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March 11, 2025 80 mins

In our 100th episode of The Afternoon Pint,  we welcome back experienced psychic medium Laura Warren! Laura brings us up to speed on what she's been up to, including parenting, her new book and her very own podcast called 'Circle of the Sacred Flame,' with her partner Kimberly Arsenault. 

This episode takes a twist when Laura performs live readings for both hosts. Laura reveals some piercing insights about Mikes tendencies and Matt connects with departed loved ones. 

This episode has a lot to offer, including Laura's practical wisdom about navigating our increasingly polarized world, raising spiritually aware children, finding faith in a changing world, and understanding the purpose behind our existence. Even 'possibly?' some winning lotto numbers? 

Spiritual seeker and curious skeptics are welcome in this anniversary episode, that reminds us how we do have the power to choose our own adventures in life, we just have to fight the fear and go take it.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cheers, cheers, cheers.
Welcome to the Afternoon Pint.
I'm Mike Dobin.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Matt Conrad.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
And I'm Laura Warren Laura.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Warren, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Welcome back to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Thank, you Very popular guest.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, you were really popular early on when we
started this thing, so I mean wewanted you to be back as.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Sooner, yeah, at Christmas time in fact.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
There was an easter egg in our christmas special.
If you listen to it at the veryend uh, we, we wanted low, you
weren't.
Uh, you were supposed to be inour show but you didn't make it
because of the snowstorm right,so, as promised, I'm back did
you listen that terrible show?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I did hear some of it .
Yeah, the music the terriblesong.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Well, the other thing is a special announcement this
is our 100th episode.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, 100.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
So another cheers to that.
That's a great accomplishment.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Awesome and we're wicked company.
So, Laura Warren, to folks whodon't know who you are or may
not, hear that episode from ayear and a half ago.
I think our audience got alittle bit bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Just a little.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, who are you?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
So I'm a psychic medium and I was born in Halifax
here in Nova Scotia.
I've been doing readings nowfor about 18 years and I used to
do all local stuff and in about2019 I expanded everything and
now I do readings for people allover the world that's pretty,
yeah, pretty awesome amazing the, the amazing thing of the
internet, and zoom and right allthat's such a

Speaker 1 (01:34):
gift yeah so so psychic and medium, meaning she
speak to the dead and maybe shecould have potentially almost
spoke to you today.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Tell us what happened on your way here, buddy yeah,
on my way here, this was very,almost very different.
Uh, yeah, we uh I almost had anaccident.
I had someone uh pull over intomy lane and almost pinned me
against the wall and took off mymirror and if I wasn't, if I
didn't react the way I did, Iwould have lost a lot more than
a mirror.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
So he just came over into my lane, 18 wheeler, didn't
even know I was there,basically I have a saying that
doesn't make a lot of sense, butit does at the same time, and I
always say when big things arehappening, big things happen,
and you had a really big thinghappen today yeah, my heart is
still pumping a little bit fast.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Do you believe in that final destination movie?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
like close calls and now death's gonna like chase.
Yeah, is death gonna chase menow?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
because I don't feel like that you know I feel like
um accidents like that or like amajor event or trauma.
I just feel like it.
It's a mark, it's a turningpoint.
So a lot of times they pop upwhen something in your life has
to change all right.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, there you go better though.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Could also be the fact that I already did die, and
this is just me living out myfake reality or whatever, or you
just need to lay off on thecraft beer.
You're going too hard.
You know, baby, I don't thinkthat was it One of the two.
No, maybe it was a second.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
No, no, I'm going to go with the fact that this is
the parallel matrix universethat you know maybe.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I am still lying back there and I've just continued
on.
There's endless, endlessrealities, right, exactly, it
could be that so yeah, sowelcome back.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Why don't you update us a little bit on, like, what
has happened since and, yeah,what's going on?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Well, after I left here, I mean we did, my partner
and I we've talked about our ownpodcast.
Life kind of got in the waywith that, but that's still
coming.
So we're hoping to launch bythe end of March, which would be
really great.
But I've been writing a bookand also I have developed a
mentorship course that teachesmediumship.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
So what's writing a book?
So the book is it about yourcraft or is it about your life?
Is it about like what?
So the book is it about yourcraft or is it about your life?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Is it about?
Like what I like to think of it.
Like it's like atransformational spiritual book.
So it's about my journey andhow I got to this place, how I
learned, what I learned, thespiritual awakenings I've had.
So it's kind of like my lifeand some of the really cool
experiences I've had.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Okay.
So it is kind of, yeah, alittle bit of like about you, a
little bit about your craft andall that other stuff.
So that's cool, yeah, Awesome.
When do you expect that to comeout?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well, the plan is to.
I'm about halfway through myrough draft, and so the plan was
to have the full draft donethis year, and we've already
decided between Kim and I we'regoing to open our own publishing
label and publish it.
Oh, self-publish, yep,self-publish.
So we should hopefully be readyfor that by next spring.

(04:40):
Oh, cool it should be out.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
What do you hope people get out of this book?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
spring should be out.
What do you hope people get outof this book?
Really, what I want people tounderstand and see is that a lot
of things can happen in yourlife and you can decide.
You get to choose how you dealwith it.
You get to decide how youhandle it, how you behave, um,
and what you take from it, andthere's lots of things that had
happened to me in the beginningof my journey that somebody
might say that's really scary orthat's really negative, but

(05:10):
what it did for me was it showedme exactly where I wanted to go
what I wanted what I didn'twant.
And so, if you know, the firstspiritual awakening I had, I was
nine years old and I had a veryhigh fever and heard voices and
that kind of thing.
Afterwards Anybody would saythat that is really scary for a

(05:30):
little kid.
It was, but what I learned fromit was that I was really strong
and that.
I didn't have to do anything Ididn't want to do.
I didn't have to listen toanything that made me feel bad
and I grew.
I grew from that experience.
So this has been kind of like ajourney of amazing things,

(05:51):
overcoming challenges, but alsothis expansion of who I am and
what I can, what I hopefully canhelp other people with.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I don't remember if we asked you this the last time,
but where you said you had thatfever, and then you kind of
heard things like is that normalfor someone to have?
Like is it normal for someoneto just have like a natural,
like a reaction in terms ofknowing and hearing and
developing this gift aftersomething traumatic?
Or do you see it that somepeople just have it and they

(06:23):
just develop it, or like yeah, Ithink it's a little bit of both
.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Like in my case, I could say I was probably a
pretty intuitive kid but untilthat experience I was sick for
most of that school year.
Um, and one night just gotreally sick and then I got
better but then I was hearingvoices afterwards on a
consistent basis that I didn'tunderstand.
Um, and then throughout my lifethere's been other things that

(06:51):
kind of correlate with othermediums.
Like I've had two head injuries, um, I've had uh, it's not a
near death experience in thesense that I died, but I have
gone to the other side.
So those are kind of commonthemes to have to be a young
person and have a spirit of aloved one, talk to you after

(07:13):
they've passed.
These are all common themesthat a lot of mediums have
experienced.
This and when you talk to thisis a question that was asked
when I did the talk at thesymposium, the Halifax
Paranormal Symposium.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, we had Elliot on the show.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, that was a question that was asked.
Is this what happens in aperson's physical body or in
their energy when they have aserious accident?
Why do they change in this way?
A serious accident, why do theychange in this way?

(07:49):
And the only thing I can figureor how I answer it is I feel
like it breaks down theresistance, it breaks down the
walls of belief that hold youback from your potential so if
you can, overcome these terriblethings.
It's almost like your, yourenergy and your mind can open up
to everything that's possiblefor you it's kind of like having

(08:10):
too many beers.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
The inhibitions are kind of the confidence yeah it's
kind of like suddenly it'sspiritual to do anything.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
So for you now like I have to ask like you're raising
kids, or you've raised kids,you said you had one going to
college.
Now yeah um, like teaching thespirituality to your, your kids.
Yeah, how does that work?
How are they managing life?
Because you know, you just saidsomething when you're talking
that like click with me.
When you said you don't have tolisten to those nasty things

(08:39):
that you know other people sayabout you, and I mean, you know,
raising a teenager right now, Iimmediately think about that
yeah, kid, and feeling bad aboutwhat other people have to say
all the time.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Right, right so it's interesting because I think
there's an idea thatspirituality is like crystals
and beads and yoga and mantrasand and those things are
wonderful, but reallyspirituality is just knowing
exactly who you are and whatyou're connected to.
And so my kids, it's been avery simple, in some ways, a

(09:11):
simple journey to say you needto be whoever you are, you need
to find who you are and I willalways support you, and that you
are connected to a higher powerand that higher power can
support you, can help you, andthat you have control.
So you have control over yourthoughts, you have control over
your behavior, and you have nowI have a 14 year old that this

(09:33):
is an everyday conversation.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Are they rejecting that notion?
No, he's.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
He's actually very.
He listens, he trusts me, he'svery open.
It's just very um.
He listens, he trusts me, he'svery open.
It's just he's going throughall those fun stages where he he
is very immediately like he'llbe snappy or cranky or whatever,
so a teenager teenager, yeah,and so this is an everyday
conversation that you get tochoose you get to choose.

