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SPEAKER_00 (00:19):
We have Mariah
Mariah's season wellness.
SPEAKER_06 (00:24):
All right.
So I'm huge into peptides andhormones and everything.
And so we're like, you know, wewere talking her last week and
or a couple weeks ago, and well,she's like, oh, she's my best
friend, and she does all thishormone wellness stuff.
So we're like, uh it's justright up our alley, and stuff I
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like to talk about.
And the female hormones, like,it's so confusing.
And like, no matter how manylectures I've gone to, I'm like,
one thing is I deal with a lotof breast cancer patients too.
So it's it's a touchy subjectwith trying to help them with
hormones, uh, with you know,their oncologists and stuff.
(01:08):
So, you know, and I try tolisten to as many experts that
do more, and like especiallyfemales that go through it
themselves, especially like youstarted your journey on your
your own, correct?
SPEAKER_00 (01:21):
Correct, yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, even I'm hearing adoctor sit here and tell me how
confusing hormones can be.
And as a woman who goes throughher, you know, psych her
hormonal cycle every singlemonth, we as women don't have
any of this information aboutour hormones.
When we go through like sex edand we learn about our periods
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and our menstrual cycles, that'slike all it is.
It's like, oh, you bleed for aweek and now you can get
pregnant.
But we were never taught thehormones, specifically the sex
hormones that pulse in.
And when they pulse in, it's a28 to 30 day cycle, it's not
just one week.
Yeah, and those hormones needsupport in specific ways.
(02:04):
And I think if women had thisinformation, their lives would
be so much better.
Like we would be able to,instead of resisting like going
through our periods and ourmonthly cycles, we will be able
to flow through it with ease.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (02:22):
So and I think
that's huge.
Like, you know, well, I'mmarried.
Like for people that aremarried, like you know, when
your wife's about to go througha cycle before they even know
it.
And like, you know, my wife acouple days later, she'll tell
me, she's like, Oh, I'm I'mstarting my uh my period.
And I'm like, Yeah, I knew thata few days ago.
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You know, I can tell right offthe bat.
You know, so like to be able to,you know, I've tried to do, you
know, do different supplementsor like help her with different
hormones and stuff to try to gether balanced out where we can
kind of work with it so she'snot having all the see symptoms
of PMS or whatever it is, so shecan go through it.
(03:06):
But like I haven't gone into thecomprehensive, you know, it
starts with like doing labtesting.
The lab testing's confusingitself.
Like, what it is.
What do you like to use for likelab testing?
I know you had some of the stuffthat you do that you talk about.
SPEAKER_00 (03:25):
Right.
So I'm an integrative healthpractitioner.
I was trained by Dr.
Steven Cabral, and I'm a leveltwo, so that means that I can he
has taught me how to um look atfunctional medicine labs.
So those are different markersthan regular labs.
Um, and then determine fromthere like what protocol, what
lifestyle um factors we canbring in to start rebalancing
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the hormones.
So I've kind of stopped usingthem as much.
They're very expensive.
Insurance doesn't cover them.
But if somebody has the moneyand wants to pay, then I
definitely will because it showsme great insight into the door
that we need to enter first andhow to start rebalancing and
healing.
So we do what's called a stressmood and metabolism test.
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So it's measuring cortisollevels, it's measuring your
estrogen, your progesterone,your testosterone, uh, your
estrogen to progesterone ratiois very important.
We're also measuring yourcortisol three or four times
throughout the day.
So we have different levels.
Um from that point, I can reallysee, okay, you know, maybe the
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estrogen to progesterone ratiois completely off.
Uh, she's estrogen dominant, heradrenals are burnout.
I would call that like stageseven adrenal dysfunction, where
her cortisol is just tanked andreally low.
So going in for a woman likethat and rebalancing, we need to
be very, very careful becausethey're very sensitive to um,
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you know, going in too hard andtoo fast with different
lifestyle practices, especiallylike fasting.
Um I I really believe first thata woman can rebalance her
hormones if she is living areally good lifestyle and doing
the inner work.
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Um a lot of times with women, Idon't even need to do a lab
test.
I can just look at them and seehow they're behaving and what's
going on in their life and know,yeah, your hormones are gonna be
out of balance, your cortisol isout of balance.
Most of the time, I always,always, always start with their
metabolic health.
So we start with their bloodsugar.
SPEAKER_02 (05:36):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (05:36):
So the gatekeepers
of all of your hormones are
insulin and cortisol.
So we have to get those underunder wraps first.
SPEAKER_06 (05:43):
And the cortisol
you're testing four days is that
four times in a day is salivatest that they do?
SPEAKER_00 (05:50):
It is, yeah.
Um, so that's really helpful.
But I would say most women whocome to me, they've tried
everything.
Yeah, a lot of them want to dobioidentical hormones, which for
some is great.
SPEAKER_01 (06:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:05):
But what I'll also
say is a lot of time the women
they they do the bioidenticalhormones and they're not working
like they should be working.
So what women were never taught,we have to have the right
vitamins, minerals, andnutrients to make a hormone.
SPEAKER_01 (06:23):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (06:23):
And then we have to
be able to metabolize that
hormone.
SPEAKER_01 (06:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:27):
And then we have to
be able to detox that hormone.
So if you put a woman onbioidenticals and she's not
doing the lifestyle work, thenthat hormone that you're giving
her now, she's not able tometabolize still or to detox.
So it is still gonna causeimbalance and you're not gonna
get perfect results.
SPEAKER_06 (06:44):
Yeah.
And is there a form of thehormones that you recommend for
females that are doing thehormone replacement?
Are they doing pellets, shots,or creams?
SPEAKER_00 (06:57):
That is not my area
of expertise.
Um, I actually would saybioidentical hormones first.
Um but I have a lot of friendswho are using pellets and
creams, and they're workinggreat.
SPEAKER_01 (07:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:13):
Um, I would say if
you are going the hormone route,
you should also be working witha lifestyle coach to really
start focusing on doing theinner work, on healing.
Um, I mean, you can activate somany different healing pathways
in the body on your own.
SPEAKER_01 (07:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (07:35):
So I use fasting a
lot.
I was trained by Dr.
Mindy Pels.
Um, she has the framework fastlike a girl, eat like a girl,
and now age like a girl.
And those are her books.
You can read about them.
But using those frameworks, thefast like a girl framework,
actually, we have put womenthrough it who haven't been able
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to get pregnant, who have beenin just terrible PMDD or
premenstrual syndrome where theyare want to kill themselves.
They feel like they're goingcrazy, they feel like they're
losing their mind.
You put them through this 28-dayfasting and eating reset that
works to support their hormones,and everything shifts.
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All of those symptoms go away.
Women are actually now gettingpregnant and can have a baby.
All of those PMS symptoms aregoing away.
Women who weren't able to loseweight are now fat-burning all
the time and are in very goodhealth, in very good shape.
So I use fasting, but when womenfast, they have to do it
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instinct with their hormones.
So I like to look at hormonesthrough a lens of I like to make
it easy.
I'm not a doctor.
And when the doctor who taughtme, Dr.
Cabral, about hormones, I wasstill confused.
SPEAKER_01 (09:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (09:02):
Like looking at the
charts, okay, we have all of
these hormones coming in.
Dr.
Mindy taught me to look at it asyour hormones have a love
language, your sex hormones.
And we have to know eachhormone's love language.
It's like having, you know, ahusband and his love language is
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physical touch, but you're justgiving him gifts all the time.
Like you're really not fillinghis cup.
