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September 18, 2025 • 86 mins

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Fitz Cahall—founder of The Dirtbag Diaries and co-founder of Duct Tape Then Beer—joins me to trace a life built around curiosity, craft, and the wild. We get into the nomadic childhood that pushed him outdoors, the dog-mauling that forged resilience, discovering climbing in Seattle, and the early podcasting leap that turned unsold magazine stories into a movement. We talk States of Adventure (DK), how to choose stories that reflect a lifetime outdoors, making inclusive adventure culture, and the 50-day Sierra traverse with Becca that reset his compass. We also explore creative stamina, running a mission-driven studio, and building family identity through shared time outside—plus Alex Honnold, Climbing Gold, and where audio can still surprise us.

What you’ll learn

  • How childhood instability became a foundation for autonomy, authenticity, and adventure
  • The moment podcasting “clicked” and scaled from 30 friends to thousands overnight
  • Anatomy of States of Adventure: selecting 30 stories that mirror a life lived outside
  • Why inclusive, everyday adventures expand the ecosystem (burro racing, rollerblading Iowa, etc.)
  • Sustaining creative passion for 18 years without burning out
  • Designing a family life that keeps mountains and forests in the calendar

Memorable threads

  • The power of medium choice: audio stories at the length they need
  • Craft over clout: playful branding as a filter for the right partners
  • Lessons from a stormy, illness-riddled, unforgettable Sierra crossing
  • Curiosity as a daily practice—for interviews, parenting, and purposeful work

Resources & links mentioned

  • The Dirtbag Diaries — https://www.dirtbagdiaries.com
  • Duct Tape Then Beer — https://www.ducttapethenbeer.com
  • States of Adventure (DK) — https://www.dk.com
  • National Geographic — https://www.nationalgeographic.com
  • This American Life — https://www.thisamericanlife.org
  • Climbing Gold (with Alex Honnold) — https://www.climbinggold.com
  • Alex Honnold — https://www.alexhonnold.com
  • Grand Canyon (NPS) — https://www.nps.gov/grca
  • Yosemite (NPS) — https://www.nps.gov/yose
  • RAGBRAI (Iowa cross-state ride) — https://www.ragbrai.com
  • Pack Burro Racing — https://www.packburroracing.org
    Episode takeaway

Adventure—as practice and culture—builds resilient creativity, community, and meaning when we protect curiosity and time outside.

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