August 27, 2025 • 37 mins
The line between quackery and cutting-edge medicine isn’t always obvious.
From a Victorian inventor who ate Vaseline daily to modern fecal transplants, leeches, and medical-grade maggots, we explore how some bizarre remedies actually work and which ones could be deadly.
We also highlight traditional practices that science is now validating, like pomegranates for mitochondria, tart cherry juice for sleep, and barberries for blood sugar control.
Curious which ancient remedies hold real power?
Listen in and discover how old wisdom and modern science can work together and share the remedies you swear by in the comments!
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
you look so white.
Did you do some bloodlettingroutine?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
No, he came in even with the surgical cap.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
He had these three scratches on his forehead.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I was like cat or son .
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh, that's why you did the curl to cover it up.
No, I didn't even mean tothat's Suavecito curls yeah.
Suavecito scrub, cap curl.
Are you using suavecito?
Yeah, of course are you thebest.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Uh, I don't use it every day.
Um, I went back to it.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I keep getting the 32 yeah, I get the massive one.
It really is the best product.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
The price point like I was using, like the american,
and it was like I was justrunning out for like a week.
I was like, come on, now I'mgoing to go back to Murray's.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Are you guys using normal, Are you going firm or
are you going meté Al?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
dente you firm.
Yeah, I use firm or normal.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I think it binds the new I.
I had the.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
They have like their, like luxury one, two or their
high-end one I used that, but I,I didn't like that this stuff
just means it doesn't last.
It wasn't.
It didn't say luxury, it was um, I forget what it was yeah, you
legit put a little water in itwas in a metal tin instead of
the plastic tin.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Like even today.
I was like okay, this is fromlast night, did you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
ever try Murray's.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You have to heat it up before you put it on, and
then you can't like take it outof your hair.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I used to just get pimples all up in there.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
By three showers, you finally get it.
I used to just get pimples allup in there.
By three showers, you finallyget it.
I used to just get pimples up.
Three weeks later you're likeoh man, I got to reapply my
Murray's.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, ari was showing me the video of a girl who used
super glue for her hair andthen had to like she went to
like urgent care.
Of course this happened in New.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Orleans.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And the funny part is like.
Part is like I saw this videoand they saw the sign for
Ochsner.
It was Ochsner's in New Orleans, right, they're not like
throughout the country.
And I was like, yeah, and shewas just like I knew something
like this would only happen inNew Orleans.
She had super glued her hair toget like the fine sheen and
(02:44):
they couldn't wash it off andthey went to urgent care and
it's like talking about weeksand ended up spending thousands
for some surgeon out incalifornia or maybe even arizona
I don't know the details, butthey use a special formula and
it took four hours for a surgeonto wash out super glue from
(03:08):
this lady's hair I was wonderinglike yeah, I was wondering what
they like.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I don't even know.
I gotta wash out.
After some washes, I gotta lookthat up and then we'll make
videos, but like it's deadtissue it's dead tissue, so it
probably stays stuck togetherand, like what people don't know
, is even Dermabond's likepretty much super glue.
That's what we use in theoperating room.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's like it's the non-toxic I'm going to like.
I don't know.
I'm willing to offer Dermabondcornrows.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I've dealt with glue with fake eyelashes and people
coming in and they get glue intheir eyes and they get all
messed up because they do itthemselves.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But did her hair look good.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I've seen people have like I've seen, Does it look
bad?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I don't know, does it ?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
get flaky?
I don't think so.
That's the problem.
It doesn't flake at all.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I've had to cut eyelids apart.
Yeah, ooh.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, I, eyelids apart, yeah, oh well, I, I could
see that.
But like I wonder, like if you,once you take it off, you
probably like peel off, like allthe skin, because all that skin
that usually comes off you'renot taking off, so it's like all
stuck in there, right?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
yeah, or you, just because when you shower but like
I, I know like they reallyshould just shave that lady's
head.
Don't super glue your headthat's all we got the mustache.
I guess it would.
It would work good for thosemustaches if you're about to
(04:37):
lose your hair and you have areceding hairline, except like
which I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Which I don't have.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I have proceeding hairlines.
It's encroaching my eyebrowsalmost.
But if that is your problem,just super glue it there.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It'll keep it there for a long time, yeah,
especially if you pot it over orwhatever.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, part yeah, part it over.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, if you do that, then yeah and once you grow it
out enough and then pot it overlike that, it probably won't go
away for years if you superglueit there.
That is true Superglue orGorilla Glue.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They're probably the same.
Yeah, Gorilla's the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Matters which one's on sale.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, gorilla's going to give you the better look, I
think.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I don't know.
That's a decision to be made.
Why did they name it Gorilla?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Crew.
Just look at the packaging.
Gorilla looks more likeMurray's, I'd go with.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Gorilla Dude, you're sold on Gorilla.
Gorilla is way more expensive.
Murray's is like the cheapestpomade you can buy and it's the
densest stuff.
They dug into the core of theearth to find Murray's hair
pomade.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Could you cook with that?
It's like is it like tallow?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
No, have we talked about the I think we've talked
about the Vaseline guy.
Yeah, have we here.
Who P Diddy?
No, no, the OG Vaseline guy no,did he?
No?
No, the OG Vaseline guy.
No, I, the dude that inventedVaseline, ate a tablespoon of
Vaseline a day just to tellpeople how good it was for you,
(06:13):
and we're talking about 1800sEngland.
He made a ton of money fromcreating Vaseline itself, but he
continued to eat Vaseline onetablespoon a day.
I'm guessing he probably waslike just pounding more.
He just didn't want to seem tooweird.
So he's like I only eat atablespoon.
(06:33):
The dude was pounding likepounds of vaseline probably
lived to 95 in 1800s englandwhere 95 95 nowadays it would be
good.
And he was way overweight.
But like in 1800s england, whenhe did it, the average life
(06:53):
expectancy for a male was 35.
Yeah, there would be like livingto like 175 years old so should
we be eating vaseline?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
We have to do a study .
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Did he live through a tablespoon of Vaseline, not
quite black death.
That was like 14 or 1600s.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
We've cracked the age-proof code.
Age-proof.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Vaseline, eat Vaseline, eat, vaseline.
But they probably put so manychemicals in it now that you?
that is true, it's not pure,just petroleum jelly yeah, I
miss those days when I couldjust get petroleum jelly where,
where I could just pound it likeice cream so repeat, was he
(07:38):
selling it as he was making hisfrench fries product?
Like no, he wasn't, but he waslike this stuff is that good
that you can eat it?
And it's good for you.
It's amazing I haven't I, Ihaven't like done a documentary
on him and try to you haven'ttried vaseline.
Do a quick chat dude, I've beenlike I've been questioning it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I should ask my sons how it tastes, because they both
like to eat it, butunfortunately paste, because I
got tubs and tubs of it at home.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Unfortunately, paste doesn't have the same effect
because everybody eats paste.
Growing up, yeah, still can'tbelieve paste was new when we
got to the US it's like cottagecheese.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, it was just like dude I looked at it, I was
like I could see why people ateit.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I tried a little bit just because I was like it looks
just like the mashed potatoesthey're serving in the cafeteria
so almost tastes the same.
