Jalen Philpot - His football evolution and CFL Journey with the Calgary Stampeders - Afternoon Pint

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Cheers and welcome to the Afternoon Plane.
I'm Mike Tobin.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I am Matt Conrad who do we have here.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's Jalen Philpott, wide receiver for the Calgary
Stampeders.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
How's it going, Jalen ?
Yeah, what's going on?
You look a lot like a guestthat we've had before.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Yeah, just seven minutes older.
That's it.
You guys are twins.
We are identical twins.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Okay wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Anyone who remembers we had Tyson on last year almost
around this time?
Yeah, I think so it was prettyclose, yeah, it was.
And yeah, we tried to connectwith you and you were coming and
going stuff like that a littlebit, but we finally got you on.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, I'm excited, in case we missed the Tyson
episode like.
So who are you?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
What do you do for a living?
I am Jalen Felfaugh, obviouslyTyson's twin.
I play wide receiver for thecalgary stampeters.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Uh also play in the canadian football league, so
amazing.
Yeah, yeah, it's uh, andrecently just signed I did.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, I resigned with calgary for another two years
so I wasn't sure I couldn'tremember, yeah, I signed through
2026 now so excited about thatthat's pretty exciting.
Yeah, it is yeah I've been incalgary for, I want to say,
seven years now.
I even catch myself tellingpeople I'm from calgary.
Oh, yeah, so uh I'm adopting it.
You know vancouver guy, so somepeople think it's funny that I
adopt calgary over vancouverjust because everyone loves bc.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
But I love alberta calgary awesome, I love calgary
too.
What do you love the most aboutcalgary?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
uh, I mean the people there, they're super cool.
You know, I feel like vancouverhas that kind of hipster.
Uh, I want to be cooler thanyou kind of vibe sometimes and
uh, you know, having lived there, nobody's extra cooler than
anyone else?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
cowboy, yeah, it is super more cowboy and uh, no
traffic.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I think that's the biggest thing no traffic, yeah,
okay, yeah, I don't know if Ihad that same experience there's
parts with traffic there.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
But like for the, I guess by and large the right to
the c train there oh yeah, it'sis.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's a very well.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
thought of city.
They engineered it well yeah.
And then the suburbs are weirdtoo.
They're all like the samesuburb.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, they all look the same.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
You could drop Matt in like one Calgary suburb and
not know which suburb you're inLike you would think is this
Okotoks or is this some otherplace, some other place, and a
lot of them look very similar.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I mean, those are things you can do with cities
that are like kind of on openland, that you can do quadrants
and then you can just build likecircles because that's what
they did in calgary.
They built older circles andthen, when the city gets bigger,
they build another high when itgoes around.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, the ring road, we call it.
Yeah, right, yeah, it's almostlike a dartboard.
Yeah, it legit does it's soefficient.
Though I'm not gonna lie, no,that's true.
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
You know when you don't, when you don't have.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Like you know all, your brother plays in montreal
that's an island so there's lotsof traffic there exactly like
they have like three bridges andthat's it and one of them might
collapse at any moment.
Exactly, it drives me crazywhenever, especially when I go
back to vancouver too, and I'mjust it takes me an hour to get
somewhere that should only takeme 10 minutes and it's just like
I know I left this city forsure.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
So shout out if you're listening to Vancouver.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Sorry about that, but you know, I get it, though,
because you've been playing nowin Calgary for a while.
Yeah, because that's where youwent to university.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, exactly Went to university in 2018 there
and obviously got drafted byCalgary four years ago now, so
2021 or 2022, actually.
So, yeah, it's just a city'sdefinitely adopted me too, so
it's super nice.
They love the dinos there,calgary dinos, that's where I
went, so and obviously, like youguys talked about, with my
brother, we won a nationalchampionship, so that's right,

(03:14):
thank you.
Yeah, I haven't done that.
You know they try to do it for30 years and I think we'd been
in the vanier six or seven times, uh, in that 30 year span and
just couldn't get it done.
You know, laval had our numberfor a couple years they had
everybody's number for 20 years.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Very true, still do they, still do they're still the
dominant that they are.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
But uh yeah, and we finally got it done and we're
able to beat montreal.
So that was big for the cityand just big for the program as
well yeah, that was.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
That was cool.
It must be also extra special,obviously, to win with your
brother too yeah, 100.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
You know, we've definitely kind of gone back and
forth with each other for mvpsand awards and stuff like that,
so it was cool to finally do anational championship level uh
trophy.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
But you also had a really good game too, like for
the van gang, because he scoreda touchdown and he had over 100
yards.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like yeah, yeah, it was a huge game for me.
I mean, that year kind of was aproving year for me.
It's funny With Tyson and I,like I said, it's one or the
other.
So in high school we werealways back and forth.
He'd win MVP and I'd get likebest running back, and then
following year I'd win MVP andhe'd get best receiver.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
What's it really like , though?
Is there animosity?
There, I'd be aggressivelycompetitive.
If my twin brother was in thesame league as me, I'd be
wanting to crack a skull.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's definitely very competitive.
There's lots of chirping goingon when we're in the car after
the games and stuff like that.
So yeah, just bringing us backto that Vanier year, tyson
unfortunately got injured attraining camp I think he broke a
metatarsal on his foot but theprevious year before that he'd
won rookie of the year and had avery dominant season and I had
a decent year as a rookie.

(04:50):
But obviously I wasn't able towin rookie of the year like he
won.
So I kind of had a chip on myshoulder for that year and
obviously, knowing that he wasgoing to be out for a little bit
, I was like all right, let metake it on myself to prove
myself and show my worth.
And yeah, I was a first teamall canadian that year as well
and I think I led the league ortop three.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I think I led the top three in the league for like
average yards per game and stuffso really good year for me, for
sure so going back when youwere talking about, like in high
school, so then you weretalking about you were at a
running back, yeah, yeah, so Ididn't know that you're running
back in high school.
Yeah, so, but what I did noticeyeah, this is starting to make
a lot of sense, because 20 ofyour yards are running, are

(05:27):
rushing yards.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yes, yes, they are, yeah, yeah.
So it still happens in the cflyou know they still take
advantage of that uh I mean, Iuh, it's crazy, it's funny story
how I switched from runningback to receiver.
So my dad uh was running back.
Yeah, he was running back heplayed in the cfl, was very uh
fortunate to have some goodyears there and uh.
So I definitely took after himuh growing up.

(05:48):
You know I wanted to be likehim all my game after him.
Uh, his nickname was quick sixso he liked to score touchdowns
fast.
Essentially that's why he gotthat nickname.
So, yeah, just trying to belike him, and uh played running
back uh up until, obviously,university.
I also played running back uhfor team canada and stuff like
that.
So I mean they uh kind of gotoffered to play running back and

(06:10):
I also got off to play db alittle bit but, I knew I wanted
to play offense.
So it was kind of like, hey, doyou want to play running back or
do you want to play receiver?
And uh, I just rememberwatching practice and watching
tyson score so many times inpractice versus as a running
back.
Linebackers and D-line theylike to tag off on you and tell
you like hey, you're tackled.
And that just really got to me.
Tyson was dominantly scoring.

