Derrick Bona & Rick Horsman - A weight loss journey in losing over 250lbs and the fitness trainer who had his back. - Afternoon Pint

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Speaker 4 (00:19):
Cheers.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Just a fat guy who's friends with Arnold
Schwarzenegger.
Well, that's pretty cool thatyou're friends with Arnold
Schwarzenegger, so maybe startwith that.
How the heck does ArnoldSchwarzenegger know who you are?
A guy in Gold Harbor.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I'm still waiting on my Christmas card.
I must have got lost with thestrike and everything, I guess.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Just you know, I was on Twitter one day and I posted
a photo of me I'm on a weightloss journey here and, you know,
trying to get skinny.
But I posted just an updatedphoto just to a couple of people
that knew about it and usuallysix people see my tweets and all
of a sudden it went viral andnext thing, you know, arnold
Schwarzenegger, you know, seenit and retweeted with a

(01:00):
personalized message and therest of it has been history.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's life changing.
Right, that's pretty awesome.
Yeah, and uh, that's so.
I was late to the party, asalways, and uh, so I thought it
was six months ago.
My 600 pound life was your.
Was your tiktok handle, right?
600 pound journey, 600 poundjourney story and uh, you lost
how many pounds.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
I mean from where you started, where you at now so I
started, uh, we're gonnaestimate it was 600, 600 plus,
but you couldn't really uhdidn't really know because there
was no scale around big enoughto weigh me.
But uh, as of right now, amonth, actually three weeks shy
of uh, two years yeah, two yearsI'm 240 pounds down somewhere

(01:41):
amazing man, man, cheers to that, bro, yeah, cheers, cheers to
that.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Holy smokes Awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
It's been a hell of a ride ever since the old.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
And you're drinking beer.
So it proves that beer is stilla good health drink.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Still on the Barely barely this episode comes out in
February, but I'm going througha dry January right now and I'm
also going through a no junkfood January.
I have a little addiction.
It's called Hawkins Cheesies.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Worse than anything, they're my favorite I have some
in the cupboard right now.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
They talk to me at night and I don't touch them.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
When he means covered , he means work cupboard also, I
had them at work, I had themeverywhere.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
In the trunk of the car.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Under the toilet.
Just lift the lid off the backof the toilet.
Cheesy stuffed in there.
Shout out to Hawkins, I'll beback in.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
February.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
You know I hate them.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
So are you a Hawkins Cheesy?
I do.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I don't think I know Hawkins Really.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
They're like the most iconic Canadian cheese.
They're the ones that come inthe red and white bag.
Yeah, yeah, see them all thetime.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Okay, I'll see them now.
For sure they're so and they'rethe crunchy.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
They're really, really crunchy 're just like
what's going on with thiscompany, right?
Why do I have such a crazyCheesy in this bank?
Anyways, fascinating company.
We go all over the place onthis show.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
There's really no agenda right, so shout out to
Hawkins Please send us a box ofCheesys to sponsor us.
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
So back to Arnold, so back to Arnoldnold, yeah, so
back to arnold.
And you right, like I mean youknow, obviously, you, you, I
just want you to tell me, man,like when you, when you got to
this point and you wanted tomake a change like you're, like
I mean you wanted to say I don'twant to live this way anymore,
how did that decision come upfront, or what happened?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
this has been building up for, you know, a few
years.
Um, you know, I've been.
I've been a guy, a bigger guy,my whole life.
But I had some health issuesabout 10 years ago that really
escalated this some blood clotsand whatnot but it just got to
the point where mental healthtook over and it just put me

(04:02):
into kind of a dark space.
I battled a lot with chronicleg ulcers and lymphedema.
I'm a chef, so 25 years andcounting so far, those 25 years
being on your feet, working 12to 16-hour days, it's been
pretty brutal, especially whenyou've got literally holes in
your legs and you're stillcontinuing to work because

(04:22):
you've got a mortgage, so you'vegot to keep going.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, exactly, and there were significant holes in
his legs.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
and you're still continuing to work because you
know you got a mortgage, so yougot to keep going yeah, exactly,
and they were significant holes, yeah, like don't let him
downplay that if you go throughmy social media, I suppose I'm
very open to my whole journey,so I post everything because you
never know who's I'm reachingright.
I was inspired by somebodyposted their journey, so now I
feel like this is my way ofpaying it back.
So who are you inspired by?
Just like any could be, anybodylike, just you know scrolling
through tiktok and you see theseguys that are, you know who are

(04:47):
my size or you know are more,and then now they're lifting
weights and they're social media.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Like seeing all these folks that kind of helped you
like oh realize you hey, I'mgonna do this, I can do this.
I see these dudes doing it andI can do it yeah, absolutely
like it.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
You know there's it.
You don't realize how strongyou are until you actually get
into it right.
When you start believing inyourself, when you start
thinking negatively, your mind'sgoing to think negatively and
tell your body like you don'tneed this.
You need what makes you feelgood For me.
I'm addicted to food.
Food is my addiction.
People have alcohol, peoplehave marijuana, whatever it is.

(05:21):
I use food in a negative way tohelp make me feel good.
I'm using quotations.
You probably can't see me, butno no but yeah, but uh, you know
, and being a chef, what'swhat's regularly available to me
is food right, and if you're achef, you can make it real good
too.
Yeah, you know you're making a40 50 dollar plates and then
you're going home eating craftdinner you know, because you

(05:41):
worked 16 hour days or right andyou're eating fries all day out
of a bowl because that's youknow, that's what you have time
for yeah, you have time for itif you're not a smoker, you
don't.
You get extra breaks, you knowlike so it just, it just
snowballed over the years and Ijust got to the point I'm like
all right, well, I'm just, uh,I'm here until I'd love to get
back to you on diet, but youknow.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
So how did uh this relationship, relationship
between you and Rick start?
Like, did you guys whathappened there?
Did you just go at it yourselffirst, Like before Rick?
Did you try doing it yourself,or what was?

Speaker 4 (06:12):
I tried many, many, many times, but you know what it
came down to.
I just wasn't ready and I thinkI needed to hit rock bottom and
realize, like I had a doctortell me he was like you need to
go off work to heal your legs.
I'm like I can't do it.
I got a mortgage.
She's like.
Well, you can work another twomonths or you're losing your
legs, so you make that choice,right, so you have to go off
work.
So I had no choice, you know,like, all right, well, I guess I

(06:33):
gotta go off work.
Yeah, went into like a, like apretty.
I had a pretty bad fall.
I went in off in december of2022.
I had a pretty bad fall onJanuary 1st 2023.
Couldn't pick myself up.
I rolled around my yard like abeach whale.
You know neighbor stopped.
It must have been like six carsthat stopped trying to help me
pick up.
And I always, you know, being abigger guy, use humor as a way

(06:54):
of you know, yeah a crutch, yeaha crutch got huge in the
situation.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I do that myself.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, right, so I think we're all guilty of yeah,
so you know, played it off like,oh, you know, slip fell, but
that it killed me, like it.
That was the, and I just tookmy wife one day I think it was
like a couple weeks later and Iwas like I need to do something.
She was uh-huh.
And she said uh-huh, because Isaid this a million times yeah
and I said no, I'm serious thistime.
I need to do something because Ican't live like this.

