July 30, 2025 • 52 mins
What if your biggest injury became your biggest breakthrough?
Fitness champion Whitney Jones reveals how she kept competing after a brutal shoulder dislocation and broken collarbone—all during the Olympia.
From cold plunges to resistance band workouts, she shares how mental toughness, smart training, and putting yourself first can transform the way you age, move, and live.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Dr Ruzbitt-Tarabi at Age Proof
Podcast, and this is Dr RobBitt-Tarabi, and we have Whitney
Jones with us today and we'retalking about longevity, her
practices and what she's donethroughout her career.
So what did you do to yourshoulders, like well?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
uh, so I'm a pro athlete, I do fitness
competitions and gosh, trying toremember the first few times
the last one I was on stage atolympia and was doing one of my
tricks a front flip kip yeah andI had kind of tweaked it a few
weeks earlier and justadrenaline pushed off of it yeah
and my shoulder dislocated,ended up tearing the rotator
(01:00):
cuff and then broke mycollarbone just from that
movement Mid flip.
Yeah, I know Wasn't pretty, butthat was the fifth time that
I've injured it.
So it was like hey woman, areyou going to slow down?
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I know from for me my shoulders.
Like you know, I used to benchpress like pretty heavily in
competition when I was youngerin high school and I kind of I
used to bench press like prettyheavily in competition when I
was younger, yeah, in highschool, and I kind of stopped
during college Not stoppedlifting heavy, but I was still
lifting heavy, but stopped doingthe competitions but like my
shoulders are pretty junk.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You still bench over 400 at that point, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But like my shoulders are just junk and like going to
do a breast augmentation youknow, it's like the you're like
forcing your shoulders and, um,you know, I I've thought about
like I got to get stem cellsinto the shoulders.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
At some point.
I don't see why you wouldn'tyeah.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I know it's just to even alleviate or get the better
range of motion.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, and a lot of it's also.
Yeah, I've been trying to getmore into range of motion and
like stretching, like especiallylike I keep on hearing knees
over toes guys.
So I went and bought one ofthose platforms to just like do
Nordic curls and back extensions.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Just try to like my posterior chain's just tight as
hell, because we stand up thereworking on a microscope.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh yeah, I can't even imagine.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, just honestly, if you just stretch your
hamstrings and your pecs, it'lljust overall put you in and
workout glutes.
It'll put you in better posturefor longer portions of the day
yeah.
So that should like minimizelike wear and tear.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Or even go to those places because, like so many
people, like a lot of the day,yeah, yeah, so that should like
minimize like wear and tear oreven go to those places Cause,
like so many people, like a lotof the clients I'd train they're
like I'm not going to stretch,I'm like then go pay like
stretch lab.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
They're dangerous and do it Stretch lab.
Stretch lab, absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I agree, I will only send people who are like not
super tight or not super member.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Tell them not to have them touch the neck, because
the guy was.
They touched the neck.
The guy cranked on my neck andI'm like you're not even a chiro
, oh wow, no, I didn't know thisand I'm like I already have
like herniated C5-6.
I'm like you got to stop doingwhat you're doing, and then they
kept on texting me to go back.
I'm like no, to go back.
(03:28):
I'm like no, I'm like I.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I came here to stretch out my legs and you're
cranking on my neck.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'm like, because they're all I'm like.
You're not even chiropractor.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
These kids are like yeah they're kids, they're
basically they're like oh yeah,they've never.
I went twice just to test itout, but it was all like back
lower body.
That's what I was expecting.
I was like my lower body.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I just need my lower body stretched out and like they
start, they crank my neck sideand I'm like what?
And my nurse practitioner?
She actually dissected hercarotid and she continues to
have issues from a chiropractoroh like wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Aggressive adjustments now I'm not a fan of
that, so I'm biased, but like,if you're going to go, just go
to a manual therapy.
Certified physical therapist.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Someone who knows what they're doing with anything
right Like make sure whoeveryou're paying services for that
they know what the hell you'redoing.
Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I did it to just like check it out.
I'm like oh if it's a place Ican go and they just stretch out
my legs for me and get me alittle more range of motion.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Then I was like, no, this is fucking oh, that's scary
yeah my wife's a therapist, soyeah, no, she does great job
yeah, the funny part is I wasjust like, because they do
insurance and they do, in scotts, there's a cash pay patient
clientele and I kept asking themfor our patients, like cosmetic
(04:50):
patients that don't want to gothrough insurance.
And when she told me their cashpay price it was like cheaper
than massage therapy.
You're kidding?
No, I'm not.
I personally I'm in medicine.
I always thought like, oh,that'll cost me that much.
So even if you do haveinsurance and some people's
co-pays are higher than justpaying cash out of pocket- well,
(05:13):
massage therapy, you're talkingabout massages.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Uh, going to like phoenician, or uh?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
well, it's definitely cheaper than that, but it's.
Yeah, I would say it's close tolike.
But it's very similar to likegoing yeah, a median, not like
because you pay for theamenities, the other places
you're paying for, like you know, their hot tubs sure all the
different amenities yeah but itwas.
I was just like, oh wow, Ididn't, I didn't realize that.
(05:40):
Yeah, I'm sending morecosmetics patients just over
there totally I know how wellshe's trained and how much
schooling she's gone through andanytime we get like aches or
something, yeah you're like help?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
yeah, I mean I got.
Do I still have the?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
bruising from the cuffs.
Yeah, cupping and needling yeahcupping, dry, needling, kinesio
tape, and then the manualtherapy is just fantastic.
But you also have to be adamantabout doing stuff yourself.
So if you're not again,stretches exercises, because
some people like, oh, I justwant to get massages like that,
(06:17):
that'll help and certain manualwill help.
But if you're, if you're notadamant about your how you, it's
going to be hard to get betterFor sure.
Especially, I mean, who do youtrain?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Are you training like athletes or Both I train pro
athletes who compete in theworld of bodybuilding.
But I don't train any likebodybuilders, so my specialty
when it comes to athletes isfemales, specifically in the
fitness division.
So that's the division where wedo the flips and the jumps and
the choreograph routines orbikini athletes, figure athletes
(06:51):
, so not the overly muscular,basically anyone that gets on
stage and has to flex.
That's not my forte, it's.
It's all the divisions lowerwhere it's kind of like a beauty
pageant with muscles, or theathletic component, which is the
fitness division.
But then I also train everydaylifestyle clients as well as
specialty and pre and postnatal.
(07:11):
That was always my favorite.
I'm a mom, so the biggest thingafter having kids was like oh
my God, am I going to be able toget my body back?
And clearly there's alwayscosmetic surgery, but you've got
to do your part first.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And then, if you can't, that's where you know.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, my wife's been looking for someone, so that's
perfect.
Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's just like those women need that boost of
confidence.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And you're so tired and you're just.
You look in the mirror andyou're just like what?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So just having that was always my favorite.
To Like what?
Yeah, so just having that wasalways my favorite.
To make time for yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And that's yeah, that's the biggest thing.
Like my wife tries to doeverything for everyone else and
then she's like her time's likethe last thing and I'm like no,
you got to make your body yourpriority and she kind of looks
down on me for actually doingthe total.
I'm like it's me first, like myI.
(08:06):
You know we have people to takecare of our kids.
I'm gonna go and do my workouts.
make sure I'm ready to leave thehouse when I leave the house
and then go to work and thencome, come back and if I need to
get another workout in orwhatever, but spend some time
with the kids and the way I'vestarted to do it is take the
kids into the room and work outwith them.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah totally.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
They work out with me .
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So, like to help the situation but, like you know,
it's like you've got to just putyourself first and just take
care of it, otherwise it getsout of hand.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I agree, like I was a single mom.
My boys were three and fivewhen I suddenly became a single
mom and it was like, oh my gosh,and I owned businesses and I'm
chasing world championshiptitles and it's like, how do you
prioritize?
That right but I realize, if Idon't take care of myself first,
especially mentally, you've gotto have that yeah that time to
(08:59):
check out and do something foryou.
Yeah, then you can take on theworld and you can handle it.
Otherwise it's like thatresentment and you're just like
everything feels so heavy.
And even if it's 30 minutes aday, yeah, it does wonders.
It does it does.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And like I, I noticed that like I went to ireland and
I had tough time with like jetlag and getting back and I had
before I went there I worked outpretty hard and then like all
of a sudden I'm like you knowwas so busy.
As soon as I came back I waslike no, I gotta like get in
there and just take the time anddo it like and you know,
(09:36):
there's just like I got a smallamount of time to get things
done because the kids are gonnago to sleep or the kids are
gonna wake up, so you gotta justget things done, don't you just
going to go to sleep, or thekids are going to wake up, so
you got to just get things done.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Don't you just wish we could have clones already?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
One day, at least one , to sleep the humanoid robots
are coming.
Exactly Right.
We got to be careful, he can.
He can lift the weights for meyeah, totally there you go no.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Oh, one thing I was going to ask.
A lot of people underestimatehow much that prenatal period is
important with postnatal care.
So I'm sure you get people bothways, like some that are
planning to set themselves up sothat after the child they're
(10:20):
quick to bounce back and jumpback into it, because if you
have the habits built up already, and you just take like I don't
know how long the break peopletake.
I know my wife was working outpretty aggressively leading up
to childbirth and I think shejust took like three, four weeks
off, yeah, um, and then likeshe bounced back very fast.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I think it's important the prenatal stuff
although my wife didn't get intoit.
But I think she went throughIVF and I think she got pretty
big right away.
She's got a small torso and Ithink, too many hormones and
(11:02):
stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, yeah, that's a lot that process.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
It's also easy for us to sit here and talk about it
and I think like too manyhormones and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, that process.
It's also easy for us to sithere and talk about it.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But, like, like overall I think being pregnant
and getting to the gym it helpswith like I forget what it was,
like I was actually thinkingabout it and, like you know,
like having her like work outand stuff, especially like going
if she wants to go through itagain, you know, just so she can
keep her musculature and stuff,so she doesn't lose it.
(11:32):
And then, like you know,recovery and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I think would be a lot better Having a good
foundation is crucial, even justespecially for women who are
going through fertilitytreatments, because mentally the
oh, it's horrible go throughand I was one of those as well
with my kids and it's like thisconstant emotional roller
coaster.
It's great to have that to kindof pour into as you're in the
(11:56):
process yeah now not goingextreme, because that's where
some people are like I'mplanning to have a baby, I need
to get fit now because I'm goingto gain weight not the right
time or I just found out I'mpregnant.
I can't get fat again.
Not the right time so buthaving that good baseline of you
know at least light lifting umsome type of cardio or activity
(12:16):
that you're doing and buildingthat strong abdominal, that core
, that abdominal wall is goingto help, labor delivery,
delivery, all of that.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yep, you'll push that kid right through the room.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, just boom, boom rocket.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So have you always been into fitness, or was this,
like you know, when did you Notreally?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I was always an athlete growing up.
I had two older brothers, butyou know, back then it was you
played any sport that yourparents would let you hear.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I grew up in Arizona YMCA.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So it was like you're in a 12-week program, the next
one.
So soccer and I tried to playfootball Like I did anything,
again being the little sisterand the only girl I just wanted
to be like them.
And then you know, growing up I, I did sports through high
school, college.
