May 21, 2025 • 60 mins
Got a feeling you’re not operating at 100%, even though you’re doing all the “right” things? You’re not alone, and the real issue might be your hormones.
In this episode, we dig into how hormones quietly control your energy, mood, sleep, and sex drive and how even small imbalances can leave you feeling off without knowing why. Most people chalk it up to stress or aging, but there’s more going on under the surface.
We break down the signs to watch for (like brain fog, poor sleep, and low libido) and share practical tips to get things back on track—like why lifting weights beats cardio, how meal timing affects your sleep, and what your resting heart rate can reveal about your hormone health.
We also clear up the hype around hormone therapy and when it might actually make sense.
If you’re ready to feel sharper, stronger, and more like yourself again, this episode is packed with the tools to help you get there.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
okay, so what are we talking about today?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hormones.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Ruz.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hormones Ruz.
What happened to you today?
You did not look good.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I was fine.
I felt like I got out of aworkout because I took a new
supplement.
Well, part of it's new to me.
So from Level Up the companyLevel Up I order a bunch of
their supplements.
They have a bunch of oralpeptides that you can take and
(00:49):
great mixtures of differentthings, whether it's GI repair,
neuro repair.
So I took this one.
It was tesafenicin.
Luckily I was like all right,although the tesafenicin seems
like a lower dose.
Maybe the other stuff in thereare going to crush me.
What is tesafenicin?
Speaker 5 (01:05):
seems like a lower dose, maybe the other stuff in
there are going to crush me.
What is testofenicin?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So testofenicin is like triple serotonin,
norepinephrine, dopaminereuptake inhibitor, so it was
originally formed.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
So it's kind of like an agonist for all three of
those.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, so it was originally formed as a dementia
drug, but they found out that itwas like people were losing
weight, so they had to stop thestudy.
So then it got put on the backburner because they weren't
going to use it for dementia.
Those patients forgot how muchweight they lost so the gym rats
used it for for weight loss.
(01:47):
So um an experiment in theworld I know give me more dude
with a lot of this with a lot ofthis stuff.
That's, that's the way it comesout.
It's the underground gym peoplejust trying it out and it
actually works.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
So yeah, it's like let's lower your blood pressures
.
Doc, I gotta tell you my bloodpressure is perfectly under
control, but I've had a hard-onfor like four months.
It's, it's true yeah it's likethey find a commercial sale for
a form of medication and theyjust push it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So testofenicine, serotonin, dopamine,
norepinephrine reuptakeInhibitor, so it just increases
those levels and you just thinkdifferently about food.
You don't eat as much.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
It curbs your appetite you don't eat as much,
it curbs your appetite.
Those are huge likeneuroreceptors or receptors in
your mind for for the way youlike not just act, but like
respond to things so so you're.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's good medication to lose weight, but it also
keeps you happy, so you'repretty happy in the morning, so
that, mixed with oxytocin, Ithink like like you could have a
fun day every day.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Do you think it's a mixture of all three things,
because a lot of people are onserotonin reuptake inhibitors
like Cymbalta?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
But they're still technically depressed.
But it's kind of masking someof the symptoms.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I wonder what would happen if I took it with
methylene blue, because withmethylene blue it also increases
your serotonin levels too, soyou're probably going to get a
higher push.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So yeah, yeah, and the I mean dopamines, obviously.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
So what happened in clinic today so it wasn't in
clinic, it was in surgery um sothe testofenicine is a pretty
low dose.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I've taken like probably 10 times the dosage
amount, so I was like all right.
The other stuff I don't reallyknow too much which one of
them's l-biba, it's l-b-a-i-b-a,it's like l oh, like, oh.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Is that the alibaba stock?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
no, it's alibaba stock ticker it's like l-beta
amino isobutyric acid, and thenthe other thing I remember the
last time I heard about that,yeah the other things that gbb.
Gbb is just a bioavailable formof carnitine that you can take
so yeah, for muscle, which isgood for carnitine which
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carnitine is good for musclebuilding.
Um, but is carnitine huh?
Speaker 5 (04:24):
what is carcinogen acid?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
yeah, yeah, yeah so so the lobiba which um kind of
(04:48):
induces like brown adipose.
Fat build up and it's build upor breakdown build up because
you break down the white adiposetissue.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
More hate sound dumb, brown or yellow.
It's brown or yellow, fat rightyeah, brown is when you're
young.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, that's baby fat .
Yeah, that's like that givesyou energy and muscle.
Yeah, so you're able to buildup brown like baby fat, yeah,
and so what it does is it'sactually something that your
body releases.
When you work out After a toughworkout, it's what your body
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releases.
So, like you know, you do yourHIIT workouts and whatever, so
you're releasing all this.
So this is that.
I don't know what they call it.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Alibaba stock yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, so, yeah, so, it's almost like an exercise in
a pill.
So luckily, I was like allright, let me just take one
instead of two.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
And I probably won't take.
You should have some refrainyeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I don't know like and I don't know if the caffeine in
addition to this like kind ofgot me, it probably didn't help
yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
But, how did you feel ?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So I was sweating bullets.
I never like my hat never likegets wet and like it was like
frigging, like all wet.
My scrubs were like drenched insweat and like like all wet my
my scrubs were like drenched insweat and like I was like like
in heat and then like I walkedoutside and I felt like super
cold.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
So yeah, and and like even I have a mask on and like
my like a one-day flu, it's justlike yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and
he had a cough in there and thestaff was like sitting there,
they're like, they're like, hey,it's you.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I felt great.
I felt great.
It was just like happeningBecause, like your body going
through all, that crap is likeoh my God, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I don't feel normal.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, I was on point because it also, like you know,
if you're fasting and stuff, itincreases like your free fatty
acids that help your brainfunction better, like when
you're in ketosis.
It also kicks that up.
So it's just overall function.
You're like super functioning.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
So were you in ketosis?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I was already in ketosis because I hadn't eaten
from the night before I.
I drink my cup of coffee Iusually drink my coffee two or
three hours after um I wake up,because I want my like cortisol
release and hormone releases tobe normal and because if you
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take that caffeine like rightaway, as soon as you wake up,
that shuts down your system.
So what I do is I just spanthat out.
So, my body just produces itsown caffeine, and most of the
caffeine I drink it's more.
I think it's for taste.
Now I don't even feel like it'sfor.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
You build a tolerance .
It's not like you even get anytype of feeling off of it.
Yeah, I still chug sugar-freeenergy drinks like an idiot, but
I'm like, yeah, yeah, but it Idon't I use it to more socialize
, like if I have clinic I'lldrink a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So like, um one thing , I'm more productive in clinic
and like I just pay attention,attention, much more to the
patients and everything.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I need it, but it's probably because of my
anticholinergics that I'm on.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, which you got to stop, what a statement the
way you said.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
It too, I need it, but it's because of all the
anticholinergics, the drugs.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
What was I saying.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
That's screwing up your hormones.
So there you go.
That's screwing up a lot ofthings.
Shrinking your balls, dude.
Gotta do something about thatit was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
He had like the sniffles and a cough.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He had to go to the bathroom well, I didn't really
have a cough, I accidentallylike did something happen.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, I was just so all the staff's like oh yeah,
he's got one of those allergiesand he's sick and he's in the OR
.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You don't really want to know what.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
And he comes back 30 minutes later.
He just busts in through thewall like the cooler there he's
like let's finish this case.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
No, you really don't want to know what I did, Because
it makes your whole system gofast, and I went and took a shit
.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
He also thought, like all of our patients with, like
the GLP drugs we titrate up andthis guy just decides to go high
dose right away.
Is that what you did?
But the thing is.
I was the guinea pig.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I originally took it myself, before any patient, oh,
of course.
So I knew all the side effectsand how to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
That is true.
To fix it, he went high dose.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
The first day he was like like ah, screw this, like
titration.
He like walked to the or islike I'm feeling kind of sick.
Well, I finished the case.
I finished the case, oh nobefore you finished the case,
you were like I'm feeling kindof sick well, you're about to
back and he goes and like justyaks his brains out and comes
back and does the case just fine.
(10:24):
He's like, yeah, I wasn'tfeeling too good.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Dude, I was done, you were putting dressings on.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
He crushed it.
You had to put dressings on.
Yeah, bruce, was you had to putdressings on.
Yeah, bruce was I mean hecruised through the surgery.
Yeah, he looked great, I know.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Oh, this case, I'm overdid the GLPs on his first
day.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
But even with the GLPs I finished my side of the
breast reduction.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Oh you were perfectly fine for the surgical side, but
it was just funny being likeokay, never seen ruse like that
before.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, the best was like Pam had me do a bunch of
stuff at home and like I bentover in front of the garage and
started puking.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Like I just didn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
After it was that same night, the GLP night.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yes, glp night.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I was like did I GLP night?
And like I like just bent overand I was like I'm not sure I
gotta.
I was like all right, and Ithought I was food.
It was food poisoning because Ihad like a tuna fish sandwich
that day yourself.
Yeah, I know exactly, but Ithought it was like the I was.
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I thought it was the tuna fishsandwich, but not for long.
I it was hospital, it washospital lounge tuna fish
sandwich.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah you know what now?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
that you say that that's a questionable been the
glp at all because I have gottenfood poisoning from like ranch
dressing or anything like thathospital food yeah yeah, so yeah
, it was up in the air.
But like how sick I was.
I was like this is not the tunafish sandwich and my mom's like
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what's wrong?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I'm like oh, it's a tuna fish sandwich, it came easy
easy, but I knew what it was,yeah, and then mom comes to me
and she's like is he okay?
Is he okay?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
that's why I lost 10 pounds within the first week of
being on GLP.
It was like on super.
It's like shit.
I'm going to lose a lot ofweight this way.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Okay, guys.
I'll be down under 100 poundsin a couple months, since I have
no clue.
What's the deal with hormones?
What a horrible segue.
That was terrible.
Any lures Do you?
What a horrible segue.
Yeah, that was that washorrible.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Do you want another?
Take on that yeah, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, what's something people always blame on hormones?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
but what matters?
What hormones you're talking?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
about.
What are hormones?
Let's start at the very basic.
What are hormones?
Hormones main messenger systemof your body.
It connects your brain withyour gut, with your kidneys, any
organ you have Like that's yourmessenger system.
Think of it as the postalservice, where it's like your
brain muscle, cardiac muscle,bones, compared to thyroid,
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telling you where yourmetabolism lies.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It kind of controls how your body runs right, or,
for Rodbeth's sake, estrogenthat created his female
reproductive parts yeah, yeah,exactly so, as we age, the
hormones go down, um, and one ofthe things is it doesn't go
down in everyone but, uh, andsome people don't live the best
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lives and their hormones don'tgo down, but not just
necessarily go down, but thebalance is different.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, so you might create some hormones at an
increased level.
Yeah, in comparison to otherhormones.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, and some of the ways you notice that you know
your hormones are out of balance, or you know you have poor
sleep, you're irritable, youcan't think straight or focus.
Um, you have trouble sleeping.
Uh, it's all sorts of huge.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yes some sometimes like like people drink to get
some sleep and stuff and theydon't realize like you need to
get like like over an hour hour15 minutes of deep sleep to get
sufficient growth hormonerelease.
You're getting 30 minutes to 45minutes like each night and
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that the drinking suppressesthat deep sleep even more yeah,
and also eating you.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You want to like be like you.
You want to have your last meallike four or five hours before
hitting the sack, because thatgives enough time for you to
like release your hormones andbe in a rested state.
You don't want that food inyour gut and the really it'll
delay the release of growthhormone or decrease the release
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of your hormones is that themain hormones that are like yeah
, no?