(07:20):
Either I don't want to be hereanymore, or I need to do
something to fix this so I couldbe here more yeah, so when you
reached out for help, where'dyou go?
yeah, so I you know what beingbeing a chef like I said I know
the foods I'm supposed to beeating right, right like so
following through tiktok, yousee these people talking about
calorie counting and you knowcalorie deficits, and so I
started watching a lot of videoson that and it's like, okay,

(07:42):
maybe I'll give this a shotmyself.
But I didn't really watching alot of videos on that and I was
like, okay, maybe I'll give thisa shot myself, but I didn't
really know a lot of it.
I said I'm just going to eatthree meals a day.
I want to focus on healthy,lean proteins, you know, like
good carbs, rice, pasta,vegetables and I'll just see
what happens.
I'll drink four liters of watera day and let's see what's
going to go on.

(08:12):
And after a few weeks I startednoticing some changes in my body
.
I felt better and I was likewell, but I still didn't have
that number.
So I bought a scale off amazonthat companies would use to
deliver packages and weighpackages and I jumped in the
scale and I was 574 I think thatwas four weeks into it and my
doctor said, well, judging bythe, you know what you're eating
.
She said you're probablyaveraging 14 pounds a day.
She said you were probably sixor north of six.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right, when we started paying attention to how
much she was weighing, he waslosing like eight and nine
pounds a week.
Yeah, wow, yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
So after my first 50 pounds, you know I was feeling
good and that's what.
Took the photo and put it onTwitter.
And that's what took the photoand put it on Twitter and Arnold
seeing it, then I felt reallygood, yeah, and then we'll be
actually a little before thatyeah, cause before Arnold seen
it was about a week on Twitterwhere it went kind of semi viral
a George Strabo seeing it kindof you know, and then I reached

(08:57):
out to Rick one an email.
He could probably tell the storya lot better, but I reached out
through email, just basicallytold them where I was.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
So what drew you to Rick?

Speaker 4 (09:07):
I needed help and I've tried many times before.
He says it's his face.
We both have crooked eyessometimes right, all the time.
So I reached out many timesbefore to their gyms and I got
ignored.
So I did one on Coal HarborConnection Facebook group.
Oh, yeah, yeah, ofion Facebookgroup I looked up personal
trainer and I seen this guy andI'm like, ooh, this guy's too

(09:28):
expensive and then you seen Rick, and then I seen Rick, I'm
cheap as hell, I'm cheap as hell.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Rick reminded me of no Frills ad.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
I seen Rick and I went to his Facebook page and
I'm like, oh shit, I'm alreadyfollowing this guy.
So, anyway, anyway, I just senthim an email.
I just told my backstory and Ididn't expect to hear but back
from, because I'm used to, youknow, messaging back.
But I think it was like 6 am.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I had a text message or yeah, he messaged me.
Uh, good Friday yeah 2023 and,uh, I didn't quite know how I
was going to help him.
He explained his stories likehey, I'm, you know, upwards of
600 pounds.
I need help and I'm like, am Igonna have to go to his house,
like what's this gonna look like?

(10:15):
by the time I was training outof my basement yeah small groups
and, uh, I saw that we had acouple mutual friends.
So I messaged one of the mutualfriends and I was like, hey,
like how do you know, derek?
Like am I going to be able tohelp this guy?
And she's like, oh my God, he'sthe best guy.
Like you want to message him,like right now?
So I messaged him.
We got him in the next day.
Like he came in Saturday and itwas rough, like it was a slow

(10:40):
session.
We modified most things, butliterally within three months he
was doing everything.
Amazing bro Everything that Iwould ask anyone to do.
He was doing within threemonths.
And back to you he's the mostcapable person in the studio now
.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Your fitness journey.
Rick, you came into this.
How did you become a personaltrainer?
What's your background?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So I was a dorky, unpopular, stinky kid and in
grade 7, I joined the track andfield team and started lifting
weights and sort of turned mylife around socially with
fitness.
And in grade 11, there's aPALCOM program.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
We're about the same age.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Right there's the Career and Lifestyles Management
In grade 11, you you shadowsomeone that you want to do
their work and I wanted to own agym.
And in my head, I wanted to owna gym like a gym that you'd
come to and work outindependently and whatever.
That's what I wanted to do yeahand now fast forward.
I'm I'm running like a personaltraining studio.

(11:41):
It's not at all what I wasthinking, but it's yeah, it's
better hands, it's better thanit's totally hands-on every
single person in the studio isdoing what I'm telling them to
do at all times and yeah, I'vebeen in business, I've been
doing personal training for 17years and I've had my own studio
for nine years.
Do you feel?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
that style.
I mean for me.
I'm not in the industry, but Ifeel that that style is really,
really taking off and people arefeeling a little bit more drawn
to that uh like yeah becauseyou have like the all the other
ones, like the orange theories,the, uh, whatever the other ones
, crossfit and yeah, all theseother stuff where someone's
really hands-on, as opposed tojust go to fit for less workout

(12:20):
and go home, kind of thing yeah,it depends on what you're drawn
to right like.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Those fit for less gyms are budget friendly.
Oh, they're great.
I'm not shooting them down.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
I feel based on my social media, when I see people
they're going to these classes,they're going to the community
Because they like the community.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
They like the support .

Speaker 3 (12:45):
It seems that that seems funny enough in a world
where we trying to like automatea lot of things.
Right, that's not going thatway, absolutely, it's not.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So.
A few years ago there was aproduct, it was a mirror and I
had like a hologramic personaltrainer.
It's like peloton okay but Ihave like a hologramic personal
trainer in it sounds verydemolition man, but a few of us
were kind of shitting our pantsright Like uh-oh.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
We're going to get placed by the skim mirrors, dude
.
No, they did not.
No, they didn't take off at allno.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
But it was something we all kind of had our eye on.
How about?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
like do you know?
Again, I'm kind of with Matt onthis.
I don't know about the industryor she still has the app.
It's like the Beachbody,whatever thing.
Yeah, absolutely.
So she's watching videos on thescreen and doing it.
Is that losing popularity?
You think in live?
Do you think people are comingback to real gyms, so Beachbody.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
they just rebranded recently to Body and they just
changed their whole businessmodel, so they were a
multi-level marketing company.
Yes, that's, right so you'dhave ladies selling DVDs out of
the trunk of their car.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Kind of.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
They've totally done away with that now.
So they're not multi-levelmarketing anymore, they're
direct sales.
So you go on the website andyou can buy the DVDs.
But they've totally changedtheir business model literally
in the last two months.
Interesting, but there's amarket for that.
There's people that aremotivated enough to work out in
their living room, like there'snot this guy.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, no, no, no, and not not any of my people either
Right, but most people have atreadmill in their basement and
their clothes hang on it, so aservice like mine appeals to
people that want to come andlike, have a little community.
There's a?
There's a phenomenon we'resitting in a bar right now.
There's a phenomenon called thethird, the third place right
that you have.
You have two places where youhave purpose.

(14:29):
By default, you have home andwork yeah you go home, you have
purpose.
You go to work, you have purpose.
You need a third place andtraditionally that's been church
okay, yeah and then in the last50 years that slowly become
places like this, like a bar.
Yeah right, the show cheers.
It's all about those people'sthird place, right?
And there's this idea that ifyou can have a studio like mine

(14:50):
and you can make that the thirdplace for people, then you have
raving lunatic fans that willnever leave you right so that's
something that I've really triedto cultivate is like I've

Speaker 3 (14:59):
got people that come five six times a week.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Derek's there almost every day when he's on.
Right now he's gone through atransition with work.
He hasn't been around as much,but the people that come to the
studio are raving lunatic fans.
They'll ride or die.
For me, yeah, incredible, whichis what I'm after.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
So back to you, Derek , so to work.
I saw the post because I'vebeen following you for the last
six months now.
Congratulations you, BecauseI've been following you for the
last six months now.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Congratulations you got back to work and that was a
journey getting back to work,right?
Yeah, it still is.
Yeah, yeah, no right on.
So how's that going?