(10:02):
You choose your thoughts, youchoose your reality.
You choose where you get tochoose.
You get to choose.
You choose your thoughts, youchoose your reality.
You choose where you want to go.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
What's it like to be the kid of somebody who has the
abilities that you have?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
It's funny because my youngest he didn't understand
what I did.
I mean, in the beginning I wasdoing lots of different things I
was studying Reiki, I wasstudying foot reflexology and I
was doing readings and I wasmaking jewelry.
So I was doing all thesedifferent things and he didn't
know what I was doing.
So you know those things thatkids fill out the Mother's Day,
the kind of information pagewith the little pictures on it.

(10:38):
He did one at school and hedidn't even know.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I mean, he didn't know how old I was either, so I
guess I can't be too upset aboutthis, but he said I was 62 and
that I was a massage therapist.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
So as we, as they got older, I could explain to them.
When they were younger, I couldsupport them because I knew
what they were going through.
So my youngest well, both of mykids had connections with, with
spirit, like actually kind ofsome scary things and some
ghostly things, paranormalthings, and I could support them
and help them because they haveabilities like me.
They just don't want them.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
So, it's.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
I could support them, but I didn't scare them, I
didn't tell them I was.
Oh, don't worry about mommy,she's just going to do an
exorcism.
I'll be back in you know twohours.
Like I.
I didn't do that to them whenthey were little Mother's
conversations yeah.
So I waited until they wereolder and we had the
conversation that you know, ifyou don't have to believe what I
believe, but if you believethat that the spirit lives on,

(11:39):
that's what I do I do.
I talk to spirits to help theliving, so the living can get
past challenges and problemsthat they might have had or
things that they didn't get tosay to their loved one yeah, are
they, are they?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
like.
Are they receiving that kind ofthing or?

Speaker 3 (11:54):
yeah, like they, they have lived a very interesting
life.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I would say yeah so you, neither one of your kids
rejected.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I think they're both kind of supportive and yeah they
don't reject it, it's justalways been part of their life
and I didn't introduce things inlike a scary or immediate way.
It was sort of like.
The first conversations we hadwas sort of like what do you
think God is?
And my oldest, at five yearsold, said I think God is the

(12:22):
fire in your heart and I think.
God is the fire in your heartand I think God is everywhere.
That's cool so at five yearsold, that was the analogy.
That was you know, and I waslike, okay, we're on the right
track, because I grew up in thechurch, I grew up Bible stories
and you know fables and allthese things, and I didn't feel
like that was necessary withthem.
I just felt like we like that'smy background and that's okay,

(12:46):
but I left things open for themto decide and the kids are so
intuitive, they know anyway.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I mean, I actually had this conversation not that
long ago with with my mother anduh, cause she's still very
religious and um, I, uh kind ofhow I explained it to her is
like I don't, I don't, I'm openfor my son to be open to
whatever.
Let him decide it.
And the conversation kind ofwas like well, you know, if you

(13:16):
don't introduce it to him, howwill he ever know?
And stuff like that.
Well, I'll introduce it to himin a in a different way.
Right, yeah, I'll introduce himin a way that, like, I'll
educate him on like, like youknow, these are Christians,
these are Muslims, these areJewish people, these are
whatever.
And it's like these are thepeople.
And they're all at a bar.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
They all walk into a bar, but it's like it's one of
those things where it's likeyeah like they exist.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
This is what they believe in, this is what I think
, and you can make up your mind.
Whatever you think, right, it'slet them kind of.
I want to go about teachingfaith from, I guess, more of a.
Holistic, holistic, but alsolike in a it sounds weird, but
in a factual way, where it'slike these are the facts, these

(14:02):
are what they believe.
You figure out your faith.
You figure out what you believe.
I'm just going to give you theinformation yeah, well, we know
religion.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
It comes from man you know, and so that's the
difference between religious andbeing religious and being
spiritual yeah, being spiritualmeans that you're completely
comfortable with who you are andcompletely comfortable with
what you believe and your ownconnection.
So you're familiar with how youfeel about that energy that
surrounds us, that we can't seeor that unseen force.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
And so I know my kids , at least my oldest, has quite
very opposed to organizedreligion.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's there is a generational thing too what do
you think that is um just justas commonplace today?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
I think it's um, it's recent events, it's history,
it's the things that have cometo surf, come to the surface and
, um, my oldest journey has beenvery different.
So they are a beautiful soul,but they are gender fluid, so
they don't claim to have any umgender, gender marker, anything

(15:14):
like that, and so they know orhave felt that a lot of
organized religions wouldn'taccept them.
And they do have more countriesat this point, unfortunately,
yeah, yeah, yeah, it's goingbackwards yeah, in a lot of
places someplace it's going theother way and it's, it's sad,
because if anybody knew, ifanybody knew, val val is such a

(15:34):
beautiful person, just abeautiful person if you know
anybody, your perspectivechanges immediately.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, as soon as you realize they're human beings
yeah, and you sit down, talk toto somebody, like okay, wait a
minute, that's it.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
I think that's the biggest thing is, like you know,
when you're personallyconnected with somebody.
But I think in the end it's oneof those things where we have
the freedom crowd quote unquotethat spouts off about freedoms
and yet they seem to be thefolks that don't believe in
bodily autonomy, aka freedom,and it's uh ironic we're in a

(16:08):
very backwards time, very, verystrange, I was listening to
black sabbath today.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
War pigs driving gracie to school, that's.
That's kind of a cool guy I am,and she's listening to the song
and like getting into it, I'mlike, I'm like yeah, I'm like,
I'm like you hear these lyrics,you hear what it's all about,
and like the politics and allthat.
Anyway, scrazy, I'm like.
I'm like think about today.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
It's the exact same yeah this was 55 years ago no,
some things don't change in away.
Some things don't change, theyjust kind of it's that pendulum
right, kind of like back andforth, back and forth.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Well, that's the thing and I mean transgender
people have been around for amillennia, we just didn't have
the words we didn't have thewords we use now.
Yeah, language caught up.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, morally I don't understand the discomfort with.
I mean, I think what it is isyou have to learn how to be
comfortable with notunderstanding something.
It's the yeah basic, theuppermost basic building block
that a lot of people don't seemto have.
It's's like, I mean, thisshow's coming out in March, but
you know Kendrick Lamar at theSuper Bowl.
I mean a lot of people didn'tlike that performance.

