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August 18, 2025 • 35 mins

What happens when you surrender control of your Disney day to the spin of a wheel? Join us as we experiment with Theme Park Roulette: Epcot Edition, letting chance dictate everything from attraction choices to dining options. What do you do when some of the biggest bangers in the park aren't available? What choices would you make?

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Alicea (00:25):
Hello everyone, I'm Alicea.

Nathan (00:26):
And I'm Nathan

Alicea (00:27):
Welcome to this week's episode of Adventures and
Mousecapades.

Nathan (00:31):
This week we're going to talk about a little bit of
cultural whiplash that we havejust undergone.

Alicea (00:37):
Oh yeah

Nathan (00:38):
Last weekend we saw the Backstreet Boys play at the S
phere in Las Vegas.

Alicea (00:44):
That was awesome.

Nathan (00:46):
That was an amazing show .

Alicea (00:47):
Yes

Nathan (00:49):
Last night we saw Weird Al play a Backstreet Boys parody
live at the White RiverAmphitheater here in the Seattle
area.
Also amazing, but the completeopposite end of the spectrum.

Alicea (01:02):
Complete opposite.
Not just that song, it was a,it was a full concert.

Nathan (01:05):
yes, yeah, it was so much fun last night.

Alicea (01:09):
It was a lot of fun.

Nathan (01:11):
It was a very late night we had a meet and greet.
It was after the show.
No joke, we didn't get homeuntil like 2 15 in the morning.

Alicea (01:21):
yeah, and this was all four of us.
The kids were with us too.

Nathan (01:24):
Yes

Alicea (01:24):
Lots of fun.

Nathan (01:26):
Which is ironic because I think the latest we were out
in Vegas was like one.

Alicea (01:32):
Yeah, we didn't have to travel that far either.

Nathan (01:36):
True, it took us an hour to get home because there was a
major highway that was closedfor the weekend.
So thanks, Seattle.
Anyhow.

Alicea (01:46):
What are we talking about this week, Nathan?

Nathan (01:54):
Well, what we're doing this week is another episode of
Theme Park Roulette.
This time it's Epcot edition.
So Alicea is going to spin thewheel and we're going to pick
all sorts of stuff.
We're going to pick.
Basically, we're going to letthe wheel choose our day and
figure out what we have to go do.

Alicea (02:12):
Yeah

Nathan (02:14):
And yeah, let's see how this thing works.

Alicea (02:16):
All right, so we already know the park.
It's Epcot, so now we're goingto find out what type of wait
time we are going to have.

Nathan (02:25):
Oh God

Alicea (02:26):
So like standby lightning lane, those are the
options.

Nathan (02:30):
Okay, no whammies, no whammies.
VIP tour.
Let's go.

Alicea (02:36):
Oh, I don't have that as an option.

Nathan (02:38):
Damn it.

Alicea (02:40):
Should I add that for the future?
No!

Nathan (02:42):
Yes!

Alicea (02:42):
Because that would be not.
.
.
OkayI add that for the future.
standby.

Nathan (02:55):
Looks like we are getting

Alicea (02:59):
No, All right Types.
.
.
of rides.
So for this I have rides 10years old or older.

Nathan (03:07):
Okay.

Alicea (03:08):
Rides under 10 years old .
Opening day rides, or opening, Iguess, a couple .
.
.
yearsrides yeah, something like that.

Nathan (03:14):
Yeah, all right Click, click, click, click, click,
click, click, click, click,click.
We pay for really top notchsound sound effects here.

Alicea (03:21):
Rides 10 years or older

Nathan (03:29):
Rides 10 years or older, okay, so what does that rule
out?
So that's gonna..
.
I mean clearly that's gonnaknock Guardians of the Galaxy
Cosmic Rewind off.

Alicea (03:33):
Yeah, um for Epcot.
.
.
It knocks off Guardians andRemy's Ratatouille Adventure.
That's it,

Nathan (03:39):
okay.
.
.

Alicea (03:41):
I mean, there's attractions too.
.
.

Nathan (03:46):
Frozen No, I think that was Because
that is a rework of the originalride, so I will give you.
The original ride is more than10 years old.

Alicea (03:57):
Yeah.

Nathan (03:58):
But when did they redo it and does that count?

Alicea (04:04):
That would yeah, that would knock it off too.
It opened in 2016.

Nathan (04:10):
Okay, and we're not going to count that.
That's just a glow up of theoriginal.