Speaker 1 (15:31):
and what's that been like through this whole process?

Speaker 4 (15:34):
It's been going okay.
There's been some hiccups, butyou know, to get back to some
normalcy in my life life, youknow, because I mean everyone.
I know a picture people outthere that would say, no, you
know, he's off two weeks, twoyears, and he's sitting home and
get paid.
No, this is my full-time job.
Like I needed to do this, itwas, you know.
So I've been working my ass offliterally, you know to to get to

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these things and it's beenrewarding, because now I'm doing
things that I'd never thoughtI'd be able to do before.
And when you go throughsomething like this, you don't
realize the things that you lose, the everyday things like
putting on your own socks in themorning.
I couldn't do that, I couldn'tcut my own toenails, I couldn't
pick myself up off the floor.
Now I'm starting to run a bit.

(16:19):
I'm trying to run, jogging Iguess, but still doing I can put
my socks on.
Now I'm I'm independent.
It's like I'm breaking,breaking down the restrictions
that were holding me down inlife and moving forward.
So you know, back to work iswas the main, was another main
goal uh, you know so it's goingwell.
It's a slow transition, um, youknow, build myself up, but I'm

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up to almost eight hours a daynow and body feels good, um,
amazing, yeah, so you know, butit's, it's opening a lot more
opportunities for me in thefuture and that's what's through
your social media?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
have you had, uh people reaching out, people
coming to you now saying, heylook, I'm trying to do this, man
.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Oh yeah, all the time , yeah yeah, you know any, uh,
any insights?
You know what could I do?
How should I start?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
yeah, yeah you know that, just uh you know what
could I do?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
How should I start?
Yeah, you know, just you knowwhere should I go.
Hey, they're like can you giveme Rick's information?
Like can he help me?
You know, like so.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Are you paying him some royalties there, rick?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
No, no, no, no no, that year 2023, was in May, I
believe.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
No, it was just after my birthday, april.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
So Derek started with me, let's say, late April.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I was going through a divorce.
I was training out of my house.
Oh yeah, I was leaving thehouse.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
So I opened a commercial studio.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Just across the street from where we are right
now.
On June 27th so about a monthand a half, two months after I
met Derek, I opened my ownstudio, and the rent of my
studio is as much money as I wasmaking out of my house.
This guy's literally put mybusiness on his back.
He talks about ArnoldSchwarzenegger.

(18:02):
Butterbean also tweeted at him.
He didn't eat oh there you go.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I loveegger Butterbean.
Also tweeted at him.
He didn't eat.
Oh hey, there you go, I loveButterbean.
Butterbean might be cooler thanArnold actually, so I don't
know about that.
I like Butterbean, but likeArnold is, like you know.
I like Bill Burr's little bitwhere he talks about like Arnold
has fit like four lifetimes ofachievement.
It's all in one.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Oh yeah, everything has fit like four lifetimes of
achievements all in one.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Everything he says he's gonnado with this.
But like derek put a post onfacebook locally and like I'll
get five new customers, likehalf of my customers right now,
if you ask them like hey, how'dyou start with rick?
Like yeah, they said always sawderek's post when I signed up
with rick.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
I was like, hey, man, like if you want to post about
me, do whatever you got to do,like make money off me, like oh
he goes.
No, I'm never going to do that.
He said if you want to postabout me, you can go right ahead
.
But he said I'll never use youfor for gains, right.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
So I respect that, I respect that a lot right.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
I respect that he posted a ton and I know I was
like yeah this is my way of youknow helping him, helping others
, so I just you know here's aphenomenon that does happen,
though.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
People message me all the time they go I saw Derek's,
I saw Derek's journey, I needto lose weight, yeah, they'll
say.
They'll say, yeah, I sawDerek's journey, I want to lose
weight.
I want to come twice a week.
Right, like Derek's story isnot.
I come to Rick's classes twicea week, derek comes to Rick's
classes five twice a week.
That's right, derek comes toRick's classes five times a week

(19:25):
.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
He walks every day for an hour Yep, and he eats an
entirely different diet than heused to eat.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
So people message me all the time.
They're like, hey, I want totrain twice a week.
I'm like all right, that's cooland I'm glad Derek sent you my
way and it's totally fine.
But you do not expect Derekresults If that like I mean,
maybe that's a start for somepeople right If they were doing
nothing.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
And all of a sudden, two times a week, is there a
starting point Great, right,right, cause I mean that you
know, cause they might get tofive, cause they, you know, it's
that community Absolutely theymay end up wanting to go there
every day.
Right, end up wanting to gothere every day, right, yep, and
that's a good thing, um, but Ithink yeah, I think I, I know
what you mean like some to getdirect results though like
that's 200 pounds, 200 pounds ina year and a little bit like no

(20:11):
, that's, that's you, you lostme yeah, yeah, he's incredible.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
He is incredible force of nature yeah so that's
the thing right, so it's.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
It's one of those things where it's um yeah it's
impressive, but the thing is toois like you were going back
about.
Some people might say like, oh,you were sitting home for two
years or whatever, but and wewere literally losing stuff.
But the fact is, is that anyonewho's choosing to be healthy
and I mean I don't I I thinkit's a great thing, because I'm
not one to go out and body shamepeople or anything like that
right absolutely.
But there's a difference between, like, body shamingaming and

(20:44):
just someone choosing to gethealthy, and I think it's really
important that, whether it isjust eating better or it's just
moving more and all those things, that those are things that
should be celebrated.
It's not that necessarily.
It's like oh great, I don'twant to be fat anymore, I want
to be healthy, I want to livelonger, I want to be there for

(21:05):
your wife, for your kids,whatever it may be right.
So it's, it's those types ofthings and so.
But the kind of caveat to thatis what I was leading to is that
you were maybe off, but youwere trying to lessen the burden
of, like, the health care thatyou may have to see coming.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, kind of thing, right, yeah, like I was already
at the point where I had VONcoming daily to dress my legs
Right, so I'd go to work, thenhave to rush home and get home
at 6 or 7 o'clock at night andI'd be up until almost midnight
to get a nurse to come changethe wounds, wrap my legs.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
The mutual friend that I messaged was one of his
VON nurses actually.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Oh, okay, the weight loss has been unbelievable, you
know, but the biggest flex Ithink I can honestly say is that
I'm mentally stronger now.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
That's true too.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Like that's the biggest part of it.
I was in a bad spot, like I wasready to just end it all and
get out of here.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
And you know like now that I'm seeing a future, I
want to travel, I want to go anddo things with my wife.
Before I was just like.
I'm just going to sit here andeat myself to death and I'll be
out of my misery soon.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, and I don't think people realize the
addiction that happens.
It's been proven that thechemicals that are in especially
, like you know, shitty foods dohave a grasp on your mind,
similar to drugs gambling andall these things that people can
become addicted to.
And that food.
Like you know, you go out andeat that McDonald's Every time.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
like I try to limit that, but every time I go out
and have a.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
McDonald's burger.
The funny thing is is like Icrave a McDonald's burger again
the next day and it just takesthe will to say no, don't do
that, you have to just check it.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
It's easy to fall into a habit of getting
McDonald's every day everysecond day, especially in this
world where we're always so busy.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Like.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I said three different places, as you were
saying.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
We all have that, and now you've got McDonald's and
all these other apps, so they'regoing to reward you for coming
here.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
You, you have an app, so they're going to reward you
for coming here.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
You come here a couple times a week.
We're going to give you a freeburger.
That's right.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
There's this idea too , that willpower is a finite
resource, so everybody wakes upwith 100 willpowers right, okay.
And if you're out of shape orif you're depressed or if you're
whatever, it takes some ofthose willpowers just to get out
of bed.
Right, yeah, yeah yeah, and ittakes some of those will powers
to go to work and live throughyour day and every single person
that lives when they drive home.