(17:10):
Now I'm a Kendrick Lamar fan.
I'll tell you I love thatperformance.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm not a Kendrick Lamar fan and I love that
performance.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I was ear to ear smiling the entire show.
Andrea sitting beside me, sheloves it too, because every time
he comes up with a new thing,I'm showing her his song, I'm
explaining it.
I'm a total hip-hop nerd rightso our family loved that
performance right.
But, like you know, some peoplewere so upset before they even
wanted to pay attention with itor couldn't be at peace with it
because they didn't understandit yeah, and a lot, of, a lot of

(17:39):
what we're seeing is thiscontrast, so there's no gray
area anymore.
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
And there's a lot of people either.
It's not that you can't bewishy-washy anymore because you
wouldn't fit in anywhere.
You're either this side or thisside and there's nothing in the
middle.
And so it's interesting becauseyears ago this was a message
that came forward for where wewere going as a human race, what

(18:06):
was progressing, and it wasprobably about 12 years ago.
I got this sort of a messagethrough meditation that the
world was moving towards blackand white type of thinking and
nothing in the middle, and thatcreates a lot of conflict,
because then it ends up that youhave no common ground but the

(18:30):
idea that some people willelevate to an understanding and
some people can't.
They just can't.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
I think, if you kind of like dance in the gray, which
I feel like I often am, becauseI feel like I'm fairly in the
middle um for a lot of things,oftentimes I get called a
conservative or I get called aliberal yeah, we both do right
in, sometimes within the sameday, right, and it's kind of
like, oh right, so if you dancein the middle and you try to see

(18:59):
from both sides and you try tolike come be that common ground,
you're right yeah, it's, it'sdifferent.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
There's different ways.
The black thinks you're whiteand common ground.
You're right.
There's different ways ofthoughts too.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
The black thinks you're white and the white
thinks you're black.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Thinking and growing and getting knowledge and
gathering information.
A lot of it's ones and zeros or, like you say, blacks and
whites, certainties and yesesand nos to get to a conclusion,
right.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
So it is challenging to take in both sides.
So you have to say, okay, thisrequires a hundred percent
rational mindset.
You know, don't go on a rap andcursing to raid on your
instagram profile just yet, anduh you, you have to carry a
certain logic about you as ahuman right.
But then with that there's alsothat fear.

(19:40):
That's in that, like in all ofus right like we don't know
what's safe to say or what'ssafe to do anymore.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
It's getting really confusing right, which is kind
of crazy, because that's what Ithink I like about our show is
that we can sit down and talkwith different people from
different perspectives and wecan talk about things, sure, and
we can be corrected if we saysomething wrong or whatever it
may be.
Like you know, we havediscussions from people who have
different beliefs and all thatstuff, and we just listen to
them.
Right, we listen to them.

(20:07):
They tell their story.
It doesn't matter if we agreewith them or not, whatever right
, but it's about sitting downand talking to people, right?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
I always felt like what if we just introduced a
different space, so the spacethat because I don't see?
I don't necessarily see the twoof you in a gray area what?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I see is your above, so above, viewing from above,
like the mop, it's on thebalcony.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah right, like you can you can view it all, you can
criticize if you want to, youcan pump it up if you want to,
but you don't have to engage it,and that's that's what I've
been trying, because I have alot of clients that are very
upset right now and they feelscared you know scared in this
world, Families feel scared,Families are ripped apart and

(20:52):
that's that's where I am with it, as I usually say.
You know what?
We can act as observers orbystanders if we need to to
protect ourselves.
So we can stand back from thebattle.
You can observe it, you cancollect your data um.
You don't have to engage allthe time because it's too tiring
um, that's something I need tolearn.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I've been practicing it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
It's tough it is tiring, I mean to choose, to use
discernment, to choose when youknow you want to engage.
That's good.
We all have to stand up forwhat's right, but there are
times when you don't have to.
There are times when you it'sit's better to be the observer
and collect the information andnot emotionally engage.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, I mean it's tough to call that too, though,
because sometimes I thinkstanding by is a bit of a
weakness, because when there'sreally terrible transformations
happening to your own nation,right, and you're idly just
watching and you don't believeit yeah you can't believe it's
happening, but you didn't vote Iknow, you know or or whatever.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Right, you didn't actually take a stance against
it, like so many celebritieswith a voice, kind of just
stopped talking yeah so manypeople just gave up I had
someone say something to merecently and I don't know, I
don't, I, I reject it, but Imean I, I, I heard it, but I
reject the thing and they saidthat, uh, silence is basically a
form of agreeing likeacceptance.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, it's it is, but I don't agree with that because
like what you said, laura, isthat?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
no, I kind of agree with that, I mean no, but it's
picking and choosing right.
So discernment, it'sdiscernment, so that's the thing
it's like I don't think I'msilent all the time.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I say things, when I need to say things and pick and
trying to pick and choose, butsomething that I needed to learn
and this is what I said back tothis person is something that I
am still learning to do is thatwhen you argue with a fool, all
other people will see are twofools arguing, yeah for sure.
So sometimes you have to justknow I'm not going to change

(22:45):
this person's mind, right?
So you know what?
Just don't yeah, no, that.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I agree with.
Yeah, it's like how hard is itto walk away from a Facebook
fight?

Speaker 1 (22:54):
right.
Oh yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
That's why it's a Facebook fight right, you want
to be in and everybody wantstheir voice to be heard, but I
have learned that there arethings to invest my energy in.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
No, I don't draw myself into that stuff.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, never have social media kind of drawn
myself into arguments thatthere's things to pay attention
to and to invest your energy inthat matter right and I think
that's the point is to take this, take something into your heart
and ask yourself is this worthmy energy?
If you're fighting for yourcountry, it is it just is

(23:29):
there's.
There's not really any questionthere, yeah, but there are a lot
of things going on in thisworld that do not deserve our
energy no, and it just feeds thefire certain things, but even
the things that do deserve ourenergy.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Some people don't deserve our energy.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah well, you can't talk to somebody if they don't
have capacity to understand you.
So this was something I learnedthis many years ago that there
was no point in trying toexplain myself to somebody who
did not want to understand meright they don't.
If they don't want to, then youcan make them.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
And.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I think we had this talk the last time.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I was here about skeptics.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
And I said how skeptics are actually really
good If they're a fair skeptic,because they will open up.
A true skeptic is somebody whoopens themselves up to all
possibilities and they just wantto hear all the information and
then weigh it out and make adecision.
Wherever their decision fallsis up to them.
But they're willing to hear allthe information and then weigh
it out and make a decision.
Wherever their decision fallsis up to them.
But they're willing to hear allthe points and weigh them

(24:29):
equally.
Somebody who's closed will notdo that they don't want to
change.
They don't want to change whatthey think, they don't want to
change their behavior or they'reafraid yeah, ready for a segue,
perfect segue.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Skeptics.
We talked today about doing acouple different.
I'm going to how do I say it?
Get a reading.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, I'm going to get a reading here right now on
the show Are you ready?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
I am.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm scared, I'm nervous, I don't know why.
So, after I do this, matt, it'son you, so I'm going to do the
psychic part of it.
And, matt, it's on you, you'regoing to.
So I'm going to do the psychicpart of it, okay, and Matt,
you're going to do the mediumpart of it.
Oh great, okay, I love this.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I didn't know this is how you were going to do it.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's what I told you on the message.
I don't read your text.
You didn't read it, jeepers.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
No, I sent it to you on the text.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
You remember that part I was still texting.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Don't text and see.
Don't text and drive.
This is the thing I didn't readyour message because you sent
it and then I almost died and wewould have had to have done
this with a Ouija board.
That would have been wicked ifI got to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Thanks, I mean just cool once.
I mean I would be sad after youonly die once, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
All right, all right, all right, so, uh, yeah, so I
don't know how this works.
Like.
So, if someone's coming tovisit you, I mean, do they
usually have a reason to comeand visit you?

Speaker 3 (25:49):
yeah, like a lot of people do, but some people are
just curious some people justwant to have the experience but,
more.
More often it's there's aproblem.
I usually get people at the endof the line that have tried
everything else and they don'tknow where else to turn.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
You know I'm not at the end of the line that have
tried everything else and theydon't know where else to turn.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I'm not at the end of the line.
I don't think, but not yet he'sat the end of his rope.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, we'll see Heart's still ticking, but I
guess what I want to learn rightnow is I mean, Matt and I have
been extremely busy doing workor full-time jobs, families, and
we've got a lot on the go.
I know I personally take on alot and seem to take on more and
more and more and more.
I never say no because I wantto grow.
I want to grow this businessthat.
I'm working with and I want togrow everything.

(26:32):
I want to succeed wherever I'mat Right.
But it's exhausting, yeah Right, and some days I really kind of
want to just kind of crawl intoa hole.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
But I can't and hide.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Right crawl into a in a hole.
But I can't right now.
You got too much to do.
I want to do that you usuallyhave to have something to get
something done right.
So very short naps, right.
You know kind of deal justrecharge, yeah so I mean uh, I
mean no, uh, I mean my.
My thought on it all issometimes is it all worth it?