How's it gonna taste it better,smelt better dude, if you just
coat it with vaseline, it wouldhave been better for you the uh
powdered.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I wonder if it made everything slip through his
digestive tract.
With Vaseline it would havebeen better for you the powder.
I wonder if it made everythingslip through his digestive tract
.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'm serious the hot tea didn't even affect.
Yeah, all the stuff that wasgoing to kill him.
Because, like a lot of peoplefucking died of diarrhea back
then, like cholera was like thenumber one killer for a hundred
years.
So it's like, oh, you can't seethis, you got to go on, see
(09:13):
your way through, like just thatactually makes sense.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Now people go and get colonics, but his was probably.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, it was his natural, Like you don't need
colonics, you don't even need inlike your colonoscopy you don't
need.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
He probably didn't have leaky gut because that
cover coated the leakiness he,he would also have like the most
, the smoothest colonoscopy ever.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
The camera just glides all the way up.
It's like dude, you're at mymouth, now Go back.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
What are you looking at?
I don't know.
I just checked Vaseline guymeme because it's the first
thing that happened.
It's not a meme.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I know, I know.
Just look.
Inventor of Vaseline or creatorof Vaseline, we're supposed to
talk about testosterone.
Robert Cheeseburger, completewellness, vaseline.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
His name was Cheesebro.
Yeah yeah, g's bro is known.
Consuming.
Leaving it contributed to hislongevity it's anecdotal data,
yeah, but but it was.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It was made purely.
Right now it's likemanufactured.
So it's like.
You know, like some of themcome with scent, I think my wife
put it on the baby, the scentedone, and it burns them on the
skin.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
So I think we do a line of Vaseline petroleum jelly
products.
That's what Vaseline is, pure,get it organic.
I don't know what's organicabout petroleum jelly, but the
flavoring is what we need tonail.
And we do it with whateverorganic mangosteen or exotic
(11:04):
pineapple jackfruit and do aflavored line of Vaseline and
say it is not made for oralconsumption.
But also, on the other side,come on here and be like have
you guys tried the pineappleVaseline?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I think there's a line of revenue over there they
make a lot of things smell good.
The kids always try to eat itLike that clay, the Play-Doh Not
Play-Doh, but they have organicclay that's like that.
Couldn't smell more like candyand five different flavors of
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candy.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Put this in your mouth, try it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Gumball drop Legos for your little ones.
They smelled so good, like thegreen apple one.
I was like, damn, I want to eatthat thing.
It was so green.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Did you try it?
No, you don't need to lie.
I've tried some stuff.
I've tried cat food.
I'm like what am I eating?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
My son walks around and picks up the dog food,
fights with the dog for the dogfood which one?
It is kind of human foodbecause we cook it.
He gets sous vide vegetables.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, our pets eat better than we eat.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, like the amount of honey nut Cheerios we
crushed was not good for us wewe had that so much it started
tasting like piss yeah, I knowabout you like oh yeah, I was
just like I'm never I don't knowwhat kind of honey they put on
that shit it was horrible, butit was like every day for like
(12:49):
two years in a row it's like Iam never eating honey nut
cheerios ever again.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, but it's on sale yeah I don't understand how
there's still a full aisle ofcereal cereal is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, you're right about that, but you got to keep
the farmers cereal's probably.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
cereal's probably taking a huge hit, though, oh,
I'm sure.
But, still, but like I don'tknow, Relatively, For us?
Yeah, but like for you know, adifferent level of income that's
like what you live on.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
There's still whole aisles of cereal and chips, yeah
plus breakfast is.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I mean, I feel like you could easily resort to
cereal and trying to get kids toeat breakfast, so you got to
make it Anytime I eat cereal.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I feel hungry.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Oatmeal a little more full, but still feel hungry, or
I need lunch before 12.
I generally just don't eatbreakfast.
Yeah, never like, really like.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
probably because the honey nut not like tasting like
piss thing like it's just avariation of eggs, or then you
start making.
You know, I think that's all itis.
Is I eat?
Breakfast now because, anez butI damn it, it's like she wants
(14:12):
breakfast, which is good, but Inever, yeah, I never before.
Plus, obviously, we need tomake food for the kids too.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What are the ducks that are force-fed?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Oh, the po-ba Frogwa Sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Frogwa, frogwa, frogwa, frogwa the po-boy,
po-boy, I've had it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I mean, my Tunisian buddy used to bring foie gras
from Tunisia to the island andit was phenomenal, it was so
good.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Why was he bringing it from Tunisia to the island?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Because that's where it was from.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
What's about Tunisia?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
It was Tunisian and mean they have french good.
Yeah, they have good good food.
They had good foie gras.
It was freaking great.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
It was just feeding too it was just delicious.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
We just eat foie gras straight.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's like I can't help myself.
If I see it on the menu, Iorder it.
It's.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
If it's good that stuff was better than anything
I've ever had.
I mean, it was probably like $5cans.
He's like oh yeah, I buy ithere too.
It's not that much, it'sprobably human-fed After the
Arab Spring Tunisian frog wallgot a lot tastier no rules now,
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no rulersier.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
No rules now, no rulers, no rules.
All right, let's get into it.
So another natural remedy uh,they found out to work pretty
well for certain diseases isfecal transplants.
Yeah, have you guys tried it?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
no, well, when I was in general surgery, it was just
coming about where you know youlike, because people would get c
diff and then we'd have to dofecal transfer, and the way they
were doing it was gettingdonated poop and um from family
members and doing an enema inthese patients.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh, that's nice, they did enemas.
They eat shit now.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Now, I think they can put it in capsules, right?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
They do, they put it in capsules and they take it.
You literally eat shit.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, you eat shit.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
That's way better than what they do, obviously, or
way better.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
not, it repopulates the microbiome, because when
these patients are sick, theirmicrobiome, because when these
patients are sick, theirmicrobiomes changed and C diff
takes over and it's either likedo this, like pretty her, like
extensive surgery, and well,it's antibiotics.
But a lot of these people endup getting like toxic megacolon
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and you have to remove theirentire colon and then you're
left with ostomy.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Have ostomies.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, ostomy, and you almost can't really even
reverse that.
But a lot of the patients weredying from this and Arizona
actually, when I was a generalsurgery resident during the
summertime you would haveendless amounts For a resident.
You get a lot of experienceremoving entire colons, but for
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the patients it wasn't goodbecause they were critical in
the ICU and you know.
Sometimes they'd get better andsometimes we'd tell them
there's 95% chance you're goingto die, or to the family, the
patients would be intubated.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, there's 95% chance that you would die.
You've got to look up picturesof toxic megacolon no, I know
toxic megacolon.
It's like literally this big,there's 95% chance you're going
to die.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Once they get toxic megacolon, right?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, even if we remove your colon, so you have
5% chance of survival.
And some people would want usto do everything for their
family member, so we'd removetheir colon, but a lot of people
would succumb to it becausethey were already so sick.
They were on three different uhpressers, they were intubated,
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they were already very sick andand these are very sick people
it's not like your normal,healthy patient.
They were already sick.
They were in the hospital forsepsis or antibiotics for one
reason or another.
