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June 2, 2025 51 mins

What happens when AI skeptic meets AI enthusiast—and the skeptic finally gets it?

In this candid conversation, Julie shares her breakthrough moment with AI and why it changed everything. From refusing to pay for AI tools to suddenly seeing their potential, Julie's journey mirrors what many of us experience when technology finally clicks.

Jason and Julie dive deep into the real questions that matter: Will AI push us back to authentic human connection? What happens to rural communities in the AI revolution? And why the race for efficiency might be missing the point entirely.

  • Julie's AI Awakening: The moment ChatGPT went from curiosity to game-changer
  • The Great Divide: Why AI might split society into 2% creators and 98% consumers
  • Blackmail Bots: How Claude's latest model attempted to extort its own creators
  • The Authenticity Crisis: Why deepfakes and AI content might drive us offline—and that's not necessarily bad
  • Free vs. Paid Tools: Practical workflows using Perplexity, Gemini, and more (without breaking the bank)
  • The Future of Work: From billion-dollar one-person startups to the death of entry-level white-collar jobs
  • Rural America Left Behind: The digital divide in an AI-first world


This isn't polished tech talk, it's two friends wrestling with technology's biggest questions. Julie brings the skepticism, Jason brings the expertise, and together they explore what happens when humanity meets artificial intelligence.


Perfect for: Anyone who's ever wondered if AI is worth the hype, worried about being left behind, or questioned whether all this "efficiency" is actually making life better.

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