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June 10, 2025 72 mins

Author Bryn Pottie joins us At Jungle Jims Eatery for a few pints of Blue Moon as we dive into his new book titled, 'The Great Lunenburglary' - A hilariously silly and hearfelt novel for casual readers about two teenage kids in the 1920s who steal the famed Bluenose.

We learn a ton about Bryn, from how he toured for nearly eight years with parody comedy/slam poetry duo called the Definition of Knowledge, writing for the Beaverton, and how a job as a Captioner for television shows can actually help in making you a better writer. 

"The Great Lunenburglary. will be hitting local bookstores soon but you can buy June 12th online . We read a few bits in this episode, and we have to join the many accomplished writers, actors and humorists who agree that Bryn's new book is an entertaining read. 

https://www.brynpottie.com/

https://www.amazon.ca/Great-Lunenburglary-Bryn-Pottie/dp/1998149730

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
of all right cheers cheers welcome to the afternoon
point up by toby.
I am matt conrad brin potty allright brin how you doing man.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to the show.
I'm great.
Thank you for having me, guysoh, pleasure is ours.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Thank you very much.
We are um here at jungle gymsyes, and listeners second time.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know we haven't really gone away off the air,
but matt and I've taken asix-week break now from
recording.
Yeah, so that was the longestbreak we ever took, dude, that's
right, longest break we ever.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
So yeah, uh, you're, you're kind of uh, you know,
repopping our cherry here, cool,do you guys have like a?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
new perspective on everything, since you left and
you came back, I mean, he wentto ireland so I mean, maybe that
was cool.
Yeah, ireland's amazing yeahwhat my dad and my brother.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
We did a boys trip through Ireland for like a week.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
What happened Give me the top three.
I would believe that.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
We walked like 16,000 steps plus a day Damn yeah,
mild hangovers.
Saw a lot of beautiful sights.
Saw the Garrison Brewing Place,of course.
Saw the Jameson disting Place,of course.
Saw the Jameson distillery, ohwow.
Saw Castle it looked likeShrek's Castle.

(01:14):
Oh cool, a lot of beautifulsites, beautiful people in
Ireland.
Like the kindest people inIreland I've ever met.
Dare I say they're the nicestwhite people on the planet,
nicer than.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
France, france.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
I don't want to rank white people in different
countries right now.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
So maybe I shouldn't have said that, I'll just move
on.
They're pretty nice though.
They're very friendly and likefriendly, but not like nosy
neighbor friendly, you know,just like nice.
Okay, you know what I mean Ilike people that are just nice
and they're not trying tointerview you when they meet you
, like we're trying to do withyou.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, there's this guy I've been obsessed with
lately on YouTube and Instagram,the guy who says like follow me
, I'm delicious.
Yeah, that Irish guy.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Have you seen that guy?
He is awesome.
See the uh plastic surgery guy.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
No, okay, he's just, he's a, he's a guy, he's a
little bit bigger guy, he's likelong hair and like kind of a
scruffy beard and he, he, hedoes an incredible american
accent.
Okay, he does this greatamerican accent, but like, he
basically just talks a lot aboutlike how the irish are cliches
kind of thing, and then he alsocompares to other countries,
mostly americans, a lot aboutlike how the irish are, cliches
kind of thing, and then he alsocompares to other countries,
mostly americans a lot, and thenat the end he just says, follow
me, I'm delicious, right, butit's uh, he does on these rants

(02:32):
and they're, I just love them,like they're the like, yeah, and
but he, he embodies a lot ofthat because he, the one bit
where he was talking about howlike the irish people, because
you were saying how friendlythey are and everything, but
he's like you know there's a.
Uh, an irish guy yelling at hiskids will use lots of curse
words and he does this wholething where he's like.
You know there's a particularcurse word that he likes to use
that I won't say on air, but itis what it is, but uh, it starts

(02:56):
with a c oh yeah, they reallyget away with that in the uk.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, it's a big word , it's a big word.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
So he and he did this whole thing about how like this
is what it sounds like with anirish parent um yelling at uh at
his kids, and then he was likeand this is an american parent.
He's like now jimmy, you didn'tdisappoint me, it was really
great.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I'm not as good, as did you ever know that if you go
into google there are do's anddon'ts like you can say what are
the do's and don'ts in thiscountry, like when I go?

Speaker 3 (03:24):
and travel to like.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Ireland and like so, ireland, it's like, don't bring
up leprechauns.
It like says that politely, youknow it's kind of irritating.
Yeah, I had a long conversationwith someone.
You obviously didn't consultGoogle, did he?
Yeah, I was in like this iraasking.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I was in this ira where they were this is a bar
that I was told when I firstwalked in.
You had to speak irish to getin it and I was told not to say
a word until I was introduced.
And that I was told that I wasfrom canada and I ended up
talking this guy and this guygave me like a lesson, like a
history lesson on ireland and hetalked about leprechauns and
like where the lore came from,everything the the IRA guy

(04:03):
talked about leprechauns.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Sure did At the end of it he was just like and then
just ran away.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Wow yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Anyway, but no, it was an awesome conversation.
He did talk about leprechauns.
There you go.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Well, hey, you can't.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
You probably just can't go up to him and say like
where are your lucky charms?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, but maybe it's like an AI thing Like Google
just like ran through an AI tobe like what?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
are your do's and don'ts?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, the computer assumed you're not supposed to
talk about leprechauns.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, but you know, maybe it's ingrained there a
little bit easier than it ishere.
It says so don't be turned offby the cursing and swearing.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I hear in like England, you're supposed to be
okay with people like peeing onthe street a lot more as well.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Oh really, we're supposed to just kind of let
that slide to an extent that wewouldn't do here.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
But again.
I'm an ignorant, an uglyCanadian as they say.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I don't say you're ignorant, so we should go with
you now, but you guys just wenton a trip to Ireland.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
That's big it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
It was a trip of a lifetime.
Yeah, I'd be happy to be backtoo.
But yeah, so the greatLunenburglary.
I have a hard time with thatword.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's fair Lunenburglary, but it's a great
play on words, though Ioriginally wanted to call it
Schooner Schemers, which is evenharder to pronounce For folks
who aren't familiar with thetown of Lunenburg in Nova Scotia
.
Well, schooner Schemers is abit more universal but at the
same time having a book that hasLunenburg right on the title
looks great in a Nova Scotiabookstore.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, it does.
That's true, Right, and this isa comedy book on it for the
casual reader.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, it is.
Yeah, yeah, it's just a sillykind of like I feel like I
really, as I was writing it, Iwas like I want somebody who has
read like five books since highschool to be able to pick this
up.
Read through it and have a nicetime and not feel intimidated
by the idea to be able to pickthis up.
We'll read through it and havea nice time and not feel

(06:06):
intimidated by the idea thatsounds like my jam right there
Great.
No, and this is it?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
You were complimented by some pretty renowned at
least Nova Scotia or Canadianrenowned, including Leslie
Choice, that's right, I do havea quote from Leslie Choice.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
What did he say?
He said a nice thing he said aknee-slapping Nova Scotia tale
that has the mark of a legendaryBlue Nose storyteller, while
adding a contemporary twist thatwill keep you wide-eyed and
entertained through the mostharrowing Nor'easter and what
did the guy for 22 minutes sayabout how the funniest book
since?
He says, the funniest maritimebook since Anne of Green Gables.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Move over, lucy, that's bob kerr writer of uh 22
minutes that was a great aseveryone knows that you know the
, the comedy that anna greengables is.
Oh yeah, there's some funnystuff, yeah they drink the
raspberry cordial or whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, yeah um, still very popular in pei.
If you've been there they canstill buy it in some some like
as a tourist drink oh for sure,oh yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
My favorite quote that I got on it is, uh, not
particularly accurate about1920s radio, but totally
accurate about lockport, novascotia boo, by professor ken
scott, author of on ourwavelength a broadcasting
history from a canadianperspective.
Okay, I got a professor to saythat.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
So this is the first book you've written by yourself,
basically.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
By first book of all time.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
So cool that's some pretty high praise for a first
book, man.
Thank you yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Well, thank you for that praise on the praise.
Yeah it was.
I had some people in my Rolodexto ask, and then the publisher
asked a couple people as welland yeah, no, I feel good about
it.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
What kind of inspired ?
Because I mean and we will talka little bit more about the
history of things that you'vedone in the past but what
inspired you?
You know, like first of all,you have to be inspired to write
a book and then, second of all,you have to be inspired to
write this particular story.
Like what?
What kind of drew you to bothof those?