(23:26):
There's the big yellow archesright and those yellow arches
are saying don't cook supper.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Don't cook supper.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Just pull through the drive-thru.
It's easier to feed your family.
Stop through right and, if youhave, none of your will powers
left, you go, yeah sure.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
I'll stop in right.
Listen, if I was at work, I'dbe just miserable with pain,
feet, ankles, knees, everythingI would eat probably who wants
to go home and make a steak?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
yeah, but I would.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
I would probably devour a bottle of tunnels in a
week just to get through shifts,you know um, probably took more
than I should have.
Um, and then like just thewhole, like where I said use
food as addiction, like somedays I wouldn't even realize it
and and I'd kind of snap to itand the next thing I know I'm in
the drive-thru.
Right and I'm like how the helldid I get here?

(24:11):
My brain's telling me oh, youneed that burger, you need you
know, Just the addiction.
Part of things took over.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
And.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
I used to the little things that when you start
counting calories that add uplike at home, three plates of
pasta it all adds up.
And when I truly startedlooking into it and realizing at
600 pounds just for me tomaintain 600 pounds it was to
eat 5,200 calories a day.
Wow, just to maintain that.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
The gain that you need to eat Because it's
actually it is hard to like keepthe weight on right.
Like you're saying, you lostlike nine pounds a week.
Yeah, you could have lost ninepounds a week, literally just
not eating what you're eatingwithout even moving.
Right so it is an actual likefeat in a way to keep the weight
on.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, it's a lot of calories.
Just sitting at 600 pounds,sitting doing nothing, I was
burning almost 6,000, a littleover 6,000 calories a day just
by doing nothing and then solike to gain a pound of fat, you
need to eat 3,200 calories overyour maintenance calories.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
So you know Well.
And then when you switch tohealthier eating I mean, like
you know, I'm on the verybeginning stages of this.
So, again, my partner, she'sahead of me, so she has this
MyFitnessPal app.
So, I downloaded a free versionof that.
I'm tracking my food right now.
Yeah and man, the healthy foodis like when you stick to lean

(25:39):
proteins.
Dude like way lower caloriesYou're like holy smokes You're
like.
So I'm actually having a hardtime getting to what I'm
supposed to have for calories.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
So the breakdown on that is a gram of protein is
four calories for calories.
So the breakdown on that is agram of protein is four calories
.
Yeah, a gram of carbohydrate isalso four calories and a gram
of fat is nine calories so assoon as you introduce fat to a
meal, the calorie goes throughthe roof what about sugar?
I mean, it's carbohydrate I mean, the problem is refined sugar,
then stores yeah, I was gonnasay it's dangerous in other ways

(26:11):
but as far as calorie count,four, four calories for a gram
of protein and carbohydrate,yeah, but, fat is nine.
So when you add fat, if whatyou're caring about is calories,
when you add fat, you do itexponentially increase maybe I'm
completely like out of touch onhere, but whenever like I, we
always, we always, we don't Idon't.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
If you came to my place right now, I don't think
you could find a bag of whitesugar or even brown sugar.
Good, but the because we oftenwhat we'll do is we substitute
um for, like, more naturalsugars, and I don't know if
that's a good thing or a badthing, but we use honey or maple
syrup yeah, that's great.
Yeah, I mean it's, yeah,absolutely we, so we'll replace
anything with those types ofthings.

(26:52):
I don't know if that makes anydifference or not, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
So I'm not a nutritionist.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
No, no exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Derek goes to see a dietician.
Yeah, I don't speak about food,a whole lot.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
It's outside of the scope of practice for personal
trainers.
Fair enough, right?
Well, that's fair.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
I mean, I already know type of dietitian and
reading up a lot of it, but it's, it's, you know, the refined
sugars, like it's, it'smanufactured, like it's broke
down, at least with the you know, honey and and maple syrup,
it's, you know, as long as it'spure uh, you know and
unpasteurized.
It's, it's natural, like it'syou know.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, it's still well , that's the only way.
I'm real picky when it comes tomaple syrup.
I actually been joking aroundthat we I want to do a blind
maple syrup testing because I'mlike really particular, it needs
to be maple syrup.
Oh yeah, and I have a brandthat I like and I swear you
could blind taste me with 10different ones and I could pick
out my brand just by tasting it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
He likes maple syrup I like maple syrup.
He's really good.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
My wife's Quebecois, so he got the plaid shirt on.
That'll do it.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
All right, so back to you, man.
So what's your diet like now?

Speaker 4 (27:58):
So now I work with a great dietitian here in
Dartmouth.
Her name is Amanda Grant.
She's out of LifeMark, oh yeahyeah, lifemark, and I see her at
the PT Health in Baker Drive,but she's unbelievable.
So before, like I said, Ididn't know what I was doing, I
just knew.
I didn't even start trackingwhen I first started.

(28:18):
I just ate those three meals aday, drank my four liters of
water, and then I was like, oh,okay, I'm losing weight.
So then I was like I'm justcurious.
I started reading more about itand so I just started tracking
and I was like, okay, okay, soI'm right around, you know 2500
calories.
And then, uh, she had said youknow that you should eat more
protein.
More protein is going to heal.
It's going to heal my wound,it's going to.

(28:39):
You know, we look into vitamins, like, uh, you know, certain
vitamins are going to help healwith the wounds and everything.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
and she really highlighted fiber as well.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah, I wasn't eating enough fiber, because I was
like geez, I'm plateauing hereand I feel like I shouldn't be.
It just turns out I wasn'teating enough calories.
You've got to find that balanceand as you lose weight.
It always changes, but rightnow I stick around 2,000
calories and I'd probably put160 grams of protein.
I tried.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Metamucil for the first time for the first time in
my life, Two days ago, I waslike holy smokes that two days
ago I was like holy smokes, thatthing cleans the pipes, right?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
I wouldn't believe I had so many, I mean.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
I missed half a day of work yesterday.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I was just like I had to leave three times.
I couldn't believe it.
I was like, wow, I was scared,right, maybe I took just a
teaspoon.
Did I overdose on my blue chain.
But yeah, I mean because I'vealways, always everyone that I
know that's, yeah, you know,older folks have always told me
you know, get fiber in your dietas you get older.
It's one of the best things youcan do for your nutrition yeah,

(29:42):
like your health and you knowwhat it's.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
Honestly, it's as simple as just having like a
fruit and a vegetable with everymeal.
Like, honestly, it comes downto that people you know say oh,
I have a hard time eating fiber,you don't like fruit, you don't
like any kind of fruit.
I don't like fruit a whole lot,no, but is there a?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
fruit you do like, I like strawberries and
blueberries.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, that's what I do.
Yeah, it's like you know what Imean.
There's always I like peaches.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
And so I got the frozen peaches.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I put them.
If you Google foods that arehigh in fiber, you'll find a
hundred foods like beans, butthere is a lot of peakier people
out there.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
They don't like a lot of things.
I'm fortunate I'm a chef.
I love everything.
Obviously Wouldn't have blownthe 600 pounds, I'd like
everything, but it's to findwhat works for you.
There's a lot of things outthere that work.
A lot of people do thecarnivore diet and stuff like
that.
A lot of people do thecarnivore diet and stuff like
that Not for me.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
I love eating protein .
I tried that Not because ofnecessarily for diet.
I tried it mostly to try tofigure out what the hell is
messing my guts up so much?