(06:32):
You know, as a receiver, if youcatch a 70-yard touchdown on
someone, they can't say anythingabout that.
So something about thatintrigued me a little bit.
So I was like, let me go playwide receiver and test that out
a little bit.
So when did you switch?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
So first year at university.
It was first year.
Oh, it was first year.
So you came right out and justwent for it, yeah, right away.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Just went straight to wide receiver and definitely
had some learning curves forsure.
You know, tracking the balldownfield was different for me.
Obviously, I got the ballhanded off to me right away.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
So just having that ball right away was such a nice
feeling.
So, uh, I had to work oncatching a little bit and work
with tyson a little bit, but uh,he was pretty good at that.
So it's easy, teacher.
Yeah, that's, it's really good.
Yeah, because it's you, you,you often see running backs be
like the check down guys.
Yeah, you don't see it oftenthat the receiver is a running
back you see it sometimes, yeah,not too much.
So I but I just noticed that,especially your cfo career, it's

(07:28):
been yeah yeah, they definitelyhave sprinkled in uh, some
running plays here and there.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I think I've averaged 100 yards per year.
I think my uh carry average isaround seven or eight yards.
So pretty, pretty efficient forsure.
And again, when I get in thatbackfield and I take handoffs I
just feel like a natural runningback again.
You know, I played it for awhile, so super comfortable and
I'm excited.
This year they've kind ofmentioned that we're really
going to get into it and, uh,have me some design plays and

(07:54):
stuff like that kind of like adebo samuel uh effect kind of
with the 49ers.
So I'm super, super excitedjust to be involved that way and
just any way I can touch theball and make some plays so yeah
, depot samuel's probably abetter way to now I was.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
I'm a patriots fan he doesn't be patriots for a long
time but, he stayed there and Ireally appreciated him, was
corduroy paterson, and that'skind of what I was seeing you as
, because you were doing someyou'd also do, like returns and
stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, cordo paterson, man, he's army knife, yeah, he
is and I mean that's funny thatyou say that, because that's
what they call me in Calgary.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
No, there you go.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Any of the interviews they'll be like yeah, that's
our Swiss Army knife.
So I mean I did special teamsand stuff like that too.
My first year led the leagueand kickoff return average yards
too.
So just been kind of one ofthose guys where I just want to
make plays whenever the ballgets in my hand.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Just a natural football player.
Exactly Whatever, billbelichick would love you, I'd
love to have bill belichick.
It's all about just playingfootball, right?
Yeah, you must be, like youknow, a pretty freak athlete
because if you're sitting thereplaying receiver, running back
and db we talked about this withyour brother about how dbs are

(08:57):
generally the most athletic 100they are, yeah, they definitely
are.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I just feel like I gotta give a lot of uh obviously
to my dad and just I mean myfootball IQ.
I just love the game offootball.
You know, I can sit down andtalk about it, decipher defenses
, coverages, stuff like that.
That's why I always feel likethere's a coaching is going to
come in later on in my career,just because it's just a game of
football.
It's just super If you diveinto it.

(09:20):
There's a lot of intricaciesand it's almost like a chess
match back and forth withcoordinators.
So I just find it so cool, so Imean uh, to be still playing
and to be able to look into kindof that depth.
I think it's helps out my gamefor sure oh, 100, I hope you get
into coaching.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I mean, I'd love to start coaching.
I mean I never played at yourlevel, but you know, I I played
up until about two, three yearsago.
100 and, uh, you know, playedand I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
But I'd like to eventually get into coach my son
when he's three, but yeah, I'dlike to get into coaching when
he can start playing.
Yeah, no, it's, it's so cool andit's also like a full circle
moment for me, obviously, withthe stamps, getting to do all
these kind of uh kids camps andall that kind of stuff, because
obviously I'm a canadian, I wasborn in canada, so I grew up on
the cfl and doing all thoselittle camps and stuff, with the

(10:07):
cfl players coming and, uh,just watching us run around and
do that kind of stuff.
I was always that kid that waslike I'm gonna be playing in
this league beside you.
You might not know it yet, butI'm gonna do it.
So it's so cool for me to beable to go to those camps and
look for those kind of kids, youknow the ones that are
challenging me and, hey, I'mbetter than you, you see that a
lot.
I do see it a lot and it's kindof interesting because I'm like

(10:27):
okay, I'm going to follow you onInstagram because I feel like
you do have some talent and I'minterested to see your career,
especially as a Canadian.
I think it's super cool.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Heck.
Yes, I love that.
I think it.
In the times we're in, we wantto pump up Canada 100% oh yeah,
exactly, it's good here to pumpup Canada man.
That being said, man, can wejust go to four downs?
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I agree with you.
I think anyone who's playedfootball agrees to this.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Why can't we just do it?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, I think four downs.
You know, you keep the rulesthe same, you keep the field the
same, you just add just adds anextra excitement to the game.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I know, uh, defensive coordinators don't want that.
You know there's already somuch passing and so many
offenses.
I'm going to jump in just for afew seconds.
Yeah, now, this is uh, this isfor people that you know, say,
okay, I watched the nfl foryears.
Right, this year I'm going towatch cfl.
Okay, okay, yeah, when does itstart?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
it starts in june starts in june season starts in
june.
About mid-june they're a summerleague summer league.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Okay, and what?

Speaker 3 (11:27):
does it end?
It ends, uh, november.
I think the great cups aroundnovember 20th this year.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
So where do you watch the games?

Speaker 3 (11:35):
well, indoor stadiums , bc or sorry.
On television we got it on tsn,uh right, I think they've
recently reached out toSportsnet.
There was another, or maybe itwas CTV.
I think I want to say it wasCTV.
They were covering some of thegames, more of the East Coast
games.
So for the people of NovaScotia, ottawa had a lot of the

(11:56):
games.
I know Montreal did as well.
But yeah, tsn and CTV, I thinkthose are the two main places
right now to find all the games.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
And how do we make it four downs?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
well, there actually is no commissioner right now.
So I think if there was achance, yeah, yeah, he just
resigned, yeah, and I know theseason uh schedule got delayed
just because they've been tryingto find a commissioner and
somebody to kind of prove allthe stuff, so all right, I'll do
it.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, exactly go get to that and my last newbie
question why should people watchthe CFL instead of the NFL?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I mean, I think just about our point too, just
growing the Canadian game.
You know, it's funny that a lotof people don't know that the
CFL was around before the NFL.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, it's an older game.
Yeah, it was, it was foundedbefore we actually taught the
Americans football.
Yeah, what?
Seriously, it's sport.
I want to see that heritagemoment.
So what happened was in caseyou don't know the history, but
it was rugby was brought tonorth america and then basically
what happened was the mostlycanada, because we were in
canada first.

(12:54):
I mean, people were playingrugby and the rules started to
modify a little bit in canadaversus and stayed this kind of
the same because they havegaelic football over in in
ireland and the uk and stuffright, and the rules started to
kind of the same because theyhave gaelic football over in in
ireland and the uk and stuffright, and the rules started to
kind of change.
And then it was taught, likeyou know, spread down to the new
england states and all thatstuff, and they started to make
their own rules.
The thing that people don'trealize is that the rules it's

(13:15):
not like canada ripped off theunited states or united states
ripped off canada the rulesactually were, because this is
100 years ago.
You know what, there's nointernet they were created
separately.
They were actually at the exactsame parallel times, kind of
modifying and evolving the sportat the exact same time.
What year-ish was that Like?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
1900s, 1800s what?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
The Grey Cup's been going around for.
Oh, maybe hold on.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
How old are they?
Early 1900s, it's like 1904.
Okay, so it was early.
It's like 1904.
Yeah, okay, so it was early.
It's real early.
Wow, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, we're over 100 Grey Cups now.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, it's like 117 Grey Cups yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
And I don't know if the Super Bowl is at 100 yet.
And I'm almost done no, SuperBowl is not Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
their first year was 67.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
yeah, okay but, before that they had the nfl
right right before, and they hadthe afl afl champion, nfl afl
joined, become the nf like thenfl, I do remember.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah so, yeah so.
And the football?
Why is it still bigger?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
yeah, I, so I think I don't quote me on this.
I think there was like 2018.
They made a little bit of achange to the cfl ball, so I
think it's similar.
I think it's a little fatterstill, but uh, they like the
lengthwise and stuff is theexact same and the.
Also a difference on it is theNFL ball doesn't have like a
white spiral on the tip of itright versus CFL does.