I ended up um on the dance tierfor su and um loved that.
(13:11):
But then after that it was like, okay, now it's time to get in
the real world yeah and so Istarted career, and that's where
your fitness just kind ofplummets yeah
and I loved I'm ultracompetitive.
So I lost that element andended up going into signing up
for endurance events, you know,triathlons, sprint triathlons,
marathons, loved that.
(13:32):
But I'm like God, I thoughtpeople got fit with this and
that was not the case.
So then I just started goingback to the gym and lifting
weights.
But I was one of those womenwho thought I don't want to be
bulky and get so big with allthese muscles.
Obviously, total misconception,I didn't know.
But I saw these women gettingfit in the gym and you know just
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kind of slowly getting in shape, tight-toned bodies, like what
are they doing?
And actually ended up gettinginto this sport that I ended up,
you know, kind of flourishingin and building a career out of,
out of a dare.
I just inquired like, why arethey so fit?
And they're like well, youcouldn't do that.
Yeah, I could.
And from that moment on it waslike well, then, do a
(14:18):
competition.
I'm like done.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I'm like what did I just sign up for, you know?
But that's what?
Again, I think it was thatcompetitive drive.
I had no desire.
I was like I got to get onstage in a bikini and let people
judge me.
I don't care what they think,you know.
So it was totally this weirdmisconception.
But if I say I'm going to dosomething, I'm going to do it,
and so it's like you just findthat way, block that fear.
(14:42):
I'm like I got to figure outhow to walk in a bikini and not
act like I am scared to death.
I need to get my body in shape.
And then I actually did it, butthen found out there was this
division where there was theathletic component.
I have no formal gymnasticstraining, nothing.
But I was like that sounds likeit's going to be really hard.
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So that's totally my thing.
So that's how I got into it andit was just honestly.
I had no desire to be pro, hadnever heard of the Olympia at
that time and was like I justlike having this, to have a
focus and a goal.
Yeah, and then had some lifethings happen, with my mom
passing away with cancer andthen a divorce and it was like I
(15:27):
need something positive to pourmy life into because, being a
mom with two young boys, if Ilet life's catastrophes define
me, I'm going to be one of thesetrain wrecks that you see on TV
.
And I refuse to be that.
So I need something positive,like I'm not going to get into
drugs, I'm not going to be oneof these train wrecks that you
see on TV and I refuse to bethat.
So I need something positive,like I'm not going to get into
(15:48):
drugs, I'm not going to startdrinking, like I got to pour it
into something.
So it all kind of worked out,timing wise to say you know what
, why don't I give this sport alittle more effort and set some
goals?
And it was like, okay, I'mgoing to turn pro, I'm going to
get my pro card, and then let'sjust see where it goes.
And it was.
It was a positive thing that, asan athlete, there's so many
(16:11):
business applications for methat I learned in how you are as
an athlete, with you know doingthings that are difficult,
taking on massive risks, havingconfidence when you show up on
stage, just like you do in aboardroom, having to almost fake
it till you make it in instance.
There's so many applications asa top athlete that helped me
(16:32):
build all my differentbusinesses.
And so then it's like, okay,this is great, because what I'm
learning here as an athletehelps business and what I'm
learning as business helps me asan athlete.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And I just kept going and for 15 years this was my
thing of building businesses andbeing an athlete.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah.
And we, we always take it backto our wrestling days because,
like the days in the trenches,with wrestling it's like nothing
else.
You're like in med school, likeyou know you could quit.
Or you're like in med school,like you know you could quit.
Or you're like no, six minuteson the mat I got six minutes and
just do it yes and like you're,like you know one more round.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Much you put in, the main thing from wrestling I took
away is like whether I did goodor bad, or just like I knew
what I put in and that's what Igot out.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
So and that's what the same thing with our sport
Like.
It's a subjective sport.
I go do the most bad-assroutine and the judges would be
like, nah, not very impressed,yeah.
But I knew at the end of theday I got to judge.
So every competition before I Iwalked up those platform steps,
before I ever hit the stage Idid my own judgment of did I win
(17:43):
or lose?
Yeah, before I ever hit thestage I did my own judgment of
did I win or lose?
Yeah, and I didn't always win,and there were some times I had
to step out on that stage goingI didn't give it everything.
I didn't practice, I cheated onmy diet, I gave up on certain
routine practice, whatever itwas it's on us yeah.
And again, there's times I gaveit my all and I didn't win.
But I was was like these judgesaren't going to define my value
(18:06):
.
I know I won, yeah, and that'swhat it comes down to.
Discipline it comes down tohard work, showing up and doing
what.
What you need to do when noone's watching?
Yeah, and that's what helps usas human beings, um, in our line
of work, whatever that is isjust doing the hard stuff when
there's no prize, yeah, at theend of the day, day in and day
out.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, and like vision quests I always talk about our
vision quests that you know ourcoach would lay us down and just
walk you through your moves towin the state championships, and
like you'd go through it overand over again and like surgery
is kind of very similar.
You know, you're like you kindof pre-plan everything, look at
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the pictures the night before,the day before and go through
all your steps, you know.
And I kind of got into plastics, kind of the same reason you
got into the fitness thing.
People told me I couldn't doplastic surgery.
So I was like, oh all right.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You're like really Try me.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, so I just put my head down and continued going
and it was like every step ofthe way everyone told me I
couldn't do it, so, like.
But now you know, I've been inpractice for 10 years, so and
people chuckle in like third andfourth year like okay, right
out of the caribbean med school.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
You're gonna go become a plastic surgeon I still
remember that I'm like we'llsee.
I know, I know I got a shot atit and I know you don't, because
it lights a fire, like whenthere's that doubt.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
If you have that discipline and the your
self-confidence, all you need isa little bit of doubt to be
like, oh, it's on yeah, it's onyeah, because even like my, my
last year of wrestling, like I'dgo into tournaments, like and
it was bad because I'd I'd likedrink and be hung over.
Um, I don't drink anymore rightnow, but like I'd be hung over
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and I'd go and like one of thesebig tournaments no way, and I
used to be like 200 pounds,wrestling heavyweight, like
people up to 275.
They'd be like these muscular,huge guys and I'd be like I'd go
on there and I didn't give ashit.
And that's like I think beinghung over kind of gave me this
like mind of like not evencaring, yeah, like, like, oh,
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they're, they're some top guy inthe region or whatever, and I'd
go and like be like all right,oh, I'd win, and it's like you
know.
It's like now, looking back atit, you know that's like where
you build your confidence andyou just push yourself a little
more than the next guy andthat's all it takes you know you
did mention when you youstopped competing.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You just like something's off because I wasn't
the best wrestler.
But I just remember when I wasdone in college, like after
college, I was just like it tookme a few years to like just
stop thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Really.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
It was like because I was like I can't like MMA was
just taken off, but like I knewI wasn't going to go into MMA,
so I'm like how am I going tolike compete again?
I'm like uh, you have someregrets.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
well, it's true as an athlete, especially if you did
it at a collegiate level and avery competitive level.
Yeah, and same thing with oursport you have to almost have
something on the back burnerthat you can transition to or
pour it into because otherwiseyou're just kind of lost.
Um, and it does.
It does happen for a lot ofpeople now.
If you can pour it into acareer or family or some other
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hobby, great.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But at a young age.
It's tough, it's like figuringit out.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, you know yeah, you're like, do I have to have a
plan b?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
nah, but then you realize, oh wait, it would help
yeah, because I, I think Ithought about xfl or mma,
because I played collegefootball and like I got into the
Caribbean med school and I waslike, oh, I guess I'll go there,
which was the wise choice.
But like, yeah, we did.
Like no holds bar fighting atthe bars when, like UFC was just
(22:04):
no way yeah.
He'd sign me up and I'd get it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Oh, how fun we were just talking about this because
we both do jiu-jitsu.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I would love to do jiu-jitsu.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
If I was younger, I'm afraid I would be trying to be
a UFC fighter.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, I'm trying to get my kids.
Like I know, my younger son,who's 18 months, will totally
like flourish and love it,because he already tries to
wrestle my older son oh, that'shilarious more studious guy.
He could care less and I'vetaken him to jujitsu and he
never wants to get on the mat.
But I, you know I and I don'twant to push him too much at the
(22:42):
younger age sure, sure more.
I think once he's more like fiveand older, I think I'll
probably try to get him in yeah,a lot of my teammates have done
it as well.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
You got to try it out ?
I'm like, yeah, but I've takencare of people with broken
fingers and stuff and yeah if Ido that, he's like no, you just
got to go with the right gym.
I'm like I know, but if I justput my hand down wrong and my
finger gets dislocated.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I can't take like six weeks off.
That's what we were talkingabout, because you have to be
smart now, like younger.
Like I said, if I was younger Iwould do it, but now there's a
lot more on the line, a lot moreto lose, a lot of injuries in
the background.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I was doing crossfit when I first started my practice
oh, wow I did it for threeyears in new york and I just
like fell in love with it.
But like I'm ultra competitive,like I had skin peeling off my
hands and it gets super glue andyour arms.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Just look at you like I still got one, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And and like I came here in New York, at least like
I'd go to the 9.00 PM class andlike they'd walk us through
stuff, even though like somedays were more competitive over
here, I'm like trying to like,and the coaches weren't really
like like well-trained, so theyjust like push you, and I know I
can lift a lot of weight,because I've always like had
(23:59):
this thing like lifting heavyweights and like if they push me
, I'm going to do it and I'mlike I'm almost 40, and I'm like
trying to you know, compete,know, compete with these like
kids out of college, and I'mlike you know, I have to take
days back and I'd be like whatam I really doing?
it's a reality yeah, and once mywrist started hurting, I'm like
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, okay, this is like I gottaoperate, and I stopped doing
CrossFit oh gosh, yeah,especially being in the medical
field.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
You see, all that I have never done CrossFit now I
still, to this day, I'm like I'mgoing to do it, but all my
friends coaches that you cannever do it.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
No, you'll tear up your shoulders.
Yeah, they're like you've gottoo much going on already and
you will just go not realize itbecause you have that adrenaline
, that competitive it's like ohyeah, yeah, it's not good for
competitive people oh no,because my wife you know, like I
, I slow down for a little while, but then it's like you know,
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there's that tick that hits youand you're like, you know, like
the crossfit games would comeand I'm like, no, I gotta be
like that guy totally all of asudden, you're back on the wrong
side again, you know.
So, overall, like do you have adaily routine that you do or I?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
do so.
I'm not competing anymore, butI'm still.
It's just a normal lifestyle.
So for me, every morning I getup I have some heart issues, so
it's almost like I equate it tolike you start a lawnmower every
day.
That's me so got to get my heartissues.
So it's almost like I equate itto like you start a lawnmower
every day.
That's me.
So got to get my heart going.
So I just get up, literallyroll downstairs, get on my
treadmill for at least half anhour and, you know, pretty
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active like 3.8.
So walking, getting it going,do some daily meditation, just
getting myself set up for theday, and then I always will work
out about midday or in theafternoon so I get myself going.
Better I have.
I broke my neck about six yearsago so I have some issues, nerve
with my right arm, so it takesabout an hour or so to wake up
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every morning with my right arm.
