March 31, 2025 • 65 mins
Andrew prefers the alias PigMonkey to his own name, and for good reason. Who would have thought a simple show he helped create would change the lives of people such as Cat Green, who is reviving the popular Geeks vs. Nerds s for a great cause. This episode covers, Superman, cancer survival, Klingons, autism, the history and challengers of Geeks vs. Nerds and much more.
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Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thank you All right Cheers, cheers, cheers.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Cheers.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Welcome to.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Morning Coffee Afternoon Fight Morning Coffee
edition.
I'm Mike Tobin.
I am Matt Conrad.
I to Morning Coffee AfternoonFight Morning Coffee edition.
I'm Mike Tobin, I am MattConrad.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm Kat Green.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm Pig Muggy, Pig Muggy Kat Green.
Who are you guys?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah Well, I am the organizer of the Geeks vs Nerds
reunion show and we arefundraising for patient
assistance at the QE2.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Awesome show and we are fundraising for patient
assistance at the qe2 awesome.
I am the creator and host andchief cook and bottle washer.
Cool, uh.
Previous previous to cat doingthe.
Uh.
The revival cat has has takenon a giant beast and tried to
(01:47):
tame it.
Myself and my other partner,john Roy, who we developed the
show originally, sat there andsaid are you sure about this?
You really know what you'redoing here, because it's a task.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And she said okay, okay, so I just heard the
revival and, pardon me, I don'tknow a ton about this.
So this is a show that you'rebringing back from the past or
kind of resurrecting, is thatright?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Geeks vs Nerds sort of developed in 2008 and 2009
and our first show was early2010, I think, or late 2009, and
we went to 2018 when we stopped.
When we were doing it.
(02:36):
We were doing it, uh, we weredoing six months.
So we do a show every month anddo two tapings, so we would
have an episode for every monthof the year.
But it was a live studiorecorded show which I mean I
(03:09):
loved it.
I would do it.
I enjoyed doing that bit, butit was.
It's a lot of work to run one ofthose shows To put something
like that together.
You've got the performers,you've got the technical side,
you've got to deal with thevenues, and then I have to be on
top of that stuff and I'm justnot that organized.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
OK, was this like a nationwide show, like was it
aired across Canada, or howcould you watch it?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Actually.
Well, it was a podcast.
I've been a.
I've been a podcaster from thetime that podcasts were called
audio and I really enjoyed doingpodcasts.
And when I came up with thisshow in my head, it was an audio
scripted show and I didn'treally want to try and curtail
(04:00):
my performers to a certainamount of time, so the only
place that really fits that wasaudio drama.
Also, nobody was going to teachme how to do any of that stuff,
so I had to learn it myself andjust do it so?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
so what's like a typical freaks versus geek show?
Look like if there's someonethat, oh my gosh, geeks versus
nerds sorry there you go.
Well, what's a typical showlike this look like if there's
someone that, oh my gosh, gigsfirst nerd.
Sorry there you go.
Well, what's the typical showlike this?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
look like, uh, when you're watching it that, uh yeah
, so it's a three-on-threedebate style.
Comedy is the main debate ofthe show, but leading into that
we will have several one-on-onedebates and these are quick
topics.
So, example, one of the onesthat's going to be in our
reunion show is Indiana Jonesversus River Song, so Big Doctor
(04:51):
who Indiana Jones fans willenjoy that.
Or, a little bit more unique,we've got corporate speak versus
90s slang.
So these will be the quick hits.
And then our and then our maindebate is three on three and
it's Steve Rogers versusJean-Luc Picard.
So basically OG, captainAmerica versus Captain Picard.
(05:14):
Which captain gave most fortheir cause?
So it within that framework,it's a comedy show and so we're
there to make people laugh andhave a good time.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
That's awesome.
Actually, I uh mike knows thisI kind of wanted to do something
really similar before I evenfound out what this was.
I want to do something reallysimilar, have like a little bit
of a fun debate show, like Ididn't want to do anything too
serious because you know, peopleget all crazy about that stuff
sometimes, right, uh, but picksome fun topics about what to
debate with uh, uh and I want tocall it bar fights, just with
(05:49):
the whole afternoon pint thing,kind of thing, right?
So I just wanted to call it barfights.
Like we have a long-standingmike and another mutual friend
of ours has a long-standing uh,argument, feud, whatever about
who would win between godzilla,between Godzilla and King Kong.
Mike's Team Godzilla.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
We solved that Godzilla.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Hey there you go, Mike.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, of course, thank you, sir.
I respect you.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Don't get me wrong King Kong, real monster, lacks
range, lacks the ability tobreathe underwater and lacks
range, so so can be hit from adistance and can be drowned.
Um, that is.
That is.
I mean those are two forms ofattacks that that king kong has
(06:39):
no response for, that godzillacan do just as a normal thing
that they already do there yougo, Mark, If Mark's listening we
brought in the experts you lose, I guess.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Who's again we?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
actually did the debate Godzilla versus Cthulhu.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yes, that's right, I heard that.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, and Godzilla came out on top of that one.
I don't think I agree with it.
I don't necessarily agree withit, but Godzilla did come out on
top for that one.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
The winners are determined by audience.
So basically, at the end of thedebate, pig Monkey turns it
around to them and asks whatthey think, and it's usually by
round of applause cheering byvolume of noise.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So I got to ask Pig monkey Either you grab this for
a particular reason or yourparents, like you know, thought
of something really not niceabout you as a baby.
So what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
You would be surprised how often I get asked
that question.
No, I probably wouldn't.
There are okay.
Well, first of all, why do onething when you can do a bunch of
things?
So Pig Monkey is my stage name.
It's also a.
(08:07):
I am a person with autism.
It makes it very hard to gaugehow people feel at any one point
in time.
When I introduced myself as PigMonkey, I got a clear read on
how that person was respondingto me and generally there are
(08:29):
only like four or five responses.
My favorite one is immediatelyalmost pretty common is I'll
shake their hand and call myselfPig Monkey and they'll say I
can't call you that.
I'm like that's fine, I'm coolwith that.
My name is andrew, you couldcall me andrew, but uh, I'm very
(08:52):
comfortable with pig monkey.
And they say, well, why wouldyou call yourself pig monkey?
And I said, well, reasons, uh,one of them is, uh, just being
who I am.
Uh, I got called a lot of namesgrowing up and I still do to a
(09:13):
certain degree.
Uh and uh, pig monkey takestheir power you cannot make you
cannot make fun of somebody whocan sit confidently and
comfortably in a name like PigMonkey.
Right, how are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
Cool, I like it.
It's.
(09:34):
That was one of them.
It's funny, I like to like.
Sometimes I get to see peoplelaugh right away.
I get to see a smile.
I get to people who can'thandle it will go away and I
won't cause them any issues Like.
One of one of the very commonreactions is laughter and then
an exit, right.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
They can't.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
They can't do it, they go.
I'm like, okay, well, it's nicemeeting you, right, it helps me
.
It helped me gauge people, andthat came from a time before I
actually knew I had autism.
Right, like I've had a lifetime.
I found out very, very like twoyears ago that I had autism.
(10:21):
Two years ago, so I had alifetime of building my own
strategies in order to make myway through a world that is I
got to ask you, Big Monkey, whatwas like so only two years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, I'm guessing you're around, You're just in
your 40s.
If you don't want me to sayjust 52, 52.
Ok, so what?
Like?
How did you learn you hadautism at that age?
Where were the signs?
Did you just?
We just see something onYouTube and just say, gee, I
really connect with that.
Or what happened?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
OK, one of our performers who is going to be on
stage for the reunion show,Christy Lee, said to me one day
you know what, for the reunionshow, Christy Lee said to me one
day you know what I thinkyou've got autism.
Because I read the issues and Iwent autism.
That's the dumbest fuckingthing I've heard in my life.
(11:17):
You are.
That is so stupid.
My mother, my mother, hasworked with people with autism
my whole life growing up.
Oh, wow, yeah, I understandpeople with autism.
People with autism were broughtinto my house.
My mother would care for themon a rotating basis.
(11:40):
I've been a tutor, I've beenfriends.
I'm a professional dungeonmaster.
I've run professional D&D gamesfor people with autism.
The idea that I have autism wasridiculous.
(12:00):
Yeah, I got tested and theysaid yeah, yeah, yeah, you
definitely have autism.
Um, it's hard to tell when youhave people who've gotten into
their, into their late agebecause they've developed so
many coping mechanisms to tomake their way through life.
(12:22):
But I mean, everybody's gottheir own struggles.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I'm not saying Does it make you feel a little bit
better, though, Just knowingsaying like okay, I identify now
that I have a couple challengesthat I know are in my life that
make sense of why I had certainchallenges growing up or
whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I grew up with these.
I was very aware that I hadthem, like it wasn't something
that surprised me or anything.
Um, I think, if anything, itwas okay, there's a reason.
That's good, we know.
We know there's a reason forwhy I'm doing the things we're
doing, but the honest issue withit is that I can't stop doing
(13:10):
it.
It's wound into my head, right.
I say the wrong thing, I makethe wrong face.
These are I respond to people'semotions in a non-standard way.
I find discomfort very funny.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Right, and that is.
I find other people'sdiscomfort incredibly funny, so
I have to remove myself or Ihave to know who I am.
Awkward situations and peoplegoing too far, like that's the
skit, and it's just that kind ofscenario in a million different
ways in a million differentenvironments.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I find it to see that that's my life so I'm told with
moms this he's made a show ofall time like I love I and, and
they've actually connected theshow to adhd.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
People with adhd love the obvious of this show and I
have that too.
And how weird and offsettingthe humor is.
Like there's a guy sitting atthe table that one is afraid
that the steering wheel in avehicle is going to fly out of a
window.
It makes no sense, but it'shilarious.
Uh just keeps doubling down onon this fear of bizarre I'm
(14:34):
being bizarre.
I, I love bizarre comedy and uhand you would like geeks versus
nerds my friend, you should goand listen to some of our
podcasts yeah, probably I'llcheck back to back to geeks
versus nerds, like yeah, how didthis kind of first get
conceived?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
like how are you guys just sitting around sitting
there, going like, hey, we liketo sit around in our room and
argue about who's better andwhat and all this stuff we
should just record.
This Is like that really whatit came down to.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Sort of I'm sorry.
I feel like I'm stealing a lotof Kat's time here.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
We'll get to Kat after this answer.
I got some questions for Kat.
Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, nostress Sort of.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
So do you guys remember Spike TV?
Yeah.
Do you remember the showGreatest Warrior?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, man, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I was watching Greatest Warrior one day and I
was sitting back in my chair andI'm watching this and I go.
You know this is cool, but Idon't really give a shit who
wins a fight between a ninja anda pirate.
I give a shit who wins a fightbetween a ninja and a pirate.
I give a shit who wins a fightbetween batman and boba fett.
And then I went oh my god, Iknow lots of people.
(15:45):
We've had these stupidarguments before.
I could just put it on stageand record it.
People would love it, becauseeverybody already has their own
opinion.
We could call it geekseks vsNerds.
Oh my god.
And that was it Two in a row.
And I'm like okay, that's, uh,that's, this has gotta happen.
So I had a lot of the skillsthat were required to do the
(16:12):
stage show.
I have the technical expertise.
I've done editing and Foley andlive shows, uh, for radio plays
.
I had, uh, most of theequipment.
I had a member.
I had a membership at afcoopand for that first year all we
did was go to afcoop and rent uhthe gear that we needed to do
(16:35):
to do the show for, like it was20 bucks or something like that
30 bucks, not I mean that firstyear, pretty rough recording,
especially in 2010.
But uh, there we started doingit at a time when it was the
(16:55):
beginning of the age of the geek.