Speaker 3 (27:00):
all the work you're doing.
You mean yeah, yeah, okay.
So if that's your question,that's good.
That's good and I'm going toget into that.
Normally I have a littleroutine I do, but I knew this
was going to happen.
I actually showed up today.
They asked me what I wanted todrink.
I don't drink and read, so Igot a coffee and I'm all jazzed
and ready to go.

(27:26):
She took three lines of cocainebefore she said it.
We'll leave that out.
So what I want to say about youis that, yes, you do take on a
lot, but I would say that theissue is not how much you take
on, it's more how hard you areon yourself getting the things
done.
So you're a little bit of aperfectionist Sometimes.
It depends If it's a passionatething, I'm a little bit of a
perfectionist.
Sometimes it depends If it's apassionate thing.

(27:47):
I'm an uber perfectionist, wecan say there's a hyper focus in
some areas.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I think it's ADHD.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Sure Could be, but the feeling is that there is
I'll find a way to explain thisbut there is a personal
commitment that you make toyourself.
You take on the responsibilityto get a certain amount of
things done or to cover yourrelationship responsibility,

(28:16):
your you know parentingresponsibility, your work
responsibility.
You actually take on a lot, andI think that your friends would
agree with me that sometimesyou're hard on yourself about
how much you think you should do.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Nailed it.
Yeah, he hates everything we do.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I don't hate everything.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
we do Literally hates everything until he thinks
about it for a week, and then hecomes around.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Oh yeah, okay yeah.
So what it is is, I think,everything's terrible.
Yes, all all.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
So is that the truth?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Like I always said you hate everything.
No, no, no, that's not it.
I just think everything'sterrible.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
No, but what it is is it hasn't worked out yet.
So I want everything to comeout as good as it can every
project.
Want everything to come out asgood as it can, every project.
So like I'll song, notice it onthe shelf for two years like if
I wrote a song or if I wroteany kind of artistic creation.
I I hate it forever.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Right but when you, that's the perfectionism though
because, when you put so much ofyourself and your energy into
what you do, sometimes whathappens is you begin to resent
how much work you put intothings.
So I'm just trying to find away to explain this properly.

(29:32):
But if you have 10 things to doand you have put a lot of your
effort into the first ninethings and you had those 10
things you had to do in the day,when you go to bed at night you
can't stop thinking about that10th thing no, last night I
couldn't stop thinking about onething I had to do today.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Then I got done today , but yeah, but then you don't
sleep.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah, that's right and you're not getting recharged
because your mind is busy andit doesn't rest.
So don't take this as cliche,because it's going to come out
that way.
But you need quiet time.
Your mind needs time to shutoff completely.
It doesn't have to be a longtime every day, but you need 15

(30:20):
minutes in a dark room to letyour mind do nothing.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I hate that, so I can't even do that.
I I mean, the only way I canreally pacify my mind is if I
can play a video game down thebase for 20 minutes.
So it's like that is not, butit's not really quiet in my mind
.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
We'll see what that does, still doing something that
is distraction yeah and Iunderstand distraction, because
my mind's very busy too, so Ioften do the same thing, so I
can move my mind from where itis.
I'm totally distracted andfocused on this mundane thing
for a little while, and Iunderstand that too.
But this is different.
This is the hamster on thewheel doesn't stop.

(30:56):
So you are getting a littleresentful of everything you have
to do, and there's things thatyou have to do.
You can't stop it.
So, there's things that you,you have to do, you can't stop
it right.
So there's that, but I wanted toum bring forward this to you.
What would happen, what's worstcase scenario, what would

(31:16):
happen if you took time, if youstopped?

Speaker 1 (31:24):
oh, I think my phone rang a lot.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
You think your phone rang Maybe.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I just think it would probably nothing.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Would it bother you though?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Probably bother me more than anybody else.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Because my thinking on this is that doing mundane
things can help you haveinspiration 100%.
Yeah, it can bring things increativity and those things and
that works really well for you.
But actually resting the mindand not feeling like you have to
run and go do anything could bevery valuable and make you more

(31:59):
productive.
So I didn't realize I was doingthis myself, but I thought I
was always a procrastinator.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
And then I realized, because I thought I am too.
I feel like I'm always behindon everything.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
I think, I'm saying this for a reason because I
realized I'm not procrastinating.
I actually do plannedprocrastination.
So what happens with me is I'llthink about something and plan
it out all in my mind, becauseI'm so much like that type A
personality.
I don't actually want to bringit into existence until I'm sure
it's right.
So I do this thing where Iactually have it all worked out

(32:35):
in my mind.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
That's why it took you two years for this freaking
podcast.
Right, I had to think about it.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
So what happens is that I did this all through
university and thought I was aprocrastinator.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
So I'd not do the paper, not do the paper, not do
the paper.
One day before this 20 pagepaper is due, I sit down and
pound it out.
Why does that happen?
It happens because you alreadydid all the work.
Yeah, you just haven't actuallyproduced it.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Right, I get that.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
And that's amazing when you get creatively writing
or something you're like I spentthat out in like a night, what
the hell.
And then you realize, no, youthought about that for two years
.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
So what Matt is picking up on when you say
everything's terrible, what itactually is is you are a true
creator, you are a true artist.
True artists are very hard onthemselves.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
I mean I feel bad because sometimes I'm even hard
on Matt.
I don't like that Like.
I mean I feel bad becausesometimes I'm even hard on Matt.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I don't like that, like I mean it's just.
I'm like he's just kind of shiton everything.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I don't think he does .
I don't think he does.
That's why I love working withMatt, because he's so frigging
chill when I'm like not good,right, yeah, because he knows
your process.
Yeah, so, just like any greatartist you have a process.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
You have a process process.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, and your process is.
I'm not good.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
I'm always like I didn't like this, I don't like
exactly, so change everythingyou're critical, you're critical
and everything's terrible untilit's not he already knows that
yeah, he knows how to just letthis whole thing blow over and
happen.
He's like let him have hislittle temper tantrum and then
everything will be fine thereyou go but on a on another note,
I just want to say that I thinkyou don't give yourself enough

(34:10):
credit.
I think that's what's reallyhappening, is there's not enough
reward within what you're doing.
You're not rewarding yourself.
It's like if something issuccessful, you're very humble
and grounded and that's reallynice.
But when things are successful,it's okay to take credit, it's
okay to say sit back andunderstand it and take it in and

(34:31):
say I did that no, I'll ask youthis other bit here now too,
because I mean, like, what theregret of this too is.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I mean, matt, I'm sure you see this as well all
the time we spend doing all thisextra stuff outside from our
regular jobs, yeah right, I mean, uh, my family still gets a lot
of time, like you know.
Thankfully, I get a lot offamily time, and I think they
see that they're satisfied withhow much they see me.
I think they don't want any more, but no more so, like my

(34:59):
parents and stuff outside of myhousehold is something I feel
tremendous guilt about, like allthe time Right, like you know,
I see my dad enough my mom andstuff like that.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
They're still alive, and they're still very healthy.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
see my dad, enough my mom and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
They're still alive and they're still very healthy,
right, you know?
And they're, they're greatpeople I love them right?

Speaker 3 (35:12):
have you talked to your parents, like, have you
ever asked them if they'remissing you or if you're not
around enough?
Because I think you'd besurprised what they say oh no,
what about that?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I am around enough.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
No well, I feel like they would understand.
Oh, I think they do, yeah theydo.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
No, my parents are really good about it, but I
still feel guilty anyways.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
It doesn't matter, I'm always going to feel
terrible.
This is what I'm talking aboutright, this is how we play these
games with ourselves and you'redoing the very best you can do,
and your parents know that, sothey're not upset.
Sure, they would love to havetheir kids.
I'm sure every parent wantstheir kid around.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
This is a therapy.
This isn't the psychic, this istherapy.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
This is therapy, every good therapist is psychic,
okay, but I'll say to you thatif you were to go to a therapist
, they wouldn't tell you what'shappening.
They would ask you to tell them.
That's the difference so I cansee the energy around you of the
creator the artist, the personwho is trying so hard to be

(36:19):
other people's everything in asense, and that you're hard on
yourself to the point wheresometimes it tortures you, it
keeps you up, you know.
Sometimes it it's it torturesyou, you.
It keeps you up, you know, orit keeps you, keeps your mind in
a place that is not always sohealthy or energizing, um, but
also you care a lot about yourfriends.