So I'm I would love to be amorning workout person, just to
get it out of the way and thenstart the day.
Yeah, it will never be mylifestyle now, so I just build
it in, you know, with a lot ofthe way and then start the day.
It will never be my lifestylenow, so I just build it in.
You know, with a lot of thework I have going on, sometimes
it does get pushed aside, butyet I constantly will live in
the philosophy of you don't haveto go to the gym.
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There's so much you can do.
I don't care where you're at,you can think of a workout.
Now if you're a massivebodybuilder and you're, you know
, benching 40 pounds.
That might be tough, but that'sdefinitely not me, it's not 99
of the world so it's just amatter of cut the excuses and do
something.
Whether it's half an hour justgetting my heart moving upper
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body, lower body doesn't matter.
Do a quick circuit.
So it is definitely part of myeveryday lifestyle and I need it
more mentally.
I find when I'm really stressedout I'll look back, I'm like,
oh my gosh, I missed my workoutyesterday and didn't do anything
today.
So it's like, naturally my bodycraves it and that's one of the
best benefits for people whoyou know, we all have been
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active, we're athletes, sotelling us to work out is not
hard.
But there are a lot of peoplethat is just like, yeah, they
would rather get stabbed in theeye and it's like, no, you
really got to work out.
So how do you get them to adoptthis lifestyle before they are
forced to do it?
And that's where it's tough.
And so you know, a lot of timesyou take it back to like old
(27:31):
school PE what did you like todo?
You know, if you have kids, goto the park and run around with
them, create an obstacle course.
So a lot of times it'sovercoming that to get you going
and for me to all get in rutswhere it's like I do not want to
go to the gym.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Personally for me, like I like to do back flips, I
like to do crazy break dancestuff.
Like I don't love to liftanymore.
The gym is boring, yeah.
So I like to find little crazyantics where I'm lifting and
doing plyometric push-ups andthen throwing in some toe
touches, back tuck and someb-boy swipes or something
ridiculous.
Like if you see me at a gym,I'm that weird girl, you're like
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what is wrong with her?
But that's the way it keeps meinterested and it's just finding
like, if you are an activeperson and you're getting bored
with it, yeah, think back like achild.
Yeah, what is it you want to do?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
that seems fun and do it yeah as long as you're
active, so it's a huge part ofmy lifestyle, no question yeah,
one of the things that reallygot me back into and then I, you
know, we do a lot of weightloss and peptides and stuff in
our clinic and one of the thingswas and I got my brothers into
it too which like resistancebands, it was like so simple,
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injury free.
And it was like so simple,injury free.
And it was like 10, 15 minutesevery day, you know.
I bought like two differentsystems and, like when I got
bored with it, I have like atonal at home, so I try to like
mix it up between the differentthings.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And I've always loved lifting.
The only problem is, like theaches and pains of lifting yeah
which that I don't get withresistance bands and like I
think I I got in the best shapewith resistance bands and
building muscle, even being onglp ones and stuff, but like I
always feel like I get bored andI'm like I could do more and
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grow more.
Although the resistance bandsare probably better, I like
start doing tonal and doingother stuff to kind of build it.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I've gone back into the gym like two to three days a
week, usually on the weekendsessions.
I'll go to the gym and do theresistance bands in the morning
during the week, because you gotto sneak it in before like
getting to work for like sevenand I've always done this.
It's I don't know why.
I'm just like yeah, a littlemore weight on, put a little
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more weight on until you're justlike like damn it, like you
know what?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I'll tell you.
What, though, the people do notput as much value in resistance
bands?
as they should and covid was oneof the craziest things because
at that time I was coaching alot of athletes who compete on
stage.
Now everything was shut downbut they still had.
You know, no one knew it wasgoing to be shut down as long as
it did, but I had severalclients in prep for shows it's
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like we can't go to the gym andthen also lifestyle clients.
They couldn't go to the gym getresistance fans.
Yeah, what was interesting ispeople found out they worked way
more efficiently with theresistance bands at home than
going to the gym because itwasn't social time.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And then the athletes , the bodies on stage, because
it was a different type oftraining and it was time under
tension, it was different style.
It was crazy how well thebodies looked with no gym.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
really, you know, I kept on reading about it,
reading about it, but what gotme was like an anesthesiologist
that we like talk about wellnessall the time and she's like.
She's like showing me herthighs and she's like.
She's like I'm 70 and look atthese, this is just x3 bar.
I'm like you're freaking solid.
I'm like it's.
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She's like this is the bestshape I've been in and like and
she does triathlon.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, and she's like you know how cut up she got and
like I think it was on like tonyrobbins book I, I forget what's
it life force, um he on that.
He said his wife got in thebest shape she's ever been on
the resistance band.
So she got him on it and I waslike all right, I got to buy him
.
I bought like the Harambesystem.
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I had like an Amazon thingbefore but those didn't really
work.
But like if you get qualityresistance bands like Harambe
system or X3.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Like, if you get quality resistant the ones that
often smack you in the head X3.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, I was like you know, like I was taking GLP-1s
and people were talking aboutlosing muscle and I have the
InBody which tells you how muchand I was gaining muscle while
losing weight.
So it's and the definition youget, the muscle growth you get,
is incredible and like I don'tthink it's pretty fast.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, well, it's amazing too, because guys are in
my experience are less likelyto be like yeah, I'm not doing
resistance.
Women are more apt to it yeah,because they will do workouts at
home.
Yeah, but guys, it's.
It's sometimes a sellingproposition.
But since it's not normal formost guys, because girls will go
to the gym and do bands, yeah,your guys, bodies respond faster
.
Because it's not normal formost guys, because girls will go
to the gym and do bands, yeah,your guys, bodies respond faster
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because it's something totallyforeign and you don't hurt your
joints like like no shoulderpain like doing the chest stuff
and the you know triceps, likeno shoulder pain at all.
You know, it's like it was justamazing yeah, yeah, a safer way
because, again, at the end ofthe day, we need to be able to
wake up tomorrow and do our job,whatever that is without being
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injured?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, exactly, or just being in pain.
Sure, it's going to be so muchbetter than being in pain.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
And the amount your core builds too.
I was like we're not doing anyab workouts, but your abs get
tighter with just doing the coreexercise.
Yeah, the stabilization.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Which, think about it as you get older.
That's the most important.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Your balance.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You're stepping off a curb.
I mean, you guys see how manypeople fall.
They break their hip.
It's like what?
There's no core strength.
So as we get older it's workingout smarter, not harder.
But you go back to a gym evenafter doing resistance bands,
and I'm sure you guys load upthe bar and you just get after
it.
You're like whoa yeah becauseit's just natural in a gym.
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You go way too heavy, lift waytoo much, yeah, you're back into
square, yeah one thing Istarted doing with the weights.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I won't use a bar, so it's all dumbbell and
everything's separate.
Because I felt like a bar, soit's all dumbbell and everything
separate.
Cause I felt like a bar, likeon a bench press.
That was kind of irritating itand I'm like, ah, but I want to
see how much I can lift.
But I'm like I just switched todumbbells.
I don't do any bar work thatway it gives it the free range
of motion rather than forcingthe shoulder.
Sure, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I don't do any free weights.
I've stopped doing free weights.
I have everything at home.
It's tough for me to go back toit because my shoulders would
totally get ruined.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
And I'm afraid I'm going to tear a pec or something
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
all right, let me stay away from it.
Not worth it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
No, I'm like my tonal and my resistance bands.
They do enough.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Oh heck yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Those are good ones two x3 and tonal heck, yeah,
yeah.
So tonal is cool.
I don't have room for one.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
You always got room for a tonal that's like the
least footprint.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
But it's like if you have room for a laptop.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You have room for a tone the, the.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
what's it?
The wall wall, it's like woodframe.
So it's like, after we put itup, we were both like Sarah
likes it too, Like the tonal.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
I won the competitors for tonal and she's like, oh,
this would be the perfect spotfor it, so we just put that up,
but like I'm putting one in ournew office, so like there you go
.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's getting to work out too.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
No excuse now no, that was like when I heard about
it.
Like it's pines said this iswhere the tonal will go.
I'm like, wait, you're gettingit for the patients, no, for you
guys.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I was like, oh, that's awesome, my office
because we're like we do all thebiohacking stuff too, so it's
like other than the cold and Idon't really I don't know what
are your thoughts on like coldplunge.
Do you do do cold plunges andbiohacking stuff?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So it's funny because obviously there's so much
research and I've been doingcold plunge gosh for years, way
back before they actually hadthese amazing.
I have a cold plunge at myhouse now, but I would go every
day, especially when I was inprep, Because I would be doing
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four hours of routine practicewhere it's like you're doing
these six foot off the groundpush up, flies you land.
and then your body, faceplanning, beating myself up.
So I would walk out of practicelike, just like a truck ran
over me On my way home, I wouldgrab seven bags of like those
huge ice.
McDonald's ice and I would do itin my bathtub at home every
night.
So I've been doing it foreveras a sense of recovery and to
get rid of the inflammation,because I would just start,
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within hours, my joints,everything's swollen.
Yeah, I did it for that purpose.
Now then obviously the studiescome out and they're like don't
do it after you work out, do, dodo it before.
Truthfully, I have found for mepersonally it does.
When I'm doing it regularly, Ican eat a lot more.
It does have an impact, apositive impact, on my
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metabolism.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I've always, and only , done it post-workout, so I've
never been one to do it before,and I don't do it in the morning
because my heart rate and allthat stuff is so low that my
doctor's like don't be an idiot.
So I've only ever done itpost-workout, and, um, I will
tell you, though, that it wasthe one thing that truly
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benefits, cause I take any typeof like supplements for joint
health.
I do body work three times aweek when I'm in prep.
Um, I do all of the you knowwork three times a week when I'm
in prep.
I do all of the you know rehabwith the foam rolling pre post,
but that was the one thing thatI will say.
I would get out of that coldplunge, and I'm like All right,
(37:21):
let's go again.
Yeah, it would single handedlychange the way I felt.
I could wake up less achy, sothat, for me, was a game changer
as an athlete in my prep.
That's the one thing I couldsay 100%, I could not go.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
How long do you sit in there for?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I would do 12 minutes at 35.
Wow, to the point where, likemy ice bath, you got to get the
ice pick and then you get in,like under the Titanic, and it's
here.
I never went under, though, um,and I never would go above my
heart cause I would have someheart issues with it, and so it
would always be like here down.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
But that's pretty cold.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, it is cold, but honestly I loved it because to
me it was like a mentalchallenge.
I would do like mind games,like little riddles, like
whatever it was to distract, butfor me it was a form of like
creating and building yourmental toughness.
How strong of a mindset can Ibuild?
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So you know, when it's freezingoutside, arizona doesn't get
that cold, but to me it'sfreezing.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
It's easier to do a cold plunge in this weather 100
degrees but when it's winter andmine was outside my garage,
that's miserable and sometimesit would take me an hour to like
get back to body temperature.
Mentally, how do you psychyourself up for that?
When your body is beat to hell?
You're tired, you just want togo to sleep, but you're like I
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got to do this and I loved thatchallenge.
So I would never do it above 38.
It had to be 35 to 38 always,and I would never do it less
than 10 minutes because it'slike then why am I tapping out
early?