Alicea (04:14):
We're going to count that as a new ride.
I mean, they totally redid thatride, okay.

Nathan (04:20):
Yeah, I'm okay with this .
I'm okay with this.
We can leave it off, okay.
I mean mean, I'm not superinterested in it, so it's fine.

Alicea (04:29):
Okay

Nathan (04:31):
All right.
Uh, let's see.
The next thing we need to spinthe wheel for is types of
restaurants.
Spin that wheel, Alicea!

Alicea (04:39):
It's spinning.
Look at it spinning.
It is landing on, oh, characterdining okay, oh, um.
So that gives us two options.

Nathan (04:52):
All right, all right, all right okay, all right, I
guess we're doing all characterdining all day yeah okay now.

Alicea (04:58):
Now we're gonna do the month, the week and the day okay
month we have april, okay.
Right in the middle springbreak, okay.
Great week number uh.

Nathan (05:10):
Week number three okay all right towards the end of
spring breaks?
Yeah, all right.

Alicea (05:18):
What day in the week, day of the week is?
Tuesday.
Okay, so that is the.
That is is Tuesday, april 15th.

Nathan (05:28):
Okay, middle of oh, that's still going to be spring,
yeah.

Alicea (05:32):
I'm looking up on Touring Plans to see how busy
this day was at Epcot.

Nathan (05:39):
Great, oh, and this is the past.
So we also just lost Test Trackbecause it was still getting
worked on.
Yes, yes, yes, wonderful Okay.

Alicea (05:52):
Touring Plants has Epcot at a seven.
Oh joy.

Nathan (05:57):
Yes, Epcot is at a seven .
Is this Flower and Garden?

Alicea (06:02):
I believe so yeah.

Nathan (06:04):
Okay, I'm going to override some of our.
I'm gonna.
.
.
I won't override, I willaugment some character dining
with.
Just we'll lay in the simplefact that we're gonna hit some
food booths

Alicea (06:14):
okay, just so we don't get too hungry.
I guess

Nathan (06:19):
exactly, we're hangry yeah, I, if we're knocking off
Frozen Guardians, ratatouilleand Test Track.
There's still a lot of stuff,true, but we're also going to
need to find some things tospend some time with, and what
no better thing to do than godrinking around the world?

Alicea (06:40):
in Epcot Got it.

Nathan (06:42):
Okay.

Alicea (06:43):
All right, Okay.
So yeah, Epcot, it's a busy daybecause it's spring a busy day?

Nathan (06:50):
yeah, all right, so we're gonna do.
How do we want to do this?
Uh, we have to.
Well, man, how are we gonna dothis?
I guess we have to do characterdining.
We got to do breakfast, right,and then we got to do some rides
.
Find something for lunch.
Some more rides.

(07:12):
It's going to be a short day.
I think it'll be a later lunch,okay, yeah, like a late brunch.
Some rides we're not ropedropping, okay, we went hard the
night before, maybe not in apark, knowing us.

Alicea (07:28):
Okay, okay, okay, all right, and I have the average
wait times for that specific dayfor all of these rides.
Okay, got it.
So when are we getting to thepark?
Nine o'clock, oh, epcot is alater park anyway.

Nathan (07:41):
Yeah, I'd say 10.
Okay, I'd say 10.
And let's just assume, since wegot to start off, we got to do
food, we're doing characterdining, we're doing Garden Grill
.

Alicea (07:53):
Yes for breakfast

Nathan (07:54):
For breakfast.

Alicea (07:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Nathan (07:56):
I mean we would probably do Garden Grill for breakfast
anyway.

Alicea (08:01):
Yeah

Nathan (08:02):
Like, love that breakfast, love all those
characters there.
This is the rotating restaurantthere in the Land Pavilion, and
we have had such amazingmemories and experiences with
characters.
Yeah, yeah, and that's actually.
I think we've said that's oneof our favorite, if not our

(08:26):
favorite, character diningbefore.

Alicea (08:28):
They have changed it, though I went with.
Who did I go with?
I think I must have went withthe kids, or something.

Nathan (08:36):
Perhaps I was there, who knows?

Alicea (08:38):
No, I don't think you were.
I think it was when we weredown there for the holidays and
you stayed at home with yourfolks.

Nathan (08:45):
Oh yes.