Speaker 2 (08:08):
um, I mean, I originally was like this idea
would be good as something yeahand then it was like oh, no one
would fund this as any kind ofanything.
So if it's a book, then even ifnobody ever publishes it, I can
publish it.
And it's a book, then even ifnobody ever publishes it, I can
publish it and it's done.
It's like I don't need to getpeople to rehearse this and put

(08:31):
it up on the stage.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
So this was a show in your mind of some sort, was it?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
In my mind.
I kind of thought of it as likea movie or like maybe like
going way back my original ideafor it.
I wanted to do something abouthistory.
For a long time.
My first idea was a movie about, um, so a world war two platoon
that wants to lose theirvirginity before the war is over
.
I had that real that well, randry pretty fast.

(09:00):
Um, and then after that I waslike I was in Nova Scotia, back
in Nova Scototia, uh, during thepandemic, and my thought was
trailer park boys but with rumrunning like in that era okay.
And then it kind of led me tothis, which is, um, teens
stealing the blue nose, yeah,and there are some like rum

(09:22):
runners and like bootleggers andstuff, and it's set in the
1920s.
So it's like, yeah, yeah, thatkind of era.
But it's like you know, whenyou think about, oh, I would
love to do that as a tv show ormovie, you're like, okay,
everybody's gonna wear periodcostumes and it's on a boat and
there's a big bunch of people,and it was just, it was never
gonna happen.
So as a book, you can, couldn'thave anything happen.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
So for our listeners, the book fiction, nonfiction,
nonfiction with a little bit offiction One million percent.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Fiction, one million percent.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
They steal the blue nose man.
It's like teenagers steal theblue nose.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's about teenagers steal the blue nose, that could
have actually happened.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
It could have, it easily, could have happened
right.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's what it makes.
Yes, this could have happened,right.
That's what it makes.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
yes, what if we have a blue nose?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
too.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's true, we don't know where number one is.
They're still out there withnumber one.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, they could be.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
There you go.
That's what we think is likeall the ghost ships and stuff.
Good call yeah those teenagersare now 90.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well, yeah, I assume that they're dead by now, for
sure.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, so was it hard writing in the 1920s, getting
your head in that mind spacedude.
Yeah, I'll be honest, it's avery cartoon version right of
the 1920s.
The reason why it was fun towrite in that time is it's like
um, I'll go off on a bit of atangent if that that's, we don't
mind in this drinking podcastif I go off on a bit of a
tangent.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
This tangent was brought to you by Blue Moon.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Right before writing this book, I had been working on
a series for Audible thatdidn't wind up happening.
It was two friends of mine and Iwrote this series about Babe
Ruth and Lou Gehrig on a roadtrip together Okay, when they
got stranded on the West Coastand had to make their way back
together and there were nineepisodes and each one was like

(11:13):
an inning.
Anyway, it was set in the 1920s, Very shortly before we went to
production we've been paid todo the scripts, We've done
multiple drafts.
They were like, hey, we'reactually not paid to do the
scripts, we've done multipledrafts.
They were like, hey, we'reactually not going to do it.
And then it turned out that aSaturday Night Live writer had a
show with them about Babe Ruthand Lou Gehrig at the same time

(11:37):
and so obviously you're going topick the famous guy's Babe Ruth
and Lou Gehrig show instead ofmine.
But my mind was kind of like,set in that old timey frame
creatively and it's just funbecause you can.
Kind of it makes it a cartoonworld in a way where, like
anything can happen.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
A little more of a sandbox.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, you can, you can.
A big part of the book is aboutlike a radio host and them
being on the radio and likethere's like the bootlegging,
like gangster guy, just stuffthat like if you put in now it
just would be you couldn't do itquite as silly.
I think something about makingit old timey gives you license

(12:19):
to just be like stories inthemselves.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I mean having probably more of a challenge
right Since mobile phones cameout Exactly.
I think of that all the timewhen you're watching movies,
even the last Scream.
You got the house phone.
Yeah, it just works.
That wouldn't work as well witha cellular phone, it is true.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Sometimes you watch old movies and things like that,
or even old TV shows whereyou're on the fringe of maybe,
where you're sometimes thinking,just call them on your cell
phone.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's like, oh, wait a second, yeah, yeah, just look
that up another thing that theyalways do in old movies that
just wouldn't work now is whenthey're like you have to do this
or I'm gonna tell the newspaper, and then the people are like
well all right, whatever youwant.
Nowadays would be like I'm gonnatell the newspaper and they'll
be like all right, go ahead, I'mjust gonna go to my own
newspaper and say that it's fakeyeah, no one cares more of a

(13:07):
threat to say like I'm gonnamake a post about it yeah, all
right, just go for it, yeah, Imean now you had some really
good writing experience too.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I mean, I think, fun writing experience like with
beaverton I have written for thebeaverton.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, that's a fun.
I mean, yeah, I love them.
I love they're great readingthem yeah, I years, I mean
they're super cool.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Um, that's something I've always wanted to do too.
Is is like write satire.
It'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I'll give you.
I'll give you some emailaddresses off air, if you want
to pitch to the Beaverton.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh yeah, cool.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, no, they're, they're great.
I got involved with them, myfriend Miguel, who hosted the TV
version of the Beaverton.
They were doing a live showwith all the cast of the TV show
and some of the writers, and hebrought me in to do some kind

(13:57):
of a character.
I forget much of the details,but I was on their live show and
I met the guys through that andthen I started pitching some
articles.
I'm happy with the ones that Igot on there.
Um, it's a funny, it's a funnysite there's a couple articles
mentioned on your website.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
What were they?
They're like a couple of theheadlines.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
My favorite one that I've ever done for them is uh
rich dad.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Green lights independent film there was a
woman nova scotia walking into.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh yes, uh, nova scotia voted best place in the
country to walk into the sea andend it all and I like that dark
, beautiful property brotherscan't repair relationship with
property dad it was a few greats, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
And then the.
And then you also wrote forlike a book.
I mean, uh, my stepdaughter wasobsessed with the Meatball show
.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh, the Clyde of the Chance of Meatball TV show,
really yeah, I've never heard ofLove for the Show.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I know the movies were Probably more the movies
Fair enough, but it's justeverything kind of spun off,
yeah, so if it was of themultiverse of the meatball, hey
you know what was super cool?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, hey, you know what was super cool.
The coolest part of that was wegot notes, quote unquote from
the directors of the movie, whoare Miller and Lord, who also
did the Lego movie, but morepersonal to me, Clone High was
them.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay.
That was like an adult cartoonIn the early 2000s.
I remember that, just thegreatest in like the early 2000s
, that is like.
I remember that, like, oh, likejust the greatest.
The main character in that, abelincoln, you're right voiced by
will forte.
Yes, yes, okay, I know Iwatched it.
Yeah, yeah, I just can'tremember I watched that dvd
until it melted.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
but uh, the coolest part was that those guys gave
like notes on the episodes, butin the notes were like we don't
have time for this, it's fine.
We're making a Han Solo movieright now, don't worry about it
but it was cool, just to knowthat my name was in a PDF and an
email attached to those guys.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
And then you did a lot of cool stuff.
I'm looking at your story there.
This comedy duo, I With thiscomedy duo.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I was a comedy duo, yeah, so you and this, it was
slam poetry.
It was a slam, okay, yes, thereis a bit of a long walk to how
we got to there.
Okay walk me through it, man.
Okay, so this is another thingthat Gen Zs will not understand.
The thing that Gen Zs will notunderstand.

