February 3, 2025 • 41 mins
Officially Fenner is starting a new chapter in 2025! First, we stand in solidarity with those impacted by the devastating California fires. We especially feel the weight of it with our granddaughter who's in college in Los Angeles, and send love and support to the people and communities who were impacted. We are also grateful for the first responders and organizations that are working constantly to help people work their way through this disaster.
For those who are new here, we kickoff season four of the podcast by reflecting on 2024 which was a very full year filled with family visits, another home project, an anniversary celebration (#45!), celebrations around the jersey retirement of NFL Hall of Famer and our brother-in-law Darrell Green, and work with a client which is challenging and that I enjoy.
In this episode of Officially Fenner, we reflect on the past year, and celebrate the joy of multigenerational living in Northern Virginia. Through all of life’s ups and downs, strengthening family bonds has remained our foundation.
Looking ahead, we’re embracing the power of AI and community engagement—especially after the success of a 2024 health fair that we participated in, which was a moment of education and learning for so many, including us. Our experiences have deepened our passion for promoting proactive health and wellness.
Most exciting of all, in 2025, we talk about our launch of Agile Always—a movement to inspire and connect people in new ways, both online and in real life. Agile Always will feature not only physical health, but mental wellness, eating well, relationships, and everything that it takes to live vibrant and stay agile! We have some great guests lined up to join us. The best part is the we want YOU to be an active part of this as we set new goals, and dance through 2025 with optimism, energy, and open hearts.
Beyond health, we’ll also have fun exploring personal style and storytelling, because of course. Rudy will share some unforgettable moments over the years—including encounters with legends like Michael Jackson and Bruce Springsteen!
We hope you enjoy Episode 1 of Season 4 of Officially Fenner. Follow us here and give us a like...tell your friends and family too! Together we'll make 2025 our best year yet!
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xo,
Robin & Rudy
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Officially Finner, with your hosts, robin and Rudy,
a podcast about family, wherewe live, love and laugh along
the way.
Hello, hello, hello and welcometo the first Officially Finner
podcast of 2025.
It's been a minute since we didthis and listen before we get
started.
I know this will put us in atime box in terms of sometimes
(00:24):
you like to be able to playthings and not put a time marker
out, but I want to not worryand dispense with that.
Our absolute hearts andattention over the last few days
have been with the incrediblyawful fires that have been going
on in the California area.
We loved California before andwe intensified that affection as
(00:47):
our granddaughter attends theuniversity out there, usc.
We have been paying closeattention.
I have apps, I have warnings, Ihave all sorts of maps and I'm
(01:08):
sure we will do what we can tosupport the efforts in recovery
of lives and homes andeverything that's going out
there and supporting the RedCross and everybody's doing all
of the things that they do tohelp bring that back to life.
So we want to start with sayingthat we're not.
We try really hard to be peoplethat just don't say we'll be
praying for you and when we endthat sentence.
There's a period and we neverdo anything else.
So it's, it's a prayer, but thefeet, the prayer has to have
(01:28):
feet, hands and feet.
So we will do that.
Uh, we will be sending my girlback over and so we will be
emotionally and all sorts ofleads, attached to that area in
that region, and we are not justpraying for the best but doing
whatever we can do to helprestore and resurrect everything
that has been lost.
So that is first and foremoston our minds.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
We also have friends and family out there, so we're
thinking of them, as well as um,as well as Milani.
So, uh, we were in touch withthem and so far, thankfully, no
one has um suffered suffered aloss.
Everyone is still healthy, noone's had to evacuate.
They still have their homes.
So we're very thankful for thatand, as he said, we are
(02:12):
supporting them in the way thatwe find we can at this moment.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So yeah, all right.
So podcast, podcast, podcast.
We are back and we are back forreal.
We have some clarity, we havesurvived and we're going to try
to kick a little butt.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, yeah, Sometimes life just takes turns and you
just get busy.
You get busy living it ratherthan talking about it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, I did a social media post and I said this and
it really is true.
Our lives have been likeeverybody else, like many other
people's has been pretty amazing.
We went from, in my case, inour cases, we went from COVID to
cancer recovery and in 2025,2024, rather, it was just kind
of like what was that?
And we spent the whole year,kind of like you would almost
(03:08):
say we were still, but it wasn'tbeing still, it was just
holding onto the rope and justmaintaining where we were.
And at the end of the year Iwas kind of overtaken by this
whole thought of, okay, we goback and reclaim the pyramids,
we go back and get our stuff,and God is.
The faith that we have is onethat he has.
(03:29):
Almost everything that I've seenin the Bible that I follow
always has an action.
There's an action involved init.
You just don't sit and thegoodness of life just floats in
and you just happen to justinhale it.
There are actions.
There was a roll away the stone.
It was put the mud on your eyes.
There's all sorts of thingsthat roll away the stone.
There was put the mud on youreyes.
There's all sorts of thingsthat happened biblically before
God did what he did.
So we believe that action isrequired, and by golly 2025 is
(03:53):
going to be some action.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's right.
And you know what, For anyonenew who's listening, who hasn't
you know, who just kind ofstumbled into it or heard about
it and hasn't joined us before.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What in the?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
world.
Yeah, who are these people?
I'm Robin Fenner and this wasmy husband, rudy.
We are Northern Virginiaresidents, we have been married
for 45 years, which wecelebrated during the past year,
and we are the parents of threeadult, three adults.
(04:21):
I say three adult children, butthree adults.
Yeah, three daughters.
We have a set of twins and theyall live nearby, so we're, all
you know, always together.
In fact, we have we actuallyhave a three generational
household.
So my one of my daughters andher family lives, lives with us.
We really enjoy having themhere.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
People you know that's a very interesting enjoy
having them here people.
You know that's a veryinteresting, love it.
We love thrive on it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
we think it's life, the ultimate life.
Yeah, it's an interestingdynamic.
I mean, there are a lot ofparents and a lot of families
who go through this you knowkind of situation, live in this
kind of situation, and so we'lltalk about that a little bit.
And we have uh another daughter, uh, who's not too far away,
with uh, her two kids, and andthen another one who's uh single
.
She's not far away either, afew miles away Fabulous.
So we have that.
What else do we want to say?