Alicea (08:46):
Or stayed at the rental with your folks, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
And I think the kids and I wentand I snagged garden grill
reservations for breakfast and Iwas very excited about that
because we had had greatinteractions there.
They changed the breakfast alittle bit

Nathan (09:02):
Okay

Alicea (09:03):
And the character interactions weren't what we
were used to.
Now it was like Christmas Eve,I think?

Nathan (09:11):
The holidays.
.
.
yeah, yeah.

Alicea (09:12):
Yeah, it wasn't crazy busy though, but it was yeah.

Nathan (09:17):
Yeah.

Alicea (09:18):
I know why the kids wanted to get on Guardians.
That's what it was.
Yeah, and they wanted to get onGuardians.
That's what it was.

Nathan (09:23):
Yeah, and they wanted to get out of there.
Yes, and go get on the ride.

Alicea (09:27):
Yeah, yeah Well maybe I don't know, but it still wasn't
what we remembered.
Now, stuff changes andsometimes there's down days, so
hopefully this was just down day.
Yes, we are going to enjoy thisgarden grill breakfast
immensely, because it is goingto be amazing, oh heck yeah,
it'll be like as fantastic asalways.

Nathan (09:46):
Yeah, and we will figure we're going to be there for an
hour solid

Alicea (09:52):
Mm-hmm.

Nathan (09:52):
Yeah, yup, yup, yup.
Okay okay.
So 10 o'clock breakfastreservations.
10 o'clock breakfast.
We're out around 11.

Alicea (10:00):
Around 11.
Okay.

Nathan (10:02):
All right, I picked food .
Alicea, it's your go.
What are we doing first here?

Alicea (10:09):
We've got a couple things right there, true, and
since we just had breakfast atGarden Grill, we have to go on
Living with the Land.

Nathan (10:19):
Well, I mean, that seems very logical.

Alicea (10:21):
It's right there.

Nathan (10:23):
Yeah, it's just the natural order of things, yeah.

Alicea (10:25):
I mean we kind of looked around while we were eating,
because that goes around livingwith or rotates through living
with the land and we have tomake sure the land's doing okay.

Nathan (10:34):
Right Quality control.

Alicea (10:36):
Yes, yeah.

Nathan (10:37):
A different perspective.
You know, instead ofoverlooking, we're down in.
Yeah, get it, I get it.
Okay, so Living with the Landwas a 22 minute average wait.

Alicea (10:45):
Yeah

Nathan (10:46):
That's like a what 12, 15 minute boat ride something

Alicea (10:50):
Yeah, something like that

Nathan (10:52):
All right, let's call this.
.
.
carry the one.
.
.
I don't know.
Call it 45 minutes ish to bedone.
Probably Probably have to hit arestroom break in there
somewhere.
Not during the ride, by the way,just so everybody is clear.

Alicea (11:09):
Yeah, we're not like those couple people that have
just yeeted themselves out ofthe boat because they're.
.
.

Nathan (11:18):
idgits.

Alicea (11:19):
Yes, I was going to say a little bit stronger word than
that, but I stopped myself.

Nathan (11:24):
Thank you for not making me making me beep something.

Alicea (11:29):
Okay, so Living with the Land we get on it at around.
What'd you say 11?

Nathan (11:33):
Yeah, 11, say we're done at 1145 with the with the wait.

Alicea (11:39):
Okay

Nathan (11:41):
Yeah, yeah, okay, all right.
So that leaves.
.
.
I'm up next right.
I mean we're there, we're inthe building, let's go hit
Soarin.

Alicea (11:56):
All right, Soarin Around the World is a 46-minute wait.

Nathan (12:04):
Okay, so that's, we'll call that even math 12
the ride.
Yeah, okay, give it an hour.
We'll just we're keeping matharound here.

Alicea (12:16):
Yeah

Nathan (12:17):
So we're done at 12
That's a long wait.

Alicea (12:21):
That is a long wait.

Nathan (12:26):
Of all the things that haven't been crossed off the
list that is the longest waitthat we will have today.

Alicea (12:30):
Yeah, Soarin is popular.
It's a fun ride.

Nathan (12:34):
[singing] Popular

Alicea (12:36):
Yep Exactly.

Nathan (12:38):
I watched that on the plane to and from Vegas.

Alicea (12:41):
It's a good movie.

Nathan (12:42):
It's such a good movie.

Alicea (12:43):
Alright, so 12:45, we're done with Soarin.