We hit, we hit, we hit the uhstart time, perfectly for uh,
for the audience.
And then we stopped in 2018because I felt that was
definitely the age of the geekwas ending, people were tired
were you able to monetize theshow.
(17:16):
That was my kind of my last, uh,no no, no, I, I, I lost my ass
on that show.
Yeah, um, we tried to getadvertisers, we tried to see who
would do stuff.
Um, no, like, when we did getmoney, it went right back into
the show.
Myself and John Roy, we put alot of our own money into
(17:40):
keeping that show going and whenwe got to 2018, we both said,
well, we can't keep doing this.
And we were both pretty burnedout.
It was.
It's a lot of work to do that,year after year, creating the
arguments and having enoughpeople who want to argue that
that was a real issue later inthe seasons too, because we were
(18:04):
doing stuff that wasn'tnecessarily in the mainstream.
We were definitely sliding intogeek knowledge in very small
casks.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, very niche.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Very niche arguments in the later seasons which did
very well.
We had somebody who came to.
So you asked earlier if we wereacross Canada.
We actually had some recordedshows on Eastlink for a while
that went across Canada.
Well, one of our performers whowas with us in the first three
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seasons was moving to Vancouverand asked to take the show with
them to Vancouver.
So there was Geeks vs NerdsHalifax and Geeks vs Nerds
Vancouver, for I think they wentto 2019 and then they they
ended as well.
So we had two franchises andthey actually made money.
(19:05):
They had because they were inVancouver.
They're not in Halifax.
Halifax has a very smallpopulation, a very enthusiastic
and supportive population, butnot enough to turn this into a
uh, into an ongoing show, right?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
so so I gotta move this over to cat now hearing
what I just heard.
What in the world made youdecide to bring this thing back?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
well, I think that pig monkey has, like he's
talking about the breadth of ofthe experience, but from my
perspective, I started.
I saw my first geeks versusnerd show at hal con in 2011.
It was the second con ever andI was like, who are these people
on stage like arguing in such afunny way about these things?
(19:57):
And and I was I was attractedto it.
I had done improv in highschool, but throughout
university that kind of thingwas not my life.
I'd very quietly be like, ohyeah, I kind of like Star Trek,
whatever.
Who's Iron man?
He's cool.
But when I got to go to Halcon,I started meeting more people
with these kinds of pop cultureinterests.
I was really drawn to whatGeeks vs Nerds was doing and
(20:19):
after about a year of just goingto see the show where people
would line up outside the bar 45minutes an hour early, where
you would have over 100 people,you know, cramming into smaller
spaces to see the show, it wasvery popular.
I found the I don't knowboldness somewhere to be like,
hey, can I try and got involvedand I was involved until the end
(20:42):
and so from my perspective, itwas very popular.
We did basically all of themaritime provinces.
Is Newfoundland consideredmaritime?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
No, they're not, they're Atlantic.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So we did all the conventions at all the maritime
provinces like performingmultiple times, and went
together and yeah, we weren't amoneymaker but we got paid to go
perform at these conventions.
And then also personally, itwas a big part of my personal
growth, becoming morecomfortable with myself as a
queer person, making a ton offriends.
You know, pig mentioned, uhchristy.
(21:17):
Uh, I met her working on the,my first show with gvn.
She stood in my wedding acouple of years ago like we're
very close friends and and so Ihad cancer in uh, early 2020.
Uh, that sucked, um and andwhat kind of got me through
dealing with surgery and um Iwas just thinking yeah, time to
(21:41):
have cancer.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, I, I was yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I was diagnosed in january 2020 with cervical
cancer which my lost my motherto in 2011.
Um, so it was.
It was heavy.
I had just moved in with mythen boyfriend, now husband, and
so we were on lockdown as Iwent in for a hysterectomy, so
(22:06):
with six weeks of recovery time,right, we were there in a one
bedroom.
We had said let's get a onebedroom together because we'll
be out all the time doing coolthings and we'll be like North
End hipsters, because we'll beout all the time doing cool
things and we'll be like northon hipsters.
And so this happened.
But I was never really aloneeither, like I mean, he and I
weren't really alone eitherbecause of the friends that
would reach out, drop offpackages, you know, come say hi
(22:29):
while I was on my balcony andthey were down on the on the
lawn right, and most of thosefolks I met either directly or
indirectly because of geeksversus nerds amazing and yeah,
and so, as I, that was a reallyrough I would say year and a
half after that mental health itwas.
it was really really rough.
(22:49):
And what helped me pull out ofit was starting to think how I
might celebrate afterwards.
And, um, I come from a familyof like I had a religious
upbringing that I don't follownow, but there was a lot of that
love thy neighbor kind ofversion of Christianity, and so
it was like, okay, I'm going tocelebrate, like I thought I
(23:11):
could just throw a big party,but it felt right to give back.
And I found out about patientassistance programs at the QE2
and thought what a great way tohelp people out, because it's
stuff like gift cards, you know,for gas or food.
It's helping people who youknow illness has made their life
(23:31):
financially difficult.
It's helping them out and I'mso grateful that that wasn't a
concern for us.
You know, we we were fine, um,all through the, the lockdowns
and everything.
So it just started to grow asthis idea to combine the two and
what got me through life, whathelped me become, uh, you know,
a version of myself that I'mreally proud of today, was Geeks
(23:53):
vs Nerds.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He has a Geeks vs Nerds tattoo, which is something
that I have not succumbed toyes he did not support it either
.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
When I told him I was thinking about it, he said no,
and I showed up a month laterwith the.
I'm not going to flash you on acamera, but I've got the Geeks
vs Nerds logo on the right sideof my chest.
Because, it meant that much tome your life, though right and I
did.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I love hearing like I mean matt and I did halcon last
year and yeah, for the firsttime we went, yeah yeah, one of
our takeaways from it was like,I mean, it's so nice.
I mean we all get kind of feelvery lost and alone, even when
we like something sometimes andwe're like, okay, I like this.
But like you know, I mean mypartner at 10 years god love her
, she won't watch a marvel movieor it's gonna save her life,
right, I'm on my way to thoseand that's okay.
(24:41):
I have friends, thankfully,like marvel movies.
But as you get more intricateinto geekism or whatever you
want to call it or somethingthat you're truly passionate
about, it's so great to see, um,that there's so many people
right in your city with thoseexact same loves and deep
passions for something and aplace where you can all go.
And again, this, this show youguys are doing, I love the
(25:03):
concept of it.
I feel like I don't fit inanywhere, even in your, probably
even in on your show.
If I was on your show, I'm likeoh, I'm not.
I'm not geeky enough for thesegeeks.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Right I used to say like I'd say to my wife and when
we were watched because my wifewill watch marvel movies with
me, but you know she didn't readthe.
She read archie comics growingup, I read marvel and dc and
stuff.
So when I get into it likesometimes she'll she'll get into
it and she'll be like, oh, isthis how it goes in the comics?
Is this, whatever right, andshe'll get into it a little bit.
(25:34):
And I, honestly, I was like Iwas like, yeah, you know, even
though I grew up, you know,still liking sports and playing
sports, I had this geeky side tome, right, that liked Marvel
and things like that and I'dknow a lot about the details of
it.
And then I went to Halcon lastyear and I was like I am an
idiot, I know nothing.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
That's how I felt too .
I was like I just met my new II I want to politely push back
on that, partially because sincethat, since geeks versus nerds,
has has, uh, you know, since weended the show, I actually got
involved with halcon.
Now yeah, um there's somethingfor everyone, and the idea is
that we appreciate each other'spassions.
My husband, uh, I mean, yeah, Imarried a nerd and it's the
best thing ever, but he lovesanime.
(26:21):
I don't get it.
But, I love when he gets rollingand tells me all about what
he's enjoying, because I get tosee what he's excited about, and
then I do the same to him withsome of the things I'm into, and
then we're also into non-geekythings.
I think that everyone has hassomething.
There's been some geeks versusnerd debates that I signed up
for, but I didn't know what Iwas signing up for and just did
(26:44):
a little research.
I once signed up for a debaterelating to avatar and I thought
cool, you know, I neveractually watched that movie.
I'm finally going to sit downand watch it.
Then I looked closely at what Isigned up for.
It was avatar korra spinofffrom avatar last airbender, and
I was like oh, what is this?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I ended up watching a few episodes like this is
really neat.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, it was not the blue guys.
I have still not watched theblue guys um, yeah, you know
what you have.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It was probably just called pocahontas ah, yes yes,
what was, uh?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
what was that debate?
What, what?
What was Cora versus?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
That's a great question.
I don't remember I my love forgeeks versus nerds.
It's, it's so funny.
I don't remember most of thedebates that I did in any great
detail.
For me it's the community ofpeople.
Like the the reunion show, wehave 18 cast members and then
we've got five or six peoplethere's some crossover also
doing some behind the sceneswork on the show.
(27:39):
Um, you know, there's thefriend that's handling social
media.
Uh, john roy, that that pigmonkey mentioned is is doing our
technical side.
Got a couple of friends fromthe show working the door,
working the silent auction booth.
Um, you know, there's a lot offans coming back to see the show
as well as some friends thatare being supportive because
they know about my my journeythrough cancer and the mental
(28:02):
health struggles there and andso, yeah, I don't remember a lot
of the debates, but I rememberthe passion and the laughter and
that's why I want it so badlyto do this show.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Is this going to be just one show or are you guys
going to work on like a series?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
That's what I was wondering is also like are you
going to do it at halcon?
This is a one-time live onlyreunion.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Uh, you're not the first people to ask, but it's a
lot of work and, uh, I have bigmonkeys laughing in the corner.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I've yeah, I've said a lot of I've yeah, I've sent a
lot of oh, I'm so sorry, I hadno idea messages to Pig, monkey
and John, because the groupworking on this with us are
enthusiastic and funny and havegreat ideas, and it's about 25
people and it's like herdingcats, so I personally don't
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have-.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
They all have different ideas.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
We all have different ideas.
They all have different ideas,and all have different ideas.
They all have different ideas.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And you've got to take those ideas, filter through
them.
Let some of the ones that youdon't I'm not going to say
they're bad ideas, I'm justgoing to say that they don't fit
right now.
And then you have to let thosepeople down, nicely.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
And at the same time, swing around and say we're
going to take your idea, and sothere's a lot of, and they're
all our friends, yeah yes.
They're great people and wewant to go.
Oh, that's a great idea.
I want to use your idea, butjust can't.
It doesn't fit.
So when we did the originalshow, we ended up quite often
(29:39):
moving those ideas to next shows.
But since we've only got theone.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
So what I'm hearing is you, if halcon came knocking,
you, wouldn't do this once ayear just for halcon oh, that,
that wouldn't be up to me, uh,and in fact I would have to take
my I would.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
I would have to come knocking first, yeah and I would
have to take myself out of thatconversation because of my
involvement with halcon.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Now, yeah, but halcon would have to come knocking
first.
Like I, I'm not opposed, butI'm also not in any rush to do
that to myself again.
I was exhausted by the end.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
You have to understand.
This is the closest I've heardPigmonkey to even saying a yes.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
We'll squeeze it out of him.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Geeks vs Nerds was an amazing time, and sometimes
things belong where they belongIn their time.
In their.
But you know we're doing thisreunion show because there's
still an appetite for the show,for this type of show.
We've we've sold well, wellover 100 tickets now.
Um, we have auction supporters.
(30:52):
We've had enough raffle prizesdonated to do two what's the
show?
sorry sorry, the show is friday,april 4th it's in the mcginnis
room at the doll student unionnice um, and tickets are on
eventbrite we actually yeah,it's a friday night, so it's
going to be a great friday nightshow, which is the other reason
why I think it's great thatwe're doing it.
