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August 25, 2025 38 mins

On this episode of ACADEMY ANONYMOUS:

  • We recap our first ever Cannes experience!
  • We've seen big Oscar players: SENTIMENTAL VALUE; IT WAS JUST AN ACCIDENT; DIE MY LOVE; THE SECRET AGENT; NOUVELLE VAGUE; and more (THE MASTERMIND; THE PLAGUE; CHRONOLOGY OF WATER; SOUND OF FALLING; PILLION; YES!; THE HISTORY OF SOUND....); our thoughts!
  • We also went to the Tribeca Film Festival; our quick recap.
  • We have something brewing... A NEW WEBSITE!
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey guys, welcome back to Academy.
Anonymous, I'm Jules.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
And I'm your co-host, Joseph.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
And wow, it's been a long time.
I think the last time we madean episode was in early April,
right before.
Cannes and you know, guys, we'reso sorry that we've been MIA,
but we've actually had a verybusy few months.
We've been fortunate enough tohave a few exciting
opportunities arise for us and,you know, the bulk of our time

(00:41):
has been doing all of that.
We were able to go to theCannes Film Festival for the
first time ever, which wasfreaking incredible, A trip I'll
never forget.
We hope to be back again nextyear.
It was freaking amazing.
We also went to the RebeccaFilm Festival.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, did a few days there.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
That was really cool too.
That was our first time.
Rebecca Film Festival yeah, dida few days there.
That was really cool too, andthat was our first time at Dr
Rebecca as well.
Of course, we've made episodesof how we went to the Sundance
Film Festival.
That was really cool too.
So it's been a crazy year.
We've had a lot of newexperiences and down the line
we're going to have even morenew experiences.
So it's been an amazing,amazing few months, and that's

(01:24):
why we've been MIA.
But, as you all know, we'reabout to kick into high gear
with the Oscar season, becausethe festival barrage is about to
start and we're about to getright now, in a couple of days,
the Venice Film Festival, yeah,and then, shortly after that,
the Telluride Film Festival, andthen, shortly after that, the
Toronto Film Festival, and then,shortly after that, the

(01:44):
Telluride Film Festival, andthen, shortly after that, the
Toronto Film Festival and then,shortly after that, the New York
Film Festival.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, the big four.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Exactly so.
Lots and lots and lots going onright now, and you know, this
is actually the time when Oscarseason starts in proper.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, I mean it's kicking up again, right, I mean,
things were crazy in Cannes andthere was a lot of conversation
to be had about, you know, theaftermath of that festival.
But, certainly things were sortof sleeping a little bit for a
few months, but we're about toget very busy.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Right and yeah.
So Cannes was incredible, youguys.
It really felt like DisneyWorld for cinephiles, yeah, and
we got incredible opportunitiesthere.
It was just amazing.
And so let's see, just lookingat what Cannes films I was able
to watch, my favorite film ofthe festival was the Dardenne

(02:34):
Brothers' Young Mothers, whichwas just an incredible
experience.
It was the last film I saw atthe festival.
It was such a beautiful way toend that trip, that journey, and
I'm a huge fan of the Dardanbrothers and this film is no
exception, one of their greats.
It's just such a beautiful film, so beautifully made.

(02:56):
I can't wait to see it again.
I can't wait to you guys see itagain.
I think it will be going to theTelluride Film Festival.
They're usually very welcomedat that festival, so I expect it
to go there.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
It'll be interesting to see if that film maybe gets
selected from one of thecountries for international, the
international film race,possibly Belgium.
France is stacked this year, soI'm thinking maybe Belgium
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I saw Sound of Falling, the German film.
You know that had a lot ofpeople talking at the festival
on the ground.
You know we're going to trygiving you a very brief sort of
you know kind of experience ofwhat it was like to be on the
ground and talking to ourcolleagues and what the overall
impression was of some of thesefilms that we saw.
So that's a film that peopleconsistently kept talking about.

