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
He does put out numbers, though Drake does put
out numbers.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And so did Mike, and Mike put out numbers too, and
that's what I'm saying, and I'mnot saying that's easy, jack is
an entertainer just like Mike.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Mike is too gifted to put.
Yeah, I hate the fact that youguys are putting Mike in.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I'm not boxing.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Mike up, I'm rolling in his grave right now.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I'm talking about how .
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Prince saw it.
That's all I'm talking about.
What did you?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
guys say I'm just saying that Michael Jackson is
so talented you can't put him ina box to.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, he's hard to compare.
Hard to compare.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Too many people I know Especially not to.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Drake knows, this guy is insanely talented.
I'm just comparing.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I got you.
I know what you mean.
I hear what you're saying, Ace.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
The thing that might be the reason why, you know,
kendrick had that line likedon't make me say what I know,
and he didn't say it, which iskind of, like you know, kind of
teasing, for that listener isalso, like you know, like again,
we maybe, maybe kendrick andhis team, for you know,
political or financial reasons,you know just the politics of it
don't want to say it becausethat's going to have detrimental
things on the industry orDrake's career.
And again, like you said, drakehas numbers, it's not in the
label's interest to have himfall off a bit.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It could probably start like a PDD thing, then
don't bring it up.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Who knows what it is?
We're not we're not sayingKendrick shouldn't have
mentioned that he knowssomething at all.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yes, If you're not going to say it or you can't say
it, then why bring it up?
That's like literally having agun on you and showing people
your gun, but you will not pullit yeah like don't fuck with me,
type shit.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
He didn't pull it out , he's just showing you, letting
you know that he got that ammo.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, exactly, but don't mess with me what's wrong
with that?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But what I'm saying is Kendrick's making it look
like he's not going to pull it.
He's just like I'm trying toscare you, but I'm not going to
pull it.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Maybe he's just waiting for Drake.
He's waiting for Drake'sresponse.
I might get back to that.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
See, now look.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Now you look interested.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Now you look interested.
Look at your face.
The next week we'll talk aboutthis more.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yes, yes, speaking of different combos and bullshit,
oh oh, let's talk about.
What had happened was of RyanGarcia getting popped for being
for cheating.
They say he's cheating becauseone, he was overweight three
pounds in the fight and he wasthinking that he's the best
(22:23):
fighter ever.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
That's what casuals are saying.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Casuals.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Some casuals and some— that's why we're calling
them not casuals.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
No, that's what people are saying, that's what
the experts, some experts aresaying, because some experts are
saying that Devin Haneyactually came into that fight
heavier than Ryan Garcia, eventhough Ryan Garcia missed weight
by three pounds.
But Devin Haney came into thefight.
When they hit the ring, haneywas heavier, so the three pounds
is null and void.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
But again, at the end of the day we talked about this
many podcasts before you weighin as a professional, you have
to weigh in like you're supposedto be a professional.
I'm not saying that After thatwe don't know what happens.
It happens to you Any fighter.
After you weigh in, you cangain 10, 15 pounds, you can eat
an elephant and come back.
Yeah, exactly, it's yourperformance-wise, how you carry
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yourself in your fight.
That, and also being on somekind of enhancement, that's the
cheating.
That's the cheating part of thething.
They really tested him.
He actually did.
He got on TikTok or whatever,saying that you know, I'm not a
cheater.
Um, I mean, ryan garcia saidthis I'm not a cheater, I never
cheat yeah, because you're acheater.
(23:32):
We definitely know hey, shutyour mouth, shut your mouth just
playing.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
But um.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
So what it is is like he, he comes out there but
there's literally studies andagain, this is what they do,
like they test yourself and ithappened in UFC too Like there's
people who fought one andwhatever, and they come back to
test the negative, positive fromsorry, positive of all these
things, and they have to takeaway that belt.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Like the Lance Armstrong.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, but the thing about it is, this is what's
crazy.
Because if you're, you know youtook some enhancement, even for
oxygen or whatever.
There's a system that is alwaystested.
It's going to be caught.
You're going to be caught someway.
Somehow it's going to bebrought back out.
And he still stands by this.
He's not cheating.
(24:19):
They're going to go, of course,going to go to a committee and
pretty much just like anything.
Why risk that?
If you this is your, your name,especially in boxing, because
boxing is literally your nameholds weight of going forward to
make big money, if you'recheating by doing that, you will
get tossed in like why would Igo against this cheater?
(24:40):
You know saying especially ryangarcia has been on, he was on
the thread anyways by that Causehe wasn't pulling numbers
before, can I?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
can I ask you a question real quick, um not to
cut you off, so I know in in insoccer football right, um,
what's his name?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Paul football.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
American football soccer.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You started he was like I can't disrespect my
people.
No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
You know.
American listeners are here.
They're like football.
If you're in Rome, you act likethe Romans.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
So Paul Pogba, he used to play for Juventus, right
, and he got caught with I don'tknow taking a substance or
whatever.
He got banned for, I believe,four or five years.
That's what happened this time.
So now in football, right,right.
So in in boxing, what kind oflike?
What kind of punishment like Imean other than you know, taking
your title away from you, like,do they lose money?
Do they get banned for, like,an extended period of?
(25:26):
time not get booked anymore areyou trying to like what's the
punishment, like what's all ofall of it, all of it.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Oh yeah, it can be all of that, but politics
depends.
Remember they have canelo testpositive.
He claimed it was, uh, that badmexican beef, mexican beef,
whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And speaking, he's about to fight this weekend too.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
They didn't do anything to him.
Sorry, they what like.
What was the punishment like?
Speaker 6 (25:49):
wasn't much anything.
I think they kept them out,maybe for a little bit, but
wasn't much.
So it really depends on yourstar power, who you are, all of
that yeah how far they really gowith it.
Some people get blasted and thensome people get the slap on the
wrist and then they're, they'reback.
So it's hard to know.
I think the question is herealso is that I don't know if it
was mandatory, right.
(26:10):
So sometimes the testing ismandatory and then you kind of
know, and then sometimes it'svoluntary this is voluntary,
wasn't this voluntary?
I think this is voluntary,which is another piece that
makes it kind of confusing, likeif you chose to be tested, then
what exactly did you take, orknowingly, or not.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Do we know the substance?
Do we know what substance hegot caught taking?
Speaker 6 (26:29):
yeah, they have a list of them.
There's at least three to fourof them.
Supposedly.
The first one I think one of usalluded to is one that's not
even really connected to thenormal ped stuff.
Yeah, and that's what doesn't,you know, make sense like that.
The first sample was like sowhy would you take it's banned,
but it's not say banned for thisreason, so why would you do
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that?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
So it just creates confusion and actually I'm sorry
cut you off, but I did lookthat one up, that one.
I forget what it's called atthis point, but yeah, something
like that, but it's.
It's basically it helps withrehydration, so you.
So that's why he was taking it.
You looked at it.
When I looked at it, itbasically said it didn't help
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for muscle strength enhancementor anything like that.
It just helped that you like.
Basically you didn't losemuscle while, I guess, you were
training or while you werecutting weight.
So that's why he got hit withit.