Or they were in there not evensepsis or antibiotics for one
reason or another, or they werein there not even with
antibiotics.
You could get it just like frombeing immunosuppressed.
And the reason it's called Cdiff is C diff is the bacteria
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that overgrows and overpopulatesthe colon and produces these
endotoxins.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I thought that was short for C differently.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Fasthidium difficile.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, it was a very sick patient.
You're like, ah, another one,you know, like we'd see it
especially during the summertime, and like patients get it at
nursing homes and especiallywhen you're immunosuppressed,
like you can pass it on from oneperson to another.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Oh yeah, patients get it at nursing homes, and
especially when you'reimmunosuppressed.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
like you can pass it on from one person to another.
Oh yeah, easily.
Yeah yeah, I was on my justmedicine rotation.
Oh, this is good, it was justlike 10 rooms side by side.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
A nurse or somebody just passed C diff to every
single patient in 10 rooms sideby side.
Yeah, you just see the.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So precautions, yeah, it's definitely calmed down
because I think the fecaltransplants just it works
wonders, and like these people.
I I think it's pretty quickturnaround.
I haven't had to deal with thepatients like over 15 years, but
like like I hear like theyrecover pretty quickly, yeah,
and it works really well forinflammatory bowel disease and
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you took care of those patientsin general surgery.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
They're just in and out of the hospital, especially
with the severe ones ulcerativecolitis or Crohn's disease.
Again, it sets them microbiomesright.
So you stop eating away at yourown tissue and it's just the
ones I saw have had such aremarkable recovery.
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Where it's like Crohn's isreally bad and Crohn's 20 years
ago is just like dude.
I'm sorry you got Crohn's, yeah, and we'll just operate you as
much as we can.
But I don't know if end of theday, you're going to be better.
You're going to be like hookedon narcotics.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You're going to have 20 surgeries.
Most of them were depressed andall sorts of antidepressants
and all sorts of things withCrohn's.
Yeah, you know who has Crohn's,who Doesn't?
Mr Beast have Crohn's?
Mr Beast has Crohn's, I think,mr.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Beast, are you out there?
You have Crohn's.
You want to come on here?
No, I'm almost 100% sure.
Yes, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You're right, yeah, but I don't know.
So maggots, maggots for plasticsurgery.
Like you know, some patientscome with maggots on their legs,
which isn't a good thing.
But um once you, they're sortof used to debride the wounds.
Yeah, so you could put medicalmaggots on wounds to kind of eat
away at dead tissue.
It's dead tissue, right?
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They, they eat dead tissue.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Selectively eat dead tissue, which is nice, yeah,
thanks, so, maggots, it's usedas yeah, wound care.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You could either take them to the or or, if they're
that sick, you just put themaggots on for them to eat away
at the dead tissue it goes backto, like, the ancient times how
about leeches?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
leeches are to suck blood.
Yeah, so like we domicrosurgery, we hook up
arteries and veins for our flaps.
But there's certain things,like when people replant or
place the air back on and can'thook the vessels back up.
If it's large portions they canget congested or fingers.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You put a leech on there um to help with with
venous outflow until you buildcollateral flow.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So what they so, what the leeches do, and they
usually stay on for seven to tendays, and it's got to have
adequate enough blood flow.
If you don't have good bloodflow then the leeches won't
stick on, um so you need to goback to the operative.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Huh, so it's already so in the case of no blood flow,
say like necrotizing fasciitis.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Is it useless?
No, no, no, leeches are used.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's not gonna help leeches are used on flops okay
just literally just venouscongestion.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, that's it some people put them on the face and
stuff like yeah, because I'veseen it before.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
That's why I was at.
That's why I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So, with leeches what they do, they also secrete
something to prevent bloodclotting.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Kind of like heparin, they got it.
So that's Hirsutin, hirsutinyeah, so that's one of the ways.
Yeah, yeah, so that's one ofthe ways.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But you also got to worry about bacterial infections
with leeches.
So you're put on antibiotics.
So then you got to worry aboutC diff.
So bringing it all together,but no, they stay on antibiotics
, the leeches usually by 7 to 10days.
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You can take them off as longas you see good venous outflow.
Of course bringing on leechesisn't a normal thing all the
time, but for some prettysevered fingers especially we
just had July 4th.
So firework injuries whereyou're going to have a tough
time finding venous or the veinsare just too small to hook up
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okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But if it's a large vein and you need leeches then
that vein's probably going to godown.
Yeah, the um I did there.
There's a patient that needed aflap to cover down here after
an APR or abdominal you know,perineal resection.
(24:15):
Yeah, and the flap was gettingcongested so they were getting
leashes and I'd spent the wholenight because the nurses were
just like.
This leech took off.
We tried to put a cup on thereand keep it on there.
I'm literally the majority ofthe night on call.
(24:36):
I'm chasing leeches left andright in this unit and you just
see the blood trails and you'relike what the hell?
There's nobody else, that canjust be like okay, the leeches
follow the blood trail.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, you'd have to come up with different
contraptions, especially if youwanted it to localize to the
area that's not receivingadequate blood.
Otherwise they're going to goon the normal skin and get blood
out.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
So you've got to kind of square them off so they're
not.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Make sure they stay in the same area yeah, uh, these
leashes definitely knew, theywere just like get away from
this butthole.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Is michael j fox still alive?
Yeah.
So if you see him you should golike just smoke a cigarette and
blow it in his face.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I took some nicotine before coming in my parkinson's.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
They keep saying everything with dopamine and how
it relates to, like mentalillness or mental wellness.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I think it's a little bit generalized yeah just just
like all the pharmaceuticalsyeah, like, even you know, like
test fennel scene, which we'vetalked about before, that they
were giving to dementia patientsand they probably used it in
Parkinson's and the thing is itinhibits dopamine uptake.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So when you say that it inhibits uptake, so it means
it's available to be used up bythe receptors.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, and it's serotonin, dopamine,
noradrenaline, and so what theyfound out was people were losing
too much weight using thisstuff.
So they stopped the studies onAlzheimer's and dementia because
, even though it could, work onthat.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
They don't want them losing weight, remembering how
they got it sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So bleach is really used in a lot of medical things
so one thing is for wound care.
A lot of the stuff diluted downbleach to clean the wounds.
It actually works well againstMRSA.
Um and when, when people haveMRSA they have to go home and
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which is MRSA or methylenemethicillin resistant?
Uh, staph aureus, which is apretty like resistant bacteria,
causes infections and likesometimes it can be spread from
someone that you know.
Like I had a kid that got itfrom their uncle, being like
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coming from jail, had MRSA andhe had like all these abscesses
on legs and stuff and we're likehow the hell does this kid have
abscesses and his uncle wouldcome home from jail and had MRSA
infections previously and justspread through the house.
So you have to kind of cleanthe house with bleach.
But for wound care it's used tokind of kill that MRSA.
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Use it in packing wash,everything Dakin's yeah, and you
can get at different strengths.
Now vosh is also, which is evenI don't know what they.
I think it's baking soda anddacons mixed together.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
It should be baking soda and vinegar.
That stuff helps me clean stuff.
Yeah, that's very strong inkilling bacteria.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, that's very strong in killing bacteria.