(05:07):
So Rudy works full time, he'sout of the house every day, and
I left, as they say, thecorporate world and I am a
consultant, but I also work on anumber of other projects, so
it's really a lot of fun and Ilearn a lot and love being able
to use what I learned in acorporate environment in this
situation and then also learnsomething new.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And the motivation for this podcast is we and I
think it started as our opinion,but it was our opinion based on
things that other people say weare incredibly blessed, we are
unusual people.
We are incredibly blessed.
We are unusual people.
We are not.
Not we.
I, I will never, I never amallowed to speak of her age.
I am a middle, 60 year old, 66year old man who is incredibly
(05:55):
gifted, who's a 5k runner, aeveryday worker, um, a busy in
all sorts of places.
So when I grew up, 66 years oldwas almost always somebody that
was retired and, unfortunately,in many cases, many people that
I knew, men, did not live longbeyond that age.
So I've been incredibly blessedand I'm in a unique position uh
(06:18):
, I am one of the first peoplein my realm, uh, who has been a
cancer survivor, of a severelevel of cancer.
So there's a lot of new things,first-timer things that I'm
experiencing, that we'reexperiencing, that, I think,
resulted in the words agilityand transformative, and I
believe that some of thoseexperiences we had fall into
(06:42):
those categories and I believewe believe that, in sharing our
story and keeping again with abiblical pattern, is almost like
testimonials and testifying asto what has happened and how it
happened and sharing thosethings with everybody.
And I'm trying to be moreintentional.
I am a I am a good, a good,strong running 5k participant.
(07:04):
Well, it is of no value if Itell no one how I did that, if I
share no one those experiencesand if I do not share with you
the benefits of being able torun a 5K, because it ain't just
about being cute and showing offyour legs.
There's things that happen inall kinds of health challenges
that having the lung capacityfor 5K comes in pretty handy,
(07:26):
that having a heart that canhandle a 5K comes in pretty
handy.
So it's not just the stuffaround it, it's some real-life
application to it and that's whywe do what we do.
I have heard for many times andmany occasions people speak
negatively about having theirkids live with them in different
(07:49):
situations, and that's why weso adamantly speak of the joy of
having our kids live with usand understanding that we think
many of us have been duped intobelieving that we kick the kids
out and we become thesedownsides.
It's fine if you want to dothat, but that is not a life
requirement and we have foundincredible joy in having a
(08:10):
three-year-old running past memaking noise, a 10-year-old
who's got to study for a mathtest tomorrow.
At 66 years old, I have foundtremendous joy in being
connected to that part of life.
So we believe that for some notfor all, I understand that, but
for some it can speak to beingagile and accepting what life
(08:35):
gives and being able to flex andto move and to adjust to it,
and we do believe that theseexperiences can be
transformative.
I am convinced that Robin is ayounger version of herself
because she deals with youngpeople all day long.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Actually, it's quite intentional.
I love surrounding myself withyounger people and I learn from
them.
I keep up with what's happeningwith them.
I'm engaged in new technologicaldevelopments oh my goodness, um
there's, so much, yes, toembrace, by in, by having young
people of all ages in your life.
(09:14):
Yeah, and um, and yeah, Iabsolutely love having the kids
here.
I look at them.
Sometimes it's toys, it'strucks, it's you know, and I say
you know what, if I didn't havethem here, these toys and
trucks wouldn't be here.
Um, that means they wouldn't behere.
And this is a small time inlife, yeah, a small period,
because life goes by so fast andif you can appreciate those,
(09:35):
those moments that you have tospend with your kids and other
people as well I'm not sayingall young people, you know your
friends or your age or yourfriends, of course, but the time
you get to spend with people isthe most valuable.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's a joy.
It's the most valuable.
I got excited.
I got excited when you saidthat, because I thought about
I'm going to just cheat realquick and tell you we are way
going into AI in 2025.
I want to recap what we did in2025.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I don't want to scare you, though.
I want to recap what we did in2020.
I don't want to scare you,though hold on, don't scare
anybody with that.
We get to see how we're doingit.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I don't mind, I don't mind you being a little scared.
I'll help you to not be scared,but what we're excited about is
, in 2025, our podcast, our post.
Everything that we're doing isto try to create tools to create
a foundation that is an agilefoundation and a transformative
(10:30):
foundation.
It would be great at the end of2025, we're all a little bit
better.
We have found ways to be betterthrough discipline, through
education, and that includesthings like AI, and we've found
some incredible partners that weare going to just do as much as
(10:54):
we can to help all generationsunderstand the incredible access
that we have to us available tous.
So we'll talk about that and,like I said but I'm cheating you
want to recap?
You had a note on here.
You just talked about a 2024recap.
Okay, you want to talk aboutwhat we did.
Well, I thought that was kind ofinteresting because that's why
(11:15):
we were so busy last year.
You're right.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, so I spent actually about half a year,
about six months last yearworking on a health fair that
was sponsored by our churchCrossroads United Methodist in
Ashburn, and it was the firsttime, I think, that we had done
something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And the health fair kind of was born out of a spark
that Rudy had after his initialcancer treatment to start a
health and wellness ministry.
So we did that and we hadsmaller sessions and some
speakers and that sort of thingand it evolved to the point
where we decided, hey, let's dosomething larger for the
community and we had, you know,a few hundred people there.
We had speakers, we had somewonderful doctors, we had some
(12:04):
health care facilities, we hadmedical professionals, we had
people who were involved inphysical fitness.
I just can't remember everycategory of folks that we had.
Our brother-in-law, daryl Green,was the guest speaker and he
really talked not so much aboutsports but about his own health
journey, and that was reallyinteresting to have him share.
We had breakout sessions onhealthy eating.
(12:26):
We had sessions on mindfulness,because, you know, being
healthy is not just the physicalside, it's also mental, it's
also spiritual.
So there were a lot ofcomponents that we included in
that day and we had food trucksand we had stuff for the kids.
It was like a real full day.
So it took a bit of time andeffort to put that together and
(12:48):
I spent a lot of time doing that.
You killed it Absolutely killedit.
Along with help.
I had help from other folks.
You killed it, but it was kindof our thought to try to pull
that together.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
And it is one of those examples.