(14:34):
It does make a big differencegoing down the states trying to
catch some of those NFLfootballs.
It's a lot harder to trackwithout that white spiral on it.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I was really sorry, man.
You can tell I don't watch alot of sports.
I'm trying, yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
So that's my sports sessions for dummies, ladies,
and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
No, that's exactly what we need, because there's
probably people who are going tolisten to this and be like I
don't know anything aboutfootball.
Yeah, well, like.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I want to invest in Canadian sports.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And I think, like you know, I watch the Super Bowl
every year.
Right, Everyone does.
Yeah, Super Bowl parties.
The Grey Cup had, in my opinion, a better act.
Oh.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
I know you're, he's a Kendrick guy.
He's a Kendrick guy, no, no.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
They had Green Day.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh yeah, so Green Day is pretty awesome.
Green Day is pretty awesome.
Tyson's year yeah, they hadGreen Day awesome.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
They're both awesome artists in their own right.
I don't even want to saynothing bad about either one of
them.
Kendrick Lamar, though, I thinkis.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
No, I think it was a great show.
That was a cultural moment.
I thought it was the coolestthing I've ever seen.
Well, you and I both agree thatI'm not even a big Kendrick fan
.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I was blown away.
I felt like I went to a greatjob and you know what?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I actually liked how he went kind of a little bit
back to basics.
It wasn't extravagant.
Katy Perry rode a dinosaur.
The weekend ran through.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
You don't need to do anything when you have Samuel L
Jackson with you.
It's very good, that's true.
He just made it so much better,but some of the best shows to
me were Tom Petty and Prince.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think is honestly the standard for me, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Prince.
Prince was one of the best.
It was 100% and he didn't doanything crazy.
I'm too young to rememberMichael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I never saw Michael Jackson?
I saw it, but he was theoriginal.
Like later.
Michael Jackson.
Mj was the original of thestars, because before that they
used to just have like theoklahoma band yeah, yeah, you
might get the odd person to comeout and sing or whatever, but
it was like michael jackson wasa mega star and he decided to do
the halftime show and like fromthat point on it was like

(16:34):
everybody wants to do it.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, exactly like you got so ridiculous at one
time.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
There was like years where there's like nine stars
like the year like, well, youknow, like the janet Jackson,
everybody knows about that year,but like she was there, jt was
there, kid Rock was there, diddywas there.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, a minor.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
But like man, like they like.
It's a crazy history, right.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
And they don't get paid for it.
Yeah, they don't get paid forit, but their sales go nuts.
No, I know the next day that'sjust trade-off, I think,
kendrick.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Lamar's sales were at 421% the next day?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
No, they get paid, it's just not from the NFL.
Yeah, it's true, very true,that guy's having a crazy year
right.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Poor.
Drake, I mean I want to supporthim Speaking of Canadian being
a Canadian, but it's just likeah, he had a bad week.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
The Grammys happened and then the Super.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Bowl happened.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
True enough.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
That was a rough week .
I'm a Drake fan.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
It's a tough year for us, but he'll bounce back.
I hope so.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
I just heard that new album, though Maybe he'll come
back with another album I'mhoping to.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
It wasn't the one we were looking for, that's for
sure.
No, it wasn't oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Sorry to go way off track.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, it is what it is.
That's kind of.
That's kind of part of the show, the tangent a little bit so
yeah, I mean, I agree Peopleneed to watch CFL more supported
.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
I mean we lost touchdown Atlantic last year,
two years in a row, and I thinkthey're a huge success.
I actually covered it two yearsyears.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I wrote articles for it, two years in a row, that's
cool and uh, I was excited to dofor a third and why did we lose
it?
Because it was, it seemed to beselling okay, you know what it
makes no sense.
So, uh, what's his?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
name.
I heard something about torontooh yeah, so what I?
Heard is that toronto alwaysplayed in it out here and so
their ticket sales for homegames last year went up.
So they always had to give,basically like take away a home
game to come play in it.
So their ticket sales went up.
So they were like hey, like wedon't want to come to Nova

(18:36):
Scotia, we want to stay and playa home game.
Makes sense, so that's one ofthe reasons why I mean we're in
Calgary.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
We're why I mean we're in calgary, we're like
we'll go like, but they don'twant to pay for our travel from
calgary to nova scotia.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I guess it can't be that bad, but I mean, yeah, we
always want it like a wholebunch of rabid new fans.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think next year you bring it back and it's calgary
versus montreal.
That would be so awesome, andthe maritimes they do have a
real deep connection do theytalk well from labor, right, you
know, because I mean you knowso many Newfoundlanders.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Nova Scotians go over there to work.
A lot of great relationships.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Oh, there's yeah, there's tons of Maritimers in
Calgary Decades.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, I mean I've always said that I'd volunteer.
Once Nova Scotia got a CFL team, I would sign up easily
no-transcript doesn't reallyunderstand super different the

(19:34):
rouge is different.
Yeah, so there's one point youcan kick.
You can either miss the fieldgoal or punt the ball through
the back of the end zone and youget one point.
So there's been a lot ofcontroversy over that because,
uh, team, I think it was torontoversus saskatchewan this year,
I can't remember exactly butbasically toronto didn't even
need to make the field goal,they just had to kick it very
far, so that just went throughthe end zone.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
So right they're gonna say like it's, so it's no
skill exactly no skill, justmiss the field goal and just win
by one point basically as longas you kick it and it goes
through the end zone, because ifyou kick it far enough and
someone can return it.
That's why when you see anyfield goal in the CFL, someone's
standing in the end zone,waiting for the ball to drop so
they can at least run it out andthen there's no point.

(20:16):
But if you can kick it past,through.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
It's a point and you can't return it.
Yeah, there's nothing you cando.
So I think I told your brotherin the podcast I actually lost a
football game that was rainyand and we lost one nothing.
Oh, no way.
Uh, yeah.
So there's guys like you whowould love to see that rule gone
.
I'm sure like, yes, yeah, Iknow it's, it's, it's a funny
way to win, but I mean, it'spart of the rule, so you got to
use it as your advantage.
So I can't say I've ever lostby that.

(20:41):
I know tyson had a verycontroversial game.
I want to say it was his rookieyear and same kind of thing.
They were tied going into itand I think it was against
winnipeg and they went to kickthe game-winning field goal and
they missed.
So he was in the back of theend zone and he caught in the
back and basically had to jukeout four or five guys just to
get out of the end zone andeveryone was talking about like
how that's the play of the game,like doesn't matter about what

(21:02):
happened in the rest of the game, like if he doesn't do that,
they don't win.
So it is pretty crazy how itcan come down to that.
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
So yeah, you were saying about other rules.
I mean, the field's different.
Yeah, it is wider, bigger,longer.
Uh, the end zone.
This is another thing.
I would actually change goalpost.
Gotta be back back the end zone.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I know, yeah, it's in , it's in the way, exactly.
Yeah, I'm sure if you're tryingto run up the middle and that's
in the middle, or?