The other thing that it's usedfor like even if you get a
silicone implant rupture, thestuff that's used to clean it
out I was like, oh, this stuffsmells like bleach.
It was like bleach.
It kind of cleans up thatsilicone inside the breast
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pocket and also use it if youhave a patient that has issues
with capsule contractor andstuff that it's used for that,
but that's irrigation.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
That's irrigation.
You're not drinking it, yeah,yeah, do not.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Drinking it.
It's chemically toxic.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
It's going to cause ulcers esophagitis.
It's going to cause you ulcers,ulcers esophagitis in your
lining.
Yeah, so bleach is not likevaseline at all.
Do not consume it, or yeah it's.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
You know how many people, and I think it was like
150 to 200 people in iran, diedduring covid.
They were drinking bleach.
It was like a I don't know likea big thing, I guess a group of
people just really bleach.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't drink bleach yeah, even I
think even in the us they weredoing it yeah, they were yeah
yeah there was a certainpresident that asked about it
air candling I don't know whatthe benefits would be, but I
guess people are doing it toremove wax from their ears.
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They're doing what.
I don't know what the processis.
It's just like you're stickinga candle in your ear and using
that to grab the wax.
You shouldn't be cleaning yourears anyways?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, but you know what works well is, you know, a
50-50 mix of hydrogen peroxideand water and you put it in
there, you let it sit for likethree to five minutes and then
turn your head, let that drainout and put it in the other ear.
Or isopropyl alcohol.
But peroxide works a lot better.
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I think Both are diluted.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Most of the air drops , that's the main chemical, but
you shouldn't do it that often.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
No.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
There's a lot of people, myself included, get
hooked on q-tips yeah becauselike just that sensation, but
anytime you clean it it'scausing irritation.
Yeah, and that irritation makesyou want to like itch it more
yeah, so you're like, oh, I'mgonna stick something in there
and scratch that itch.
Yeah, uh, so it's just likethis negative feedback that you
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keep doing it.
So if air candling prevents youfrom doing that, then just, I
guess, stick a candle in yourear which side?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
of the candle.
Are you sticking it in?
I'm just looking.
I don't know.
I think it's the.
I think you light one end, thenyou put the other end.
It supposedly makes a suction.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
That pulls your wax out, but the picture's hilarious
.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
It's just like this okay, what else doesn't work?
The tapeworm diet.
Back in my day, if you got thetapeworm, you would just sit
there with a raw piece ofchicken on your tongue, wait for
the tapeworm to come out to eatthat raw piece of chicken, and
then you just pull it right outof your system how are the
people are people are doingparasite cleanses.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So yeah, the tapeworm to lose.
Lose weight.
It's gonna just make youmalnourished because the
tapeworm is going to take up allthe nutrition oh wait, the
tapeworm diet is consumingtapeworm to help it, I think
it's for weight loss, that's gotto be it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's the only thing that makes sense.
You consume a tapeworm so iteats everything, and then you
shit out a massive worm.
That sounds like the worstthing.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Well, once they implant, they probably put eggs
in.
You're done, You're done.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
You're done son.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Then you got tapeworms everywhere.
It's going to be tough to.
You'll have worms coming out ofyour butthole.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's like hey, back in the day, back in ancient
times, people were trying tofight this off.
Now you're just consuming it,yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
At least I'm skinny.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
But now it's the craziest parasite cleanse.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
So you're trying to get rid of those worms.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, you usually should.
You shouldn't carry manyparasites.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, it's a bad idea .
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Don't drink turpentine.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Don't drink bleach.
How is it making it anywhere?
Stick to Vaseline, please.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
How does turpentine even make it past your, doesn't
it just sit in your stomach?
Wouldn't it like?
How's it going to pass throughanything?
Isn't it like?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It's a liquid, isn't it too viscous or?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
you think it's going to get pushed?
Through I think it'll getpushed through.
You think?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
so yeah, I don't know .
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I actually haven't seen turpentine ever before in
my life it sounds like somethinglike it's the stuff you put on
asphalt, right?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, I think it's, I thought so, I thought you clean
off the.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Thinning oil-based paints and as a raw material for
the chemical industry.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
How about?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
What's this stuff called?
You should not be drinking itIf anything is just described as
something for the chemicalindustry.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It's toxic't, don't eat, except again, unless it's
vaseline.
We're going to get back to youyeah with reports um, so there
was.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
what was it?
There's a thermogenic that, um,when they were making the
atomic bombs or it was a painton like bombs and these people
that were working on it werelosing all this weight and they
were like eating the paint, thepaint causes this huge
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thermogenic response.
Is it DMV?
I forget what it's called.
Tony huge took it and it couldit like causes your like such a
thermogenic response.
It could kill you, like if youdon't sounds good and some, some
people a huge percentage ofpeople will die taking it.
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This guy just injected himselfwith it, like in the.
I think it's in thebodybuilding world.
They actually use it.
Um, I forget what it's called,but yeah it was.
They found like people werelosing like crazy amounts of
weight taking this, this stuff,and they were it wasn't a type
of paint they were covering likepots and pans, with no, it was
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bombs.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It was like there was a certain subset of paints yeah
they were using for, likeceramic yeah, pots, and pans um
but that had cyanide I thinkyeah, and it was killing people,
though this is no, this istotally different.
This is a totally differentthing.
That's killing people, yeah,but stuff in in persian folklore
, like there's a totallydifferent thing.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's killing people , yeah, but stuff in Persian
folklore, like there's a lot ofstuff coming out nowadays that
Jump rope is the best exerciseever.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, if you want to lift 255 years old, eat Vaseline
and do jump rope.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But things that, like you know, we did in you know,
like pomegranates.
Pomegranates have become such abig thing.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
They're good, yeah, they're good.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
They got a lot of flavonoids and also, like your
urolithin A that comes from them.
That's like a mitochondrialstimulant.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, so you got that it comes from a mitochondrial
stimulant.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
You've got that.
You've got tart cherry juicewhich we would drink it.
We eat a lot of sour stuff, alot of sour cherries, which do
work.
It's used because of itsmineral content as well, the
tart cherry juice, I think it'sgot a lot of magnesium too.
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Yeah, for sleep, uh.
And then you got barberries,which are your berberine.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Um, it's used for glucose control um, what else
the?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
those were big three, three that are in the longevity
medicine pretty highly and theyactually work.
And you know there are homeremedies that your grandma told
you to take and you're like, ah,whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
They actually work.
It's what's good for you.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Like yeah, what do you know?
It's tasty.
I'll have that, yeah, and somemore, I think pomegranate.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I'll have that.
Yeah, and some more, I think,pomegranate.
I was eating like a pomegranatea day.
Whenever I eat a pomegranate aday, even during the wintertime,
I wasn't getting sick.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
It was okay yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I just I personally don't get sick.
Like I get sick once every.
Now that I've said it, I'll belike I can't breathe.
But even when Ari was in pre-KI never got sick and Sarah and
Ari both got COVID and I stillremember that's.
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When you had the drive-uptesting I was like this is good,
I'm working my butt off.
So I was was like this is agood excuse to like just test
positive and have five days offof work.
I went up there and I wasnegative.