(16:28):
But it used to be that sketchcomedy was something that you
did at a live venue?
Yes, it was not just a thingthat you would be like.
What if the headline would saya guy doing this, and then you
would film a couple examples onyour phone and that was it Right
Not to go off.
I'm deep into my pint.
I'm going off.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
No, no, that's okay.
Do you want another one?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
yeah, yeah, let's, let's, let's keep this going um
but um, so I was in like asketch troupe in toronto called
the boom and it was like 10 ofus and we had a monthly show at
this place called thesupermarket, and then we moved
to the drake, to the Drake Hotel.
We would just go up and dothese like wacky scenes once a

(17:08):
month and it was 10 of us andthe shows were like sold out,
being hammered.
Every time it was a big partywith like sketch comedy, super
fun.
But you can't be a 10 comedyteam and expect that to become
anything like this you can'tsplit the money 10 ways.

(17:28):
You can't tour with 10 peopleetc.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Etc.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Right, uh, so it makes it harder, at least yes,
and it was also right at thattime where it's just like canada
now, we make like one tv show ayear yeah, if it's not you,
then try again next year, yeah,if you're not, corner, yes, or
convenience, yeah, yeah so,anyway, nothing really happened

(17:51):
with it.
One of the guys in it was reallylegitimately into slam poetry
and me and hannon this woman whowas in it uh, made fun of him
behind his back for quite a bitreally, until the two of us
decided, hey, we're going toshow you just how stupid this is
by doing this, this sketch ofthe two of us calling ourselves
definition of knowledge, becauseit was the most pretentious

(18:13):
name we could think of and wedid this like slam poetry kind
of stuff, and then we spun offinto our own two-person what
does she have?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
she had on her t-shirt, she had a.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
T-shirt that said Gentrify this and there was an
arrow down to her crotch.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
And then I had a big shirt that was a bunch of dollar
signs on it that I found I sawone of the promotional posters
where you guys would look likefrom the Belly soundtrack, Like
if you remember this.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
So DMX and.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Nas made a really big hip-hop movie.
This is probably the year 2000,.
I think it was the year 2000,.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, and you guys did that foryour promotional photos.
It was just freaking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
We did that exact thing.
It was for our album cover,yeah, yeah.
No, we had a great like.
It's something that, like Ithink, ran its course.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
And.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I love her.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
You guys did it for eight years we did it for a long
time and we did we had somegreat opportunities.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Like we, we went to la, we like I thought this was a
prank, but we got an email andI'll say who cares?
Um, we got an email for that.
I was like this has to be aprank, but it was from naomi
odenkirk he's like bobodenkirk's wife also his manager
and like bill hater's manager,etc.
Etc.
He was like, hey, I've heardabout this like wacky comedy
show.
You guys are Bob Odenkirk'swife, also his manager and, like
the haters, manager et cetera,et cetera.
He was like hey, I've heardabout this like wacky comedy

(19:29):
show you guys are doing up inToronto.
Would you ever want to come toLA?
And like talk?
And so, yeah, we went downthere and we were doing some
shows for her.
We were doing cool LA shows.
We had a meeting with her whereshe was like look, love you
guys, but I'm not going to doanything in Canada.
You have to move down to LA ifyou want me to do anything with

(19:49):
you.
And we were just like we spentall our money on this visit.
So anyway, that's who knows ifwe keep that in the show or not,
but that was a cool opportunity.
We did fringe festivals, we didAustin Sketch Fest, we did a
lot of festivals throughout thestates and canada had a
wonderful time.
And she, she went on.

(20:10):
She starred in the show oncrave called bria mac gets a
life oh cool, she's one of theco-stars on that.
She's in um the boys.
She's in what we do in theshadows.
She's in the show the boys yeah, wow, I've watched every
episode.
Yeah, she's in there she's inthe the fire starter remake okay
no, she's, she's crushing it I,I have nothing but love for her

(20:31):
.
But I wound up leaving the cityand, um, but yeah, we would
like much of our comedy duostuff was like she's a black
woman, I'm a white guy, ofcourse, yeah, she would say
something crazy and I would belike, uh, I don't know if that's
right, and then the audiencewould get uncomfortable, not
knowing who to side with wasmost.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Uh, I love that kind of like uh, colin and michael
from snl before that kind ofthat's right, yeah, yeah, love
those guys.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yes, we did uh, a lot of similar.
There was a poem called like mychocolate body where she would
do this like body affirmationthing about being a black woman
but like get mad at me when Iwas like I don't know if I
should be doing this and she'slike no, you have to, and I was
like okay, like.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
So you did like my vanilla body.
No, no, we said the same stuff.
We said the same stuff at thesame time you said yeah, yeah, I
had to.
She was like you have to do it.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
And then the audience would be like I don't know if
we wanted to or not it was allplaying with.
That's awesome.
It plays good with a liveaudience, because everyone's
just sitting on their hands like, do we like this, do we not
like it?
And that uncomfortable middleis where we played around a lot,
but I people love that everyoneloved it.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
I think everyone loves that stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
We we did really well .
Was any of this taped or filmed?
Can I watch it?
The tape is bad because it'slike it's one of those things
where it's like it's filmed fromthe back of the room.
The audio sucks and it'swhatever, whatever, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Yeah, we pitched it around as aTV show.
It seems like you could do alittle sketch thing Like.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I mean, I'm a big still a big sketch comedy fan.
I used to love going.
We had Picnic Face here inHalifax if you remember, those
guys were fantastic.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I love all those guys .

Speaker 1 (22:10):
You'd go to one of those shows live, though, and
you'd cry laughing.
Yes, that was the differencewhen you saw it live.
You just understood theabsurdity in the room at the
moment, and they were so quickand they were so.
Everyone was feeding off eachother's energy, and it was just
something else, right?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Every single one of them Like I mean.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Mark Little is like one of the best.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
One of our best as far as Canadian comedians is
concerned, A hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Now, I like the two and they ended up going to Mr D,
like a couple of them fromPicnic Face.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, we were we would do stuff with them in
Toronto all the time, Like itwas it was cool.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Some people you ever watch that show.
Um, I think you should leavewith Tim Robbins on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I think that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
You don't like it.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Uh, it's not that I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I don't like it nearly as much as he does.
That's, I think, the thing Ihear you.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I don't know why I connect with that show so much,
but I could watch almost so manyof the sketches over and over
again, laugh continuously.
My partner, she, loves it too,so we can both throw it on
together and just laugh.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
It's a good one.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
He sent it to me and was like dude, I think you just
built it up to me.
He was like this is thefunniest thing you'll ever watch
.
It's the funniest funniestthing I've watched.
And I was like it's not thefunniest thing ever.
It's funny.
I love the Ghost Host Tour.
I think that's probably the oneI sent him.
He loves that.
That's my favorite one.
There's tons of great ones.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
But the Ghost Host Tour is just so stupid it gets
that specific thing and forpeople listening, the Tim
Robinson Ghost Tour is basicallyhe goes to a nighttime tour
where you can say whatever youwant, and he decides to say some
overly explicit things whilehe's on this evening ghost tour

(23:49):
with a bunch of kind of morerespectable adults that don't
really want to hear what he'ssaying.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
He gets very upset that they changed the rules.
Have you seen Detroiters?
Yeah, man, yeah, loveDetroiters as well.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Some of the best shows like that, shows like that
, that.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
So I watched detroiters because of that
netflix show and hopefully theybring that back, because that
sam guy is really funny too he'sgreat he's, uh, he's brilliant,
brilliant guy, yeah no, I meansketch comedy is one of those
things that it's kind of a lostart form in a way.
I think tim robinson is keepingit alive, but it's like it's an
art that lost is wrong.