And that's kind of how it iswith your hormones.
If you're doing the wrong thingat the wrong time, you're gonna
tank your hormones.
So, like estrogen, I call herthe radiant diva.
She loves fasting, she likes lowinsulin and low glucose.
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She can handle stress, she canhandle heavy workouts.
Testosterone needs low stress,low toxins.
Progesterone needs nurturing,calm, and higher levels of carbs
to come through and lowcortisol.
unknown (10:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:02):
So looking at it in
that way, it's really easy to
remember.
And I feel like that's what allwomen should be learning because
that's so easy to do.
SPEAKER_06 (10:10):
No, I think that's
yeah, I think that that's huge.
Just how you explained it kindof puts it into perspective for
a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00 (10:18):
A lot of women don't
even know, like 10 days before
their period.
I call it the nurture phase.
And that's the time when yourecognize in your wife that
she's a little like triggered,you know, maybe there's a little
anxiety, maybe she's biting herhead off.
That's probably because shehasn't been nurturing her
progesterone.
Yeah, her cortisol might bespiking, so which is tanking
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progesterone.
Um, she's not eating nature'scarbs, maybe she's like leaning
into keto or doing heavyworkouts.
Yeah, those things all tankprogesterone, and then you're
gonna feel those symptoms.
Yeah, yeah, so um, really it isjust about supporting the sex
hormones and education.
SPEAKER_06 (10:56):
So, what like the
28-day fasting?
What's the protocol that you'reuh actually or a sample of it?
Okay, at least because it's notthe same for everyone.
SPEAKER_00 (11:05):
So no, and so uh,
and I'll let Tiana too pitch in
here.
So the 28-day reset, when I sonow I do group coaching.
Um, I just feel like I can helpmore women in a group space and
we can keep each othermotivated, and it's like we have
a fun community.
Um, so I lead a group of womenthrough the 28-day reset, and I
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tell them, you know, two weeksbefore we start prepping our
body, we start eating wholefoods, we start um making sure
we're hydrated, drinkingelectrolytes, we start getting
sunlight.
Sunlight is one of the missingnutrients that is a key driver
for hormone dysfunction.
Um, so we start gettingsunlight, sunrise in our eyes,
sunset at night.
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And then day one, um, we enterthis 28-day reset in um,
depending on what day of yourcycle you're on.
All women should be trackingtheir cycle.
If you're not tracking yourcycle, you can't optimize and
you don't know what day of yourcycle you're on, so you don't
know the hormones that arepulsing in.
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So day one through 10 of awoman's cycle is considered a
power phase.
And that's also part of thefollicular phase.
And that is when estrogen isstarting to make her entrance,
days one through 10.
So hormones are kind of low.
Day one, you start your period.
Day one is the first day youbleed of a woman's cycle.
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So during days one through 10,during that follicular phase, we
it's called the power phase.
That's when we can lean intolonger fasts.
So we I like to lean intometabolic flexibility, getting
into ketosis.
So we start eating more higherfat foods, less carbs, less
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sugar.
We start fasting.
Um, it depends on if you fastedbefore.
I'll maybe we'll start with an18-hour autophagy fast.
It activates all of the cellularhealing.
Uh, and then maybe on day two, Iyou won't fast, but you're still
gonna eat keto.
unknown (13:10):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (13:11):
Day three, I'm gonna
have you jump into a 24-hour
fast.
So we are varying our fastinglengths, days one through 10,
anywhere between 18 hours andfor the really experienced, 72
hours.
So that three-day fast that is acomplete immune reset.
SPEAKER_01 (13:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (13:30):
Um, okay, after day
10, you're on day 11.
And this is when you're startingto go into ovulation.
So days 11 through 15, we callthis the manifestation phase.
This is where all of a woman'shormones are pulsing in.
So it's her estrogen,testosterone, and progesterone.
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They are all coming in duringthis phase.
This is what we like to call awoman's superpower phase.
Yeah, she has all of thosehormones pulsing in.
The estrogen is peaking.
So that's making her morevibrant, more radiant.
It makes her smell different.
The pheromones are different.
It is, you know, getting herready to have a baby.
SPEAKER_02 (14:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (14:12):
And so we don't
really want to fast too long
during that manifestation phasebecause we don't want to
activate autophagy and um toxinrelease from the fat just
because you don't want to tankthat progesterone that's coming
in.
So we only fast maybe 13, 14hours during that phase, and
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we're eating hormone-feastingfoods.
So we are bringing up our carbsand our glucose, nature's carbs,
clean proteins, healthy fats.
unknown (14:41):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (14:42):
Okay.
And then we go into day 16,which is the power phase two.
That's after ovulation, all ofthe woman's hormones are
dropping back down lower again.
So that's kind of when she canlike feel and fast more like a
man, because all of thosehormones that were at their peak
are now dropped.
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So she can fast for longer, shecan get back into keto, she can
do her HIIT workouts.
When we get to day 19, that isyour nurture phase.
That's when we have to slow itdown, start calming and
nurturing and preparing forprogesterone to make her
entrance.
SPEAKER_01 (15:20):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (15:20):
And when that
progesterone comes in, that's
what we need to eat morenature's carbs, more glucose,
the clean proteins, healthyfats, and greens, and really
just support ourselves and notdo too much, or else we tank the
progesterone.
So the fasting links there, youdon't fast at all.
So 10 days before a woman'speriod, she should not be
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fasting at all.
SPEAKER_01 (15:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:44):
So we're really
using the the the follicular
phase to get into deeper healingfasting.
SPEAKER_06 (15:49):
And are you just
running this like all
throughout, or are you doinglike cycles, like like 28-day
cycles or three or four monthsand then taking time off?
SPEAKER_00 (16:00):
Yes.
So I practice this um prettyregularly.
Yeah.
And usually the women that Ihelp and run through this 28
days.
So in the the group course thatI am coaching right now, we are
just gonna run through 28 daysand then the course is over.
unknown (16:17):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (16:18):
But yes, I would
start it up again every month.
unknown (16:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (16:21):
I mean, that is a
woman, that could be a woman's
fasting routine to help clearold damage cells, to help
regenerate stem cells, to helpher fat burn and lose weight.
To, I mean, fasting is reallythe most powerful way to
activate your inner fountain ofyouth.
SPEAKER_06 (16:41):
Yeah.
And when you're talking fasting,is it just water fast or are you
using, you know, some peoplelike to use essential aminos
because you get headaches andstuff, or like even keto nesters
to kind of kick you more intoketosis.
SPEAKER_00 (16:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (16:57):
When you're doing
them.
SPEAKER_00 (16:58):
Yeah, you can you
can definitely use all of that
stuff.
Um when we're doing the 28-dayfast like a girl reset.
I always want uh my ladies to besupported, and especially if
they want to work out whenthey're fasting.
Um, and like when my husband'sfasting, I do he takes the
aminos, uh, perfect aminos, Ithink.
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He will also take creatine.
Uh no, not just water.
I feel like our water isn'treally healthy enough to um to
keep us going through a fast.
Like you need minerals.
So my favorite products are thebeam minerals.
They're fulvic and humic.
They have 70 trace minerals.
If I have a headache, I'll takea couple of shots of that.
SPEAKER_01 (17:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:42):
I drink element
electrolytes.
Um, I drink a lot of lemonwater, a lot of mineral water,
sparkling water, herbal tea.
SPEAKER_01 (17:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:51):
And you can take the
um, I mean, if you're really
struggling in a longer fast, Ihave taken like MCT oil.