I was like how no way cansomeone give me COVID.
I need a couple days off fromwork.
But, um, I don't know if it'sall the citrus pomegranate or
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whatever.
you look so white.
Did you do some bloodlettingroutine?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
No, he came in even with the surgical cap.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
He had these three scratches on his forehead.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I was like cat or son .
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh, that's why you did the curl to cover it up.
No, I didn't even mean tothat's Suavecito curls yeah.
Suavecito scrub, cap curl.
Are you using suavecito?
Yeah, of course are you thebest.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Uh, I don't use it every day.
Um, I went back to it.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I keep getting the 32 yeah, I get the massive one.
It really is the best product.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
The price point like I was using, like the american,
and it was like I was justrunning out for like a week.
I was like, come on, now I'mgoing to go back to Murray's.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Are you guys using normal, Are you going firm or
are you going meté Al?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
dente you firm.
Yeah, I use firm or normal.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I think it binds the new I.
I had the.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
They have like their, like luxury one, two or their
high-end one I used that, but I,I didn't like that this stuff
just means it doesn't last.
It wasn't.
It didn't say luxury, it was um, I forget what it was yeah, you
legit put a little water in itwas in a metal tin instead of
the plastic tin.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Like even today.
I was like okay, this is fromlast night, did you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
ever try Murray's.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You have to heat it up before you put it on, and
then you can't like take it outof your hair.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I used to just get pimples all up in there.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
By three showers, you finally get it.
I used to just get pimples allup in there.
By three showers, you finallyget it.
I used to just get pimples up.
Three weeks later you're likeoh man, I got to reapply my
Murray's.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, ari was showing me the video of a girl who used
super glue for her hair andthen had to like she went to
like urgent care.
Of course this happened in New.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Orleans.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And the funny part is like.
Part is like I saw this videoand they saw the sign for
Ochsner.
It was Ochsner's in New Orleans, right, they're not like
throughout the country.
And I was like, yeah, and shewas just like I knew something
like this would only happen inNew Orleans.
She had super glued her hair toget like the fine sheen and
(02:44):
they couldn't wash it off andthey went to urgent care and
it's like talking about weeksand ended up spending thousands
for some surgeon out incalifornia or maybe even arizona
I don't know the details, butthey use a special formula and
it took four hours for a surgeonto wash out super glue from
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this lady's hair I was wonderinglike yeah, I was wondering what
they like.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I don't even know.
I gotta wash out.
After some washes, I gotta lookthat up and then we'll make
videos, but like it's deadtissue it's dead tissue, so it
probably stays stuck togetherand, like what people don't know
, is even Dermabond's likepretty much super glue.
That's what we use in theoperating room.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's like it's the non-toxic I'm going to like.
I don't know.
I'm willing to offer Dermabondcornrows.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I've dealt with glue with fake eyelashes and people
coming in and they get glue intheir eyes and they get all
messed up because they do itthemselves.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
But did her hair look good.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I've seen people have like I've seen, Does it look
bad?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I don't know, does it ?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
get flaky?
I don't think so.
That's the problem.
It doesn't flake at all.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I've had to cut eyelids apart.
Yeah, ooh.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, I, eyelids apart, yeah, oh well, I, I could
see that.
But like I wonder, like if you,once you take it off, you
probably like peel off, like allthe skin, because all that skin
that usually comes off you'renot taking off, so it's like all
stuck in there, right?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
yeah, or you, just because when you shower but like
I, I know like they reallyshould just shave that lady's
head.
Don't super glue your headthat's all we got the mustache.
I guess it would.
It would work good for thosemustaches if you're about to
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lose your hair and you have areceding hairline, except like
which I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Which I don't have.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I have proceeding hairlines.
It's encroaching my eyebrowsalmost.
But if that is your problem,just super glue it there.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It'll keep it there for a long time, yeah,
especially if you pot it over orwhatever.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, part yeah, part it over.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, if you do that, then yeah and once you grow it
out enough and then pot it overlike that, it probably won't go
away for years if you superglueit there.
That is true Superglue orGorilla Glue.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They're probably the same.
Yeah, Gorilla's the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Matters which one's on sale.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, gorilla's going to give you the better look, I
think.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I don't know.
That's a decision to be made.
Why did they name it Gorilla?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Crew.
Just look at the packaging.
Gorilla looks more likeMurray's, I'd go with.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Gorilla Dude, you're sold on Gorilla.
Gorilla is way more expensive.
Murray's is like the cheapestpomade you can buy and it's the
densest stuff.
They dug into the core of theearth to find Murray's hair
pomade.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Could you cook with that?
It's like is it like tallow?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
No, have we talked about the I think we've talked
about the Vaseline guy.
Yeah, have we here.
Who P Diddy?
No, no, the OG Vaseline guy no,did he?
No?
No, the OG Vaseline guy.
No, I, the dude that inventedVaseline, ate a tablespoon of
Vaseline a day just to tellpeople how good it was for you,
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and we're talking about 1800sEngland.
He made a ton of money fromcreating Vaseline itself, but he
continued to eat Vaseline onetablespoon a day.
I'm guessing he probably waslike just pounding more.
He just didn't want to seem tooweird.
So he's like I only eat atablespoon.
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The dude was pounding likepounds of vaseline probably
lived to 95 in 1800s englandwhere 95 95 nowadays it would be
good.
And he was way overweight.
But like in 1800s england, whenhe did it, the average life
(06:53):
expectancy for a male was 35.
Yeah, there would be like livingto like 175 years old so should
we be eating vaseline?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
We have to do a study .
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Did he live through a tablespoon of Vaseline, not
quite black death.
That was like 14 or 1600s.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
We've cracked the age-proof code.
Age-proof.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Vaseline, eat Vaseline, eat, vaseline.
But they probably put so manychemicals in it now that you?
that is true, it's not pure,just petroleum jelly yeah, I
miss those days when I couldjust get petroleum jelly where,
where I could just pound it likeice cream so repeat, was he
(07:38):
selling it as he was making hisfrench fries product?
Like no, he wasn't, but he waslike this stuff is that good
that you can eat it?
And it's good for you.
It's amazing I haven't I, Ihaven't like done a documentary
on him and try to you haven'ttried vaseline.
Do a quick chat dude, I've beenlike I've been questioning it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I should ask my sons how it tastes, because they both
like to eat it, butunfortunately paste, because I
got tubs and tubs of it at home.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Unfortunately, paste doesn't have the same effect
because everybody eats paste.
Growing up, yeah, still can'tbelieve paste was new when we
got to the US it's like cottagecheese.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, it was just like dude I looked at it, I was
like I could see why people ateit.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I tried a little bit just because I was like it looks
just like the mashed potatoesthey're serving in the cafeteria
so almost tastes the same.
How's it gonna taste it better,smelt better dude, if you just
coat it with vaseline, it wouldhave been better for you the uh
powdered.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I wonder if it made everything slip through his
digestive tract.
With Vaseline it would havebeen better for you the powder.
I wonder if it made everythingslip through his digestive tract
.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I'm serious the hot tea didn't even affect.
Yeah, all the stuff that wasgoing to kill him.
Because, like a lot of peoplefucking died of diarrhea back
then, like cholera was like thenumber one killer for a hundred
years.
