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May 21, 2025 104 mins

What if your best climbing wasn’t behind you—even at 65?

This episode is a masterclass in longevity, discipline, and duality. Our guest is a rare figure who has spent decades pushing hard at the edge of two very different worlds: as a tenured philosophy professor and a lifelong climber still sending 5.14s.

Bill Ramsey started climbing before sport climbing existed. He trained on treadwalls before they were popular. And today, he still maps out meticulous 8-hour training days—designed not to get stronger, but to stay sharp, adaptive, and resilient.

This isn’t about avoiding aging. It’s about rewriting the rules.

🧗‍♂️ In This Episode, We Cover:

  • Balancing the cerebral and the physical: how philosophy and climbing feed each other—and why he believes doing both makes him better at each
  • The “Pain Box”: his metaphor for rethinking discipline, suffering, and the tradeoffs behind fulfillment
  • What changes (and what doesn’t): honest insight into how the body, mind, and motivation evolve from your 30s to your 60s
  • How to train in your 60s:
    → self-coached 8-hour training days
    → projecting with purpose
    → the importance of fingerboarding on send days
    → ice-cold hand tricks to climb harder in the cold
    → why he avoids certain types of dynamic board problems to prevent injury
  • Redefining success: why mastery isn’t about grades or PRs—but about curiosity, adaptability, and the joy of still trying
  • The inner life of a veteran athlete: what 50 years of climbing has taught him about loss, community, and legacy
  • Being a mentor, not a martyr: how he shares wisdom without needing the spotlight
  • Aging without apology: why aches and recovery delays are just part of the deal—and how to climb through them with grace and fire

🧠 Why It Matters:

Whether you're a dedicated athlete, a desk-bound dreamer, or someone wondering how to keep chasing meaning as the years stack up—this episode offers more than inspiration. It offers a roadmap.

You’ll walk away with:

  • A mindset for long-term performance
  • Tools to stay physically and mentally engaged
  • A fresh way to think about identity, reinvention, and the decades ahead



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