There's a bunch of quotes thatare out there on this, but it
was taking something that was adark, painful thing and turning
it into a gift, because thatincredible gift for me being
(13:20):
diagnosed with cancer was one ofthe worst things that's ever
happened to me, but we took that.
We were able, with God's help,to overcome it and then use it
to educate others and to beginto create a platform.
And from that, that birth was ahealth and wellness ministry at
the church, which resulted inthe health and wellness fair,
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which has resulted in a healthand wellness component being
actually built in the church.
I am hoping to be an absolutepain to people all around, to
raise an awareness of what wecan do, because we don't have to
be passive.
We can take active, proactivepositions in terms of screening
(14:04):
testings.
I want to do everything I canto encourage everybody to
eliminate all fear of themedical profession, because
there are good people that cando some amazing things if given
time, and that's what a lot ofthis push is about, and we'll
continue to be a part of that.
There's one or two healthjourneys that I believe I'll be
involved in this year that Iwant to do a deep dive and drag
(14:26):
people along with the process.
Some may not want to hear it,but there might be two or three
people who benefit from it, sowe're going to do it and we're
going to do some podcasts withsome things.
There are all sorts of thingsfrom heart issues to lung issues
to still maybe COVID issues tocancer issues that when we can
bring something to the table tohelp with that, we're doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
We're doing it and so yeah, so that was a I think you
also had on your note.
I'm sorry to go back to yourrecap.
You talked about family stuff,the family room.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well, actually, you know, we speak a lot about your
family because they're here andwe see them very often.
Yes, we can literally walk totheir houses and all the time.
But, um, I have family in theregion too.
Yep, uh, you know, I wasbrought up in dc and I have
family still in dc and inmaryland, but it feels like it's
so far.
Sometimes when you drive to someof these places, it's like just
because of traffic and all thatso so we don't get together
(15:19):
that often, but we've been alittle bit better about doing it
, so I was able to spend sometime with them a couple of times
in the last year.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So much fun A group.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You know we'll get together for lunch or dinner or
whatever, and they're such sweetand wonderful people, and so
we're connecting in a differentway and doing more texting and
emailing and you know all thosekind of stuff that we haven't
done in a while, because youknow, it's not just that we're
busy, they're busy too.
So so, anyway, so that wasreally nice to connect with.
(15:48):
It was really my dad's side,yeah.
So we've done that.
So Good people Did that and,like you said, we then had a
house project.
I love house projects there'sthan to walk into Home Depot or
Lowe's and smell cut lumber.
That means there's a projecthappening somewhere and you know
.
I think they must spray thatbecause you will smell it as
soon as you walk in.
But anyway, I love doing thingsaround the home.
(16:09):
So we did redo our family roomand I think we may have posted
some things about that, maybe onInstagram or something, but we
took it from a more traditionalkind of look to something that's
more contemporary and moremodern.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It's so much fun.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
And it suits us, you know.
So we closed up our fireplace.
But more importantly it suitsthree-year-old Finley, well, it
suits the whole family betterand I think everyone enjoys it.
You know, and it's so funnybecause kids always say, oh,
you're changing something, don'tchange it.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
They hate it and then they love it.
You can't get them out.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So anyway, so that was fun.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
One other thing we're going to do.
I haven't, I haven't, I've notreally posted on social media
about this a lot.
I have to find a way to do adeep dive about the Jersey
retirement for Daryl and we mayeven do a podcast where we bring
him in and bring Jared in andtalk about it, because that's
incredible stuff.
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Robin and I have, so he jumps in the conversation
without introducing them.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So Daryl Green played football for what 20 years?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
With what's now the Washington Commanders.
The Redskins originally yeahokay, but the Commanders Yep Is
a brother-in-law and um gosh,we've known him.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh gosh, I met him before the twins were born.
I can't believe it.
So, nuts, I can't believe we'veknown him for over 40 years.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Oh my gosh, yeah but anyway, so his jersey he's.
He's an outstanding human, uh,he's a wonderful relative, he's
an uh, just a person yes, and afan, wonderful family member,
and if you met you wouldn't evennecessarily know that's what he
had done, because he's notActually the children don't know
.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
They were just introduced to that version of
him a couple of months ago.
They still are shocked by allof that.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
He's so incredibly humble and gives back so much to
the community, yeah, and we'rereally just proud to have him in
our family and I'll do.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think, and I think it's worth doing a whole podcast
between, historically, whathe's done, what happened with
the Jersey retirement and movingforward with the Christmas
party and all of that stuff thatwe do.
I think that's enough energythat we should cover.
We would cover that.
We could cover that for a wholetime.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
So he's jumping in again, so so because he was such
a stellar player, they retiredhis jersey.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yes, they retired his football jersey, which is a big
deal.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
So two or three of them got retired, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So it was a big celebration, huge that.
It was a wonderful surprise.
They were surprised.
He didn't even know that washappening.
And the Cabanders are actually.
Our experience with them hasthey've been a stellar
organization.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Amazing people.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
And yeah, great people.
And the way they had him do itis they brought him to the park,
had him read a script forsomething else.
What weekend was it?
It was in Detroit, right?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Anyway, I'm sorry, the draft, the NFL draft, duh,
how did we forget that?
Anyway, so the draft weekendthey have him come out.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
He's'm sorry.
Okay, the draft, the draft, thedraft, the NFL, nfl draft.
How did we forget that?
Anyway, so the draft we getthey haven't come out to read.
He's reading something with adraft.
He's reading me and, before heknows that, he's reading his own
retirement announcement and hedoesn't know they're filming it
it was just like tears, it wasjust like, oh my gosh, it was
beautiful anyway.
So that happened.
So it was a year-long march tothe Jersey retirement that
(19:22):
happened in October.
So all year long there wereevents and activities and that
kind of thing, and so we had thepleasure of being invited to
celebrate.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, and we need to cover that.
We're not going to sweep underthat.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
We're okay to be happy and joyful and celebrate
that I just want to set thestory up, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm just diving all in.
That's the way I do it.
So sorry, all right, all right.
So.
So I guess this is the thing.
What's next?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, the other part of the year well, actually
before the year started I wasactually doing some client work
for believe it or not, it's thecompany Rudy works for, but, um,
but the person who owns it hasbeen more um, I guess he started
off really as a family friend,because you all were friends.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
My man.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And you started working for him.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He's been my man.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Before we worked together.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, before I worked for him, I worked with him.