So it's like, oh, you can't seethis, you got to go on, see
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your way through, like just thatactually makes sense.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Now people go and get colonics, but his was probably.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, it was his natural, Like you don't need
colonics, you don't even need inlike your colonoscopy you don't
need.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
He probably didn't have leaky gut because that
cover coated the leakiness he,he would also have like the most
, the smoothest colonoscopy ever.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
The camera just glides all the way up.
It's like dude, you're at mymouth, now Go back.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
What are you looking at?
I don't know.
I just checked Vaseline guymeme because it's the first
thing that happened.
It's not a meme.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I know, I know.
Just look.
Inventor of Vaseline or creatorof Vaseline, we're supposed to
talk about testosterone.
Robert Cheeseburger, completewellness, vaseline.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
His name was Cheesebro.
Yeah yeah, g's bro is known.
Consuming.
Leaving it contributed to hislongevity it's anecdotal data,
yeah, but but it was.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It was made purely.
Right now it's likemanufactured.
So it's like.
You know, like some of themcome with scent, I think my wife
put it on the baby, the scentedone, and it burns them on the
skin.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
So I think we do a line of Vaseline petroleum jelly
products.
That's what Vaseline is, pure,get it organic.
I don't know what's organicabout petroleum jelly, but the
flavoring is what we need tonail.
And we do it with whateverorganic mangosteen or exotic
(11:04):
pineapple jackfruit and do aflavored line of Vaseline and
say it is not made for oralconsumption.
But also, on the other side,come on here and be like have
you guys tried the pineappleVaseline?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I think there's a line of revenue over there they
make a lot of things smell good.
The kids always try to eat itLike that clay, the Play-Doh Not
Play-Doh, but they have organicclay that's like that.
Couldn't smell more like candyand five different flavors of
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candy.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Put this in your mouth, try it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Gumball drop Legos for your little ones.
They smelled so good, like thegreen apple one.
I was like, damn, I want to eatthat thing.
It was so green.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Did you try it?
No, you don't need to lie.
I've tried some stuff.
I've tried cat food.
I'm like what am I eating?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
My son walks around and picks up the dog food,
fights with the dog for the dogfood which one?
It is kind of human foodbecause we cook it.
He gets sous vide vegetables.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, our pets eat better than we eat.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, like the amount of honey nut Cheerios we
crushed was not good for us wewe had that so much it started
tasting like piss yeah, I knowabout you like oh yeah, I was
just like I'm never I don't knowwhat kind of honey they put on
that shit it was horrible, butit was like every day for like
(12:49):
two years in a row it's like Iam never eating honey nut
cheerios ever again.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, but it's on sale yeah I don't understand how
there's still a full aisle ofcereal cereal is kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, you're right about that, but you got to keep
the farmers cereal's probably.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
cereal's probably taking a huge hit, though, oh,
I'm sure.
But, still, but like I don'tknow, Relatively, For us?
Yeah, but like for you know, adifferent level of income that's
like what you live on.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
There's still whole aisles of cereal and chips, yeah
plus breakfast is.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I mean, I feel like you could easily resort to
cereal and trying to get kids toeat breakfast, so you got to
make it Anytime I eat cereal.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I feel hungry.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Oatmeal a little more full, but still feel hungry, or
I need lunch before 12.
I generally just don't eatbreakfast.
Yeah, never like, really like.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
probably because the honey nut not like tasting like
piss thing like it's just avariation of eggs, or then you
start making.
You know, I think that's all itis.
Is I eat?
Breakfast now because, anez butI damn it, it's like she wants
(14:12):
breakfast, which is good, but Inever, yeah, I never before.
Plus, obviously, we need tomake food for the kids too.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What are the ducks that are force-fed?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Oh, the po-ba Frogwa Sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Frogwa, frogwa, frogwa, frogwa the po-boy,
po-boy, I've had it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I mean, my Tunisian buddy used to bring foie gras
from Tunisia to the island andit was phenomenal, it was so
good.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Why was he bringing it from Tunisia to the island?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Because that's where it was from.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
What's about Tunisia?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
It was Tunisian and mean they have french good.
Yeah, they have good good food.
They had good foie gras.
It was freaking great.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
It was just feeding too it was just delicious.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
We just eat foie gras straight.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's like I can't help myself.
If I see it on the menu, Iorder it.
It's.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
If it's good that stuff was better than anything
I've ever had.
I mean, it was probably like $5cans.
He's like oh yeah, I buy ithere too.
It's not that much, it'sprobably human-fed After the
Arab Spring Tunisian frog wallgot a lot tastier no rules now,
(15:32):
no rulersier.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
No rules now, no rulers, no rules.
All right, let's get into it.
So another natural remedy uh,they found out to work pretty
well for certain diseases isfecal transplants.
Yeah, have you guys tried it?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
no, well, when I was in general surgery, it was just
coming about where you know youlike, because people would get c
diff and then we'd have to dofecal transfer, and the way they
were doing it was gettingdonated poop and um from family
members and doing an enema inthese patients.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh, that's nice, they did enemas.
They eat shit now.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Now, I think they can put it in capsules, right?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
They do, they put it in capsules and they take it.
You literally eat shit.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, you eat shit.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
That's way better than what they do, obviously, or
way better.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
not, it repopulates the microbiome, because when
these patients are sick, theirmicrobiome, because when these
patients are sick, theirmicrobiomes changed and C diff
takes over and it's either likedo this, like pretty her, like
extensive surgery, and well,it's antibiotics.
But a lot of these people endup getting like toxic megacolon
(16:46):
and you have to remove theirentire colon and then you're
left with ostomy.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Have ostomies.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, ostomy, and you almost can't really even
reverse that.
But a lot of the patients weredying from this and Arizona
actually, when I was a generalsurgery resident during the
summertime you would haveendless amounts For a resident.
You get a lot of experienceremoving entire colons, but for
(17:10):
the patients it wasn't goodbecause they were critical in
the ICU and you know.
Sometimes they'd get better andsometimes we'd tell them
there's 95% chance you're goingto die, or to the family, the
patients would be intubated.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, there's 95% chance that you would die.
You've got to look up picturesof toxic megacolon no, I know
toxic megacolon.
It's like literally this big,there's 95% chance you're going
to die.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Once they get toxic megacolon, right?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, even if we remove your colon, so you have
5% chance of survival.
And some people would want usto do everything for their
family member, so we'd removetheir colon, but a lot of people
would succumb to it becausethey were already so sick.
They were on three different uhpressers, they were intubated,
(18:00):
they were already very sick andand these are very sick people
it's not like your normal,healthy patient.
They were already sick.
They were in the hospital forsepsis or antibiotics for one
reason or another.
Or they were in there not evensepsis or antibiotics for one
reason or another, or they werein there not even with
antibiotics.
You could get it just like frombeing immunosuppressed.
And the reason it's called Cdiff is C diff is the bacteria
(18:26):
that overgrows and overpopulatesthe colon and produces these
endotoxins.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I thought that was short for C differently.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Fasthidium difficile.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, it was a very sick patient.