It's just your system'sresponse.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
So a lot of a big misunderstanding for a lot of
people is that growth hormone isjust like a release mechanism
and they don't realize there'slike a negative feedback loop
for almost every hormone.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
So your body's way to make sure you're not
overproducing or overdoingsomething with a certain hormone
is a negative feedback.
That's why you don't want to gocrazy gym style testosterone
injections.
Your body's going to have anegative feedback loop and it's
going to shut that off.
So you're technically,chemically, like castrating
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yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, and you'll notice decreased testicular size
with being on a high dose.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, but if you're at the high range and normal,
that's your ideal like place tobe, yeah, or the benefits
without the side effects?
Yeah, right, and it's not.
It's not just testosterone,it's, it's, yeah, most most
hormones in your body you wantto be cortisol, insulin.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You want to be balanced.
Thyroid hormone, estrogen,testosterone, progesterone you
want to be balanced and not, youknow, too high, too low.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Uh, you want to be balanced and not too high, too
low you want to be balanced andoptimized.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And balanced and optimized or normal levels
doesn't mean by going to SonoraQuest and it tells you you have
normal lab levels, you got tolook at what's optimal levels
for when you were in your 20s or30s, at your optimal level,
rather than looking at numbers.
You know, and a lot of hormonereplacement places are usually
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treating you with symptom basedrather than looking at your
numbers.
You know your, your lab numbersare going to give you a
starting point.
Yeah, but you want to use thatto titrate the patients up to a
level that they feel at theirbest or optimized and then keep
them at that level and you justuse their symptoms from then on.
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The lab values are just astarting point but then it gives
you some guidance.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What symptoms are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
so, just like I said, poor sleep, brain fog feeling
tired, despite getting sleep umit sounds like me depressed hair
loss, hair growth, weight gain
Speaker 5 (17:52):
dude's talking about my estrogen decreased libido.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
If you're not horny, you're not healthy.
So it's.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
That's a quick and easy way.
Yeah, like to think of it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, if you're not horny, you're not healthy.
Yeah, it's true.
It's true, you need a decentamount of testosterone and, uh,
most people are like the.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I don't even know the units they measure it, but
normal testosterone is 150 to1200 or 1150.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, I think it's 250 or 350 and it depends on
labs.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, it's why, like for somebody over 30 to be over
500 is probably not realistic.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You know so.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And some people go by free testosterone and not total
testosterone.
What you're saying is totaltestosterone.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about, is it?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
the digestive hormones that play more of a
role in the sleep.
Part of it.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
No, no, no, okay, no, you still growth hormone and
and even your testosterone proprogesterone Growth hormone
seems to be huge.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
With growth hormone you can second this.
But like growth hormone dropsoff as you age and drops off
hardcore.
It's really correlative withlike expected life expectancy
Okay, in secondary data, likenot life expectancy Okay In
secondary data, like notdirectly.
Maybe I haven't looked that up.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, you can't take.
The thing is, you don't want totake too much growth hormone.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
No, or growth hormone itself.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It matters if you want to build a forehead like
Barry Bonds you take all takinggrowth hormone or like growth
hormone, releasing peptides orkeeping your growth hormone
levels appropriate.
Which is you measure like IGFlevels.
If they're appropriate, youknow you could do healthy aging.
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But if you have elevated levelsof growth hormone for extended
periods of time, that's going todecrease your life expectancy
and that's been shown inmultiple studies.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
So you don't want to like, just yeah, you want things
to grow appropriately.
You don't want them becauseyour body's in a balance.
So you can optimize thatbalance or you can overdo it one
way or another, like when youwere taking growth hormone right
and you were getting symptomsof neuropathy yeah, right, which
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our last youtube we talkedabout this.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Like people like, oh, you don't get carpal tunnel.
I'm like, yeah, you do um liketaking.
I've taken pure growth hormonelike pharmaceutical grade.
I've taken stuff from Chinahe's taking stuff for horses.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Why do you get carpal tunnel?
Everything grows and you getedema.
You get peripheral edemaeverywhere so.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I got carpal tunnel.
I got trigger fingers from it.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Cervical spine issues , so I got carpal tunnel.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I got trigger fingers from it.
Cervical spine issues.
Well, I think the cervicalspine issues and stuff was poor
posture, sedentary lifestyle andoverweight.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I think that was more of an issue.
But yeah, it's like you havethese small canals and
everything's growing, so it'snot going to be as efficient in
movement.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, I got hip pain like breast pain.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
So, like this is a great segue into the next thing
is like we were talking aboutthose negative feedback loops.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Where?
If you take growth hormone,yeah, it triggers your body's
negative feedback loop becauseit doesn't see the growth
hormone releasing peptide to thegrowth hormone to the end
receptors.
It just sees like a huge amountof growth hormone.
So your negative feedback looptells your body to stop creating
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anything and everything downpath to creating more growth
hormone.
So you're getting less growthhormone releasing peptide yeah
right and less endogenous orfancy word for what your body
makes that as growth hormone and, and that's why you want to
cycle it, you want that iscycling.
You do the you do five days on,two days off and before we even
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get into that, yeah is like it'salso why it's preferential to
take a releasing peptide ratherthan the growth hormone itself
uh, not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
It matters what you want to do, what you're looking
for.
You know some people growthhormone works perfect for like
building muscles.
Uh, I, I think it's moreeffective than the growth
hormone releasing peptides.
Um, and I've used igf, which iswhat growth hormone actually
releases, and with igf you likestraight up see, like right away
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you get cut up and like buildmuscle and it's great, but
you're not supposed to be on itlong term.
I, I do it for like I do it for20, 30 days and come off and
I'll usually days on off, or doyou spend more time I?
Usually spend a lot of time off.
I'll do it like once.
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What do you think like if?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
someone's trying to get like maximum effect of this.
Like, let's say, if you'regoing out trying to hit 71 home
runs yeah, but doing an illegalmanner what would your cycle
look like?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
um, I don't, I don't know you could do every day on,
but I'd probably do like fivedays or six days on and one to
two days off and just have thewashout cycle and then be off of
it, for they say six, six weeks, and then back on it for six
weeks.
Six weeks on six weeks for me.
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I do it like twice a year forlike 20 days.
I don't like um, and I do itlike if I got a big trip planned
.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I try to get you know , especially a beach trip, not
going skiing or something stillshowing off at the beach most
people, especially young people,probably don't realize that
they're walking around right now, at about 55, maybe 60 of their
true state of normal.
There is a nutrient, an aminoacid, a substrate, a compound,
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an element missing from theirbody that, if they knew what it
was, would make the differencebetween them being an average
person and being a superhuman.
They have accepted something aseither a consequence of aging
or a consequence of stress, or aconsequence of their
environment, something likebrain fog or repeated poor sleep
, or weight gain or waterretention or not the healthiest
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response to exercise, or brainfog or poor short-term recall,
or any number of things thatthey've accepted as consequence
of life, of aging, of stress orwhat have you.
That's not a consequence of anyof those things.
It's a consequence of missingraw material.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
What do you think?
That think, that's your boy.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
No, he's right because, like all that stuff you
know could be attributed tohormone imbalances, like he said
, like, and some of that stuffleads to, you know, hormone
imbalances it is hard tounderstand because he's saying
like oh, maybe like one to twothings that you could like.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I took it as like one to two things like you can
ingest will make up for allthese things, where I think it's
like a bigger picture thingwell, you know, for some people
it may just be the one or twothings.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I I think overall you got to fix everything else and
then you go to the hormones.
You know, you got to fix thesleep, you got to fix the
lifestyle with exercise andbeing active, and then you got
to fix the nutrition.
You can't just like eat likecrap and expect the other two to
make up for it take 12 vitaminb12 tablets a day.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
That's what I was in.
No, that's what I took it as Iwas just like okay, you can't
just do one.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Almost everybody is like yeah all those are going to
elevate and like eating wholefoods and all those are going to
elevate your hormones and getthem more in balance.
But you know, if you'rechronically like doing the wrong
things, then it's going to betough even fixing those.
But, like, sometimes it's goingto be a mixture, right, you're
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going to fix, you're going tohave to fix the mixture right.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
It's lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And, like some people , can get away with just fixing
their lifestyle, the way theyeat, the way they sleep, the
decrease in stress levels, andthey don't need the hormone
treatment.
But some people, even with that, they can't get their hormones
right where you know they needthat boost to be able to, like,
live stress-free, be morefocused or on be able to build
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more muscle, just trying to dothe hormone replacement to make
up for all these stressors andeverything that's compounding in
their life.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Where, like you, got to take like a holistic approach
to address every issue, yeah,where like those can, it might
take care of some of thesymptoms.
But it's not going to be likethis, is it?
This is your magic pill where,like, you get this hormone
straight, yeah, your mind'sgoing to be set.
It's going to take care of yourmarital problems.
You're going to become a betterdad, like that that's what I'm
(27:26):
saying like there's probablysome adjustment overall yeah
rather than just blaming onething for everything that might
not be optimized, but a lot ofthe things.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Although I'm the, you know I use stuff and like I
think it's let to me beingbetter in other ways.
But, um, but like exercise ishuge, because that exercise two
things it gets your stress out,gets your meditation, there you
get better sleep, you buildmuscle which helps you get
(27:59):
better sleep.
It you build muscle which helpsyou get better sleep increases
your testosterone.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Yeah, like so five times a week.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, and resistance training, you got to do
resistance training.
You got to build that muscle toincrease one to two hours a
week, yeah, and the other thingis, if you, if you have a lot of
fat, you're going to haveincreased estrogen levels, which
is going to be it's going tomake it tougher to lose the fat
and you're going to be moreirritable, and you know.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Not just that, increased fat and, secondarily,
estrogen levels probably lead tomore cause of cancer and
increased incidence of cancer,depression, anxiety, yeah, so
there's some root causes thatyou can really take care.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
So I was actually I.
I always get stuff every dayfrom like metscape and stuff.
There are two interestingstudies.
One was, um, they studied withgenetic or um, what is it
biological aging withmultivitamins.
I was trying to research andsee what multivitamin these
people were taking, that theywere studying them and they did
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five biological, differentbiological markers.
One was the first generation,one was the second generation
and then they had this third one.
I think it's built bythemselves and it showed
flintstone people yeah, people.
It was a two-year, two-yearstudy.
People that took themultivitamins had a 20 percent
decreased mortality rate and ordecreased biological age than
(29:34):
the placebo how they measurebiological age I.
I was trying to find the paperthat they were coming out with I
.
I think this is a prelim likestatement before the paper
officially comes out.
So I was trying to.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I'm a little skeptical with that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
All that matters on how they were studying it on
patients that were 70 plus.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
So that's still good, yeah yeah, so but that
population is also more likelyto be deficient on a lot of
vitamins well, nowadays,nowadays, everyone's deficient
in something.
Because of no, that is true,but like the older you get like.
If you're over 70 years old,you just rely on like like we.
(30:19):
We learned in med school yeah,like tea crackers, like you're
just like wait what?
You guys just feed this topeople for like months on end,
like they're more prone to bedeficient in all these.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, uh, smaller, moni smaller molecule but that
that's crazy, with just amultivitamin to decrease
biological aging by more than 20?
So yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
So if you have some, if you have a relative over 70,
you clearly got to make surethey take their vitamins, take
their protein shakes, and thatin itself will add years to
their lives.
Might not have like scientific,like hard proof, but yeah, I'd
like if there's something littleyou can do to add two to five
(31:13):
years life expectancy tosomebody you love, like why
wouldn't you do that?
Yeah, and it's not.
You don't have to go fancy oranything like just make sure
they have their protein intake.
Eat your chicken.
If they need supplements withshakes, get your multivitamin,
and and there you go.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's a good starting point and then you can build on
that yeah, and they just got tobe active and have people that
support them around them.