Nathan (12:49):
I have a suggestion.
I'm sending you mental waves ohokay.

Alicea (12:53):
Well, I was just going to make this easy and continue
right around there and dofigment

Nathan (12:59):
oh, we have a disconnect .
Got it okay.

Alicea (13:03):
Which way were you going ?

Nathan (13:04):
nope, it's fine figment, it is

Alicea (13:06):
that's a short one

Nathan (13:08):
it is a short one, it's also weird a fever dream, uh-huh
, desperately in need of arevamp yes, okay, so it'll take
probably five minutes to walkover there.
Yeah, ten minutes, I mean we'reprobably going to stop and grab
a drink on the way.

Alicea (13:27):
Okay.

Nathan (13:28):
Well, yeah, there'll be a food booth or two.

Alicea (13:30):
Yeah, there's a couple things over there.
I was going to say afterfigment was probably when we'd
do something, okay.

Nathan (13:38):
That's fair.
Oh yeah yeah, okay, I got it,let's fair.
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I got it,let's go.
We'll do Figment.
So on that day that was a15-minute wait, we'll call it a
half hour for round math.
Okay, so 1.15.
I already know what we're goingto go do right after Figment
and that is not on your list.
But I'm calling an audible here.

(13:58):
Okay, and leveraging our DisneyVisa card not sponsored and
we're going to hit the characterphoto spot for Disney Visa
folks.
That is right there in theImagination Pavilion, nice.

Alicea (14:14):
Yeah, right next to it, yeah.

Nathan (14:16):
That usually has a little bit of a line.

Alicea (14:19):
Sometimes it really depends.
Since it's Flower and Gardengarden festival.
It might have a little more ofa line called a half hour total
yeah, uh, no, that goes prettyquickly.

Nathan (14:32):
Okay, I'd say 15 okay, all right, so that gets us to
130.
Yeah, what's next?

Alicea (14:39):
are you counting your picture thing oh?

Nathan (14:41):
yeah, absolutely.

Alicea (14:42):
Well, I'm trying to figure out if I want to go into
Showcase yet or if I want tomove over to Spaceship Earth.
Towards the front, I think I'mgoing to move over towards
Spaceship Earth.

Nathan (14:56):
Okay.
Are you going to Spaceship,earth, or are you just going in
that direction.

Alicea (15:04):
No, I'm going to Spaceship Earth.

Nathan (15:05):
Oh, you're going to make us double back.
It's okay, mm-hmm.
Okay, fair enough, all right,so we're doing Spaceship Earth,
yep, spaceship Earth, spaceship.
Wow yeah, spaceship Earth.
27-minute wait, plus the ride.

Alicea (15:27):
Uh, 27 minute wait plus the ride, we'll call this.
So half hour is 45 total pluswalk over.
Yeah, okay, so that's 215, 215.

Nathan (15:31):
oh, right, in the heat of the day, right in the heat of
the day, since we have startedin that direction and I'm
getting thirsty, we needmargaritas.

Alicea (15:43):
Okay.

Nathan (15:47):
And so we're going to the Grand Fiesta Tour starring
the three caballeros.
Okay, 12 minute wait.
Plus the ride, plus a marg Callit a half hour, what do you
think?
Plus the walkover oh, call it45 minutes.
We are not fast walkers when weare in a park on a hot day 45

(16:08):
minutes, yeah, so three o'clock.
Yeah, I'm assuming that we mayhave stopped and grabbed a snack
somewhere along the way at somepoint, possibly.

Alicea (16:17):
We'll see.

Nathan (16:19):
I mean, there's all sorts of food booths around you
never know.
This is, I think, where I'mgoing with.
That is just to say this is atwo main meal day and there will
be random grazing along the way.

Alicea (16:32):
Yes.

Nathan (16:33):
Yeah.

Alicea (16:34):
All right.

Nathan (16:34):
That's off to you, your turn.
So we're in Mexico.

Alicea (16:37):
Okay.

Nathan (16:40):
We've got some margs going.

Alicea (16:41):
Yeah.

Nathan (16:44):
Please don't double back let's just keep going.

Alicea (16:45):
Oh, there's a bunch that we've missed, but okay, um

Nathan (16:49):
oh, there are some things that we've missed, so
help me, god, we, if you selectwhat I think you're going to
select I am taking the other one

Alicea (17:00):
I'm I'm not going to well, I don't know because.
Okay, we could double back tomission space

Nathan (17:08):
yeah it's not too far,

Alicea (17:11):
but we just had margaritas.