(36:39):
You're very loyal, um, youwould do anything for anybody
you loved.
You're very careful, though youhave very good intuition about
crappy people.
So, 100 when you meet people,you pretty much know right away
if they're good, if they're agood person or not that's how I
feel.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, you're pretty much you're reading me like 100.
You pretty much can say like atea leaf yeah, actually my
grandmother used to read tealeaves.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
But yeah, like I feel like you meet people and you
just know and you can see things.
It's like in your I would saymore in your like artistic
endeavors it feels like you'reable to meet people and see
almost like where you're goingwith them.
It's like you can meet somebodyand say we're going to do a

(37:25):
project together, I just know it.
Or we're going to do like thesethree things over the next year
together, like it's just goingto happen, like you already know
, even though the person mightnot quite understand.
They might feel like I don'tknow, I just met this guy, you
know.
So I think if you trusted yourintuition I don't I think you

(37:45):
may be out of the insurance gamesooner than you think, because
I had to bleep that part of it.
Because you can follow yourpassion when you trust that you
have everything that you needwithin you to make it work on
every level financial, social,for family responsibility, all

(38:06):
that.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Okay, I got to ask a question back to you and I know
this is about me here and Iappreciate everything you said
and I think it's dead on, like,how do you go?
and and I'm asking this likeheart to heart, okay, not rudely
, without any disrespect, buthow do you go out there and put
yourself out there as a psychicmedium?
Because I mean, if I think ofthe vulnerability, like I can't

(38:29):
put myself out there as like, uh, yeah, like I I want to make a
rap video or I want to do ahip-hop thing or I want to do
something.
That's not supposed to be thebox that you see me and the fear
of failure.
Doing that is like it's justcrazy.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Oh my god right, I had serious imposter syndrome
yeah, I started serious.
I didn't know what I was doing.
I didn't know I was doinganything.
And here's the thing within you, you don't realize how talented
you are because it's you,you're used to you, you know you
, you spend a lot of time withyou, so you don't see what other

(39:07):
people see.
And I didn't realize thatsometimes, even before I was
reading people before I was likea reader, that I was doing this
, I didn't realize that I washitting on all these things with
people, um, things about theirlife that I shouldn't know.
And then, when I did get intoreading, at first I didn't tell

(39:28):
anybody I was teaching.
Um, I remember't tell anybody Iwas teaching.
I remember I was teaching.
I was teaching at RockingstoneHeights, just down the street,
and I was doing a radio show andit was like a blog talk radio
type show and one of my teacherfriends heard it and I remember
I was mortified.
I was just like, oh my God,they're gonna find out what I do
, Like I was hiding it.
And it's because I felt likeyou know, I had to separate
theified.
I was just like, oh my God,they're going to find out what I

(39:50):
do, like I was hiding it.
And it's because I felt, likeyou know, I had to separate the
two.
I'm a professional teacher, theadministration, the parents are
not going to understand.
You know all these things and Iprobably wasn't wrong.
But when the teaching ended forme and I realized that this was

(40:11):
going to become my full-timeprofession, I was told like that
, you know, maybe internal voice, maybe from spirit, but my
feeling was, if I didn't own whoI was, I was never going to get
to where I wanted to be.
So I had to own it and I canpromise you that once you own it
and you own everything you are,people feel your authenticity
and they know.
They know it's true, they knowit's you.

(40:32):
People actually do have apretty good bs meter.
You know, like most people, andthey can tell when somebody is
doing something that's fromtheir true essence or not but,
if you can't own it, then itjust holds you back longer.
I mean, it's okay, it's aprocess.
I can't.
I can't tell you that I didn'tjump right out there and say,
hey, I'm a psychic reader, youknow um, it took me a while, so

(40:56):
it's it's hard to own the mostimportant thing in your life
yeah, it really is cool.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
So, um well, jump to the end of this, I guess, uh
session now.
What do do you recommend?
The path forward is for someonelike me, or how can?
I don't know how I can that'sprobably not a fair question to
ask.
You can rephrase that howeveryou want.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I would say that the first thing is trying to correct
some of the ways that youperceive yourself because, um,
what's within is without, sonobody can trust you, nobody can

(41:39):
understand your gift or yourability if you're, if you don't
accept it or understand ityourself.
So it's like this process ofaccepting, surrendering, getting
to know yourself, and theuniverse has this funny way
It'll push you right to thecliff, right to the limit,
before the net appears Right.
So this feeling like you, mayyou may choose to wait a little

(42:03):
bit longer, but at some point,if your gift is ready to be
received by the world, you couldbe pushed into it without your,
without choice.
I'll say your path actually isquite interesting, um, because I
sometimes see almost like adiagram, like your soul path

(42:25):
okay and you could choose.
You could choose to stay on thepath you're on, like, stay in
something reliable and sensibleand all that.
But what's going to happen isyou're going to become probably
more tired, more disinterestedin life in general, maybe a
little bit crankier.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
That's not good for anybody.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
He's already a cranky old man, but that's what I mean
.
Doing things that you lovefeeds you, and so we always have
a choice.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
It certainly does.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
We always have a choice.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
We're 100 episodes of this show.
I couldn't be happier with thisshow.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
We're so proud of it.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
I mean.
That meant the whole world tome To make this work and to do
it with a friend.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
It means the world to me and you both have done an
amazing job, and that's what'shere, what's happening.
This is all from your, strictlyfrom your heart.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
This is something you really want to do.
Genuine enthusiasm it's ADD,adhd squared is what it is.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Genuine enthusiasm on both sides.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
There is this feeling like you don't have to be hard
on yourself.
I'll ask you this Do youbelieve in past lives?
Do you believe you've livedother lives?
No, so you just think you justappeared here with all this
infinite wisdom?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Just flats and space, dust and grossness and that's
it and death.
Yeah, I don't really think alot about stuff like that and I
probably am afraid to like, youknow, I'm saying like it's like
I don't, I don't know, I justdon't know if I want to go.
You know, I don't explore thoseroots of possibilities, okay,
very often which is okay.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Um, my, my feeling is that if you just came here from
stardust, yeah, and you werewalking around in this world, I
think you'd be pretty lost.
And I don't feel like you'relost.
No, I don't feel lost.
I feel like you're found in somany ways.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
I love my partner andrea, and, uh, everything's
great like in life.
I mean, the only thing that'smissing is, like you know, am I
on that career path or whatever.
Right like right.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
So you know, you know science, you know energy is
neither created nor destroyed,so you have always existed in
some form.
Whether you believe in pastlives or not, it's okay, Okay
cool, but think about how longenergy has existed in this
universe.
You had to have absorbed someknowledge, some wisdom.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
This water's been around.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Yeah right, Water as memory, right as memory right,
so so here's the thing yeah youare this soul, this being with
infinite possibility, and really, what's what?
The only thing that's holdingyou back is fear I'm sure I got
a lot of it and fear doesndoesn't really.
it's not really real.
Yeah, it's.

(45:12):
It's there to be, like thebumper pads in the in the
bowling alley, in a sense toprevent you from you know major
disasters and things, but at thesame time, it's not there to to
stop you from living your life.
It's not there to stop you fromliving your purpose.
And if your purpose is tocreate, then sometimes we just

(45:34):
have to jump and let the netappear.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I love it.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
I really love that.
That was really nice.
So, matt, do you want to talkto a dead relative?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Sure, I'll talk to a dead relative?

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Or would you rather just do the same thing I just
did, and just do it for you,because it's going to be
whatever entirely different.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
What?

Speaker 1 (45:53):
do you want to do?
This is this is our 100thepisode, buddy, it's 101.
Whatever we want celebration.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, no, I'm down with ever.
I don't know.
I'll leave it up to laura, okay.
So, yeah, you can do whateverI'm down for anything.
I think this stuff is allpretty interesting to me.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
I love it so this is interesting because you're open
to whatever.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
And when that happens , sometimes we have a bunch of
spirits show up.
Amazing.
So let's do this.
Do you have a grandfather likegrandfather energy?
So, um, he wouldn't have passedtoo long ago and there is.