SPEAKER_02 (17:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (17:59):
And that kind of
helps me out.
If your blood sugar is kind ofdysregulated and your
hypoglycemic are going low, thatcan help you.
SPEAKER_06 (18:07):
And have you have
you tried any of these like
fasting mimicking diets likeprolon or anything?
SPEAKER_00 (18:13):
Yeah.
I haven't tried them myself.
I have friends and clients wholove that.
SPEAKER_06 (18:18):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:19):
Um, I mean, there's
so much research that's done on
it that it really works.
SPEAKER_06 (18:23):
Yeah, the guy behind
it's pretty big.
You know, like I read on Reddit,like, yeah, you know, some DIY
ways to do it, but I'm like, youknow, when it comes in a
five-day package, but like thetough part was like just eating
that soup.
It's like I'm not a I am a soupperson, but I'm not a like like
a lentil soup type of personthat has nothing else than you
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know, and it's just basicallysalt, you know, salt water
almost.
SPEAKER_00 (18:50):
So I did hear that
maybe the quality of the
ingredients weren't that great.
I'm not sure.
I'd have to look into theingredients myself.
SPEAKER_06 (18:57):
They've improved
them, but I haven't tried the
new one.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just tried like a 48-hour fastbecause I came back from Spain.
I was like, all right, let's noteat.
So I don't get the jet lag.
SPEAKER_00 (19:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (19:09):
So um it did pretty
well, but like I think my my
circadian rhythm is still out ofwhack.
Oh like waking up at three inthe morning instead of what I'm
supposed to.
SPEAKER_00 (19:20):
So yeah, for sure.
I think if you are not gonnafast because you're too scared
of not eating for 48 hours, thenI think the prolon would be
great if it gets you into a fastand autophagy.
Do you ever use um a ketone or aglucose monitor when you're on
the prolon to like double check?
SPEAKER_06 (19:40):
I haven't like I've
used a glucose monitor, but not
while I did the prolong.
I did the prolon thing once.
I haven't tried it again becauseI like I don't know, the soups
kind of threw me off.
I was like, I I'd rather becauseI'm usually on a 16-18 hour fast
on my own, so I don't I usuallydon't use their stuff.
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Um I do use ketone esters almostdaily, like in the morning.
So ketone esters, like all thisother ketone, like ketone salts
and stuff, they they actuallydon't work.
The ketone esters are like I Idon't know how to explain it,
but but they're like pureketones that like feed your
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brain cells, give you energy,and where you can go through the
and that's what I used in my48-hour fast.
I take like a shot of it andit's like five mls, five to ten
mls every like four to six hoursor so, and like it feeds your
brain cells and like energizesyou so you don't really need um
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anything else, you don't need toeat or anything, and it kick
kicks you into further ketosis.
SPEAKER_00 (20:50):
I think that would
be great, especially for people
who are struggling to get intoketosis, because if you haven't
detoxed your liver in a while,you know, your liver makes the
ketones and it's not a lot ofdifferent ketone esters, like
ketoneade's the brand I use.
SPEAKER_06 (21:04):
Um there's ketone IQ
sprouts carries that now ketone
IQ doesn't kick you as much intoketosis as the ketoneid.
Ketonade was the one of thefirst products, and I think Dave
Asprey like originally got withthem, and they used he said it
was like five thousand dollarsfor like one drink.
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Now it's like it's still prettyexpensive, but it's not that
five thousand dollars.
I pay you know, 70 to 100 bucks,and I get like three 60 ml
vials, which usually you takefive to ten ml, so it lasts you
almost 20-30 days.
Um for that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:41):
I can see the
benefit of that, especially you
know, you're a plastic surgeon.
Yeah, you probably have to gointo surgery and you have to
make sure that you are supportedand have that energy.
SPEAKER_06 (21:49):
Yeah, and that
that's the main thing.
I like you know, once I got intoshape, it was more about how I
can improve my brain, like to belike just more functional, yeah,
brain-wise, because i in theoperating field too, just being
microvascular surgeon stuff, youjust it's just more like you
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consuming your brain and seeinghow functional you are.
And it it has definitely helpedout, and I've used different
things along with that to try toget this like brain superpower.
SPEAKER_00 (22:22):
Yeah, I like to go
into a deep therapeutic state of
ketosis, and I do this by takingmy ketone reading, my glucose
reading, and I know when I getto a GKI of one, yeah, that's
when all of the deep brainhealing is happening.
Um, I was in a a pretty bad caraccident uh a couple years ago,
and I did use the thattherapeutic state of ketosis to
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heal very quickly.
Um, and it it really works.
So, I mean, ketones are amazingfor healing.
SPEAKER_06 (22:54):
Yeah, so besides the
fasting, what are your major
lifestyle changes?
You like to, you know, whensomeone comes in, like they're
just living their sedentarylifestyle, eating McDonald's or
whatever.
Um, when they come to see you,what are your first like three
steps or five steps you're like?
You gotta change these beforelike you know, whether it's
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better sleep, exercise, whatwhat are your recommendations?
SPEAKER_00 (23:22):
Um it differs with
each person, yeah.
But I'll tell you, I do havepersonal experience with clients
like that.
And people that come to me thatare really overweight and don't
have the money to do lab testingand um don't have the money to
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do really healthy foods all thetime.
So if it was somebody like that,I first tell them to start
getting sunlight.
Most people are so lightdeficient, they're not even able
to um make sex hormones.
Like they're not even using thecholesterol.
The sun actually activates yourcholesterol and sends it through
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the hormonal pathway instead ofbuilding up in your blood.
So sunlight starts working onthat.
And then I notice too,mitochondria health.
If their mitochondria aredamaged, they need to start
fasting in order to start uh themitophagy and regenerating and
that kind of thing.
So I would usually the lifestylepractices that we start first,
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sunlight, always sunrise, sunsetin your eyes, on your skin.
At least we're in Arizona, sothat's if you're you know, if
you're in Iowa where my family'sfrom, a lot of times they don't
even have the vitamin D in thewinter, the UVB.
Um, so we sometimes will usesunlights in in their home, but
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we always clean up the food, weclean up their their um
metabolic health.
So I always usually suggest, andI would suggest this to anyone
wanting to be age-proof andwanting to anti-aging strategies
to use a continuous glucosemonitor.
Yeah, but because we can'tbalance hormones with insulin
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and cortisol.
SPEAKER_06 (25:08):
Which one do you
like?
SPEAKER_00 (25:09):
Um, well, I go
through this company called Thea
Health.
SPEAKER_06 (25:12):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (25:13):
Um, and so they use
Libra, yeah, the Libra sensor,
and I really like it.
It's been great.
SPEAKER_03 (25:18):
Um it's not that
costly.
That's the thing.
Like originally I was like, oh,that's gonna cost quite a bit.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:26):
Yeah, the prices
have gone down.
Uh, so it makes it, you know, alittle easier, but I'll do that
for two weeks.
SPEAKER_06 (25:32):
My question was
like, when when do you test it
after eating?
SPEAKER_00 (25:36):
Oh, the glucose and
ketones?
Yeah.
So during a fast or or whenever.
SPEAKER_06 (25:42):
Like when you got
the glucose monitor, I was like,
when do I put that thing up tomy phone?
SPEAKER_00 (25:48):
Oh, so like a
continuous monitor?
SPEAKER_06 (25:50):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:51):
Mine is like the one
that I use, it's always like
it's on a time.