You're like, ah, another one,you know, like we'd see it
especially during the summertime, and like patients get it at
nursing homes and especiallywhen you're immunosuppressed,
like you can pass it on from oneperson to another.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Oh yeah, patients get it at nursing homes, and
especially when you'reimmunosuppressed.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
like you can pass it on from one person to another.
Oh yeah, easily.
Yeah yeah, I was on my justmedicine rotation.
Oh, this is good, it was justlike 10 rooms side by side.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
A nurse or somebody just passed C diff to every
single patient in 10 rooms sideby side.
Yeah, you just see the.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
So precautions, yeah, it's definitely calmed down
because I think the fecaltransplants just it works
wonders, and like these people.
I I think it's pretty quickturnaround.
I haven't had to deal with thepatients like over 15 years, but
like like I hear like theyrecover pretty quickly, yeah,
and it works really well forinflammatory bowel disease and
(19:40):
you took care of those patientsin general surgery.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
They're just in and out of the hospital, especially
with the severe ones ulcerativecolitis or Crohn's disease.
Again, it sets them microbiomesright.
So you stop eating away at yourown tissue and it's just the
ones I saw have had such aremarkable recovery.
(20:06):
Where it's like Crohn's isreally bad and Crohn's 20 years
ago is just like dude.
I'm sorry you got Crohn's, yeah, and we'll just operate you as
much as we can.
But I don't know if end of theday, you're going to be better.
You're going to be like hookedon narcotics.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You're going to have 20 surgeries.
Most of them were depressed andall sorts of antidepressants
and all sorts of things withCrohn's.
Yeah, you know who has Crohn's,who Doesn't?
Mr Beast have Crohn's?
Mr Beast has Crohn's, I think,mr.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Beast, are you out there?
You have Crohn's.
You want to come on here?
No, I'm almost 100% sure.
Yes, I think you're right.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You're right, yeah, but I don't know.
So maggots, maggots for plasticsurgery.
Like you know, some patientscome with maggots on their legs,
which isn't a good thing.
But um once you, they're sortof used to debride the wounds.
Yeah, so you could put medicalmaggots on wounds to kind of eat
away at dead tissue.
It's dead tissue, right?
(21:16):
They, they eat dead tissue.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Selectively eat dead tissue, which is nice, yeah,
thanks, so, maggots, it's usedas yeah, wound care.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You could either take them to the or or, if they're
that sick, you just put themaggots on for them to eat away
at the dead tissue it goes backto, like, the ancient times how
about leeches?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
leeches are to suck blood.
Yeah, so like we domicrosurgery, we hook up
arteries and veins for our flaps.
But there's certain things,like when people replant or
place the air back on and can'thook the vessels back up.
If it's large portions they canget congested or fingers.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You put a leech on there um to help with with
venous outflow until you buildcollateral flow.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So what they so, what the leeches do, and they
usually stay on for seven to tendays, and it's got to have
adequate enough blood flow.
If you don't have good bloodflow then the leeches won't
stick on, um so you need to goback to the operative.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Huh, so it's already so in the case of no blood flow,
say like necrotizing fasciitis.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Is it useless?
No, no, no, leeches are used.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's not gonna help leeches are used on flops okay
just literally just venouscongestion.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, that's it some people put them on the face and
stuff like yeah, because I'veseen it before.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
That's why I was at.
That's why I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So, with leeches what they do, they also secrete
something to prevent bloodclotting.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Kind of like heparin, they got it.
So that's Hirsutin, hirsutinyeah, so that's one of the ways.
Yeah, yeah, so that's one ofthe ways.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But you also got to worry about bacterial infections
with leeches.
So you're put on antibiotics.
So then you got to worry aboutC diff.
So bringing it all together,but no, they stay on antibiotics
, the leeches usually by 7 to 10days.
(23:27):
You can take them off as longas you see good venous outflow.
Of course bringing on leechesisn't a normal thing all the
time, but for some prettysevered fingers especially we
just had July 4th.
So firework injuries whereyou're going to have a tough
time finding venous or the veinsare just too small to hook up
(23:49):
okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But if it's a large vein and you need leeches then
that vein's probably going to godown.
Yeah, the um I did there.
There's a patient that needed aflap to cover down here after
an APR or abdominal you know,perineal resection.
(24:15):
Yeah, and the flap was gettingcongested so they were getting
leashes and I'd spent the wholenight because the nurses were
just like.
This leech took off.
We tried to put a cup on thereand keep it on there.
I'm literally the majority ofthe night on call.
(24:36):
I'm chasing leeches left andright in this unit and you just
see the blood trails and you'relike what the hell?
There's nobody else, that canjust be like okay, the leeches
follow the blood trail.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, you'd have to come up with different
contraptions, especially if youwanted it to localize to the
area that's not receivingadequate blood.
Otherwise they're going to goon the normal skin and get blood
out.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
So you've got to kind of square them off so they're
not.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Make sure they stay in the same area yeah, uh, these
leashes definitely knew, theywere just like get away from
this butthole.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Is michael j fox still alive?
Yeah.
So if you see him you should golike just smoke a cigarette and
blow it in his face.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I took some nicotine before coming in my parkinson's.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
They keep saying everything with dopamine and how
it relates to, like mentalillness or mental wellness.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I think it's a little bit generalized yeah just just
like all the pharmaceuticalsyeah, like, even you know, like
test fennel scene, which we'vetalked about before, that they
were giving to dementia patientsand they probably used it in
Parkinson's and the thing is itinhibits dopamine uptake.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So when you say that it inhibits uptake, so it means
it's available to be used up bythe receptors.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yeah, and it's serotonin, dopamine,
noradrenaline, and so what theyfound out was people were losing
too much weight using thisstuff.
So they stopped the studies onAlzheimer's and dementia because
, even though it could, work onthat.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
They don't want them losing weight, remembering how
they got it sorry.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So bleach is really used in a lot of medical things
so one thing is for wound care.
A lot of the stuff diluted downbleach to clean the wounds.
It actually works well againstMRSA.
Um and when, when people haveMRSA they have to go home and
(26:55):
which is MRSA or methylenemethicillin resistant?
Uh, staph aureus, which is apretty like resistant bacteria,
causes infections and likesometimes it can be spread from
someone that you know.
Like I had a kid that got itfrom their uncle, being like
(27:18):
coming from jail, had MRSA andhe had like all these abscesses
on legs and stuff and we're likehow the hell does this kid have
abscesses and his uncle wouldcome home from jail and had MRSA
infections previously and justspread through the house.
So you have to kind of cleanthe house with bleach.
But for wound care it's used tokind of kill that MRSA.
(27:41):
Use it in packing wash,everything Dakin's yeah, and you
can get at different strengths.
Now vosh is also, which is evenI don't know what they.
I think it's baking soda anddacons mixed together.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
It should be baking soda and vinegar.
That stuff helps me clean stuff.
Yeah, that's very strong inkilling bacteria.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, that's very strong in killing bacteria.
The other thing that it's usedfor like even if you get a
silicone implant rupture, thestuff that's used to clean it
out I was like, oh, this stuffsmells like bleach.
It was like bleach.
It kind of cleans up thatsilicone inside the breast
(28:29):
pocket and also use it if youhave a patient that has issues
with capsule contractor andstuff that it's used for that,
but that's irrigation.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
That's irrigation.