(03:42):
It's an incredible movie.
It's not for everyone.
It will be going to Toronto.
Mubi bought Mubi's going to bedistributing it and it's just
such an incredibly hauntingmovie.
I can't wait for you guys tosee that.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Probably a front runner for foreign film as well.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
You know I would love that, but again, I know it's
not going to be a film foreveryone.
It's very bold.
It's very bold.
It's having very provocativesort of conversation about
gender and about so many topicsand it's just a really haunting
film.
I haven't stopped thinkingabout that film since I saw it
At one point on the ground.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I think it was the favorite to maybe win one of the
top three awards.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yes, I knew that the minute I saw it it was going to
play somewhere.
I knew it was not going to walkout empty handed and I actually
predicted it would win the juryprize.
The film that won alongsideSound of Falling for the jury
prize was Surratt, and I cantell you that every single

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person we talked to in thatCannes Film Festival was crazy
about Surratt.
They loved Surratt, everybodyloved it.
Unfortunately, I was not ableto make it to the screening that
I needed to make because I hada rough night the night before.
But you know what?
It's one of my biggest regretsnot seeing what everyone was
saying.
It was an incredible film atthe Cannes Film Festival not
seeing it there.
You know you can't win them all, but that was a film that I can

(05:10):
tell you everyone was excitedabout.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
And everyone sort of shouted out the idea that you
have to see that on the bigscreen because the sound is just
amazing and the visuals aregreat.
And I think that film is fromSpain, right?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yes, yes yes, absolutely, and it's going to
Toronto Film Festival.
Neon picked it up.
Neon picked it up and it's alsomost likely going to be going
to the Telluride Film Festivalas well.
So if any of you get a chanceto see that, that is certainly a
film that should place at thetop of your list.
Based on all the reactions thatwe heard from Ken and, again, a

(05:45):
big regret for us that wedidn't get to see that Um, you
know, I was able to see Die myLove by Lynne Ramsey, which I
loved, but I will say that I wasfortunate enough to see it
twice and the first time I had alittle bit more of a mixed
reaction.
The second time was just such anincredibly beautiful experience
.
Um, I loved it, but I will saythat on the ground it was

(06:08):
unanimously praised by critics,which is no surprise.
But I will say that on theground, the response was very
mixed and once you see the filmyou can understand why linear,
slightly experimental, in someways very artistic, you know,

(06:29):
with Lin-Manuel's unmistakablesort of gaze.
It's a very powerful film.
It's very compelling, verybeautifully done.
Jennifer Lawrence is great inthat movie, but I will say that
people felt, you know, at adistance from it.
You know it was something thatwasn't embraced by most people.
I would say I was verysurprised Well, I shouldn't say
surprised, but it was verypolarized experience amongst the

(06:53):
sea of colleagues with which wesaw the film.
So that was interesting.
That was an interestingexperience.
I also got the opportunity tosee Sentimental Value, which is
a film that everyone's talkingabout right now with regard to,
you know, the awards race.
It was a really beautifulexperience to be able to see
that film in Cannes, one of thefilms I saw towards the end of

(07:16):
my festival time and on theground.
I will say that you know, itwas a very rapturous response.
Everyone that I spoke to lovedit, and I will say that I think
most people were predicting thatfilm to be the winner of the
Palme d'Or Joseph, and I thoughtdifferently.
We'll get to that in a minute,but it's a very powerful film.

(07:37):
We're big fans of Joaquin TrierReally gorgeous performances.
I think Renata Rheinsveig inthis film is just incredible.
Um, I would say she evenoutdoes her performance in Worst
Person in the World, which is aperformance in a movie that
we're both very big fans of aswell.
That's saying something Right,and she's so beautiful in this

(07:58):
movie, um, and I will say youknow, it was very clear to see
that this film was going tofactor in into the awards race.
It's certainly going to get aneye for Best Picture.
It will certainly get nominatedfor its acting.
Renata Reinsve is a shoe-in,stellan Skarsgård is a shoe-in,
elle Fanning is a shoe-in.
I paused a little bit withIngrid.
I think she has a very goodchance Again.

(08:20):
A quartet of really beautifulperformances all around.
I think strongest performancein my opinion is renato
rynesville, um and inga.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I think you mean inga .
Yeah, inga, I'm sorry, Ithought you said ingrid.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Sorry, no inga and um uh, but a quartet of really
beautiful performances they'reall gonna factor in.
It will certainly at least havethree acting nominations.
Um walking cheer uh willcertainly be nominated.
He'll be nominated for ascreenplay, so it's a big Oscar
player.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
It's an early favorite in a lot of categories.
Right it was an early favorite.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
It's still pretty high in people's perception of
how well you know overall.
But that was another beautifulfilm I saw.
I saw Pileon with AlexanderSkarsgård.
I freaking loved it it I cannotwait to see it again.
I had a blast watching it.
It was so freaking good that'sUncertain Regard.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I think right.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Uncertain in the Uncertain Regard section um
Joseph, and I loved NadavLapid's uh recent film, yes,
which just got acquired.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Which went to Directors Fortnite.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Exactly Directors Fortnite which we?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
thought was a weird, weird choice.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, and you know that was.
You know some people talkedabout that.
Yeah, that it was a film thatcould have easily played in
competition and done really well.
We thought in competition andwon some awards.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
There was some commentary.
There was some commentary onthe ground.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
And it was certainly a controversial sort of
screening coming in, but it wasan incredible film, One of our
favorites.
We saw Drunken Noodles, which Ithink played part of the acid
section.
Yeah, I love that.
I love Drunken Noodles.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
That was a beautiful film.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I loved Harris Dickinson's debut film Urchin,
which played in Uncertain Regard.
It is so good, with anincredible lead performance a
lot of people talked about it,yes, and I just recently got
acquired and supposedly it'sgonna have a winter release.
If that were to happen, expectpeople to be talking about that