Nathan (17:12):
True

Alicea (17:14):
it won't bother me

Nathan (17:16):
look, I'm doing green.
If we're doing mission space,you go on with your bad self and
do orange.
No, thank you.

Alicea (17:24):
There's nothing else over there because Test Track is
closed and it's three o'clock.

Nathan (17:30):
Yes.

Alicea (17:31):
But we need to hit it.

Nathan (17:32):
Okay.

Alicea (17:33):
So I'm doubling back and do Mission Space.
I'll do orange.
You don't have to do orange.

Nathan (17:37):
Okay, good, I'll wait for you.

Alicea (17:39):
You can do green.

Nathan (17:40):
Okay, I'll wait for you.
There's usually a food boothover there somewhere.
I'll get a beer while I'msitting and waiting.
I only had a 10-minute wait.
You were 18.

Alicea (17:48):
I had an 18-minute wait yeah.
So Mexico back over to MissionSpace, is what Like?
Another 10-minute walk,15-minute?

Nathan (17:58):
walk, yeah, maybe.

Alicea (17:59):
And the ride's probably like what Five, five minutes.
It's been so long since we'vebeen on Mission Space,

Nathan (18:07):
I wonder why

Alicea (18:09):
you don't want to go on it.
That's why,

Nathan (18:11):
correct.
Okay, okay.

Alicea (18:15):
So let's see, so that's what Like 345, 350?
.

Nathan (18:21):
Yeah, yeah, okay, 345.

Alicea (18:22):
350?
Yeah, yeah, okay 345.

Nathan (18:24):
Keep the math easy, okay , all right, so now it's back to
me.

Alicea (18:30):
Don't forget about the attractions too.

Nathan (18:33):
I know, I know, but like we're in the wrong, like we had
a thing going.
We were going to go backwardsaround the world and then you
decided to cross back overthrough the front of the park.

Alicea (18:48):
This is kinda what we do .

Nathan (18:49):
Canada far and wide impressions de France,
reflections of China's kind ofback there.
Turtle Talk with Crush is bythe seas, with Finding Nemo and
friends which you just walkedaway from.
What are we doing here?

Alicea (19:02):
No, we had already gone past it.

Nathan (19:05):
But we were at least over there.
I mean, the seas is next to theland.
We need to talk about strategy.

Alicea (19:13):
Point of fact.
Yeah, we never go in a straightline when we are at a park.

Nathan (19:17):
Well, especially at Epcot, because you're usually
drinking around the world, it'shard to walk in a straight line.

Alicea (19:22):
No we go.
We have the best of intentionsand it never ends up that way,
so this is just more realistic.

Nathan (19:29):
Okay, that's fair.

Alicea (19:33):
We're Mission Space, are we going straight through and
going across to the other sideand doing seas, or are we going
into Showcase

Nathan (19:44):
I mean, it's been six hours at this point since our
last full meal.

Alicea (19:48):
Uh-huh.

Nathan (19:49):
Are we doing late brunch and early dinner?
We can, okay.

Alicea (19:54):
Lunch at Akershus is until 4.40.

Nathan (19:59):
Hmm.

Alicea (20:02):
And then dinner starts at 5.25

Nathan (20:03):
all right, so it's still early.
Plus you have food booths andwe've been snacking, I'm sure.
Oh my gosh, this is sodifficult.
I hate to do this.
I think, oh man, I am torn.
Do we walk back across?
I think, oh man, I am torn.

(20:24):
Do we walk back across, doubleback, say hi to Walt along the
way, see what's going on in thenew middle of Epcot there, and
then go do the seas with Nemoand friends?
Or do we just start meanderingaround World Showcase and seeing
what's what over there?

Alicea (20:44):
This is literally what I just said.

Nathan (20:46):
I know.

Alicea (20:47):
You're just talking through it again.
Yeah, Okay okay, okay, yourchoice, I will go along, since I
messed it all up, yeah.

Nathan (20:56):
We are not on the same page today.

Alicea (20:58):
Nope, you totally switched directions from what I
was thinking too.
So nice

Nathan (21:05):
Alright, let's just do it.
We're walking back through.
We're going to the seas withNemo and friends.

Alicea (21:11):
Okay, yep Mission space to the seas.