So to me it was thatconsistency to show up, do the
hard work, challenge yourself.
This is only making your gritsbetter and stronger and your
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resilience.
So I love the mental side of it.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah, I think the mental side of it's the biggest
thing for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I think, it's like you know, especially when we
wake up and talking yourselfinto that it just builds some
resilience with you know, mentaltoughness.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Totally.
I mean there's and people do itfor a variety of reasons.
If it works for you, whateverthat is just for clarity for the
day, for speeding up yourmetabolism to get rid of
inflammation.
Who cares?
If it works great, if you do itat 50 degrees and it's like
that's so cool, who cares?
Yeah, like, just do it ifthere's a payoff.
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I've done cryo.
To me that's the biggest wasteof time oh yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
That's what I've heard from a couple of people.
I just like looked at itbecause, yeah, I looked at the
machine itself.
I'm like it just didn't makeany sense, like the cold plunge,
like totally different feeling.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, yeah, and some people love the cryo machines,
but that's fine, but not thecryo machines, but that's fine,
but not again.
It's kind of for you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
And you kind of look at it.
You know like I compare it tolike, although, like infrared
sauna compared to a regularsauna is a lot different than
the eye cryo thing but it workssimilar where, um, you know
you're not going to get theheart benefits from infrared
because it never gets as hot asthe other normal saunas.
(40:32):
It's going to beam through yourmuscles and help with the
repair and stuff like that, whenthat iCryo kind of works the
same way.
It's going to just, but it'sgoing to be more superficial,
it's not going to affect yourcore body temperature.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
And get all the added benefits of your core body
temperature sure so that that'swhere the difference is, and
people feel miserable for thethree minutes that they do the
freezing and does it help, likeif you have minor injuries?
But you got to be prettyconsistent.
Is it worth it?
I, I think if you're going todo anything, do the cold plunge
over the cryo machines.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
And I think too, anyone that's actually done the
really cold, cold plunge.
They're like yeah, I don't.
It's hard to go back to cryoand feel that same benefit.
So again to me.
Again if it works for people,great.
For me it was like it was awaste of three minutes.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, no, I think like, and those are probably
going to go to the waist.
As you know, more and morepeople just pick up on cold
plunge.
It's so much easier and betterfor you.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I think so too actually.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Did a cold plunge for six minutes.
I don't cold plunge much, but Igot membership at the gym for
it.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Oh, did you yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I'll jump in.
Jumped in like three minutesthe first time and I think it
was set like to 33 to 35, likethe range you were saying and
then the second time I went infor like six minutes, the guy
came in next to me.
He's like how long do youusually do it for?
I'm like it's only my secondtime.
He's like well, how long I'mlike six minutes.
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And he was just like what thehell he's like oh, how long am I
?
Six minutes.
And he was just like what thehell he's like?
I've been doing this for a year.
He's like and these are likesome of the coldest cold plunges
I've been in oh wow, he's likeI didn't know you should go for
more than five minutes.
I was like, honestly, I didn'tlook up the exact numbers.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
And I'm like this can .
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Even three to five minutes is it's the benefits
should be there.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
When I've had people say you do it too long and I'm
like maybe so, but again.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
But you're doing it for you know, like healing your
joints and muscles and stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
So and I got out of there and I was like it was
funny because I wasn't used toit.
But like your whole like skinis numb and waking up, like when
you ice an area, it was likethat.
I'm like oh my God, what is?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
this.
Yeah, I haven't gotten onebecause, like I think my wife
would kill me, I already havetoo many things in our bedroom
in our master bathroom Got likea sauna.
I got all this like gymequipment and like I think she'd
kill me if I had the coldplunge.
I just do it during thewintertime.
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I just jump in my pool when itgets cold.
Yeah for sure, I mean, that'san easy go-to.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Do you know recently.
So I lead this youthentrepreneurship program here in
Arizona and we had an event twoweeks ago and it was 46 young
adults age 18 to 24.
And so we had um optimized comeout and do cold plunges.
Over half of them had neverdone a cold plunge.
So for someone who's never doneit, you know, first of all it's
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like you're kind of put on thespot.
Shockingly everyone did it,even though the ones who were
totally scared it was 35 degreesand they're also younger and
they have to, you know, get intoa swimsuit.
So there's all these variables.
But to your point of why peopledo it, it was that mental
challenge to be like don't giveup and it was so impressive to
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see several of these individualswho were like scared to death
and terrified, but just havingthat support and you're not
gonna die from it but you knowlike.
That's where people like Idon't want to do.
It's uncomfortable yeah, it'slike get comfortable being
uncomfortable.
It's the first step to reallyleveling up, yeah, and so I
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always will encourage people totry it, whether you start at 50
degrees or whatever getting outof it.
I don't know of anyone who'slike that was the best thing
ever, because it's miserable,right, no one likes to be that
cold the first 10 minutes, butbenefit.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, during the day you're like holy shit, I feel a
lot better, like you know, likesuper energy.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
A couple times I've done.
I'm like ready to go, and thatwas at after a work day totally
and it's like that sense ofaccomplishment you just did
something hard yeah so, forpeople who ever hesitate, dare
yourself to do something thatmakes you so uncomfortable,
because the benefit you'll getfrom it yeah
Speaker 1 (44:58):
will be pretty eye-opening and it was awesome
to see all these young adultsbeing like, wow, it's like light
bulb went off I, and I thinkone of the big things to show is
like you know, know how youtalk yourself, because Rogan
always talks about it too.
He's like I have to like get myinner bitch out.
Yeah, I have to talk myself.
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And like people got to realizeit's because you see, all these
people just like jumping in thatcold plunge and it not that
easy.
These, I think, showing thesepeople that like no, it's normal
, everyone's.
Like you could be doing itevery day, but you're still
talking to yourself, yeah,talking yourself into jumping
into that cold water it's stilluncomfortable, like people
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people think, oh, they're usedto it.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Now, although your body gets more and more used to
it, you still feel like bitch,like you and you're like, oh, I
hate this, like the first 10, 15seconds that I get in, I'm like
I hate this, I hate this, butyou still do it.
But you're right, like if youcan show.
It's not an adventure, it's notlike you're getting.
You know this amazing desserthandy too, You're like this
(46:02):
isn't fun, but weigh the prosand cons.
What are the benefits of this?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
the pros and cons, what are the benefits of this?
And then that accomplishmenttakes the whole steps.
Do the do the steps, thepreparation, jumping in and like
the first 10 minutes and thenthe hour after, how you feel,
like recording, like how youfeel and what you're thinking in
your mind, totally how yourmind's running I think, that's
like I've been trying to drop myresting heart rate.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
That one time I went I did what you said, you know,
like go to the sauna, get out ofthe sauna, sauna, go into the
cold plunge, and my restingheart rate that night dropped
like 15 really beats.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, wow, in one night.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
In one night, I'm like it had to be that because
I'm like I'm still trying tobring it regularly below 70, but
it was like 75 to 78 and thatnight was 60, the next day was
like 65 and then it shot back up, you're resting, yeah, do you
ever actually sleep?
Speaker 1 (47:00):
oh yeah, ours runs in the 70s.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
I drink I drink too much caffeine okay, yeah alcohol
messes it up too.
Alcohol just destroys it.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
But our like, even our what's the what is it?
Heart rate HRV is like it's waytoo low.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Is it and?
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I've been trying to figure.
You know, get that normal.
Sometimes when we go onvacation that works, or
epithelon.
If I take epithithalon, likewhen I do my cycle of that,
it'll jump to 50s, 60s.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
But we're always like , I think, just like stress yeah
, if you don't ever have thatdowntime, I used to always be
above 100.
And then, like two years ago, Ihad a medical issue and it
dropped, and I've been above 100once and it's like I will
notice days that I'm sick yeah,which is weird, but I just lay
in bed because I'm sick.
Yeah, my hiv goes up.
(47:54):
I'm like I have to legit notmove.
Yeah, just to get like this isannoying.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, but yeah, it's, it's crazy that's how your body
runs yeah, we're never runninglike mine's like 20, 30s and
then some nights jumps up to 50s.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
But did you have an increase when you took cjc or
any of the growth hormonereleasing peptides?
Not really, it's, it's moreepithelial than anything else.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
and the other thing is like I did the five-day fast
or fast mimicking diet that'slike, but like I drop like a log
at eight o'clock when you dothat and I'm like you know
figuring out what day I could doit.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
So what I'm curious about this?
Did you do just water, did you?
How was your fast?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
So I did the fast mimicking diet.
So there's a package you canget or like there's DYIs that
you could do, but like for usit's like Prolon.
They give you these bars, thesesoups, that and tea that are
like.
This guy did tons of researchand came up with the amount of
(48:55):
like macronutrients and stuffthat you could do that mimic
fasting yeah and you just takethose and you know you get
better sleep and it just resetsyour body and you're supposed to
do it like three to four timesa year, just cycle it every few
months, and some people say, doit once a month.
I'm like I think that'soverdoing it.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, are you familiar with Dr Pompa.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
So he's a friend of mine through Genius Network, and
so I've talked to him now forabout a year.
And I keep trying to get braveenough to do it Because clearly
the benefits I'm like I wantthat reset.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, I don't know how to do the.
I don't know how to do thewater diet, like some people are
doing it for 30 days and that'scrazy yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
I've, only I haven't even done a 24 hour.
Let's be honest, like I eat alot, so I'm like 12 hours to me,
freaks me out.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
But I can't even step into 24.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
But one of these days I'm going to do it.
I just don't know Like I run.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Check out the Prolon.
They have the five-day fastingmimicking diet and you could do
that to start out.
Yeah, just kind of like astepping stone, yeah and you'll
get great sleep and it's good toreset the body and almost work
very similar really okay.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, I almost feel like I need to do a stepping
stone because I'm afraid I mightjust drop dead.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
I'm like I can't imagine 24 hours, but clearly
people do it all the time yeah,I do like a lot of times, like
you know, I'll um, I always fast, I don't eat breakfast.
I'll have like my supplementsin the morning, but um, and
that's like non-caloriesupplements, like vitamins and
(50:40):
stuff, and we'll do a eight, tenhour case or I'll have a few
cases before that and then walkinto that case helping him out
and I won't eat and it's likeyou know I ate at like 6 pm the
night before and it's like five,six o'clock before I get out of
the case and I'll eat.
Then.
You know, like I've done the24-hour thing.
(51:02):
I take glp-1s lower dose, butlike it's still like kind of
suppresses my appetite I don'teven think about it and I like,
sometimes I'm barely evendrinking water.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
So wow, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
That's so interesting to me.
Yeah, but that's.
That's always a true test.
Like everybody is differentyeah you know, just naturally
say whatever some people couldfast and be fine yeah, some
people can't do yeah, my wifecan't fast.
She has blood sugar issues see,that's where I do too.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
And yeah, some people get tachycardic or something
like yeah, their heart rate goesthrough the roof, like with
andy.
Andy was like, yeah, hecouldn't fast because, yeah, his
heart rate goes through theroof.
You feel like he can't do it atall yeah to me.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
As crazy as my brain is, I'm like this is a mental
challenge.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
I'm going to overcome all these.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
But then on the flip side I'm like, don't be an idiot
.