That's like the Blue Zone stuffwe always talk about.
It's like when they feel likethere's someone in their
community and some people careabout them, they're going to
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live longer, yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
So stop by to deliver the multivitamins and just talk
for a little bit.
Hang out, go for a walktogether.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
That means a whole lot Like whether it means
anything to you or not.
Like health, wise, longterm,like that that adds years, yeah
To people's lives.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
How about taking care of grandkids?
Do you think that adds years,or?
It definitely does itdefinitely does I think there's
research with, like people whoown.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the research that people
who own dogs live longer.
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, andpeople that have kids at older
age live longer too.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Really, yeah, I think there's research out for that
too it's also the will ofshorter, though it's also the
will to live.
I think more people have thewill to live, yeah yeah, it's
will to live like I.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I personally think I like the dog ones because,
coming back to the hormones, itmakes perfect sense well, you
have to go take your dogs outfor a walk.
You have to go out and get somesunlight to begin the day.
Maybe go out for a walk againanother time during the day.
So the companionship helps Also.
(33:11):
Again, that sunlight that setsyou off way better from like
cortisol levels.
Again, getting that sunlightwithin the first hour.
Oxytocin exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Dogs have like eight to ten times the oxytocin of
human beings.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
That's why they oh really won't leave you alone I
did not know that.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Yeah, that's crazy, that's yeah, that's why they
hump you every second.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, yeah you could smack them, and they still love
you, yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
There is all the shit I got from sprouts today.
As someone who suffers fromanxiety and hormonal issues, you
want to start your day off inthe best mood ever.
I promise you Moringa tea.
Moringa has something in itcalled quercetin which
influences your serotonin levelsin the brain.
It's going to increaseserotonin and just make you feel
really good and happy.
Next I have Coco June organiccultured coconut yogurt.
(34:03):
This is not only good for yourhormone health because it's a
source of healthy fat and it's agreat source of probiotics, but
it also is really great foryour mental health because it
contains medium chaintriglycerides just basically
brain fuel an absurd amount ofchomps.
This is just to hit my proteingoal each day as a snack.
Protein is very important forhormone synthesis.
You literally need protein tomake hormones.
(34:25):
It also helps regulate yourblood sugar levels so no spikes
in blood sugar and it helps withestrogen balance.
There is one tea I can tellwomen to take for hormone health
.
It is raspberry leaf tea.
It supports the tone andstrength of uterine muscles.
This is very useful for peoplewho experience menstrual cramps
or anyone who is about to gothrough child labor.
It helps with balancing outyour hormones and it reduces
(34:46):
heavy menstrual flow.
It is the best tea you couldpossibly drink as a woman.
I swear by it the best almondmilk out there almond milk.
Almonds contain vitamin E, andvitamin E reduces oxidative
stress in the body.
I also don't like to drinkdairy milk often, every single
day, just because it makes mebloated, personally.
And almond milk this is thecleanest almond milk you will
(35:06):
ever find in the grocery store,so this is why I like to buy
this brand, in particular,cremini mushrooms.
Cremini mushrooms are a greatsource of B vitamins, which will
give you energy.
They help convert your foodinto cellular energy Also are a
great source of selenium, whichis the happy mineral.
This is also the same mineralfound in brazilian nuts.
Then I got micro broccoli.
I just like the vibe of addingthis in a bowl.
(35:28):
I like the way it looks, butthey are very nutrient dense.
They're full of antioxidantswhich can benefit both your
brain health and your hormonehealth.
Sweet potatoes are insane.
People don't realize this, butsweet potatoes are adaptogens.
They contain compounds calledanthocyanins which help your
body respond to stress better.
It's particularly useful forwomen who are struggling with
their cycle because ofstress-related issues.
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They also containphytoestrogens, which have a
mild estrogen effect.
This is also really great foranyone who just recently got off
the pill and they containvitamin B6, which is a precursor
to make serotonin.
They get senna tea.
Um, senna is a natural herbthat helps with constipation,
but this is not going to benefityour hormone health or your
mental health.
Well, it might.
If you're constipated, do takeit, because I take iron
(36:12):
supplements and sometimes I justneed some extra assistance.
And then, to get some greens in, I like to get the pre-made
salads from Taylor Farms.
I got the dill pickle and thesunflower crunch chopped salad
kit.
Lastly, to reduce inflammationin the body, purple sweet potato
.
This is a very stronganti-inflammatory agent.
It also is rich in fiber and ithelps regulate your blood sugar
(36:33):
levels, so you won't have anysudden deep cravings throughout
the day.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Okay, so most of the stuff she said I agree with.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
The chomps.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
They can't be good they're, they're, yeah, they're
really good, because of highprotein levels yeah, but they
have a crap ton of sodium, likeeach one of the chomps.
I had a couple today, but eachone has like over 30 percent of
your sodium uh daily value ofsodium.
So you, you have two of thosesticks.
That's not going to fill you upfor 60 of your day, but you
(37:09):
consumed 60 of your sodium intolike beef sticks or whatever you
call it that was.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
That was an easy 200 shopping list.
That was dude.
But you go to sprouts.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
If you go to sprouts, you, you got $200 shopping list
.
That was dude, but you go tosprouts.
If you go to sprouts, you, yougot a $200 shopping list either
way.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Um the it's just the broccoli, it's like seven bucks
and it might be two servings inthere.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
It's expensive, the broccoli sprouts and stuff it's
I.
I personally like it a lot Verynutritious, like broccoli
sprouts.
It's good too.
Yeah, they actually haveservings of broccoli sprouts
that aren't quite what sheshowed, but something different
that's cheaper, that's morenutrient dense than the more
(37:53):
grown sprouts that she showed.
Those are really good,especially if you want to make
like a greens mix or a greenjuice.
I, kind of like a maniac, eatit right out of a container.
What else did you?
The one thing is almond milk.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Why wouldn't you just take a supplement?
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Almond milk.
I am not sold on almond milk.
What?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
do you?
Speaker 5 (38:16):
mean I don't know there's something
environmentally and holisticallyagainst almond milk.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Do you like cashew milk?
No.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
So any of the nut milks, because a lot of those
farms that grow those nuts arelike depriving depriving like
the Colorado river from drainingdown.
I guess it's because we're inArizona, but like it's leading
(38:48):
to a lot of droughts even inlike Southern California,
because of how much waters likesiphoned off or specifically
like almond farms.
All right, interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So you get oat milk, which is not good Oat milk
fucking sucks.
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
It's not good for your sugar.
I don't like alternative milks.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, I've just started to go back to just doing
whole milk, but I don't drinkmuch milk anyway.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
I can't.
I still do it.
Yeah, and I love whole milk,but my skin flares up when I
drink whole dairy.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Well, that's where you've got to get the lorazetide
GI repair.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I did lorazetide.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
You've got to do the GI repair from Level Up, Level
Up.
They got BPC, lorazetide andKPV together.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
But most of that I agree with.
There's no reason not to do itbut you can take a supplement
like rather than doing that thatis true, but there I do believe
that some things you absorbbetter with natural foods than a
supplement with a food yeah,you got to take a shit ton of it
(40:00):
where you get it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Get it in a tiny pill .
Speaker 5 (40:03):
But you can't just eat pills, but you but you gotta
also.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
You know like you gotta get it from like a
well-sourced place, that youknow like we use thorn, you know
what's in there and you'regetting the appropriate balance
of um he did mention thorn, so,thorn, if you're looking to for
paid advertisement, we got yourback don't be cheap.
(40:28):
So I was saying the otherarticle that I looked at was,
you know they were talking aboutglp-1s and the weight loss from
being on GLP-1s and diabeticsthat is correlated with
decreased cancer risk, which youknow.
Even metformin, because I thinkhow it moderates your sugars
(40:54):
and you're not spiking and beingall over the place.
You're not in that inflammatorystate of creating cancer, so
you're going to have muchdecreased cancer risk.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
It kind of puts you in extremes.
Right, if you're a diabetic,your blood sugar goes extremely
high and extremely low, yeah.
Or compared to somebody thatstays in a tight range.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Same thing with your heart rate right.
Yeah, like that's like my keyright now in like working out
and getting motivated to workout is I'm like, just looking at
my resting heart rate, I'm likeI got to get that under 70
right now and I have to.
Just looking at my resting heartrate, I'm like I got to get
that under 70 right now and Ihave I want to get it under 60
within a month or two.
Not just that, it's likelooking at that heart rate
(41:39):
compared to walking heart rate,my walking heart rate's like 100
, 105, 110.
And I want to get that under100.
And it's just like if you'reresting heart rate, that's a
good number to go by, because ifthat's not under control, your
heart can go out of whack.
When you go on like do a littlebit of activity, uh like
(42:00):
because if you're resting heartrates 80, you take like a swift
walk or like just chase a balldown with like your kid or
something, your heart rate mightshoot up to like 120 140.
And you gotta like consideryour lifespan, not in years but
in how many times your heartbeats.
And if you consider that,you're like, okay, I want to get
my walking heart rate down, myresting heart rate down.
(42:23):
Like.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
This is all connected like, and, and make but if you
count it that way, then if youcount, if you just rest all the
time you're, you have no cause.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
Then cause, then your resting heart rate won't
decrease, right Cause you'reresting, your heart needs to be
conditioned to beat at a lowerpace.
So if you're going to be lyingaround, your resting heart
rate's going to gradual, like,let's say, I was like, uh, like
just a glob of mush lying around.
My resting heart rate's goingto gradually, like, let's say, I
was like, uh, like just a globof mush lying around.
My resting heart rate as I getolder, is just going to keep
(42:56):
going up, up, up where, like ifyou're working out, it makes it
more efficient, it's pumping theright amount of blood out yeah,
since I got the eight sleep Idon't know if it's the eight
sleep or it's I've also, like,started to use my tonal more um
yeah, my resting heart rate'sgone to 60 to 65, where it used
(43:17):
to be above 70 all the time no,that's definitely working and
also like when you don't, whenyou eat late at night, your
heart rate remains high untillike end of the, you know,
almost early morning um, anddoesn't really drop, which, like
you know, keep.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
You know fasting at the end of the night and also
the eight sleep and getting gooddeep sleep.
You know my hrv's gone upbecause I could never get it
above 20 until I got the eightsleep.
I like me.
Hrv's gone up and I've beenworking out too, so I'm like
which one is it?
Is it the?
Speaker 5 (43:54):
eight sleeper?
Yeah, it's, it's all of itcombined.
Yeah, it's decreasing stress.
Yeah, eating healthy, having agood routine like if you don't
have a good routine, like it'shard for your body to calm down
when it needs to Exercise isreally important.
Like people are like, oh, I gotto work out to keep my weight
low, it's like no, but it's waymore important to keep your
(44:17):
heart healthy.
And I forgot the last one.
What was I thinking?
Sex?
No, sex is activity and properhormone release.
Yeah, and yeah, like, justkeeping that down, stay away
from cigarettes, oh cigarettesand alcohol hydration yeah,
(44:39):
because if you're not properlyhydrated, you don't have the
amount of blood volume in yoursystem, so your heart's going to
work a little extra hard to getthat smaller amount of volume
throughout your body for thatamount of time.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, I saw like a real this weekend.
This guy's like making fun ofpeople showing their morning
routines and he's like I get up,I start doing work.
I'm like all right.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I get up do three lines of coke.
Yeah Boom, and I'm making myphone calls.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I'm like alright, dude, it's more important to do
the cold plunges, do yourworkout or do your stretches.
I've been better aboutstretching and working out one
to two hours of getting up earlyand getting that done, not like
a three, four hour.
I understand that's not.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
I'm still bad when I get up.
It's automatically into thescreen on my phone for like 10
to 20 minutes.