Nathan (21:14):
Yeah, because exercise.

Alicea (21:16):
It's not that far.

Nathan (21:17):
It's not that close either.
Alright, so it's going to be a15 minute walk.
It's a 30 minute wait.
It's a 10 minute ride.
No, it's less than that Sevenminute ride.
Uh, I will be parched.
Probably.
Stop and have us grab somethingto drink along the way.

(21:37):
Call this an hour.

Alicea (21:40):
Okay, so done at 445.

Nathan (21:42):
Done at 445.

Alicea (21:44):
And we're down there.
We're going to go do TurtleTalk with Crush.

Nathan (21:48):
Totally fine with me.
I'm down with that.

Alicea (21:50):
So that's probably another half hour.

Nathan (21:53):
Yeah, I think so.

Alicea (21:54):
So that's 5.15.
Yeah, we're done with talkingwith dude.

Nathan (21:58):
We're done talking with dude.
Now.
We're definitely not close tothe Akershus Royal Banquet Hall.
I'm going to be getting alittle bit hungry.
We're going to grab some potatosoup in.
Canada at the booth and then gowatch Canada Far and Wide.

Alicea (22:21):
Okay, we could do that.
Alright, I agree with that,that potato soup.

Nathan (22:32):
So good, between a snack and the 15-minute show, we'll
call that a half hour, so we'reat 545.

Alicea (22:41):
Well, I'm just going to keep going around that way.

Nathan (22:45):
Excellent.

Alicea (22:46):
Thank you and we'll do Impressions de France, de France
, de France.

Nathan (22:53):
Have we seen that?

Alicea (22:56):
No, I don't think we have, but there's also a Beauty
and the Beast thing over theretoo.

Nathan (23:02):
I think it flops back and forth.
Oh, maybe it does, Like it doesone showing of one and then one
of the other.
Yeah, yeah yeah, well, wehaven't seen either yes, so
we'll go do whatever is in,whatever is there and it's about
an 18 minute show for theimpressions show.
Right guessing that's aroundwhat beauty and the beast is too

(23:23):
right, you're probably gonnaget a wine or a you know slushy
or something like that roséslushy.
There you go.

Alicea (23:30):
I'm thinking of you since we just got the potato
soup, I will not get the liquidcheese in a bread bowl we are
working towards dinner I know Iunderstood, but I'm not.
That's why I said I'm not gonnaget it okay, okay, I'll have to
save it for another trip, Iguess there you go.

Nathan (23:51):
So that gets us to what say 6, 15 yeah, that sounds good
.

Alicea (23:57):
Is it dinner time?

Nathan (23:58):
I think it is dinner time.
Okay at this point we only gotone soup yes, we only got one
soup, of course, so it's timefor it's time for dinner

Alicea (24:07):
and it was much, much better than the last time we had
the soup, which wasridiculously salty

Nathan (24:13):
yes, of course, because they've learned to keep the cap
on the salt bottle.
Yeah, yes all right so we'regoing to yeah, we're gonna go
head over to norway, okay, andwe're gonna do our dinner at
akershus royal banquet hall,which is, uh, we're going to
join Disney princesses forstorybook dining inside a

(24:37):
medieval castle with soaringarchways and cathedral ceilings.

Alicea (24:42):
Yes, we have never done this.
Is this a buffet?
I think this is a buffet.

Nathan (24:47):
I don't remember.

Alicea (24:49):
We haven't been there before, I'm just so.
Pricing for akashus is 69 peradult, which is ages 10 and up,
and 46 per child, which is agesthree through nine, and
character dining with princessesover in norway and epcot.
We have not done this before,but I think this is just looking

(25:10):
at the menu.
I'm fairly certain it's abuffet.

Nathan (25:14):
Got it.

Alicea (25:14):
It does have Norwegian influences for food, so there's
a lot of words here that Icannot pronounce.

Nathan (25:23):
You don't want the kjotkakker.

Alicea (25:25):
Whoa excuse you.

Nathan (25:27):
Hey, it's Norwegian meatballs.

Alicea (25:29):
Okay, yeah, I'll have meatballs.
Okay great Meatballs mashedpotatoes, salmon, cabbage ew
carrots and green beans, chickenwith apple and fennel preserves
, that sounds really good.
That does sound good.

Nathan (25:45):
Mac and cheese yes, the Norwegian classic mac and cheese
.
Mac and cheese yeah.