Speaker 2 (21:27):
if you're trying to receive anything, it's like it's
in the way of so we had likethat.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
So what are we doing?
Better, uh, what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Those are some of the things we do like uh what we're
doing better is, I think,actually with the receivers
being able to start running.
Yeah, wagg, yeah, it's waybetter versus like you have to
be stopped.
I mean, if you're the wideoutsin the NFL, you have to have two
wideouts on the line.
They can't move, they have to berested.
So they're dead, stop and theyhave to go.
Now anyone it's hard to getinto, I guess technical

(21:59):
formation or whatever, butbasically there's also receivers
.
You can have one or tworeceivers that are not on the
line that can move around allthey want, but it's only those
ones who can move around allthey want.
Versus the CFL, the line isjust there.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
It's just the alignment, and then they can
just go.
So it's a lot more, I'd say,confusing for defensive players.
Obviously, you've got guysmoving from side to side and
trying to watch that.
But when you say, what are wedoing better?
Uh, technically, like stat wise, uh, canadian football is a
more fun, explosive game, likeour offensive numbers are.
We have higher passing yards,higher, I want to.

(22:36):
I don't know about rushingyards, but I know passing yards
for sure.
I know, like our touchdowns andstuff like that, like points
per game, is way higher in thecfl and they.
One of the reasons why theydon't want to remove uh three
downs to four is because, uh,special teams are supposed to be
like like something that youcan win the game on, basically,
and cfl, like nfl, they'vechanged the kickoff return and

(22:57):
stuff.
So there's not really anythingexciting going on with special
teams.
But with cfl they want, likethey want you to return.
So like returners, uh have afive yard halo when they're
receiving the ball, so that theyhave to run the ball.
You can't just fair catch itand not run.
So they're really trying toenforce.
That's why that rouge rule isthere too.
You can run it out.
They just really want to try tomake it a part of the game for

(23:18):
sure the nfl has essentiallylike ruined special teams they
have yeah they have ruined a lotof the things.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
They've taken a lot of the things away.
I think of a guy going backPatriots fan, a guy like Matt
Slater, who was like a decadelong like pro bowler, one of the
best special teams guys you'dever see.
We won't see guys like him.
No, you won't.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
You won't at all you won't unless you're playing and
watching cfl football.
That's the only time.
Yeah, that's the only timethose are your performers.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like those are the funnest people to watch,
sometimes like well specialteams yes and no.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
I mean special teams, the.
The highlights that people seein special teams is, like you
know, a guy just returned 105yards touchdown right and
everyone, and he just missed.
He missed the whole thing yeah,exactly, yeah, that's super
exciting, yeah cool.
We're never.
This is a good time to announceof the the new afternoon pint
special teams t-shirts thatwe're going to be putting out
there you go okay, yeah, I thinkthat would be awesome, that

(24:08):
would be yeah, guys, it's red.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
It's only 30 and you can find it on our website.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah there you go.
It's red like the cow.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, exactly, red like cow, I'll take.
One I'll take one.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
So the with football, obviously we got from your dad
kind of going, I guess, back toyou know, back when you were
kids and everything.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
You got it from your dad, but were both you and your
brother like instantly, likeyeah, we want to play football.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, you know, I definitely have memory of
football from day one.
You know I remember playingfootball in my house, tackling
my brother, like we were justconstantly going at it.
But obviously my dad, he wasjust always involved with it.
You know he played for a whilebut ever since I can remember he
was either my coach or coachingother people.
So I spent a lot of afternoonson the football field.

(24:53):
You know he coached juniorfootball in BC, so that's like
17, 18, 19 year olds, I think iteven goes up to 23 year olds.
So I was basically watchingsemi-pro and was surrounded by
guys who were semi-pro andwanting to go to the higher
level.
So I just kind of always foundthat was super cool and always,
always trying to show the guyslike, hey, I can do this, I can
do that.

(25:13):
So I think from a young agethere was just that kind of
determination.
I mean, and if you ask tysontoo, we always used to hear like
do you know who your dad is, doyou know?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
what he did, those kind of things.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
So we would always respond like do you know who we
are?
Do you know what?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
we're gonna do kind of thing, so that's awesome yeah
.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
So we we always had that chip on our shoulder and we
felt like, okay, if he was thisgreat, we're gonna be better.
So I think that really helpedwith our motivation to play.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
So who influenced you when you were younger Outside
of your dad, obviously, Outsideof my dad.
You know you're watching.
You're watching guys, you'regrowing up, you're seeing like
who influenced your style ofplay, or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, I was a big Pittsburgh Steelers fan.
That's my team still to thisday.
It's funny, the colors that Iwore as a six and seven year old
were Pittsburgh Steelers colors, so I want to say that
influenced me.
But I was a big RashadMendinghall fan.
You got to be like a diehardSteelers fan to kind of remember
that name or a football fan fora while.
But he was really explosive.

(26:02):
He was fast Like he kind of hadall the traits and I think he
was one of those early runningbacks to catch the ball out of
the backfield as well.
Yeah, I actually didn't know.
My dad had good hands, but I'veseen some tape from him and he
had some pretty good hands, so Iguess that's where it came from
.
But yeah, just that receivingkind of and fast running back,

(26:22):
I'd say he from early age forsure.
Uh, it's definitelytransitioned to receivers now.
Yep, uh, model my game afterjustin jefferson.
Okay, obviously we talk aboutdebo samuel guys like that kind
of just do everything, uh, superinfluential to their team.
You know, just kind of plug mein coach and I'll do whatever I
got to do.
So it's those are guys that Ireally look up to for sure yeah,
yeah, jeff jefferson's.
Yeah, another freak athlete yeah, he's a stud and there's that

(26:44):
receiver show on netflix, soit's really cool.
Yeah, they kind of got to pickhis brain and see what he does
on a day-to-day basis when he'snot around football, and I think
we're just super similar offthe field too, so just he's an
overall super cool guy.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah.
So yeah, steelers, what do youthink of that stuff?
Right?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
now yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Do you think it's time to move on from Tomlin?

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I feel like that is a conversation that needs to be
had for sure.
I mean, was it 18 or 19, or 18in a row, I think, where he's
plus 500.
So they've been even you knowhe's winning?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
yeah, he's winning, but obviously we're not winning
those matters, those exactlythat's.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
That's the unfortunate thing.
We've been the kings of regularseason, dominant uh, going into
the playoffs with two wins andthen not making it past first
round.
So I want to give him one moreyear.
You know, there's some uhrumors stuff going on right now
with our quarterback situation.
Obviously I don't think we'rebringing russ back, doesn't seem
that way I think fields.
You know, if we get rid of russ, it'd be smart to bring him
back.

(27:41):
But I mean, there's been rumorsthat we're leaning towards
aaron rogers right now so I'veheard yeah, so we'll see.
You know, I I'm a fan of aaronrogers.
He's, he was a stud at onepoint, so I think it'll be
interesting.
You know, I think that is a guy, though, that we could bring in
and potentially, you know, makea run for a championship.
You know, I feel like we're notin the time to develop a guy.