SPEAKER_03 (25:56):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:57):
It's like 15
minutes.
It's in an app and I can see itlike all the time.
SPEAKER_06 (26:02):
Oh, I had to like
tap it and to yeah, some of the
older ones.
SPEAKER_00 (26:06):
Yeah.
You do have to do that.
SPEAKER_06 (26:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:08):
Um, I like to see,
okay, I like to see like where
I'm at when I wake up in themorning.
Yeah.
I like to see what my cortisolis doing.
Is it like going off the chartsfrom my coffee?
unknown (26:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:17):
Or, you know, maybe
I need to add a little fat to my
coffee.
I also like to look at it maybeabout two or three hours after I
wake before I eat.
unknown (26:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (26:25):
And so what way do
you add fat to your coffee?
SPEAKER_00 (26:28):
What?
SPEAKER_03 (26:28):
What way do you add
fat to your coffee?
SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
It's usually through
coconut, raw coconut butter or
MCT oil.
SPEAKER_03 (26:37):
Okay.
I've heard a few people talkingabout putting just the grass-fed
butter in there.
And it tastes very similar tojust doing a cappuccino.
SPEAKER_00 (26:49):
Yeah, I think that
would be really good.
That's why I like the coconutbutter.
SPEAKER_05 (26:53):
Uh it does taste
kind of like butter, but the
bulletproof was you had toemulsify it with the grass-fed
butter.
So like the particles got inthere.
SPEAKER_06 (27:04):
But like, yeah,
again, fancy.
Like, you know, I tried alldifferent, like when I did the
keto diet, like for a while.
I tried like I had all these MCToils, different brands.
Like, this one's better than theother.
Trying different kinds.
The grass-fed butter definitelytasted the best.
SPEAKER_03 (27:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:21):
Yeah.
I don't like the taste of MCToil, really.
No, no.
SPEAKER_03 (27:25):
Coconut butter is
really good.
My wife used to make these likeuh Reese's cups.
It's just half coconut oil, halfalmond butter.
Yes.
Just like freeze them and youhave your snack like four, like
two, three, four snacks a day.
Um that those worked out prettywell too.
SPEAKER_00 (27:46):
So good for keeping
those ketones up too.
They while you're fasting.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_07 (27:52):
How about let's talk
about um what we do with
perimenopause and menopausalwomen and how you're still
helping them manage and gothrough their different
hormones.
SPEAKER_00 (28:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (28:04):
So well, kind of
like we can really benefit from
learning from anything aboutwomen going through hormones.
That would be that would begreat.
You need to watch the room.
That's what I'm trying to talkto.
SPEAKER_07 (28:21):
Listen to that on
the way ride home.
It'll help you.
SPEAKER_00 (28:24):
I love raw material
that you guys are wanting to
know this information, and it'llbe so helpful too, like to
understand your wives and theiremotions and their feelings.
Um, so with menopausal women,perimenopausal women, I we're
we're I'm reallylifestyle-based.
(28:45):
We focus on a really healthy andclean lifestyle.
And there's a lot of women thatthink that they're doing
everything.
You know, they got theirweighted vest, they're doing
10,000 steps a day, they'reworking out, they're getting
into ketosis, they're fasting,but it's not really synced up
with their hormones.
And I'll find, I'll say, I haveworked with a lot of women, and
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we've done a lot of thelifestyle stuff and a lot of the
detoxing work, and they stillweren't, they still weren't
getting better and theirhormones weren't shifting.
And I pondered for so long and Ifinally realized what the
missing piece was for womengoing through perimenopause and
experiencing like really harshsymptoms.
(29:28):
It's usually their their mentalhealth, their thoughts and their
emotions.
So in in my group coaching, wealways work on the inner work,
which is always the thoughts inyour beliefs and traumas and
emotions.
So if your emotional state mostof the time throughout your day
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is self hate or stress, chronicstress, you're always like go,
go, go, and you have to do this,and you have a huge to do list.
This is actually telling yourbody that you're in fight or
flight, you're releasingcortisol, you are really
shutting down the whole sexhormone pathway to producing sex
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hormones.
So your hormones are going to beout of balance.
So we work a lot on emotionalbalance.
But the number one piece todoing the inner work and really
helping women get back on trackgoing through perimetopause, I
feel like they're going througha hormonal transition, like this
huge hormonal transition.
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They don't know where they'regoing and they don't know how to
get through it.
So I always start with havingthem craft a vision.
So I think you got I've heardyou guys talk about envisioning
going through a surgery beforeyou do it and walking through
it.
For women and for anyone lookingfor uh rebalancing their health,
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they have to craft a vision.
So I take all of my womenthrough vision crafting.
And the vision craft really islike the architect.
It's like your highest self isthe architect.
It's like you're you arecreating a blueprint for a home,
but it's for your health.
And so you have something toalign with throughout the whole
(31:23):
journey together.
I her vision that she creates,it's like, what would she look
like if she were in her besthealth?
How would she feel?
How would she make people feelwhen she enters a room?
What would she look like whenshe enters the room?
Would you look stressed andtired?
Are you gonna look vibrant andhealthy and excited?
So we get into as deep as howdoes it feel to be this new
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version of you?
Because really, if women can'tsee themselves well, if they
can't believe that they can bewell, then they're gonna say,
stay stuck in, you know,whatever belief or limiting
belief or trauma that they'reholding on to.
So we have to throw all of thatout the door and create a new
vision.
They have to see themselveswell.
(32:08):
We start there.
unknown (32:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (32:10):
Like taking them,
you you take them through like a
guided vision quest type ofthing.
SPEAKER_00 (32:15):
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, I have I havemeditations, I have journeys.
Um yes, I do.
SPEAKER_06 (32:22):
Yeah, no, and like,
you know, part of that, like I I
meditate before I go to sleep.
It like just like calm down yourvagus nerve and like your
parasympathetics, again, youknow, so you're nice and
relaxed, and then wake up, dosomething more mentally.
You know, I use a mendy mendydevice in the morning to be more
(32:43):
focused, you know, differentthings that help me kick into
different vision phases to youknow, and I think it it's huge
and important with likemeditating to get to sleep so
you clear your mind out ofeverything.
SPEAKER_03 (32:57):
I feel like he's
usually meditating on his wife
or um talking to him.
I am.
He is I usually am I've startedthis conversation.
SPEAKER_06 (33:08):
I've I've done so
much meditating that like when I
don't meditate, I'll come offhot.
Like if someone tells mesomething, uh like I'll answer
back immediately and might bethe wrong way.
But like if I've like been onpoint with my meditation, it's
just you you come out with abetter answer, like and just
(33:31):
makes more sense to everyone,and like people believe you more
than than like just spittinglike your knowledge at them.
SPEAKER_03 (33:40):
I I think it it's
also rest and reset for the mind
too.
So that like because like forlike our wrestling matches, like
everything I bring back to likelike wrestling and like growing
up, it it was six minute matchesin college, seven-minute
matches.
But you can't like none of thegood wrestlers were just always
(34:02):
attacking.
Like you you recruit, yourecoup, you gather yourself, and
when the person's vulnerable,you have enough energy to
attack.
And if it requires an extra 30seconds, 45 seconds of attack,
you finish that and get yourtakedown points or back points,
whatever it is.
The funny part is uh a few yearsago we were actually hanging out
(34:25):
at his house four boys, allphysicians, and we never talked
about it at all, but just like Iasked all of them, I was like,
You guys meditate allindependently, yes, quite a bit.