(31:13):
Just live right.
You have to be there to enjoyit, experience it and support
the QE2 patient assistanceprograms.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, yeah, so that's why we're doing it that way.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Are you guys going to film it or no?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
We've been talking about filming it.
Tech-wise it's not reallyfeasible, because the more well,
the more too the air.
Feasible, because the more well, the more too that we do, the
more we have to pay for.
The more we have to pay for,the less we're able to support
the charitable organization whenwe originally did geeks versus
nerds, uh, we used all of ourown equipment.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So part of bringing our show was using our equipment
.
But because we're like, I meanI still have all the equipment.
But the venues generally likeyou to use their equipment of
putting on the show, which meansthat you have to recover more
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from the ticket booth, whichmeans the more tech you have,
the greater the cost.
And if we could put somebody inthere with our own camera and
record it, yeah, maybe.
Or even audio, yeah, maybe,yeah, maybe, but it becomes at a
certain point financiallyunwieldy the bigger the show
(32:49):
gets, without any kind offinancing or backing or anything
so we could pay people.
Geeks vs Nerds was entirely runby volunteers and people who
put their own money into makingthe show work.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
And time, but it was also.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
We couldn't pay anyone, which was actually a
real Bummer.
I mean, there were great peopleon stage and we just never had
enough that we could give people.
Like like we could have paideverybody on stage 20 bucks for
(33:33):
the, for the shows that we werepaid for and the shows that we
(34:05):
were paid for that money went sooften.
If we paid everybody on stage20 bucks, that would have been
120 bucks, because I'm notpaying myself and that would
have been coming out of mine andJohn Roy's pocket because
bringing the show there waseither tickets sold or flat rate
for everybody to come in andthat usually covered travel or
other expenses right, becausewe're we're moving like uh, what
about 12 people?
Speaker 4 (34:18):
it was about 12 people when we, when we did an
away show.
Yeah, yes, yeah it's sointeresting.
You guys are getting in realtime, like a perspective that I
never considered as a castmember, because sure it would
have been nice, but I just sawit as a wonderful hobby with my
friends, and getting to go tofredericton on canada day
(34:40):
weekend to make people laugh andhit a couple bars I'd never
been to was a great time.
It was a great way for me.
I was in my, I was in my late20s and, uh, it was a great time
.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I loved it and.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I never considered awesome the idea of getting paid
.
It was just a passion projectand I and I really feel that
most, for most of the, if notall of the cast, it it was that
same thing and and it was aroving cast too it wasn't the
same folks every time.
So I remember we did a photo atour last monthly show where we
I think we had about 40 peoplein the photo and that wasn't
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everyone you know there was.
There was a large group to drawon for this reunion show and I
reached out to folks that Iparticularly wanted to celebrate
with.
But any number of of castmembers could, could do this
today and would be witty andsmart and funny and a little
strange in the best way possible, can you give me a bit of an
(35:35):
idea of maybe any of the debatesthat might be coming up?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
maybe at least one or the yes, yes, so so the ones I
mentioned earlier.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
The main debate will be, uh, john Luke Picard.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Okay, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Sorry, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
That's okay, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
You might not have known I was referring to this
show.
Uh, yeah, so John Luke Picard,uh, versus Steve Rogers.
Which captain has given morefor their cause?
I haven't had my coffee yetthis morning, or a pint.
And some of the two-minutedebates.
I'm doing one, I'm doing 90sslang versus corporate speak.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I'm on the side of 90s slang.
I love that.
That's a great.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
A couple of friends are doing Indiana Jones versus
River Song.
We've got Lego versus Minecraft, minecraft, yeah, and there's a
few more.
I'll leave it for the night.
Um, yeah, and then intermixedin there.
Uh, I should mention the doorprizes for the night um are two
weekend passes to halcon.
(36:36):
Those always sell out early, soI really appreciate my friends
at halcon for for those.
Yeah, um, we've got two raffleprizes, so the first raffle
prize is a pair of weekendpasses to the great outdoor
comedy festival along, along,yeah yeah, along with a night
free at the lord nelson oh cooluh, and then the other raffle
(36:59):
prize is two west jet vouchers,wherever west jet normally flies
really appreciative of those ofthose companies.
Yeah and and one thing that wewere able to secure uh, if I
could be a little proud for amoment is we do have a show
sponsor, which is arbora videcounseling um, because as you
can tell, mental health is allwrapped up into this.
Um everyone that does.
(37:20):
Jvn is a little nuts, he's alittle screwy, little screwy,
little screwy.
They're one of our supportersthrough sponsorship, and then we
have loads of silent auctionprizes too.
Those are the main ways thatwe're fundraising for the
patient assistance programs atthe QE2.
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I think this is beautiful, it's great, awesome,
this is all packed.
I think this is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, it's great, awesome.
This is all, pat.
I want to stress that Pat hasbeen at the front of this.
She has been the prow that iscutting the waves, because I've
given a bit of help and JohnRoy's given a bit of help.
(38:05):
But when Kat said she wanted todo this, both John Roy and I
kind of looked at each other andwent okay.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Look, a little naive optimism can go a long way.
And also I mean, yeah, I'll ownit that this was a passion for
me.
I really, really wanted to dothis and I really want it to do.
Well, uh, and I couldn't do itwithout the 25 or so people
behind me, you know, working onsocial media, working on design
and posts and slides, the folksthat are giving auction items,
(38:40):
um the like.
I said, we have a sponsor forthis show and all of the raffle
prizes, like, from myperspective, I'm trying to just
keep it all together in onebeautiful spreadsheet oh yeah
well all right, so yeah before Iwas gonna say we, uh, we, we do
have a rapid fire kind ofquestion how we end this show.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, so I don't know if you want to move into that
mike yeah, we do, I did want toask one final question related
to the show, and that is what isthe difference between a nerd
and a geek?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
oh, I get that one all the time yeah geeks sit on
the right, nerds sit on the leftyeah, there you go perfect it
could be.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
It could be red versus blue, it could be shirts
versus skins although it's notthat kind of show.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
There's a it's.
There's a good story to thatone, because I got that question
a lot in the first season.
Uh, like, in the first threeepisodes of this we got what is
a geek, what's the differencebetween a geek and a nerd?
And what I learned was, if youanswer those questions with a
(39:51):
definitive, solid answer, youare inviting debate.
But if you answer it withsomething completely subjective
like nerds sit on the right, orgeeks sit on the right, or geeks
sit on the right, nerds sit onthe left there's no room for
debate there.
So, uh, so that I've learned alot about arguing, uh, and I
(40:15):
knew quite a bit when I startedbecause I'm a geek.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Okay, you know what I have to make a comment here.
Pig Monkey, do you know thecomedian Louis Black?
Yeah, of course you have thecadence and mannerism of him,
but much calmer, not as angry.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Well, that's because I'm suppressing my anger.
It doesn't take a lot to set meoff.
I'm not a violent person, but Ilearned how to use my words
real well when I was young, sothank you.
I appreciate that.
Ever since that, that's a newone.
(40:53):
So thank you.
Usually, I got a lot of JohnCandy when I was younger.
Oh my gosh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Okay, yeah, matt, we're going to be hearing about
this one now, like the next timeall our friends are together,
we're going to be hearing aboutthis one now.
The next time all our friendsare together, we're going to be
hearing about Louis Black.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That's pretty cool, great comedian.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
He's got a point.
Whenever he's making his comedyhe's got a point.
I like that because people likeI have a weird sense of humor
in that.
I like non-sequiturs.
If you can throw a non-sequiturthat I can follow afterwards
(41:31):
like I see where you made thatconnection.
That connection is very funnyto me.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Like oh, I get it.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, I have my favorite joke.
I do some stand up.
My favorite joke that I'verecently written was I don't
know if this stand up thing isright for me, because I used to
tell dad jokes Then he left.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Nice, that's good oh no, as I mentioned, we do have a
therapist supporting the show.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
You guys are going to need a bigger team there isn't
enough therapy in this world tofit me into a box and we would
never try awesome all right, solet's go into our rapid fire
kind of questions, like wegenerally do, like 10 questions,
but because there's two of youand asking each of you 10
(42:33):
questions might be a lot kind ofthing, so we have.
We have five questions that Iput together plus our one
consistent one that we askeverybody.
We'll save that for the veryend.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
But um forward to find if we have time.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I'm throwing in something too after.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
After the question sure, yeah, well, did you want
to take it away with questionone there, mike?
Speaker 2 (42:52):
sure?
Um, okay, what do you think isone of the most like geek, lore
worthy series on television ofall time?
Like you know, if you were liketo go like any tv show, we'll
just stay tv, we'll stay out ofeverything else.
Like show that just has so muchlore to it and so much content
(43:13):
that like endless debates onwhat would be one of the best
shows I I've a quick answer anda longer answer.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
My quick answer star trek, because of how many series
there are, you know the breadthof it, the world building, uh,
and it's, and it's my, it's mything, it's where I originally,
you know, aligned with geekdom.
But I just finished theseverance season two finale last
night and that show has so manytheories and what ifs, and we
(43:40):
watched it too.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Last night, my partner and I watched.
It was amazing, right it.
My partner and I watched it.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
It was amazing, it's incredible, and I also find a
lot of people who don'tsubscribe to Geek love it too.
So I'm somewhere between StarTrek, but right now it's
Severance.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Severance is amazing.
I highly recommend that show,one of the best shows I've ever
seen.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Same Over to Pigmonkey.
My question is for whom?
Uh like, is it for geeks or fornon-geeks?
Because if you well, if youwant, uh like my mom for all her
(44:16):
for as much as I love her,thinks that, uh, big bang theory
.
That Big Bang Theory is one ofthe funniest things she's ever
seen in her life.
God love her.
Whereas I feel like it's nailson a chalkboard.
But if you literally knownothing about geekery, big Bang
(44:40):
Theory is a good stepping stone,but as long as you realize that
it is not geekery.
It is geekery as written byHollywood hacks.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Give me a show with good geekery, then how about
that?
I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Geekery done right.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I always felt Silicon Valley did a good job.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Am I wrong?
Yeah, I'd see.
I like the.
The issue for me is any showthat I'd pick confines your
knowledge to that show.
Which is why.
Which is why big bang theory issuch a great concept for people
who aren't geeks.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
It's the gateway drug to geekery is what you're
saying.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, yeah.
It's a good way to find stuffout, as long as you're not going
ha-ha.
Those nerds are so stupid theydon't understand anything, which
is generally the overwhelmingmessage in that show.
For a real show, I don't thinkyou could find anything on TV
(45:54):
that would be a great jumpingoff point or knowledge.
The thing about geeks is theyget hyper-focused on the thing
that's their geek right.
Whatever your geek is, they gethyper-focused on the thing
that's their geek right.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Whatever your geek is , you become hyper-focused on it
.
So I want to apologize.
Pig Monkey, you're notanswering the question.
So I know I'm going intradition of our show If you
don't answer the question, youjust have to take a little sip
of your drink, whatever you'redrinking, right?
So and we move on.
Okay, there we go, I would say.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
I would say I've got an answer.
I was.
I was working my way to ananswer.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
There was an answer there.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
These are quick hits, okay.
Well, then cut everything elseout and and just say youtube,
that's where you go cool.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
All right, I love that answer.
That's a great answer.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Good answer, good answer.
Here's question number two whowould win in a fight, the Borg
or the Kalon?
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Do you mean the Cylons, the?
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Borg.
The Kalon were the first alienspecies from Voyager.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Oh yeah, no, no.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
No, the Kalon is from the Orville, if you've ever
watched it.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Oh, they're living in .
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Vegas.
I love the Orville.