But I've been getting betterabout like even if I do that
screen time getting my stretches, whether it's like a beginner's
yoga or like the resistancebands, getting like between the
(45:54):
two, it's like, no matter whatit is, whether it's yoga,
stretching, resistance bands,bike I keep all of them to 20
minutes yeah I try to do two ofthose things each morning.
Yeah, so like mondays andfridays, my easy days where I'll
I'll do either yoga orstretching and like, just like a
(46:16):
beginner, ride on the peloton,like nothing crazy again.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Like maybe my heart rate up to like 130, 140 you
know ram's morning routine Justpraying that he's alive from
Saran, not killing him.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
I'm alive.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
That kid's going to be in a crib with a cover.
Well, last night I mean he justwakes up Last night he had a
nightmare and he was just likefix, fix, fix, I don't know.
Something needed to be fixed inhis nightmare.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
It takes after his grandpa so much he wakes up in a
nightmare, yelling fix, fix,fix I wonder where he gets that
right back to sleep.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
That was hilarious.
I was like oh thanks forruining my sleep but yep, okay,
let's go fix it, would you saythis.
So the study brought decreasedcancer risk.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Yeah, which.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
That makes sense because sugar levels come down.
Most studies will show youlower BMI.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean if you and likeall the cancer studies, lower
BMI is related to, it'scorrelated with Cancer risk is
going to go down if your bloodsugar is controlled, no matter
what.
Yeah, that and more importantlyI think it's more related, like
what Ruz is saying, lower BMIequals lower estrogen levels,
(47:38):
equals lower cancer risk, evenif, like you look at the studies
recently that come out thatdespite like, early detection,
early treatment of cancers, yeah, for, uh, mostly males between
ages, like it's something like20 to 50 despite that the amount
(48:00):
of deaths due to those cancershave not decreased, so that it's
an increased prevalence ofthese cancers happening despite
better treatment.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
But it's treatment which is led by big pharma.
They give you these drugs andeven estrogen blockers and stuff
that don't really help peoplesurvive longer.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
It's just yeah, they're poison.
It's just yeah, maybe it's it'sthey're they're they're poison.
Yeah, just directed poison yeahbut if, if that poison has the
right effect, well, before it.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Before I used to think like people were crazy
when they didn't want to takechemo and stuff.
But then you look into it andlike maybe they wanted because
people give me the numbers.
Give me the numbers and startreporting quality of life
measures.
Speaker 5 (48:55):
It's like how good people feel while they're alive.
So like, okay, if I'm going tolive five more years and feel
great while I live those fivemore years, versus living 10
years feeling like shit.
Like tell me, like there's gotto be numbers on those yeah and
that's not available.
Like that shit.
(49:16):
Like I, I would take livingwell for two years over, living
like crap where, like we've seenour patients let me ask this
question so you get whatsupposed cure versus someone
that has cancer?
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Do you think the person that's been cured
mentally is better, or theperson that's been cured?
It's probably every daythinking the cancer's coming
back, right where the guy's likeall right, I got cancer.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
I'm gonna die from this and I'm gonna live my best
life it varies personally,that's a big, like spectrum to
go over, like how people wouldrespond to stressors like that
yeah it's.
It's hard to say you have to gocase by case on that I don't
think you could generalize that.
Yeah, that's what I think,because we've had to go through
(50:19):
it personally.
In our family it's like, okay,this isn't curable but it's
treatable.
Wait, what, I didn't know thatwas a thing.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Dude, we saw both our grandma and grandpa get put
through shit that we're like youguys just got to let them go
and they weren't willing to letthem go.
The family, like us beingphysicians, kept on telling our
parents.
Speaker 5 (50:49):
What's realistic.
If there's a chance like yes,let's go ahead and fight.
If we're but like.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Rod Mayer's, the neurosurgeon, and my grandfather
had a huge aneurysm Right andlike that person, like more,
like you know you're justkeeping them alive, for for your
own good.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
And, like in Iran, the hospital systems aren't as
good as they are in the US.
So it's like you know it juststrains everyone when you're
doing that.
Speaker 5 (51:26):
That's a whole discussion.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
I think, that would be a whole nother episode with
yeah, End of life care.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Yeah, that's, and and just like the mentality behind,
that actually would be a reallygood episode to dive into,
because we're a physician, so wewe also think differently about
it.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
So realistic outlook, yeah, and like I was a general
surgery resident before this, soit's like but you know you've
also seen people in the icupretty aggressive about talking
about end of life, like this guyjust got here.
Speaker 5 (51:58):
Yeah, like you want to like kick back like let's not
.
Let's not try to like, scrapeorgans out of this body or just
yet, oh yeah, when the donornetwork like oh, we're going to
talk about it.
It's like dude's got a suckingchest wound.
Like can we take care of thatchest wound while the family
decides?
It's like I've had some bad,like most of it makes sense, but
(52:22):
some of it's just like you'rekind of pushing.
That's a whole separate episodewe got to of pushing wait.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
That's a whole separate episode.
We gotta, we gotta, we gottasave that one.
Do you recommend any?
Any?
Speaking of this episode, doyou guys recommend anything to
take like just foods to eat forhormones rather than supplements
?
Speaker 2 (52:44):
it's just dude you to keep whole nutritious foods you
know, to just balance.
Speaker 5 (52:50):
Yeah, whole and processed, like cut out
processed stuff there wasresearch put out, like last year
, that said, like directly, likecorrelating the dose of
processed red meat andAlzheimer's, like directly
correlating that.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Processed foods, your oils.
Speaker 5 (53:12):
Yeah, like directly correlating that.
And it was those, your oils.
Yeah, yeah, so like just wholefoods, stay away from processed
foods, keep the protein rich.
Uh, greens like you can't gowrong with greens.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Everybody cut out sugars, yeah, and a lot of
people, and even like even yourmeats and know where your meats
and your fish and stuff aresourced, because if you're going
to farm-raise salmon, you mightthink it tastes great, but
that's inflammatory.
You're going to get the omega-6sinstead of the omega-3s, like
(53:42):
good grass-fed beef, and thatfish has been eating other
fish's shit the whole time yeah,so organic grass-fed beef is
going to get you plenty of likeomega-3s that you know, that
crappy piece of uh salmon itlacks, and it's going to be more
inflammatory than eating a nicefresh proteins greens, get some
(54:05):
antioxidants.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Some people overdo it with the fruit but, yeah, keep
a little like well balanced,even though like what the
traditional well balance is like.
Yeah, you don't need to eat abanana every day.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
You don't need to eat an apple every day.
Keep it more vegetables thanfruits.
Fruits to a minimum.
You know I I eat oranges, justyou know, during flu season and
stuff just to pick up thevitamins.
Speaker 6 (54:32):
And then once a month , just butt, chug some coffee.
This is day one of takingtestosterone.
So about two months ago I wentto a medical lab center that
takes all of your blood and thenruns a full lab examination on
them.
For three or four years I'vebeen suffering a lot with some
crazy weird symptoms that Icould just never figure out.
What was going on, like extremefatigue, brain fog, low energy,
low motivation.
In general I was having reallybad migraines so I was hoping,
(54:54):
going to this lab they could seeif anything was wrong.
They tested like a millionthings.
It was kind of overwhelming.
They did my white blood cellcount, all the vitamins in my
body, thyroid, my hormones.
When my doctor and I startedtalking about my hormones, she
noticed that my testosteronelevels were like super, super,
super, super low.
Usually when you think oftestosterone you think of men
and male hormones, but womenactually need testosterone too.
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If you have very low levels itcan cause symptoms like fatigue,
brain fog, feeling weak, tired,and that's how I was feeling.
She prescribed me a low dose oftestosterone to try out and I
wanted to share my process withit because I feel like a lot of
women might not know about itand it might be a good option
for you.
So this is what it looks like.
It's in a little like deodoranttube, I guess you click it out
and then rub it on the inside ofyour arms.
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You can take it in a coupledifferent ways, but this is the
way that she prescribed me.
If you want to see how it goes,then follow along and comment
if you have any questions.
Speaker 5 (55:45):
I personally love that like a lot, and sometimes
it might not even show up in labtests, but it shows up
symptomatically, like whereyou're feeling this way and
especially with like the last 10, 15 years we've gone with
medicine where, like you go inwith like I'm feeling kind of
drowsy or whatever.
(56:07):
A lot of people turn in to whatAdderall.
Well, amphetamines like andthat's like what we've turned
into and with the problem withthat anxiolytics?
Yeah, yeah and it's kind oflike masking the symptom rather
than taking care of the symptom.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
Well you can treat it , but, like I, I would want to
know more about this beforebeing like all right, because no
I, I know, but she's a, she's ayoung girl, so you, you got to
figure out why, you know like,is it her diet?
Is she not sleeping right?
Is she got some heavy metalpoisoning, like what?
Where is she working?
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Is she high stress?
Because, because, you got tofix all this stuff.
And you got to figure out whyshe's testosterone deficient.
Speaker 5 (56:56):
No, but I think a lot of people are on Exactly you
got to come down with the rootcause, but still.
Speaker 4 (57:04):
But hormones can't treat testosterone.
Speaker 5 (57:09):
Replacing her testosterone is better than
getting our antidepressantsantidepressants, anxiolytics,
Adderall, Like and we knowpeople on those, like multiple
people, that are just increasingthe dose.
But I'm just saying someoneyoung like her.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
I would definitely like try to see everything
before just going totestosterone, because a lot of
people aren't going to do theheavy metal testing or try to
figure out why their life's, andtake a good questionnaire of
the life lifestyle and figureout what's causing the root
issue for her to be testosteronedeficient and what's
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testosterone deficient infemales.
It's kind of a guessing gamewith females and sometimes it is
just, you know, more withsymptomatic treatment than
anything else.
Because I had, you know, I hadpatients come in.
They, you know, they just go inthese clinics.
They're like, oh, they'refeeling great, just keep on
boosting it up.
And then they get clitoralhypertrophy and they're coming
with a mustache, yeah, yeah.
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And they're like, oh, they'refeeling great, just keep on
boosting it up.
And then they get clitoralhypertrophy and they're coming
with a mustache.
Yeah, kind of in mind.
Yeah, and they're like what?
What can I do about this?
Speaker 5 (58:16):
so hey, doc, a lot of it feels great I'm about to
throw you through this.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
A lot of it's reversible, with just getting
them balanced and to the rightdose yeah but but like, yeah,
young patients, though you gotta, they're going to try to get
pregnant and stuff, and you gotto worry about that, yeah, but
also sometimes they need to beon hormones, like for females,
they need to be on progesteroneto be able to get pregnant
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because they might be estrogendominant and not producing
enough progesterone.
Speaker 5 (58:50):
It's all about the balance.
Yeah, homeostasis so the onlinepeople are asking whether
testosterone is something thatcan make you taller yeah, I used
to be as tall as rom until Itook testosterone towering over
all my brothers.
I don't think so once yourgrowth plates fuse, unless
you're taking it while you'regrowing, which I would not
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recommend.
It doesn't scientifically makesense.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
That's the issue with growth hormone too.
That's where you find the hippain, the wrist pain, because
your bone's going to grow butthe plates are fused, so you're
not going to grow taller, it'sjust going to increase in
density.
Speaker 5 (59:32):
Yeah, with Barry Bond's forehead.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
How about the new surgery that people are doing to
make themselves taller?
Speaker 5 (59:41):
That's another episode.
Where and how is testosteroneproduced?
Speaker 2 (59:47):
Your testes.
Speaker 5 (59:48):
Balls yeah, you could have made it easy.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah, listening but you're like, well it's.
It's a conversion of.
You know comes from cholesterol, gets converted to dht and I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
And for females it's from estrogen that gets
converted to testosterone,correct?