And I was like, so so that's howit relates, like your mind needs
(34:46):
that rest, that reset to justprime itself to like when when
when you're not required to likego at it mentally, like you
should give your mind some somebreak time, some downtime.
So then when when it's needed,like it can just fire on all
(35:07):
nine.
SPEAKER_06 (35:08):
How huge how big are
you on sleep?
SPEAKER_00 (35:11):
Huge, yeah.
Sleep is number one.
That's also in the lifestylepractice for perimenopausal
women.
Sleep is at the top.
Uh, I wear my aura ring.
SPEAKER_02 (35:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:22):
And so your aura
ring tells you how much deep
sleep you get a night.
And the deep sleep is importantbecause that's when we are
healing our brain andregenerating the brain.
So I I say around you need anhour and a half of deep sleep.
I don't know what your yourthoughts are on that.
SPEAKER_06 (35:38):
Um I'm usually like
as long as you get at least an
hour.
Like I can't like if if I get anhour, like I usually can't sleep
after that.
Like sometimes it's like lastnight was an hour and a half,
but like it goes up to twohours.
But if as long as I get an hour,I feel refreshed in the morning.
(35:59):
If I don't get that hour, likeyou wake up groggy.
SPEAKER_01 (36:02):
Yeah, yeah, for
sure.
SPEAKER_03 (36:03):
I've got my
monitors.
I don't know if it'spsychological.
I'm like, 48 minutes.
Oh, this is gonna be a roughday.
Yes, I feel the same.
SPEAKER_00 (36:12):
If I know I've had
kind of a bad night of sleep, I
don't even want to look at myorder range.
SPEAKER_03 (36:16):
Mine's been weird
because it'll like when my like
there's been a few nights wheremy deep sleep's like 30 to 40
minutes, but then my REM sleepslike four hours.
I was just like, how am I doingthis?
Like, even if I wanted to, Idon't know if I could like like
get my body to do this.
(36:36):
And I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (36:38):
Uh yeah, there's
different ways, but I mean
that's really getting into youknow health optimization and you
gotta have more time andconsistency.
But I think you know, gettingseven to nine hours of sleep, I
don't know.
I think sleep is different forevery person.
SPEAKER_01 (36:55):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (36:55):
Um, like my husband
needs like a good nine plus
hours of sleep.
I can do seven, six or seven.
SPEAKER_03 (37:04):
Yes, I'm gonna be
able to do that.
Those are the genetic mutationsthat some people go by with like
four to six hours, and that'swhat they do their whole life,
and that's what their bodyneeds.
SPEAKER_01 (37:13):
Yeah, so yeah, it's
not a good thing.
SPEAKER_06 (37:15):
Yeah, we both have
like the eight sleep that also
tracks your sleep.
And I've tried like going allthe way cold, all the way hot,
and like it's just messingaround with it to try to because
it's supposed to have AI andlike heat and cool, so it keeps
you asleep.
But I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (37:35):
I wake up in the
middle of the night sometimes
and I'm like it's too cold.
SPEAKER_00 (37:40):
My favorite thing to
get more sleep at night is to
make sure that I'm not on ascreen or around any blue light
at least, you know, two to threehours before bed, which can be
really hard if you live in ahousehold where nobody else is
doing that.
But I think the worst thing thata woman can do for her hormones
is like be in screen untillooking in her phone.
SPEAKER_03 (38:00):
Yes, screen until
trying to go to sleep.
SPEAKER_00 (38:03):
And I use uh Viva
rays, yeah, uh glasses.
They I call them my hormonebalancing glasses.
They have three differentlenses, and so I use the more
yellow ones, it's a fullspectrum while while I'm on my
computer during the day.
And then after when the sunstarts going down, there's an
orange lens, and then after thesun goes down, I put on the red
(38:23):
lens.
And that helps.
I fall asleep right away, Isleep deeper, I sleep longer.
SPEAKER_06 (38:30):
Yeah, I set my
iPhone to that whole the blue
light setting where but then Ican't read it.
I know you just uh turn thelight back.
SPEAKER_03 (38:41):
My hardest thing is
when I wake up randomly at like
four o'clock, um, my alarm setfor 5 30 or 6.
It's not that much longer.
I'm like, can I fall asleep?
Can I not?
Oh, let me just check this onething on my phone since I can't
fall asleep.
I'm like, if I check this onething, I'm definitely not
falling back asleep.
So it's like, granted, you wokeup at four, you better be good
(39:05):
to go.
SPEAKER_06 (39:05):
So I usually just
put one of the headsets on and
just meditate back to sleep.
That's a great idea.
Yeah, it works.
SPEAKER_03 (39:14):
Honestly, the thing
that's worked best for me to
fall back asleep.
I cover my head with the sheet.
And I don't know if it's the CO2concentration, but like that's
like knocking out.
Or I'm suffocating myself tosleep.
Like it's the only way I'm like,oh crap, I feel a little cold.
SPEAKER_06 (39:34):
I think the thing
that it usually works, and like
uh I probably don't need theheadset on to do it, is just
like you know, you breathe infor four seconds, hold it for
four seconds, box breathing, oror like hold it for seven
seconds and breathe out foreight seconds.
You do that three, four times,you're almost like automatically
asleep, just kind doing thecounts too.
(39:57):
I think like that helps likeknock you off, usually counting
the sheep.
SPEAKER_07 (40:02):
That's a good trick.
SPEAKER_01 (40:03):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (40:04):
Yeah, there's I
think that the box breathing
does really help with likekicking your parasympathetics
off, and like just trying tothink of it like medically
scientifically.
SPEAKER_06 (40:14):
Because you're
thinking about counting too,
counting and breathing, so likeyou forget about everything
else.
SPEAKER_03 (40:19):
Yeah, so it calms
your mind in that set, and then
like chemically in your body,just the negative pressure in
your chest from holding all thatoxygen in as receptors, like
telling your heart to calm down,getting your blood pressure down
a little bit, and like justhaving that extra bit, and then
(40:39):
the extra effort to like slowlyexhale, like that that helps
with like the more fast-actinghormones and chemicals in your
blood, like epinephrine.
SPEAKER_06 (40:53):
So for us, a huge
part of our practice is breast
cancer patients.
And like I I do want to talkabout this, and you probably
have plenty of patients that arebreast cancer survivors, and
like it's so hard because theyput them on hormone blocking
medications that I'm not a bigproponent of, but I'm not gonna
(41:15):
go against any of theoncologists or anything that are
uh putting these patients onthem.
Uh, but they're they feelmiserable, and I'm like, you
know, like you gotta kind oflook at it like you wanna be
miserable and it like there area good amount of studies that
say it doesn't improve the survsurvival or improves
(41:37):
disease-free survival, but itdoesn't overall improve your
survival.
So I'm like, you make thedecision.
You know, especially when thesepatients are coming in their
60s, they're you know, they wantto they're just getting to their
retirement age and now they havecancer and they want to l live
their life to the fullest, andnow they have hormone blockers,
(41:58):
they're already in menopause,they're just starting to get on
hormone treatment, and now theyhave to kick all that out and
feel like shit.
And like how do you respond topeople going through breast
cancer?
Like we treat them with youknow, there are patients that we
still want the hormonetreatment, and uh we work with
(42:19):
them to see what's right forthem, but how can some lifestyle
changes for them?
SPEAKER_00 (42:26):
Um Yeah, that's a
good question.
I have a couple of clients whohave experienced um, you know,
breast removal, breast cancer,oophorectomy, hysterectomy, and
I mean they are in a terriblestate because they you know,
their hormones aren't in balanceat all.