I'm embarrassed that.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
I thought you were talking about something else.
Yeah, me too.
I love the Orville.
I like the Orville more thanStar Trek actually.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
It's fun, the Borg.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
I'm on team Kalon man .
Speaker 4 (47:30):
The marrying of the biological with the technical.
I think would be ultimatelysuperior to Thank God, I'm
married because I don't get laidwhen I say things like that.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
The moment the Borg assimilated a Kalon, all of the
kalon's offense becomes, uh,pointless.
They know everything that thekalon know.
They have the kalon'stechnology.
They just take the best partand leave the rest in a crap
pile and vaporize the planetfrom orbit.
(48:02):
Like it's not really hard, thekalon die with a flashlight.
They don't even need weapons.
All they need to do is drop acouple of spotlights on their
city and I surrender you.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
that was a great answer, okay, how are you, mike?
Yeah, okay, okay.
This is a tough question toanswer too, I think.
So it's okay if you don't likethe question, but what's one of
the most scientifically accuratescience fiction?
We'll say movies.
Just keep it in the movie realm.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
From what I understand, Interstellar is up
there and it is one of myfavorite sci-fi movies of all
time.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
One of my favorites too, but you have something to
say.
Pig Monkey, let's go.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
I almost walked out of Interstellar Because they
told me it was.
It was real science and I'mlike you can't get that Fucking
close to a black hole Withoutturning into a strip of
spaghetti Like it.
Just that fucking close to ablack hole without turning into
a strip of spaghetti Like itjust frustrated the ever-loving
hell out of me.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Regardless, it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I would have to say.
I mean, you can pick holes inall kinds of science, but I
would say the Martian wasprobably the guy who wrote.
The Martian did a bunch ofscientific research.
And it's not 100%, but he wroteit on the fear that Neil
(49:38):
deGrasse Tyson was going to readit.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
That's my guy.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
He's my number one podcast.
Get that I want to get.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah, well, he uh uh, andy Weir.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
With the thought in mind that, uh, neil deGrasse
Tyson might read it, so hewanted to make it as accurate as
possible, so I'm going to gowith the Martian previous to any
Hollywood adaptation.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I'm definitely going with Wally on that one, Matt.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
What about?
Speaker 3 (50:16):
Terminator.
That's turning out to be kindof accurate.
We're getting there.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
We're getting there?
I hope not.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
So is Handmaid's Tale but we don't want to talk about
that, so is that one absolutelyquestion number four of these
four, who is the most powerfulwizard?
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Gandalf, dumbledore, doctor Strange or Merlin?
Speaker 4 (50:36):
that's a lot oh boy, that is outside of most of my
like interests.
Like I, like Doctor Strange alot but, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Gandalf is the soul of an angel, without any real.
That's why he can die and comeback.
He's the soul of an angel,potent in the world but just not
wielding the same kind of poweras all the other wizards in
(51:09):
story.
Uh, dumbledore, I don't know ahuge amount, I'm not really big
into his lore, but he seems likemore of an administrator than
he he's.
He's a forward thinker, notnecessarily powerful in wielding
(51:31):
combat and throwing fire, buthe has everything set ahead.
I'm going to skip DoctorStrange, because he's the most
powerful.
Merlin, who is the prototypicalwizard.
(51:52):
Everything that we basewizardry around is based off of
Merlin.
But you cannot really respect awizard who gets trapped in a
tree for 300 years.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
He told the woman how to trap him in a tree.
So he's, I mean, I like it, buthe didn't really.
Again, he didn't do anything.
He did illusions, he didglamour, he was a good planner
and a good talker, and then hegot trapped in a tree.
(52:29):
Strange brought time into adimension where it doesn't exist
, which is pretty much alteringreality, and none of them have
(52:52):
that altering reality thing thatDoctor Strange does.
Also, none of them have thelore that Doctor Strange does.
So it just makes more sense.
I can break anything down likeit I can break anything down
like this Listen, I agree withthat answer as well.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Alright, over to you, Mike.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
For what?
Oh the question.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Oh no, kat, just don't ask the answer.
Speaker 4 (53:15):
No, I mean really I agree, but when I was thinking
about Doctor Strange, it's justbecause I like him the most.
That's really where it was forme, yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
I just really enjoy his movies.
Probably biased.
For me too, All right.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Matt, I'm throwing one in here now.
All right, this is a debate.
Okay, I'm going to split thegroups, so I want to put Pig
Monkey and Matt together and I'mgoing to be on Kat's team, okay
?
Who would you pick to go upagainst Superman from the Marvel
(53:49):
Universe and win?
Knowing everything aboutSuperman, he's the almighty,
powerful, unbeatable dude, withthe kryptonite as his only
weakness.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Is this?
It Is that all of the criteria?
That's it.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
yeah, Leech with a 357 Magnum.
Who's?
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Leech.
He is an X-Man.
I don't think he's even grownup in the comics.
He was a child in the 90s whenI was reading them.
And his ability is tocompletely negate superpowers.
Oh, OK.
In fact, if you are withinrange of him, you lose all of
your superpowers.
(54:34):
But so Superman is now the manof flesh and then he's the man
of a hole in his head.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
OK, I'm going to poke at that just a little bit,
because I'm thinking likesuperpowers are kind of worldly.
Superman's not really.
He's from a planet Krypton.
So he's not superpowers, he'sjust a regular human or a
regular being from his own partof the world.
So leeches, no, he's not, he'sabsorbing.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
He's absorbing yellow star radiation.
Yep, if he absorbs red starradiation.
He's just a normal dude.
That's what.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
I was going to say so Artie, who's?
Speaker 1 (55:12):
he doesn't steal powers, he negates them.
They just stop working in hispresence, or not?
Artie, leach, artie speaks inpictures, leachach.
So Leach just negates powers inhis uh, in his area, and if he,
(55:34):
I I don't even think it takestouch.
But okay, do you like honestly?
Speaker 4 (55:40):
no, I mean honestly, you picked a terrible teammate
here.
Um, pig monkey's gonna alwaysovertake me in nerd knowledge.
I mean, like using marvel as anexample.
I'm obsessed with the mcumovies.
Never, never read the comicbooks, like my one comic book
guy is wolverine.
Um, but I did think about, uh,bruce banner and more so bruce
(56:01):
banneranner than Hulk because Ithought that there would
probably be a scientific way totake Superman down, perhaps to
create kryptonite within theMarvel universe if I have to
talk to big characters ratherthan like a sneaky thing, I'd go
with Doctor Strange, becauseDoctor strange can do magic and
(56:27):
superman has absolutely noresistance to magic.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
He's vulnerable to it .
Um, the reason why I pickedleech is because he's a child
and superman would not try tohurt him, even with super speed,
before he got into range ofbeing shot by a gun, whereas
Superman could high speed andtake out Dr Strange before it
(56:53):
ever became an issue All right,that's a total.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
I see, I would just.
I would have just picked, likeinfinity gauntlet Thanos, cause
he could have just madekryptonite and then it would
have been over.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
So yeah, okay, we'd have to know that Kryptonite
exists and it doesn't exist inthe Marvel Universe.
Speaker 4 (57:10):
Maybe that's why I would take it back to Banner,
because I think that if he hadthe opportunity to, he'd be able
to research, he'd be able tofigure out what makes Superman
tick.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Like Richard Pryor did Matt.
Speaker 4 (57:24):
Like Richard.
Speaker 3 (57:24):
Pryor did Matt, Like Richard Pryor did?
We were talking about this thisweek.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
We were talking about Superman.
3, like two days ago, yeah, oryesterday, yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Ah, skis and a baby, a pink baby blanket.
That's all I remember aboutSuperman 3.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
Yeah, I'm not a big Superman fan.
I actually I despise thatcharacter.
To be honest with you, I likeDoomsday solely because he
killed Superman.
He's too good.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
I like my character's little.
I like the Punisher.
I like those For me anyways,those more depressing
anti-heroes.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
I don't like bright, shiny, perfect boy flying in to
save the day I think for me I'vetalked to this before I like I
like um heroes who have greatvillains, and I don't feel like
superman has great villains,like his arch nemesis is a
regular businessman.
It's like it'd be like fightingjeff bezos.
So that's the, that's his archnemesis.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
I get it.
I get it.
However, I would say that hisarch nemesis can't like okay.
Originally he was a madscientist, but in the eighties
he became a businessman, andthat's when Lex Luthor stepped
ahead and became truly a visionbeyond, like the dangerous ones,
(58:48):
like Braini.
He became the president of theUnited States.
He beat Superman in a venuethat Superman can't compete.
(59:12):
That's what makes him, as avillain, brilliant, because he
knows that Superman is a walkingGod and he can't touch a
walking god, but you caninfluence his followers.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
This Andrew guy is hard to beat.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
I still don't like him.
I still don't like him.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
The thing is, I think about this stuff the second
amount.
I think about this stuff thesecond amount.
I think about Dungeons andDragons and role-playing games
the most, and I think aboutstuff like this after.
Speaker 4 (59:55):
And your partner's in there, somewhere around three
or four oh no, I think about hera lot.
Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I met her at a Geeks versus Nerds, so there you go
yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Cool, all right, matt .
Last question, my friend, Iguess.
Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Yeah, all right.
So last question would be thequestion that we ask everybody.
So that would be what is onepiece of advice that you were
given, that you know reallyimpacted you, that you would
like to share with us?
Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
I.
I have one, andrew, if you're apig monkey first, I'm one of
the people that took a long timecoming around to calling him
pig monkey.
I'm gonna I'm gonna admit that,but I never walked away.
Um, I was, uh, in university,feeling very overwhelmed, trying
to figure out my next steps inlife and trying to make some
grand plan, which does not work.
And a mentor said to me to dothe next right thing.
(01:00:53):
So don't think about some grandplan.
Think about what's in front ofyou right now, and and how you
can do the next right thing andI'm not saying I follow it 100%
of the time now and and how youcan do the next right thing and
I'm not saying I follow it 100of the time, but it was a really
good way to pull me back intomyself and what matters to me
and to just keep moving forwardthat's smart I love that, yeah,
I never heard it before, to behonest with you, it's really
(01:01:15):
great buddy of mine fromaustralia, so maybe maybe it's
more common there.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I like it.
Yeah, big monkey, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
The fact that you don't know how to do something
stop you from doing it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
I like that too.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Very true.
Yeah yeah, life is a skill andthe more that you practice that
skill, the better you get at it.
Now there are people who aretalented, who that skill is
easier for them to attain andthey will attain probably a
higher height of that skill thanyou will.
(01:01:55):
But that skill is not cut, isnot removed from you.
You can get that.
Just do it and fail, and whenyou fail, do it again and fail,
and do it again and fail, andthen third, fourth, fifth time
you're going to succeed.
(01:02:16):
Each time you do it, you do itagain and you don't do the
things that you did last time,and you will succeed.
You might not succeed as muchas you want to, but you will
have success.
It's a guarantee.
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
I love it.
Yeah, man, this is a lot of fun.
This is a very fun coffee, youknow.
Thank you so much, guys.
Cheers, yeah, and that's it.
That's the end of the show, sogo out and check out.
Maybe you can plug the show onelast time for us, kat.
Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Sure yeah.
So the Geeks vs Nerds reunionshow is on April 4th Tickets
available on Eventbrite and it'sgoing to be at the McGinnis
Room at the Dow Student Union.
Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Awesome.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
We really hope to see people there.
The show gets better the morepeople are there.
Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
And tickets are selling pretty quickly.
We sold out of our VIP passesin the first 24 hours.
Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
They are going All right cool.
Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Thanks again, guys, cheers, thank you, thank you.
I'm so glad to be here.