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
or how did they?
Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
no, testosterone gets converted to estrogen like
where does the testosterone comefrom?
In females, though, they havetestosterone.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Females have testosterone, but where does it
come?
Ovaries, ovaries, yeah oh okay,yeah, just your, it's the
reproductive same thing.
Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Okay, clearly it's balls on the inside, okay
physiology.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
It's been a while, for I know it's been like step
one for me.
okay, so what are we talking about today?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hormones.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
No.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Ruz.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hormones Ruz.
What happened to you today?
You did not look good.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I was fine.
I felt like I got out of aworkout because I took a new
supplement.
Well, part of it's new to me.
So from Level Up the companyLevel Up I order a bunch of
their supplements.
They have a bunch of oralpeptides that you can take and
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great mixtures of differentthings, whether it's GI repair,
neuro repair.
So I took this one.
It was tesafenicin.
Luckily I was like all right,although the tesafenicin seems
like a lower dose.
Maybe the other stuff in thereare going to crush me.
What is tesafenicin?
Speaker 5 (01:05):
seems like a lower dose, maybe the other stuff in
there are going to crush me.
What is testofenicin?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So testofenicin is like triple serotonin,
norepinephrine, dopaminereuptake inhibitor, so it was
originally formed.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
So it's kind of like an agonist for all three of
those.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, so it was originally formed as a dementia
drug, but they found out that itwas like people were losing
weight, so they had to stop thestudy.
So then it got put on the backburner because they weren't
going to use it for dementia.
Those patients forgot how muchweight they lost so the gym rats
used it for for weight loss.
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So um an experiment in theworld I know give me more dude
with a lot of this with a lot ofthis stuff.
That's, that's the way it comesout.
It's the underground gym peoplejust trying it out and it
actually works.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
So yeah, it's like let's lower your blood pressures
.
Doc, I gotta tell you my bloodpressure is perfectly under
control, but I've had a hard-onfor like four months.
It's, it's true yeah it's likethey find a commercial sale for
a form of medication and theyjust push it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So testofenicine, serotonin, dopamine,
norepinephrine reuptakeInhibitor, so it just increases
those levels and you just thinkdifferently about food.
You don't eat as much.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
It curbs your appetite you don't eat as much,
it curbs your appetite.
Those are huge likeneuroreceptors or receptors in
your mind for for the way youlike not just act, but like
respond to things so so you're.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's good medication to lose weight, but it also
keeps you happy, so you'repretty happy in the morning, so
that, mixed with oxytocin, Ithink like like you could have a
fun day every day.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Do you think it's a mixture of all three things,
because a lot of people are onserotonin reuptake inhibitors
like Cymbalta?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
But they're still technically depressed.
But it's kind of masking someof the symptoms.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I wonder what would happen if I took it with
methylene blue, because withmethylene blue it also increases
your serotonin levels too, soyou're probably going to get a
higher push.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So yeah, yeah, and the I mean dopamines, obviously.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
So what happened in clinic today so it wasn't in
clinic, it was in surgery um sothe testofenicine is a pretty
low dose.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I've taken like probably 10 times the dosage
amount, so I was like all right.
The other stuff I don't reallyknow too much which one of
them's l-biba, it's l-b-a-i-b-a,it's like l oh, like, oh.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Is that the alibaba stock?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
no, it's alibaba stock ticker it's like l-beta
amino isobutyric acid, and thenthe other thing I remember the
last time I heard about that,yeah the other things that gbb.
Gbb is just a bioavailable formof carnitine that you can take
so yeah, for muscle, which isgood for carnitine which
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carnitine is good for musclebuilding.
Um, but is carnitine huh?
Speaker 5 (04:24):
what is carcinogen acid?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
yeah, yeah, yeah so so the lobiba which um kind of
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induces like brown adipose.
Fat build up and it's build upor breakdown build up because
you break down the white adiposetissue.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
More hate sound dumb, brown or yellow.
It's brown or yellow, fat rightyeah, brown is when you're
young.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, that's baby fat .
Yeah, that's like that givesyou energy and muscle.
Yeah, so you're able to buildup brown like baby fat, yeah,
and so what it does is it'sactually something that your
body releases.
When you work out After a toughworkout, it's what your body
(05:33):
releases.
So, like you know, you do yourHIIT workouts and whatever, so
you're releasing all this.
So this is that.
I don't know what they call it.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Alibaba stock yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, so, yeah, so, it's almost like an exercise in
a pill.
So luckily, I was like allright, let me just take one
instead of two.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
And I probably won't take.
You should have some refrainyeah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I don't know like and I don't know if the caffeine in
addition to this like kind ofgot me, it probably didn't help
yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
But, how did you feel ?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So I was sweating bullets.
I never like my hat never likegets wet and like it was like
frigging, like all wet.
My scrubs were like drenched insweat and like like all wet my
my scrubs were like drenched insweat and like I was like like
in heat and then like I walkedoutside and I felt like super
cold.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
So yeah, and and like even I have a mask on and like
my like a one-day flu, it's justlike yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and
he had a cough in there and thestaff was like sitting there,
they're like, they're like, hey,it's you.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I felt great.
I felt great.
It was just like happeningBecause, like your body going
through all, that crap is likeoh my God, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I don't feel normal.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
No, I was on point because it also, like you know,
if you're fasting and stuff, itincreases like your free fatty
acids that help your brainfunction better, like when
you're in ketosis.
It also kicks that up.
So it's just overall function.
You're like super functioning.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
So were you in ketosis?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I was already in ketosis because I hadn't eaten
from the night before I.
I drink my cup of coffee Iusually drink my coffee two or
three hours after um I wake up,because I want my like cortisol
release and hormone releases tobe normal and because if you
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take that caffeine like rightaway, as soon as you wake up,
that shuts down your system.
So what I do is I just spanthat out.
So, my body just produces itsown caffeine, and most of the
caffeine I drink it's more.
I think it's for taste.
Now I don't even feel like it'sfor.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
You build a tolerance .
It's not like you even get anytype of feeling off of it.
Yeah, I still chug sugar-freeenergy drinks like an idiot, but
I'm like, yeah, yeah, but it Idon't I use it to more socialize
, like if I have clinic I'lldrink a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So like, um one thing , I'm more productive in clinic
and like I just pay attention,attention, much more to the
patients and everything.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I need it, but it's probably because of my
anticholinergics that I'm on.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, which you got to stop, what a statement the
way you said.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
It too, I need it, but it's because of all the
anticholinergics, the drugs.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
What was I saying.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
That's screwing up your hormones.
So there you go.
That's screwing up a lot ofthings.
Shrinking your balls, dude.
Gotta do something about thatit was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
He had like the sniffles and a cough.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He had to go to the bathroom well, I didn't really
have a cough, I accidentallylike did something happen.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, I was just so all the staff's like oh yeah,
he's got one of those allergiesand he's sick and he's in the OR
.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You don't really want to know what.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
And he comes back 30 minutes later.
He just busts in through thewall like the cooler there he's
like let's finish this case.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
No, you really don't want to know what I did, Because
it makes your whole system gofast, and I went and took a shit
.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
He also thought, like all of our patients with, like
the GLP drugs we titrate up andthis guy just decides to go high
dose right away.
Is that what you did?
But the thing is.
I was the guinea pig.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I originally took it myself, before any patient, oh,
of course.
So I knew all the side effectsand how to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
That is true.
To fix it, he went high dose.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
The first day he was like like ah, screw this, like
titration.
He like walked to the or islike I'm feeling kind of sick.
Well, I finished the case.
I finished the case, oh nobefore you finished the case,
you were like I'm feeling kindof sick well, you're about to
back and he goes and like justyaks his brains out and comes
back and does the case just fine.
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He's like, yeah, I wasn'tfeeling too good.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Dude, I was done, you were putting dressings on.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
He crushed it.
You had to put dressings on.
Yeah, bruce, was you had to putdressings on.
Yeah, bruce was I mean hecruised through the surgery.
Yeah, he looked great, I know.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Oh, this case, I'm overdid the GLPs on his first
day.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
But even with the GLPs I finished my side of the
breast reduction.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Oh you were perfectly fine for the surgical side, but
it was just funny being likeokay, never seen ruse like that
before.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, the best was like Pam had me do a bunch of
stuff at home and like I bentover in front of the garage and
started puking.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Like I just didn't feel good.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
After it was that same night, the GLP night.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yes, glp night.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I was like did I GLP night?
And like I like just bent overand I was like I'm not sure I
gotta.
I was like all right, and Ithought I was food.
It was food poisoning because Ihad like a tuna fish sandwich
that day yourself.
Yeah, I know exactly, but Ithought it was like the I was.
(11:38):
I thought it was the tuna fishsandwich, but not for long.
I it was hospital, it washospital lounge tuna fish
sandwich.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah you know what now?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
that you say that that's a questionable been the
glp at all because I have gottenfood poisoning from like ranch
dressing or anything like thathospital food yeah yeah, so yeah
, it was up in the air.
But like how sick I was.
I was like this is not the tunafish sandwich and my mom's like
(12:12):
what's wrong?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I'm like oh, it's a tuna fish sandwich, it came easy
easy, but I knew what it was,yeah, and then mom comes to me
and she's like is he okay?
Is he okay?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
that's why I lost 10 pounds within the first week of
being on GLP.
It was like on super.
It's like shit.
I'm going to lose a lot ofweight this way.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Okay, guys.
I'll be down under 100 poundsin a couple months, since I have
no clue.
What's the deal with hormones?
What a horrible segue.
That was terrible.
Any lures Do you?
What a horrible segue.
Yeah, that was that washorrible.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Do you want another?
Take on that yeah, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
No, what's something people always blame on hormones?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
but what matters?
What hormones you're talking?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
about.
What are hormones?
Let's start at the very basic.
What are hormones?
Hormones main messenger systemof your body.
It connects your brain withyour gut, with your kidneys, any
organ you have Like that's yourmessenger system.
Think of it as the postalservice, where it's like your
brain muscle, cardiac muscle,bones, compared to thyroid,
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telling you where yourmetabolism lies.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It kind of controls how your body runs right, or,
for Rodbeth's sake, estrogenthat created his female
reproductive parts yeah, yeah,exactly so, as we age, the
hormones go down, um, and one ofthe things is it doesn't go
down in everyone but, uh, andsome people don't live the best
(13:56):
lives and their hormones don'tgo down, but not just
necessarily go down, but thebalance is different.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah, so you might create some hormones at an
increased level.
Yeah, in comparison to otherhormones.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, and some of the ways you notice that you know
your hormones are out of balance, or you know you have poor
sleep, you're irritable, youcan't think straight or focus.
Um, you have trouble sleeping.
Uh, it's all sorts of huge.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Yes some sometimes like like people drink to get
some sleep and stuff and theydon't realize like you need to
get like like over an hour hour15 minutes of deep sleep to get
sufficient growth hormonerelease.
You're getting 30 minutes to 45minutes like each night and
(14:49):
that the drinking suppressesthat deep sleep even more yeah,
and also eating you.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
You want to like be like you.
You want to have your last meallike four or five hours before
hitting the sack, because thatgives enough time for you to
like release your hormones andbe in a rested state.
You don't want that food inyour gut and the really it'll
delay the release of growthhormone or decrease the release
(15:17):
of your hormones is that themain hormones that are like yeah
, no?
It's just your system'sresponse.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
So a lot of a big misunderstanding for a lot of
people is that growth hormone isjust like a release mechanism
and they don't realize there'slike a negative feedback loop
for almost every hormone.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
So your body's way to make sure you're not
overproducing or overdoingsomething with a certain hormone
is a negative feedback.
That's why you don't want to gocrazy gym style testosterone
injections.