(42:48):
They've they've shut down a lotof their sex hormone production
just by going through thosesurgeries, especially the
oophorectomy.
Um it's again, it's coming backto lifestyle.
Yeah, it is seeing yourself aswell.
It's crafting that vision andseeing yourself well and knowing
(43:12):
that you can heal.
And then from that vision, youstart aligning everything, your
actions, your thoughts, yourbeliefs, yeah, everything you
align with that highest selfvision, that vision of you
getting well, and especially thethoughts and the beliefs, that's
gonna be huge.
Your thoughts and your beliefsreally um, I mean, they direct
(43:36):
your biology.
Yeah, they direct yourneurotransmitter release.
They, I mean, they form yourbiology.
So we have to get their thoughtsand emotions in check.
Sunlight, number one, we need tostart activating that
mitochondria.
We need to start activating thefeel-good neurotransmitters and
(43:58):
the hormones that they do have,and that happens through
sunlight activation, through theeyes, through the skin.
Number two, I would do um wholefoods diet.
Yeah, and I I would depending onthe cancer and the person, um,
the the longevity diets are youknow going lower in in red meat.
(44:19):
And I would say doing a reallyheavy, plant-based, clean
protein, you know, maybewild-caught fish, that sort of
thing, working on the nutrition.
SPEAKER_01 (44:28):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (44:29):
And then I would
definitely start fasting.
SPEAKER_01 (44:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (44:33):
If I had cancer and
I didn't want it to come back
and I didn't want to do thehormone blockers, I would start
fasting.
I would start helping my body toactivate those deep healing
pathways to regenerate and toclear out those cells that
aren't functioning properly.
(44:53):
So I, I mean, I would do 72-hourfast, like maybe once a month.
I would do a three-day waterfast and I wouldn't mess around.
I wouldn't do the pro lawn, Iwouldn't do fast mimicking.
I would do like electrolytes andminerals in water and let your
body activate all of the healingpathways and see if if you know
(45:15):
what happens from there, if yourbody can rebalance.
Because if you put your body inthe right environment where you
have your sunlight, your food,your fasting, you've cleared out
all of the toxins.
Um, that's something we couldtalk about too.
Women going throughperimetopause and even cancer
should be doing, I think shouldbe detoxing quarterly.
I like to use a functionalmedicine detox.
(45:37):
It's very gentle.
Um, because we we come intocontact with toxins every day.
And I mean, it is all theplastics in the water.
We have to make sure that we aregetting that out.
So I would do that as well.
SPEAKER_06 (45:48):
This is a functional
medicine detox.
So, like, what is that?
SPEAKER_00 (45:52):
It's amazing.
If you guys want a reset, Imean, I I don't rave about
anything.
I mean, I kind of rave about thethe fast like a girl stuff, but
the functional medicine detox ismy all-time favorite product.
It was created by Dr.
Steven Cabral, my mentor, myteacher.
Um, it is either you can chooseseven-day, 14-day, or 21-day.
(46:13):
It it comes with a dailynutritional support powder.
It has all of your vitamins andminerals that you need on a
daily basis.
And then it comes with twobottles of pills.
And one is like functionalmedicine pills.
Uh, I'm forgetting exactlywhat's in there, and the other
one is Ayurvedic base.
But what they do is open up thephase one and phase two pathways
(46:35):
of the liver so you can startdetoxing.
Um, so if you're doing aseven-day detox, here's how it
would look it is a two and ahalf day fast.
You are drinking one scoop ofthis powder.
There's a little bit of proteinin it, and then a lot of
vitamins and minerals.
So you're drinking one scoop ofthis powder four times a day in
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water.
So, I mean, it's kind offilling.
You feel supported, you don'tfeel like you're lacking.
And then day two, you're doingthe same thing.
You're fasting, you're drinkingfour shakes.
The third day in the morning,you're having two scoops of this
shake in your water.
So that's more like a meal, butit's liquid.
So you're still kind of gettingthe benefits of the fast.
(47:21):
So it's two and a half days.
You break your lunch withplant-based vegan lunch.
So the first two days, two and ahalf days fasting.
That third day, you can starteating.
And this it resets your bodybecause of the food.
So at lunch, it's always vegan.
You're getting plant-basedprotein, fruits, no, no fruits,
(47:45):
just vegetables and greens.
And then for dinner, it's morelike a paleo style.
So you can have your protein,lean meat.
SPEAKER_06 (47:53):
See, he used to make
fun of me because I used to be
like, I'm vegan for lunch andthen eat protein at night.
SPEAKER_03 (47:58):
I was just like, You
just can't say that though to
vegan people that are if youwant to go.
It's like, yeah, okay, I didn'teat a banana for a few days now.
You know what I do for mycleanse?
I go to PF Chang's for lunch forseven days in a row.
(48:20):
That cleanses me completely.
And I don't feel the need to eatbecause I feel sick as shit.
SPEAKER_00 (48:29):
I don't know if
that's the best way.
But I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (48:32):
I I should study it
though.
SPEAKER_00 (48:34):
Well, it resets your
eating habits, number one.
Uh the fasting really is amazingfor losing any inflammation,
water weight, that kind ofthing.
SPEAKER_03 (48:43):
Little things I
think it also helps with.
Same thing with like going keto.
Because going keto, you cut outcarbs, and when you cut out
carbs, you you don't eat asmuch.
Same thing with fasting, becauseyou have smooth muscle cells,
that's what your stomach's madeof.
It's just like a stack of smoothmuscle cells.
It's the all-American carbs.
(49:04):
Yeah, it it it's I think it'sand then like even like skeletal
muscle, when the fibers stretchout a little too much, it has a
harder time being able tocontract down.
So then like as your stomachgrows, it releases um chemicals
to tell your mind that you'refull.
(49:26):
But as you keep pushing that,you build build up tolerance and
tolerance.
So then, like, this this is whypeople get their stomach
stapled.
That's pretty much just gettinga portion of the stomach
removed.
And they've historically beenable to eat through that too.
Like 30% have a failure rate,even though they have like half
their stomach removed.
SPEAKER_06 (49:46):
Is it a higher
failure rate?
SPEAKER_03 (49:49):
It it's at least a
third.
It's at least a third betweenall gastric bypass.
SPEAKER_04 (49:54):
Um because some of
them turn into having a full-on
bypass after that.
SPEAKER_03 (50:00):
Even even ruined Y
full bypasses.
SPEAKER_04 (50:02):
That's then they got
GLP1s after that.
SPEAKER_03 (50:05):
Yeah, so you need a
full regimen of like controlling
your diet before this is this isbefore GLP once.
You need uh goodendocrinologist, dietitian, all
this stuff to make sure thatyou're giving yourself the best
chances to succeed at weightloss after getting some of your
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organs switched around or cutoff.
Um, so I don't know where I wasgoing or not.
SPEAKER_00 (50:35):
Well, fasting, I
feel like, can also activate
your natural GLP one activation,the natural peptides in your
body.
So I always tell women, like,you can activate GLP1s, you
don't have to pay.
Like, this is happening insideof your body when you're
fasting.
And especially like doing withthe functional medicine detox,
if you do that for three weeks,yeah, I mean, it's pretty
(50:58):
amazing what starts happening.
I was walking down the streetand somebody was like, You are
glowing, you look so amazing.
What you know, what are youdoing?
And I'm like, Well, I juststopped drinking for three weeks
and you know, did a detox.