Thank you All right Cheers, cheers, cheers.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Cheers.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Welcome to.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Morning Coffee Afternoon Fight Morning Coffee
edition.
I'm Mike Tobin.
I am Matt Conrad.
I to Morning Coffee AfternoonFight Morning Coffee edition.
I'm Mike Tobin, I am MattConrad.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm Kat Green.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm Pig Muggy, Pig Muggy Kat Green.
Who are you guys?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah Well, I am the organizer of the Geeks vs Nerds
reunion show and we arefundraising for patient
assistance at the QE2.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Awesome show and we are fundraising for patient
assistance at the qe2 awesome.
I am the creator and host andchief cook and bottle washer.
Cool, uh.
Previous previous to cat doingthe.
Uh.
The revival cat has has takenon a giant beast and tried to
(01:47):
tame it.
Myself and my other partner,john Roy, who we developed the
show originally, sat there andsaid are you sure about this?
You really know what you'redoing here, because it's a task.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And she said okay, okay, so I just heard the
revival and, pardon me, I don'tknow a ton about this.
So this is a show that you'rebringing back from the past or
kind of resurrecting, is thatright?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Geeks vs Nerds sort of developed in 2008 and 2009
and our first show was early2010, I think, or late 2009, and
we went to 2018 when we stopped.
When we were doing it.
(02:36):
We were doing it, uh, we weredoing six months.
So we do a show every month anddo two tapings, so we would
have an episode for every monthof the year.
But it was a live studiorecorded show which I mean I
(03:09):
loved it.
I would do it.
I enjoyed doing that bit, butit was.
It's a lot of work to run one ofthose shows To put something
like that together.
You've got the performers,you've got the technical side,
you've got to deal with thevenues, and then I have to be on
top of that stuff and I'm justnot that organized.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
OK, was this like a nationwide show, like was it
aired across Canada, or howcould you watch it?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Actually.
Well, it was a podcast.
I've been a.
I've been a podcaster from thetime that podcasts were called
audio and I really enjoyed doingpodcasts.
And when I came up with thisshow in my head, it was an audio
scripted show and I didn'treally want to try and curtail
(04:00):
my performers to a certainamount of time, so the only
place that really fits that wasaudio drama.
Also, nobody was going to teachme how to do any of that stuff,
so I had to learn it myself andjust do it so?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
so what's like a typical freaks versus geek show?
Look like if there's someonethat, oh my gosh, geeks versus
nerds sorry there you go.
Well, what's a typical showlike this look like if there's
someone that, oh my gosh, gigsfirst nerd.
Sorry there you go.
Well, what's the typical showlike this?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
look like, uh, when you're watching it that, uh yeah
, so it's a three-on-threedebate style.
Comedy is the main debate ofthe show, but leading into that
we will have several one-on-onedebates and these are quick
topics.
So, example, one of the onesthat's going to be in our
reunion show is Indiana Jonesversus River Song, so Big Doctor
(04:51):
who Indiana Jones fans willenjoy that.
Or, a little bit more unique,we've got corporate speak versus
90s slang.
So these will be the quick hits.
And then our and then our maindebate is three on three and
it's Steve Rogers versusJean-Luc Picard.
So basically OG, captainAmerica versus Captain Picard.
(05:14):
Which captain gave most fortheir cause?
So it within that framework,it's a comedy show and so we're
there to make people laugh andhave a good time.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
That's awesome.
Actually, I uh mike knows thisI kind of wanted to do something
really similar before I evenfound out what this was.
I want to do something reallysimilar, have like a little bit
of a fun debate show, like Ididn't want to do anything too
serious because you know, peopleget all crazy about that stuff
sometimes, right, uh, but picksome fun topics about what to
debate with uh, uh and I want tocall it bar fights, just with
(05:49):
the whole afternoon pint thing,kind of thing, right?
So I just wanted to call it barfights.
Like we have a long-standingmike and another mutual friend
of ours has a long-standing uh,argument, feud, whatever about
who would win between godzilla,between Godzilla and King Kong.
Mike's Team Godzilla.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
We solved that Godzilla.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Hey there you go, Mike.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, of course, thank you, sir.
I respect you.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Don't get me wrong King Kong, real monster, lacks
range, lacks the ability tobreathe underwater and lacks
range, so so can be hit from adistance and can be drowned.
Um, that is.
That is.
I mean those are two forms ofattacks that that king kong has
(06:39):
no response for, that godzillacan do just as a normal thing
that they already do there yougo, Mark, If Mark's listening we
brought in the experts you lose, I guess.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Who's again we?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
actually did the debate Godzilla versus Cthulhu.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yes, that's right, I heard that.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, and Godzilla came out on top of that one.
I don't think I agree with it.
I don't necessarily agree withit, but Godzilla did come out on
top for that one.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
The winners are determined by audience.
So basically, at the end of thedebate, pig Monkey turns it
around to them and asks whatthey think, and it's usually by
round of applause cheering byvolume of noise.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So I got to ask Pig monkey Either you grab this for
a particular reason or yourparents, like you know, thought
of something really not niceabout you as a baby.
So what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
You would be surprised how often I get asked
that question.
No, I probably wouldn't.
There are okay.
Well, first of all, why do onething when you can do a bunch of
things?
So Pig Monkey is my stage name.
It's also a.
(08:07):
I am a person with autism.
It makes it very hard to gaugehow people feel at any one point
in time.
When I introduced myself as PigMonkey, I got a clear read on
how that person was respondingto me and generally there are
(08:29):
only like four or five responses.
My favorite one is immediatelyalmost pretty common is I'll
shake their hand and call myselfPig Monkey and they'll say I
can't call you that.
I'm like that's fine, I'm coolwith that.
My name is andrew, you couldcall me andrew, but uh, I'm very
(08:52):
comfortable with pig monkey.
And they say, well, why wouldyou call yourself pig monkey?
And I said, well, reasons, uh,one of them is, uh, just being
who I am.
Uh, I got called a lot of namesgrowing up and I still do to a
(09:13):
certain degree.
Uh and uh, pig monkey takestheir power you cannot make you
cannot make fun of somebody whocan sit confidently and
comfortably in a name like PigMonkey.
Right, how are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
Cool, I like it.
It's.
(09:34):
That was one of them.
It's funny, I like to like.
Sometimes I get to see peoplelaugh right away.
I get to see a smile.
I get to people who can'thandle it will go away and I
won't cause them any issues Like.
One of one of the very commonreactions is laughter and then
an exit, right.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
They can't.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
They can't do it, they go.
I'm like, okay, well, it's nicemeeting you, right, it helps me
.
It helped me gauge people, andthat came from a time before I
actually knew I had autism.
Right, like I've had a lifetime.
I found out very, very like twoyears ago that I had autism.
(10:21):
Two years ago, so I had alifetime of building my own
strategies in order to make myway through a world that is I
got to ask you, Big Monkey, whatwas like so only two years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, I'm guessing you're around, You're just in
your 40s.
If you don't want me to sayjust 52, 52.
Ok, so what?
Like?
How did you learn you hadautism at that age?
Where were the signs?
Did you just?
We just see something onYouTube and just say, gee, I
really connect with that.
Or what happened?
Speaker 1 (10:54):
OK, one of our performers who is going to be on
stage for the reunion show,Christy Lee, said to me one day
you know what, for the reunionshow, Christy Lee said to me one
day you know what I thinkyou've got autism.
Because I read the issues and Iwent autism.
That's the dumbest fuckingthing I've heard in my life.
(11:17):
You are.
That is so stupid.
My mother, my mother, hasworked with people with autism
my whole life growing up.
Oh, wow, yeah, I understandpeople with autism.
People with autism were broughtinto my house.
My mother would care for themon a rotating basis.
(11:40):
I've been a tutor, I've beenfriends.
I'm a professional dungeonmaster.
I've run professional D&D gamesfor people with autism.
The idea that I have autism wasridiculous.
(12:00):
Yeah, I got tested and theysaid yeah, yeah, yeah, you
definitely have autism.
Um, it's hard to tell when youhave people who've gotten into
their, into their late agebecause they've developed so
many coping mechanisms to tomake their way through life.
(12:22):
But I mean, everybody's gottheir own struggles.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I'm not saying Does it make you feel a little bit
better, though, Just knowingsaying like okay, I identify now
that I have a couple challengesthat I know are in my life that
make sense of why I had certainchallenges growing up or
whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I grew up with these.
I was very aware that I hadthem, like it wasn't something
that surprised me or anything.
Um, I think, if anything, itwas okay, there's a reason.
That's good, we know.
We know there's a reason forwhy I'm doing the things we're
doing, but the honest issue withit is that I can't stop doing
(13:10):
it.
It's wound into my head, right.
I say the wrong thing, I makethe wrong face.
These are I respond to people'semotions in a non-standard way.
I find discomfort very funny.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Right, and that is.
I find other people'sdiscomfort incredibly funny, so
I have to remove myself or Ihave to know who I am.
Awkward situations and peoplegoing too far, like that's the
skit, and it's just that kind ofscenario in a million different
ways in a million differentenvironments.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I find it to see that that's my life so I'm told with
moms this he's made a show ofall time like I love I and, and
they've actually connected theshow to adhd.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
People with adhd love the obvious of this show and I
have that too.
And how weird and offsettingthe humor is.
Like there's a guy sitting atthe table that one is afraid
that the steering wheel in avehicle is going to fly out of a
window.
It makes no sense, but it'shilarious.
Uh just keeps doubling down onon this fear of bizarre I'm
(14:34):
being bizarre.
I, I love bizarre comedy and uhand you would like geeks versus
nerds my friend, you should goand listen to some of our
podcasts yeah, probably I'llcheck back to back to geeks
versus nerds, like yeah, how didthis kind of first get
conceived?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
like how are you guys just sitting around sitting
there, going like, hey, we liketo sit around in our room and
argue about who's better andwhat and all this stuff we
should just record.
This Is like that really whatit came down to.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Sort of I'm sorry.
I feel like I'm stealing a lotof Kat's time here.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
We'll get to Kat after this answer.
I got some questions for Kat.
Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, nostress Sort of.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
So do you guys remember Spike TV?
Yeah.
Do you remember the showGreatest Warrior?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, man, yeah, yeah so.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I was watching Greatest Warrior one day and I
was sitting back in my chair andI'm watching this and I go.
You know this is cool, but Idon't really give a shit who
wins a fight between a ninja anda pirate.
I give a shit who wins a fightbetween a ninja and a pirate.
I give a shit who wins a fightbetween batman and boba fett.
And then I went oh my god, Iknow lots of people.
(15:45):
We've had these stupidarguments before.
I could just put it on stageand record it.
People would love it, becauseeverybody already has their own
opinion.
We could call it geekseks vsNerds.
Oh my god.
And that was it Two in a row.
And I'm like okay, that's, uh,that's, this has gotta happen.
So I had a lot of the skillsthat were required to do the
(16:12):
stage show.
I have the technical expertise.
I've done editing and Foley andlive shows, uh, for radio plays
.
I had, uh, most of theequipment.
I had a member.
I had a membership at afcoopand for that first year all we
did was go to afcoop and rent uhthe gear that we needed to do
(16:35):
to do the show for, like it was20 bucks or something like that
30 bucks, not I mean that firstyear, pretty rough recording,
especially in 2010.
But uh, there we started doingit at a time when it was the
(16:55):
beginning of the age of the geek.
We hit, we hit, we hit the uhstart time, perfectly for uh,
for the audience.
And then we stopped in 2018because I felt that was
definitely the age of the geekwas ending, people were tired
were you able to monetize theshow.
(17:16):
That was my kind of my last, uh,no no, no, I, I, I lost my ass
on that show.