(46:41):
I'm not sure if it's him oranother spirit that's coming in,
but there's, um, almost afeeling like a very organized
life, like I want to saymilitary, but that's not really
the right thing.
But military families oftenhave this feeling like they look

(47:02):
at life in a very like cut anddry kind of way.
So the energy is similar, but Ican't tell exactly if there's,
because it might be behind yourgrandfather Like there's
something military comingthrough, okay, but it again
might not be connected to.
So this is the grandfather onthe recently passed grandfather.

(47:27):
Is that on your mother's side?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
No, not on my mother's side, on your father's.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Yeah, it is Okay.
What's his first name?

Speaker 2 (47:37):
On dad's side.
Yeah, walter.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
That's odd.
It must be a pride in thefamily.
I keep seeing recognition orawards, and that's why it leads
me down that path.
But you don't have a militaryconnection, or do you?
Well, I?

Speaker 2 (47:55):
mean yeah, sort of.
I mean I was in the militaryfor three years okay um, but
also um, my grandfather.
So I guess it depends on atimeline, but, uh, my
grandfather, who passed away in2001, was fought in the war,
okay, and he actually never gotto see me join the military.

(48:16):
I joined the military a yearafter he passed away.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Ah, okay, so is this Walter, or is this the other?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
grandfather.
No, that's JJ.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Okay, so that's probably part of the confusion.
So we have both grandfathershere standing together, but I
couldn't pin down who wasconnected to military.
So let's talk to jj for asecond.
Um, very proud, very proud ofthe family line, very proud of
the legacy.
It's very important to him.
Um, he talks about a babycoming into the family.

(48:51):
We're not going to be superspecific because I don't know
who knows what and what's goingon if it's been announced, but
there's a baby coming.
He's excited.
He said that this is reallyfunny.
He said said you have become abetter man than him.

(49:13):
So he's watching you grow, he'swatching you grow and change
and he's, he said, in in afamily.
It's almost like people pick afigurehead and they look up to
that person.
And he said I don't feel like Iwant to be that person anymore
because I want to pass on thetorch.

(49:34):
So it's like he wants to passto you this family legacy of
continuing.
So, um, sometimes, because evenspirits sometimes think in the
way of sort of like an oldergeneration, how they would think
about carrying on a legacy andand there's a baby boy coming

(49:56):
and that kind of thing, so thatenergy is there, right, um, and
I can again like this might bekind of like this might be kind
of too new information, in asense, where it's coming.
I can't tell when it's going tohappen, but it's it's like very
soon, um, and he said um, hesaid not to worry, because you

(50:20):
have a lot.
You're very protective of yourfamily, very, very protective of
your like immediate circle.
And he said he wants you tounderstand that you have so much
protection from the spiritworld and that, yes, it's good
Like you want to protect yourfamily.
That's very noble.

(50:41):
But he said don't feel like youhave to do it alone, because
there's some things about you,in particular within yourself,
that you actually take theresponsibility of kind of
helping everybody, kind of beingthere for everybody.
And he said it's very honorableand he's very proud of you, but

(51:02):
he doesn't want you to burnyourself out either.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Oh, that's true.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Right, because you're everywhere all the time and
you're trying to make sure youkeep track of everybody and you
know do you need anything andyou know you're very protective
over your wife, which is good,yeah.
But he said that she is strong.
She is stronger than anybodyknows and the two of you are a
team more equal sometimes than Ithink anybody knows.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
And you.
I think your wife would agreewith me on that one.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
We, we have our strengths.
We each kind of rule the roostin different ways, that's true.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
There's a career path .
So your grandfather said youhave, like, as you talked about,
you have switched gears in someways in your life different
times.
And he said there is, there'sno, there's almost like, no
question, no judgment from him,from him, from the spirit world.

(52:02):
He said that you have followedwhat was best for you and it's
recognized.
It's like almost like,recognized, recorded, and it's
okay.
It's okay, it doesn't matter,you could change your mind a
hundred times and he's stillgoing to love you.
It's okay, it doesn't matter,you could change your mind a
hundred times and he's stillgoing to love you.

(52:24):
So there's not that idea thatyou have to stay in a track.
You know for him he's sayingthat when he was alive.
If he gave you that impressionat any time, he's sorry.
Because he doesn't want you tothink that you have to do
something and be unhappy doingit.
Now I would be.
There's somebody that wants tocome through that we both knew

(52:47):
and he's very fantastical andvery on the fringe of some
belief systems.
I would say, all right, and Ithink I know.
You know who this is, so hisname is Tom.
I knew him as Tom and he's here.
He actually showed up at ourlast podcast, but we didn't

(53:11):
really do the reading thing, soit just didn't happen and he's
been very patient.
But he is also saying pleasejust do your thing, do what
you're best at and love it,enjoy it, own it, because he
said, life's too short to dothings that you don't want to do
or be in places that you don'twant to be in.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Yeah, that's pretty legit.
Yeah, yeah, that would be himso he is um.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
He's like.
He's like a champion, like he'slike I'm the I've have become
the champion of my familybecause, he said, um, there are
people that are still sad andupset, of course, um, and that's
normal.
But he said my duty now hasbecome protecting my family and
that I have taken on thatsuperhero.

(54:06):
He wants to be that superhero,superhero role and be there for
everyone.
And he said why would you thinkI wouldn't be there for you?
Yeah, yeah, he's literallyeverywhere all the time.
And he said I know that'screepy, but I am yeah, that's
that's fair yeah and he's alllove.

(54:27):
You know, um, people get stuckin places and bad things happen,
but he literally is 100 loveand he has worked really hard.
He stands almost like he standsbefore us right now and he has
all his hair back.
By the way, I said, um, it comesback there you go good for him,

(54:48):
loves his hair um he's got somekind of like almost like a suit
I would say on, but he'swearing really like fancy kind
of sneakers, like it's likethey're sneakers but converse or
sneakers or something.
But he's got like, uh, he's gotlike a nice, like an actual
suit on and he, you know, he'sposing of course so, um, he

(55:10):
needs you to know that.
Um, number one, he's okay, he'slike, he's like why he doesn't?
So he's been in the spiritworld long enough that they kind
of get to this place wherethey're like worried about us
and they're like why is anybodyworried about me?
Like I'm fine, um, but you knowit's understandable that we
would worry about them.

(55:30):
But he's like, oh my god, likeI am so fine, but because of how
things happen, he is bonded toyour entire family and is in
service yeah, yeah he said hewould spend a thousand lifetimes
trying to make up for what hedid.

(55:50):
So if you need something, youknow who to ask, because he
knows how to make things happen.
He said I'm kind of magicthat's true, mr crow.
So, um, there are.
Did you, did you lose agrandmother as well?
There's um, both, oh, both,okay, yeah, so there's a

(56:14):
grandmother comes through, um,sweet, um, but almost, like you
know, when we get older and Iknow a lot of people do kind of,
you know, have their shoulderskind of, but hers are more
pronounced, she has shorter hairand she, what's her first name?

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah, I mean, both of them would would be, but one
would be theresa, the otherwould be dorothy.
Okay, but yeah so who's?
Theresa would be on on mom'sside dorothy would be on dad's
side.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Who's the one that loves pink?

Speaker 2 (56:49):
I see pink, pink, pink I don't know uh question
for your mom, I guess yeah, momor dad, I, I don't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Okay, I'm leaning towards like a lot of your dad's
family is coming in today, soI'm leaning towards.
It's Dorothy, right on yourdad's side yeah.
So there is.
Sometimes they come in with anenergy that kind of tells me
things.
So that might be the pink, andpink tells me that she was a

(57:19):
person also all about family,wanting to make sure everyone's
okay.
Before her she had, I'd say,like small pleasures in her life
, but she didn't make a big dealout of anything.
She didn't want to spend a lotof money.
You know she wasn't that person.
She wasn't extravagant, but sheliked some small, nice things.

(57:42):
So she shows me a few items.
It looks like maybe a china set, like dishes, like the teacups,
the whole bit.
But there's a whole set andthis again might be something
you might have to confirm withyour parents, but but there's

(58:03):
like you know what that, if thatactually end up, might being on
on.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
That might be Teresa, because mom still has, like the
china set that we had at herokay so there's this china set.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
There's like this feeling like, oh, and, by the
way, they all hang out together.
It's like because they're allconnected, so they would all
hang out together and they'd allbe there because they have one
purpose.
Look after all the people thatare still here, right?
So I see this um set and I alsosee um a person that, a

(58:35):
grandparent, a grandmother, thatwhen you came over, it was all
about you, so she would sit downand completely focus on you.
What do you need?
Do you want a cup of tea?
Do you want to treat a cookie,a piece of cake?
What is going on with you?
yeah and so whichevergrandmother that relates to the
most, that's who's here.
And she is here because shesaid she said that you.