(10:22):
performance and this movie.
It is so good.
I was so proud of harrisdickinson.
I don't know him personally,but I was proud as a fan of the
uh talent that I saw on thescreen and I think most of you
will be as well you hope that hecontinues to to direct films
absolutely, um, also in theuncertain regards section.

(10:43):
Regards section was theMysterious Case of the Flamingo.
I think it won the main prizeof the Uncertain Regards section
.
It was a beautiful film.
I loved it.
Readland was a film that playedon, I believe, critics Week,
which I loved as well.
We were fortunate enough to seethe Mastermind by Kelly
Reichardt.
We're huge Kelly Reichardt fans.
That was a great experience tohave In competition.

(11:05):
Yeah, yeah, in competition.
That was an amazing experience.
We really loved the movie.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
And he was there because he had two movies Josh
O'Connor but he did not show upto the first one, which people
were kind of heaved about.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
but he did show up to the Mastermind able to see
joshua carter at the premiereand you know we were able to
have really some cool celebritysightings, which was just
freaking awesome.
Um, I was in the room with thedie my love premiere.
That was so cool.
Um, I saw a film that starredum vicky creeps, love me tender.
Very beautiful film as well,the french film wild foxes.

(11:41):
Um, which I believe won itssection as well, a major prize
in the director's fortnightsection, as Joseph was saying.
I saw the History of Sound withPaul Mesco and Josh O'Connor.
I saw Romeria, which was aSpanish film in competition.

(12:06):
We also got to see WesAnderson's film, the Phoenician
Scheme, which was really cool tosee in that huge venue.
That was an amazing experience.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I love that film.
By the way, that was one of myfavorite films.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
And I was able to see Kristen Stewart's debut film,
the Chronology of Water.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Which was packed.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yes, there were three very talked about debut films
Harris Dickinson, kristenStewart and Scarlett Johansson.
The best one was, in my opinion, harris Dickinson.
Second, I would say, wasKristen Stewart.
There's some very bold choicesin that film, the Chronology of
Water.
I didn't love it, but there'scertainly a bold choices in in
that film, the chronology ofwater.
I didn't love it but there'scertainly a lot of strengths to

(12:47):
it.
Um I saw left-handed girl whichum sean baker co-wrote with his
collaborator, um his editoryeah, I'm sorry.
Yeah, his editor.
Yeah, um, we saw that.
We saw enzo uh, which was afilm that was in the director's
fortnight.
Um, we saw juliette decarnell's new film, alpha oh boy

(13:08):
, oh boy.
A lot of people talking aboutthat, yeah people, people
certainly had their thoughts Iliked it I liked it, but you
know, I guess most people weremore mixed on it.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I, I liked it a lot of thoughts on the ground about
that right um.
I was able to see eddington umwhich was yeah, yeah, which is
the line, was nuts for that?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
yeah, the line was freaking and you guys would not
believe the line for that film.
Um and uh, you know it was afilm that certainly people
talked about quite a bit, andthen I also had a very polarized
reaction.
The film has already come out,so you guys already know the
sort of polarized reactions thatthe film has had.
Um, I won't.
I think it's maybe the weakestariast film that I've seen.
Possibly, I would say that inmy opinion.

(13:46):
But it was really cool to seeit there at the festival.
I even got to meet Ari Aster.
That was really cool.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
He actually went to a bunch of films.
A lot of people were telling usyeah, he just ran into Ari
Aster because he just happenedto be sitting like two rows in
front of me for this other film.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Right.
We both saw Nouveau Vague, uhby uh, the great Richard
Linklater.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I was a little iffy on it myself.
I was shocked when I saw thatQuentin Tarantino went, though I
was like what is Tarantinodoing here?
But I think yeah yeah and uh.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I also saw the new film, the second film by
Michelangelo Covino, splitsvilleum, which is about to come out
right now, any day now.
I loved his first film, theClimb.
I thought it was freaking great.
I was a little bit more iffy onSplitsville personally, but I
will say that I had a veryenthusiastic reaction in the
room.
Michelangelo Covino was there,dakota Johnson was there.