Yeah, um, we tried to getadvertisers, we tried to see who
would do stuff.
Um, no, like, when we did getmoney, it went right back into
the show.
Myself and John Roy, we put alot of our own money into
(17:40):
keeping that show going and whenwe got to 2018, we both said,
well, we can't keep doing this.
And we were both pretty burnedout.
It was.
It's a lot of work to do that,year after year, creating the
arguments and having enoughpeople who want to argue that
that was a real issue later inthe seasons too, because we were
(18:04):
doing stuff that wasn'tnecessarily in the mainstream.
We were definitely sliding intogeek knowledge in very small
casks.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, very niche.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Very niche arguments in the later seasons which did
very well.
We had somebody who came to.
So you asked earlier if we wereacross Canada.
We actually had some recordedshows on Eastlink for a while
that went across Canada.
Well, one of our performers whowas with us in the first three
(18:42):
seasons was moving to Vancouverand asked to take the show with
them to Vancouver.
So there was Geeks vs NerdsHalifax and Geeks vs Nerds
Vancouver, for I think they wentto 2019 and then they they
ended as well.
So we had two franchises andthey actually made money.
(19:05):
They had because they were inVancouver.
They're not in Halifax.
Halifax has a very smallpopulation, a very enthusiastic
and supportive population, butnot enough to turn this into a
uh, into an ongoing show, right?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
so so I gotta move this over to cat now hearing
what I just heard.
What in the world made youdecide to bring this thing back?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
well, I think that pig monkey has, like he's
talking about the breadth of ofthe experience, but from my
perspective, I started.
I saw my first geeks versusnerd show at hal con in 2011.
It was the second con ever andI was like, who are these people
on stage like arguing in such afunny way about these things?
(19:57):
And and I was I was attractedto it.
I had done improv in highschool, but throughout
university that kind of thingwas not my life.
I'd very quietly be like, ohyeah, I kind of like Star Trek,
whatever.
Who's Iron man?
He's cool.
But when I got to go to Halcon,I started meeting more people
with these kinds of pop cultureinterests.
I was really drawn to whatGeeks vs Nerds was doing and
(20:19):
after about a year of just goingto see the show where people
would line up outside the bar 45minutes an hour early, where
you would have over 100 people,you know, cramming into smaller
spaces to see the show, it wasvery popular.
I found the I don't knowboldness somewhere to be like,
hey, can I try and got involvedand I was involved until the end
(20:42):
and so from my perspective, itwas very popular.
We did basically all of themaritime provinces.
Is Newfoundland consideredmaritime?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
No, they're not, they're Atlantic.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
So we did all the conventions at all the maritime
provinces like performingmultiple times, and went
together and yeah, we weren't amoneymaker but we got paid to go
perform at these conventions.
And then also personally, itwas a big part of my personal
growth, becoming morecomfortable with myself as a
queer person, making a ton offriends.
You know, pig mentioned, uhchristy.
(21:17):
Uh, I met her working on the,my first show with gvn.
She stood in my wedding acouple of years ago like we're
very close friends and and so Ihad cancer in uh, early 2020.
Uh, that sucked, um and andwhat kind of got me through
dealing with surgery and um Iwas just thinking yeah, time to
(21:41):
have cancer.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, I, I was yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I was diagnosed in january 2020 with cervical
cancer which my lost my motherto in 2011.
Um, so it was.
It was heavy.
I had just moved in with mythen boyfriend, now husband, and
so we were on lockdown as Iwent in for a hysterectomy, so
(22:06):
with six weeks of recovery time,right, we were there in a one
bedroom.
We had said let's get a onebedroom together because we'll
be out all the time doing coolthings and we'll be like North
End hipsters, because we'll beout all the time doing cool
things and we'll be like northon hipsters.
And so this happened.
But I was never really aloneeither, like I mean, he and I
weren't really alone eitherbecause of the friends that
would reach out, drop offpackages, you know, come say hi
(22:29):
while I was on my balcony andthey were down on the on the
lawn right, and most of thosefolks I met either directly or
indirectly because of geeksversus nerds amazing and yeah,
and so, as I, that was a reallyrough I would say year and a
half after that mental health itwas.
it was really really rough.
(22:49):
And what helped me pull out ofit was starting to think how I
might celebrate afterwards.
And, um, I come from a familyof like I had a religious
upbringing that I don't follownow, but there was a lot of that
love thy neighbor kind ofversion of Christianity, and so
it was like, okay, I'm going tocelebrate, like I thought I
(23:11):
could just throw a big party,but it felt right to give back.
And I found out about patientassistance programs at the QE2
and thought what a great way tohelp people out, because it's
stuff like gift cards, you know,for gas or food.
It's helping people who youknow illness has made their life
(23:31):
financially difficult.
It's helping them out and I'mso grateful that that wasn't a
concern for us.
You know, we we were fine, um,all through the, the lockdowns
and everything.
So it just started to grow asthis idea to combine the two and
what got me through life, whathelped me become, uh, you know,
a version of myself that I'mreally proud of today, was Geeks
(23:53):
vs Nerds.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
He has a Geeks vs Nerds tattoo, which is something
that I have not succumbed toyes he did not support it either
.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
When I told him I was thinking about it, he said no,
and I showed up a month laterwith the.
I'm not going to flash you on acamera, but I've got the Geeks
vs Nerds logo on the right sideof my chest.
Because, it meant that much tome your life, though right and I
did.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I love hearing like I mean matt and I did halcon last
year and yeah, for the firsttime we went, yeah yeah, one of
our takeaways from it was like,I mean, it's so nice.
I mean we all get kind of feelvery lost and alone, even when
we like something sometimes andwe're like, okay, I like this.
But like you know, I mean mypartner at 10 years god love her
, she won't watch a marvel movieor it's gonna save her life,
right, I'm on my way to thoseand that's okay.
(24:41):
I have friends, thankfully,like marvel movies.
But as you get more intricateinto geekism or whatever you
want to call it or somethingthat you're truly passionate
about, it's so great to see, um,that there's so many people
right in your city with thoseexact same loves and deep
passions for something and aplace where you can all go.
And again, this, this show youguys are doing, I love the
(25:03):
concept of it.
I feel like I don't fit inanywhere, even in your, probably
even in on your show.
If I was on your show, I'm likeoh, I'm not.
I'm not geeky enough for thesegeeks.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Right I used to say like I'd say to my wife and when
we were watched because my wifewill watch marvel movies with
me, but you know she didn't readthe.
She read archie comics growingup, I read marvel and dc and
stuff.
So when I get into it likesometimes she'll she'll get into
it and she'll be like, oh, isthis how it goes in the comics?
Is this, whatever right, andshe'll get into it a little bit.
(25:34):
And I, honestly, I was like Iwas like, yeah, you know, even
though I grew up, you know,still liking sports and playing
sports, I had this geeky side tome, right, that liked Marvel
and things like that and I'dknow a lot about the details of
it.
And then I went to Halcon lastyear and I was like I am an
idiot, I know nothing.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
That's how I felt too .
I was like I just met my new II I want to politely push back
on that, partially because sincethat, since geeks versus nerds,
has has, uh, you know, since weended the show, I actually got
involved with halcon.
Now yeah, um there's somethingfor everyone, and the idea is
that we appreciate each other'spassions.
My husband, uh, I mean, yeah, Imarried a nerd and it's the
best thing ever, but he lovesanime.
(26:21):
I don't get it.
But, I love when he gets rollingand tells me all about what
he's enjoying, because I get tosee what he's excited about, and
then I do the same to him withsome of the things I'm into, and
then we're also into non-geekythings.
I think that everyone has hassomething.
There's been some geeks versusnerd debates that I signed up
for, but I didn't know what Iwas signing up for and just did
(26:44):
a little research.
I once signed up for a debaterelating to avatar and I thought
cool, you know, I neveractually watched that movie.
I'm finally going to sit downand watch it.
Then I looked closely at what Isigned up for.
It was avatar korra spinofffrom avatar last airbender, and
I was like oh, what is this?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I ended up watching a few episodes like this is
really neat.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, it was not the blue guys.
I have still not watched theblue guys um, yeah, you know
what you have.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It was probably just called pocahontas ah, yes yes,
what was, uh?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
what was that debate?
What, what?
What was Cora versus?
Speaker 4 (27:17):
That's a great question.
I don't remember I my love forgeeks versus nerds.
It's, it's so funny.
I don't remember most of thedebates that I did in any great
detail.
For me it's the community ofpeople.
Like the the reunion show, wehave 18 cast members and then
we've got five or six peoplethere's some crossover also
doing some behind the sceneswork on the show.
(27:39):
Um, you know, there's thefriend that's handling social
media.
Uh, john roy, that that pigmonkey mentioned is is doing our
technical side.
Got a couple of friends fromthe show working the door,
working the silent auction booth.
Um, you know, there's a lot offans coming back to see the show
as well as some friends thatare being supportive because
they know about my my journeythrough cancer and the mental
(28:02):
health struggles there and andso, yeah, I don't remember a lot
of the debates, but I rememberthe passion and the laughter and
that's why I want it so badlyto do this show.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Is this going to be just one show or are you guys
going to work on like a series?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
That's what I was wondering is also like are you
going to do it at halcon?
This is a one-time live onlyreunion.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Uh, you're not the first people to ask, but it's a
lot of work and, uh, I have bigmonkeys laughing in the corner.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I've yeah, I've said a lot of I've yeah, I've sent a
lot of oh, I'm so sorry, I hadno idea messages to Pig, monkey
and John, because the groupworking on this with us are
enthusiastic and funny and havegreat ideas, and it's about 25
people and it's like herdingcats, so I personally don't
(28:53):
have-.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
They all have different ideas.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
We all have different ideas.
They all have different ideas,and all have different ideas.
They all have different ideas.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And you've got to take those ideas, filter through
them.
Let some of the ones that youdon't I'm not going to say
they're bad ideas, I'm justgoing to say that they don't fit
right now.
And then you have to let thosepeople down, nicely.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
And at the same time, swing around and say we're
going to take your idea, and sothere's a lot of, and they're
all our friends, yeah yes.
They're great people and wewant to go.
Oh, that's a great idea.
I want to use your idea, butjust can't.
It doesn't fit.
So when we did the originalshow, we ended up quite often
(29:39):
moving those ideas to next shows.
But since we've only got theone.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
So what I'm hearing is you, if halcon came knocking,
you, wouldn't do this once ayear just for halcon oh, that,
that wouldn't be up to me, uh,and in fact I would have to take
my I would.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
I would have to come knocking first, yeah and I would
have to take myself out of thatconversation because of my
involvement with halcon.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Now, yeah, but halcon would have to come knocking
first.
Like I, I'm not opposed, butI'm also not in any rush to do
that to myself again.
I was exhausted by the end.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
You have to understand.
This is the closest I've heardPigmonkey to even saying a yes.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
We'll squeeze it out of him.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Geeks vs Nerds was an amazing time, and sometimes
things belong where they belongIn their time.
In their.
But you know we're doing thisreunion show because there's
still an appetite for the show,for this type of show.
We've we've sold well, wellover 100 tickets now.
Um, we have auction supporters.
(30:52):
We've had enough raffle prizesdonated to do two what's the
show?
sorry sorry, the show is friday,april 4th it's in the mcginnis
room at the doll student unionnice um, and tickets are on
eventbrite we actually yeah,it's a friday night, so it's
going to be a great friday nightshow, which is the other reason
why I think it's great thatwe're doing it.
(31:13):
Just live right.
You have to be there to enjoyit, experience it and support
the QE2 patient assistanceprograms.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, yeah, so that's why we're doing it that way.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Are you guys going to film it or no?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
We've been talking about filming it.