Your body's going to have anegative feedback loop and it's
going to shut that off.
So you're technically,chemically, like castrating
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yourself.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, and you'll notice decreased testicular size
with being on a high dose.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, but if you're at the high range and normal,
that's your ideal like place tobe, yeah, or the benefits
without the side effects?
Yeah, right, and it's not.
It's not just testosterone,it's, it's, yeah, most most
hormones in your body you wantto be cortisol, insulin.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You want to be balanced.
Thyroid hormone, estrogen,testosterone, progesterone you
want to be balanced and not, youknow, too high, too low.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Uh, you want to be balanced and not too high, too
low you want to be balanced andoptimized.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And balanced and optimized or normal levels
doesn't mean by going to SonoraQuest and it tells you you have
normal lab levels, you got tolook at what's optimal levels
for when you were in your 20s or30s, at your optimal level,
rather than looking at numbers.
You know, and a lot of hormonereplacement places are usually
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treating you with symptom basedrather than looking at your
numbers.
You know your, your lab numbersare going to give you a
starting point.
Yeah, but you want to use thatto titrate the patients up to a
level that they feel at theirbest or optimized and then keep
them at that level and you justuse their symptoms from then on.
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The lab values are just astarting point but then it gives
you some guidance.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What symptoms are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
so, just like I said, poor sleep, brain fog feeling
tired, despite getting sleep umit sounds like me depressed hair
loss, hair growth, weight gain
Speaker 5 (17:52):
dude's talking about my estrogen decreased libido.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
If you're not horny, you're not healthy.
So it's.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
That's a quick and easy way.
Yeah, like to think of it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, if you're not horny, you're not healthy.
Yeah, it's true.
It's true, you need a decentamount of testosterone and, uh,
most people are like the.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I don't even know the units they measure it, but
normal testosterone is 150 to1200 or 1150.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, I think it's 250 or 350 and it depends on
labs.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, it's why, like for somebody over 30 to be over
500 is probably not realistic.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
You know so.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And some people go by free testosterone and not total
testosterone.
What you're saying is totaltestosterone.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about, is it?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
the digestive hormones that play more of a
role in the sleep.
Part of it.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
No, no, no, okay, no, you still growth hormone and
and even your testosterone proprogesterone Growth hormone
seems to be huge.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
With growth hormone you can second this.
But like growth hormone dropsoff as you age and drops off
hardcore.
It's really correlative withlike expected life expectancy
Okay, in secondary data, likenot life expectancy Okay In
secondary data, like notdirectly.
Maybe I haven't looked that up.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, you can't take.
The thing is, you don't want totake too much growth hormone.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
No, or growth hormone itself.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It matters if you want to build a forehead like
Barry Bonds you take all takinggrowth hormone or like growth
hormone, releasing peptides orkeeping your growth hormone
levels appropriate.
Which is you measure like IGFlevels.
If they're appropriate, youknow you could do healthy aging.
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But if you have elevated levelsof growth hormone for extended
periods of time, that's going todecrease your life expectancy
and that's been shown inmultiple studies.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
So you don't want to like, just yeah, you want things
to grow appropriately.
You don't want them becauseyour body's in a balance.
So you can optimize thatbalance or you can overdo it one
way or another, like when youwere taking growth hormone right
and you were getting symptomsof neuropathy yeah, right, which
(20:31):
our last youtube we talkedabout this.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Like people like, oh, you don't get carpal tunnel.
I'm like, yeah, you do um liketaking.
I've taken pure growth hormonelike pharmaceutical grade.
I've taken stuff from Chinahe's taking stuff for horses.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Why do you get carpal tunnel?
Everything grows and you getedema.
You get peripheral edemaeverywhere so.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I got carpal tunnel.
I got trigger fingers from it.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Cervical spine issues , so I got carpal tunnel.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I got trigger fingers from it.
Cervical spine issues.
Well, I think the cervicalspine issues and stuff was poor
posture, sedentary lifestyle andoverweight.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I think that was more of an issue.
But yeah, it's like you havethese small canals and
everything's growing, so it'snot going to be as efficient in
movement.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, I got hip pain like breast pain.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
So, like this is a great segue into the next thing
is like we were talking aboutthose negative feedback loops.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Where?
If you take growth hormone,yeah, it triggers your body's
negative feedback loop becauseit doesn't see the growth
hormone releasing peptide to thegrowth hormone to the end
receptors.
It just sees like a huge amountof growth hormone.
So your negative feedback looptells your body to stop creating
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anything and everything downpath to creating more growth
hormone.
So you're getting less growthhormone releasing peptide yeah
right and less endogenous orfancy word for what your body
makes that as growth hormone and, and that's why you want to
cycle it, you want that iscycling.
You do the you do five days on,two days off and before we even
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get into that, yeah is like it'salso why it's preferential to
take a releasing peptide ratherthan the growth hormone itself
uh, not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
It matters what you want to do, what you're looking
for.
You know some people growthhormone works perfect for like
building muscles.
Uh, I, I think it's moreeffective than the growth
hormone releasing peptides.
Um, and I've used igf, which iswhat growth hormone actually
releases, and with igf you likestraight up see, like right away
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you get cut up and like buildmuscle and it's great, but
you're not supposed to be on itlong term.
I, I do it for like I do it for20, 30 days and come off and
I'll usually days on off, or doyou spend more time I?
Usually spend a lot of time off.
I'll do it like once.
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What do you think like if?
Speaker 5 (23:15):
someone's trying to get like maximum effect of this.
Like, let's say, if you'regoing out trying to hit 71 home
runs yeah, but doing an illegalmanner what would your cycle
look like?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
um, I don't, I don't know you could do every day on,
but I'd probably do like fivedays or six days on and one to
two days off and just have thewashout cycle and then be off of
it, for they say six, six weeks, and then back on it for six
weeks.
Six weeks on six weeks for me.
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I do it like twice a year forlike 20 days.
I don't like um, and I do itlike if I got a big trip planned
.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I try to get you know , especially a beach trip, not
going skiing or something stillshowing off at the beach most
people, especially young people,probably don't realize that
they're walking around right now, at about 55, maybe 60 of their
true state of normal.
There is a nutrient, an aminoacid, a substrate, a compound,
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an element missing from theirbody that, if they knew what it
was, would make the differencebetween them being an average
person and being a superhuman.
They have accepted something aseither a consequence of aging
or a consequence of stress, or aconsequence of their
environment, something likebrain fog or repeated poor sleep
, or weight gain or waterretention or not the healthiest
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response to exercise, or brainfog or poor short-term recall,
or any number of things thatthey've accepted as consequence
of life, of aging, of stress orwhat have you.
That's not a consequence of anyof those things.
It's a consequence of missingraw material.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
What do you think?
That think, that's your boy.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
No, he's right because, like all that stuff you
know could be attributed tohormone imbalances, like he said
, like, and some of that stuffleads to, you know, hormone
imbalances it is hard tounderstand because he's saying
like oh, maybe like one to twothings that you could like.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I took it as like one to two things like you can
ingest will make up for allthese things, where I think it's
like a bigger picture thingwell, you know, for some people
it may just be the one or twothings.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I I think overall you got to fix everything else and
then you go to the hormones.
You know, you got to fix thesleep, you got to fix the
lifestyle with exercise andbeing active, and then you got
to fix the nutrition.
You can't just like eat likecrap and expect the other two to
make up for it take 12 vitaminb12 tablets a day.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
That's what I was in.
No, that's what I took it as Iwas just like okay, you can't
just do one.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Almost everybody is like yeah all those are going to
elevate and like eating wholefoods and all those are going to
elevate your hormones and getthem more in balance.
But you know, if you'rechronically like doing the wrong
things, then it's going to betough even fixing those.
But, like, sometimes it's goingto be a mixture, right, you're
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going to fix, you're going tohave to fix the mixture right.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
It's lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And, like some people , can get away with just fixing
their lifestyle, the way theyeat, the way they sleep, the
decrease in stress levels, andthey don't need the hormone
treatment.
But some people, even with that, they can't get their hormones
right where you know they needthat boost to be able to, like,
live stress-free, be morefocused or on be able to build
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more muscle, just trying to dothe hormone replacement to make
up for all these stressors andeverything that's compounding in
their life.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Where, like you, got to take like a holistic approach
to address every issue, yeah,where like those can, it might
take care of some of thesymptoms.
But it's not going to be likethis, is it?
This is your magic pill where,like, you get this hormone
straight, yeah, your mind'sgoing to be set.
It's going to take care of yourmarital problems.
You're going to become a betterdad, like that that's what I'm
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saying like there's probablysome adjustment overall yeah
rather than just blaming onething for everything that might
not be optimized, but a lot ofthe things.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Although I'm the, you know I use stuff and like I
think it's let to me beingbetter in other ways.
But, um, but like exercise ishuge, because that exercise two
things it gets your stress out,gets your meditation, there you
get better sleep, you buildmuscle which helps you get
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better sleep.
It you build muscle which helpsyou get better sleep increases
your testosterone.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
Yeah, like so five times a week.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, and resistance training, you got to do
resistance training.
You got to build that muscle toincrease one to two hours a
week, yeah, and the other thingis, if you, if you have a lot of
fat, you're going to haveincreased estrogen levels, which
is going to be it's going tomake it tougher to lose the fat
and you're going to be moreirritable, and you know.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Not just that, increased fat and, secondarily,
estrogen levels probably lead tomore cause of cancer and
increased incidence of cancer,depression, anxiety, yeah, so
there's some root causes thatyou can really take care.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
So I was actually I.
I always get stuff every dayfrom like metscape and stuff.
There are two interestingstudies.
One was, um, they studied withgenetic or um, what is it
biological aging withmultivitamins.
I was trying to research andsee what multivitamin these
people were taking, that theywere studying them and they did
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five biological, differentbiological markers.
One was the first generation,one was the second generation
and then they had this third one.
I think it's built bythemselves and it showed
flintstone people yeah, people.
It was a two-year, two-yearstudy.
People that took themultivitamins had a 20 percent
decreased mortality rate and ordecreased biological age than
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the placebo how they measurebiological age I.
I was trying to find the paperthat they were coming out with I
.
I think this is a prelim likestatement before the paper
officially comes out.
So I was trying to.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I'm a little skeptical with that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
All that matters on how they were studying it on
patients that were 70 plus.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
So that's still good, yeah yeah, so but that
population is also more likelyto be deficient on a lot of
vitamins well, nowadays,nowadays, everyone's deficient
in something.
Because of no, that is true,but like the older you get like.
If you're over 70 years old,you just rely on like like we.
(30:19):
We learned in med school yeah,like tea crackers, like you're
just like wait what?
You guys just feed this topeople for like months on end,
like they're more prone to bedeficient in all these.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, uh, smaller, moni smaller molecule but that
that's crazy, with just amultivitamin to decrease
biological aging by more than 20?
So yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
So if you have some, if you have a relative over 70,
you clearly got to make surethey take their vitamins, take
their protein shakes, and thatin itself will add years to
their lives.
Might not have like scientific,like hard proof, but yeah, I'd
like if there's something littleyou can do to add two to five
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years life expectancy tosomebody you love, like why
wouldn't you do that?
Yeah, and it's not.
You don't have to go fancy oranything like just make sure
they have their protein intake.
Eat your chicken.
If they need supplements withshakes, get your multivitamin,
and and there you go.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's a good starting point and then you can build on
that yeah, and they just got tobe active and have people that
support them around them.
That's like the Blue Zone stuffwe always talk about.
It's like when they feel likethere's someone in their
community and some people careabout them, they're going to
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live longer, yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
So stop by to deliver the multivitamins and just talk
for a little bit.
Hang out, go for a walktogether.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
That means a whole lot Like whether it means
anything to you or not.