(14:42):
It was really cool, but for mea little bit more mixed.
I saw another film in thedirector's Fortnite section
called Her Will Be Done.
We both saw an Italian film,ferrari that was a competition
which might have been, I think,the weakest film in competition
that we saw.
I think.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
I didn't like it too much.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, I wasn't crazy about it.
I was very not crazy aboutScott Johansson's Eleanor the
Great, which just had a trailer.
A few weeks ago, sony Pictureswas already going to release it.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
That's my girl too.
Yeah, I'll watch anything withJune.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Squibb.
I love June Squibb, butunfortunately it's the weakest
of the debuts that I saw.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
They should have invited Thelma, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, and I think the reaction on the ground was kind
of muted as well.
I would have loved you know inthe year that it's sort of
shaping out to be with astronger project.
I really believe that JuneSquibb would have been a major
factor as potentially being ableto, you know, garner a second
nomination.
She's a wonderful actress.

(15:44):
She only has a one Oscarnomination.
She, I think, just turned, Ithink, 95 years old 96, I think
yeah, and so well.
How incredible would it havebeen to see her get nominated
again.
But the film is just not strongenough.
I got to disagree with you,there, I almost wish that Thelma
had come out this year, becauseI think she would have had a
good shot of squeezing in.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
If Thelma had been directed in 2017, excuse me, in
2023 by Scarlett Johansson, shewould have had a better shot.
Being directed by Scarlett isgoing to raise the profile of
the movie and because the bestactress lineup is a dearth as
far as, as far as I'm concerned,as far as I can see, I would
say do not sleep on June Squibb.

(16:26):
I just think she's that special.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, again, I just think it's not strong enough.
But we'll see.
And then I think the weakestfilm I saw was a film, a French
film, called Dalloway I thinknow it's called the Residence.
I did not enjoy that we wereable to see that in an
incredible venue and it was notgood.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
More commentary, more commentary on the ground on
that film.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
It was a midnight screening, you know, I think
most people weren't crazy aboutit, but I think that's a rough
sketch of the films that I saw.
Were you know what about you?
What about you, Joseph?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I enjoyed quite a few of those as well.
Let's see, I really loved Case137, which early on and, uh,
people enjoyed it.
Uh, your procedural film, butit's really really well done.
Great performance on that right.
Um, I loved the secret agent.
I think the secret agent was myfavorite film.
As soon as I saw that film, Iwas like I don't care what

(17:21):
anyone is saying aboutsentimental value.
I think this is the moviethat's going to win the palm
dior.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I saw that.
I saw that as well.
Secret Agent.
Yes, it was excellent.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
It's an amazing film.
I'm not surprised at all thatNeon bought it.
I almost worry that had adistributor bought it who maybe
can focus a little bit more juston that movie.
Its future is so bright interms of you know when it's
released in the US and what kindof reception it's going to have

(17:49):
from critics groups and theawards bodies.
So that was a wonderful filmand I think we'll be hearing a
lot about it.
I saw the Little Sister, whichended up winning Best Actress.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I was surprised because I think most people
thought that Jennifer Lawrencewas going to win.
It would have been a nice winfor her Again, a great
performance.
But yeah, the little sisterpool prevailed.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I kind of felt that J-Law would not be getting best
actress, because she's J-Law.
It's a very naturalisticperformance in the Little Sister
.
I think she did a wonderful joband I actually saw her at the
airport on my way out.
She seems like a reallywonderful person.
I loved Two Prosecutors byLuznica, but then again, I love
Luznica but it played early onand then I think a lot of people

(18:36):
some people complained that itwas a little slow and boring,
but I was surprised by how manypeople I talked to who really
loved how sort of austere thefilm is.
It's an amazing film.
Film is um, it's an amazingfilm.
Uh, I think it will havepossibly a shot at cracking the
the five for foreign film.
Um, I was kind of disappointedthat the actor didn't win best
actor um, because he's justoutstanding in that piece, just