He's been my man forever.
Another part of that keep youngpeople around you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
He's a terrific person and we were talking one
day, I guess, and I learned thathe was looking for some help in
terms of business developmentthat I had some exposure to in
my former life.
I said, oh, I can help you outwith that a little bit.
So we started doing that Beforeyou knew it.
It's kind of segued into someother assignments and now it's
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been gosh two years.
I can't believe it's gone bythat fast that I've been doing
work for them.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I didn't realize that .
I know that's gone by that fastthat I've been doing work for
them.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I didn't realize that I know, yeah, yeah, and so I've
been doing some other thingsthat have been very, very
interesting and completely outof my wheelhouse in terms of the
details of how it all works.
But, again, I've had managingexperience in my prior life and
over a number of areas.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Managing, aka herding cats.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I did more than herding cats, darling.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Cat herding.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It wasn't herding cats, if you want to call, like
you know, 50 people cats.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
No, it wasn't that but anyway, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I really worked with a wonderful group of people and
I really enjoyed it.
It was just a time to make achange at the time, but I do
miss many of them and we stay intouch as much as we can.
So so, yeah, so, but havingthat background and being able
to apply some things from thatto what I do now with him has
been really awesome.
(21:35):
So I think we get along reallywell and I enjoy what I do and
it gives me purpose everymorning.
You stimulate it, it movinggrooving okay, so, so that's how
, that's how last year was.
And one thing after boom, boom,boom, and sometimes you know,
you know, you look at um, youknow social media and this and
that, and you can post all thetime like, I guess maybe some
(21:56):
people have time to do, uh, oryou can kind of live life.
So we like to live life andthen share it as we go along as
much as we can.
So that's what we're doing.
So now here we are at thebeginning of 2025.
Here we go, we're going in.
Yeah, so I told you a little bitabout us, who we are, and we
started this podcast actually in2020, during COVID, because we
(22:19):
were both stuck in the house andwe were trying to figure out
something to do and ourson-in-law, david, who's the
producer of this um, said youknow, you, let you all should do
a podcast.
He listens to our conversationsaround the house.
He should really do this andbecause he's like a sound
engineer and can do all thesewonderful things, he set it all
up and um, and now we've beendoing this podcast.
It started out about health andfitness because we were
(22:43):
learning at the time with regardto COVID, and now we know, with
everything else, how much beinghealthy and fit can help you if
you had that illness.
And so there were a lot ofthings we were trying to
encourage people to try to do.
They were working from home,that sort of thing.
We wanted them to be the bestthey could be, especially before
the vaccines came out.
We're trying to do a lot ofthings in that area and, because
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we were relying on your fitnessbackground and my growing
fitness background at the time,to kind of share the information
.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's been fabulous.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah.
So then we became we decided tocall it Officially Fener.
We were just kind of doing thisas something else.
We said, okay, it, we decidedto call it officially thinner.
We were just kind of doing thisas something else.
He said, okay, it's officiallythinner, that's right.
And we kind of segwayed intoother topics about life.
Um, it always kind of comesback to health and fitness
because, like I said, this issomething that he does and I've
come to learn so much more aboutand apply to my life in a
(23:35):
different way, so I think it'san inescapable yeah, I think
health and fitness isinescapable because it's
required.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It's a requirement and so I think we have
fortunately, at times stumbledinto information, stumbled into
experiences.
You're 50 pounds lighter, 70,70, I'm sorry, 70 pounds lighter
, and that was unintentional.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You didn't set out to do that no, and it was a
journey for me.
That's the thing, becauseyou've been working out since
the kids were born, okay, sothat's 40 something years now.
You can do before then probably, but for me that was kind of
like not my thing, no, and um, Ididn't.
You know, 40 years ago weweren't talking about it the
same way we're talking about itnow?
no um, but I have learned alongthe way that you know that's
(24:21):
definitely a better way to to um, to live and that sort of thing
.
So it's a working out thing.
It's also, like I said, it'smental health thing and there's
eating well.
It's all those components thatkind of help you make make you a
healthier person, and that'swhat we really talked about is
kind of health and wellness andum.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
So yeah, and what I think what I really hope to do
this year is to reveal a littlemore of you, because, in terms
of fitness, I'm always in thatand I'm a dominant, loud mouth,
short person who is alwaystrying to squeeze into and push
people out of the way, becausethe perception with a lot of us
(25:01):
smaller people is that we don'tget a say, and so we've learned
to just push in and make ithappen.
But your health and fitnessexperiences and results have
been underplayed and that'senough of that.
We need to make more peopleaware of that, because you're in
better shape now than you werewhen you were in your 30s.
(25:24):
I know that because I was withyou.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You're doing things now fitness wise and physically
your lung capacity, your muscledefinition, your but no, all of
that was not in your 30s that'strue, but but here's the thing I
think that what we want to makesure everybody knows is that,
yes, we're sharing what we did,but we're sharing it because we
(25:49):
want to help everyone else beable to be their best.
You might not be like person A,B, C or D, but we want you to be
your best and we want to helpteach you how to do that,
Because I think people can dowhat you've done.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Right Can do.
What I've done and that's whatwe want to do is erase this.
We're not some incrediblygifted athletes.
That's Daryl.
We're not in that group.
We have learned, I've run withhim and we are not built the
same.
Yeah, so we are regular,regular working folk who have
figured out ways to weave thiscritical component into lives,
(26:25):
and we believe we can helppeople find ways to do it as
well.
I think you had the health andfitness.
You had the eating.
Well, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, we we eating well, we talked about
relationships, we talked aboutfamily and home and also the pop
culture.
That was a fun one.
So we did all that right before.
So now, as we were thinkingtoward, you know, as we plan for
this year and to kind of startthis season, what we said we
wanted to do was try to kind ofencapsulate that into a brand
(26:56):
and really be intentional, Iguess, about kind of embracing
where we are.
I have been slower to embracethe age that rudy says that he
is for myself.
Yeah, yeah but um you get thedrift but actually so careful
(27:17):
here but actually what we wantto do is bring together the
things that we help will helpall of us.