(24:25):
It's an art form that haschanged a lot, to the point
where I don't quite get it.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I don't what it is now, and that's not, and that's
not on anybody that's on me,like I know, but you watch harry
night live now and it's a.
It's a lot more hit or missthan it was.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Uh, I feel like everybody, depending on their
age, says that right, no,there's the people, our parents
would be like when joe piscopoleft it started to suck yeah for
us it's like we will farrellleft.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
It suck yeah I think that everybody's personally I
I'm saturday night live to mewas like 1990 to 96, right six.
Those were like the 96.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
We were so young then .
Like because will farrellstarted coming on the scene?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
then he was doing some good stuff, then that kind
of thing, right.
But it was like they lost a lotof the real heavy hitters by 96
.
I love Sandler and Spade andRockwell.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
They were on that, yeah, but that was 93, 94,.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
right, okay, yeah, that's his golden era, for sure.
I think the thing with sketchcomedy now is that I think I
mean I'll go off on this, I'mProfessor Sketch Comedy.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
I'm a pint team, let's go in.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I think Chappelle Show changed the game.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, okay, for better or for worse.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
For better, but it changed the game in the way that
, like what he would do, thankyou.
He would tell you what thepremise of the sketch was off
the top.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
He would do a monologue where he was like I
was thinking you know what ifreal life was like a video game?
Whereas on Saturday Night Livethe show, the sketch begins and
it's like we gradually find outthat real life is like a video
game.
He tells you this is thepremise and then the sketch is
examples of that premise.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
And that moved the ball forward.
And I think he just had to dothat to kind of give himself a
bit of a safety net, becausethis shit he was doing was so
extreme it was crazy right itwas it was new for the time.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
He was ahead of his time right yeah, I mean, I think
that's that's, that's a dvd setthat I would say that anybody
our age like all of ourroommates have added if we
didn't have it we all had it,that's.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I remember sitting there watching it around with my
friends when we got, like the,the third season came out, which
was like two episodes, a coupleand and darnell and uh, what's
uh eddie murphy's charlie murphy, and I thought charlie murphy
was brilliant, amazing anddarnell, uh, darnell, like I saw
him just for laughs a coupleyears ago, don Donnell.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Donnell Donnell Williams.
I want to say I forget his lastname, Rollins Donnell.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Rollins yeah, maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
If I'm wrong, then put a disclaimer in.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
No, you're saying the name wrong, but I don't know it
either, so that's okay, becauseI'm terrible with names.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
That other guy.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
I saw him do live stand-.
I'm actually surprised hehasn't called you Brian yet you
would not be the first.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
You won't be the last Rollins, though I think his
last name was Rollins or Rollins.
Okay, so he was the reason Ifound the Kill Tony podcast,
because he was kicked off of itand I was listening to
Charlamagne.
Tha God Yep.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
You know that guy from Hotline 7.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
No, I know that and I was listening to them.
They were.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
And I was listening to them and they were talking
about the fallout that he had onthat show.
He left because they were kindof making fun of him and he got
mad and he left in the middle ofthe episode.
So I went to go listen to thatepisode and I said wait a second
.
There's a podcast dedicated tocomedians getting up for one
minute and then gettingeviscerated by other comics.
This is ridiculous.
That's tough stuff.
You watch it.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
No, or listen't, do that.
No, comedians being in front ofeach other.
I'm in a number of group chatsabout that.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
And I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
I would never want to see that displayed publicly
because it's mean.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
It's brutal, it's ruthless.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Some of the absolute meanest group chats and we have
certain people that we pick onand it is really so sad stuff is
filmed in texas, yeah, and sothey've all moved, like it's the
mothership right, it's allattached to, like joe rogan's
and all that stuff yeah, sothey're very.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
They go pretty hard in the paint.
I believe it.
Um, and it is, it's, it'sbasically.
It is like I would say that,don't get me wrong, I love it.
I have a dark sense of humor,but it is definitely the group
chat you don't want to get outaired.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Couldn't handle it.
I personally couldn't handle it.
When I'm saying those kinds ofthings, I need to know that it's
a secret.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, I'm the same.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I have a dark sense of humor, but I like to keep it
real close to my chest and youstill do stand up yourself.
You were doing stand up.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
no, I did stand up for a little bit as like a teen
basically, and it's just.
I never.
I'm not great at it.
It's something that I'm notnaturally very good at.
I don't the structure of itI've got a lot of deep, like
some of my best friends arestand ups.
I've got a lot of deep, likesome of my best friends are
standups.
I've got a lot of deep respectfor it.
It was the kind of thing whereI think I've done it like 50

(29:09):
times in my life.
I wasn't getting that great atit, I did, wasn't getting a lot
of enjoyment out of doing it andyou know those rooms that that
stage time it was like I'mtaking this away from somebody
who really wants to be up on thestage.
So I'm gonna step aside and letsomebody who cares get better
instead of me just like wantingto hang out with my friends.

(29:32):
And you know, I was in asituation where to hang out with
your friends, you have to go tothe friggin fox and fiddle
across from the hooters andwe're all doing the open mic and
like I'm either hanging aroundthere watching other people do
stand-up, so I may as well do ittoo, but it's just kind of like
I don't want to do this, yeah,but again, not because I don't

(29:52):
like it or I think that there'sanything wrong with it.
I just it, just if it's not Ilove this thing for you.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
it is not for you.
When you see I love stand-upcomedy, I can't, I can't like I
can't do it, I don't think Icould do it.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I've tried it, if you love it and want to do it.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I think it's the repetition.
That's the thing I think peopledon't get about.
It is that they're like oh, Icouldn't do it.
The reason you couldn't do itis because you have to be doing
it twice a night for four,bleeping three years before
you're okay and even then youmight not be great.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
So before bleeping like three years before you're
okay, 100%, yeah.
And even then you might not begreat Like it's almost 10 years
until most of these guys canreally kind of start cutting
through and getting, and that'sonly if you're actually truly
kind of creative.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
If it's truly for you , there's certain people who I
see do at Friends of Mine, likekeith pedro is a friend of mine,
or dylan gott.
Like people who, like you, seethem up on the stage, or these
canadian comedians you see themup there, uh, steph tolov.
Like people who you're, justyou watch them do it and you're
like this person is like made to.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
They belong there.
This is this is.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
It took them a while to figure it out, but like this
is their.
This is what they should bedoing with their life.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
And yeah, if you're not that person, then somebody
else is and you're taking awaytheir opportunity to become that
?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, I never thought it was like some people just
need to find their their like,find their timing in their voice
, right, cause that's a bigthing of comedy is like all
three of us could say the exactsame two sentence joke and it
come off very differently basedon their cadence and you know
the way we kind of like ourvoice and stuff like that too
and your own experience I thinkthat's the the mistake that a

(31:32):
lot of comedians make when theyget started not mistake a lot.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
A big part of being on the way to developing your
comedy voice is just being likehey, here's something about a
movie that I thought was funny.
Or like, hey, here's somethingfunny that I saw on TV or
whatever.
But to become the real, toreally develop your own comedy
voice, it's got to be like whatis it about me?
What does my experience bringto this?

(31:57):
That's different and that takesa long time to develop.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Good way to put it.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Hey, I studied under.
I studied under.
I went to a community collegecourse in comedy writing and
performance.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
You did a community college.
There's a community collegecourse in comedy In Toronto.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Wow, at 17 years old I moved from Lunenburg to
Etobicoke to take this communitycollege course in comedy,
writing and performance.
At that time time it was a veryhell's angels dominated
neighborhood.
Okay, it was a rough, crazy,crazy time in my life uh, and
how old were you then?

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I was 17.
Oh wow, that's young.
Like, yeah, like you obviouslywere pretty headstrong dude
getting into that.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Uh, it was like I was going to go do something crazy
and the fact that there wasschool attached to it was like
my parents would be like, allright all right, go to school.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I'm going to clown college.
Mom, you can't stop me.
What are you going to do aboutit?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
So yeah, it was some of the wildest things I've ever
seen or done in my life happenedthere.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
And, yeah, there was a hell's angels bar right across
the street and I was 17 andthey were like underage drinking
is like the least of the crimesthat happens here.
So come on whatever man and uh,yeah, let's be honest, underage
drinking is probably the leastof the crimes happening anywhere
?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
yeah, but in a bar though it's a crime, but they
were like whatever, um, yeah, itwas fun.
Um, and yeah, I said like Istudied under like um, larry
horowitz.
Uh, this, this woman, robinduke, who had been on saturday
night live in the 80s was mysketch teacher whoa uh, joe
flaherty from sctv?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
oh no, he is.
Yeah, he did some his brother,dave flaherty, lesser known,
okay, but insane.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Like an insane person , but one of those like crazy
people where you're likeflaherty, though, was in maniac
man.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yes, he was right.
Yeah, that's right, yeah, yeahno, he's he, he was out.
He was a fly, right?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
yeah, yes, yeah, no, he's, he's, he's rip uh, but
like man, what a?
I just uh like they picked thislady, picked this guy off of
the street and put him in frontof a classroom full of students.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
My God, I loved that.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
That was an underratedly good Canadian show
Absolutely.
That was like a little bit dark, and I think people just
weren't quite ready for it atits time.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
No, canada has like some shows that are like either
this is trash or this is like soweird that it's maybe one day.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Honestly, I almost feel like if that show aired
today it might actually havegotten a following more than it
did like the early 90s orwhatever it was when it was on.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
I'd love to have two more points.
That's right.
It's based on a video game.
That's right.
I'd love to have two morepoints.
That you bring and ratecanadian shows, trash or uh
number number one trash and bestmurdoch mysteries so you love
murdoch.
Mysteries?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
oh, yeah, yeah it's our family matters okay, in that
it's we're on season 18.
We're well beyond the point ofany of the stories making any
sense.
There are jet packs there arelaser guns there's a spin-off
show about going back in time.
They're like, they're like I'venever watched the show every