Tech-wise it's not reallyfeasible, because the more well,
the more too the air.
Feasible, because the more well, the more too that we do, the
more we have to pay for.
The more we have to pay for,the less we're able to support
the charitable organization whenwe originally did geeks versus
nerds, uh, we used all of ourown equipment.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So part of bringing our show was using our equipment
.
But because we're like, I meanI still have all the equipment.
But the venues generally likeyou to use their equipment of
putting on the show, which meansthat you have to recover more
(32:21):
from the ticket booth, whichmeans the more tech you have,
the greater the cost.
And if we could put somebody inthere with our own camera and
record it, yeah, maybe.
Or even audio, yeah, maybe,yeah, maybe, but it becomes at a
certain point financiallyunwieldy the bigger the show
(32:49):
gets, without any kind offinancing or backing or anything
so we could pay people.
Geeks vs Nerds was entirely runby volunteers and people who
put their own money into makingthe show work.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
And time, but it was also.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
We couldn't pay anyone, which was actually a
real Bummer.
I mean, there were great peopleon stage and we just never had
enough that we could give people.
Like like we could have paideverybody on stage 20 bucks for
(33:33):
the, for the shows that we werepaid for and the shows that we
(34:05):
were paid for that money went sooften.
If we paid everybody on stage20 bucks, that would have been
120 bucks, because I'm notpaying myself and that would
have been coming out of mine andJohn Roy's pocket because
bringing the show there waseither tickets sold or flat rate
for everybody to come in andthat usually covered travel or
other expenses right, becausewe're we're moving like uh, what
about 12 people?
Speaker 4 (34:18):
it was about 12 people when we, when we did an
away show.
Yeah, yes, yeah it's sointeresting.
You guys are getting in realtime, like a perspective that I
never considered as a castmember, because sure it would
have been nice, but I just sawit as a wonderful hobby with my
friends, and getting to go tofredericton on canada day
(34:40):
weekend to make people laugh andhit a couple bars I'd never
been to was a great time.
It was a great way for me.
I was in my, I was in my late20s and, uh, it was a great time
.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I loved it and.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I never considered awesome the idea of getting paid
.
It was just a passion projectand I and I really feel that
most, for most of the, if notall of the cast, it it was that
same thing and and it was aroving cast too it wasn't the
same folks every time.
So I remember we did a photo atour last monthly show where we
I think we had about 40 peoplein the photo and that wasn't
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everyone you know there was.
There was a large group to drawon for this reunion show and I
reached out to folks that Iparticularly wanted to celebrate
with.
But any number of of castmembers could, could do this
today and would be witty andsmart and funny and a little
strange in the best way possible, can you give me a bit of an
(35:35):
idea of maybe any of the debatesthat might be coming up?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
maybe at least one or the yes, yes, so so the ones I
mentioned earlier.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
The main debate will be, uh, john Luke Picard.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Okay, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Sorry, yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
That's okay, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
You might not have known I was referring to this
show.
Uh, yeah, so John Luke Picard,uh, versus Steve Rogers.
Which captain has given morefor their cause?
I haven't had my coffee yetthis morning, or a pint.
And some of the two-minutedebates.
I'm doing one, I'm doing 90sslang versus corporate speak.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
I'm on the side of 90s slang.
I love that.
That's a great.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
A couple of friends are doing Indiana Jones versus
River Song.
We've got Lego versus Minecraft, minecraft, yeah, and there's a
few more.
I'll leave it for the night.
Um, yeah, and then intermixedin there.
Uh, I should mention the doorprizes for the night um are two
weekend passes to halcon.
(36:36):
Those always sell out early, soI really appreciate my friends
at halcon for for those.
Yeah, um, we've got two raffleprizes, so the first raffle
prize is a pair of weekendpasses to the great outdoor
comedy festival along, along,yeah yeah, along with a night
free at the lord nelson oh cooluh, and then the other raffle
(36:59):
prize is two west jet vouchers,wherever west jet normally flies
really appreciative of those ofthose companies.
Yeah and and one thing that wewere able to secure uh, if I
could be a little proud for amoment is we do have a show
sponsor, which is arbora videcounseling um, because as you
can tell, mental health is allwrapped up into this.
Um everyone that does.
(37:20):
Jvn is a little nuts, he's alittle screwy, little screwy,
little screwy.
They're one of our supportersthrough sponsorship, and then we
have loads of silent auctionprizes too.
Those are the main ways thatwe're fundraising for the
patient assistance programs atthe QE2.
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I think this is beautiful, it's great, awesome,
this is all packed.
I think this is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, it's great, awesome.
This is all, pat.
I want to stress that Pat hasbeen at the front of this.
She has been the prow that iscutting the waves, because I've
given a bit of help and JohnRoy's given a bit of help.
(38:05):
But when Kat said she wanted todo this, both John Roy and I
kind of looked at each other andwent okay.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Look, a little naive optimism can go a long way.
And also I mean, yeah, I'll ownit that this was a passion for
me.
I really, really wanted to dothis and I really want it to do.
Well, uh, and I couldn't do itwithout the 25 or so people
behind me, you know, working onsocial media, working on design
and posts and slides, the folksthat are giving auction items,
(38:40):
um the like.
I said, we have a sponsor forthis show and all of the raffle
prizes, like, from myperspective, I'm trying to just
keep it all together in onebeautiful spreadsheet oh yeah
well all right, so yeah before Iwas gonna say we, uh, we, we do
have a rapid fire kind ofquestion how we end this show.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, so I don't know if you want to move into that
mike yeah, we do, I did want toask one final question related
to the show, and that is what isthe difference between a nerd
and a geek?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
oh, I get that one all the time yeah geeks sit on
the right, nerds sit on the leftyeah, there you go perfect it
could be.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
It could be red versus blue, it could be shirts
versus skins although it's notthat kind of show.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
There's a it's.
There's a good story to thatone, because I got that question
a lot in the first season.
Uh, like, in the first threeepisodes of this we got what is
a geek, what's the differencebetween a geek and a nerd?
And what I learned was, if youanswer those questions with a
(39:51):
definitive, solid answer, youare inviting debate.
But if you answer it withsomething completely subjective
like nerds sit on the right, orgeeks sit on the right, or geeks
sit on the right, nerds sit onthe left there's no room for
debate there.
So, uh, so that I've learned alot about arguing, uh, and I
(40:15):
knew quite a bit when I startedbecause I'm a geek.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Okay, you know what I have to make a comment here.
Pig Monkey, do you know thecomedian Louis Black?
Yeah, of course you have thecadence and mannerism of him,
but much calmer, not as angry.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Well, that's because I'm suppressing my anger.
It doesn't take a lot to set meoff.
I'm not a violent person, but Ilearned how to use my words
real well when I was young, sothank you.
I appreciate that.
Ever since that, that's a newone.
(40:53):
So thank you.
Usually, I got a lot of JohnCandy when I was younger.
Oh my gosh, yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Okay, yeah, matt, we're going to be hearing about
this one now, like the next timeall our friends are together,
we're going to be hearing aboutthis one now.
The next time all our friendsare together, we're going to be
hearing about Louis Black.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
That's pretty cool, great comedian.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
He's got a point.
Whenever he's making his comedyhe's got a point.
I like that because people likeI have a weird sense of humor
in that.
I like non-sequiturs.
If you can throw a non-sequiturthat I can follow afterwards
(41:31):
like I see where you made thatconnection.
That connection is very funnyto me.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Like oh, I get it.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah, I have my favorite joke.
I do some stand up.
My favorite joke that I'verecently written was I don't
know if this stand up thing isright for me, because I used to
tell dad jokes Then he left.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Nice, that's good oh no, as I mentioned, we do have a
therapist supporting the show.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
You guys are going to need a bigger team there isn't
enough therapy in this world tofit me into a box and we would
never try awesome all right, solet's go into our rapid fire
kind of questions, like wegenerally do, like 10 questions,
but because there's two of youand asking each of you 10
(42:33):
questions might be a lot kind ofthing, so we have.
We have five questions that Iput together plus our one
consistent one that we askeverybody.
We'll save that for the veryend.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
But um forward to find if we have time.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I'm throwing in something too after.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
After the question sure, yeah, well, did you want
to take it away with questionone there, mike?
Speaker 2 (42:52):
sure?
Um, okay, what do you think isone of the most like geek, lore
worthy series on television ofall time?
Like you know, if you were liketo go like any tv show, we'll
just stay tv, we'll stay out ofeverything else.
Like show that just has so muchlore to it and so much content
(43:13):
that like endless debates onwhat would be one of the best
shows I I've a quick answer anda longer answer.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
My quick answer star trek, because of how many series
there are, you know the breadthof it, the world building, uh,
and it's, and it's my, it's mything, it's where I originally,
you know, aligned with geekdom.
But I just finished theseverance season two finale last
night and that show has so manytheories and what ifs, and we
(43:40):
watched it too.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Last night, my partner and I watched.
It was amazing, right it.
My partner and I watched it.
Speaker 4 (43:43):
It was amazing, it's incredible, and I also find a
lot of people who don'tsubscribe to Geek love it too.
So I'm somewhere between StarTrek, but right now it's
Severance.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Severance is amazing.
I highly recommend that show,one of the best shows I've ever
seen.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Same Over to Pigmonkey.
My question is for whom?
Uh like, is it for geeks or fornon-geeks?
Because if you well, if youwant, uh like my mom for all her
(44:16):
for as much as I love her,thinks that, uh, big bang theory
.
That Big Bang Theory is one ofthe funniest things she's ever
seen in her life.
God love her.
Whereas I feel like it's nailson a chalkboard.
But if you literally knownothing about geekery, big Bang
(44:40):
Theory is a good stepping stone,but as long as you realize that
it is not geekery.
It is geekery as written byHollywood hacks.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Give me a show with good geekery, then how about
that?
I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Geekery done right.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I always felt Silicon Valley did a good job.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Am I wrong?
Yeah, I'd see.
I like the.
The issue for me is any showthat I'd pick confines your
knowledge to that show.
Which is why.
Which is why big bang theory issuch a great concept for people
who aren't geeks.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
It's the gateway drug to geekery is what you're
saying.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, yeah.
It's a good way to find stuffout, as long as you're not going
ha-ha.
Those nerds are so stupid theydon't understand anything, which
is generally the overwhelmingmessage in that show.
For a real show, I don't thinkyou could find anything on TV
(45:54):
that would be a great jumpingoff point or knowledge.
The thing about geeks is theyget hyper-focused on the thing
that's their geek right.
Whatever your geek is, they gethyper-focused on the thing
that's their geek right.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Whatever your geek is , you become hyper-focused on it
.
So I want to apologize.
Pig Monkey, you're notanswering the question.
So I know I'm going intradition of our show If you
don't answer the question, youjust have to take a little sip
of your drink, whatever you'redrinking, right?
So and we move on.
Okay, there we go, I would say.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
I would say I've got an answer.
I was.
I was working my way to ananswer.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
There was an answer there.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
These are quick hits, okay.
Well, then cut everything elseout and and just say youtube,
that's where you go cool.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
All right, I love that answer.
That's a great answer.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Good answer, good answer.
Here's question number two whowould win in a fight, the Borg
or the Kalon?
Speaker 4 (46:53):
Do you mean the Cylons, the?
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Borg.
The Kalon were the first alienspecies from Voyager.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Oh yeah, no, no.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
No, the Kalon is from the Orville, if you've ever
watched it.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Oh, they're living in .
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Vegas.
I love the Orville.
I'm embarrassed that.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
I thought you were talking about something else.
Yeah, me too.
I love the Orville.
I like the Orville more thanStar Trek actually.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
It's fun, the Borg.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
I'm on team Kalon man .