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
It turns out I don't know that's a whole other
discussion.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
But you enjoyed the steak.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
I actually did the lion's diet, which is even a
step further.
You're only a step further, sothe lions, you're only a gazelle
.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
And I had to run around and actually prey on it
too.
The circle of life plays outonce in a while.
He's running in the circle, Ijust hold my son up over the
rocks?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
No, but the lion's diet is only red meat, so you
don't even eat.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
It's what a lion could eat basically, what do you
mean?
Like a lion could eat if he wasdomesticated, like had little
work paws and he was like goingto the office, no, what's a lion
going to eat?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
in, like you know the Sahara.
Okay, there's no like wildchickens running around Like
they go after red meat Bison,yeah, of chickens running around
like they.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
They go after.
They have to go after red bison.
Yeah, they go red meat, they goafter pre-packaged meat.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
So like, basically what I could do is I could.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I could have, like cow I could have I get it now.
I'm seasoned practicetumbleweed, so I did I did that
for honestly for a month and itstill didn't figure out what the
hell is causing my gut problems.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
But either way um yeah, so there's a bunch of
different stuff there is likeyou've just got to find
something that works with yourlifestyle and you know that you
can maintain.
You know, like I always say,you don't get to be perfect, you
just need to be consistent.
You know, just keep showing up,like I had my days where, you
know, like this Christmas, lastChristmas, I was dead set Keep
my calories.

(32:06):
I didn't, you know, didn't gooff, track, off track.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
And this christmas I'm like, I'm enjoying myself,
so this episode's gonna go injanuary.
But I'm sorry in february, butat the end of january, now when
I go back to it, do yourecommend, like I have, like
maybe one cheesy night a monthwhere I just go?

Speaker 4 (32:19):
nuts or maybe like a bag of cheeses every two weeks,
like yeah like here's, here'sbest thing when eating a calorie
deficit, you save calories forthe end of the week.
It it all comes down tocalories in, calories out so if
you eat in calorie deficit, youget the surplus of calories.
You can afford to have that bagof chips a week.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
That's the cheap day, right yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Not every day, though .

Speaker 4 (32:36):
You know, but now I'm like instead of having a big
bag of chips.
I turn to the back Okay, 50grams.
Yeah, 240 calories.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Right.
But you know what that's thething about, just being like so
and we're trying to raise him ina sense that, like, all food is
food, yep and cause.
You know, when you say certainfoods are bad or you restrict
them or anything like that, thenthey want it more and all this
other stuff, right.
So I was super like happy.

(33:03):
Like I said, it's three yearsold, he had a sore throat,
bought him a little container ofice cream, chocolate ice cream.
So we went through and scoopeda little bit in there and, no
joke, I was like three littlelike spoonfuls in and he goes
that's enough, that's enough andI was like jeez man.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
You're damn right.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
it is what three-year-old is sitting there
saying like that's enough.
And he just took his threelittle scoops and he went and he
ate it up and everything.
And I was like holy crap.
And my wife says that's whathappens when you don't treat
like food, like it's a bad guyor anything like that you don't
restrict it.
It's the same thing with alcohol, like we try to like.
Tell people you can't drink,you can't drink, you can't drink
, and next thing you knowthey're 19 years old, they get

(33:42):
their first legal drink and theygo and they get freaking
plaster.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah, but I'm sure you guys are probably raised the
same way I was.
You know your grandma wouldalways make sure you left full.
You didn't finish your food andyou needed to finish that,
clean that plate.
You had to.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
If there's a pregnant lady in the room she's eating
for two.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
It was everything we do as Maritimers and people,
it's all based around food.
The Maritimers die.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
But it's very fat-based too.
A lot of fried foods, gravy eat, eat, eat.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
fat base too, right a lot of fried foods gravy like
yeah, eat and you know it, it,so it it.
That gets passed down.
It's generational.
You know like it is bread in,you're like you know.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
So all bread, bread, bread bread india that should be
I got.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
I do like bread, but you know I'll tell you one thing
, though, that there has to be aclear difference in having
fresh homemade bread versusstore-bought bread?

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Oh, absolutely, it's preservative, exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
And the taste is better and everything.
But my wife has a friend whomakes her own sourdoughs and
stuff and she likes toexperiment.
She gives them to us here andthere and man, oh man, that's
next level bread kind of thing,yeah I do so.
I do like my bread and it goesmoldy yeah so you gotta eat it.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
You gotta eat it quick store-bought bread sits on
your fridge for three weeksyeah, yeah, something's funny
there and sourdough is so goodlike, especially if people are
diabetic, and stuff too, becauseit helps maintain your
metabolism so you don't get thebig spikes with the so you're
saying I should get like I.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Sourdough is like the best bread maybe to have oh
yeah, 100, yeah, yeah I have adear friend who's like gluten
issues and sourdough is finereally wow.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Okay, yeah, that's really cool, and over in europe
flour doesn't bother her huhyeah, that's because we're here
well you know, in Europe flourdoesn't bother her, huh yeah, it
bothers her here, it bothersher here, but it doesn't bother
her in Europe we have all thatenriched flour which has like
potato enzymes in it and stufflike that enriched sounds like a
good thing, right, it's not.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I'm like that's super flour, but it's not it's
totally not enriched floursounds like flour that went to a
good school, it's.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Harvard flour.
This flour is educated, I knowbut it's actually enriched,
actually as like not a goodflour.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
It's crazy, it's shelf stable.
That's right, it's shelf stable, that's right.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
And it's also like you know I mean food prices are
crazy these days, right, so alot of it is.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's Today Junior yeah, I'm trying to think of the
word.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
It's an epidemic.
It's cheaper to eat unhealthierfood than it is to eat.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
You know what I used to think.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
That's a problem Healthier food is cheaper.
Okay, so here's the debate.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I want to push back against you two, but I'll let
these guys go first.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
This is like.
So you just kind of got into afunny thing.
Healthy food is cheaper, right?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
No, sorry Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
No, he's saying unhealthy food Is cheaper for
the consumer to buy Than it ishealthier food.
Like a box of Kraft dinner for99 cents and you can't even get
a bag of peas and corn now forless than $2.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
So here's the thing.
I used to think that way too,and I've changed my thought
process on it.
You're right to a degreeHealthier food is more expensive
when you have a little bit lessprivilege, or you have less
privilege If you have.
Certain times it's more effortto eat healthier and eat better.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
I'll give you an example 100% more effort.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Here on Dartmouth we've got Gateway.
On Halifax side we've got theKingswood Market.
I go there and I'm not joking Idrop $150 on just meat alone.
That's what I do.
I buy meat once every six weeks.
I buy $150, and I have meat forevery day for six weeks because
I go home.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
It's like Gazelli found in the Sahara, exactly.
He's drinking all of his tea,but I divide it up.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
They have chicken big packs of chicken for a really
good price.
I come out and I take them allup and I divide and I put three
to four chicken breasts in aZiploc bag and we freeze them
and all this stuff and I divideeverything up right.
And so the last time I boughtmeat from Kingswood Market was
the last week of November.
$150 is what I spent $153.
Where I live out in Prospect wehave Mabel's.

(38:07):
Shout out to Mabel's becausethey're a farm market.
Let's go, mabel's.
I can buy a cauliflower therefor $2.99.
The flyer special at no Frillsfor cauliflower was $4.88.
Just this past weekend that Iwent shopping $2.99 regular
price out there.
So I've gone and I've spent.
I buy a lot of my veggies thereand I bought enough veggies to

(38:31):
make salads every day for theweek.
Well, five days of the week forsuppers, and my wife eats
salads every day for lunch and Ispent $24, and I had my veggies
for the week.
Yeah, and I've eaten veggies,salads or something every single
day.
I am lucky enough that I can goto kingswood drop 153 on that

(38:54):
and then each week spendprobably less than 100 bucks
getting the other things, theyogurts, the whatever right.
I honestly no joke.
If you average my grocery billfor my family of three my
three-year-old and me and mywife, my son doesn't have to
feed lunch because he's atdaycare, right, but other than
that, two meals, I spend onaverage $100 a week.