Alicea (25:51):
And they have plant-based dining too, as well
as allergy-friendly offerings.

Nathan (25:58):
They have an assortment of Norwegian-inspired desserts
they do.
I don't know what that means.

Alicea (26:04):
They don't say what they are.

Nathan (26:06):
It's an assortment.
Okay, if you have to ask.

Alicea (26:09):
I'm sure at some point we will hit this as a character
breakfast.

Nathan (26:13):
Is it character dining all day?

Alicea (26:15):
Yes, it is all day.
Okay, I don't know why I saidbreakfast.
That's usually the meals thatwe get are character breakfast.
True, sorry.

Nathan (26:23):
It's okay, I forgive you .

Alicea (26:24):
At some point we will hit this character meal.
I think we should.
Anyway, it'd be nice to hit allthe character meals.
Yeah, because we like thecharacter meals.
We do indeed.
All right, character diningusually takes a little bit
longer, true though this is abuffet, so it's going to be at
least an hour.

Nathan (26:43):
Yeah, for them to do the full loop and for you to see
everybody, yeah yeah, so we'relooking at 7 50.
Do you want to say 7 30?
Yeah, we'll say done at 7 30,so at an hour and 15 minutes,
including your commute, and wejust happen to magically have
the right reservation time forwhatever we wandered up over
there.
Of course, yeah, I mean, we'reprofessionals here we know what

(27:05):
we're doing.
We're sure, okay, what are wedoing next?

Alicea (27:13):
um, I think we've hit all rides we have we just need
to do reflections of China it

Nathan (27:20):
would be nice to reflect on China

Alicea (27:22):
um.
Where is Norway uh?

Nathan (27:25):
Northern europe

Alicea (27:27):
that's not helping me,

Nathan (27:27):
it's not near it's.
It's not near, uh, China at allgosh, I cannot remember I am
pulling up the map right now.
Oh, China's right next door.
Norway is next to Mexico.

Alicea (27:41):
Oh my gosh, I had this totally the wrong spot

Nathan (27:43):
I had in my brain.
Norway is where Germany is, forsome weird reason ditto.

Alicea (27:49):
Okay, so you might hate me, but you might not hate me,
because I know we just haddinner, but we are going over to
italy

Nathan (27:58):
okay

Alicea (27:58):
because it's time for a limoncello margarita

Nathan (28:01):
yeah, it is.
It is always time for alimoncello margarita.
It could be 8 am, it would betime for a limoncello margarita.
It could be 8 am, it would betime for a limoncello margarita.
Unfortunately, the park doesn'topen that early

Alicea (28:13):
no, um, I didn't check to see what time luminous was at

Nathan (28:18):
10 o'clock.

Alicea (28:19):
Oh, it's at 10 o'clock, okay,

Nathan (28:20):
it's pretty much always at 10.

Alicea (28:21):
Yeah, all right.
So dinner at Akershus done at 730.
We're gonna go over over toItaly for a limoncello margarita
and probably just chill therefor a bit.

Nathan (28:30):
Probably.
I would nominate that weposition ourselves to watch
Luminous from Japan at the gate.
That is one of my favoriteplaces to watch an Epcot show
from.

Alicea (28:43):
Okay, are we going to hit Reflections of China?

Nathan (28:46):
Yes, Because we have to go past China to go back towards
Italy.
So let's amend our plan hereand say we do Akershus, then we
hit reflections of China 15minutes and then we get to Italy
.
So that's 7.45.

(29:06):
After Reflections of China weget over to Italy.
We're done there at 8.45 or so.

Alicea (29:14):
Okay, so 8.45 done.

Nathan (29:17):
Yeah, we have an hour, 15 to kill.

Alicea (29:20):
We're right next door to the American Adventure and it's
always nice to take a look inthere and see what exhibits yeah
what exhibits that they haveavailable that little gallery
space.

Nathan (29:30):
Yeah, I'm down with that .
That is a great way to kill.
We probably need to kill, we'llsay 45 minutes, and that gets
us over to the Japan gate at 9,30 to.
You know, stake out a halfwaydecent spot to watch luminous at
10.
I think we've nailed this.

Alicea (29:51):
I am checking one little thing here because,

Nathan (29:55):
oh, you're going to get facts involved here.

Alicea (29:57):
Yes, because this is during the Epcot Flower and
Garden Festival.
and they happen to have theGarden Rocks concert series.

