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December 3, 2025 59 mins

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In this deeply personal episode, host Cinnamon is joined by her friend and colleague, Lieutenant Kenny Schroeder, to explore the profound impact of losing someone to suicide within the first responder community. Together, they share their intertwined stories of grief, vulnerability, and the emotional aftermath of Cinnamon losing a client and friend.

Cinnamon opens up about the self-doubt, guilt, and questions that haunted her after her client’s death, while Kenny offers the perspective of a peer supporter and witness to her pain. Their candid conversation breaks down the myth that helpers are immune to grief, and highlights the importance of support, compassion, and honest dialogue in the healing process.

Listeners will hear about the ripple effects of suicide, the challenges of carrying on in the face of loss, and the lessons learned about letting go of blame and embracing humanity. This episode is a powerful reminder that no one is alone in their struggles, and that hope and healing are possible—even in the darkest moments.

Trigger Warning: This episode discusses suicide and its emotional impact. Please take care while listening, and reach out for support if needed.

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After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information.


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