Yeah, that means you too.
Yeah, listening together tolive our best lives.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, because I said to somebody just the other day,
I posted today a post aboutworking out.
In these snowy, cold conditions, getting to and accessing gyms
becomes difficult.
Working out, running outside isvirtually impossible.
So what can you do?
Well, and I made a post about adigital jump rope, yeah, which
(27:51):
is a 20 jump rope.
That isn't a full rope, thatyou can do in a hallway, in an
apartment, a small efficiencyapartment.
You don't have to have a lot ofroom.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So it's not really a rope rope right correct.
Just the handles of a roperight Correct.
Just the handles of a ropeCorrect that are weighted, but
the work is the same.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
So I want to try to help us all eliminate excuses
and that's something that I'vebeen incredibly blessed and
fortunate to do is eliminateexcuses that I use for me, and
we're trying to.
We want to continue to advancethat language and and and
communicate that out toeverybody that there are options
and things that we can do thatdon't require, uh, thousands of
(28:30):
dollars, that don't require muchmoney at all.
It's just a, a becomingdetermined to accomplish these
things.
Uh, and also, again, we'regoing back to weaving, taking
that kind of information andweaving it into the ai web and
and helping us to be smarter.
And how do we find out thisinformation?
Perhaps, what can we do toenhance what we know, to be
(28:53):
better at it, because the aithing is all around us.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Let's use this thing and get the most out of it yeah,
that's the thing about ai,because I know there's a lot of
controversy and people havedifferent opinions about it, but
from what I have been able tolearn, ai is like having a car
it's here to stay.
It's like going from a horseand buggy or something to new
technology.
Yeah, and the thing is that wethere are things about it that I
(29:20):
like and things about that Idon't.
Like to be completely honest,but if you find the ways to make
humanity better and to makeyour lives better and you kind
of pick and choose those kindsof things, if you have some
reluctance about it, then Ithink you might see how it can
be helpful.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, and I mean I think you guys did it.
Just a real quick example youworked with.
Milani on her diet right.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, that was really great.
You talked about a diet.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You came up with some search words, threw them into
AI and it came out and helpedher begin to develop a plan A
food plan?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
yeah, a food plan, right, right.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Which, for a college student, is just like oh, that's
like manna from heaven and shereally used it and it really
benefited her tremendously.
Well, we want to make that sortof thing available to everybody
that's listening and following,and we'll we'll over time,
we'll create some options foreverybody to connect with us
through email addresses and allthat stuff and and allow us to
send information and provideinformation that helps grow in
(30:21):
this knowledge and understandingof how to exploit this stuff
and make it work.
So it's out there, we just gotto take advantage of it yeah,
yeah, exactly so, um.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
So, like I said, that was a great, really good use of
that.
You know, making those kinds ofchanges is not always the
easiest thing, and I know thatbecause I'm not always really
fast to make a lot of changes.
So we're going to do it at apace that kind of makes sense
for everybody.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And we think it can be good, we think it can be
beneficial.
And again at the end of theyear we all look at some areas
and like, oh, I got better atthat.
Hey, two other things that Idon't even.
I didn't even.
So.
This is a very unrehearsed offthe map thing I'm getting ready
to say right now.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
We never rehearse.
This is so much fun.
We never rehearse.
It's like I do the outline andlike here it is.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So two things that I'm hoping that we can add to
our podcast conversations duringthe course of the year.
The year.
I have a book that I'mabsolutely fascinated by.
It's called Watching New York.
It is one of the coolest piecesof reading that I've ever
touched.
What I love about it?
New York is a lot of things,but I have never seen a more
(31:32):
fashion-free community than NewYork.
When you reach 40, 50,definitely 60 and 70, how you
dress begins to be a bit of achallenge Not for some people, I
know.
I know, but it isn't a challengefor some, but everybody cares.
Let me tell you something.
I wrote something down and ithas become a part of my life.
(31:54):
My man, dapper Dan, in New York, is a fascinating character who
, if you know anything aboutfashion, has been very prominent
in New York culture and fashionin general for a while.
He made a statement that juststuck with me.
He talked about thetransformative power of fashion
and let me tell you somethingfrom 10 to 100, there is nothing
(32:17):
like seeing a person that feelsgood about how they look.
Yes, and I don't want that to bea dismissive, I don't want to
dismiss that, as we grow olderand as I talk to my counterparts
in their 60s, I want us tostill feel good about how we
look, and I think there's somethings that I frequently am
asked about what I wear.
(32:38):
Honestly, that's not true.
I'm asked about what I wearalmost every week.
That's a constant thing,because I care, maybe a little
too much, that's anotherconversation, but I care, but
it's something that I want us totalk about from time to time.
It's important, it's important,it's important talk about from
time to time about fashion and Iand I let me just tell you
something.
I think we're at a point thatwas 70 of robin's wardrobe I
bought, I am, I buy a lot of herclothes and I urge her her shoe
(33:02):
, her shoe stash I just re-uppedher suit, that shoe stash, and
I like to.
I like a lot of things that Ibelieve she can wear, that she
doesn't think she can wear it,that when she puts it on, it's
like oh, I can wear that, like Iknew it all the time.
So I want to and I'm not justtalking about men's clothes.
I think there's a lot ofwomen's wear and a lot of
(33:23):
women's fashions.
I'd love to get into that andtalk about it a little more.
Bring our daughter, kelly in,who's a fashion professional,
and just talk about that andwork with folks and staying
alive in that area, because Ithink that means a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
The other thing so he thinks he's my Law Roach.
I know I am.
Well, he has to say about that.
If he is, then I'm Zendaya.
Okay, I know.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I am.
We'll see over time, go rightahead, but anyway, the last
thing.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
We can keep shopping.
Okay, go ahead.
The last thing that I want tomake sure we talk about.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
This year we're going to talk about we have a Robin
and I always talk about this andwe've never revealed this
publicly and we're going toreally do some deep dives this
year.
We have a part of our liveswhere we lived with a lot of
entertainment celebrities.
This was pre-Commanders,pre-daryl, all that stuff.
(34:22):
We've had conversations andinteractions with people that
we've grown up around, that manyof us, many people who are
listening, know and love andwe're going to start telling
some of those stories because wehaven't done that.