(59:03):
It's so funny.
The message is kind of similar,but there's a little difference
.
And she said that you don'thave to carry the weight of the
world.
You don't have to.
You are strong enough to do itand you've proved it.
But it's okay to ask for helpand that's not something you're

(59:28):
very good at no, it's very true,that's very true but she loves
you, they, they all, they alllove you.
And I just feel like thesegrandmothers are friends.
I feel like I'm watching alittle, a little like hen party
and they're talking back andforth and like talking about all
different things recipes, youwant to play cards?

(59:49):
Okay, you know, it's all thisreally cool, like they're, they
get along and, um, they getalong.
And also, to tell you that youhave a very special child that
is very bright and you will.

(01:00:11):
It will help you to seek outsome extracurricular things,
some different kinds ofexperiences, all different types
of learning, because their mindis so busy that it will make it
easier for you if they have theright kind of stimulation.
And I know you're working onthat already in some ways, but

(01:00:34):
it's like ways, but it's like um, you know, a intelligent mind
can be a gift and a curse andthere's a lot of hyperness that
um is coming out and it's totake it and use it in, to use
that energy, like efficiently,kind of, or do you direct it?

(01:00:55):
And into everything they'reinterested in, even if it's
weird.
So so if they're interested inI don't know, like purple ponies
, you know, like just toencourage the interest, and the
interest is going to change overand over again, but they are
learning so much they're like asponge no, I I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
actually, I believe in going to your kids and not
having your kids go to you,that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah, so there is because they haven't started
school yet right, no.
So there is it's not anything toconcern yourself over.
Just when they start schoolthere's going to be some

(01:01:38):
adjustment, but you can navigatethat because they're smart
enough that you can explainthings to them and they're going
to get it.
Um, but there's, there is somekind of bumps starting school.
So your grandmothers are bothtelling me that your kid needs
like outside time.
Okay, like it's.
It's like if, if they don't getenough at school, they're going

(01:01:59):
to be like rangy, difficult,whatever.
But you're going to figure itall out and it's just, it's
gonna, it's gonna smooth itselfout.
But I'm supposed to tell youthat and also I keep that this
is later, so we can't confirmthis right now, but I keep that

(01:02:28):
this is later, so we can'tconfirm this right now, but I'll
, I'll just give it to youanyway.
Um, something about teeth, so,down the road, some kind of
dental stuff, um, and also, muchlater, there's something to do
with glasses, which is odd,cause I don't, I don't know.
It almost looks like, um, theydon't need them all the time,
okay, but it's.
It's all very minor things, butjust things that kind of popped
up in my awareness that Ithought I should share.
so okay, glasses do you fear, doyou feel overloaded?

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
yet that's what happens sometimes no, no, I
don't know, I'm pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
I almost died today, so everything's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
After that, everything's okay.
Everything is okay, this isawesome.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
It's really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Well, cheers, this is a wicked way to do a 100th
episode it is, yeah, reallywicked.
I don't know where to go fromhere.
How do we top that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Just shell-shocked.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Should we go to our stupid questions?
We can go to our stupidquestions Are you ready for
stupid questions?

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Is there more stuff you want to talk about?
I'm ready for the questions.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Let's bring it on, cool.
Well, let's get that camera setup out there and I'll try to
get some of this stuff off thetable.
Last time we filmed the 10questions, like we're doing now,
somebody thought I had a packof smokes on the table.
It wasn't a pack of smokes Iquit a long time ago.
It was a pack of batteries.

(01:03:45):
So I'm just letting that personknow, I just thought about that
.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
No cigarettes, here we are 10 questions.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
All right, 10 questions with me, laura.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Warren Psychic.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Medium.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Laura.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Warren, psychic medium.
Laura Warren, psychic medium.
Okay, so I will just say that,if you are only seeing the video
portion of this show, we justhad a really crazy chat where
Matt and I both had psychicreadings and a medium reading
for you.
She talked to some of yourrelatives.
Yeah, that was crazy, yeah,yeah, so anyways, you guys both
was crazy.
Yeah, yeah, so, anyways.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
You guys both look like a little bit like yeah,
we're like way different than wenormally are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
We're usually like way more, just kind of relaxed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Just soaking it all in Our brains are all fried now,
so okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
So 10 questions is a silly part of our show.
Okay, yeah, all right, want meto do question one, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Okay, laura, if your life was a movie, what would you
call it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Oh my God, that's actually kind of a hard question
.
If my life was a movie, whatwould I call it?
How to make lemonade out oflemons?
I don't know, that's so hardthere you go that's a good
answer.
That's that's good we'll takeit, we'll take it, go ahead all
right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
So question number two how can people connect more
deeply with their intuition andspiritual wisdom?

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
I think the first thing to ask yourself which is
kind of a seems too simple andpeople don't understand how
powerful it is, but you justhave to ask yourself what do you
want?
Because there's a lot of peoplethat are doing a lot of things
in their life, whether they'rein a relationship they don't
want to be in, or they're in atown they don't want to be in,
or they're working a job theydon't want to work.

(01:05:31):
And why are you doing thosethings if you don't want to do
them?
So what do you want?
It's a harder question than youthink.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
No, that's true.
Question number three who wouldwin in a fight between Freddy
Krueger and Jason from Friday?

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
the 13th.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Oh, my God Big old death match.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Who do you think would win?
They did a movie on that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
There was a movie, there was a movie.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
I stopped watching horror movies about I don't know
, probably 15 years ago.
They just affected me weirdly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
But I would say I have to go with Freddy Krueger,
who would you go with?

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Probably Freddy, me too.
He seems more vicious to me.
He does for some reason.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Even though he's a skinny dude and Jason's like
this unstoppable strong force.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
He owns nightmares with the knife fingers.
It's just kind of got them onlock.
Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Question number four.
Question number four is what isa terrible question to ask a
psychic.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Oh wow.
What is a terrible question toask me.
You know, when people ask meabout how they're, I hate it
when people ask me when they'regoing to die.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
I hate that because I don't really know you know,
like like there's things that II'm given a lot of information
and sometimes I can see ifsomebody is going to make it
through a health crisis orthey're going to live to.
I can see like an old age orwhatever, but when people ask me
what their death date is, Idon't understand why that
information would help anybody.
So I guess, because I don'tfeel like it would help somebody

(01:07:01):
, I don't get that kind ofinformation.
I kind of work in the fieldwhere everything is for your
good like for the betterment ofyour life and I don't see how
that would help anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
I don't think I'd want to know that answer anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
No me neither.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Because you'd just be counting down the days.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Yeah, that'd be terrible.
Know that answer anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
No, you just be counting down the days, yeah
it's literally an actual thing,though a lot of people want to
see a psychic to know what theiryeah, what their death date is,
and I'm like I don't, I don'tdo that stuff yeah, yeah, okay,
question number five if you wokemike from the dead, he'd be
pissed off.
Have you ever had a spiritsuper angry that they were awake
?

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
oh, I like this you know it is funny.
It's not that've awakened them,but it's sometimes how it
happens.
So I did a group reading a fewyears back and this has happened
in different ways, differentpeople, but this lady at the
group reading, she wanted toknow if we could connect to her
niece's husband who had passed.

(01:07:56):
And he came through and he wasso angry and he must have had
something with her like in lifebecause he said I'm not going to
talk to her before I talk to myown wife, okay, and he stomped
out in.
If spirit can stomp out andslam the door, I'm sure he did
all right, that was it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
that's definitely you , mike.
All right.
Question number six.
So this is a big one as apsychic medium.
What insights could you shareabout the purpose of our
existence?
Wow, that's a big one.
That's big.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Honestly, we mimic the universe.
The universe is alwaysexpanding, and so our job here
is to expand our soul, expandour awareness, our knowledge.
But also we, our main purpose,is to live the life that keeps
us in the higher vibrations.