(28:01):
I think we're ready to justbring a guy in, and we have the
team.
Obviously we went 12 and three,so our defense is solid yeah,
no, defense is fantastic, yeah,so let's go for a championship.
So I'm interested to see uh whathappens here in the next year
or two, but I think that uh miketommy might be on the chopping
block coming up soon, though notgonna surprise me.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Yeah, I know, yeah, king of, I mean he did win like
he does?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
he won early in his year.
He did?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
he did win a championship, but ever since
then I I wonder, often wonder ifit's because of the player
coach mentality.
Fair enough of like.
He's just too like.
Player coach is kind of a termfor someone like a coach that
just can't be firm, he's likecatering to the players and all
it's really relaxed.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Players coach, players coach kind of thing
right.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
So it's like, yeah, he might be that I mean the
players will play for you.
They definitely will.
Yeah, they show up, they win,they have winning seasons.
He's he's right now I believehe's the longest like most
consecutive coach for plus 500team plus 500 wins, winning
seasons?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
yeah, he definitely is.
Yeah, but I know it's one ofthose things we'll see, but I I
feel like, uh, he's won thechampionships already, so that's
why I'm not mad at it.
You know, if we, but it isunfortunate that we I think
steelers he's the third orfourth head coach in franchise
so it's huge, it's like.
If you look at all the other,like oakland for instance, I
think they had eight new coachesin the last two years or

(29:16):
something like that.
So we're one of those storiedfranchises, so it is bittersweet
.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
That is a huge accomplishment.
It is Like when you think abouta franchise that has been
around for I don't even knowwhat it is like 60 years.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
And they've had three head coaches.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
It's huge, right, that is huge.
So I mean good culture For sure, good football culture yeah it
is and I know it's kind of crazytoo one of the stories.
So my first year, obviously, Igot injured towards the end of
the season in the CFL and thefirst team that called me up for
NFL workout was the PittsburghSteelers.
So it was unfortunate because Iwas hurt.

(29:55):
So, it was.
But Tyson got to go and do thecamp.
He did, yeah, he got to go dothe camp for me.
So super cool and he brought mea cool little uh memorabilia.
So felt, felt that could haveshowed up with with with just
your name I know he could haveeasily.
Yeah, exactly, I know theythink that you were amazing oh
yeah, because they knew you gothurt.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
And then this guy out there just doing, just back,
yeah, yeah that's so true.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I should have done that honestly.
And that's one of the questionsI always get to is do you and
tyson pretend to be each other,right?
In high school, people used toask us that too, and it's like
no, I don't want to pretend tobe tyson, like that's fair.
You know, we're our own person.
I think that's definitely grownnow, with us playing on
separate teams.
That was one of the big things.
Uh, even when we were gettingdrafted, teams would ask us like

(30:36):
hey, you guys gonna be okayplaying apart from each other,
like you've played together foryour whole life.
We're like yes, we, we want toplay apart from each other like
we're ready to make our ownpaths and stuff, so that
probably happens a lot withtwins, yeah, you just get
grouped as one person, exactly100, I don't think.
Uh, there was a time where I'dget asked hey, where's Tyson?
When I walk into a room alone,it's like I don't know where
Tyson is.
Go ask him, kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Twin intuition, just saying, but.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I definitely think there's pros and cons to that,
though, too, because I was neverbored.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
That's one thing as a kid never bored.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I always had someone to pick on or get under his skin
or do something.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Or if we're outside playing basketball, we're
playing together, so I thinkthere is some pros and cons to
it and I'm definitely gratefulfor it, for sure.
So moving, uh, from universityto cfl, like what was the
biggest like we asked this tysontoo what was the hardest
transition for you, like thebiggest shock of like, oh shit I
think it was a commitment level.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
You know they uh, you obviously you're in university,
right, so you're takinguniversity uh style courses and
uh hard classes and stuff, butthen they're expecting you to be
this.
You know where we had full ride.
So we were expected to be theseall-star football players but
it was like hold on, like tryingto learn how to do math and and
all these university courses,and then we got 8 am workouts

(31:50):
where class starts at 10 am.
So you're banging out yourworkout for an hour and a half
and then straight from that yearto class and then you're
expected to go straight to thestadium after that because your
first meeting starts at threeo'clock.
So hopefully you line yourschedule up where you could
maybe go home and have a snackor something.
I know there's some days for mewhere it was straight to the
stadium after uh school and thenyou're in your first meeting

(32:11):
for an hour and then you go toyour after that it's special
teams and then you go tooffensive meeting and then you
might have like a short 30minute team meeting and then
we're on the field, which isaround six o'clock and six to
eight you're practicing and thenyou got another meeting after
that.
So we're getting out of thestadium at around 9, 9, 30 and
then it's like, oh, we'resupposed to go home and study,
like I'm tired, I'm hungry,right.

(32:33):
So that was definitely, I think, the biggest shell shock to me
was okay, I got to be committedand no one's gonna hold my hand.
You know, like we, we have Iknow guys who just couldn't
handle it.
You know just too much on theirplate and they decided either
hey, I just want to focus onschool or I want to focus on
something outside of football.
So I felt like that was one ofthe biggest thing.
You know the commitment level,but you definitely find that if

(32:55):
you want it bad enough, you'llfind a love for it.
And I definitely felt like Idid and I just got a good
schedule and got lots of peersthat were able to help me, and
university of calgary wasawesome with that, with tutors
and just little, little stufflike that, just to make sure
your grades and everything's onpoint and you're eligible to
play.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
So it's probably.
Then you get drafted, yeah, andyou get to stay in the same
city.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
You don't have to move.
No, that was super.
That's probably awesome.
That was super cool.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
So then going to the cfl, like what, like.
What was the biggest shock forthat like?
Yeah you know, moving fromuniversity to cfl yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
So I'd say it's the opposite.
It's the free time you know inthe cfl.
Yeah, like, uh, we have ruleswhere you can only be at the
stadium like they can.
Only team can only keep you atthe stadium, for I think it's
four or four and a half hours.
Cva yeah, it's part of ourplayers agreement so you can't
be there for longer than fourhours.
So it's like, okay, I show up,I do my meetings uh 8 am as well

(33:47):
, we're on the field at 10 andyou're out.
You're out of there by twoo'clock, like, and obviously
I'll stick around and do somestuff on my own and hot tub,
cold tub, that kind of stuff,but other than that they can't
physically keep you there.
So it's like, okay, what do Ido for the rest of my time?
It's two o'clock and I gotnothing to do kind of thing.
So I feel like delegating.
That has been one of thebiggest things you know, just

(34:09):
trying to improve my investmentsoutside of football and also
just making sure my body isright and everything's healthy.
And it's a long season.
I'd say that's also anotherthing too, true yeah, it's.
Yeah, it is a long season comingfrom u sports college, you play
eight games in a regular seasonand then, if you're lucky,
you'll play another four inplayoffs and that's the national

(34:30):
championship.
That's the thing, yeah, otherthan that, uh, you're getting
lucky with eight or nine games aseason and then in the cfl it's
18 games.
So, yeah, but it's 18 games,but it's 20 weeks.
Yeah, it's 20 weeks.
We got three bi-weeks in there.
So that was one of the biggerthings.
My first year.
I was like holy, we're at week10 and we're not even halfway
through the season.
That's, that's the thing, thatkind of.