SPEAKER_01 (51:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (51:12):
So I do think that
um people who have cancer or
breast cancer, definitely addinga detox in quarterly.
SPEAKER_06 (51:20):
Yeah, I think, yeah,
for for sure.
Like once you find out you havecancer, it's like you there's
something causing inflammation.
But some people come in andthey're like, I've lived this
healthy lifestyle, been a gymrat, eat clean and healthy.
But like the thing they don'tsee is like there's toxicity in
their brain that like eitherit's who they're with or just
(51:45):
the lifestyle they're living,like their work, that they don't
recognize that.
Like, and then on top of it,they're like type A personality,
they're working out like crazyand thinking that's good for
them, where it's causing moreinflammation than it is good for
them.
SPEAKER_00 (52:00):
Yeah, I teach the
women in my program there's five
primary barriers toself-healing.
And I also like to say thatcause inflammation in the body,
and a lot of times people aren'taware of them.
So it's toxins like heavy metalsand environmental toxins, it's
pathogens, viruses, parasites,bacteria that you're unaware of.
It's the um environment andlifestyle, it's the emotional
(52:24):
your emotions, and then it'straumas and limiting beliefs.
So it's usually the emotions andthe traumas that people just
completely don't think about.
SPEAKER_06 (52:35):
Yeah, and I I just
went to Europe last week, and
this week I've gotten morecompliments on how lean I am,
and like all I did was eat likecroissants and ice cream with
the kids, and like I ate alllike plenty of carbs when I was
there.
I I think we did a lot ofwalking, that was one thing.
But like, you know, it's likewhat we get in our meals here,
(52:59):
it's just dangerous, dangerous.
And like I try to eat as cleanas possible.
I have my own chef like try tocook us, but you know, every
once in a while, like my my wifelikes to order out all the time,
so I'll order something withher, but I'm just gonna
stockpile meat at home.
So like I'm just eating puremeat.
SPEAKER_07 (53:20):
Yeah, I think for
for me with doing Mariah's
eight-week program, I'm one ofthose ones who nothing's really
wrong.
So it's nothing's wrong, but Iknow it could be better.
I work out all the time, I havegood energy, I just started
hormone replacement therapy.
It's okay.
Now that I heard you just saythat, like why some people think
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it's wonderful and some peopledon't feel that much, that
really speaks to me because I'mkind of like, I don't even know
if this is worth it.
My labs were off, but it's notworth it.
But to learn about this, becauseeven as a woman who's pretty
outspoken about a lot of things,we're still uncomfortable
speaking about this.
Like, you know, you say bleedand I kind of go, ugh, or you
know, different things likethis.
So it's not things that we talkabout.
And then when you put emotionsand feelings to the different
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hormones, it makes so much senseto take to think about how you
want to care for it.
And I mean, I have no plans, Godbless you, because I'm loving
your program, but I have noplans on living every 28 days of
my life like that.
But I plan on living these 28days like my life like that.
SPEAKER_06 (54:19):
It's almost like
living like Brian Johnson.
You know, like, all right,you're gonna live till you're
180, but you're gonna have spent30 minutes of enjoying yourself
out of that.
SPEAKER_07 (54:31):
Yeah, you know the
difference, you know the
difference, right?
And you'll know the things thatwork for you and and how it
works and then know how to resetyourself.
Well, that's a thing too.
SPEAKER_00 (54:39):
I I don't do that,
you know, 360 days ago.
SPEAKER_06 (54:42):
Like, well, when you
become conscious of how you
feel, that's right.
And that that's like what I do.
I'm like, all right, thesepeptides make me feel good, or
like these exercises make mefeel good, uh, you know, or
these foods make me feel good.
So these are the things I'mgonna incorporate.
Or like I can tell when myhormones are out.
I'm like, you know, I can tellwhen is estrogen.
(55:04):
I yeah, I can tell when they'reout of whack, like just
slightly.
The aura ring tells me part ofit, but like a lot of it, like
I'm like, all right.
Just feel it.
I mainly use resistance bands,and I'm like, well, that
resistance band never felt soheavy.
And it's like an overnight thingwhere I'm like, all right, I
need to go and get my pellets orsomething like that.
SPEAKER_00 (55:26):
Yeah, you want to
feel good.
Yeah, and for me, like I'll takeall summer off, I'll just go
have fun, I'll travel, I'll eatwhatever I want.
I'm not fasting.
Yeah, and then I know that Ihave the tools to come back to
that work, yeah, and that helpme feel better.
SPEAKER_06 (55:40):
Yeah, and detox is
the big thing.
It's like, you know, I do like aliver cleanse, like a GI
cleanse, like whatever I needto, like, especially going on
vacation.
Although like vacation, Iusually I think the food's
better than like, especiallywhen you go to Europe.
Like you almost don't have todetox when you go to Europe.
(56:00):
But like if you're saying US andNorth America, you pretty much
have to because of the US grainsand like all the rest of the
stuff, like bottled waters, whatwhatever it is, yeah that are
putting all these inflammatoryproducts into your system.
Always do yeah, always do adetox every three, four months.
SPEAKER_00 (56:20):
Yeah, that's good.
I think everyone should livingin America.
I think they would feel a lotbetter.
Our hormones would be balanced.
I mean, I feel like our hormonesare so imbalanced because of the
toxicities in our food systemand our water system.
I think it plays a huge role.
SPEAKER_06 (56:40):
What are your
thoughts on statins?
Oh my gosh.
I know you're not a medicaldoctor, but I'm not, but I'll
tell you, I was just thinkingabout it today.
SPEAKER_00 (56:47):
One of my one of my
dear friends, um, she's been
battling like really bad ummenopause symptoms.
And she got on hormone hormonereplacement.
That's not working.
She doesn't want to do any of myprograms, it's just too much for
her right now.
She doesn't want to look at herlifestyle.
SPEAKER_01 (57:06):
But quick fix.
SPEAKER_00 (57:07):
Yeah.
And then she went and she got onstatins.
She just told me she's onstatins.
So I guess, and I would like toget your insight onto this.
When you're on statins, likeyour cholesterol is lowered,
right?
Like you're not are you makingany cholesterol?
So now how are you making yoursex hormones?
How are you keeping yourtestosterone?
SPEAKER_06 (57:26):
That's the thing.
The levels that your PCP wantsyou at, you're not making those
hormones.
You know, like you get you getto 200.
You get to 200, 210.
No, they don't, but like you getto two 200, 210.
They're because my mom, theythey were like, oh, here's
statins, and you know, therethere's other natural peptides
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and stuff that you could take tolower cholesterol, but like her
cholesterol was 210.
I'm like, no, you're alreadylike you're 60 now, she's 70,
right?
Yeah, she's turned 70 this year.
I'm like, you definitely don'tneed to take a statin.
I'm like, there's I'm like, youyour your cholesterol's at 210.
And I'm like, that's fine.
You can live with it.
SPEAKER_00 (58:08):
I'm glad that you
told her that.
Yeah.
Because it, I mean, I don'tunderstand.
Like, why would you put somebodyon a medication to lower
cholesterol instead of going tothe root?
Because now you've taken awaythe the the main building block
of your sex hormones.
Like, yeah, you're you're notgoing to be able to make
testosterone, estrogen.
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And instead, what I see, theroot of high cholesterol, and I
think I mentioned this earlier,is really you are not getting
the right sunlight.
That sun hits your skin, it istaking the cholesterol, turning
it into vitamin D.
This whole process is happening.