(35:09):
fit like charlie chaplin hasbeen a murder suspect um james
naismith, the inventor ofbasketball has been a suspect,
so is he a time travelingmystery solver, no, but he has a
great granddaughter who comesback to his time in the spinoff,
macy Murdoch.
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
That blew my mind.
It's wild.
I thought this was like a drylike.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
That's what everybody thinks.
But it's out to lunch.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Very inappropriately named.
I must say, Veryinappropriately named.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
It's Murdoch and he's solving the mystery.
Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
I didn't realize it was a comedy.
I guess I probably would have.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
It's not, it's not okay, no, it's dead serious, but
like there's one more so theygot jetpacks and they do this
stuff.
All deadpan he and Nikola Teslainvent a laser gun together and
shoot somebody in the head andthen escape.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Episode how much lsd are the writers doing?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I don't know it's a pure stream of consciousness.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Show is nobody watching this show and they
could just do whatever the heckthey want.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Do you think that's maybe the all of our
grandparents are watching it andthey just think it's great,
it's wow, I it's.
It's like there's an episodewhere somebody in it's like said
in like 1910, yeah, this guyinvents the internet with these
like In 1910.
Yes, with these like steampunkykeyboard things with a sepia

(36:29):
monitor Before the circuit.
Yes, okay, they invent heinvents this crazy internet
thing and then, like somebody,immediately sends like a sepia
toned dick pic on it.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
No way, and that's a clue to one of the murders.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
This show is nuts.
And this is like four seasonsago and we're still going.
Wow, I have just.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
I will watch this within the next week.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
There's one where, like Sir Wilfred Laurier, gets
poisoned by a butter tart.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
That's very cliche Canadian, that's great.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
And there's always something where they're like
drinking coffee instead of teawill never catch on.
There's always some kind of alittle thing like that it's nuts
, it's nuts.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Wow, jeez, I mean yeah, I mean I've never watched.
I mean I'm I try to supportcanadian tv as much as possible
it's difficult.
I'm a big, big fan of cornergas, big fan of kim's
convenience.
Love jerry d, like mr d orwhatever, like I'm having
trailer park.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Obviously I've never watched paw patrol, but yeah, I
have a three-year-old and I'venever watched paw patrol.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
How did you get away with that?
He's never watched it.
He's never watched it.
We don't give him a lot ofscreen time.
Okay, right, he gets verylittle.
Oddly enough, he prefers readingand likes sitting down and
books and stuff like that andeverything.
So he does like movies andthings like that.
But I think because weprolonged the screen time for

(38:09):
this amount of time and we wereand even when he does have it,
we're very strict about it um,he uh, yeah, he doesn't ask for
too much.
He's actually managed.
He loves star wars, okay.
So he's watched a lot of.
He's actually watched theoriginal trilogy.
He'll sit down, like at threeyears old, he'll sit and watch
the original trilogy, right well, they're great, they are great
and we often we watch road oneas well.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
So we're four movies in and he's obsessed with darth
vader oh yeah, obsessed, so it'sso cool he goes around like I'm
kind of a lapsed star wars fanI would say I, um, I've been
getting, I've started watchingand or, and I do, like I haven't
watched that one yet.
I found a lot of the Star Wars.

(38:44):
Things are just too much for thefans in a way where I tried to
watch the Boba Fett one and Iwas like I know who Boba Fett is
, I should be able to understandthis, no problem.
And then the first episode.
I was like I needed to haveread novels and watched several
animated series to follow whatthe fuck is going on.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Boba Fett.
I thought it was okay.
Mandalorian was awesome.
I really like Mandalorian.
They kept it simple, thoughit's a good story.
It's just in the universe, it'snot like you don't have to know
too much about it.
It could actually also just notbe Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
The other thing that, but Ahsoka was good I thought
Ahsoka was good.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I just, I don't know what that is.
Yeah, so that's fine.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
But I mean they had Obi-Wan, which I thought was it
was okay, it had its really goodmoments, and then some really
dry moments.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, like had some epically awesome moments.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
I watched the first episode of that one and was like
okay, like there was, like fleawas chasing a little girl
through the woods and I was likethe better stuff comes towards
the end, when, like vader, likethey really show vader's power,
it had moments of like rogue onegreatness, okay, but then it
had some really like dry, reallybad stuff, and we did like we
all finished acolyte.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, that's one more .
It's like I don't know aboutanything.
You know what the cool thingabout?

Speaker 3 (40:09):
that though is you again it could, outside of the
fact that it's based around jedi, it's like a.
It's crazy.
It's kind of a star wars likemurder mystery.
Okay, I, I liked it as astandalone and yeah hey, I keep
giving Star Wars a chance.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I'm watching Andor right now.
I have been enjoying it.
I've been watching itsimultaneously with Secret Lives
of Mormon Wives on Disney Plusgoing back and forth between the
two, and they're both prettydramatic.
All those Mormon wives wouldsupport the empire, for sure.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
I haven't watched Andor, but I heard it's very.
It's less action and verydialogue filled.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I would say that that's true.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, every so often you see a TIE fighter fly by and
you're like, oh yeah, this isStar Wars, because that's like
you would probably pay moreattention to that, because
that's kind of like you do thatwork right, the like you have to
pay attention to dialogue um,it's not even that, it's like
it's, it's uh well you said work, but you, we didn't even ask
what you do on uh yeah, that'sright.
We talked about that on theshow.

(41:15):
We talked about that so yourfull-time job?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
you were a uh oh yeah , I do for work.
I am a closed captioner andvideo describer.
So you would actually reallypay attention to stuff like that
, and I've got to pay attentionto the grammar and spelling and
how to describe the soundeffects.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
That must be the funnest bit the sound effects.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
You know what I'm going to say this.
This is very dry and no one'sgoing to care.
My opinion this is my hotclosed captioning take.
I think memes have ruinedclosed captions, Really.
Yes, because so much of it nowis like whatever intensifies the
memes, people expect there tobe a lot of stuff on the closed

(42:01):
captions.
The best closed captions arethe ones that you forget are
even there.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Well, I mean today's world, everybody's watching
closed captions.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, but, like I think everybody has a certain
expectation of them and the enduser is supposed to be somebody
who's hearing impaired and itshould be, so they can
seamlessly enjoy the show rightthat's the like number one end
user.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Yeah, you know what actually, I would actually
challenge you on that.
Okay, please, because there'sanother big user who's that?
People who don't speak English.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
That's subtitles.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Subtitles Subtitles and captions are different.
That's right, sorry.
Subtitles are no, you're right,sorry, sorry.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Subtitles are no, you're right, sorry, I'm
thinking subtitles and yeah, butyeah, right now, but they've
started cheaping out, becauseyou'll watch something on, like
amazon, where they only havecaptions and not subtitles right
, you'll be watching a foreignthing and they'll still have the
in brackets, like yells orwhatever, and it's like I know I
can hear it right but, um thesubtitles are simply supposed to

(43:03):
be the text for a non-englishspeaker.
Yes, a caption is something fora hearing impaired speaker and I
feel like the internet has madepeople expect, okay, big
descriptions of the soundeffects.
But if you can see a sound, ifyou can see an explosion on
screen, in what way is explosionin brackets helping?