When he got hit with it,because you get tested.
If I'm correct, you get testedeven before the fight.
Yeah, before that fight you gettested a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
Right, there are a bunch of samples, and this is
another reason, for example,since we're going to talk about
how boxing was one of thequestions.
This is why Pacquiao sort ofhas an asterisk with some people
, because he refused testing andhis reasoning was because he
doesn't like needles, smart guy.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I mean shit.
I don't like needles.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
With tattoos.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I mean, there are other ways to make tattoos.
You don't have to do needles.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
But still, you know, when you say yourself you're a
professional fighter, you getyour face Devils advocate.
But you're afraid of a needle,so you're not doing that and
therefore now people arewondering, like so wait a minute
, how is it that you went from122 and you can knock out a guy
at 160 pounds?
Like how does that physicallyhappen?
Some people are kind of curiousabout it, so it's an asterisk.
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Now what's going to happen withRyan?
It's going to be veryinteresting.
Why?
Because he's very popular, yeah.
So is he going to get a slap inthe wrist?
He's already called out Trump.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah, exactly you.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
You don't like me because you don't like Trump.
And I was with Trump because hewas trying to show Cody Cody
what the heck is it?
Huffington how to throw a hookand Cody's a clown.
So it's like oh, once you seeCody, you're going to see the
Trumpsters and the rest of them.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah, Like after he won he was doing this like his,
his, I guess in front of Trumpand then like vote for Trump
2024.
And I was like, yeah, clown.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
He's selling this.
Yeah, he's selling this.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
He's selling it, but if this, this is going to mess
him up, if he actually is caught, Potentially, potentially, and
you know what you know we talkedabout last time.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Devin Haney's father, bill, has a little bit of a
hole, so he might end up makingsomething.
Now let's not pretend that,even though we have this
situation, that Ryan can't punchyeah, exactly.
And let's not pretend thatDevin Haney has an iron jaw,
right, linares, loma, all thesepeople actually hurt him,
(29:23):
stunned him, who are lighterweight and have less power than
Ryan.
So those are legitimate smashesto the face.
And guess what?
You did stupid stuff in orderto get punched in the face.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
No, no, that's true, but if it's enhanced by some
kind of, that's like, like yousaid, if I put a five pound
weight in my hand, regardless offive pounds, that's five pounds
with a powerful punch that youhave.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
That's what it's trying to figure out.
Right, we're trying to figureit out.
But if you have a five-poundweight in your hand and you
punch me in the face and youknock me out, guess what If I
have an eggshell jaw, that youcould have knocked me out with
your finger?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
now the question is so you think he had an eggshell
jaw?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
regardless, he's been hurt many times and saved so
the question is the first roundof effect.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Has he ever been knocked down in his first round?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
I have to look back in the fights but he's been
stumbling in his ring aftergetting punched in the face by a
single shot when the guy wasnot a knockout.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I'm not saying what you're saying is wrong, but I'm
saying like, if you look at thenumbers, it's kind of weird that
the first round that he has Imean a boxer who's a
professional to take the firstpunch, to be like what the hell,
and he gets staggered.
That's the thing about it.
They're trying to question,like he's not normally that kind
until later rounds.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Well you have to then say well, has Ryan knocked out
people first round or early?
No, he has, he has.
He has hurt people early, Notknocked out cold, but he's hurt
people early.
Yes, he has Body shot all drill.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So we're saying that Ryan has the power.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
He has the power, haney didn't get knocked out
cold either.
No, he didn't, but he gotknocked down on the first.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
It was a clean shot.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
They called it.
It was a knockdown.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
As a non-boxer or as a non-box fan.
Following this, I do find itinteresting to hear about how
the ramifications aren't clearlyspelled out.
Some leagues will have acertain penalty for different
things, but the politics of itand who you are, obviously, what
your booking capacity is,that's big and important.
(31:23):
I remember Tyson damn near bitoff a dude's ear and that didn't
seem to really end him.
I mean, it hurt him probably,but he's still around.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Like I said, he's been in jail and he's popular
right now, yeah, so it takes alot.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Like A-Train said, it is a popularity vote.
I mean, again, it bringsnumbers, regardless of what it
is.
I mean I don't want to bring upthe Trump situation because
he's going through trial, he'sstill going to probably be the
president, because it's nottypical, hey, man, let's, let's
not speak negativity into theair, but I'm telling you have to
(31:56):
don't even don't even put thatsentence together again.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay whose man is this hey guess what?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
guess what you have to.
It's reality.
It's reality, I'm moving tobrazil with bruno.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I'm telling you i'm'm moving back to Nigeria.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Everybody says it, but who other Republican is
going to be him?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You mean a Democrat?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, I think I think at this point he's the
Republican unless he can getlocked up before.
Exactly so.
Like going forward, there's nothreat for him to be.
It's closer to 50-50 if it goesto Democrat right.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Aliens, if you're out there, just take them.
We don't want them, just takethem.
Do what you're probing, dowhatever you want.
Learn whatever you need.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Just take them.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
We don't want them.
Okay, alright, we're going togo there.
Don't shake your head, we'renot doing politics.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Bro, don't get me started.
We can, but.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I refrain from it.
I'm not trying to let Ace cookon this one, not on this one.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I don't even want to cook on this one.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
We will talk about this later, but coming up is a
Canelo fight is also coming upthis weekend.
Right, right, adrian, I thinkAbsolutely I'll let you guys
sauce that out, but what?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
makes it interesting is that we're all about beefs.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Well, yeah, this is beef.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
If you could actually go and show a little bit of
Delahoya representing Mungia theopponent.
He has serious beef with Canelobecause Canelo's part of Golden
Boy.
So since he cut from him andbasically cut all of them, I
mean that's a lot of money thatgolden boy lost when canelo left
and basically their uh, what doyou call weigh-in?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
yeah, have you heard about that?
Speaker 5 (33:37):
it went completely bananas when you think that the
fighters would be against eachother.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Instead, they began dropping big bombs with each
other, like you know what.
So even delahoy had yes, I wasin rehab, yes, I did all these
things.
I had mental problems.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
But Golden Boy made you Respect my name.
He said respect my name, man.
They went personal he said yorespect my name.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Put some respect on it.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
And yo Canelo and his Mexicans.
He's like fuck you, you knowwhat's so interesting.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Someone said to me and made me laugh really loud.
He said you know what canelowhen you bring the mic to him?
He's spanish, he speaks spanish, he has only two words of
english.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Once he gets angry, he knows no spanish curse you,
you, you fuck you english, allenglish curse words.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
It was the like by the bitch, but you gotta think
that has to be a little bitstrategic, no seriously.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Seriously, you got to think about it, Because at that
time he could say all the cusswords he want and his
Spanish-speaking audience wouldnever hear him cuss.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's true.
You know what I'm saying.
Well, it's like that viralvideo of the two Indian guys and
one of them cuts the other guyoff in traffic.
And they're like fuck you, youbloody bastard, you fuck you
fuck you.
And they just the same insultback and forth.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah, they cut off, like different customers.
