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October 19, 2025 β€’ 65 mins

AGI - Advance, Grow, and Innovate with AI (Podcast) - Building the future, one human-AI collab at a time.

Episode Summary:

Robotics pioneer David Bruemmer challenges everything you think you know about artificial intelligence. Are we spending billions chasing the wrong definition of AGI while nature has already solved it?

Guest

David Bruemmer, Former DARPA Consultant | Founder & CEO of W8less LLC | Autonomy Institute | Pioneered military robotics for landmine detection and autonomous convoy systems

Guest Links

David on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-bruemmer/

W8less LLC

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/w8lessllc/

Website: https://w8less.io/


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Key Timestamps:[02:15] - Why positioning and truth matter more than intelligence in robotics[08:30] - The controversial claim: Large language models aren't actually AI[12:45] - How tigers, ants, and Messi prove intelligence doesn't require language[18:20] - Why Waymo's approach is fundamentally different from Tesla's autonomous strategy[24:10] - The Roomba paradox: Why the "dumbest" robot made the most money[29:35] - Share control vs full autonomy: What 1,200 military users taught us[35:50] - Software ate the world, AI is eating software, but swarm intelligence will eat AI[42:15] - The three pillars of real AGI: Individual, cloud, and swarm intelligence[48:30] - Why corporations want to eliminate humans (and why it keeps failing)[52:40] - The mining industry lesson: Autonomy for what purpose?[58:25] - Energy crisis: Why GPU computing is unsustainable at scale[01:02:30] - AI relationships and the search for truth in human connection

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