Speaker 3 (43:22):
you, it's not Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Those are supposed to describe off-screen sound
effects Explosion off-screen.
Yeah, like a door openingbehind the guy.
Why is he turning it around?
Because the door opened.
That's the information you needto fill in.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Okay, all right, so that's kind of the difference
that brings boring boring takeabout accessible media.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I like it though.
All right, it gives people agood understanding.
I mean, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah, no, that's true , because here's the thing
Someone like myself, whereobviously I'm very privileged in
the fact that I can just watchsomething yeah, right, I mean my
wife, I've gotten used tosubtitles because my wife, her
mother tongue is not English, soI don't even see them anymore.
Right, and that's perfect.
Yeah, so I'm so used to it,everything but the um realizing

(44:09):
that, yeah, like, that's kind ofsomething that you're you know,
it's a huge kind of assist forpeople trying to enjoy the show
to the full ability that theycan, where I just wouldn't even
think of that, really, when Iknow, the, the, the closed
captioners oath or whatever, isto make sure that somebody who
can't hear understandseverything that's happening.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
And to me describing that the music is suspenseful or
whatever doesn't matter to mepersonally, right.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
So music intensifies.
I've seen that before.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah, you, you can do it, but it just doesn't really
help you.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I don't that that's a subtitle thing.
Yeah like, yeah to me, andmaybe they're just assuming I
the listener as the volumeturned off.
I don't know yes, well places.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Now don't want to pay for both subtitles and captions
, so they just get one captionfile and call that the subtitle
yeah, because there's anotherdescribed something visually
impaired described.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yes, I do that as well.
That's for people who arevisually impaired.
And how does that work?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Well, that's like if you're visually impaired and
you're watching a show, it'sreally to.
If it doesn't interfere withdialogue, it's to give you
visual information that youwouldn't be getting, so that
this dialogue makes sense to you.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
So someone kind of says, like scrolling across the
desert at night, Matt looks atMike.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yes, A voice would come on and be like Matt comes
in the door and so that way wehear Matt's voice.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I've turned it on on my TV by accident before and it
took me like an hour to figurethat out.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yes, and so that when we hear matt's voice on my tv
by accident before it took melike an hour.
It's.
It's crazy.
Yes, if you don't want it thenit's very inconvenient, yeah,
but it really helped me in thewriting of this book actually
man would it ever?

Speaker 1 (45:51):
yeah, it makes sense, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
There's a lot of times when I was writing the
book where I was like, whatvisual information would a
reader need for this?
I was like, what's the right?
What's the video description ofthis scene?
And you just just very boringlybe like they're in a room.
It's like this is what the roomis, these are the people who
are there, and then go.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
So if you're still listening, writers, turn on your
accessibility tonight and getsome cool writing tips.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
It'll legitimately help you as a writer to absorb
accessible media.
Because closed captions shouldlook visually appealing as well.
It should be spaced out to beas easy easy to read as possible
.
Yeah, helped a lot.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Visual description gives you all the information
you need to enjoy a scene willhelp you a lot, so I have a
better place than like lunenburgto be able to like kind of
visually, like you know, likedialogue, visually kind of
express a town in lunenburg it'sbeautiful.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah, there's something to look at everywhere.
Yeah, absolutely everything'shistoric.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
It's a unesco yeah, whole town's unesco.
Yeah, right, it's, yeah, it's,uh, it's a must, must visit it's
beautiful, particularly in thesummertime, but anytime really.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, yeah, and there's a lot of, uh, a lot of
silly stuff about it too.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
I think everyone is just in awe when they see the
lunenberg academy for the firsttime yeah, and there's a scene
in the book that takes placethere and um the book launch.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I think probably will have happened by the time this
comes out, but it's going to bethere too.
When's the book launch?
June 12th that's thursday,that's thursday, the day of, so
this is, if you're listening,turn your car around, go
straight to the.
Ludenberg.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Academy.
Right now it's at 630, twonights.
There you go, okay, chapter 27.
Can I just say?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
the name of the title of this chapter.
Read any chapter allowed.
I titled every chapter and Iput a lot of work into making
them all fun.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Just because it made me smile, right.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
The back alley diddlers.
Yes, that's right In this bookthere is a.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
A lot of this book is about, like the music scene in
the old Ludenburg world Okay,where they they play thrash
fiddle instead of thrash metal,because it's the 1920s yes,
that's awesome and, and, and,and, and, and, and, and, and,
and, and and.
Tommy Diddler and his Diddlin'Fiddlers are a big band in the
social music scene in thisreality, and so they do appear

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later on in the book.
So, yes, read any chapter titlealoud and I'll explain it.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I was reading the back.
I just want to read this littlebit from the top of chapter two
.
Okay, Lunenburg is built on theside of a steep hill that
slopes into the harbor.
It's as if the town itself ispushing you into the water.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
That's a great sentence.
That sounds like something Iwould hear in a movie.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
That's such a great opening line.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
I was reading the back Before you showed up.
I was reading the back and theway I was reading, I was reading
it very movie voice-esque.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Please.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
And I was reading it like that was reading.
I was reading very like movievoice-esque please, and I was
reading it like that and I wasalmost like picturing the words,
like coming up almost like astar wars type of thing, you
know.
But I was thinking like likewritten old-timey kind of thing,
like you know, in black andwhite, old-timey, kind of like
scrolling up kind of thing, andthat's how I was reading it and
I know I'm gonna love this,because this is uh, this is
totally my style of reading.

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Totally my style of reading Liefor lie.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
So it's for grade six .
When a chapter ends on, this isthe end of the chapter.
I'm like yep.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, I could read that part for sure.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yes, there's a part where Maybe if you want to read
a part of the book.
Hey man, we've never done areading before.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I'll do exactly the part that you just said Rick
Angus Jr asked how do you knowso many people from Lockport?
Because Rick answered after adeep breath I'm from Lockport.
Everyone gasped.
If you were from Lunenburg andone of your good friends
revealed that, you would gasptoo, it would be a big enough

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cliffhanger to end a bookchapter on.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
That's awesome, perfect, yeah, that is awesome.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Have you ever I mean norm mcdonald were you a fan of
norm mcdonald?
Of course okay um, did you everget a chance to read the book
he wrote norm?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
mcdonald's memoir.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
No, it's on my list, man I tell you I I saw by
accident today again also.
I was.
I was scoping you out,obviously a little bit today for
this show, please.
I fell on your goodreads page.
What's funny about that is Icould actually see like 96 of
the books you read and you, Iwas.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I was, I was active on there for a while before I
thought I would be an author andI am like five stars and all
this and I was looking at yourrating.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
I'm like I wonder if this is one of the people he
gave a bad rating to.
So I was trying to see, becauseyou had like one low rating and
a bunch of I forget what itwould have been.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
I stopped it like I was really active on letterboxd
for a while okay, you're stuckin 2022.
Yes, I've been actively readingsince then, but I don't really
rate things anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Oh, it's hilarious, but but anyways no it's just
funny, but it was a door bookdude.
It's like he writes a memoirthat is totally anything but a
memoir the entire way throughand he's just trolling you page
for page and it is my absolutefavorite comedy read baby my
only.
The only sad thing for me isthat he never got a chance to do
the audiobook oh, I know,because it would have been.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
It would have been a favorite to listen to I'm hoping
to do an audiobook of this overthe summer, but it's like, as
it turns out, releasing a bookon its own is incredibly hard.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
So the audio one will have to wait.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
So are you booking a lot of shows around and stuff?
I'm doing my best.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
I'm doing my best.
I'm doing a lot of podcasts andstuff.
I'm hoping to go back toToronto at some point and do
some.
I've got the reading at June12th today as my launch.
I've got another one on August2nd in Port Medway.
Another one in the Le Havrebooks on August 12th and then
there'll be more throughouthoping to do some Halifax ones,

(51:41):
but it's like I live inLiverpool and that's the middle.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
But you have a partner that lives up here, or
something you said to me.
We're having some difficulties.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
We'll see if I still do.
By the time this airs, cut thatout.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Hot take.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, cool, but yeah, no, that's great man, and I
mean we might know a couple ofpodcasts you could get on.
You could get on.
I love to, my wheels areturning away for you.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
I was on 30 Minutes on High.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
That was the one, one of the first ones we were going
on.
A little bit earlier I said,geez, you'd be perfect on that
show.
They're great guys.
Yeah, I love those guys.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Well, Bryant used to be in this group called Bring
Back Swayzes that were inToronto.
Uh, yeah, go back with.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Holy smokes, yeah, yeah, no, that's cool yeah.
I was it was one of the guys Ithought right away I said, geez,
he'd be good on that show, andthen uh, yeah, anyways.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
But but we talked about that.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
After man, for sure, yeah, but I mean I I, Sean
Scarry, designed this cover.
He's a graphic designer basedout of Dayspring in rural Nova
Scotia.
I'm so proud of him.
I don't know if I'm able to sayso, but he is assistant art
director on the new season ofTrailer Park Boys and he's doing
the trades as assistant artdirector as well.
And his design business is just.