So that's how I think this isgoing to be kind of like and I
think, like you said, it mightbe a strategic way of promoting
this fight, because, again,nobody really knew about this
fight like that.
It wasn't promoted to be a goodbig fight for Canelo but no, it
is, it is.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
It's a bit for boxing heads.
It is a big fight.
Yeah for a couple of reasons.
One is Canelo Good, bad beef,not beef.
He lost to be of all.
Be of all is six feet tall.
He fought be of all.
At what weight was lightheavyweight right, can I know?
For some reason, I don't knowwhere you, how you went weight?
It was light heavyweight right,canelo.
For some reason, I don't knowhow you went from 154 to light
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heavyweight right.
That's a hundred, and what isit?
A hundred and six, 175 pounds?
How do you go that far up?
Nobody does that.
But here's the thing.
Mungia doesn't look at it, butI've worked as he was one of my
opponents.
Manjia doesn't look at it, butI've worked as with.
He was one of my opponents backin the day.
I'll leave it at that.
(35:54):
Manjia is six feet tall.
He don't look it, but he's sixfeet tall.
So you imagine you're fightinga guy who probably, going back
to the other conversation onfight night might be a light
heavyweight when he steps inthere.
So you don't know what's goingto happen in on fight night.
Might be a light heavyweightwhen he steps in there.
So you don't know what's goingto happen in this fight With all
(36:14):
the skill set, you'll say toyourself you know what I know?
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Canelo's going to win because he does that and the
other he has good footwork andwhatever, but does he have
knockout power to knock a biggerguy?
Speaker 6 (36:22):
you're going to say when G has knocked out?
Guys, I didn't expect him toknock out because he doesn't
look as scary or as tough as heis, and just like some people
may have thought twice aboutB-Vol because he's so straight
up and down, no special effectstype of fighter, guess what?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
This dude is as big as him.
We ain't going to do nopredictions.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
We're not going to do anything, but I'm looking
forward to finding out who won.
Yeah, because y'all don't takeyour shots, that's crazy, that's
crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Okay, that's crazy.
Alright, any hope, so IAnything else.
I think we're good for tonight.
I think I love thisconversation.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Any plans for this weekend, gentlemen?
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Can I?
Can I say something?
Absolutely yes, you may okay'dlike to put a big shout out to
our friend Francis Ngannou.
Oh yeah, His son is 15 monthsold and for those people who
know about kids or have kids orwhatever it is.
He has said basically what am.
I doing this for Losing thischild 18 months right 15.
(37:29):
He was like I child.
To him it was 18 months, 18months, right, 15.
15 months.
He was like I'm done, oh damn,15 months, like he may quit.
Because he was just likeeverything that I do is for my
future is now for A the future,but now the future is solidified
by having a child.
So you felt it when heresponded that way.
You're like man, I don't evenknow where this guy, because
when you think about it, here'sthe thing you were treated badly
(37:52):
by the UFC.
You found your own way.
You found a way to make money,even though you got knocked out
against Anthony Joshua.
You're now 20 million.
How many million dollars thatyou made in the last two fights?
Right, fury and Joshua, youhave a son.
You probably thought when thiskid was born, my life.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Is now here.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Yeah, and all of a sudden this happens, so you know
he's crushed.
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
That's sad, bro.
It's sad.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Shout out to him, bro Micah Nolans, to his family.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
For real.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, damn.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
That's really rough.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, and you know, like I said, I don't know the
devil is working overtime thisperiod.
Imagine, like you said, andthis might just take away that
whole light, that whole fire inhim as far as his career is
concerned.
I think he actually said it.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
I think he actually said it in Twitter, Like I think
, why am I doing this?
Like this is, you might not seethe same Ngani again Like he
has no fire.
No, he has no like.
He's like done like he feelslike I shouldn't be doing this
thing because it's showing thatyou know something like that.
He said well, why.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I mean selfishly, because of course he's an
amazing athlete I want to seehim fight again Right Um compete
again and just fight whateverhe does, I want to see him again
Top level Um but at all thetime he needs, yes, oh yeah,
hopefully this is just a momentin time for him and, you know,
(39:12):
with the right support, and youknow he can, you know, find
himself and hopefully find thatthat light again and fire, but
again, yeah, if, if he it is,you know his call for him and
his family.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
So all right, yeah, and then as parents man, you
don't.
No parent ever wants to burytheir kid yeah, yeah, definitely
you know anybody else that's.
That's a huge one.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Our condolences to his family man, I'm good, y'all
good, I mean like I said,anything Dang we just going to
drop this bomb on us now.
That looks like anything forthis weekend.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
I mean not to maybe lighten it, but anything for
this weekend, for y'all, I wasgoing to hit the streets but
maybe I mean this dude over herewith a tank top on suns out,
guns out.
I'm in the gym for a reasonFace ass Made for the streets.
I'm made for the streets, allright.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
But yo, eagle, am I in the streets?
No, I'm not.
I'll let you know.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I'll let you know Anybody else I?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
know.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I mean, yeah, y'all know me, bro, daddy anything,
I'll be in the studio working onsome music, and then Bruno and
I we just had our.
I guess last week was fivemonths since we've actually been
together Five years actually.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Sorry, sorry, sorry, I was tripping, tripping.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Five years since we've been together.
So we're going to do a littleouting and just hang out on
Saturday and chill.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Happy anniversary, sir.
Congrats to you guys.
Man, Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
You going to New York ?
No, no, new York, he alwaysgoes to New York.
That's what he does on theweekends.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
We got a camp going so not this week.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, I might be in the studio too.
I think that's what it's callednow these days, this weekend,
this guy Afro beats.
I'm going to be cooking up somebeats, Afro guy.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Afro guy.
Let me hear it, man, I'll dropsome bars to it.
You know, Let me hear it.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Well, shout out to y'all.
Hopefully we do better nexttime.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Thanks you guys.
Peace, Peace Cheers.
DMV, dmv.
My man Swank what up?
And my man Ego on the board.
You know what's going on,gentlemen, how y'all doing, how
y'all feeling.
Friday Eve, another Thursday,wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Can't complain hanging in there.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I mean, the weather's nice, it's hot, the site's been
nice out in the streets.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Sun dresses out.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Boy, it's been super nice.
I love it, I enjoy it.
This is my season.
I'm a looker, I'm a visualperson, so I just like to look,
you know sometimes.
So you know this is my time andwhere I work at is like it's
different.
It's different In what way?
(01:24):
Because I don't want to divulgewhere I work at.
No, you know what I'm saying,but like I don't want to divulge
, but I'm going to say there's alot of like smart people there,
phds and you know what I'msaying?
Just all types of stuff them,the free kids, though Possibly I
haven't.
I haven't had the pleasure yet,so I don't know Careful what
(01:45):
you ask for.
Oh yeah, you know what I'msaying.
So, hey, it's all good.
I don't know, so I let it slide, but it's just you know right
Quick.
Bruh Bruh.
But it's just wild being there,because there's a lot of things
that you just wouldn't expectthat you would see, because it's
(02:06):
I'm going to be honest there'sa lot of nerdy women there.
Yes, there's a lot of nerdywomen there, and this whole
winter I never knew that a lotof those nerdy women Was kicked
up, holy crap.