(39:17):
$100 a week.
It's going to grow, it's goingto change.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's going to change.
It's going to change.
I know it's going to change.
Three scoops of ice cream turnsout.
Where's the bucket of ice cream?
No, no, no, I get that.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
It's going to change what I'm saying is it's going to
change, but a lot of people arein the same situation as I am.
They're saying I'm spendinglike $200, $300 a week Same, you
can do it.
The thing is is it takes moreeffort and not.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
It takes more effort and not everyone has the ability
to go out and go to GatewayKingswood Market, go to Mabel's.
So I guess, matt, the argumentthere like that was okay.
So you're saying basically ifyou go to these niche markets
you can get cheap food.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
But what sucks, though, ultimately is many
people don't have that option.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
A lot of people don't even have the $100.
That's also true.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
When you're talking, the competitiveness between
Walmart, no Frills, Sobeys andAtlantic.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Superstore you're talking about a variance of
maybe $4 or $5 right betweenyour grocery cart in one place
or the other.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
When you balance it all out.
I love the guy shout out tothat Halifax Retails guy.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
He does a cart shop and he compares them every once
in a blue moon Every year.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, I love his chicken one.
When I opened my studio, hewouldn't give me a shout out
because I was a service-basedbusiness, but then two weeks
later, he gave a shout out toPlanet Fitness.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
To Halifax guy oh wow , can we leave that on there?
I mean, I invited him on thisshow.
Actually we like he might comeon there.
I love his service.
Address your hate, rick.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
No, I love his service, but I was hoping he
would give me a showdown,because it would have helped
well, you're yeah, but now youhave this guy absolutely.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
So he knows arnold.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
But if I could, if I could interject, like, a bag of
carrots is three meals.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Right.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, it's like four bucks.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Bag of potatoes is $10, $12,.
Three meals Like, if you keepit pretty basic, yeah, like a
bag of potato chips that you byyourself would eat in one night
is also $4.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
That's true, that's if you're living a vegan diet.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
No, no dollars, that's true, that's if you're
living a vegan diet.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
No, no, no like proteins are expensive.
Proteins are expensive like Ibase everything.
Proteins my first thing I lookfor is what's my protein content
.
You know whether it's fish,whether it's can of tuna.
You know I try to aim for aboutfor bait, for main meals, like
30 grams protein, uh, and thenlike, if I want like a snack,
now it's protein bar.
Like you know, I hopefully have10 grams of protein per 100
calories.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Like your whole mindset changed how many pickled
eggs are you allowed to eatbefore your?

Speaker 4 (41:55):
wife hates you.
Good pickled eggs.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Because that's the game I'm playing right now this
January.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, she calls.
She doesn't hate you when youeat.
It Hates you in the nextmorning, right?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, that's right, but like, yeah, junk food is
really expensive too.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
And it's gone on Like crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
A bag of Oreos is $6.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Is that what it is now?
Six bucks, is it that much forOreos now, geez wow.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Look, I think Newfoundland did it right with
that pop tax, like I thinkhonestly like it.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
They have a pop tax.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
They have a pop tax in Newfoundland, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
So anything sugary?
I think I wore a certainpercentage of that pineapple
crushed, right, yeah?
So I'm the personal trainerhere.
I'm the personal trainer here.
I made a, I made a list ofgoals for 2025.
Yeah, the number one goal Nope,no soda.
Yeah, no energy drinks.
Okay, I said no socks.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
It looks like.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
I wrote no socks.
Okay, it's no soda.
Define soda Okay, no sodas.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Define soda Okay, pause.
So okay, obviously regular Coke.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
So I will give myself a pass on ginger beer and tonic
.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
What about Diet Coke?

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Oh, I love Diet Coke.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I would rather die than drink a Diet Coke.
Okay, why is that?
You just don't like the tasteof it.
I just don't like the taste ofit.
Okay, I'm a Pepsi guy.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
What about Bubblies?
Because I'm a Pepsi guy.
Okay, the goal might as wellsay no Pepsi, no energy drinks.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Okay, fair enough yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Okay, I am like as much as Derek's talking about
food addiction.
Like I am addicted, Like I willdrink a liter of Pepsi.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Really.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Wow, wow.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Okay, and like you know people that will drink like
two or three rock stars in aday, like that, oh geez.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
In a day like that, oh geez, yeah, I think that's
insane but I would absolutelydrink one a day, like okay,
absolutely yeah, um only pop.
I like ginger beer, I do like areal ginger yeah, I do like that
yeah but the only actual likepop that I like is root beer
yeah, and I don't, and I don'tdrink it that much.
But, like I was saying, I had aroot beer, probably the first.
For the first time in twomonths I had it just on the

(43:46):
weekend and it's the propellerroot beer oh man, is that ever
good?

Speaker 4 (43:50):
it is good, yeah, it's the best and I took that.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
I just took a little sip and I was like this is the
best.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
But like, as early as I can remember, as early as I
can remember, I remember like mystepdad, like getting the pepsi
that you like pop the littlegasket out of to see if you win
a prize points, right, yeah,like like it's like one of my
earliest memories from mychildhood and like I'm straight
up addicted.
Anyway, I'm like that bike gotyou addicted.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
You wanted that bike.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
So are you, are you?
Uh, no Pepsi so far this year,yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I started before the new year.
I'm like 14 or 15 days inCongratulations, and now it's
easy.
But now it's easy.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Yeah, but like, literally, until you see Cindy
Craw, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
writing here, but like,literally, never in my life have
I gone 15 days yeah, wow,that's wild really, yeah, so
like you're talking aboutstruggles.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Like people meet me, they might not think oh, that
guy eats healthy this startedJanuary.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
It gives you a lot of clarity when you realize you
know, like holy smokes, yeah, Idid eat a lot of junk food, a
lot more than I thought,especially when you stop eating
it and you start looking for itand saying, oh, you're not,
you're not doing that right nowyou gotta walk away, and I've
been.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
I've been picking at him for like probably a good
solid eight months, saying likestop snacking, stop snacking and
the segue there was a bottle ofpepsi in any setting is like
three bucks now.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it?
If?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
you're lucky yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Yeah, hawkins, cheezys are going up, I tell you
yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Right, yeah, he's back to the Cheezys.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Full circle, hawkins, you want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, yeah, hawkins, all right, so I'll tell you what
.
So Matt and I typically havequestions.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Neither of us.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Both of us had crazy, crazy business work days so we
didn't have time to do ourrandom questions.
So we're going to try somethingdifferent here.
I got one.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
And it's a great one.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
No, looking at your phone.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
It's a great one Modest, modest.
Everything he does is modest,okay, go ahead.
Modest, okay, go ahead, alright.
So question number one, rapidfire, great for the topic is
what's a great excuse to justeat a whole pizza?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Oh, he's the guy.
Pizza was the vice.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
I worked all day.
I'm too tired.
Pizza was my kryptonite.
I'd probably throw him in frontof a bus to get a pizza back in
the day.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Pizza is great.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I love pizza.
I haven't had any yet this year.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Do you eat a whole pizza?
I?

Speaker 1 (46:13):
eat a whole pizza.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Oh, buddy, what's up?