Number one, you could start witha sunlight diet, sunrise,
sunset, working out outside,getting it on your skin.
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Number two, it is a mitochondriaproblem.
If you don't have enough energyin your mitochondria to do, you
know, that conversion of thecholesterol into the hormones in
the mitochondria, like you'renot going to be able to make sex
hormones, and your your cortisolis going to end up sitting in
your blood looking like you havehigh cortisol instead of you
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recycling it and using it.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (59:14):
And I'm not saying
for like no one to take statins
because there's people with, youknow, they have genetic
abnormalities where they don'tbreak down the cholesterol.
And they're like in the 300s,400s, and they have high risk of
cardiac.
SPEAKER_03 (59:28):
They have certain
enzyme deficiencies that don't
break down certain steps.
SPEAKER_06 (59:32):
But but you do need
to look at I, you know, it
shouldn't be like I'm gonna takestatins and fix the problem.
You do need to look at what'scausing your cholesterol to be
that high and fixing that, andthen you know, having the
statin, you could take thestatins to lower them, but
figuring out how to come offthose statins.
SPEAKER_03 (59:52):
I just remember
being on rotation like third
year med student with on with aurologist.
It's just like, oh yeah.
Just I take my statins, youshould too.
It's like really how come?
She's like, I just take mystatins and eat steak every
night.
I'm like, what what are youtalking about?
And then stick his finger intheir butts.
(01:00:13):
So I don't know if it's but butit it's just kind of ridiculous
getting advice from people youthink that are informed.
You're just like, oh, this worksfor me.
SPEAKER_06 (01:00:26):
It's like uh but
part of it's part of it's you
know, like with the Americandiet also, like going into
talking about whole foods islike that's where you know your
cholesterol being high.
When you you're when they sayred meat's okay to eat, don't
eat just like any red meatbecause you're gonna get this
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hormone-laden like red meat thatthat's gonna spike up your your
cholesterol and everything, andit's not gonna have your healthy
fats, it's gonna have all yourbad fats.
SPEAKER_03 (01:00:58):
So like processed
red meat associated with early
onset Alzheimer's, alsodose-dependent.
So the more you've eaten likepepperoni, salami, all that
stuff, uh the more you eat it,the quicker onset you're likely
to get Alzheimer's.
SPEAKER_00 (01:01:16):
I hadn't heard that.
I hadn't heard that one either.
Yikes.
SPEAKER_06 (01:01:20):
Process things.
Yeah, I think that's a good one.
SPEAKER_03 (01:01:22):
Yeah, that was like
a retrospective uh review.
SPEAKER_06 (01:01:26):
I read like was it
salami from Italy or was it?
SPEAKER_03 (01:01:29):
No, probably not.
But I I will tell you one thing.
I I did keto during uh trainingfor like close to a year, it
worked phenomenally.
I felt great, but my cholesterolwent through the roof.
Yeah, like I I was prone, like Ihad high cholesterol when we
were younger.
I think that's more rather thanbeing genetic, is I didn't
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actually fast before the test.
I was like, I'll have a littlecheese or something, like two
hours before the blood test, andmy cholesterol's through the
roof.
But um so when I was liketelling Sarah I'm gonna go keto
again, she's like, No, yourcholesterol went crazy high last
time you did it.
But I'm like, Oh, I was intraining, I wasn't eating
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healthy, I was eating out of thevending machine, out of the
cafeteria, a ton of processedred meat.
Seed oils, too.
So it was just not necessarilyeven seed oils, like it was
mostly like salad and red meat,but like my my keto friend my
keto-friendly snack instead ofpotato chips is pork rinds.
(01:02:36):
Which is like it's pork, youshouldn't eat like processed
pork rinds.
Like, I don't care who you are,like that just shouldn't be part
of anybody's diet.
But it's like, okay, gotcalories, got protein, got no
carbs, here we go.
So uh I just look back, I'mlike, oh, that's probably what
did it.
I didn't really have enoughaccess to quality foods to do
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that at that point in my life.
SPEAKER_06 (01:03:01):
Yeah, when when they
like there were certain keto
diets that would talk about likeeating the pork rinds.
That's why paleo was more likeon the whole food.
Because it's more clean.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:11):
For women, I usually
don't have them go full keto.
It's called ketobiotic, and thatis keeping some of the the
healthy greens and vegetables inwith clean meats.
SPEAKER_03 (01:03:24):
Is there's target
grams of carbs a day?
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:29):
Yeah, it's under 50.
SPEAKER_03 (01:03:30):
Okay.
Yeah, I was going for like under20.
SPEAKER_00 (01:03:33):
Yeah, and that's
almost too severe for women
going through hormonal issues.
Yeah.
Um, it can be, especially ifthey're not getting the right
light, uh, sunlight, but theketobiotic works really well
because it's still working withtheir microbiome.
And for women to break downestrogen properly, they have to
have a really strong microbiome.
(01:03:54):
And we call that, I don't knowif you guys have heard of the
estrobilome.
It's a part of the microbiomethat it does exactly that.
It breaks down estrogen.
So a lot of women aren't umcatering to that.
And that's probably too why ifthey're getting hormone
replacement therapy and it's notworking, it's their estrobilome
and microbiome are totally outof balance.
(01:04:16):
They're what?
SPEAKER_03 (01:04:17):
They're not oh
hormone replacements.
Never mind.
SPEAKER_00 (01:04:19):
Well, if they are
and they're not working like
they want them to, yeah.
A lot of times it's just they'renot taught detoxing the hormone,
right?
But so ketobiotic is what I do.
I don't go full in.
I mean, I don't like eatingketo.
I don't like it.
I don't like eating meat.
I hate dairy.
Uh, I feel like whenever I eatdairy, I get inflammation in my
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shoulder.
SPEAKER_03 (01:04:41):
I I I love cheese,
but I don't like the way I feel
when I eat dairy.
Cut out milk.
SPEAKER_06 (01:04:48):
I don't know.
I cut out milk, but I'm likekind of getting back on milk.
I think I'm like getting proteinshakes, and that's what it's
made out of.
Yeah, yeah.
If you're getting your goodgrass-fed milk, I'm like, I
yeah, the sourcing is definitelysomething.
Yeah.
If you if you or like, you know,the carnivore diet, they're all
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about raw milk.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Uh if I'd go for raw milk.
I always hated it as a kid, sobut goat milk, maybe it's on
pasteurized.
SPEAKER_03 (01:05:22):
Smells like shit.
SPEAKER_06 (01:05:23):
Yeah, it's gross.
I don't think I could do I can'tdo goat cheese, so I h highly
don't.
I love goat cheese.
Goat milk.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05:29):
My son had to drink
goat milk when he was a baby.
So my whole journey started withuh, you know, a very sick baby
failure to thrive, couldn't keepanything down, even that like
really bad um colic or yeah, buteven like the the powder that
they gave me to feed him at thegastroenterologist.
(01:05:50):
I mean, it smelled like dogfood.
It was supposed to be likebroken down proteins, but he was
throwing that up too.
So we um from a doctor, shesaid, well, the only thing he's
not allergic to is goat's milk.
So we made this goat's milkformula, yeah, and he loved it,
and it changed his life.
He was like a totally differentkid once we started giving him
that, and he thrived.
SPEAKER_03 (01:06:10):
So it's supposed to
be great for your microbiome and
like your a ton of greatprobiotics and stuff,
pro-prebiotics.
So this has a funky low.
No, I can't stand the smell ofit.
Yeah.