(53:01):
His eye is just fantastic.
He's the only guy who couldhave done this cover.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
I think it looks fantastic.
Yeah, I think it does too.
So I think it's eye-catchingand I think people, I think
through the tourist season, Ithink you won't have a problem
selling that book.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Fingers crossed Good luck.
I'll be at the Lunenberg CraftFestival as well.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Well, hey, whatever you got to do, right that's
awesome.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Yeah, I'll see you guys there.
Yeah, you probably won't.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
No, I'm just joking.
You might see us down.
My wife and I go down.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
No, my wife and I we love going and my son we love
going down to the South Shore.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
When's the Lunenburg Craft Festival?
Mid-july, mid-july, yeah, yeahI'll be doing the some of the
bridgewater farmers markets too,so, uh, I'll probably see it
down.
Oh yeah, for sure, I'll be sureto look out for it if I know
I'm coming, we're actually,we're going to my wife and i're
going to look in sun.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Are going to lunenburg this sunday actually.
Oh heck, yeah, what's going onthere?
The uh, the ovens is doing somesort of special family day,
beautiful yeah uh, hugelyrecommend rose bay general store
.
It's the best, so good, it isso cool.
Yeah, like so cool.
We we did gaff point uh just onmother's day.
Yeah, it's one of my wife's andlike I love it, but it's one of

(54:15):
my wife's favorite hikes tokind of do around.
So we did that on uh onmother's day and we stopped
there and what a gem in themiddle of nowhere so good.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
It used to just be, um, like an agency liquor store,
like it was like nothing butman, it is so cool.
It's a cafe now.
Yeah, the the pizza there isfantastic the way they did the
uh the liquor store there.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
It's like it's actually a truly nice liquor
store.
They have um all glass withwood framed like you it.
It looks like you're openinglike an.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
I don't know you're inside of it.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, like exactly it rules.
I will spout off about greatplaces on SoShore anytime.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Oh, yeah, they're great, so, yeah, so I, yeah, I
think, I think, yeah, you canget those into places and stuff
like that, get the eyes and so.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Brent, I'll be looking for your episode on 30
Minutes on Highway when it comesout.
I think those guys are a lot offun, so that should be an
interesting one.
Yeah, but I think we should getinto 10 questions.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Let's do 10 questions , all right.
I feel like this has been veryunstructured, and I hope that—
this is how it rolls man it'sall good, all right, that's us.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Okay, so 10 questions here.
Great Lunenburgerly, pleasepick it up in stores on June
12th.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Maybe in stores.
Link to my website.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I'll say Okay, definitely there Link will be in
this episode description.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
We'll help you buy it , Maybe on the Indigo website
too.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Maybe through Bryn's trunk, but we'll find it, we'll
find a way, okay.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Yeah, you'll have fun .

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Okay, cool it's just fun guys, alright awesome.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Let's get on to the questions here I'll do question
one what's the one thing youcan't live without?
These are deep questions.
I didn't mentally prepare youfor this.
One thing I can't love we'lltake it.

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But that was weak.
One word answer.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
I love one, all right no, but like, but like, I like
seriously love, love, you knowyeah, you're one of those people
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah you know Ijust like laughter, love living
well, there you go.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Funny, you say that I didn't get a chance.
I have a joke for you afterthis.
I didn't get a chance to saythis, but actually, uh kudos,
I'm putting out kind of a bookthat's warm and fun and good
natured.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Because that's not an easy thing to do.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yeah, that was something I kind of ran into
when I was trying to find apublisher was everybody was like
it's not really that sad yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Does anybody get murdered in it?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
That kind of thing and I love seeing good natured
energy, good-natured murder,good-natured energy.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
There could be some fun murders or fun murders.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
one of the two?

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Yeah, all right, question number two.
So outside of your book youcan't pick your book.
But other than that, what isyour favorite book?

Speaker 2 (56:58):
My true answer is not fun, but it is.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
The dictionary.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
It is the autobiography of Malcolm X.
X as told to alex haley is, Ithink, a essential read for
absolutely everybody tounderstand, just like life in
north america and uh, a reallyimportant story told straight
from the source, and I trulylove that book and reread it

(57:24):
great answer.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
yeah, great answer, all right.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
If you had the power to write in another language,
which would you choose?
That's a heavy question.
Thanks to Soheb for thatquestion Hieroglyphics.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Whoa, that's pretty much emojis.
Yeah, hieroglyphics, all right.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
That'd be cool, right , if I sent you a note and it
was like, hey, I'm gonna be alittle bit late.
Sorry, but it was like a bunchof eyeballs and cats.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
So quick with that.
I would have been like japan.
I would have done it.
I would have just melted onthat question.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Yeah, that's great okay, uh, question number four.
So in your story there are twofriends, yeah, uh, and elias and
angus jr.
Yes.
In the movie adaptation of yourbook, what actors would play
those friends?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
that's tough because I've picked as I was writing it.
I pictured it as like cartooncharacters more than real people
pick cartoon characters.
Okay, um, that's even betterokay, sure, the cartoon
character that I guess would be,I think, elias, would be played
by um bart simpson or dennisthe menace, I guess.
I want.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I wish I would have wrote bart simpson, because I
was going to give you bartsimpson as an example.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
It was bart simpson or dennis the menace, and then
angus jr would probably beplayed by um, a really nervous
character, um, I want to say nothuckleberry, um snagglepuss,
the guy's always biting hisfingernails.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Um okay, all right, yeah, I'm gonna say, snagglepuss
I was, I was gonna throw it a.
An obscure one, say like dougoh doug.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Doug is too sensitive .
Doug is good, but who is dougfrom doug for the titular doug?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I barely remember that His dog was Porkchop.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
He had a crush on Patty Mayonnaise.
I don't remember my brother'sbirthday, but I know that.
How old are you?
38.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
12.
No.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
I'm just joking.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
No, he was 12 when you watched Doug, so maybe that
one just missed me on the yearsthat's me with.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Pokemon, yeah that everybody loves it I can't stand
Pokemon.
No, when it came out I was likethat's for babies.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
They'll hear solid rules.
They'll hear solid yeah Awesome.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Question number five.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
All right.
What is something you still getexcited for?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
I'm really I'm excited for I get excited for
movies sometimes still I wasreally excited for the new um
mission impossible.
Last one was great, yeah.
Yeah didn't quite live up to myexcitement, but um was really
excited for the new finaldestination which ruled I think
when a new big movie comes out,I still did you see the new

(01:00:02):
final destination?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
so good, yet so good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Is it good it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
rules.
Yeah, it was like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I want to see it.
Oh my God, it's kind of acliche classic, whatever right.
It rules.
Yeah, it's like the openingscene where everybody dies or
whatever is just Is it the bestone yet?
Yeah, it's almost like one ofthe best movie scenes.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
It is so All right, but honestly name a more
memorable moment in moviehistory for people in our age
than the logs coming.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Everybody knows the log truck.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
This is comparable.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
I don't want to spoil it.
I'll say there are parts inthat movie where I was watching
through my fingers.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
We might go see it this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Go, okay, like it rules weekend, so go okay, like
it.
It rules all right.
Cool, okay, all right all rightquestion number six all right,
so, oh, I like this.
This is a yeah, this is a aninteresting book question, so
keep one, burn one oh, bookburning.
Okay, yeah, exactly yeahexactly, this is the bama

(01:01:03):
question, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Keep one or burn one?
It's not that kind of question.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I'm going to blow everyone's mind right now.
Don't care about either.
Burn them both, whoa.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Cheers to that, cheers to that, cheers to being
brave enough to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Dude, I couldn't read either one of those books.
And I'm not saying I'm not abig book reader, but I read, I
do read.
But I don't like it when ittakes like 25 minutes for you to
describe a ham sandwich.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
This is crazy.
I'm not a Wizards and Castlesand Dragons guy.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
I'm not big on that either.
I don't like it that much.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I do like science fiction.
I'm able to read sciencefiction Fair.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I'm wrong, everyone else loves it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Philip K Dick books were, I could read anything that
guy ever wrote I thought wascool and I could just page flip
non-stop.
But when it gets into the olderfantasies I can't get into it
at all, Any kind of fantasystuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I'm just kind of like Star Wars and stuff is
technically fantasy too, but Imean.
And even still, 90% of it doesnothing for me.
I'm more about give me thesemormon wives?