Yeah, so we'll see.
But you're right, maybe I dothe stepping stone first.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Hi, I'm Dr Ruzbitt-Tarabi at Age Proof
Podcast, and this is Dr RobBitt-Tarabi, and we have Whitney
Jones with us today and we'retalking about longevity, her
practices and what she's donethroughout her career.
So what did you do to yourshoulders, like well?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
uh, so I'm a pro athlete, I do fitness
competitions and gosh, trying toremember the first few times
the last one I was on stage atolympia and was doing one of my
tricks a front flip kip yeah andI had kind of tweaked it a few
weeks earlier and justadrenaline pushed off of it yeah
and my shoulder dislocated,ended up tearing the rotator
(01:00):
cuff and then broke mycollarbone just from that
movement Mid flip.
Yeah, I know Wasn't pretty, butthat was the fifth time that
I've injured it.
So it was like hey woman, areyou going to slow down?
I know.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I know from for me my shoulders.
Like you know, I used to benchpress like pretty heavily in
competition when I was youngerin high school and I kind of I
used to bench press like prettyheavily in competition when I
was younger, yeah, in highschool, and I kind of stopped
during college Not stoppedlifting heavy, but I was still
lifting heavy, but stopped doingthe competitions but like my
shoulders are pretty junk.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You still bench over 400 at that point, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But like my shoulders are just junk and like going to
do a breast augmentation youknow, it's like the you're like
forcing your shoulders and, um,you know, I I've thought about
like I got to get stem cellsinto the shoulders.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
At some point.
I don't see why you wouldn'tyeah.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I know it's just to even alleviate or get the better
range of motion.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, and a lot of it's also.
Yeah, I've been trying to getmore into range of motion and
like stretching, like especiallylike I keep on hearing knees
over toes guys.
So I went and bought one ofthose platforms to just like do
Nordic curls and back extensions.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Just try to like my posterior chain's just tight as
hell, because we stand up thereworking on a microscope.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh yeah, I can't even imagine.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, just honestly, if you just stretch your
hamstrings and your pecs, it'lljust overall put you in and
workout glutes.
It'll put you in better posturefor longer portions of the day
yeah.
So that should like minimizelike wear and tear.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Or even go to those places because, like so many
people, like a lot of the day,yeah, yeah, so that should like
minimize like wear and tear oreven go to those places Cause,
like so many people, like a lotof the clients I'd train they're
like I'm not going to stretch,I'm like then go pay like
stretch lab.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
They're dangerous and do it Stretch lab.
Stretch lab, absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I agree, I will only send people who are like not
super tight or not super member.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Tell them not to have them touch the neck, because
the guy was.
They touched the neck.
The guy cranked on my neck andI'm like you're not even a chiro
, oh wow, no, I didn't know thisand I'm like I already have
like herniated C5-6.
I'm like you got to stop doingwhat you're doing, and then they
kept on texting me to go back.
I'm like no, to go back.
(03:28):
I'm like no, I'm like I.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I came here to stretch out my legs and you're
cranking on my neck.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'm like, because they're all I'm like.
You're not even chiropractor.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
These kids are like yeah they're kids, they're
basically they're like oh yeah,they've never.
I went twice just to test itout, but it was all like back
lower body.
That's what I was expecting.
I was like my lower body.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I just need my lower body stretched out and like they
start, they crank my neck sideand I'm like what?
And my nurse practitioner?
She actually dissected hercarotid and she continues to
have issues from a chiropractoroh like wow, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Aggressive adjustments now I'm not a fan of
that, so I'm biased, but like,if you're going to go, just go
to a manual therapy.
Certified physical therapist.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Someone who knows what they're doing with anything
right Like make sure whoeveryou're paying services for that
they know what the hell you'redoing.
Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I did it to just like check it out.
I'm like oh if it's a place Ican go and they just stretch out
my legs for me and get me alittle more range of motion.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Then I was like, no, this is fucking oh, that's scary
yeah my wife's a therapist, soyeah, no, she does great job
yeah, the funny part is I wasjust like, because they do
insurance and they do, in scotts, there's a cash pay patient
clientele and I kept asking themfor our patients, like cosmetic
(04:50):
patients that don't want to gothrough insurance.
And when she told me their cashpay price it was like cheaper
than massage therapy.
You're kidding?
No, I'm not.
I personally I'm in medicine.
I always thought like, oh,that'll cost me that much.
So even if you do haveinsurance and some people's
co-pays are higher than justpaying cash out of pocket- well,
(05:13):
massage therapy, you're talkingabout massages.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Uh, going to like phoenician, or uh?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
well, it's definitely cheaper than that, but it's.
Yeah, I would say it's close tolike.
But it's very similar to likegoing yeah, a median, not like
because you pay for theamenities, the other places
you're paying for, like you know, their hot tubs sure all the
different amenities yeah but itwas.
I was just like, oh wow, Ididn't, I didn't realize that.
(05:40):
Yeah, I'm sending morecosmetics patients just over
there totally I know how wellshe's trained and how much
schooling she's gone through andanytime we get like aches or
something, yeah you're like help?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
yeah, I mean I got.
Do I still have the?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
bruising from the cuffs.
Yeah, cupping and needling yeahcupping, dry, needling, kinesio
tape, and then the manualtherapy is just fantastic.
But you also have to be adamantabout doing stuff yourself.
So if you're not again,stretches exercises, because
some people like, oh, I justwant to get massages like that,
(06:17):
that'll help and certain manualwill help.
But if you're, if you're notadamant about your how you, it's
going to be hard to get betterFor sure.
Especially, I mean, who do youtrain?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Are you training like athletes or Both I train pro
athletes who compete in theworld of bodybuilding.
But I don't train any likebodybuilders, so my specialty
when it comes to athletes isfemales, specifically in the
fitness division.
So that's the division where wedo the flips and the jumps and
the choreograph routines orbikini athletes, figure athletes
(06:51):
, so not the overly muscular,basically anyone that gets on
stage and has to flex.
That's not my forte, it's.
It's all the divisions lowerwhere it's kind of like a beauty
pageant with muscles, or theathletic component, which is the
fitness division.
But then I also train everydaylifestyle clients as well as
specialty and pre and postnatal.
(07:11):
That was always my favorite.
I'm a mom, so the biggest thingafter having kids was like oh
my God, am I going to be able toget my body back?
And clearly there's alwayscosmetic surgery, but you've got
to do your part first.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And then, if you can't, that's where you know.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, my wife's been looking for someone, so that's
perfect.
Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's just like those women need that boost of
confidence.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And you're so tired and you're just.
You look in the mirror andyou're just like what?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
So just having that was always my favorite.
To Like what?
Yeah, so just having that wasalways my favorite.
To make time for yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And that's yeah, that's the biggest thing.
Like my wife tries to doeverything for everyone else and
then she's like her time's likethe last thing and I'm like no,
you got to make your body yourpriority and she kind of looks
down on me for actually doingthe total.
I'm like it's me first, like myI.
(08:06):
You know we have people to takecare of our kids.
I'm gonna go and do my workouts.
make sure I'm ready to leave thehouse when I leave the house
and then go to work and thencome, come back and if I need to
get another workout in orwhatever, but spend some time
with the kids and the way I'vestarted to do it is take the
kids into the room and work outwith them.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah totally.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
They work out with me .
Speaker 1 (08:28):
So, like to help the situation but, like you know,
it's like you've got to just putyourself first and just take
care of it, otherwise it getsout of hand.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I agree, like I was a single mom.
My boys were three and fivewhen I suddenly became a single
mom and it was like, oh my gosh,and I owned businesses and I'm
chasing world championshiptitles and it's like, how do you
prioritize?
That right but I realize, if Idon't take care of myself first,
especially mentally, you've gotto have that yeah that time to
(08:59):
check out and do something foryou.
Yeah, then you can take on theworld and you can handle it.
Otherwise it's like thatresentment and you're just like
everything feels so heavy.
And even if it's 30 minutes aday, yeah, it does wonders.
It does it does.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And like I, I noticed that like I went to ireland and
I had tough time with like jetlag and getting back and I had
before I went there I worked outpretty hard and then like all
of a sudden I'm like you knowwas so busy.
As soon as I came back I waslike no, I gotta like get in
there and just take the time anddo it like and you know,
(09:36):
there's just like I got a smallamount of time to get things
done because the kids are gonnago to sleep or the kids are
gonna wake up, so you gotta justget things done, don't you just
going to go to sleep, or thekids are going to wake up, so
you got to just get things done.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Don't you just wish we could have clones already?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I know.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
One day, at least one , to sleep the humanoid robots
are coming.
Exactly Right.
We got to be careful, he can.
He can lift the weights for meyeah, totally there you go no.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Oh, one thing I was going to ask.
A lot of people underestimatehow much that prenatal period is
important with postnatal care.
So I'm sure you get people bothways, like some that are
planning to set themselves up sothat after the child they're
(10:20):
quick to bounce back and jumpback into it, because if you
have the habits built up already, and you just take like I don't
know how long the break peopletake.
I know my wife was working outpretty aggressively leading up
to childbirth and I think shejust took like three, four weeks
off, yeah, um, and then likeshe bounced back very fast.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I think it's important the prenatal stuff
although my wife didn't get intoit.
But I think she went throughIVF and I think she got pretty
big right away.
She's got a small torso and Ithink, too many hormones and
(11:02):
stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, yeah, that's a lot that process.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
It's also easy for us to sit here and talk about it
and I think like too manyhormones and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, that process.
It's also easy for us to sithere and talk about it.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But, like, like overall I think being pregnant
and getting to the gym it helpswith like I forget what it was,
like I was actually thinkingabout it and, like you know,
like having her like work outand stuff, especially like going
if she wants to go through itagain, you know, just so she can
keep her musculature and stuff,so she doesn't lose it.
(11:32):
And then, like you know,recovery and stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I think would be a lot better Having a good
foundation is crucial, even justespecially for women who are
going through fertilitytreatments, because mentally the
oh, it's horrible go throughand I was one of those as well
with my kids and it's like thisconstant emotional roller
coaster.
It's great to have that to kindof pour into as you're in the
(11:56):
process yeah now not goingextreme, because that's where
some people are like I'mplanning to have a baby, I need
to get fit now because I'm goingto gain weight not the right
time or I just found out I'mpregnant.
I can't get fat again.
Not the right time so buthaving that good baseline of you
know at least light lifting umsome type of cardio or activity
(12:16):
that you're doing and buildingthat strong abdominal, that core
, that abdominal wall is goingto help, labor delivery,
delivery, all of that.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yep, you'll push that kid right through the room.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, just boom, boom rocket.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So have you always been into fitness, or was this,
like you know, when did you Notreally?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I was always an athlete growing up.
I had two older brothers, butyou know, back then it was you
played any sport that yourparents would let you hear.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I grew up in Arizona YMCA.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So it was like you're in a 12-week program, the next
one.
So soccer and I tried to playfootball Like I did anything,
again being the little sisterand the only girl I just wanted
to be like them.
And then you know, growing up I, I did sports through high
school, college.
I ended up um on the dance tierfor su and um loved that.
(13:11):
But then after that it was like, okay, now it's time to get in
the real world yeah and so Istarted career, and that's where
your fitness just kind ofplummets yeah
and I loved I'm ultracompetitive.