(19:00):
outstanding um and a lot ofpeople talked about that movie
two prosecutors.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
um, it played early on.
I think it might have evenplayed the first day, and so I
think a lot of people had achance to screen that film.
And there were a lot of peopletalked about that movie Two
Prosecutors.
It played early on.
I think it might have evenplayed the first day, and so I
think a lot of people had achance to screen that film and
there were a lot of people thatwere again saying it was
brilliant, amazing, amasterpiece, and then other
people saying it was just tooslow, too boring for me.
We know this filmmaker.
He's not for everyone but he'sa very strong filmmaker.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
So that was also like Die my Love, an interesting
sort of polarized reaction, atleast on the ground.
But it's going to NYFF.
Oh, I'm so happy about that.
And then I did get a chance tosee the Palme d'Or winner.
It was just an accident.
And I mean, what can you sayabout Panahi?
Panahi is just a brilliantfilmmaker.
It's an absolutely wonderfulfilm.
Neon at the end ended up buyingit.
I mean, I think think neonspends the entire festival on
the phone just trying tohandicap who's gonna win.
And I this is honestly I thinkthat they went and they picked

(19:51):
up as many titles as they couldfrom that official competition
that were not spoken for to youknow, because they really want
to keep their little streak ofyeah, you know I bought this
film and it won the palm, diorand whatever.
I think that's important to them, but it's absolutely insane.
But the film is wonderful, likeall his films.
But I will say that and maybewe'll talk about it as the race

(20:13):
progresses.
Like any Panahi film, it's notthe typical project that gets
singled out by the Academy.
All his films are brilliant butthere's a reason why they don't
have any nominations thus far.
Had any of his previous filmswon the Palme d'Or, you could
make the argument that makesthem automatic Best Picture
nominees.
Or you can make the argumentthat because of the type of

(20:36):
filmmaker he is, they miss.
But anyway, it's a brilliantfilm and the Palme d'Or
certainly has raised its profileand they're finally working
with Neon no Bears, I think,worked with janice.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Um, that was another brilliant film.
Um, yeah, and, and on that note, I'll just say that you know,
as the festival was winding down, you and I, you know, were very
much predicting that jafarpanahi was going to prevail and
it wasn't going to besentimental value that won the
palm d'or, but it was actuallygoing to be.
It was just won the palm d'or,but it was actually going to be.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
It was just an accident yeah, I kind of felt
like the you know again thej-law of it all.
You know, can they really givesentimental value the big win?
A lot of people were talkingabout it, but I thought it just
it doesn't make sense.
You want to.
You want to pick something alittle less predictable, I would
say, and maybe possibly alittle bit more timely maybe On

(21:30):
the uncertain regards section Isaw a lot of interesting stuff I
loved.
Once Upon a Time in Gaza.
I saw Aisha Can't Fly Away,which was a really tough sit.
But it's interesting when it'strying to explore heads or tails
with John C Reilly like sort ofin a cameo got picked up
recently.
But I like those filmmakers,sort of like a spaghetti western
kind of italian romance thing,a lot like beautifully shot, um.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I saw a pale view of hills, um, and which is going to
oh really, yeah, and a specialpresentation really, um, it's
kind of it was a.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I was a little disappointed by it, but I love
the novelist on whose work it'sbased.
Let's see, I saw the Plaguefrom Uncertain Regard and no one
has, I think, seen or heard toomuch of this, but that's an
amazing film.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I had tickets to it but I had a scheduling conflict
so I to miss it.
But you know I'm kicking myselffor it.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, I think I told you that, like, of all the films
that I saw that you did not geta chance to see, I think that's
the one that you would have hadpossibly the strongest feelings
for, um, and I also think it'sthe one that could find a real
crossover appeal, uh, with USaudiences.
Um, it's, it's a brilliant film.
Uh, I hope it finds an audience.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
It just got acquired, didn't it by, I think?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
IOC, which makes sense for it.
But I will say that it's.
I will say that it could havegotten a higher profile
distributor and I'm curious tosee what kind of success it has.
Apparently, charlie XCX reallyliked it.
I think she was there for it.
On Critics Week I saw Adam'sInterest, which was brilliant.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I loved her first film.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, her first film actually was Playground and made
the shortlist for a foreignfilm that year, I think 2022.
Um, the actress is brilliant.
Uh, it's the same actress fromcase 137.
Uh, she's absolutely incredibleand and the actress from
happening that's right, and theactress from happening, and
they're both just two brilliantactors, um great piece.

(23:34):
And that filmmaker I think ishas such a promising future.
I can't wait to see her nextfilm, 100% yeah, director's
Fortnite.
I was able to see Death DoesNot Exist, which was an animated
film, and there were so manyamazing animated films this year
.
I couldn't see them all, but Idid get a chance to see this one
.
It was interesting.
Everyone was talking about Arco, for example.