We're going to give you a sightto see when the weather got
(02:27):
warm.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
What a time to be alive.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's a very interesting thing.
Yam's my hammy, god damn.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I don't even know if that's what she said.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I've never even heard that one.
That's a hashtag ego rightthere.
I never even heard that one,exactly.
You can't.
Yeah, that's a hashtag egoright there.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm telling you hey, what'd you say?
Hams, miami Yams, miami Yams,miami Yams, all day.
Yep, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
First piece of merch.
First piece of merch rightthere.
But yeah, that's what I'msaying.
It's crazy because it's likeduring the winter time they all
cover it up, they're all walkingaround.
Yeah, you don't know like it'scold well, yeah, I'm cold.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I'm wearing a parka too, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Oh my god, yeah, I'm not gonna say I ain't holding a
parka, but yeah, yeah, um,speaking of interesting things,
things that blew you away.
Pause, if necessary.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Pause, I don't even know what's a pause anymore, so
I'll just be saying pause ifnecessary.
Yeah, my hammy is a pause.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
No, you can't, because you don't even know the
term.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
yet I don't even know what it is, but I know it's a
pause.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Pause all night.
Yeah, yeah, interesting thingsblew people away.
Kendrick lamar dropped aresponse.
Yo, yeah, I okay.
Last week I said I was donetalking about this lies, but
then I also did say that unlesskendrick responded.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
And now kendrick has responded, but I told you he was
going to.
You said that.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I don't know.
Okay, I didn't know because Ididn't know how long it was
going to take.
It was already two weeks, so Igot disinterested, okay.
So you know what I'm saying Now.
He's piqued my interest again,mark you know what I'm saying,
mark.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
No no, mark.
I'm telling you this man washappy, mark came.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Mark hit the group chat ASAP, like you.
What was my response?
Ego was like nah, we ain'ttalking about this.
He kept going.
And I had my man, mark, back.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
We've been following the trend of this whole beef
from when it started, all theway from Big 3 to just me, to
Drake's response to the AIs, toRick Ross' response to J Cole's.
We've done it all.
So it just makes sense wefollow up on the next episode,
because I honestly do not thinkthat this is going to be it.
I think that Drake is going tocome back and say something.
I don't think this is the final.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Guess what.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Guess what, mark?
No, no, we're going to talkabout it.
We're going to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Definitely, no, definitely, we're done.
After tonight, you better tosee us on the fucking Instagram
post and shit, because we're nottalking about this shit on
fucking podcast.
We are, we are.
Can we talk?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
about Chris Brown, then I do want, I actually want
to mention that Shit Now thatyou brought it up.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
No, no no, I don't want to really talk about it,
but I do want to mention it.
I do want to mention it becauseI'm going to yeah, because he
went the hardest out of everyone.
He said the most crazy thing.
Thank you, I will say he, saidhe basically said we Because
this is.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
If an R&B artist is going harder than a rapper,
Afrobeat artists are goingagainst themselves too.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I mean, we can touch on it all if y'all want to touch
on it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
We can touch on all the beef, Paul.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
You see, I wasn't going to do that.
I purposely, I purposely leftit at where I left it, michael
Scott that's what she said onman.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I got to say Pause, let's see.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But yeah, for real, for real, Kendrick's not bad.
No, but yeah, Kendrick came inand he came in hard.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
He came in, this disc to me sounded almost like a
compressed album.
He came in with an intro thatwas similar to the way an album
would start with a veryintricate sample, which is a, a
rewinded version of a quote from, uh, a remake of the wizard of
Oz, which featured, uh, michaelJackson in it as one of the
(06:32):
actors who Drake compareshimself to often, sometimes as,
like you know, the king of ofpop music and stuff like that.
Uh, this sort of as a doubleentrandra, in the sense that he
had that movie used with theactor or one of the cast, the
scaretro, actually being playedby Michael Jackson, and that
(06:53):
kind of is saying the quotethat's in reverse is saying
don't listen to them or no, it'sall true, listen to them, I am
a phony.
And that's played in reverse.
So that kind of goes to show islike he's saying that Drake is
a phony and then he's alsosaying that, again, like the
Wizard of Oz in that movie was aphony, and then, on top of that
, all the characters like theScarecrow lacked a brain, tin
(07:13):
man lacked a heart and Lionlacked courage, that's all kind
of like shots from Kendrick atDrake's and he lacks courage and
heart and a brain andeverything.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I wish I had to part when it started off.
But do you want to listen alittle bit of it?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I mean we can play a little bit of it.
I mean, is there a certain partY'all want to take it from?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
the we can't play the whole thing because it's six
minutes long.
It's a long record.
It's like a compressed album.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's an EP of its own type of thing.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
You want to start it from a minute.
I think we should start it froma minute.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I guess start it from a minute in, I guess I don't
you know.
Let's see what he did.
I'm not exactly sure, I guessthat's good for it.
Yeah, this is right after theintro ends and the actual yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
There's a fake engineer over here.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
It's off thelabel.
My bad Shout out to J Cole.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
The flow's crazy.
I can't lie about that, yo, hekilled it, I'm telling you.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
The flow is crazy.
I don't like my trap shit, butthis shit went hard.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Well, I think the good thing about this is he's
got a lot of diversity in hisflow.
The whole song, production-wise, has a lot of diversity.
It starts off with an intro,slow sort of melodic, obviously
the sample, then he gets intothis banger and he's got a lot
of different back and forth withhis flow.
Again, I think that a lot ofone of the things that I feel
(09:04):
like drake still has is he didkind of send out a response.
There was the part where he'stalking about like I hate the
way you do this, I hate the wayyou look, I hate the way you do
that, which drake's response wasto tweet.
I think it was from a tv showwhich is kind of like a middle
school drama, and like one ofthe girls was like I hate the
way you look at me.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
I hate the way you wear your hair.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I hate the way you do that kind of similar style of
you know his put down.
Yeah, but again, that's just atweet.
We haven't heard his actualresponse yet, but the fact that
he already put that out meanswhy, well, so it's pretty recent
, but it means he's probablyformulating something so we all
have heard the, the response,we've all heard euphoria.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
We all have heard it right, yeah, what do you guys
think about it?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I, I like it.
I mean again, this is from myopinion on a lyricist that's
actually a lyricist like thisperson is.
This is what he was bred from,right he, he doesn't do the all
right, let me find the Nietzschekind of thing.
He did it in albums.
This is his flow.
Everybody else the otherlyricists J Cole should have
(10:13):
been this level.
Do you know what I'm saying?
And it didn't happen so to me.
That's why I said I'm done withit, because there's only one
person out of this whole beef isactually speaking to the.
You know, like I said, he'sgoing with the terms of a beef.
Do you say I'm gonna call youout lyrically?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
okay, okay that's, and that's me, okay, okay.
So what do you think about it?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
well, um, I mean, it was expected, you know, you bite
the lion's tail, you, you get areaction, um, but I want to
speak From more, from like aliterally Literary standpoint or
perspective.
This man uses, symbolisms, uses, yeah, you know, like you said,
double entendres, tripleentendres.