Nathan (30:09):
Oh,

Alicea (30:09):
let's see, we said April 15th.

Nathan (30:12):
Yes, ma'am

Alicea (30:12):
Okay, nobody's there, never mind.

Nathan (30:14):
Never mind, never minding Yep, nobody's there.

Alicea (30:20):
That was a good show that night it was.
It was so that just means itwasn't crazy.

Nathan (30:24):
Crazy, crazy.
The band was Nobody's there.
It was opened by manny moore.
It's great, great music

Alicea (30:35):
It's because we were going over towards the american
adventure and the garden rocks.
Um yeah, the, the pavilion isright there so I was like oh,
how crazy is it going to be?
It's not going to be crazy.
We are going going to enjoy therun of the place day there in
the America Adventure Pavilion.

Nathan (31:12):
But alas, they're not going to be there that late,
nope, so missed them, missedthem, I think that's it.
Yeah, yeah, we're done with theAmerican Adventure.
Yeah, I'll just leave that At9.30, then we park and enjoy the
fireworks at 10.

(31:32):
The park day is closed.
Our day is done.
Alicea, we did it, we did it.
Congratulations.

Alicea (31:41):
We're not tired at all.

Nathan (31:43):
No.

Alicea (31:45):
Our feet are not hurting , our knees are not hurting.
We're good, no.

Nathan (31:47):
We've done a very efficient tour of Epcot.
We haven't doubled back at all,we haven't walked side to side.
It's been pretty much flawlesson our behalf in terms of
execution.

Alicea (31:59):
Which is our typical park day anyway, Of course
flawless.

Nathan (32:02):
I mean, that's our typical day.
Yeah, that's just how we livelife Flawless, flawless.
If there's one word that peoplethink of when they think of us,
it's crazy.
I mean, it's flawless.

Alicea (32:15):
Mm-hmm.

Nathan (32:16):
Yeah, anyhow, that was fun.
Yeah, I like these yeah.

Alicea (32:24):
Epcot's down.

Nathan (32:25):
Yay, epcot's down, epcot's done.

Alicea (32:29):
Done, it's done.

Nathan (32:30):
Yay.

Alicea (32:31):
Sorry, now I want to go to Epcot.

Nathan (32:37):
We will do that again sometime soon, and by soon I
mean in June, yeah, which is ina while.
We have some things to getthrough before now, and then we
have some cruises, and we willtalk about this ever so briefly
here.
Alicea's broken, and as we sithere, or actually as this comes

(33:03):
out, in a week or so, Alicea isgoing in for some major surgery.
Alicea has to have some openheart surgery.
She has some plumbing in heraorta that needs to get fixed.
They're going to put a freshnew garden hose in there, a
little bit of duct tape.
Be all good, we will be withyou.
We will have a bunch ofepisodes.

(33:24):
Well, we do have a bunch ofepisodes that we have
prerecorded and will be great.
We will be on socials here andthere, as we're able.
I'll share some updates, butAlicea is going to be off work
for a few months.
It looks like yeah.

Alicea (33:41):
For recovery.

Nathan (33:42):
Yep Home taking care of her for the month of September.
So you may see us online more,you may not.
We have all sorts of thingsthat we need to do We intend to
rewatch the West Wing.
We intend to probably finallypick up the Villains series that

(34:04):
we started what nine months ago?
That we need to watch a wholebunch of Disney Vill villains
movies.
So we can finish that littlecompetition off.

Alicea (34:14):
They're just Disney movies.
They're not Disney villainmovies.

Nathan (34:17):
Yep Anyhow.
So yeah, Positive vibes.
Happy thoughts, pixie dust allappreciated for Alicea and her
road to recovery.
We'll keep you all posted, forsure.
With that, please do rememberwe are not affiliated with

(34:39):
Disney or any of theirsubsidiaries.
These are personal opinions andsuggestions based on our own
experiences.
We recommend working with atravel agent or contacting
Disney directly to plan yourperfect vacation.

Alicea (34:53):
If you have any questions or suggestions or
would like to take some time andtalk to us on our show to share
your own Disney experiences,please send an email to podcast@
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Nathan (35:02):
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Alicea (35:10):
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Nathan (35:15):
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Alicea (35:21):
Thank you for listening.
We will be in your ears nextweek.
Thank you for flying Star Tours, bye-bye.
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