Speaker 4 (46:15):
We used to get an extra large pizza.
Shout out Pizza Time here inDartmouth Extra large pizza.
I'd let my kids go first andwife I feel like, oh, just extra
pizza.
Where did it all go?
Like it must have been the kids, you know what was that I blame
my kids, but I, you know, Isince apologized to them about

(46:35):
everything.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
No, when I met you, I remember you said you said I
would get those sliced pizza.
I knew it was in there Allnight.
I'd be thinking about it.
That's an addiction.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
It's a real addiction 100%.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
My answer would be it's a long day, A long day too
lazy to cook.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
And the gym's next door to a pizza place.
Maybe the smell.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Alright, next question what do you do for
spare time?
What's your favorite leisureactivity when you're not working
out or eating.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
I'm a huge baseball fan.
I'm a big Blue Jay guy.
A little frustrating watchingthis long season.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah, you're a Jays fan all right, I'm a Jays fan,
you know.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
I had the best luck of picking teams.
You know Jays and Leafs,Toronto, Toronto One of those
kids, I guess, that picked it upwhen they were good back in the
90s and 80s.
But anyway, I'm diehard.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
All right, you man, I love professional wrestling.
Okay, unapologetically.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
So what do you think about raw Netflix, raw Netflix.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Biggest thing, biggest pop culture moment of
the last decade.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
I think, oh cool, are they going to do like?
Are they going to sellpay-per-views?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Everything is on Netflix.
Everything, so evenWrestleMania.
You can just watch it for freeon.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Netflix now.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Wow, it's all on there now.
Yeah, amazing your turn.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Okay, what do you think the worst animal driver
would be?
If animals could drive, whatanimal do you think would be the
worst driver?
That's good Cats.
Cats would be bad drivers, isit the gazelle?

Speaker 4 (48:15):
you're chasing after.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
No, it would be a cat for sure, because they're
selfish.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Yeah, but yeah, maybe I'll go with.
Hmm, yeah, I'll stick with acat, I guess.
Stick with a little type of cat, I guess my cat's pretty lazy.
They're going to nap.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
They'll be sleeping while I drive them?
Probably.
Yeah, they're too selfish to begood drivers.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
They seem like they wouldn't know how to use a
roundabout.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Are we cats?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I don't know All right next question what's the
meaning of life?

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Just living it, man, being here in the moment, making
memories while you can.
You only get one life.
Take it while you can and youknow, hell yeah, bud.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
You only control what you can control, right?
I got nothing left, that's allright, whatever.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
I would say making the lives of people around you
better.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
The meaning of life is making the lives of people
around you better.
The manual life is making thelives of people around you
better.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I like that.
That's really nice Babe.
No, but if you're not makingother people's experience better
.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
I don't know what you're doing, listen.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
I never thought that a year and a half ago I'd be
getting more than just apersonal trainer.
I've got a brother.
Now I've got family with thegym.
That's another huge flex of thewhole journey too Good things
come to good.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
There's a hundred people at that studio that love
Derek.
Oh, I bet Like love him.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I mean, you seem like a nice guy.
I don't know if you go home andkick puppies or not but, I mean
you know.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I have it on good authority that he doesn't.
Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
That's good, all right, your turn, bud my turn.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
All right, favorite style is a beer, oh Porter.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Oh okay, I love a Porter, that's good.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
I like a good Guinness every now and then like
a good thick beer, but I'mmostly a light guy.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Fun fact though Guinness low in calories, yeah
it, it's like 160.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Yeah, can you guys split the G?
I'm usually like a Michelob guybecause it's 90 calories per
can.
Guinness wouldn't be too faroff from that honestly.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Okay, everyone thinks , because Guinness is dark it's
more.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
but it's actually not .
Oh, it's a meal.
It's a meal.
Yeah, it's just the nitro.
I'm going to try to split the Gnext week, I think, split the
center.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
It's a trend, it's a new trend.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
It's a new trend, that Guinness created.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Brilliant on their part.
Okay, interesting, I'm going totry it next week.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Cool, fun, all right, geez, I had one, then I lost it
.
Now I've got to find it.
Oh man, probably wasn't five,four, okay, sure, uh.
What job would you be doing?
Uh, if you any dream jobtomorrow, you woke up, what
would it be?
Derrick?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
it came down to radio error or being a chef for me
you do have a sexy voice soundgood on the radio man, man or
the pod deal.
People will agree in thecomment section.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Yeah, you know I guess radio is a heck of a hard
time right now to you know.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
And number two is a singer.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Yeah, I guess, you know, I guess it could be a
singer.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Like you know, marvin Gaye or some Luther's Antrox, a
Yodeling.
Eater, a deadly set to spoilyour pride, so I, you know what,
get into it, derek man.
Come on, I'll go with it.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I'm absolutely doing my dream job now, yeah, but if
like Boring.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
I know, but if this was taken away from me tomorrow,
I'd be a firefighter.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Firefighter.
But if this was taken away fromme tomorrow, I'd be a
firefighter.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Firefighter Okay, cool, awesome, yeah.
Okay, your turn, dude.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I think we're almost done.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Maybe one or two more .
Well, that's what we'd be.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
We're on six and seven or something, I'm not
counting.
Anyway, the superpower.
If you could pick onesuperpower, what would it be?
Oh, this is compelling.

(52:19):
This is compelling, listening,just dull silence um time travel
, time travel.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
I would love to go back and live like the 80s and
when we're younger, like if youcould go back and do a certain
time in your life, just to maybenot even change anything, but
just to go back and experienceit again, experience again.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
You know you don't want to get into a paradox of
change.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
Well, it's crazy, because when you're a kid you
think you get all this time inthe world, and then you become
an adult year and then you'relike, holy shit, like this is
you know it's so much easierwhen I was back then you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Keep talking because I don't have any answer.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
It's true Every stage in your life.
Sometimes you think it's great,but there's also I think it's a
human negative trait wherepeople are like, oh, it's going
to be good in six months, it'sgoing to be good in a year, it's
going to be good in two years.
And one of my favorite quotesof all time from the office is I
wish we knew we were in thegood old days before we left
them.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
It's one of my favorite quotes.
You see those memes all thetime.
You see those memes all thetime.
They'll be shared on socialmedia.
This was the last time you andyour best friends rode your
bikes and you didn't realize it.
I get all my feels knife in thechest the last time you picked
your kids up and you don'trealize I'm a 12 year old, but I
still pick up every now andthen, just to be sure.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
I know that meme.
First time I saw that was yearsago and I sent it to all my
childhood friends.
I was like I miss you guys.
It's crazy Over to you.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Superpower.
I think I'd want to be able toread the future Read the future.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
We could do a lot of damage between me and you.
I think I just want to be ableto tell the future.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
It's my biggest pain point.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
You want the future, you want the past.
It's like my biggest pain point.
So you want the future, youwant the past.
All right, there you go.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
My biggest personal pain point is not knowing what
the future holds.
And yeah, that's an inch alittle bit different in a year,
but right now I'd say I'd wantto know the future.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
My next question I have to ask you first have
either one of you had any traumawith fire?
But that's a precursor to thequestion.
That's not the question, just ayes or no question, am I?

Speaker 2 (54:10):
going to upset you with the following question.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
No, no, like trauma I never had trauma with house
fires, but I used to think ofthat often, especially when I
was like can I be able to move?
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Here's my deep thought question.
Okay, hit me Both of you guys.
House is burning Tonight 12o'clock.
Wonderful question You're justgetting home from the Star.
Wars movie or whatever's intheaters.
You're getting home from StarWars, You're just getting home
from a movie and your house ison fire.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Your mom, your girlfriend and your cat's inside
Girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
One, two, three the third.
One's not going to's insideGirlfriend.
One, two, three the third.
One's not going to make it.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Girlfriend is number one and it's not even a question
.
And then mom, I guess.
And then yeah, fuck the cat.
I guess it's pretty easy for me.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
It's a pretty easy decision for me.
It'd be girlfriend or wife yourfirst choice.
Then I'd grab the cat, but mymom's already dead.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
So I wouldn't Okay.
Okay, I love her, but you knowWas she?