He uses, like his body of workIs just it's crazy, you know,
(10:57):
like you literally have to studythis shit.
So big ups to him.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I mean, you know, I guess it's what We've been
waiting for as far as theculture is concerned, but the
thing about it he did, it's kindof I feel like he learned, like
from Eminem Pretty much thatsituation no, I'm talking about
For beefs, like cause Eminemdoes the same thing.
He goes hard on a track.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, this man actually you could tell Like he
didn't just Like.
This stuff is not like he, thisis his.
He put work into it like youknow.
It's structured, you know, likefrom the intro to the middle to
the yeah, like back in the daykumo versus ll kujay beef.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
There's things like that that they did the same
thing.
They had puns that had you knowthings that shot at the person
because they put work into ityeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's kind of the same thing as, like you compare,
like like bringing eminem uplike a good thing would be like
to look at the, the contrastbetween when mgk was taking
shots in eminem.
You listen to mgk's, you knowrecord and it's like, okay, one
syllable rhymes here and theresome kind of cheap stuff, stuff,
this and that little you knowvulgar thing about his daughter.
(12:02):
This and that, nothing reallyenlightening or little you know
vulgar thing about his daughter.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
This and that.
Nothing really enlightening, or?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
complicated, you know , and then Eminem's response is
like multisyllable rhymes,double entendres, he's going
over like stuff that it's likeyou have to pay attention to to
comprehend and understand whathe's saying.
So Kendrick is on that nextlevel.
But then I feel like Kendrickalso like has a really good
artistry and production teambehind him, so he's got a lot of
, you know, like this is likealmost like a six minutes long,
(12:26):
so it's a lot of different backups and downs and force, which
is great, but this beef, all ofthem have producers and
engineers, so there's levels tothe shit because 40 40 makes a
lot of drake stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
That's fire too.
Why can't you come up withsomething like that?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
again, like we said.
You know I think I said thisbefore Drake I feel like Drake
is more commercial.
If it's coming up withsomething that's going to bang
in the street Not bang in thestreet Something that's going to
bang in the club, Somethingthat's going to be repeated
Everybody jumps into it Then,yes, he's good at that.
But when it comes to this shitexcuse my French Art Right.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
It's levels to it.
That's an interesting thing,because I think that we are
seeing two very different fanbases and demographics in this
beef.
You could say that Becauseyou've got Drake's fan base,
which is going to be the sort ofmore top 40 pop listeners,
right, maybe listeners who arenot diehard hip hop fans, sorry
not to cut you off.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
key phrase pop.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yes, exactly, and then Kendrick's listeners fan
base is going to be a mix ofthat, but then also the diehard
hip-hop, boom-bop, boom-bap sortof lyricist fan base as well.
So you're going to have a mixof like.
I feel like the ace that Drakestill has up his sleeve is the
fact that he can connect to thatsort of cheap, catchy sort of
(13:41):
pop, just like he did with Backto Back, and have people singing
to a record that's a dissrecord, and if he does that,
then you're kind of winning thebattle because everyone's
singing along and dissing theother party when they're doing
it kind of by default.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I'm waiting for it.
I'm going to make a.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
All right Real quick.
On the diss song, I thinkEuphoria is great.
I think it was very executedlyrically well, flow, crazy, I
mean just.
I think he did that well and weknow that Kendrick's that type
of lyricist.
So this is what we were prettymuch expecting to get, so we got
(14:21):
it.
The only thing about it that Iwill say is I think it kind of
lacks some substance, and when Isay that, I mean on the aspect
of he didn't tell us anything wedidn't already know.
We know Drake has had plasticsurgery.
We know Drake had a problemwith his kid or you know, in the
(14:42):
beginning.
We know everything that you'resaying.
We know he's piggybacking offRick Ross.
He's piggybacking off Pusha T.
He's piggybacking off JoeBudden.
He's piggybacking off almosteverybody that has said
something about Drake.
So that's why he even said itin the song.
(15:02):
When I say we hate, that's whatI'm talking the culture now
hates you because and that'salso a double entendre on state
of the culture, which is a showthat was hosted by joe budden,
and yes, and we know, joe buddenand drake's relationship
probably isn't the best- yeah,but you know I'm saying so,
(15:23):
while he did all that and putdouble and triple entendres and
everything in there and he hadthat type of substance and
lyrical uh uh exercise and youknow what I'm saying and ability
and things like that, it's just, bro, you didn't tell me
anything, I didn't know.
There was nothing shocking aboutit.
So when I remember, when Ifirst heard hit him up even
though you might not remembertoo many lyrics of the song,
(15:46):
just hearing that's why I fuckedyour fat mother, you know, just
hearing that you were like, ohmy God, this is where it's going
.
And then he started doing themob deep thing and everything
like that and you were just like, oh my God, this is what it is.
So for me, hearing kendrickkind of pop shot drake this
whole time was just like it wasas great as the technique was,
(16:13):
the execution, to me, waslacking but you also got or
sorry, I got something to say goahead different error,
different time yeah back thendidn't have social media to
pretty much put all theinformation for you.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
So Kendrick is using what everybody else do know, but
then he put it on pretty muchon wax.
Why didn't Drake do that?
Why didn't J Cole didn't dothat this era?
Because you said again I knowyou're referencing the Tupac
situation or whatever, but againwe didn't know about that until
we heard it on wax right?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yes, but what I'm saying is Kendrick's doing it
too, because Kendrick said itDon't tell lies about me, I
won't tell truth about you, soobviously you know something.
Say it.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Okay, let's not do this whole little.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I know something you don't know.
It's so childish I want to see.
But I know something you don'tknow, it's so childish.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I want to see.
But he also said he also said Imight hit you with the back to
back.
So the which which?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
he might be dropping, so maybe he might be doing that
later, so, and that might bewhat I'm waiting for.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
But but I think the other thing to remember is like
the Biggie Tupac situation.
I mean, that was a lot of backand forth.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
It got really intense over the faith evidence, over
that and then, and then somepeople might have known that he
fucked biggie's bitch, just thatit wasn't.
It wasn't you know.
So it's kind of like this storythere's some people that don't
know about this trick thingpeople been doing radio
interviews and there's beenvideo cassette interviews for
the longest.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So if somebody wanted to put that information out,
they could have put thatinformation out it was but the
way information flowed back thenis not the same way it flows
Speaker 4 (17:51):
here, Okay, but still , let's get this tightened up.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, but still, the idea behind it for me is like I
said, all this is great, he dida great job, everything like
that.
He just was was lacking thecontent.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You're just saying tell me something I don't know
yes, tell me something I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Tell me something shocking.
Tell me something to make me go.
Oh, there was no, the song wasfunnier to any.
I laughed more than I said ohin the song, when he was the
part about sexy, red and right.
Y'all see too bad bitch I.
I was cracking up.
That was funny, but I think.
So you're saying go for thejugular.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
If you are going to be in a rap battle, you got to
go for the jugular.
But my overall thought is weare in a situation where we
haven't seen this since Princeand Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
We have a situation where we have Kendrick, who's
the artistic one, who's Prince?