(34:50):
They say in the cfl.
The season doesn't start untilLabor Day, which is September,
so it's like the first two orthree months don't count.
What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (34:58):
So yeah, I didn't understand that Chance if you
have all losses.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Exactly, exactly, so that was the one thing A lot of
the players were like, okay, yougot to make sure that you keep
yourself ready, because thesefirst eight games do not matter
at all.
And so I'd say it was prettybig.
And so I'd say I was pretty big, just like, OK, I don't know
how to play, but not make sureI'm not getting injured was one
of those things.
But but then you did getinjured, yeah, and you missed a
whole year.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah, never, never, never dealtwith anything like that before

(35:29):
it was offseason injury.
I got through my first yearpretty unscathed a couple of
bangs and bruises here but hereand there.
But yeah, just offseasontraining was around this time
two years ago.
I just was on the field and notdoing anything.
I've never I don't usually, doyou know just made a plant and
something didn't feel right.
I kind of just felt like thatfeeling when your leg falls
asleep, just tingly and nummykind of thing, and I was just
like I've never felt like feltthat before, so something going

(35:52):
on and kind of a week went byand I was getting some treatment
.
Didn't feel right at all, butit was getting better for sure.
Like I started getting movementback in my leg and stuff like
that.
Versus I didn't really havevery much movement the first
couple of days and when I saw Iwas first I saw an x-ray guy and
he basically was like OK, we'regonna take some pictures of

(36:12):
your and then we'll give you acall back, maybe a schedule, mri
or something.
And he didn't even end upcalling me back.
It was the MRI office calling meand they're like hey, so I
heard your surgery is scheduledfor a couple days here.
We need to get you in for apicture.
And I was like surgery, likeI'm not even sure what you guys
are talking about, kind of thing, and just thought it was maybe,

(36:32):
uh, just a trick to get me infor imaging early, kind of thing
.
And then go to the mri andthey're like, yeah, like we
really want to show you thepictures after because it's
super cool and obviously yoursurgery's in two days.
And I was like, okay, they saidit two or three times now
something is starting to kind ofclick, yeah it's not a good
sign.
So and then I received a callliterally later that day from
the x-ray guy and he was likeyeah, man, like we knew, right

(36:55):
away off the x-ray I completelytore my hamstring off my bone,
so my hip bone, so it's called aproximal hamstring tear.
So yeah, it was fourcentimeters down my leg, so not
even attached at all.
And they kind of asked me likehow did you do this?
And I was like I just plantedright.
And he was like, well, we seethis in like someone deficit
squatting 800 pounds, like theclean, clean tear off your

(37:18):
hamstring is very uncommon andat that time I'd never heard of
anyone who had done that.
So it was kind of scary a littlebit, you know, just not being
able to compare yourself toanyone.
And they're they telling youlike yeah, you're gonna be out
for the whole year, kind ofthing.
And I was like, well, seasonhasn't even started yet, so and
I just started my offseasontraining and stuff.
So very surreal moment for sure.

(37:38):
Uh, never dealt with anythinglike that before.
But uh, just being able toovercome that and just work
super hard and kind of you know,I felt like I was robbed almost
of a great year.
Uh, tyson had a great year whenI won the great cup obviously.
So mvp, canadian mvp, know andhe just did really well.
So it was bittersweet, for sure, watching him, but I was just
very proud and glad that Veryproud man for sure.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
No, I mean, yeah, it's your brother.
Yeah, yeah, you still beat hisass.
Yeah, exactly, I'll get old thenext day.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, but that's pretty awesome.
Well, I was like would it notbe a dream for Calgary to beat
Montreal in the Grey Cup?

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yes, I've been dreaming of it, I've been
envisioning it.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Because he's got something over you now right.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
He definitely does.
You know, I had the beingdrafted first.
I could hold that over him, butnow he's definitely got me.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, exactly yeah.
So I mean I would love to seethat.
Honestly, that'd be amazing tosee you know Calgary, Montreal,
go for the great cup.
I'm excited, it'd be reallycool.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
It's one of those things that could happen too,
obviously with the East and Westand how the playoffs work out
and stuff like that.
We could definitely play eachother for we wanted to do it
last year.
Honestly, that was because itwas gonna be awesome.
Obviously, he unfortunately, uh, had an injury and we kind of
stunk the bed yet last year sonot a great year for us.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Sibling rivalry question for you okay, this,
this is, uh, this should be onour 10 questions, but we just I
just thought of it now.
Uh, what, okay, aside fromfootball?
Yeah, okay, what, what'ssomething you're better than
your brother at?

Speaker 3 (39:12):
oh, oh yeah so I'd say hockey yeah that was my
first love I'm not gonna lie,yeah, yeah, okay yeah, so we
both played ball hockey foreight years growing up, we
played on all the provincial repteams in bc and we were
supposed to start ice hockey,but it was just one of those
things where it was likefootball and hockey and
obviously you got to choose onethat you care about more and we

(39:34):
at the time couldn't.
So we were supposed to, but Iwas always the guy that was out
there playing roller hockey.
Like I put on my roller skates,just imitating like I was
skating, and they always wantedto play with shoes and I was
like, no, we want to play withroller skates, make it as
realistic as you can.
So I would be out there playingon roller skates while they're
all in shoes.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
So I was definitely at a disadvantage but, it
definitely helped my skating andthat kind of stuff so and now,
and I want to ask you the samequestion, just be, be humble for
a minute okay what your brothergot you on.
That's not football.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
I won't ask about football if I'm gonna admit it,
that something that he'd like tohear me say is he's faster than
me.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
So he does, he does have me on that in a straight
line long, long race.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
He's got me.
I got him off the start butlike he's, he's always been the
200 meter, like that's been his.
But that makes sense if youcome from a running back like
you're more explosive off theget-go and he can go longer yeah
, exactly over the top.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, that makes sense yeah, cool, good question,
though.
I like that.
There you go, but, um, so yeah,what's what's?
What's?
What do you see next for you?
Obviously you see achampionship, but, like, what
are your goals, you know, forthis upcoming year?
Outside of winning achampionship, what do you want
to?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
do.
I got lots of goals.
You know it's last year I wasable to finish third on my team
in receiving yards.
Yeah, you had an up year yeahdefinitely, definitely had an up
year, obviously coming from notplaying, so it's got to be up
from that.
But it's got to be up from that.
But even from my first year.
That's what I meant.
Yeah, yeah, even from my firstyear.
You know it's just a team.
I just feel like you know, Iwas able to capitalize on some
of the plays that they wereputting me in and obviously last

(41:02):
year they didn't want tooverload me.
That was one of the big thingswhere it was like, you know, I
felt 100, but you never exactlyexactly get hit again, all that
kind of thing.
You know, I've never missed anentire year of football, uh,
covet year obviously, but I wastraining, doing all that kind of
stuff.
So I was still in it.

(41:23):
Being robbed and having to siton your butt for four or five
months and just watch peopleplay, it was definitely
different for me.
But, um, yeah, just slowlyeasing myself, uh, back in you.
I think it was about week twoor three where I started to
really feel myself again andfeel like, okay, yeah, I can do
this.
So some big goals this year,obviously got the new contract

(41:44):
this year, so really looking togo and show the team that they
made a great investment in meand that I'm here to stay and
I'm here to help the team win.
That was one of the big thingsfor me.
Is.
I just really wanted to show myworth, kind of Obviously I was
a first round draft pick anddealt with injuries here and
there.
So I got a big chip on myshoulder and just super excited
to show the team like, hey, I'ma guy and obviously everyone

(42:07):
knows about Tyson, they've seenwhat Tyson's been doing.
I mean, when we played them hehad 10 grabs for 115, 20 yards
and he iced the game on a bigcatch and kind of standing on
the sideline, like looking at myteam, like hey, like you know I
could do that.
Just put me in theopportunities to make those
plays.
So I feel like this year, youknow, I've had some great
conversations with my coachesand again feeling super healthy.

(42:30):
Now they always say, coming offinjury, it's your second year,
is your year, that's your bigyear, where you just feel
exactly the same.
So I think it's gonna be a bigyear for me.
I think it's gonna obviouslytry to get to a thousand.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I think that's the that's the I was gonna say.
What do you want to get to athousand?

Speaker 3 (42:44):
years, for sure, that's.
That's the mark in cfl, youknow it is a big yeah especially
as a young guy, to go to thenfl, like that's kind of what
they say hey, go get 1,000 yardsin the CFL, go dominate the CFL
, and we'll be calling, and Ihave a couple teams that are
just kind of waiting for me todo that.
So some big goals for me, but Ithink I can do it you want
1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns.