Speaker 4 (47:30):
The marrying of the biological with the technical.
I think would be ultimatelysuperior to Thank God, I'm
married because I don't get laidwhen I say things like that.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
The moment the Borg assimilated a Kalon, all of the
kalon's offense becomes, uh,pointless.
They know everything that thekalon know.
They have the kalon'stechnology.
They just take the best partand leave the rest in a crap
pile and vaporize the planetfrom orbit.
(48:02):
Like it's not really hard, thekalon die with a flashlight.
They don't even need weapons.
All they need to do is drop acouple of spotlights on their
city and I surrender you.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
that was a great answer, okay, how are you, mike?
Yeah, okay, okay.
This is a tough question toanswer too, I think.
So it's okay if you don't likethe question, but what's one of
the most scientifically accuratescience fiction?
We'll say movies.
Just keep it in the movie realm.
Speaker 4 (48:41):
From what I understand, Interstellar is up
there and it is one of myfavorite sci-fi movies of all
time.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
One of my favorites too, but you have something to
say.
Pig Monkey, let's go.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
I almost walked out of Interstellar Because they
told me it was.
It was real science and I'mlike you can't get that Fucking
close to a black hole Withoutturning into a strip of
spaghetti Like it.
Just that fucking close to ablack hole without turning into
a strip of spaghetti Like itjust frustrated the ever-loving
hell out of me.
Speaker 4 (49:10):
Regardless, it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I would have to say.
I mean, you can pick holes inall kinds of science, but I
would say the Martian wasprobably the guy who wrote.
The Martian did a bunch ofscientific research.
And it's not 100%, but he wroteit on the fear that Neil
(49:38):
deGrasse Tyson was going to readit.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
That's my guy.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
He's my number one podcast.
Get that I want to get.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah, well, he uh uh, andy Weir.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
With the thought in mind that, uh, neil deGrasse
Tyson might read it, so hewanted to make it as accurate as
possible, so I'm going to gowith the Martian previous to any
Hollywood adaptation.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I'm definitely going with Wally on that one, Matt.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
What about?
Speaker 3 (50:16):
Terminator.
That's turning out to be kindof accurate.
We're getting there.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
We're getting there?
I hope not.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
So is Handmaid's Tale but we don't want to talk about
that, so is that one absolutelyquestion number four of these
four, who is the most powerfulwizard?
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Gandalf, dumbledore, doctor Strange or Merlin?
Speaker 4 (50:36):
that's a lot oh boy, that is outside of most of my
like interests.
Like I, like Doctor Strange alot but, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Gandalf is the soul of an angel, without any real.
That's why he can die and comeback.
He's the soul of an angel,potent in the world but just not
wielding the same kind of poweras all the other wizards in
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story.
Uh, dumbledore, I don't know ahuge amount, I'm not really big
into his lore, but he seems likemore of an administrator than
he he's.
He's a forward thinker, notnecessarily powerful in wielding
(51:31):
combat and throwing fire, buthe has everything set ahead.
I'm going to skip DoctorStrange, because he's the most
powerful.
Merlin, who is the prototypicalwizard.
(51:52):
Everything that we basewizardry around is based off of
Merlin.
But you cannot really respect awizard who gets trapped in a
tree for 300 years.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
He told the woman how to trap him in a tree.
So he's, I mean, I like it, buthe didn't really.
Again, he didn't do anything.
He did illusions, he didglamour, he was a good planner
and a good talker, and then hegot trapped in a tree.
(52:29):
Strange brought time into adimension where it doesn't exist
, which is pretty much alteringreality, and none of them have
(52:52):
that altering reality thing thatDoctor Strange does.
Also, none of them have thelore that Doctor Strange does.
So it just makes more sense.
I can break anything down likeit I can break anything down
like this Listen, I agree withthat answer as well.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Alright, over to you, Mike.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
For what?
Oh the question.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Oh no, kat, just don't ask the answer.
Speaker 4 (53:15):
No, I mean really I agree, but when I was thinking
about Doctor Strange, it's justbecause I like him the most.
That's really where it was forme, yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
I just really enjoy his movies.
Probably biased.
For me too, All right.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Matt, I'm throwing one in here now.
All right, this is a debate.
Okay, I'm going to split thegroups, so I want to put Pig
Monkey and Matt together and I'mgoing to be on Kat's team, okay
?
Who would you pick to go upagainst Superman from the Marvel
(53:49):
Universe and win?
Knowing everything aboutSuperman, he's the almighty,
powerful, unbeatable dude, withthe kryptonite as his only
weakness.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Is this?
It Is that all of the criteria?
That's it.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
yeah, Leech with a 357 Magnum.
Who's?
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Leech.
He is an X-Man.
I don't think he's even grownup in the comics.
He was a child in the 90s whenI was reading them.
And his ability is tocompletely negate superpowers.
Oh, OK.
In fact, if you are withinrange of him, you lose all of
your superpowers.
(54:34):
But so Superman is now the manof flesh and then he's the man
of a hole in his head.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
OK, I'm going to poke at that just a little bit,
because I'm thinking likesuperpowers are kind of worldly.
Superman's not really.
He's from a planet Krypton.
So he's not superpowers, he'sjust a regular human or a
regular being from his own partof the world.
So leeches, no, he's not, he'sabsorbing.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
He's absorbing yellow star radiation.
Yep, if he absorbs red starradiation.
He's just a normal dude.
That's what.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
I was going to say so Artie, who's?
Speaker 1 (55:12):
he doesn't steal powers, he negates them.
They just stop working in hispresence, or not?
Artie, leach, artie speaks inpictures, leachach.
So Leach just negates powers inhis uh, in his area, and if he,
(55:34):
I I don't even think it takestouch.
But okay, do you like honestly?
Speaker 4 (55:40):
no, I mean honestly, you picked a terrible teammate
here.
Um, pig monkey's gonna alwaysovertake me in nerd knowledge.
I mean, like using marvel as anexample.
I'm obsessed with the mcumovies.
Never, never read the comicbooks, like my one comic book
guy is wolverine.
Um, but I did think about, uh,bruce banner and more so bruce
(56:01):
banneranner than Hulk because Ithought that there would
probably be a scientific way totake Superman down, perhaps to
create kryptonite within theMarvel universe if I have to
talk to big characters ratherthan like a sneaky thing, I'd go
with Doctor Strange, becauseDoctor strange can do magic and
(56:27):
superman has absolutely noresistance to magic.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
He's vulnerable to it .
Um, the reason why I pickedleech is because he's a child
and superman would not try tohurt him, even with super speed,
before he got into range ofbeing shot by a gun, whereas
Superman could high speed andtake out Dr Strange before it
(56:53):
ever became an issue All right,that's a total.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
I see, I would just.
I would have just picked, likeinfinity gauntlet Thanos, cause
he could have just madekryptonite and then it would
have been over.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
So yeah, okay, we'd have to know that Kryptonite
exists and it doesn't exist inthe Marvel Universe.
Speaker 4 (57:10):
Maybe that's why I would take it back to Banner,
because I think that if he hadthe opportunity to, he'd be able
to research, he'd be able tofigure out what makes Superman
tick.
Speaker 2 (57:22):
Like Richard Pryor did Matt.
Speaker 4 (57:24):
Like Richard.
Speaker 3 (57:24):
Pryor did Matt, Like Richard Pryor did?
We were talking about this thisweek.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
We were talking about Superman.
3, like two days ago, yeah, oryesterday, yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Ah, skis and a baby, a pink baby blanket.
That's all I remember aboutSuperman 3.
Speaker 3 (57:38):
Yeah, I'm not a big Superman fan.
I actually I despise thatcharacter.
To be honest with you, I likeDoomsday solely because he
killed Superman.
He's too good.
Speaker 4 (57:51):
I like my character's little.
I like the Punisher.
I like those For me anyways,those more depressing
anti-heroes.
Speaker 3 (58:00):
I don't like bright, shiny, perfect boy flying in to
save the day I think for me I'vetalked to this before I like I
like um heroes who have greatvillains, and I don't feel like
superman has great villains,like his arch nemesis is a
regular businessman.
It's like it'd be like fightingjeff bezos.
So that's the, that's his archnemesis.
Speaker 1 (58:23):
I get it.
I get it.
However, I would say that hisarch nemesis can't like okay.
Originally he was a madscientist, but in the eighties
he became a businessman, andthat's when Lex Luthor stepped
ahead and became truly a visionbeyond, like the dangerous ones,
(58:48):
like Braini.
He became the president of theUnited States.
He beat Superman in a venuethat Superman can't compete.
(59:12):
That's what makes him, as avillain, brilliant, because he
knows that Superman is a walkingGod and he can't touch a
walking god, but you caninfluence his followers.
Speaker 2 (59:33):
This Andrew guy is hard to beat.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
I still don't like him.
I still don't like him.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
The thing is, I think about this stuff the second
amount.
I think about this stuff thesecond amount.
I think about Dungeons andDragons and role-playing games
the most, and I think aboutstuff like this after.
Speaker 4 (59:55):
And your partner's in there, somewhere around three
or four oh no, I think about hera lot.
Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I met her at a Geeks versus Nerds, so there you go
yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Cool, all right, matt .
Last question, my friend, Iguess.
Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Yeah, all right.
So last question would be thequestion that we ask everybody.
So that would be what is onepiece of advice that you were
given, that you know reallyimpacted you, that you would
like to share with us?
Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
I.
I have one, andrew, if you're apig monkey first, I'm one of
the people that took a long timecoming around to calling him
pig monkey.
I'm gonna I'm gonna admit that,but I never walked away.
Um, I was, uh, in university,feeling very overwhelmed, trying
to figure out my next steps inlife and trying to make some
grand plan, which does not work.
And a mentor said to me to dothe next right thing.
(01:00:53):
So don't think about some grandplan.
Think about what's in front ofyou right now, and and how you
can do the next right thing andI'm not saying I follow it 100%
of the time now and and how youcan do the next right thing and
I'm not saying I follow it 100of the time, but it was a really
good way to pull me back intomyself and what matters to me
and to just keep moving forwardthat's smart I love that, yeah,
I never heard it before, to behonest with you, it's really
(01:01:15):
great buddy of mine fromaustralia, so maybe maybe it's
more common there.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I like it.
Yeah, big monkey, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
The fact that you don't know how to do something
stop you from doing it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
I like that too.
Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Very true.
Yeah yeah, life is a skill andthe more that you practice that
skill, the better you get at it.
Now there are people who aretalented, who that skill is
easier for them to attain andthey will attain probably a
higher height of that skill thanyou will.
(01:01:55):
But that skill is not cut, isnot removed from you.
You can get that.
Just do it and fail, and whenyou fail, do it again and fail,
and do it again and fail, andthen third, fourth, fifth time
you're going to succeed.
(01:02:16):
Each time you do it, you do itagain and you don't do the
things that you did last time,and you will succeed.
You might not succeed as muchas you want to, but you will
have success.
It's a guarantee.
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
I love it.
Yeah, man, this is a lot of fun.
This is a very fun coffee, youknow.
Thank you so much, guys.
Cheers, yeah, and that's it.
That's the end of the show, sogo out and check out.
Maybe you can plug the show onelast time for us, kat.
Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Sure yeah.
So the Geeks vs Nerds reunionshow is on April 4th Tickets
available on Eventbrite and it'sgoing to be at the McGinnis
Room at the Dow Student Union.
Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Awesome.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
We really hope to see people there.
The show gets better the morepeople are there.
Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
And tickets are selling pretty quickly.
We sold out of our VIP passesin the first 24 hours.
Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
They are going All right cool.
Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Thanks again, guys, cheers, thank you, thank you.
I'm so glad to be here.
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