You're not drinking it, yeah,yeah, do not.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Drinking it.
It's chemically toxic.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
It's going to cause ulcers esophagitis.
It's going to cause you ulcers,ulcers esophagitis in your
lining.
Yeah, so bleach is not likevaseline at all.
Do not consume it, or yeah it's.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
You know how many people, and I think it was like
150 to 200 people in iran, diedduring covid.
They were drinking bleach.
It was like a I don't know likea big thing, I guess a group of
people just really bleach.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't drink bleach yeah, even I
think even in the us they weredoing it yeah, they were yeah
yeah there was a certainpresident that asked about it
air candling I don't know whatthe benefits would be, but I
guess people are doing it toremove wax from their ears.
(29:33):
They're doing what.
I don't know what the processis.
It's just like you're stickinga candle in your ear and using
that to grab the wax.
You shouldn't be cleaning yourears anyways?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, but you know what works well is, you know, a
50-50 mix of hydrogen peroxideand water and you put it in
there, you let it sit for likethree to five minutes and then
turn your head, let that drainout and put it in the other ear.
Or isopropyl alcohol.
But peroxide works a lot better.
(30:10):
I think Both are diluted.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Most of the air drops , that's the main chemical, but
you shouldn't do it that often.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
No.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
There's a lot of people, myself included, get
hooked on q-tips yeah becauselike just that sensation, but
anytime you clean it it'scausing irritation.
Yeah, and that irritation makesyou want to like itch it more
yeah, so you're like, oh, I'mgonna stick something in there
and scratch that itch.
Yeah, uh, so it's just likethis negative feedback that you
(30:47):
keep doing it.
So if air candling prevents youfrom doing that, then just, I
guess, stick a candle in yourear which side?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
of the candle.
Are you sticking it in?
I'm just looking.
I don't know.
I think it's the.
I think you light one end, thenyou put the other end.
It supposedly makes a suction.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
That pulls your wax out, but the picture's hilarious
.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
It's just like this okay, what else doesn't work?
The tapeworm diet.
Back in my day, if you got thetapeworm, you would just sit
there with a raw piece ofchicken on your tongue, wait for
the tapeworm to come out to eatthat raw piece of chicken, and
then you just pull it right outof your system how are the
people are people are doingparasite cleanses.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
So yeah, the tapeworm to lose.
Lose weight.
It's gonna just make youmalnourished because the
tapeworm is going to take up allthe nutrition oh wait, the
tapeworm diet is consumingtapeworm to help it, I think
it's for weight loss, that's gotto be it.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's the only thing that makes sense.
You consume a tapeworm so iteats everything, and then you
shit out a massive worm.
That sounds like the worstthing.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Well, once they implant, they probably put eggs
in.
You're done, You're done.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
You're done son.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Then you got tapeworms everywhere.
It's going to be tough to.
You'll have worms coming out ofyour butthole.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's like hey, back in the day, back in ancient
times, people were trying tofight this off.
Now you're just consuming it,yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
At least I'm skinny.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
But now it's the craziest parasite cleanse.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
So you're trying to get rid of those worms.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, you usually should.
You shouldn't carry manyparasites.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, it's a bad idea .
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Don't drink turpentine.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Don't drink bleach.
How is it making it anywhere?
Stick to Vaseline, please.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
How does turpentine even make it past your, doesn't
it just sit in your stomach?
Wouldn't it like?
How's it going to pass throughanything?
Isn't it like?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It's a liquid, isn't it too viscous or?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
you think it's going to get pushed?
Through I think it'll getpushed through.
You think?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
so yeah, I don't know .
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I actually haven't seen turpentine ever before in
my life it sounds like somethinglike it's the stuff you put on
asphalt, right?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, I think it's, I thought so, I thought you clean
off the.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Thinning oil-based paints and as a raw material for
the chemical industry.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
How about?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
What's this stuff called?
You should not be drinking itIf anything is just described as
something for the chemicalindustry.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It's toxic't, don't eat, except again, unless it's
vaseline.
We're going to get back to youyeah with reports um, so there
was.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
what was it?
There's a thermogenic that, um,when they were making the
atomic bombs or it was a painton like bombs and these people
that were working on it werelosing all this weight and they
were like eating the paint, thepaint causes this huge
(34:01):
thermogenic response.
Is it DMV?
I forget what it's called.
Tony huge took it and it couldit like causes your like such a
thermogenic response.
It could kill you, like if youdon't sounds good and some, some
people a huge percentage ofpeople will die taking it.
(34:21):
This guy just injected himselfwith it, like in the.
I think it's in thebodybuilding world.
They actually use it.
Um, I forget what it's called,but yeah it was.
They found like people werelosing like crazy amounts of
weight taking this, this stuff,and they were it wasn't a type
of paint they were covering likepots and pans, with no, it was
(34:44):
bombs.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
It was like there was a certain subset of paints yeah
they were using for, likeceramic yeah, pots, and pans um
but that had cyanide I thinkyeah, and it was killing people,
though this is no, this istotally different.
This is a totally differentthing.
That's killing people, yeah,but stuff in in persian folklore
, like there's a totallydifferent thing.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's killing people , yeah, but stuff in Persian
folklore, like there's a lot ofstuff coming out nowadays that
Jump rope is the best exerciseever.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, if you want to lift 255 years old, eat Vaseline
and do jump rope.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But things that, like you know, we did in you know,
like pomegranates.
Pomegranates have become such abig thing.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
They're good, yeah, they're good.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
They got a lot of flavonoids and also, like your
urolithin A that comes from them.
That's like a mitochondrialstimulant.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, so you got that it comes from a mitochondrial
stimulant.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
You've got that.
You've got tart cherry juicewhich we would drink it.
We eat a lot of sour stuff, alot of sour cherries, which do
work.
It's used because of itsmineral content as well, the
tart cherry juice, I think it'sgot a lot of magnesium too.
(36:10):
Yeah, for sleep, uh.
And then you got barberries,which are your berberine.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Um, it's used for glucose control um, what else
the?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
those were big three, three that are in the longevity
medicine pretty highly and theyactually work.
And you know there are homeremedies that your grandma told
you to take and you're like, ah,whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
They actually work.
It's what's good for you.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Like yeah, what do you know?
It's tasty.
I'll have that, yeah, and somemore, I think pomegranate.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I'll have that.
Yeah, and some more, I think,pomegranate.
I was eating like a pomegranatea day.
Whenever I eat a pomegranate aday, even during the wintertime,
I wasn't getting sick.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
It was okay yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
I just I personally don't get sick.
Like I get sick once every.
Now that I've said it, I'll belike I can't breathe.
But even when Ari was in pre-KI never got sick and Sarah and
Ari both got COVID and I stillremember that's.
(37:18):
When you had the drive-uptesting I was like this is good,
I'm working my butt off.
So I was was like this is agood excuse to like just test
positive and have five days offof work.
I went up there and I wasnegative.
I was like how no way cansomeone give me COVID.
I need a couple days off fromwork.
But, um, I don't know if it'sall the citrus pomegranate or
(37:44):
whatever.
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