Yeah where we have Kendrick,who's the artistic one, who's
Prince, and we have the poppyone in Drake, who's Michael
Jackson.
Mj was artistic.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I don't know what y'all talking about.
No, no, no Hold on, hold on,hold on.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Hold on, Hold on.
Let me get this point out there.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I mean not compared to Prince, of course, but he was
artistic though.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Now, that's the point I'm trying to make, because it
wasn't.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Don't call MJ and Drake in the same sense.
Bro, we have Bro Swank.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Swank look at me, in my eyes, brother.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
We are both African.
We love Michael Jackson thesame way.
He made Liberian Girl.
Alright, okay, pleaseunderstand what I'm saying here.
It was how Prince looked atartistry.
It's what he looked at MichaelJackson as completely lower than
him.
There's a story of Princeseeing Michael Jackson at a club
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or something.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
They had beef and he played the guitar at him, type
shit.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So I think that this is the situation that we have,
where Kendrick has hit a pointwhere he's like yo, I'm nice,
I'm artistic, I do all of this.
You've heard my albums.
Now look at this guy.
All he does is make y'all dance, and he makes y'all sing along
or whatever.
Why do y'all like him so much?
I'm so much better than him.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
He does put out numbers, though Drake does put
out numbers.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
And so did Mike, and Mike put out numbers too, and
that's what I'm saying, and I'mnot saying that's easy, jack is
an entertainer just like Mike.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Mike is too gifted to put.
Yeah, I hate the fact that youguys are putting Mike in.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I'm not boxing.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Mike up, I'm rolling in his grave right now.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I'm talking about how .
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Prince saw it.
That's all I'm talking about.
What did you?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
guys say I'm just saying that Michael Jackson is
so talented you can't put him ina box to.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, he's hard to compare.
Hard to compare.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Too many people I know Especially not to.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Drake knows, this guy is insanely talented.
I'm just comparing.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I got you.
I know what you mean.
I hear what you're saying, Ace.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
The thing that might be the reason why, you know,
kendrick had that line likedon't make me say what I know,
and he didn't say it, which iskind of, like you know, kind of
teasing, for that listener isalso, like you know, like again,
we maybe, maybe kendrick andhis team, for you know,
political or financial reasons,you know just the politics of it
don't want to say it becausethat's going to have detrimental
things on the industry orDrake's career.
And again, like you said, drakehas numbers, it's not in the
label's interest to have himfall off a bit.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
It could probably start like a PDD thing, then
don't bring it up.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Who knows what it is?
We're not we're not sayingKendrick shouldn't have
mentioned that he knowssomething at all.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yes, If you're not going to say it or you can't say
it, then why bring it up?
That's like literally having agun on you and showing people
your gun, but you will not pullit yeah like don't fuck with me,
type shit.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
He didn't pull it out , he's just showing you, letting
you know that he got that ammo.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah, exactly, but don't mess with me what's wrong
with that?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But what I'm saying is Kendrick's making it look
like he's not going to pull it.
He's just like I'm trying toscare you, but I'm not going to
pull it.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Maybe he's just waiting for Drake.
He's waiting for Drake'sresponse.
I might get back to that.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
See, now look.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Now you look interested.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Now you look interested.
Look at your face.
The next week we'll talk aboutthis more.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yes, yes, speaking of different combos and bullshit,
oh oh, let's talk about.
What had happened was of RyanGarcia getting popped for being
for cheating.
They say he's cheating becauseone, he was overweight three
pounds in the fight and he wasthinking that he's the best
(22:23):
fighter ever.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
That's what casuals are saying.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Casuals.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Some casuals and some— that's why we're calling
them not casuals.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
No, that's what people are saying, that's what
the experts, some experts aresaying, because some experts are
saying that Devin Haneyactually came into that fight
heavier than Ryan Garcia, eventhough Ryan Garcia missed weight
by three pounds.
But Devin Haney came into thefight.
When they hit the ring, haneywas heavier, so the three pounds
is null and void.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
But again, at the end of the day we talked about this
many podcasts before you weighin as a professional, you have
to weigh in like you're supposedto be a professional.
I'm not saying that After thatwe don't know what happens.
It happens to you Any fighter.
After you weigh in, you cangain 10, 15 pounds, you can eat
an elephant and come back.
Yeah, exactly, it's yourperformance-wise, how you carry
(23:11):
yourself in your fight.
That, and also being on somekind of enhancement, that's the
cheating.
That's the cheating part of thething.
They really tested him.
He actually did.
He got on TikTok or whatever,saying that you know, I'm not a
cheater.
Um, I mean, ryan garcia saidthis I'm not a cheater, I never
cheat yeah, because you're acheater.
(23:32):
We definitely know hey, shutyour mouth, shut your mouth just
playing.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
But um.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
So what it is is like he, he comes out there but
there's literally studies andagain, this is what they do,
like they test yourself and ithappened in UFC too Like there's
people who fought one andwhatever, and they come back to
test the negative, positive fromsorry, positive of all these
things, and they have to takeaway that belt.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Like the Lance Armstrong.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, but the thing about it is, this is what's
crazy.
Because if you're, you know youtook some enhancement, even for
oxygen or whatever.
There's a system that is alwaystested.
It's going to be caught.
You're going to be caught someway.
Somehow it's going to bebrought back out.
And he still stands by this.
He's not cheating.
(24:19):
They're going to go, of course,going to go to a committee and
pretty much just like anything.
Why risk that?
If you this is your, your name,especially in boxing, because
boxing is literally your nameholds weight of going forward to
make big money, if you'recheating by doing that, you will
get tossed in like why would Igo against this cheater?
(24:40):
You know saying especially ryangarcia has been on, he was on
the thread anyways by that Causehe wasn't pulling numbers
before, can I?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
can I ask you a question real quick, um not to
cut you off, so I know in in insoccer football right, um,
what's his name?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Paul football.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
American football soccer.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
You started he was like I can't disrespect my
people.
No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
You know.
American listeners are here.
They're like football.
If you're in Rome, you act likethe Romans.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
So Paul Pogba, he used to play for Juventus, right
, and he got caught with I don'tknow taking a substance or
whatever.
He got banned for, I believe,four or five years.
That's what happened this time.
So now in football, right,right.
So in in boxing, what kind oflike?
What kind of punishment like Imean other than you know, taking
your title away from you, like,do they lose money?
Do they get banned for, like,an extended period of?
(25:26):
time not get booked anymore areyou trying to like what's the
punishment, like what's all ofall of it, all of it.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Oh yeah, it can be all of that, but politics
depends.
Remember they have canelo testpositive.
He claimed it was, uh, that badmexican beef, mexican beef,
whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
And speaking, he's about to fight this weekend too.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
They didn't do anything to him.
Sorry, they what like.
What was the punishment like?
Speaker 6 (25:49):
wasn't much anything.
I think they kept them out,maybe for a little bit, but
wasn't much.
So it really depends on yourstar power, who you are, all of
that yeah how far they really gowith it.
Some people get blasted and thensome people get the slap on the
wrist and then they're, they'reback.
So it's hard to know.
I think the question is herealso is that I don't know if it
was mandatory, right.