So I lost that element andended up going into signing up
for endurance events, you know,triathlons, sprint triathlons,
marathons, loved that.
(13:32):
But I'm like God, I thoughtpeople got fit with this and
that was not the case.
So then I just started goingback to the gym and lifting
weights.
But I was one of those womenwho thought I don't want to be
bulky and get so big with allthese muscles.
Obviously, total misconception,I didn't know.
But I saw these women gettingfit in the gym and you know just
(13:55):
kind of slowly getting in shape, tight-toned bodies, like what
are they doing?
And actually ended up gettinginto this sport that I ended up,
you know, kind of flourishingin and building a career out of,
out of a dare.
I just inquired like, why arethey so fit?
And they're like well, youcouldn't do that.
Yeah, I could.
And from that moment on it waslike well, then, do a
(14:18):
competition.
I'm like done.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I'm like what did I just sign up for, you know?
But that's what?
Again, I think it was thatcompetitive drive.
I had no desire.
I was like I got to get onstage in a bikini and let people
judge me.
I don't care what they think,you know.
So it was totally this weirdmisconception.
But if I say I'm going to dosomething, I'm going to do it,
and so it's like you just findthat way, block that fear.
(14:42):
I'm like I got to figure outhow to walk in a bikini and not
act like I am scared to death.
I need to get my body in shape.
And then I actually did it, butthen found out there was this
division where there was theathletic component.
I have no formal gymnasticstraining, nothing.
But I was like that sounds likeit's going to be really hard.
(15:04):
So that's totally my thing.
So that's how I got into it andit was just honestly.
I had no desire to be pro, hadnever heard of the Olympia at
that time and was like I justlike having this, to have a
focus and a goal.
Yeah, and then had some lifethings happen, with my mom
passing away with cancer andthen a divorce and it was like I
(15:27):
need something positive to pourmy life into because, being a
mom with two young boys, if Ilet life's catastrophes define
me, I'm going to be one of thesetrain wrecks that you see on TV
.
And I refuse to be that.
So I need something positive,like I'm not going to get into
drugs, I'm not going to be oneof these train wrecks that you
see on TV and I refuse to bethat.
So I need something positive,like I'm not going to get into
(15:48):
drugs, I'm not going to startdrinking, like I got to pour it
into something.
So it all kind of worked out,timing wise to say you know what
, why don't I give this sport alittle more effort and set some
goals?
And it was like, okay, I'mgoing to turn pro, I'm going to
get my pro card, and then let'sjust see where it goes.
And it was.
It was a positive thing that, asan athlete, there's so many
(16:11):
business applications for methat I learned in how you are as
an athlete, with you know doingthings that are difficult,
taking on massive risks, havingconfidence when you show up on
stage, just like you do in aboardroom, having to almost fake
it till you make it in instance.
There's so many applications asa top athlete that helped me
(16:32):
build all my differentbusinesses.
And so then it's like, okay,this is great, because what I'm
learning here as an athletehelps business and what I'm
learning as business helps me asan athlete.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
And I just kept going and for 15 years this was my
thing of building businesses andbeing an athlete.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah.
And we, we always take it backto our wrestling days because,
like the days in the trenches,with wrestling it's like nothing
else.
You're like in med school, likeyou know you could quit.
Or you're like in med school,like you know you could quit.
Or you're like no, six minuteson the mat I got six minutes and
just do it yes and like you're,like you know one more round.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Much you put in, the main thing from wrestling I took
away is like whether I did goodor bad, or just like I knew
what I put in and that's what Igot out.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
So and that's what the same thing with our sport
Like.
It's a subjective sport.
I go do the most bad-assroutine and the judges would be
like, nah, not very impressed,yeah.
But I knew at the end of theday I got to judge.
So every competition before I Iwalked up those platform steps,
before I ever hit the stage Idid my own judgment of did I win
(17:43):
or lose?
Yeah, before I ever hit thestage I did my own judgment of
did I win or lose?
Yeah, and I didn't always win,and there were some times I had
to step out on that stage goingI didn't give it everything.
I didn't practice, I cheated onmy diet, I gave up on certain
routine practice, whatever itwas it's on us yeah.
And again, there's times I gaveit my all and I didn't win.
But I was was like these judgesaren't going to define my value
(18:06):
.
I know I won, yeah, and that'swhat it comes down to.
Discipline it comes down tohard work, showing up and doing
what.
What you need to do when noone's watching?
Yeah, and that's what helps usas human beings, um, in our line
of work, whatever that is isjust doing the hard stuff when
there's no prize, yeah, at theend of the day, day in and day
out.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, and like vision quests I always talk about our
vision quests that you know ourcoach would lay us down and just
walk you through your moves towin the state championships, and
like you'd go through it overand over again and like surgery
is kind of very similar.
You know, you're like you kindof pre-plan everything, look at
(18:46):
the pictures the night before,the day before and go through
all your steps, you know.
And I kind of got into plastics, kind of the same reason you
got into the fitness thing.
People told me I couldn't doplastic surgery.
So I was like, oh all right.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You're like really Try me.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, so I just put my head down and continued going
and it was like every step ofthe way everyone told me I
couldn't do it, so, like.
But now you know, I've been inpractice for 10 years, so and
people chuckle in like third andfourth year like okay, right
out of the caribbean med school.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
You're gonna go become a plastic surgeon I still
remember that I'm like we'llsee.
I know, I know I got a shot atit and I know you don't, because
it lights a fire, like whenthere's that doubt.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
If you have that discipline and the your
self-confidence, all you need isa little bit of doubt to be
like, oh, it's on yeah, it's onyeah, because even like my, my
last year of wrestling, like I'dgo into tournaments, like and
it was bad because I'd I'd likedrink and be hung over.
Um, I don't drink anymore rightnow, but like I'd be hung over
(19:53):
and I'd go and like one of thesebig tournaments no way, and I
used to be like 200 pounds,wrestling heavyweight, like
people up to 275.
They'd be like these muscular,huge guys and I'd be like I'd go
on there and I didn't give ashit.
And that's like I think beinghung over kind of gave me this
like mind of like not evencaring, yeah, like, like, oh,
(20:17):
they're, they're some top guy inthe region or whatever, and I'd
go and like be like all right,oh, I'd win, and it's like you
know.
It's like now, looking back atit, you know that's like where
you build your confidence andyou just push yourself a little
more than the next guy andthat's all it takes you know you
did mention when you youstopped competing.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You just like something's off because I wasn't
the best wrestler.
But I just remember when I wasdone in college, like after
college, I was just like it tookme a few years to like just
stop thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Really.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
It was like because I was like I can't like MMA was
just taken off, but like I knewI wasn't going to go into MMA,
so I'm like how am I going tolike compete again?
I'm like uh, you have someregrets.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
well, it's true as an athlete, especially if you did
it at a collegiate level and avery competitive level.
Yeah, and same thing with oursport you have to almost have
something on the back burnerthat you can transition to or
pour it into because otherwiseyou're just kind of lost.
Um, and it does.
It does happen for a lot ofpeople now.
If you can pour it into acareer or family or some other
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hobby, great.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But at a young age.
It's tough, it's like figuringit out.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, you know yeah, you're like, do I have to have a
plan b?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
nah, but then you realize, oh wait, it would help
yeah, because I, I think Ithought about xfl or mma,
because I played collegefootball and like I got into the
Caribbean med school and I waslike, oh, I guess I'll go there,
which was the wise choice.
But like, yeah, we did.
Like no holds bar fighting atthe bars when, like UFC was just
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no way yeah.
He'd sign me up and I'd get it.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Oh, how fun we were just talking about this because
we both do jiu-jitsu.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I would love to do jiu-jitsu.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
If I was younger, I'm afraid I would be trying to be
a UFC fighter.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, I'm trying to get my kids.
Like I know, my younger son,who's 18 months, will totally
like flourish and love it,because he already tries to
wrestle my older son oh, that'shilarious more studious guy.
He could care less and I'vetaken him to jujitsu and he
never wants to get on the mat.
But I, you know I and I don'twant to push him too much at the
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younger age sure, sure more.
I think once he's more like fiveand older, I think I'll
probably try to get him in yeah,a lot of my teammates have done
it as well.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
You got to try it out ?
I'm like, yeah, but I've takencare of people with broken
fingers and stuff and yeah if Ido that, he's like no, you just
got to go with the right gym.
I'm like I know, but if I justput my hand down wrong and my
finger gets dislocated.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I can't take like six weeks off.
That's what we were talkingabout, because you have to be
smart now, like younger.
Like I said, if I was younger Iwould do it, but now there's a
lot more on the line, a lot moreto lose, a lot of injuries in
the background.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I was doing crossfit when I first started my practice
oh, wow I did it for threeyears in new york and I just
like fell in love with it.
But like I'm ultra competitive,like I had skin peeling off my
hands and it gets super glue andyour arms.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Just look at you like I still got one, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And and like I came here in New York, at least like
I'd go to the 9.00 PM class andlike they'd walk us through
stuff, even though like somedays were more competitive over
here, I'm like trying to like,and the coaches weren't really
like like well-trained, so theyjust like push you, and I know I
can lift a lot of weight,because I've always like had
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this thing like lifting heavyweights and like if they push me
, I'm going to do it and I'mlike I'm almost 40, and I'm like
trying to you know, compete,know, compete with these like
kids out of college, and I'mlike you know, I have to take
days back and I'd be like whatam I really doing?
it's a reality yeah, and once mywrist started hurting, I'm like
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, okay, this is like I gottaoperate, and I stopped doing
CrossFit oh gosh, yeah,especially being in the medical
field.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
You see, all that I have never done CrossFit now I
still, to this day, I'm like I'mgoing to do it, but all my
friends coaches that you cannever do it.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
No, you'll tear up your shoulders.
Yeah, they're like you've gottoo much going on already and
you will just go not realize itbecause you have that adrenaline
, that competitive it's like ohyeah, yeah, it's not good for
competitive people oh no,because my wife you know, like I
, I slow down for a little while, but then it's like you know,
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there's that tick that hits youand you're like, you know, like
the crossfit games would comeand I'm like, no, I gotta be
like that guy totally all of asudden, you're back on the wrong
side again, you know.
So, overall, like do you have adaily routine that you do or I?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
do so.
I'm not competing anymore, butI'm still.
It's just a normal lifestyle.
So for me, every morning I getup I have some heart issues, so
it's almost like I equate it tolike you start a lawnmower every
day.
That's me so got to get my heartissues.
So it's almost like I equate itto like you start a lawnmower
every day.
That's me.
So got to get my heart going.
So I just get up, literallyroll downstairs, get on my
treadmill for at least half anhour and, you know, pretty
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active like 3.8.
So walking, getting it going,do some daily meditation, just
getting myself set up for theday, and then I always will work
out about midday or in theafternoon so I get myself going.
Better I have.
I broke my neck about six yearsago so I have some issues, nerve
with my right arm, so it takesabout an hour or so to wake up
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every morning with my right arm.
So I'm I would love to be amorning workout person, just to
get it out of the way and thenstart the day.
Yeah, it will never be mylifestyle now, so I just build
it in, you know, with a lot ofthe way and then start the day.