(23:55):
I didn't make it because of ascheduling conflict.
I saw, yes, as you said, enzoMirrors.
Number three, christian Petzold.
This is his first time atCannes and I really liked that
film too he's a wonderfulfilmmaker one of our favorites
yeah, he's absolutely brilliant.
I was kind of surprised thatthat was a director's fortnight
film and not in one of thebigger sections, because he's

(24:16):
you know he's made these filmsthat have done really well, for
example in in Berlin.
So I saw Lucky Lou, which wasgreat, and I saw the President's
Cake, which was picked up afterthe festival and it won.
It won an award, I think in itssection and it won the Camerador
, which is, I think, for thedebut film, and I think that

(24:37):
that's another film that I wouldsort of peg as a favorite for
uh submission to foreign filmand possibly advancing at least
to that second round and Sonypicks classics.
I think is going to release thatwhich is yeah, which is why I
think that it really has areally bright future.
Um, and then, uh, I did seeMagellan.
Um, which is not going to befor everyone, but it's

(24:57):
beautifully shot.
Um, galagos Gilbernal-Nell isin it, a very long film if
you're familiar with thefilmmaker, love Diaz, and I was
a little bit surprised that hewould take on something of that
scope, but it's a very, verygood film if you're a fan of his
.
It's going to on YFF as well,exactly, and then, most recently
, I did get a chance to seeHoney Don't.
And so if you haven't seenHoney Don't, honey Do I mean

(25:19):
it's.
Aubrey Plaza and MargaretQualley, I mean Charlie Day.
So it's, it's, it's a fun nightout.
So that's my pitch to go seeAubrey Plaza this week.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
And you had great seats for that one too, oh my
gosh.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I had amazing seats and I was able to see Margaret
Qualley and Aubrey Plaza andCharlie Day and Charlie Day just
looks so beautiful.
Um, it was.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
It was a great, great festival yeah, you know, it was
a experience that we'll neverforget.
Um, it was amazing.
We felt so lucky to just be inthe room and to be able to be
there and present and meet somany people and see so many
filmmakers that we admire andappreciate and take pictures
with them when we could and wesaw, express our gratitude yeah,

(26:02):
we could.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
We actually saw the team from.
Uh, just, we just happened tobe right place, right time.
We were able to see the teamfrom sentimental value.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
After their award, after their awards, yeah al
fanning is gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Renataata.
Joaquin Sons of Skarsgård is sotall.
We got to see Kleber and someof his cast members when he won
Best Director.
Yeah, I'm trying to think.
Oh, you know, people loved thatmovie from Begun and I think
that was my biggest regret.
I had tickets for it.

(26:36):
It was so early, but the nightbefore I didn't get into like
four in the morning.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
So that's the other thing about Cannes you will get
no sleep.
We got literally four hours ofsleep every single day that we
were there.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I was chugging down espressos, and even then it gets
tough.
It is so difficult to stayawake.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's so tough.
It's part of the experience,yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I bet everyone was under the same sort of hangover
and we were all like you know,comfort each other.
It was so freaking cool.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that was my biggestregret that I missed began film.
They said it was brilliant.
He won an award for it.
I saw him pick it up.
It was great, and I thinkthat's go to Telluride.
I think it's even going to NYFF.
Oh wow, that's great.
I mean I really love Began andI'm trying not to read anything

(27:23):
about the movie because I just Iwant to go in there and doing
nothing about it and then, well,let's, should we talk about the
winners for a second?
I mean, we kind of called that.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Thunder.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Valley was not going to be able to win.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
We called that it was going to be.
It was just.
It was just an accident.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It was, I really thought the secret agent could
pull it out.
And then when I saw that secretagent won two awards, I
immediately told you that's theonly excuse you can have for not
giving secret agent the Palmed'Or is you're going to give it
two awards.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I told you when I saw it that Wagner Mora was going
to win Best Actor and I knew hewas going to win.
It's a beautiful performancefrom Wagner.
I hope it gets Oscar attention.
Neon certainly has an actorplay with him and I think he's
going to make it all the way.
I mean, that's just a hunchthat I have.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
My issue with that was I thought he had a good
chance, but the two prosecutorsactor was so brilliant.
I really thought can theyreally not get into this actor?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
actor was so brilliant.
I really thought can they, canthey really not get into this
actor?
Yeah, well, wagner, so great.
It was so incredible in that,and so I knew the minute I saw
it chalk it up, he's going towin best actor at the at the
camp film festival um and he didyeah, um, and you're right.
Uh, you know, the secret agentdid very well.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
It also won director yeah um and sound of falling won
a big award sound of fallingand Sarad tied with the jury
prize, and early on in thefestival everyone was talking
about both those titles, so itwas really no surprise that they
won something.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
They weren't going to go away with nothing.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, exactly, even Sarad.
Sometimes I found myselfdebating like what could it win
with all these bigger titlesaround it?
But they found room for itbecause you know those first
three or four days, everyonekept talking about those two
films, right and um, uh, thelittle sister surprise, little
sister surprise.
Even though, again, I thoughtthe naturalistic performance of