(26:10):
So sometimes the testing ismandatory and then you kind of
know, and then sometimes it'svoluntary this is voluntary,
wasn't this voluntary?
I think this is voluntary,which is another piece that
makes it kind of confusing, likeif you chose to be tested, then
what exactly did you take, orknowingly, or not.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Do we know the substance?
Do we know what substance hegot caught taking?
Speaker 6 (26:29):
yeah, they have a list of them.
There's at least three to fourof them.
Supposedly.
The first one I think one of usalluded to is one that's not
even really connected to thenormal ped stuff.
Yeah, and that's what doesn't,you know, make sense like that.
The first sample was like sowhy would you take it's banned,
but it's not say banned for thisreason, so why would you do
(26:49):
that?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
So it just creates confusion and actually I'm sorry
cut you off, but I did lookthat one up, that one.
I forget what it's called atthis point, but yeah, something
like that, but it's.
It's basically it helps withrehydration, so you.
So that's why he was taking it.
You looked at it.
When I looked at it, itbasically said it didn't help
(27:10):
for muscle strength enhancementor anything like that.
It just helped that you like.
Basically you didn't losemuscle while, I guess, you were
training or while you werecutting weight.
So that's why he got hit withit.
When he got hit with it,because you get tested.
If I'm correct, you get testedeven before the fight.
Yeah, before that fight you gettested a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
Right, there are a bunch of samples, and this is
another reason, for example,since we're going to talk about
how boxing was one of thequestions.
This is why Pacquiao sort ofhas an asterisk with some people
, because he refused testing andhis reasoning was because he
doesn't like needles, smart guy.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I mean shit.
I don't like needles.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
With tattoos.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I mean, there are other ways to make tattoos.
You don't have to do needles.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
But still, you know, when you say yourself you're a
professional fighter, you getyour face Devils advocate.
But you're afraid of a needle,so you're not doing that and
therefore now people arewondering, like so wait a minute
, how is it that you went from122 and you can knock out a guy
at 160 pounds?
Like how does that physicallyhappen?
Some people are kind of curiousabout it, so it's an asterisk.
(28:15):
Now what's going to happen withRyan?
It's going to be veryinteresting.
Why?
Because he's very popular, yeah.
So is he going to get a slap inthe wrist?
He's already called out Trump.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah, exactly you.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
You don't like me because you don't like Trump.
And I was with Trump because hewas trying to show Cody Cody
what the heck is it?
Huffington how to throw a hookand Cody's a clown.
So it's like oh, once you seeCody, you're going to see the
Trumpsters and the rest of them.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeah, Like after he won he was doing this like his,
his, I guess in front of Trumpand then like vote for Trump
2024.
And I was like, yeah, clown.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
He's selling this.
Yeah, he's selling this.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
He's selling it, but if this, this is going to mess
him up, if he actually is caught, Potentially, potentially, and
you know what you know we talkedabout last time.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Devin Haney's father, bill, has a little bit of a
hole, so he might end up makingsomething.
Now let's not pretend that,even though we have this
situation, that Ryan can't punchyeah, exactly.
And let's not pretend thatDevin Haney has an iron jaw,
right, linares, loma, all thesepeople actually hurt him,
(29:23):
stunned him, who are lighterweight and have less power than
Ryan.
So those are legitimate smashesto the face.
And guess what?
You did stupid stuff in orderto get punched in the face.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
No, no, that's true, but if it's enhanced by some
kind of, that's like, like yousaid, if I put a five pound
weight in my hand, regardless offive pounds, that's five pounds
with a powerful punch that youhave.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
That's what it's trying to figure out.
Right, we're trying to figureit out.
But if you have a five-poundweight in your hand and you
punch me in the face and youknock me out, guess what If I
have an eggshell jaw, that youcould have knocked me out with
your finger?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
now the question is so you think he had an eggshell
jaw?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
regardless, he's been hurt many times and saved so
the question is the first roundof effect.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Has he ever been knocked down in his first round?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
I have to look back in the fights but he's been
stumbling in his ring aftergetting punched in the face by a
single shot when the guy wasnot a knockout.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I'm not saying what you're saying is wrong, but I'm
saying like, if you look at thenumbers, it's kind of weird that
the first round that he has Imean a boxer who's a
professional to take the firstpunch, to be like what the hell,
and he gets staggered.
That's the thing about it.
They're trying to question,like he's not normally that kind
until later rounds.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Well you have to then say well, has Ryan knocked out
people first round or early?
No, he has, he has.
He has hurt people early, Notknocked out cold, but he's hurt
people early.
Yes, he has Body shot all drill.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
So we're saying that Ryan has the power.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
He has the power, haney didn't get knocked out
cold either.
No, he didn't, but he gotknocked down on the first.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
It was a clean shot.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
They called it.
It was a knockdown.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
As a non-boxer or as a non-box fan.
Following this, I do find itinteresting to hear about how
the ramifications aren't clearlyspelled out.
Some leagues will have acertain penalty for different
things, but the politics of itand who you are, obviously, what
your booking capacity is,that's big and important.
(31:23):
I remember Tyson damn near bitoff a dude's ear and that didn't
seem to really end him.
I mean, it hurt him probably,but he's still around.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Like I said, he's been in jail and he's popular
right now, yeah, so it takes alot.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Like A-Train said, it is a popularity vote.
I mean, again, it bringsnumbers, regardless of what it
is.
I mean I don't want to bring upthe Trump situation because
he's going through trial, he'sstill going to probably be the
president, because it's nottypical, hey, man, let's, let's
not speak negativity into theair, but I'm telling you have to
(31:56):
don't even don't even put thatsentence together again.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay whose man is this hey guess what?
Speaker 4 (32:02):
guess what you have to.
It's reality.
It's reality, I'm moving tobrazil with bruno.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I'm telling you i'm'm moving back to Nigeria.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Everybody says it, but who other Republican is
going to be him?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You mean a Democrat?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Yeah, I think I think at this point he's the
Republican unless he can getlocked up before.
Exactly so.
Like going forward, there's nothreat for him to be.
It's closer to 50-50 if it goesto Democrat right.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Aliens, if you're out there, just take them.
We don't want them, just takethem.
Do what you're probing, dowhatever you want.
Learn whatever you need.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Just take them.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
We don't want them.
Okay, alright, we're going togo there.
Don't shake your head, we'renot doing politics.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Bro, don't get me started.
We can, but.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
I refrain from it.
I'm not trying to let Ace cookon this one, not on this one.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I don't even want to cook on this one.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
We will talk about this later, but coming up is a
Canelo fight is also coming upthis weekend.
Right, right, adrian, I thinkAbsolutely I'll let you guys
sauce that out, but what?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
makes it interesting is that we're all about beefs.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Well, yeah, this is beef.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
If you could actually go and show a little bit of
Delahoya representing Mungia theopponent.
He has serious beef with Canelobecause Canelo's part of Golden
Boy.
So since he cut from him andbasically cut all of them, I
mean that's a lot of money thatgolden boy lost when canelo left
and basically their uh, what doyou call weigh-in?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
yeah, have you heard about that?