It will never be my lifestylenow, so I just build it in.
You know, with a lot of thework I have going on, sometimes
it does get pushed aside, butyet I constantly will live in
the philosophy of you don't haveto go to the gym.
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There's so much you can do.
I don't care where you're at,you can think of a workout.
Now if you're a massivebodybuilder and you're, you know
, benching 40 pounds.
That might be tough, but that'sdefinitely not me, it's not 99
of the world so it's just amatter of cut the excuses and do
something.
Whether it's half an hour justgetting my heart moving upper
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body, lower body doesn't matter.
Do a quick circuit.
So it is definitely part of myeveryday lifestyle and I need it
more mentally.
I find when I'm really stressedout I'll look back, I'm like,
oh my gosh, I missed my workoutyesterday and didn't do anything
today.
So it's like, naturally my bodycraves it and that's one of the
best benefits for people whoyou know, we all have been
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active, we're athletes, sotelling us to work out is not
hard.
But there are a lot of peoplethat is just like, yeah, they
would rather get stabbed in theeye and it's like, no, you
really got to work out.
So how do you get them to adoptthis lifestyle before they are
forced to do it?
And that's where it's tough.
And so you know, a lot of timesyou take it back to like old
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school PE what did you like todo?
You know, if you have kids, goto the park and run around with
them, create an obstacle course.
So a lot of times it'sovercoming that to get you going
and for me to all get in rutswhere it's like I do not want to
go to the gym.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Personally for me, like I like to do back flips, I
like to do crazy break dancestuff.
Like I don't love to liftanymore.
The gym is boring, yeah.
So I like to find little crazyantics where I'm lifting and
doing plyometric push-ups andthen throwing in some toe
touches, back tuck and someb-boy swipes or something
ridiculous.
Like if you see me at a gym,I'm that weird girl, you're like
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what is wrong with her?
But that's the way it keeps meinterested and it's just finding
like, if you are an activeperson and you're getting bored
with it, yeah, think back like achild.
Yeah, what is it you want to do?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
that seems fun and do it yeah as long as you're
active, so it's a huge part ofmy lifestyle, no question yeah,
one of the things that reallygot me back into and then I, you
know, we do a lot of weightloss and peptides and stuff in
our clinic and one of the thingswas and I got my brothers into
it too which like resistancebands, it was like so simple,
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injury free.
And it was like so simple,injury free.
And it was like 10, 15 minutesevery day, you know.
I bought like two differentsystems and, like when I got
bored with it, I have like atonal at home, so I try to like
mix it up between the differentthings.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And I've always loved lifting.
The only problem is, like theaches and pains of lifting yeah
which that I don't get withresistance bands and like I
think I I got in the best shapewith resistance bands and
building muscle, even being onglp ones and stuff, but like I
always feel like I get bored andI'm like I could do more and
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grow more.
Although the resistance bandsare probably better, I like
start doing tonal and doingother stuff to kind of build it.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I've gone back into the gym like two to three days a
week, usually on the weekendsessions.
I'll go to the gym and do theresistance bands in the morning
during the week, because you gotto sneak it in before like
getting to work for like sevenand I've always done this.
It's I don't know why.
I'm just like yeah, a littlemore weight on, put a little
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more weight on until you're justlike like damn it, like you
know what?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I'll tell you.
What, though, the people do notput as much value in resistance
bands?
as they should and covid was oneof the craziest things because
at that time I was coaching alot of athletes who compete on
stage.
Now everything was shut downbut they still had.
You know, no one knew it wasgoing to be shut down as long as
it did, but I had severalclients in prep for shows it's
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like we can't go to the gym andthen also lifestyle clients.
They couldn't go to the gym getresistance fans.
Yeah, what was interesting ispeople found out they worked way
more efficiently with theresistance bands at home than
going to the gym because itwasn't social time.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And then the athletes , the bodies on stage, because
it was a different type oftraining and it was time under
tension, it was different style.
It was crazy how well thebodies looked with no gym.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
really, you know, I kept on reading about it,
reading about it, but what gotme was like an anesthesiologist
that we like talk about wellnessall the time and she's like.
She's like showing me herthighs and she's like.
She's like I'm 70 and look atthese, this is just x3 bar.
I'm like you're freaking solid.
I'm like it's.
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She's like this is the bestshape I've been in and like and
she does triathlon.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, and she's like you know how cut up she got and
like I think it was on like tonyrobbins book I, I forget what's
it life force, um he on that.
He said his wife got in thebest shape she's ever been on
the resistance band.
So she got him on it and I waslike all right, I got to buy him
.
I bought like the Harambesystem.
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I had like an Amazon thingbefore but those didn't really
work.
But like if you get qualityresistance bands like Harambe
system or X3.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Like, if you get quality resistant the ones that
often smack you in the head X3.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, I was like you know, like I was taking GLP-1s
and people were talking aboutlosing muscle and I have the
InBody which tells you how muchand I was gaining muscle while
losing weight.
So it's and the definition youget, the muscle growth you get,
is incredible and like I don'tthink it's pretty fast.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, well, it's amazing too, because guys are in
my experience are less likelyto be like yeah, I'm not doing
resistance.
Women are more apt to it yeah,because they will do workouts at
home.
Yeah, but guys, it's.
It's sometimes a sellingproposition.
But since it's not normal formost guys, because girls will go
to the gym and do bands, yeah,your guys, bodies respond faster
.
Because it's not normal formost guys, because girls will go
to the gym and do bands, yeah,your guys, bodies respond faster
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because it's something totallyforeign and you don't hurt your
joints like like no shoulderpain like doing the chest stuff
and the you know triceps, likeno shoulder pain at all.
You know, it's like it was justamazing yeah, yeah, a safer way
because, again, at the end ofthe day, we need to be able to
wake up tomorrow and do our job,whatever that is without being
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injured?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, exactly, or just being in pain.
Sure, it's going to be so muchbetter than being in pain.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
And the amount your core builds too.
I was like we're not doing anyab workouts, but your abs get
tighter with just doing the coreexercise.
Yeah, the stabilization.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Which, think about it as you get older.
That's the most important.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Your balance.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You're stepping off a curb.
I mean, you guys see how manypeople fall.
They break their hip.
It's like what?
There's no core strength.
So as we get older it's workingout smarter, not harder.
But you go back to a gym evenafter doing resistance bands,
and I'm sure you guys load upthe bar and you just get after
it.
You're like whoa yeah becauseit's just natural in a gym.
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You go way too heavy, lift waytoo much, yeah, you're back into
square, yeah one thing Istarted doing with the weights.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I won't use a bar, so it's all dumbbell and
everything's separate.
Because I felt like a bar, soit's all dumbbell and everything
separate.
Cause I felt like a bar, likeon a bench press.
That was kind of irritating itand I'm like, ah, but I want to
see how much I can lift.
But I'm like I just switched todumbbells.
I don't do any bar work thatway it gives it the free range
of motion rather than forcingthe shoulder.
Sure, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I don't do any free weights.
I've stopped doing free weights.
I have everything at home.
It's tough for me to go back toit because my shoulders would
totally get ruined.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
And I'm afraid I'm going to tear a pec or something
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
all right, let me stay away from it.
Not worth it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
No, I'm like my tonal and my resistance bands.
They do enough.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Oh heck yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Those are good ones two x3 and tonal heck, yeah,
yeah.
So tonal is cool.
I don't have room for one.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
You always got room for a tonal that's like the
least footprint.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
But it's like if you have room for a laptop.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You have room for a tone the, the.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
what's it?
The wall wall, it's like woodframe.
So it's like, after we put itup, we were both like Sarah
likes it too, Like the tonal.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
I won the competitors for tonal and she's like, oh,
this would be the perfect spotfor it, so we just put that up,
but like I'm putting one in ournew office, so like there you go
.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's getting to work out too.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
No excuse now no, that was like when I heard about
it.
Like it's pines said this iswhere the tonal will go.
I'm like, wait, you're gettingit for the patients, no, for you
guys.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I was like, oh, that's awesome, my office
because we're like we do all thebiohacking stuff too, so it's
like other than the cold and Idon't really I don't know what
are your thoughts on like coldplunge.
Do you do do cold plunges andbiohacking stuff?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So it's funny because obviously there's so much
research and I've been doingcold plunge gosh for years, way
back before they actually hadthese amazing.
I have a cold plunge at myhouse now, but I would go every
day, especially when I was inprep, Because I would be doing
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four hours of routine practicewhere it's like you're doing
these six foot off the groundpush up, flies you land.
and then your body, faceplanning, beating myself up.
So I would walk out of practicelike, just like a truck ran
over me On my way home, I wouldgrab seven bags of like those
huge ice.
McDonald's ice and I would do itin my bathtub at home every
night.
So I've been doing it foreveras a sense of recovery and to
get rid of the inflammation,because I would just start,
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within hours, my joints,everything's swollen.
Yeah, I did it for that purpose.
Now then obviously the studiescome out and they're like don't
do it after you work out, do, dodo it before.
Truthfully, I have found for mepersonally it does.
When I'm doing it regularly, Ican eat a lot more.
It does have an impact, apositive impact, on my
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metabolism.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I've always, and only , done it post-workout, so I've
never been one to do it before,and I don't do it in the morning
because my heart rate and allthat stuff is so low that my
doctor's like don't be an idiot.
So I've only ever done itpost-workout, and, um, I will
tell you, though, that it wasthe one thing that truly
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benefits, cause I take any typeof like supplements for joint
health.
I do body work three times aweek when I'm in prep.
Um, I do all of the you knowwork three times a week when I'm
in prep.
I do all of the you know rehabwith the foam rolling pre post,
but that was the one thing thatI will say.
I would get out of that coldplunge, and I'm like All right,
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let's go again.
Yeah, it would single handedlychange the way I felt.
I could wake up less achy, sothat, for me, was a game changer
as an athlete in my prep.
That's the one thing I couldsay 100%, I could not go.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
How long do you sit in there for?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I would do 12 minutes at 35.
Wow, to the point where, likemy ice bath, you got to get the
ice pick and then you get in,like under the Titanic, and it's
here.
I never went under, though, um,and I never would go above my
heart cause I would have someheart issues with it, and so it
would always be like here down.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
But that's pretty cold.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, it is cold, but honestly I loved it because to
me it was like a mentalchallenge.
I would do like mind games,like little riddles, like
whatever it was to distract, butfor me it was a form of like
creating and building yourmental toughness.
How strong of a mindset can Ibuild?
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So you know, when it's freezingoutside, arizona doesn't get
that cold, but to me it'sfreezing.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
It's easier to do a cold plunge in this weather 100
degrees but when it's winter andmine was outside my garage,
that's miserable and sometimesit would take me an hour to like
get back to body temperature.
Mentally, how do you psychyourself up for that?
When your body is beat to hell?
You're tired, you just want togo to sleep, but you're like I
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got to do this and I loved thatchallenge.
So I would never do it above 38.
It had to be 35 to 38 always,and I would never do it less
than 10 minutes because it'slike then why am I tapping out
early?
So to me it was thatconsistency to show up, do the
hard work, challenge yourself.
This is only making your gritsbetter and stronger and your
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resilience.