We haven't told our MichaelJackson story, we haven't told
the Lionel Richards story.
I've got a John Prine story,I've got a Bruce Springsteen
story.
There's a lot of stories and alot of things that have happened
(34:45):
in our lives that we've nevershared before.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Man, I just told an Isaac Hayes story on a family
chat Right and I told somebodythat as a matter of fact, I said
Robin needs to tell an IsaacHayes story.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
So we want to talk about that.
These people have beenparamount in our lives.
They've been markers indifferent aspects and different
periods that we need to talkabout and we need to bring that
out, and I'm sure that you guyslistening may have some as well
that we would love to share yourstories as well.
It'd be great to hear from you.
We have one or two people thatI want to try to reach back to,
(35:17):
who were part of my life duringthat time, that I want to just I
want to share and bring thatstuff back to life, because we
just lost Frankie Beverly.
There are some things thatFrankie's music means.
That is almost we're almostunable to articulate what that
means with so many othermusicians and people, so we want
to bring that back.
So the rock and soul era, thefashion component, the fashion
(35:41):
segment, those are all segmentsthat we want to add to our
conversations moving forward in2025 yeah, yeah, so we're
expanding, we're expanding allthe things you've been talking
about so, but I think all kindof falls still into that.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's still targeted to.
Well, I'll just say what we'regoing to become is a company
known as Agile Always, yes, sir,and now, if you're listening to
this, you're the first to knowwe don't have a website set up
yet, but we are in the processof taking care of all that.
And you to know we don't have awebsite set up yet, but we are
in the process of taking care ofall that, and you, again, will
(36:16):
be the first to know as soon asit's available and you'll be
able to um, follow up on somethings and reach out to us and
contact.
We'll have so much stuff.
We'll have, you know, greatplaces for you to join us on
social media and then hear fromus directly, and we're expanding
all of our communicationschannels, and so I'm really
excited about that.
I'm really busy working on thatright now, which is like wow,
um, but um, it's fun and it'sfulfilling, it's fascinating and
(36:39):
uh, and so we're going to besharing all that through this.
We're also going to have someinteractive activities.
We're hoping to have somein-person activities so we can
meet you and yeah, yeah andbring people together.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Bring people together further behind us and we're
getting out, got to get out.
We need to hang out with you,we need to meet with you, we
need to just break some breadand do all of that good stuff
you want to bring peopletogether and then really form
community, because when you dothat, oh my gosh, you can
support each other so much.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Meet new people, find out the things that you have in
common.
That's right, right, andhopefully this is the thing that
helps to bring people togetherthat you have in common, and
we're doing this.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
A lot of it is we're around people who inspire us.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yes, they make us better.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
They challenge us.
It's kind of like I may not sayanything to you but I'm going
to just tell you guys, I'm notgoing to front when you come in
front of me and you have someshoes that I really like.
I'm not necessarily going totell you, but I'm shoe shopping
as soon as you, out of my radar.
When you do things for yourwife, that I realize the smile
(37:42):
and how her heart is moved by it.
You move me to do things and sothat's the community that Robin
is talking about, that we wantto create, that we are inspiring
each other to create thosesmiles and to create that joy as
much as humanly possible.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway so I don't know if Iyou know, there's probably more
detail to it that's going toevolve as we go along.
I don't know if I haveeverything I can say today or
share today, but that will atleast give you an idea of what
we are looking at doing in 2025.
We're actually planning on it,working on it, and we I'm going
(38:20):
to speak it into being- excited.
So, um, you will see this as yougo along.
Um, please make sure you follow, share with your friends,
because I think I'm hoping thatthey will like this too.
Absolutely, so do that.
Follow us on Instagram.
We're still officially thinnerthere and everywhere else for
now, so please be sure to likeus to follow and all that kind
(38:43):
of stuff.
All right, so we're almostready to wind up, that's a wrap.
Yeah, I was going to ask you doyou have any New Year's
resolutions?
We didn't even talk about this,so I don't even know if he does
, or not.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
No, I don't.
You know, it's so much that I'mdoing.
It's like the resolution is.
I want to.
Yeah, no, I don't have a list.
I don't have anything like that.
How about you?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Well, you know what?
I don't make a lot ofresolutions because I only like
to make promises that I know Ican keep.
Wow, I think it was.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Isaac Hayes' lyric.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I'm not sure about that, but here's what I do know.
I do know well, there are kindof two things, but they're kind
of related.
So I'm in two book clubs and inone book club we had a white
elephant party this year and Ireceived the most beautiful
journal.
I love journals.
I love writing journals.
I keep the journals that Iwrite in.
I might make all sorts of notesin my journals, but I love
being able to go back and referto whatever it was I was writing
about.
It might be about something Iwas doing, or it might be a list
(39:41):
of things I had that I want todo.
Whatever it is, I love journals.
So I'm going to use this newjournal it's really lovely and
I'm going to try to startremembering things I'm grateful
for, because when you write themdown, it's always nice to go
back, or good things thathappened.
It's always nice to go back andreflect on that.
So I'm going to encourage you tofind a gratitude journal in
(40:03):
some way If it's not a book,maybe it's on your phone,
wherever you might find and justdo that, because I think it can
make us feel better on dayswhen we don't feel maybe the
best.
You know.
That's one thing.
Here's some good things hereand I've heard that about
Gratitude Journal, so I'm goingto share that part, and the
other thing I'm going to try todo is here's one thing I try to
(40:23):
do anyway in terms of likecomments on like social media
and things, and I was inspiredby it a little bit more when I
saw something on LinkedIn nottoo long ago, and that is when I
make comments about people orabout things that I see, I try
to find something funny orsomething that's positive.
(40:44):
I see so much right now, that'snot so much that, and you know,
hey, you know, it takes too muchtime to write all that crap.
So, just being kind, just beingkind of what we say, being kind
of just being kind, just beingkind of what we say, being kind
of what we do, being kind ofwhat we write, as much as we can
just making that effort andthat's all I can promise you.
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I'm glad about that.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I like to make promises that I can keep, or say
that when I say I'm going to dosomething, I try to do it, even
if it's's the last minute.
I don't feel like doing it, Iwill do it because I told you I
will.