Speaker 5 (33:37):
it went completely bananas when you think that the
fighters would be against eachother.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Instead, they began dropping big bombs with each
other, like you know what.
So even delahoy had yes, I wasin rehab, yes, I did all these
things.
I had mental problems.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
But Golden Boy made you Respect my name.
He said respect my name, man.
They went personal he said yorespect my name.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Put some respect on it.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
And yo Canelo and his Mexicans.
He's like fuck you, you knowwhat's so interesting.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Someone said to me and made me laugh really loud.
He said you know what canelowhen you bring the mic to him?
He's spanish, he speaks spanish, he has only two words of
english.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Once he gets angry, he knows no spanish curse you,
you, you fuck you english, allenglish curse words.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
It was the like by the bitch, but you gotta think
that has to be a little bitstrategic, no seriously.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Seriously, you got to think about it, Because at that
time he could say all the cusswords he want and his
Spanish-speaking audience wouldnever hear him cuss.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's true.
You know what I'm saying.
Well, it's like that viralvideo of the two Indian guys and
one of them cuts the other guyoff in traffic.
And they're like fuck you, youbloody bastard, you fuck you
fuck you.
And they just the same insultback and forth.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah, they cut off, like different customers.
So that's how I think this isgoing to be kind of like and I
think, like you said, it mightbe a strategic way of promoting
this fight, because, again,nobody really knew about this
fight like that.
It wasn't promoted to be a goodbig fight for Canelo but no, it
is, it is.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
It's a bit for boxing heads.
It is a big fight.
Yeah for a couple of reasons.
One is Canelo Good, bad beef,not beef.
He lost to be of all.
Be of all is six feet tall.
He fought be of all.
At what weight was lightheavyweight right, can I know?
For some reason, I don't knowwhere you, how you went weight?
It was light heavyweight right,canelo.
For some reason, I don't knowhow you went from 154 to light
(35:33):
heavyweight right.
That's a hundred, and what isit?
A hundred and six, 175 pounds?
How do you go that far up?
Nobody does that.
But here's the thing.
Mungia doesn't look at it, butI've worked as he was one of my
opponents.
Manjia doesn't look at it, butI've worked as with.
He was one of my opponents backin the day.
I'll leave it at that.
(35:54):
Manjia is six feet tall.
He don't look it, but he's sixfeet tall.
So you imagine you're fightinga guy who probably, going back
to the other conversation onfight night might be a light
heavyweight when he steps inthere.
So you don't know what's goingto happen in on fight night.
Might be a light heavyweightwhen he steps in there.
So you don't know what's goingto happen in this fight With all
(36:14):
the skill set, you'll say toyourself you know what I know?
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Canelo's going to win because he does that and the
other he has good footwork andwhatever, but does he have
knockout power to knock a biggerguy?
Speaker 6 (36:22):
you're going to say when G has knocked out?
Guys, I didn't expect him toknock out because he doesn't
look as scary or as tough as heis, and just like some people
may have thought twice aboutB-Vol because he's so straight
up and down, no special effectstype of fighter, guess what?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
This dude is as big as him.
We ain't going to do nopredictions.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
We're not going to do anything, but I'm looking
forward to finding out who won.
Yeah, because y'all don't takeyour shots, that's crazy, that's
crazy.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Okay, that's crazy.
Alright, any hope, so IAnything else.
I think we're good for tonight.
I think I love thisconversation.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Any plans for this weekend, gentlemen?
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Can I?
Can I say something?
Absolutely yes, you may okay'dlike to put a big shout out to
our friend Francis Ngannou.
Oh yeah, His son is 15 monthsold and for those people who
know about kids or have kids orwhatever it is.
He has said basically what am.
I doing this for Losing thischild 18 months right 15.
(37:29):
He was like I child.
To him it was 18 months, 18months, right, 15.
15 months.
He was like I'm done, oh damn,15 months, like he may quit.
Because he was just likeeverything that I do is for my
future is now for A the future,but now the future is solidified
by having a child.
So you felt it when heresponded that way.
You're like man, I don't evenknow where this guy, because
when you think about it, here'sthe thing you were treated badly
(37:52):
by the UFC.
You found your own way.
You found a way to make money,even though you got knocked out
against Anthony Joshua.
You're now 20 million.
How many million dollars thatyou made in the last two fights?
Right, fury and Joshua, youhave a son.
You probably thought when thiskid was born, my life.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
Is now here.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Yeah, and all of a sudden this happens, so you know
he's crushed.
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
That's sad, bro.
It's sad.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Shout out to him, bro Micah Nolans, to his family.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
For real.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, damn.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
That's really rough.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, and you know, like I said, I don't know the
devil is working overtime thisperiod.
Imagine, like you said, andthis might just take away that
whole light, that whole fire inhim as far as his career is
concerned.
I think he actually said it.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
I think he actually said it in Twitter, Like I think
, why am I doing this?
Like this is, you might not seethe same Ngani again Like he
has no fire.
No, he has no like.
He's like done like he feelslike I shouldn't be doing this
thing because it's showing thatyou know something like that.
He said well, why.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I mean selfishly, because of course he's an
amazing athlete I want to seehim fight again Right Um compete
again and just fight whateverhe does, I want to see him again
Top level Um but at all thetime he needs, yes, oh yeah,
hopefully this is just a momentin time for him and, you know,
(39:12):
with the right support, and youknow he can, you know, find
himself and hopefully find thatthat light again and fire, but
again, yeah, if, if he it is,you know his call for him and
his family.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
So all right, yeah, and then as parents man, you
don't.
No parent ever wants to burytheir kid yeah, yeah, definitely
you know anybody else that's.
That's a huge one.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Our condolences to his family man, I'm good, y'all
good, I mean like I said,anything Dang we just going to
drop this bomb on us now.
That looks like anything forthis weekend.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
I mean not to maybe lighten it, but anything for
this weekend, for y'all, I wasgoing to hit the streets but
maybe I mean this dude over herewith a tank top on suns out,
guns out.
I'm in the gym for a reasonFace ass Made for the streets.
I'm made for the streets, allright.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
But yo, eagle, am I in the streets?
No, I'm not.
I'll let you know.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I'll let you know Anybody else I?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
know.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I mean, yeah, y'all know me, bro, daddy anything,
I'll be in the studio working onsome music, and then Bruno and
I we just had our.
I guess last week was fivemonths since we've actually been
together Five years actually.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Sorry, sorry, sorry, I was tripping, tripping.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Five years since we've been together.
So we're going to do a littleouting and just hang out on
Saturday and chill.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Happy anniversary, sir.
Congrats to you guys.
Man, Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
You going to New York ?
No, no, new York, he alwaysgoes to New York.
That's what he does on theweekends.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
We got a camp going so not this week.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, I might be in the studio too.
I think that's what it's callednow these days, this weekend,
this guy Afro beats.
I'm going to be cooking up somebeats, Afro guy.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Afro guy.
Let me hear it, man, I'll dropsome bars to it.
You know, Let me hear it.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Well, shout out to y'all.
Hopefully we do better nexttime.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Thanks you guys.
Peace, Peace Cheers.
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