(01:08:53):
So every emotion, every feelinghas a frequency, has a specific
vibrational frequency, and weare meant to stay in the higher
frequencies, which is likegratitude, enlightenment, love,
peace.
We're meant to try to staythere as much as possible,
because that is the frequencythat broadcasts the loudest.

(01:09:14):
So it's often said that you canreach 750,000 people with a
positive thought, rather thanjust reaching, you know, 100,000
people with negative thought,because it's the way that
frequency kind of broadcasts theairwaves.
And that's exactly howsometimes we have a thought the

(01:09:36):
phone rings and you haven't seenthe phone yet, but you know
who's calling.
You know who's calling becausethey've already transmitted over
the frequency waves thatthey're calling you and your
mind has picked it up.
So we're receiving andtransmitting all the time.
And if the universe isconstantly expanding, how is

(01:09:57):
that happening?

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
It's happening partially through us, that our
energy continuously expands haveyou ever heard the song world
of vibrations by gift of gabfrom blackalicious?

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I haven't, but I should listen to that song out.
Okay, yeah, you'll.
You'll give it to me afterwe'll send it to you, yeah
percent cool, cool song.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
So it talks about the higher frequencies question
number seven I lost thing again.
Is it my turn to?

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
read.
It is your turn to read numberseven.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
What is the perfect sandwich to you?
If you just made a really goodsandwich, what would be on it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
My perfect sandwich is ham and cheese, a little bit
of tomato, a little bit oflettuce, mustard and mayo on
like a rye bread.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Simple, smart, like it.
Yeah, quick.
Yeah, you were quick on that Ilike sandwiches.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Actually, food is my thing, I love food.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
I love sandwiches.
Sandwiches are the greatest.
Okay, so question number eightI don't think I have a guiding
spirit.
If I don't think I have aguiding spirit, where could I
find one?

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Everybody has one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Where could I find one?
Everybody has one.
Oh, where can we find it?
Is it at Walmart?
Where is it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Not Walmart.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Yeah, everyone has at least one.
We'll say energy that has beenwith them from the time they're
born and we don't alwaysperceive them, we can't always
know they're there, but there'sthings you can do.
So I'm just trying to figureout how to explain it quickly.
But basically, just ask.
Just ask for them to show you,show some sign that they're with

(01:11:26):
you and they will speak to youin the best way they can.
So that might be a simple thing.
It might be a dime you find onthe sidewalk that is significant
to you.
It might be a dime you find onthe sidewalk that is significant
to you Because of my background.
I have always connected toMother Mary, so I always I talk
to her.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Talk to Mother Mary.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
eh, yeah, I pray to her if I need anything, and I
always just thought of her ashelp.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
You got a God in spirit, I don't know.
Maybe I don't know you everthink of who it could be.
No, I never actually thoughtabout like I don't know, because
I never really, I guess neverreally truly believed in like
guardian angels or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Who passed on that you miss the most, that you
maybe had a connection to ordidn't have a connection to at
all.
That's a hard question.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
But that's the thing.
Your family can take that role.

(01:12:40):
no-transcript so if I was aperson that loved animals and I
just wanted to have animalsaround me all the time, there's
a chance that some of my guidingspirits would be animals, um,
okay but I think if you're inthe mind frame like you don't
really believe in, like theguardian angel idea, then you

(01:13:03):
know your family members, thatyou know the ones that have been
in your life, that have passedor the ones that you felt
connected to even though theypassed before you were born, and
those are the energies aroundyou to help you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
That's the thing.
It's like I think for me forfamily and stuff like that, it's
like I think for me for familyand stuff like that.
It's like I have I, you know, Imiss my grandparents and uh,
you know, we talked about tomand stuff, so it's like, but for
me it's, it's one of thosethings with tom definitely, and
with with my, my mom's father.
I think he would have been onelike I just didn't feel like I
get enough time with, yeah, uh,and I didn't have a lot.

(01:13:36):
I only had two more extra yearswith mom's mom.
It's just, I think the reasonwhy I focus on my mother's
father is, I think, a lot alike.
Yeah, so I, you know, we're bothlike, we're both stubborn,
we're both really, you know,firm in our convictions and we
have a lot of like similar kindof belief systems and stuff like
that in a lot of ways.

(01:13:56):
Like you know, of similar kindof belief systems and stuff like
that in a lot of ways.
He kind of at one point walkedaway from the church.
I walked away from the church.
We're really strong in our kindof Irish heritage type of thing
and anti-monarchists and stuff.
So there's a lot of things thatyou know.
And he passed away when I was15.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
So here's the funny thing that you're saying all
this is that your guides what wecall spirit guides they have to
understand you, so they'reusually a lot like you because
they have to understand whereyou're coming from, and so they.
That makes a lot of sense, andit's interesting that your dad's
father came through because hehad a different perspective I

(01:14:31):
had a lot of time with him yeah,he was in his late 80s and I
really, and he was the lastsurviving grandparent, so I feel
like I really had the time withhim yeah

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
and he, you know, I mean, would have.
I would have liked any of mygrandparents to meet my son, but
you know, at least like my, mygrandfather got to meet my wife
and stuff like that and I had alot of time with him.
Yeah, so I feel real likesatisfied in that, whereas I
didn't have the samerelationship as long of a
relationship with my other threegrandparents yeah yeah, yeah,

(01:15:03):
cool, all right, okay, and I'mgonna write these down okay okay
, give us six numbers between 6and 49 to use on march 12th.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Any six numbers?
Just just spit them out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Oh, this is for the lottery.
Don't even think about it.
I can give you numbers, butlisten, I would probably not be
sitting here if I could pick thelottery numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
No, we agree, we're just going to gamble.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
We believe we're not going to spend our whole fortune
on it, just a few AP bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Let's do six numbers Okay, let's do six numbers, okay
, six numbers.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Okay, let's do 12, 19 .

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Oh, I like where this is going already 22.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Okay, 37.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
37.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
We're going up to 49, .
Right yeah, is that where we'regoing?
Okay, I need 42 and 47.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
42 and 47.
Do you gamble?

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Not really.
I mean, I buy the odd ticket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Insta-pick.
Do you let the AI machine?

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
do the work out for you.
I usually pick my numbers.
I usually pick them.
I like the energy of picking mynumbers.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Well, listen, if we hit the grand jackpot here,
we'll slide you a million.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
You'll be invited to the ap.
Uh, boat party.
Perfect, perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Yeah, there you go, love it I sent those to you just
so you have them there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Okay cool, I got them written down too.
Thanks, bud.
Yeah, all right, there, yourturn, buddy.
Last question that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Yeah, I gotta go back to the questions here, so yeah.
So last question is the themeof this year.
It's a question we're askingevery single person.
Uh, so what is one piece ofadvice that you were given in
lifetime, in a life, in yourlifetime, that you'd like to
share with us and our listeners?

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
so one piece of advice for this year, or are
they two?

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
no, no, no one piece that you got.
This is just the question we'reasking like a piece of advice,
given just a piece of advicethat you were given in your
lifetime that you want to passon oh, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
I have to think about that a little bit.
Um so much advice.
My whole, I feel like my wholelife is about advice in some way
.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
So I'm like which?

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
one, um, I think the one that I'm sticking with is
there's kind of two sides to it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Just show up and you get to choose all right I like
that just show up and you get tochoose yeah, I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
I like that.
Just show up and you get tochoose.
Yeah, I like it.
It's fresh, yeah, awesome, yeah, different from what we've had
before.
So that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
And I would say that this year is rocky, this year is
the roller coaster, so justbuckle up and enjoy the ride.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Yeah, globally.
It's going to be a rough one,or?
It could be a fun one.
We'll see what happens yeahwe'll see.
Yeah, laura, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
It was a pleasure meeting you again.
Oh, thank you, great to see youagain and helping us out.
Thank you, and thanks toStation 6.
Yes, they hosted us.
They always let us use the backroom here, which is always
really appreciated.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
And and.
It's gone now, but I had thePropeller Black Lager and it was
awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
That's the first time I ever had it.
I seen it and I always wantedto buy it.
I never bought it.
Yeah, no, it's good I've had itand.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I've got my classic Galaxy, which I love Sweet, so
yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Cheers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
More head coffee.
I had a savory dark brew, yeahlocal cream there you go, there
you go.
Awesome cheers.
Thank you very much.
Cheers all right.
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