(29:08):
that and sort of you know, beingable to include egypt as a
winner and, you know, maybewanting to avoid the paparazzi
of having jennifer lawrence win,I thought that she would
possibly be the favorite right.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Um, I will say again, jennifer lawrence is great in
her movie, absolutely great.
I think it might be her bestperformance yet.
Um, and the Darden brothers wona screenplay for my favorite
film, uh, the young mother'shome, uh, so I was very happy to
see that as well.
So I think it was a good groupof winners.
It was cool.
Yeah, I, I think everyone waspleased, I agree.
And then, just really quick, wewere also able to go to Tribeca

(29:41):
.
Yeah, we saw several films.
Yeah, well, in total, I thinkyou and I saw like 30 films each
for Cannes, which is crazy, andin Tribeca I think we saw like
20 films each.
Yeah, so we saw a good varietyof films.
I'm not sure that I would say Isaw anything that I think would
factor in into the awards race.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
You know what?
It's funny because it'scertainly a more sort of
festival that highlights up andcoming filmmakers and
independent films and there's alot of them that are a lot of
fun and I hope you know I can'twait to see the second films or
the following films from theseindividuals.
But I actually did see sometitles that I think are going to
factor in just in lessprominent races.

(30:21):
So you know, for example, thefestival premiered, uh, this
documentary called nachas um andit's absolutely wonderful and
brilliant and I would be verysurprised if it doesn't get
highlighted throughout the endof the year as one of the best
documentaries, um, and I reallydo think it can make that
shortlist and it's sort of thisreally provocative take on sort

(30:43):
of confederacy culture of thesouth.
It's.
It's really fascinating what'sit called?
um, it's called nachos um, and Iwas able to attend a q a with
the filmmaker, and so, forexample, more uh, low-key races
or less marquee races, I think,is where you'll find bigger
dance.
I saw great short films and Ireally think that there's going

(31:03):
to be a bunch of short filmsthat are going to contend from
this particular festival.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Right, I think I saw.
I think my favorite film was aMexican film that I saw called
12 Moons, which is the, I think,debut.
I think of the wife of theMexican filmmaker that we really
like, michelle Franco, michelleFranco, I think, debut.
I think of the wife of theMexican filmmaker that we really
like.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Michelle Franco.
Michelle Franco, I think hername is Victoria Franco, and I
think it is her debut.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yes, victoria Franco, and that was a really
compelling film.
It was beautifully shot andjust really strong at the debut.
I think that was my favorite.
I also liked a film called whatMarie mariel knew, which I
think went to venice last year.
I think.
Um, one of the sections invenice, I believe or no, berlin,
I should say went to berlinthis year and um, I saw that and

(31:49):
I like that quite a bit as well.
It was kind of very yorgos-y,um, um.
So that was cool.
I saw a film called Inside withGuy Pearce, which I liked.
I saw the Rose Byrne filmcalled Toe, which hasn't been
acquired yet, but it'sinteresting talking about Rose
Byrne because she's got a bigmovie coming out this year that

(32:10):
we talked about.
If I had Legs I'd Kick you.
That we saw at Sundance.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, and I was able to see Nick Offerman in the film
Sovereign, which he'sabsolutely brilliant in, but I
don't think a big enoughdistributor picked it up.
But he's right, he's great init and and really out of
character, and I think it'sactually available now if anyone
wants to check it out.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Um and I saw.
I saw the lucy lu vehiclecalled rose me yes, which is
based on a real life story, avery tragic story.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Um, I think that's one of the titles that could
angle awards inclusion,especially considering again
just what I'm perceiving as adearth and best actress.
But no one has picked the movieyet, right?
No?

Speaker 1 (32:53):
one has bought the film and I'm not so surprised by
that.
I wasn't crazy about the filmpersonally, Lucy Liu.
I think the goal is possibly toposition the film for awards
and to place Lucy Liu inconsideration for Best Actress,
but again, the film hasn't beenbought.
I don't think it's thestrongest film.