Like health, wise, longterm,like that that adds years, yeah
To people's lives.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
How about taking care of grandkids?
Do you think that adds years,or?
It definitely does itdefinitely does I think there's
research with, like people whoown.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the research that people
who own dogs live longer.
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, andpeople that have kids at older
age live longer too.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Really, yeah, I think there's research out for that
too it's also the will ofshorter, though it's also the
will to live.
I think more people have thewill to live, yeah yeah, it's
will to live like I.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I personally think I like the dog ones because,
coming back to the hormones, itmakes perfect sense well, you
have to go take your dogs outfor a walk.
You have to go out and get somesunlight to begin the day.
Maybe go out for a walk againanother time during the day.
So the companionship helps Also.
(33:11):
Again, that sunlight that setsyou off way better from like
cortisol levels.
Again, getting that sunlightwithin the first hour.
Oxytocin exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Dogs have like eight to ten times the oxytocin of
human beings.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
That's why they oh really won't leave you alone I
did not know that.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Yeah, that's crazy, that's yeah, that's why they
hump you every second.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, yeah you could smack them, and they still love
you, yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
There is all the shit I got from sprouts today.
As someone who suffers fromanxiety and hormonal issues, you
want to start your day off inthe best mood ever.
I promise you Moringa tea.
Moringa has something in itcalled quercetin which
influences your serotonin levelsin the brain.
It's going to increaseserotonin and just make you feel
really good and happy.
Next I have Coco June organiccultured coconut yogurt.
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This is not only good for yourhormone health because it's a
source of healthy fat and it's agreat source of probiotics, but
it also is really great foryour mental health because it
contains medium chaintriglycerides just basically
brain fuel an absurd amount ofchomps.
This is just to hit my proteingoal each day as a snack.
Protein is very important forhormone synthesis.
You literally need protein tomake hormones.
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It also helps regulate yourblood sugar levels so no spikes
in blood sugar and it helps withestrogen balance.
There is one tea I can tellwomen to take for hormone health
.
It is raspberry leaf tea.
It supports the tone andstrength of uterine muscles.
This is very useful for peoplewho experience menstrual cramps
or anyone who is about to gothrough child labor.
It helps with balancing outyour hormones and it reduces
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heavy menstrual flow.
It is the best tea you couldpossibly drink as a woman.
I swear by it the best almondmilk out there almond milk.
Almonds contain vitamin E, andvitamin E reduces oxidative
stress in the body.
I also don't like to drinkdairy milk often, every single
day, just because it makes mebloated, personally.
And almond milk this is thecleanest almond milk you will
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ever find in the grocery store,so this is why I like to buy
this brand, in particular,cremini mushrooms.
Cremini mushrooms are a greatsource of B vitamins, which will
give you energy.
They help convert your foodinto cellular energy Also are a
great source of selenium, whichis the happy mineral.
This is also the same mineralfound in brazilian nuts.
Then I got micro broccoli.
I just like the vibe of addingthis in a bowl.
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I like the way it looks, butthey are very nutrient dense.
They're full of antioxidantswhich can benefit both your
brain health and your hormonehealth.
Sweet potatoes are insane.
People don't realize this, butsweet potatoes are adaptogens.
They contain compounds calledanthocyanins which help your
body respond to stress better.
It's particularly useful forwomen who are struggling with
their cycle because ofstress-related issues.
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They also containphytoestrogens, which have a
mild estrogen effect.
This is also really great foranyone who just recently got off
the pill and they containvitamin B6, which is a precursor
to make serotonin.
They get senna tea.
Um, senna is a natural herbthat helps with constipation,
but this is not going to benefityour hormone health or your
mental health.
Well, it might.
If you're constipated, do takeit, because I take iron
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supplements and sometimes I justneed some extra assistance.
And then, to get some greens in, I like to get the pre-made
salads from Taylor Farms.
I got the dill pickle and thesunflower crunch chopped salad
kit.
Lastly, to reduce inflammationin the body, purple sweet potato
.
This is a very stronganti-inflammatory agent.
It also is rich in fiber and ithelps regulate your blood sugar
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levels, so you won't have anysudden deep cravings throughout
the day.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Okay, so most of the stuff she said I agree with.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
The chomps.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
They can't be good they're, they're, yeah, they're
really good, because of highprotein levels yeah, but they
have a crap ton of sodium, likeeach one of the chomps.
I had a couple today, but eachone has like over 30 percent of
your sodium uh daily value ofsodium.
So you, you have two of thosesticks.
That's not going to fill you upfor 60 of your day, but you
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consumed 60 of your sodium intolike beef sticks or whatever you
call it that was.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
That was an easy 200 shopping list.
That was dude.
But you go to sprouts.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
If you go to sprouts, you, you got $200 shopping list
.
That was dude, but you go tosprouts.
If you go to sprouts, you, yougot a $200 shopping list either
way.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Um the it's just the broccoli, it's like seven bucks
and it might be two servings inthere.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
It's expensive, the broccoli sprouts and stuff it's
I.
I personally like it a lot Verynutritious, like broccoli
sprouts.
It's good too.
Yeah, they actually haveservings of broccoli sprouts
that aren't quite what sheshowed, but something different
that's cheaper, that's morenutrient dense than the more
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grown sprouts that she showed.
Those are really good,especially if you want to make
like a greens mix or a greenjuice.
I, kind of like a maniac, eatit right out of a container.
What else did you?
The one thing is almond milk.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Why wouldn't you just take a supplement?
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Almond milk.
I am not sold on almond milk.
What?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
do you?
Speaker 5 (38:16):
mean I don't know there's something
environmentally and holisticallyagainst almond milk.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Do you like cashew milk?
No.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
So any of the nut milks, because a lot of those
farms that grow those nuts arelike depriving depriving like
the Colorado river from drainingdown.
I guess it's because we're inArizona, but like it's leading
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to a lot of droughts even inlike Southern California,
because of how much waters likesiphoned off or specifically
like almond farms.
All right, interesting.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
So you get oat milk, which is not good Oat milk
fucking sucks.
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
It's not good for your sugar.
I don't like alternative milks.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, I've just started to go back to just doing
whole milk, but I don't drinkmuch milk anyway.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
I can't.
I still do it.
Yeah, and I love whole milk,but my skin flares up when I
drink whole dairy.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Well, that's where you've got to get the lorazetide
GI repair.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I did lorazetide.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
You've got to do the GI repair from Level Up, Level
Up.
They got BPC, lorazetide andKPV together.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
But most of that I agree with.
There's no reason not to do itbut you can take a supplement
like rather than doing that thatis true, but there I do believe
that some things you absorbbetter with natural foods than a
supplement with a food yeah,you got to take a shit ton of it
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where you get it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Get it in a tiny pill .
Speaker 5 (40:03):
But you can't just eat pills, but you but you gotta
also.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
You know like you gotta get it from like a
well-sourced place, that youknow like we use thorn, you know
what's in there and you'regetting the appropriate balance
of um he did mention thorn, so,thorn, if you're looking to for
paid advertisement, we got yourback don't be cheap.
(40:28):
So I was saying the otherarticle that I looked at was,
you know they were talking aboutglp-1s and the weight loss from
being on GLP-1s and diabeticsthat is correlated with
decreased cancer risk, which youknow.
Even metformin, because I thinkhow it moderates your sugars
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and you're not spiking and beingall over the place.
You're not in that inflammatorystate of creating cancer, so
you're going to have muchdecreased cancer risk.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
It kind of puts you in extremes.
Right, if you're a diabetic,your blood sugar goes extremely
high and extremely low, yeah.
Or compared to somebody thatstays in a tight range.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Same thing with your heart rate right.
Yeah, like that's like my keyright now in like working out
and getting motivated to workout is I'm like, just looking at
my resting heart rate, I'm likeI got to get that under 70
right now and I have to.
Just looking at my resting heartrate, I'm like I got to get
that under 70 right now and Ihave I want to get it under 60
within a month or two.
Not just that, it's likelooking at that heart rate
(41:39):
compared to walking heart rate,my walking heart rate's like 100
, 105, 110.
And I want to get that under100.
And it's just like if you'reresting heart rate, that's a
good number to go by, because ifthat's not under control, your
heart can go out of whack.
When you go on like do a littlebit of activity, uh like
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because if you're resting heartrates 80, you take like a swift
walk or like just chase a balldown with like your kid or
something, your heart rate mightshoot up to like 120 140.
And you gotta like consideryour lifespan, not in years but
in how many times your heartbeats.
And if you consider that,you're like, okay, I want to get
my walking heart rate down, myresting heart rate down.
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Like.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
This is all connected like, and, and make but if you
count it that way, then if youcount, if you just rest all the
time you're, you have no cause.
Speaker 5 (42:33):
Then cause, then your resting heart rate won't
decrease, right Cause you'reresting, your heart needs to be
conditioned to beat at a lowerpace.
So if you're going to be lyingaround, your resting heart
rate's going to gradual, like,let's say, I was like, uh, like
just a glob of mush lying around.
My resting heart rate's goingto gradually, like, let's say, I
was like, uh, like just a globof mush lying around.
My resting heart rate as I getolder, is just going to keep
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going up, up, up where, like ifyou're working out, it makes it
more efficient, it's pumping theright amount of blood out yeah,
since I got the eight sleep Idon't know if it's the eight
sleep or it's I've also, like,started to use my tonal more um
yeah, my resting heart rate'sgone to 60 to 65, where it used
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to be above 70 all the time no,that's definitely working and
also like when you don't, whenyou eat late at night, your
heart rate remains high untillike end of the, you know,
almost early morning um, anddoesn't really drop, which, like
you know, keep.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
You know fasting at the end of the night and also
the eight sleep and getting gooddeep sleep.
You know my hrv's gone upbecause I could never get it
above 20 until I got the eightsleep.
I like me.
Hrv's gone up and I've beenworking out too, so I'm like
which one is it?
Is it the?
Speaker 5 (43:54):
eight sleeper?
Yeah, it's, it's all of itcombined.
Yeah, it's decreasing stress.
Yeah, eating healthy, having agood routine like if you don't
have a good routine, like it'shard for your body to calm down
when it needs to Exercise isreally important.
Like people are like, oh, I gotto work out to keep my weight
low, it's like no, but it's waymore important to keep your
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heart healthy.
And I forgot the last one.
What was I thinking?
Sex?
No, sex is activity and properhormone release.
Yeah, and yeah, like, justkeeping that down, stay away
from cigarettes, oh cigarettesand alcohol hydration yeah,
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because if you're not properlyhydrated, you don't have the
amount of blood volume in yoursystem, so your heart's going to
work a little extra hard to getthat smaller amount of volume
throughout your body for thatamount of time.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, I saw like a real this weekend.
This guy's like making fun ofpeople showing their morning
routines and he's like I get up,I start doing work.
I'm like all right.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I get up do three lines of coke.
Yeah Boom, and I'm making myphone calls.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I'm like alright, dude, it's more important to do
the cold plunges, do yourworkout or do your stretches.
I've been better aboutstretching and working out one
to two hours of getting up earlyand getting that done, not like
a three, four hour.
I understand that's not.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
I'm still bad when I get up.
It's automatically into thescreen on my phone for like 10
to 20 minutes.
But I've been getting betterabout like even if I do that
screen time getting my stretches, whether it's like a beginner's
yoga or like the resistancebands, getting like between the
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two, it's like, no matter whatit is, whether it's yoga,
stretching, resistance bands,bike I keep all of them to 20
minutes yeah I try to do two ofthose things each morning.