(43:04):
Yeah, let's take it 1,000 yardsand 10 touchdowns, for sure
That'd be huge.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, I'm excited I.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
I think it's attainable.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
So last thing before we move into our 10 questions.
I kind of offered this to yourbrother, but if you guys ever
want to be the Kelsey brothersof the North, we'll make that
podcast happen.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
That's awesome.
No, yeah, we'll make thathappen.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
I think we should, I think it's, but like one of you
has got to find, like theCanadian Taylor Swift, right,
that's how I see it.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Who is that?
Avril Lavigne, I was going tosay, is it Avril Lavigne or like
Shania Twain?

Speaker 1 (43:36):
It's Shania Twain.
She's still gone.
She's great looking.
Yeah, she is.
I don't know who that would beright now.
That's the thing I don't know.
Well, I'll have to get back onthat one.
That's a good deep thoughtquestion yeah, exactly Exactly.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Well, the one that I would say that I can say off the
top of my tongue.
Obviously she's an Alberta girl, so it kind of helps.
I think Tate McRae, that's whather name is.
I don't know if you guys haveever heard of her.
I know the name but I don'tknow her music, pictures and
stuff they've posted with herand the stampeters, jerseys and
stuff like that.
But yeah, she's up and coming,so I think what's up, there we

(44:17):
go.
Yeah, I got a couple a coupleguys on my team who took a
couple shots at her too noresponse no response is back yet
, so there you go all right, solet's go into the 10 questions.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
So, matt man, I really think we should get the
camera for this.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
So how does this 10 questions work?
It's like it's, it's reallydark.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
No, we ask you 10 questions and you can either
choose the answer or you canchoose to take a drink.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Okay, yeah, good thing I got some drink.
There's no, there's noquestions here that they're all.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
they're all pretty easy questions, I think.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Perfect.
Yeah, fairly tame.
Yeah, yeah, fairly tame.
For the most part Fairly tame.
Yeah, I don't know who did.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
There's been a couple people who have asked us like,
hey, why don't you guys get onTikTok, you and Tyson you?

Speaker 1 (45:01):
guys totally should get on there and bust balls.
I know it's so fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
It's something that we've got.
The CFL needs it.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
They should be paying you guys to get on there and
start some CFL TikTok influencertype stuff that get people in
the door watching Canadafootball.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
I'd say that's the one big thing that the CFL kind
of is their marketing game.
You know they've expanded alittle bit.
I've got a couple of buddieswho have started some podcasts
and stuff like that and the CFLat first wasn't very lenient
about giving rights to any oftheir filming or any of their
trademarks or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Give it up.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
You need to get it out there.
They finally last year, uh,they I think they picked like
six guys and we're like okay,here's access to all of our
stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Give it to everybody the brand exactly you and no
show time is pretty big.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah, exactly show time, yeah that's my buddy,
malcolm lee, who runs that and,uh, he was one of the first guys
to just kind of jump on thescene.
But it's super cool and it'ssomething that they need to push
.
Even there's been some talksabout just like getting CFL guys
in Canadian commercials juststuff like that.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
It's super easy, Just sort of get them in the culture
of Canada right, I agree, yougot a great year to do it, I
agree.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
I've never seen so much Canadian mojo Push the
narrative for sure.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Thanks Trump, but he got people going.
He does, which is really great.
Oh, he united Canadians like agold medal game versus the USA.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
You know what, though , before we get into the 10
questions or whatever.
We'll keep this in, on thispart at least, but like hot,
take on that game that happenedover the weekend the NHL game or
not the NHL game?

Speaker 2 (46:29):
it is an NHL game.
It's the four season.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
it's organized by the NHL, yeah, but like man, I
didn't like seeing Canada booAmerica.
Oh me, neither you know what.
Yeah, I mean heart to heart.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
I mean you know I'm going to look for a different
take.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Okay, let me finish.
Yeah, you go ahead, but likeI'm like, I'd be for it a more
playful situation than I wouldright now.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Fair, enough, because Canadians are really hurting
right now and this stuff haspotential to get very serious,
because you've got a guy runningthe US right now that's wacky.
We don't know what he's goingto do.
All of this is made up from thebeginning.
It's like straight out of amovie.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
So we don't know what he's accusing us really of.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I mean fentanyl.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
none of it really came through you know, a lot of
these accusations are just wildand winded right.
Canada has a right to be pissedoff, for sure, but we also got
a right to be, I think like thesmarter, better, stronger
mentality type and just say lookwe're not going to play now.
Yeah, we're not playing into it.
These Americans here not goingto play?

(47:32):
Yeah, we're not playing into it.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Yeah well, these americans here playing hockey
are good americans and we're notgoing to worry about them.
We worry about the idiots thatthat dictate a nation.
True enough?
No, and I I my gut.
My gut feeling was pretty mucheverything.
I agree with you.
My gut feeling was kind of likelet's not do that, yeah but kind
of hearing some other peopleout and kind of hearing some
like some other takes and stufflike that, and the thought
process was like this is a manwho is verbally and essentially

(47:55):
trying to attack our sovereignty.
True, yes, if any other countrywas doing that, if all of a
sudden North Korea was doingthat, we'd be easily booing
their anthem.
True, why are we giving them apass?
We need their people to sitthere and go.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Canada's been nothing but nice to us for like
literally all of our existencethat's what I want to see it
from americans and I agree withyou on that, and it's like these
guys are booing us and booingour anthem.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
It's like maybe we did something wrong here.
Yeah, yeah, maybe we need tolike rethink, but they didn't
like.
I mean, the thing is just like,that's the thing.
That's the only way you canhold them accountable.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, well, I would love to see Americans stand up a
little and say like reallyCanada, Like you know, Seriously
and like just look at the factsfor two seconds.
Yeah Right, they're like thisguy is obviously space-coding
every single problem he's everhad.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
He's a narcissist.
He's blaming it on other people, right?
Like you know, it's so obvioushe's a.
And he said like oh, whoevermade this trade deal with Canada
is the worst person.
Like worst deal, worst deal.
And then it's like dude, youdid it.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, exactly, he made the deal.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
You literally made the deal like eight years ago or
whatever it was.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Like you're the idiot .
You just called yourself dumb,right?
So I mean it's anyway yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I mean it's just rise together and say, hey look,
we've got a lot of great thingsgoing on right here, right.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
I agree.
Well, it puts me in a picklebecause I'm a dual citizen.
Oh, are you?

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I am, but it's one of those things where.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I would hand over that American citizenship real
quick.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Yeah, don't say that you might get drafted right in
the NFL.
What's up, canada boy?

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I'll say the same thing to your brother, though.
We need receivers in NewEngland.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
That's a very good point.
We have a history of JoshMcDaniels' back.
We have a history of usingrunning backs and receivers and
stuff, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Anyway, let's move on to 10 questions.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
All right.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
How are we starting you?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
want to start here.
Like you know, wink, wink,nudge, nudge.
Yeah, anyway, let's move on to10 questions.
All right, so welcome to.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
How are we starting?
Do you want to start Do?

Speaker 2 (49:52):
you want me to start?
Sure, so here we are.
We have Matt Conrad, mike.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Tobin and Jalen.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Philpott, and here we are with.
We just recorded a podcastwe're going to.
So we got 10 questions.
They're mostly fun, but youknow whenever, throw a couple
things out there and we'll seewhat happens do I go first?

Speaker 1 (50:16):
so you can go first, all right, who's the better cfl
player, you or your brother?

Speaker 3 (50:21):
I gotta give that one tyson right now.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
He can have that one right now I'll let him.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
I'm gonna come back to it.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
There's little asterisks?