If I didn't tell you I will.
There's a whole different thing, but that's how I am and that's
my truth.
All right, so, um, so, pleaseshare this always and um, we
(41:30):
will be in touch.
Um, we are so appreciative ofhaving the audience that we do
having you with us, and we lookforward to having you with us
even more.
20-25.
We're taking it, baby.
20-25.
Let's go All right.
Thanks for listening you guys.
Thanks so much.
Y'all All right Bye.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Now Talk to you later Officially Fender.
Officially Finner, with your hosts, robin and Rudy,
a podcast about family, wherewe live, love and laugh along
the way.
Hello, hello, hello and welcometo the first Officially Finner
podcast of 2025.
It's been a minute since we didthis and listen before we get
started.
I know this will put us in atime box in terms of sometimes
(00:24):
you like to be able to playthings and not put a time marker
out, but I want to not worryand dispense with that.
Our absolute hearts andattention over the last few days
have been with the incrediblyawful fires that have been going
on in the California area.
We loved California before andwe intensified that affection as
(00:47):
our granddaughter attends theuniversity out there, usc.
We have been paying closeattention.
I have apps, I have warnings, Ihave all sorts of maps and I'm
(01:08):
sure we will do what we can tosupport the efforts in recovery
of lives and homes andeverything that's going out
there and supporting the RedCross and everybody's doing all
of the things that they do tohelp bring that back to life.
So we want to start with sayingthat we're not.
We try really hard to be peoplethat just don't say we'll be
praying for you and when we endthat sentence.
There's a period and we neverdo anything else.
So it's, it's a prayer, but thefeet, the prayer has to have
(01:28):
feet, hands and feet.
So we will do that.
Uh, we will be sending my girlback over and so we will be
emotionally and all sorts ofleads, attached to that area in
that region, and we are not justpraying for the best but doing
whatever we can do to helprestore and resurrect everything
that has been lost.
So that is first and foremoston our minds.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
We also have friends and family out there, so we're
thinking of them, as well as um,as well as Milani.
So, uh, we were in touch withthem and so far, thankfully, no
one has um suffered suffered aloss.
Everyone is still healthy, noone's had to evacuate.
They still have their homes.
So we're very thankful for thatand, as he said, we are
(02:12):
supporting them in the way thatwe find we can at this moment.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
So yeah, all right.
So podcast, podcast, podcast.
We are back and we are back forreal.
We have some clarity, we havesurvived and we're going to try
to kick a little butt.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, yeah, Sometimes life just takes turns and you
just get busy.
You get busy living it ratherthan talking about it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, I did a social media post and I said this and
it really is true.
Our lives have been likeeverybody else, like many other
people's has been pretty amazing.
We went from, in my case, inour cases, we went from COVID to
cancer recovery and in 2025,2024, rather, it was just kind
of like what was that?
And we spent the whole year,kind of like you would almost
(03:08):
say we were still, but it wasn'tbeing still, it was just
holding onto the rope and justmaintaining where we were.
And at the end of the year Iwas kind of overtaken by this
whole thought of, okay, we goback and reclaim the pyramids,
we go back and get our stuff,and God is.
The faith that we have is onethat he has.
(03:29):
Almost everything that I've seenin the Bible that I follow
always has an action.
There's an action involved init.
You just don't sit and thegoodness of life just floats in
and you just happen to justinhale it.
There are actions.
There was a roll away the stone.
It was put the mud on your eyes.
There's all sorts of thingsthat roll away the stone.
There was put the mud on youreyes.
There's all sorts of thingsthat happened biblically before
God did what he did.
So we believe that action isrequired, and by golly 2025 is
(03:53):
going to be some action.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's right.
And you know what, For anyonenew who's listening, who hasn't
you know, who just kind ofstumbled into it or heard about
it and hasn't joined us before.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What in the?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
world.
Yeah, who are these people?
I'm Robin Fenner and this wasmy husband, rudy.
We are Northern Virginiaresidents, we have been married
for 45 years, which wecelebrated during the past year,
and we are the parents of threeadult, three adults.
(04:21):
I say three adult children, butthree adults.
Yeah, three daughters.
We have a set of twins and theyall live nearby, so we're, all
you know, always together.
In fact, we have we actuallyhave a three generational
household.
So my one of my daughters andher family lives, lives with us.
We really enjoy having themhere.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
People you know that's a very interesting enjoy
having them here people.
You know that's a veryinteresting, love it.
We love thrive on it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
we think it's life, the ultimate life.
Yeah, it's an interestingdynamic.
I mean, there are a lot ofparents and a lot of families
who go through this you knowkind of situation, live in this
kind of situation, and so we'lltalk about that a little bit.
And we have uh another daughter, uh, who's not too far away,
with uh, her two kids, and andthen another one who's uh single
.
She's not far away either, afew miles away Fabulous.
So we have that.
What else do we want to say?
(05:07):
So Rudy works full time, he'sout of the house every day, and
I left, as they say, thecorporate world and I am a
consultant, but I also work on anumber of other projects, so
it's really a lot of fun and Ilearn a lot and love being able
to use what I learned in acorporate environment in this
situation and then also learnsomething new.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And the motivation for this podcast is we and I
think it started as our opinion,but it was our opinion based on
things that other people say weare incredibly blessed, we are
unusual people.
We are incredibly blessed.
We are unusual people.
We are not.
Not we.
I, I will never, I never amallowed to speak of her age.
I am a middle, 60 year old, 66year old man who is incredibly
(05:55):
gifted, who's a 5k runner, aeveryday worker, um, a busy in
all sorts of places.
So when I grew up, 66 years oldwas almost always somebody that
was retired and, unfortunately,in many cases, many people that
I knew, men, did not live longbeyond that age.
So I've been incredibly blessedand I'm in a unique position uh
(06:18):
, I am one of the first peoplein my realm, uh, who has been a
cancer survivor, of a severelevel of cancer.
So there's a lot of new things,first-timer things that I'm
experiencing, that we'reexperiencing, that, I think,
resulted in the words agilityand transformative, and I
believe that some of thoseexperiences we had fall into
(06:42):
those categories and I believewe believe that, in sharing our
story and keeping again with abiblical pattern, is almost like
testimonials and testifying asto what has happened and how it
happened and sharing thosethings with everybody.