Yeah, so like mondays andfridays, my easy days where I'll
I'll do either yoga orstretching and like, just like a
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beginner, ride on the peloton,like nothing crazy again.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Like maybe my heart rate up to like 130, 140 you
know ram's morning routine Justpraying that he's alive from
Saran, not killing him.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
I'm alive.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
That kid's going to be in a crib with a cover.
Well, last night I mean he justwakes up Last night he had a
nightmare and he was just likefix, fix, fix, I don't know.
Something needed to be fixed inhis nightmare.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
It takes after his grandpa so much he wakes up in a
nightmare, yelling fix, fix,fix I wonder where he gets that
right back to sleep.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
That was hilarious.
I was like oh thanks forruining my sleep but yep, okay,
let's go fix it, would you saythis.
So the study brought decreasedcancer risk.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Yeah, which.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
That makes sense because sugar levels come down.
Most studies will show youlower BMI.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean if you and likeall the cancer studies, lower
BMI is related to, it'scorrelated with Cancer risk is
going to go down if your bloodsugar is controlled, no matter
what.
Yeah, that and more importantlyI think it's more related, like
what Ruz is saying, lower BMIequals lower estrogen levels,
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equals lower cancer risk, evenif, like you look at the studies
recently that come out thatdespite like, early detection,
early treatment of cancers, yeah, for, uh, mostly males between
ages, like it's something like20 to 50 despite that the amount
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of deaths due to those cancershave not decreased, so that it's
an increased prevalence ofthese cancers happening despite
better treatment.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
But it's treatment which is led by big pharma.
They give you these drugs andeven estrogen blockers and stuff
that don't really help peoplesurvive longer.
Speaker 5 (48:28):
It's just yeah, they're poison.
It's just yeah, maybe it's it'sthey're they're they're poison.
Yeah, just directed poison yeahbut if, if that poison has the
right effect, well, before it.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Before I used to think like people were crazy
when they didn't want to takechemo and stuff.
But then you look into it andlike maybe they wanted because
people give me the numbers.
Give me the numbers and startreporting quality of life
measures.
Speaker 5 (48:55):
It's like how good people feel while they're alive.
So like, okay, if I'm going tolive five more years and feel
great while I live those fivemore years, versus living 10
years feeling like shit.
Like tell me, like there's gotto be numbers on those yeah and
that's not available.
Like that shit.
(49:16):
Like I, I would take livingwell for two years over, living
like crap where, like we've seenour patients let me ask this
question so you get whatsupposed cure versus someone
that has cancer?
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Do you think the person that's been cured
mentally is better, or theperson that's been cured?
It's probably every daythinking the cancer's coming
back, right where the guy's likeall right, I got cancer.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
I'm gonna die from this and I'm gonna live my best
life it varies personally,that's a big, like spectrum to
go over, like how people wouldrespond to stressors like that
yeah it's.
It's hard to say you have to gocase by case on that I don't
think you could generalize that.
Yeah, that's what I think,because we've had to go through
(50:19):
it personally.
In our family it's like, okay,this isn't curable but it's
treatable.
Wait, what, I didn't know thatwas a thing.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Dude, we saw both our grandma and grandpa get put
through shit that we're like youguys just got to let them go
and they weren't willing to letthem go.
The family, like us beingphysicians, kept on telling our
parents.
Speaker 5 (50:49):
What's realistic.
If there's a chance like yes,let's go ahead and fight.
If we're but like.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Rod Mayer's, the neurosurgeon, and my grandfather
had a huge aneurysm Right andlike that person, like more,
like you know you're justkeeping them alive, for for your
own good.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
And, like in Iran, the hospital systems aren't as
good as they are in the US.
So it's like you know it juststrains everyone when you're
doing that.
Speaker 5 (51:26):
That's a whole discussion.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
I think, that would be a whole nother episode with
yeah, End of life care.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Yeah, that's, and and just like the mentality behind,
that actually would be a reallygood episode to dive into,
because we're a physician, so wewe also think differently about
it.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
So realistic outlook, yeah, and like I was a general
surgery resident before this, soit's like but you know you've
also seen people in the icupretty aggressive about talking
about end of life, like this guyjust got here.
Speaker 5 (51:58):
Yeah, like you want to like kick back like let's not
.
Let's not try to like, scrapeorgans out of this body or just
yet, oh yeah, when the donornetwork like oh, we're going to
talk about it.
It's like dude's got a suckingchest wound.
Like can we take care of thatchest wound while the family
decides?
It's like I've had some bad,like most of it makes sense, but
(52:22):
some of it's just like you'rekind of pushing.
That's a whole separate episodewe got to of pushing wait.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
That's a whole separate episode.
We gotta, we gotta, we gottasave that one.
Do you recommend any?
Any?
Speaking of this episode, doyou guys recommend anything to
take like just foods to eat forhormones rather than supplements
?
Speaker 2 (52:44):
it's just dude you to keep whole nutritious foods you
know, to just balance.
Speaker 5 (52:50):
Yeah, whole and processed, like cut out
processed stuff there wasresearch put out, like last year
, that said, like directly, likecorrelating the dose of
processed red meat andAlzheimer's, like directly
correlating that.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Processed foods, your oils.
Speaker 5 (53:12):
Yeah, like directly correlating that.
And it was those, your oils.
Yeah, yeah, so like just wholefoods, stay away from processed
foods, keep the protein rich.
Uh, greens like you can't gowrong with greens.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Everybody cut out sugars, yeah, and a lot of
people, and even like even yourmeats and know where your meats
and your fish and stuff aresourced, because if you're going
to farm-raise salmon, you mightthink it tastes great, but
that's inflammatory.
You're going to get the omega-6sinstead of the omega-3s, like
(53:42):
good grass-fed beef, and thatfish has been eating other
fish's shit the whole time yeah,so organic grass-fed beef is
going to get you plenty of likeomega-3s that you know, that
crappy piece of uh salmon itlacks, and it's going to be more
inflammatory than eating a nicefresh proteins greens, get some
(54:05):
antioxidants.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
Some people overdo it with the fruit but, yeah, keep
a little like well balanced,even though like what the
traditional well balance is like.
Yeah, you don't need to eat abanana every day.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
You don't need to eat an apple every day.
Keep it more vegetables thanfruits.
Fruits to a minimum.
You know I I eat oranges, justyou know, during flu season and
stuff just to pick up thevitamins.
Speaker 6 (54:32):
And then once a month , just butt, chug some coffee.
This is day one of takingtestosterone.
So about two months ago I wentto a medical lab center that
takes all of your blood and thenruns a full lab examination on
them.
For three or four years I'vebeen suffering a lot with some
crazy weird symptoms that Icould just never figure out.
What was going on, like extremefatigue, brain fog, low energy,
low motivation.
In general I was having reallybad migraines so I was hoping,
(54:54):
going to this lab they could seeif anything was wrong.
They tested like a millionthings.
It was kind of overwhelming.
They did my white blood cellcount, all the vitamins in my
body, thyroid, my hormones.
When my doctor and I startedtalking about my hormones, she
noticed that my testosteronelevels were like super, super,
super, super low.
Usually when you think oftestosterone you think of men
and male hormones, but womenactually need testosterone too.
(55:15):
If you have very low levels itcan cause symptoms like fatigue,
brain fog, feeling weak, tired,and that's how I was feeling.
She prescribed me a low dose oftestosterone to try out and I
wanted to share my process withit because I feel like a lot of
women might not know about itand it might be a good option
for you.
So this is what it looks like.
It's in a little like deodoranttube, I guess you click it out
and then rub it on the inside ofyour arms.
(55:36):
You can take it in a coupledifferent ways, but this is the
way that she prescribed me.
If you want to see how it goes,then follow along and comment
if you have any questions.
Speaker 5 (55:45):
I personally love that like a lot, and sometimes
it might not even show up in labtests, but it shows up
symptomatically, like whereyou're feeling this way and
especially with like the last 10, 15 years we've gone with
medicine where, like you go inwith like I'm feeling kind of
drowsy or whatever.
(56:07):
A lot of people turn in to whatAdderall.
Well, amphetamines like andthat's like what we've turned
into and with the problem withthat anxiolytics?
Yeah, yeah and it's kind oflike masking the symptom rather
than taking care of the symptom.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
Well you can treat it , but, like I, I would want to
know more about this beforebeing like all right, because no
I, I know, but she's a, she's ayoung girl, so you, you got to
figure out why, you know like,is it her diet?
Is she not sleeping right?
Is she got some heavy metalpoisoning, like what?
Where is she working?
(56:45):
Is she high stress?
Because, because, you got tofix all this stuff.
And you got to figure out whyshe's testosterone deficient.
Speaker 5 (56:56):
No, but I think a lot of people are on Exactly you
got to come down with the rootcause, but still.
Speaker 4 (57:04):
But hormones can't treat testosterone.
Speaker 5 (57:09):
Replacing her testosterone is better than
getting our antidepressantsantidepressants, anxiolytics,
Adderall, Like and we knowpeople on those, like multiple
people, that are just increasingthe dose.
But I'm just saying someoneyoung like her.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
I would definitely like try to see everything
before just going totestosterone, because a lot of
people aren't going to do theheavy metal testing or try to
figure out why their life's, andtake a good questionnaire of
the life lifestyle and figureout what's causing the root
issue for her to be testosteronedeficient and what's
(57:47):
testosterone deficient infemales.
It's kind of a guessing gamewith females and sometimes it is
just, you know, more withsymptomatic treatment than
anything else.
Because I had, you know, I hadpatients come in.
They, you know, they just go inthese clinics.
They're like, oh, they'refeeling great, just keep on
boosting it up.
And then they get clitoralhypertrophy and they're coming
with a mustache, yeah, yeah.
(58:08):
And they're like, oh, they'refeeling great, just keep on
boosting it up.
And then they get clitoralhypertrophy and they're coming
with a mustache.
Yeah, kind of in mind.
Yeah, and they're like what?
What can I do about this?
Speaker 5 (58:16):
so hey, doc, a lot of it feels great I'm about to
throw you through this.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
A lot of it's reversible, with just getting
them balanced and to the rightdose yeah but but like, yeah,
young patients, though you gotta, they're going to try to get
pregnant and stuff, and you gotto worry about that, yeah, but
also sometimes they need to beon hormones, like for females,
they need to be on progesteroneto be able to get pregnant
(58:45):
because they might be estrogendominant and not producing
enough progesterone.
Speaker 5 (58:50):
It's all about the balance.
Yeah, homeostasis so the onlinepeople are asking whether
testosterone is something thatcan make you taller yeah, I used
to be as tall as rom until Itook testosterone towering over
all my brothers.
I don't think so once yourgrowth plates fuse, unless
you're taking it while you'regrowing, which I would not
(59:14):
recommend.
It doesn't scientifically makesense.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
That's the issue with growth hormone too.
That's where you find the hippain, the wrist pain, because
your bone's going to grow butthe plates are fused, so you're
not going to grow taller, it'sjust going to increase in
density.
Speaker 5 (59:32):
Yeah, with Barry Bond's forehead.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
How about the new surgery that people are doing to
make themselves taller?
Speaker 5 (59:41):
That's another episode.
Where and how is testosteroneproduced?
Speaker 2 (59:47):
Your testes.
Speaker 5 (59:48):
Balls yeah, you could have made it easy.
Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah, listening but you're like, well it's.
It's a conversion of.
You know comes from cholesterol, gets converted to dht and I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
And for females it's from estrogen that gets
converted to testosterone,correct?
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
or how did they?
Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
no, testosterone gets converted to estrogen like
where does the testosterone comefrom?
In females, though, they havetestosterone.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Females have testosterone, but where does it
come?
Ovaries, ovaries, yeah oh okay,yeah, just your, it's the
reproductive same thing.
Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Okay, clearly it's balls on the inside, okay
physiology.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
It's been a while, for I know it's been like step
one for me.
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