So I love the mental side of it.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah, I think the mental side of it's the biggest
thing for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I think, it's like you know, especially when we
wake up and talking yourselfinto that it just builds some
resilience with you know, mentaltoughness.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Totally.
I mean there's and people do itfor a variety of reasons.
If it works for you, whateverthat is just for clarity for the
day, for speeding up yourmetabolism to get rid of
inflammation.
Who cares?
If it works great, if you do itat 50 degrees and it's like
that's so cool, who cares?
Yeah, like, just do it ifthere's a payoff.
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I've done cryo.
To me that's the biggest wasteof time oh yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
That's what I've heard from a couple of people.
I just like looked at itbecause, yeah, I looked at the
machine itself.
I'm like it just didn't makeany sense, like the cold plunge,
like totally different feeling.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah, yeah, and some people love the cryo machines,
but that's fine, but not thecryo machines, but that's fine,
but not again.
It's kind of for you, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
And you kind of look at it.
You know like I compare it tolike, although, like infrared
sauna compared to a regularsauna is a lot different than
the eye cryo thing but it workssimilar where, um, you know
you're not going to get theheart benefits from infrared
because it never gets as hot asthe other normal saunas.
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It's going to beam through yourmuscles and help with the
repair and stuff like that, whenthat iCryo kind of works the
same way.
It's going to just, but it'sgoing to be more superficial,
it's not going to affect yourcore body temperature.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
And get all the added benefits of your core body
temperature sure so that that'swhere the difference is, and
people feel miserable for thethree minutes that they do the
freezing and does it help, likeif you have minor injuries?
But you got to be prettyconsistent.
Is it worth it?
I, I think if you're going todo anything, do the cold plunge
over the cryo machines.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
And I think too, anyone that's actually done the
really cold, cold plunge.
They're like yeah, I don't.
It's hard to go back to cryoand feel that same benefit.
So again to me.
Again if it works for people,great.
For me it was like it was awaste of three minutes.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, no, I think like, and those are probably
going to go to the waist.
As you know, more and morepeople just pick up on cold
plunge.
It's so much easier and betterfor you.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
I think so too actually.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Did a cold plunge for six minutes.
I don't cold plunge much, but Igot membership at the gym for
it.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Oh, did you yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
I'll jump in.
Jumped in like three minutesthe first time and I think it
was set like to 33 to 35, likethe range you were saying and
then the second time I went infor like six minutes, the guy
came in next to me.
He's like how long do youusually do it for?
I'm like it's only my secondtime.
He's like well, how long I'mlike six minutes.
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And he was just like what thehell he's like oh, how long am I
?
Six minutes.
And he was just like what thehell he's like?
I've been doing this for a year.
He's like and these are likesome of the coldest cold plunges
I've been in oh wow, he's likeI didn't know you should go for
more than five minutes.
I was like, honestly, I didn'tlook up the exact numbers.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
And I'm like this can .
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Even three to five minutes is it's the benefits
should be there.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
When I've had people say you do it too long and I'm
like maybe so, but again.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
But you're doing it for you know, like healing your
joints and muscles and stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
So and I got out of there and I was like it was
funny because I wasn't used toit.
But like your whole like skinis numb and waking up, like when
you ice an area, it was likethat.
I'm like oh my God, what is?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
this.
Yeah, I haven't gotten onebecause, like I think my wife
would kill me, I already havetoo many things in our bedroom
in our master bathroom Got likea sauna.
I got all this like gymequipment and like I think she'd
kill me if I had the coldplunge.
I just do it during thewintertime.
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I just jump in my pool when itgets cold.
Yeah for sure, I mean, that'san easy go-to.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Do you know recently.
So I lead this youthentrepreneurship program here in
Arizona and we had an event twoweeks ago and it was 46 young
adults age 18 to 24.
And so we had um optimized comeout and do cold plunges.
Over half of them had neverdone a cold plunge.
So for someone who's never doneit, you know, first of all it's
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like you're kind of put on thespot.
Shockingly everyone did it,even though the ones who were
totally scared it was 35 degreesand they're also younger and
they have to, you know, get intoa swimsuit.
So there's all these variables.
But to your point of why peopledo it, it was that mental
challenge to be like don't giveup and it was so impressive to
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see several of these individualswho were like scared to death
and terrified, but just havingthat support and you're not
gonna die from it but you knowlike.
That's where people like Idon't want to do.
It's uncomfortable yeah, it'slike get comfortable being
uncomfortable.
It's the first step to reallyleveling up, yeah, and so I
(44:20):
always will encourage people totry it, whether you start at 50
degrees or whatever getting outof it.
I don't know of anyone who'slike that was the best thing
ever, because it's miserable,right, no one likes to be that
cold the first 10 minutes, butbenefit.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, during the day you're like holy shit, I feel a
lot better, like you know, likesuper energy.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
A couple times I've done.
I'm like ready to go, and thatwas at after a work day totally
and it's like that sense ofaccomplishment you just did
something hard yeah so, forpeople who ever hesitate, dare
yourself to do something thatmakes you so uncomfortable,
because the benefit you'll getfrom it yeah
Speaker 1 (44:58):
will be pretty eye-opening and it was awesome
to see all these young adultsbeing like, wow, it's like light
bulb went off I, and I thinkone of the big things to show is
like you know, know how youtalk yourself, because Rogan
always talks about it too.
He's like I have to like get myinner bitch out.
Yeah, I have to talk myself.
(45:18):
And like people got to realizeit's because you see, all these
people just like jumping in thatcold plunge and it not that
easy.
These, I think, showing thesepeople that like no, it's normal
, everyone's.
Like you could be doing itevery day, but you're still
talking to yourself, yeah,talking yourself into jumping
into that cold water it's stilluncomfortable, like people
(45:40):
people think, oh, they're usedto it.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Now, although your body gets more and more used to
it, you still feel like bitch,like you and you're like, oh, I
hate this, like the first 10, 15seconds that I get in, I'm like
I hate this, I hate this, butyou still do it.
But you're right, like if youcan show.
It's not an adventure, it's notlike you're getting.
You know this amazing desserthandy too, You're like this
(46:02):
isn't fun, but weigh the prosand cons.
What are the benefits of this?
Speaker 1 (46:09):
the pros and cons, what are the benefits of this?
And then that accomplishmenttakes the whole steps.
Do the do the steps, thepreparation, jumping in and like
the first 10 minutes and thenthe hour after, how you feel,
like recording, like how youfeel and what you're thinking in
your mind, totally how yourmind's running I think, that's
like I've been trying to drop myresting heart rate.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
That one time I went I did what you said, you know,
like go to the sauna, get out ofthe sauna, sauna, go into the
cold plunge, and my restingheart rate that night dropped
like 15 really beats.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, wow, in one night.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
In one night, I'm like it had to be that because
I'm like I'm still trying tobring it regularly below 70, but
it was like 75 to 78 and thatnight was 60, the next day was
like 65 and then it shot back up, you're resting, yeah, do you
ever actually sleep?
Speaker 1 (47:00):
oh yeah, ours runs in the 70s.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
I drink I drink too much caffeine okay, yeah alcohol
messes it up too.
Alcohol just destroys it.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
But our like, even our what's the what is it?
Heart rate HRV is like it's waytoo low.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Is it and?
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I've been trying to figure.
You know, get that normal.
Sometimes when we go onvacation that works, or
epithelon.
If I take epithithalon, likewhen I do my cycle of that,
it'll jump to 50s, 60s.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
But we're always like , I think, just like stress yeah
, if you don't ever have thatdowntime, I used to always be
above 100.
And then, like two years ago, Ihad a medical issue and it
dropped, and I've been above 100once and it's like I will
notice days that I'm sick yeah,which is weird, but I just lay
in bed because I'm sick.
Yeah, my hiv goes up.
(47:54):
I'm like I have to legit notmove.
Yeah, just to get like this isannoying.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, but yeah, it's, it's crazy that's how your body
runs yeah, we're never runninglike mine's like 20, 30s and
then some nights jumps up to 50s.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
But did you have an increase when you took cjc or
any of the growth hormonereleasing peptides?
Not really, it's, it's moreepithelial than anything else.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
and the other thing is like I did the five-day fast
or fast mimicking diet that'slike, but like I drop like a log
at eight o'clock when you dothat and I'm like you know
figuring out what day I could doit.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
So what I'm curious about this?
Did you do just water, did you?
How was your fast?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
So I did the fast mimicking diet.
So there's a package you canget or like there's DYIs that
you could do, but like for usit's like Prolon.
They give you these bars, thesesoups, that and tea that are
like.
This guy did tons of researchand came up with the amount of
(48:55):
like macronutrients and stuffthat you could do that mimic
fasting yeah and you just takethose and you know you get
better sleep and it just resetsyour body and you're supposed to
do it like three to four timesa year, just cycle it every few
months, and some people say, doit once a month.
I'm like I think that'soverdoing it.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah, are you familiar with Dr Pompa.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
So he's a friend of mine through Genius Network, and
so I've talked to him now forabout a year.
And I keep trying to get braveenough to do it Because clearly
the benefits I'm like I wantthat reset.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, I don't know how to do the.
I don't know how to do thewater diet, like some people are
doing it for 30 days and that'scrazy yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
I've, only I haven't even done a 24 hour.
Let's be honest, like I eat alot, so I'm like 12 hours to me,
freaks me out.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
But I can't even step into 24.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
But one of these days I'm going to do it.
I just don't know Like I run.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Check out the Prolon.
They have the five-day fastingmimicking diet and you could do
that to start out.
Yeah, just kind of like astepping stone, yeah and you'll
get great sleep and it's good toreset the body and almost work
very similar really okay.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, I almost feel like I need to do a stepping
stone because I'm afraid I mightjust drop dead.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
I'm like I can't imagine 24 hours, but clearly
people do it all the time yeah,I do like a lot of times, like
you know, I'll um, I always fast, I don't eat breakfast.
I'll have like my supplementsin the morning, but um, and
that's like non-caloriesupplements, like vitamins and
(50:40):
stuff, and we'll do a eight, tenhour case or I'll have a few
cases before that and then walkinto that case helping him out
and I won't eat and it's likeyou know I ate at like 6 pm the
night before and it's like five,six o'clock before I get out of
the case and I'll eat.
Then.
You know, like I've done the24-hour thing.
(51:02):
I take glp-1s lower dose, butlike it's still like kind of
suppresses my appetite I don'teven think about it and I like,
sometimes I'm barely evendrinking water.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
So wow, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
That's so interesting to me.
Yeah, but that's.
That's always a true test.
Like everybody is differentyeah you know, just naturally
say whatever some people couldfast and be fine yeah, some
people can't do yeah, my wifecan't fast.
She has blood sugar issues see,that's where I do too.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
And yeah, some people get tachycardic or something
like yeah, their heart rate goesthrough the roof, like with
andy.
Andy was like, yeah, hecouldn't fast because, yeah, his
heart rate goes through theroof.
You feel like he can't do it atall yeah to me.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
As crazy as my brain is, I'm like this is a mental
challenge.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
I'm going to overcome all these.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
But then on the flip side I'm like, don't be an idiot
.
Yeah, so we'll see.
But you're right, maybe I dothe stepping stone first.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
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