(33:14):
I think there's a lot of weakspots to it.
We did see Lucy Liu a couple oftimes in the festival and yeah,
so I'm not that surprised andshe will get out there.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
She will get out there and keep doing this film.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Right.
Locarno just, I think,recognized her, made a tribute
to her, I believe, for her andher work.
I believe Rosemead went toLocarno recently, but yeah, it
hasn't been bought by the us andagain, I I'm not so surprised.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I think it's a little bit of a weak film for me
personally I honestly do thinkthat this film again just the
way best actress is shaping up.
You cannot sleep on lucy lu ifshe gets a good distributor, and
you cannot sleep on june squibb.
That's just the way I'm seeingit play out.
Um, I definitely think that,for example, um, I want to shout
out a couple of really greatshort films that I think are

(34:04):
going to show up at the end.
You know, on the animated front, I want to shout out Playing
God, the Quinta's Ghost and SnowBear as three potential short
films that could find their way,you know, in the final short
list of, I think, 10 or 15 films.
Very well done, but I thinkthey're also going to play

(34:25):
really well to Academy members.
And then, on the narrative side,there was this brilliant short
film called the Singers, which Iwould be shocked if it does not
make that short list.
This is an American short filmfrom the US.
And then I would also point outBaby Blues, which you got a
chance to see, and I thoughtthat was really well done and I

(34:45):
think that could find its wayinto a shortlist, as well as the
other two international shortfilms.
One of them is called LittleMonsters and it's really funny,
actually a very uniqueperspective, and the other one
is Beyond Silence, which has todo with sort of sexual
harassment, and I think thatthey're both very, very timely,

(35:08):
very well done, and I'm going tohave that broad appeal to
possibly place in the liveaction shortlist, production
shortlist.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Right, Um, I did see a couple of little short films
that were very, very well doneas well.
Um, well, you know, that's sortof a quick recap of two
festivals that we were able toattend, uh, during this hiatus.
Um, like I said, you know weapologize.
It's been a while.
We're glad to be back.
Um, sorry for being MIA.

(35:37):
Uh, we've just had some reallyincredible experiences and we
feel very grateful.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Right.
And now we're at that point,though, where we can enjoy the
rest of the Oscar race witheverybody, and, like you said,
things are about to get really,really crazy, interesting,
mind-blowing.
Possibly there are some filmsthat are being talked about that
I just just I don't understand,um, so I cannot wait to see

(36:03):
what happens.
And then, you know, we're alsowe.
You know we're about to enterthe fall.
We're going to get new filmsfrom paul thomas anderson, which
isn't going to any festivalthat's coming out soon, right,
um, so not just that, but it'sgoing to be a very fun september
, um, between festivals and newreleases, and you, you know, I
hope that along the way, we cansprinkle in some conversation
about, you know, where we standafter the summer, because

(36:25):
there's a film called Weaponsout there right now, and people
are going a little crazy over it.
And we got new trailers.
Got trailers for Hedda, gottrailers for a new Kiss of
Spider-Woman trailer, got atrailer for.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Anemone.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Anemoneone came out first.
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
So a lot of great interesting stuff to talk about
coming out right now right andum, I'll also say that, uh,
joseph and I have been workingon something special.
We are creating an officialwebsite, uh, for this uh venture
into awards obsession.
Yeah, it's going to be called.
Should we reveal the name yet,or no?
Sure, yeah, it's going to becalled Frames and Flickr, and

(37:09):
we're in the final stages ofgetting everything ready to have
the first version of thewebsite up.
Yeah, so it will be up any daynow.
If you're hearing this early onwhen we post it, it might be up
.
If you're hearing this early onwhen we posted, it might be up.
If you're hearing it a few daysafter we posted, it might
definitely be up by then.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Right, but we will let you know over our socials
and, yeah, hopefully we'lllaunch.
I think our goal is to launchbefore the start of Venice.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yes, which is right now.
It's going to start onWednesday, so expect any day now
for this website to be up, andwe look forward to being able to
interact with all of you viathe website.
Please check it out.
Yeah, it'll be fun.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
We'll have our episodes on there, but we'll
also do predictions and reviewsand think pieces on the race and
little tidbits of history andthings like that patterns.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
All right, and that's it for this episode of Academy
Anonymous.
It's been great to reconnectagain.
I'm Jules.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
And I'm Joseph, and we're signing off till next time
.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
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