Speaker 4 (55:15):
cremated.
Was she cremated?
I don't know she actually.
I do have her ashes, so I guessI'd have to make sure I don't
grab that.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
It's like a there you go.
Wow, yeah, okay then, all right, I think we can go with our
last question, last and last.
You last the last one.
Okay, I'll ask the lastquestion.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
And I'll ask the final one.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
I'm going to ask one that we've asked a few different
people, and that's do youbelieve in ghosts?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
No.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
Yeah, I do yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Not a chance.
Derek's wrong.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
Yeah, not a chance.
Derek's wrong.
Yeah, it's okay to be wrong.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
He's an idiot, don't listen to him, it's okay to be
wrong, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
I didn't say you're a ghost real.
I said you believe in ghosts.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Technically you're both right, so I have a bit
about this, and that is that newghost stories stopped happening
when the internet became reallypopular.
Just the internet.
Yeah, Like ghost stories are athing that your uncles did
around the dining room tableplaying cards to entertain each
other.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Only your uncles, specifically uncles.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
And now that we're constantly entertained nobody
sees ghosts anymore.
I think ghosts are nonsense.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Okay, ghosts are nonsense.
What do you think, man you?

Speaker 4 (56:22):
said yes, I'm in on ghosts, you're in on ghosts,
yeah, cool, you believe.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah, no wrong answer there.
I mean, there is Our lastquestion we ask every guest is
this?
This is kind of the theme ofthis year.
What's one piece of advice thatyou were given that you want to
take with you and share withothers?
Just whatever.
It could come from any walk oflife, from a family or a friend,
or just something you read onthe Internet.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Piece of advice.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
So after everything with arnold went crazy on
twitter and blew up and I was onlike every radio show and
podcast from here to vancouver.
Yeah, I got a tweet one timefrom a person.
He said no matter what you do,don't stop posting, because you
don't know who you're going tohelp.
Yeah, wow, and you know.
And then it hit me because I'mlike, yeah, I was that guy you
know that's really good advice,I like that yeah, so that's why
I continue to suppose about ittoday.
Oh, yeah.
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
So mine is don't take criticism from someone you
wouldn't take advice from.
Ah, I like that.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
You heard that from me.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
And the B part of that is don't take advice from
anyone who doesn't have what youdon't want, so don't take
financial advice from poorpeople Don't take marriage
advice from divorced people.
Yeah, okay, poor people don'ttake marriage advice from
divorced people.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Yeah, that'd be mine.
There you go, but you couldlearn something from a divorced
person Fair enough.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
If they don't do, what?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
I did, I just spoke about this two hours ago.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Don't become a chef.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
I have 150 customers over there.
If there's a post about me onFacebook, I can get 120 comments
being like oh my God, rick'samazing, rick is fantastic.
If one person goes, oh, likethat was your experience, say
like I went there, I thought hewas a bit of a jerk.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
That one comment from a person that I wouldn't really
want to train with me anymore.
I didn't really enjoy havingthem.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yeah, yeah was that the guy that runs Halifax
Retailers?

Speaker 2 (58:10):
yeah, but that one negative comment and a sea of
positive comments people lovingyou ruined your whole day oh my
god, yeah, that's true, right,it's so funny.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
That's true, it's so funny we look for the negatives.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Sometimes we see on it he hasn't.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
He hasn't you know what, honestly, I had one, I
think when I first when a lazyold man is like always got
beautiful eyes one blue east,one blue west, one blue east.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Because my whole lazy eye thing me too besides that,
like you know, it's been alltotally gets like that too, when
he has enough beers.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
So yeah, so I got a mild lazy eye right, okay so
basically, if I take the glassesoff, oh yeah yeah, I think we
found out very late, man, ittakes about four to five beers
and then one of the eyes willstop moving.
It'll just give up, it justresigns.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
You know what People can make fun of it, though, but
you always got somebody watchingyour back, that's right.
You heard that Biggie joke.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I think I told it on this show before why didn't
Noise BIG have the lazy eye?

Speaker 3 (59:10):
To keep wandering around ditty at all times Still
holds up.
It's different now, yeah, soyou said you never really had
much negative stuff.
Honestly, no, I haven't.
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
There's been so much support and I mean I almost
expected it.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Because the internet's horrible sometimes.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
The internet's horrible, I mean.
I think the worst I got.
People were like oh, you'renever going to sustain because
it's not a vegan diet.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Or you're never going to sustain because it's not a
vegan diet or you're never goingto stay because it's not, you
know, okay.
Well, vegans are no fun, soright, yeah.
But besides that, no, it's beenthe only time a negative
comment really like takes holdis if it's the first comment if
there's 10 positive comments.
It's real hard to have theballs to yeah jump in with a
negative.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
That's true, that's true.
But you still the.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
You know they hide behind their no pictures and all
that stuff and they're probably, you know, like the size of me,
like when I was, you know, butthey feel that need to, you know
, to get in that little dig andit makes them feel good, I guess
, but you, know, I don't know,saying you're not going to

(01:00:15):
maintain yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
I already like, I already felt the rock bottom,
like there's nothing you can doto make me good, you know 100
people who like listen to thisstatement inspired by either one
of you.
Uh, how do they follow you?
How do they find you?

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
yeah, yeah, you can find me like.
Uh, I'm on like on x, I guess,twitter um chefy bone, chef
bones ns is my handle there.
Uh, I do a lot more posting onfacebook.
I open my account as a digitalcreator so people can follow me
along there.
So just derrick bona onfacebook, I'm on tiktok.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Yeah, we're two are d-r-i-c-k-b-o-n-a.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Yeah, you know, but uh, you can follow me on there
and maybe you'll inspire.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Yeah, and I'm on Facebook.
I'm on a bunch as well.
I'm on Instagram, but I haven'tposted on Instagram in months.
But, like Facebook, I'm onFacebook almost every day.
I'm RickMyTrainer andRickMyTrainercom.
Rickmytrainercom that's easyCool.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Alright, well, gentlemen, it was awesome
meeting you, Thank you so muchfor coming in and hanging out.
Yeah, cheers, cheers, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Appreciate it and thank you so much to Hardesty
Brewing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Yeah, absolutely, this has been really nice.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
What were we all drinking?
We should just look at itbefore the end.
You go through yours herebecause you had the non-alcohol.
Yeah, so I have a non.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
It's very, very chill .
It's fantastic.
Zero calories, my trainer, zerocalories.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Mine is not zero calories.
I guess you should have hadthat one.
I have the Heritage IPA andit's fantastic.
I like their entire range ofproducts, sir, and their bar is
right across from my studio, sowe often, after class, a bunch
of us will pop over here quiteoften I'm having the old Sidney
Crosby and Nathan McKinnon beer8729.

(01:01:52):
8729.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
It's a bummer, nobody knows this number.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Two of the goats, I guess.
Yeah, two of the goats, forsure, yeah so I had their maple
pecan brown ale.
Damn, that sounds fancy.
It was really good.
It's a drink and a dessert.
All right guys, Hit the spotWell.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Really good.
Yeah, it's a drink and adessert.
All right, guys Hit the spot.
Well, that's it.
We're all done, we can go home.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Thank you very much, fellas.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
It was awesome to meet you yeah.

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Derrick Bona & Rick Horsman - A weight loss journey in losing over 250lbs and the fitness trainer who had his back.

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