Speaker 2 (50:26):
yeah, but you're coming for him.
Yeah, he is.
You can have it for now.
Good answer, that's a greatanswer.
Um, okay, what's your favoriteroute to run?
What's your money?

Speaker 3 (50:37):
favorite route is probably gonna go.
I'm gonna go 10 yard, 12 yardin route, okay.
So it's one of those ones whereyou know I'm breaking in but I
kind of can give them a littlesomething, make them think I'm
running out, make them govertical.
Everyone loves the deep routes,yeah, of course, and I mean
everyone wants to scoretouchdowns.
But I'm one of those guys whereif I can efficiently run this
route, then I think there's noway you can cover me, so I'm

(50:59):
going to take an in route.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
All right, I like that.
You know what I always liked.
I'm not as athletic as you arehad five to seven in yeah that
was my money.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yes, I like being in the thick with the linebackers.
Yeah, find the holes and justhopefully don't get your head
taken off.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
That's the only thing I'm across in the middle there
that's true, okay, who is yourmount rushmore of football
players?

Speaker 3 (51:18):
mount rushmore, let's go.
Barry sanders, for sure, he isa legend.
I gotta put a pittsburghstealer in there, so.
So I'm going to go.
Troy Palamalu that's adefensive guy, you know.
He made all the right plays.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
I got to go another.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Pittsburgh Steelers fan too.
I mean another guy.
I got to go Lynn Swan as wellat wide receiver, great, he was
just physical and just awesome.
And LaDainian Tomlinson,another guy that I really looked
up to as a kid and just thoughthe was awesome interesting.
Yeah, interesting noquarterbacks, no, no
quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
That's my, that's my personal yeah, yeah, that's what
you want.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, that'sinteresting, all right.
So if you didn't play football,what would you do?

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I'm really interested and I think it might still
happen is firefighting.
I think it's okay.
That's I think it's super cool.
You know, it's one of thosethings where adrenaline rushing,
you know, obviously you get tosave lives, and it's just one of
the things where they're superwell respected around the
community too.
So I think it plays hand tohand with sports and football.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
So firefighting?
I think it's really cool.
Great answer, all right.
Should professional athletes beallowed to use steroids?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
No, I'm going to answer that one.
Why not?
It's cheating, it's one ofthose things where I think it's
just Well, it gets you going,yeah it does Is it cheating.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
If everyone's doing it, though, that's a good point.
I guess I always ask that.
Yeah, that's the argument.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I guess that is a fair argument but, there's going
to be a lot of people who areopposed to it.
So I feel like you're not goingto be able to find that balance
, but I don't think it helps youin football either, unless
you're playing.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
D-line or.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
O-line, where you just want to grab people.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Honestly, I would say in a contact sport it probably
doesn't help you because theinjuries increase heavily with
steroids.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
That's true.
It works easily for baseballand stuff because there's no
contact.
But football you get hit by a300 pound man.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
You're on roids, yeah like you, can you, those knees
aren't holding.
Like you want to talk.
Yeah, exactly, you want to talkabout like massive muscles on
bones that get ripped off prettytrue, oh yeah that's it anyway
okay, so yeah, so, um, uh, yourbrother was very much into video
games.
Yeah, are you?
Are you also a gamer and if so,what games?

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Yes, I'm also a gamer as well.
I'm big on Call of Duty rightnow the new Black Ops.
It's one of those ones where Iplayed it as a kid, so it's
super nostalgic to me, yeah.
But I love the sports games too.
I'm a big car Like.
I love the ones where you canmod cards Need for Speeds and
stuff like that.
You can just modify the carsand make them super cool.

(53:50):
That's one of the games I'malways playing too.
I like it.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
If you could draft animals to play on a football
team, what animals would youdraft as QB?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Wide receiver running back tight end and O-line.
You got five animals.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
We need five animals.
Yeah, you need five animals.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Quarterback.
I think I'm going to go withgiraffe.
You know he can see the field.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
He's got a long neck, so if he's throwing it with his
neck or something Not much ofan arm, but I can see him.
You want the Brock Osweiler ofquarterbacks?
Yeah, I do, he'll throw it withhis mouth or something like
that He'll slingshot it Widereceiver.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
I guess Giraffe would have been good for that one too
.
But Cheetah, he's fast, He'llgo over the top of you.
That's a gimme.
Running back, running back,running back.
Give me a Rhino.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Yeah, I was thinking that too.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
He's tough.
You don't want to mess with him.
Tight end, tight end.
Let's go.
It's a sticky one.
I'm trying to find somethingthat's balanced, you know?
Uh, give me a lion.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
He's fierce okay, all right feel it yeah an o-line.
O-line hippo yeah, there you go, hippo aggressive wide don't
want to mess with them all right, so next question.
This okay with them.

(55:16):
All right, so next questionthis.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Okay.
Finish this song lyric.
Okay, ain't nobody dope as me,I'm just so fresh and so clean.
Ding, ding, ding, there you go.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Oh yeah, there you go all right, uh, what's the
meaning to existence like humanlife?
What's the meaning, man, I'm adrink.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
I'm a drink for that one Existence.
I would drink for that one.
Too big of a question.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Sure, that's fine.
So last one this is the commonquestion that we're asking
everybody this year.
Okay, so what is one bit ofadvice that you were given that
you would like to share with usand our listeners?

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Okay, you were given that you would like to share
with us and our listeners.
Okay, I think I mean, obviouslyI've been given lots of advice
from lots of speakers and stuff,but something that just kind of
stuck with me was justsomething about just being just
humility.
I think it's just being a human, you know, knowing that
everyone is human.
You know, it's something thatI've learned, uh, given the
platform that I have right nowand being a professional player,

(56:12):
I do air quotations because tome, everyone is human,
everyone's normal.
So I think that's somethingsuper cool that I keep with me
is that even though people getput up on this pedestal or
people think they're celebritiesand kind of stuff, everyone's
human.
So I kind of like to treateveryone the same and kind of
stuff.
Everyone's human.
So I kind of like to treateveryone the same.
You know, if I meet a superstarout in wherever you know, I'm

(56:34):
just going to talk to them likea normal person, just because I
just think that everyone'slooking for that, especially a
guy coming from who you know.
People are always watching youand keeping a close eye on you
and stuff like that.
People like me are people whojust want to meet other people,
who are just super normal, justdown to earth and you know, uh,
just just human, exactly likethat.
So I think something is just bevery nice, obviously, but just

(56:58):
treat everyone like they'rehuman and just respectful, and I
think everyone wants that treatpeople like they're human.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yeah, yeah, good answer.
I like it.
It's probably refreshing forpeople who you know get a lot of
attention.
Yeah, yeah, and I think that'sthe biggest thing.
When people meet me, they'relike you're not who I thought
you were, and I like it.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
It's probably refreshing for people who get a
lot of attention and things likethat.
Yeah, and I think that's thebiggest thing, when people meet
me, they're like you're not whoI thought you were and I was
like it's because I'm human, I'mnormal.
Whenever I meet these littlekids, they're like oh, I get to
meet this superstar and I'm like, hey guys, I say it's full
circle for me, especially beingable to play in the Canadian

(57:30):
Football League as a fan.
As a little kid I just lookedup to it.
I always wanted to do it.
So now I just get to see thoselittle kids and look up and see
them.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Jalen.
Perfect answer, man.
Yeah, perfect answer.
Thank you, it was awesome, itwas really great.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Thank you for coming on the show.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Thank you, that's it.
Perfect, you nailed it Easy.
I love that, thank you.
I like to talk sometimes.

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