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
what is the drama between taylor and demian?
I haven't watched this morbidshow yet.
What's the show you'rereferring?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
there's mormon wives on disney secret lives of mormon
wives okay, so andrea'swatching it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Okay, I know she's watching it, I just kind of
leave the room like politely oh,you're missing some juice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Is this isn't good?
I like it.
Yeah, okay, I mean, they'rejust, they're trashy, you know I
grew up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Uh, I never thought like a mormon wife would be
trashy.
I guess that's not how they'retrashy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
They are trashy did you like, for me a big part of
growing up, a big tangent onyour rapid fire thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
But um, that's all good growing up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
For me, ultimate snow day, sick day starts with jerry
springer well, yeah, followedby either sally, jesse rafael or
ricky leg, and then we'regetting into jenny jones jenny
jones and maury poe, but like ohmy god that you just go in that
all that garbage.
Oh yeah, you loved it into myveins.

(01:03:07):
And the closest that we havenow are these reality shows, and
I would say that Mormon Wivesreally has the same kind of like
cruelty.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Like a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Springer Not quite.
We'll never have Springer again, man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Springer, springer was crazy.
They like a spring, not quite.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
we'll never have springer again, man, no, no,
springer, spring energy was like, well, let's bring them out and
then ring a boxing bell and twowomen punch each other.
Oh yeah, we'll never.
That's illegal now.
But I mean, jenny jones islegal now too, like jenny jones.
There was a guy named rude jude, yeah, who started on that show
as somebody where they werelike you used to bully me and
now I'm hot, and they broughthim on as the bully Right and he

(01:03:50):
bullied the guest so hard thatthe audience loved it and they
kept bringing him back to bullymore guests.
Isn't that insane.
You would never do that again.
Insane.
But the Mormon Wives kind ofcaptures that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Is it just that type of reality TV show that you like
, or do you like the game showtype of reality shows as well?

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I like it when somebody's like, when they're
like you shouldn't have gone onTV.
If you're going to go on TV,we're going to be really mean to
you and you're going to realizeit's going to get fucked up.
That's what you get I watchsome of the stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
I watch the Circle and I watch Love is Blind.
Yeah, but those are game shows.
And there's a new one I can'tremember the name of it, but
it's some sort of.
There's a wheel and they do allthese games and it's a bunch of
people who've already been onreality game shows.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
The Traitors.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
No, okay, but it's only had one season and so they
bring them all from differentshows.
They bring them back and anyway.
Basically, you play these gamesto try to get your name not on
the wheel, but in the end thewheel just spins and then, if
your name is picked, you're goneright.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
There's no voting or anything right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Super, catty super whatever yeah.
My wife was watching it.
I came in on, I think, episodethree where I was just like,
yeah, throw it on if you wantkind of thing.
Right, and I'll just dowhatever I can while I'm
watching it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Whatever, and uh, yeah to me if they're like,
really mean to each other.
If it's people who clearlydon't like one another, uh,
butting heads the whole time,there you go the mormon wives
one.
The end of the first episode isthis girl gets arrested and
then they're like cut to.
10 months later she's out ofjail and pregnant.

(01:05:27):
And I'm like I'm, in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
You might sell me on this show.
I might have to jump in on thisone.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Yeah, all right.
Question number seven, speakingof the end of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Okay.
So next question.
So you might like this as awriter.
If the earth is flat, what doyou think?
We're just theorizing.
The earth is flat, okay.
What do you think would happenwhen you reached the edge and
kept going?
So we could have the two LunaBurglary guys.
So this is the next chapter inthe book.
Now, it's Great, luna.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Burglary at the end of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
At world's end, at world's end Edge of the world?
What?
The world's end, the edge ofthe world.
What happens when you get there?
I think it's just a big mirror.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Oh, kind of like Truman Show.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Yeah, you get there and you just push on it and just
a great big mirror Maybethere's a closet behind the
mirror with some boxes in there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
I read a song meme where it said that if the earth
was flat, cats would haveknocked everything off by now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Okay, that's a good one, yeah okay, your turn.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Question number eight .
So what is the best thing andthe worst thing that's happened
to you this year, in 2025?

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
uh, best thing I guess would be getting this book
published.
That makes a lot of sense,congratulations.
Thank you very much.
Worst thing, um, probably notgoing to talk about on the air
that's what's happening uh,currently it's ongoing okay,
okay, Understood Ongoingrelationship drama that I

(01:07:07):
promised I wouldn't talk abouton air.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
No matter how many pints I had.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Okay, and number nine .
Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Oh yeah, is that me or didn't?

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
I just ask oh number nine is me, sorry.
Yeah, the Belgian moon isstrong.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Special double pint edition.
Double pint edition.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
What decade is the last century?
Oh, sorry Jesus, I can't evenread.
What decade in the last centurywould you like to live again?

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Ones that I have lived or ones that I could live
through.
If you could relive a decade,you could go back to your book,
your 1920s?

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Oh, I wouldn't do that Past, present or future.
It would be terrible, I'd sayin the future.
Or if you want to do past, Iwant to relive the 80s.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I would relive the 90s for sure.
I think everyone would.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
That's the easiest thing to do.
I mean, it's just like rightthere, it's right there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
It's awesome.
You just have a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Phones came out.
They just had a snake on them,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Everyone's nostalgic, you know what there for the
1890s, and he keeps botheringthe kids about it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
That's funny as hell.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Maybe I'll find a part to write about that.
But he says the chapter abouthim is called.
He Sings the Songs that RemindHim of the Better Times from Tub
Club.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
And he says it sounds like Chubb.
Yeah, he says, it sounds likeChub, yeah, he said okay, so
music today.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Fiener scoffed and then took a swig from a mason
jar full of dark rum.
It's nothing like it was backin the 90s.
I've been working on therailroad bicycle built for two
twinkle, twinkle little star.
Those were undeniable hits.
Music meant something back then.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
A song like Happy birthday meant it was somebody's
birthday.
That's awesome, that's greatridiculous book.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I love it.
Okay, uh, we're on to the lastquestion, brother.
Last question, this is ourtheme of the question.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
We ask everybody this question same question for
everybody, this one.
So what is one piece of advicethat you were given, that you
would like to give to us and ourlisteners?

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Nobody cares as much about what you're doing as you
do I love that.
So you think that everybodycares about your thing?
They don't really.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
You need to convince them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
That's the greatest answer.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
That's a great answer because, wow, that's so true,
so true, and it applies toeverything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Yeah, absolutely everything.
I forget who gave me thatadvice.
But just don't assume thatanyone cares about what you're
doing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
No, yeah or they're on that glass mirror on the
other side of the edge of theworld just watching and laughing
at you Just watching frombehind the glass on the other
side of the edge of the world,just watching, just watching and
laughing at you.
Right, yeah, and you'll never,meet them exactly.
All right, that's it.
Well, that's a somber note, butlet's cheers absolutely, I love
it.
Yeah, oh you're, you're alljumped into my glass.
Did you ever see that?
You ever?

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
see that, wow, okay, you.
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