And I'm trying to be moreintentional.
I am a I am a good, a good,strong running 5k participant.
(07:04):
Well, it is of no value if Itell no one how I did that, if I
share no one those experiencesand if I do not share with you
the benefits of being able torun a 5K, because it ain't just
about being cute and showing offyour legs.
There's things that happen inall kinds of health challenges
that having the lung capacityfor 5K comes in pretty handy,
(07:26):
that having a heart that canhandle a 5K comes in pretty
handy.
So it's not just the stuffaround it, it's some real-life
application to it and that's whywe do what we do.
I have heard for many times andmany occasions people speak
negatively about having theirkids live with them in different
(07:49):
situations, and that's why weso adamantly speak of the joy of
having our kids live with usand understanding that we think
many of us have been duped intobelieving that we kick the kids
out and we become thesedownsides.
It's fine if you want to dothat, but that is not a life
requirement and we have foundincredible joy in having a
(08:10):
three-year-old running past memaking noise, a 10-year-old
who's got to study for a mathtest tomorrow.
At 66 years old, I have foundtremendous joy in being
connected to that part of life.
So we believe that for some notfor all, I understand that, but
for some it can speak to beingagile and accepting what life
(08:35):
gives and being able to flex andto move and to adjust to it,
and we do believe that theseexperiences can be
transformative.
I am convinced that Robin is ayounger version of herself
because she deals with youngpeople all day long.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Actually, it's quite intentional.
I love surrounding myself withyounger people and I learn from
them.
I keep up with what's happeningwith them.
I'm engaged in new technologicaldevelopments oh my goodness, um
there's, so much, yes, toembrace, by in, by having young
people of all ages in your life.
(09:14):
Yeah, and um, and yeah, Iabsolutely love having the kids
here.
I look at them.
Sometimes it's toys, it'strucks, it's you know, and I say
you know what, if I didn't havethem here, these toys and
trucks wouldn't be here.
Um, that means they wouldn't behere.
And this is a small time inlife, yeah, a small period,
because life goes by so fast andif you can appreciate those,
(09:35):
those moments that you have tospend with your kids and other
people as well I'm not sayingall young people, you know your
friends or your age or yourfriends, of course, but the time
you get to spend with people isthe most valuable.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's a joy.
It's the most valuable.
I got excited.
I got excited when you saidthat, because I thought about
I'm going to just cheat realquick and tell you we are way
going into AI in 2025.
I want to recap what we did in2025.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I don't want to scare you, though.
I want to recap what we did in2020.
I don't want to scare you,though hold on, don't scare
anybody with that.
We get to see how we're doingit.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I don't mind, I don't mind you being a little scared.
I'll help you to not be scared,but what we're excited about is
, in 2025, our podcast, our post.
Everything that we're doing isto try to create tools to create
a foundation that is an agilefoundation and a transformative
(10:30):
foundation.
It would be great at the end of2025, we're all a little bit
better.
We have found ways to be betterthrough discipline, through
education, and that includesthings like AI, and we've found
some incredible partners that weare going to just do as much as
(10:54):
we can to help all generationsunderstand the incredible access
that we have to us available tous.
So we'll talk about that and,like I said but I'm cheating you
want to recap?
You had a note on here.
You just talked about a 2024recap.
Okay, you want to talk aboutwhat we did.
Well, I thought that was kind ofinteresting because that's why
(11:15):
we were so busy last year.
You're right.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, so I spent actually about half a year,
about six months last yearworking on a health fair that
was sponsored by our churchCrossroads United Methodist in
Ashburn, and it was the firsttime, I think, that we had done
something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And the health fair kind of was born out of a spark
that Rudy had after his initialcancer treatment to start a
health and wellness ministry.
So we did that and we hadsmaller sessions and some
speakers and that sort of thingand it evolved to the point
where we decided, hey, let's dosomething larger for the
community and we had, you know,a few hundred people there.
We had speakers, we had somewonderful doctors, we had some
(12:04):
health care facilities, we hadmedical professionals, we had
people who were involved inphysical fitness.
I just can't remember everycategory of folks that we had.
Our brother-in-law, daryl Green,was the guest speaker and he
really talked not so much aboutsports but about his own health
journey, and that was reallyinteresting to have him share.
We had breakout sessions onhealthy eating.
(12:26):
We had sessions on mindfulness,because, you know, being
healthy is not just the physicalside, it's also mental, it's
also spiritual.
So there were a lot ofcomponents that we included in
that day and we had food trucksand we had stuff for the kids.
It was like a real full day.
So it took a bit of time andeffort to put that together and
(12:48):
I spent a lot of time doing that.
You killed it Absolutely killedit.
Along with help.
I had help from other folks.
You killed it, but it was kindof our thought to try to pull
that together.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
And it is one of those examples.
There's a bunch of quotes thatare out there on this, but it
was taking something that was adark, painful thing and turning
it into a gift, because thatincredible gift for me being
(13:20):
diagnosed with cancer was one ofthe worst things that's ever
happened to me, but we took that.
We were able, with God's help,to overcome it and then use it
to educate others and to beginto create a platform.
And from that, that birth was ahealth and wellness ministry at
the church, which resulted inthe health and wellness fair,
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which has resulted in a healthand wellness component being
actually built in the church.
I am hoping to be an absolutepain to people all around, to
raise an awareness of what wecan do, because we don't have to
be passive.
We can take active, proactivepositions in terms of screening
(14:04):
testings.
I want to do everything I canto encourage everybody to
eliminate all fear of themedical profession, because
there are good people that cando some amazing things if given
time, and that's what a lot ofthis push is about, and we'll
continue to be a part of that.
There's one or two healthjourneys that I believe I'll be
involved in this year that Iwant to do a deep dive and drag
(14:26):
people along with the process.
Some may not want to hear it,but there might be two or three
people who benefit from it, sowe're going to do it and we're
going to do some podcasts withsome things.
There are all sorts of thingsfrom heart issues to lung issues
to still maybe COVID issues tocancer issues that when we can
bring something to the table tohelp with that, we're doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
We're doing it and so yeah, so that was a I think you
also had on your note.
I'm sorry to go back to yourrecap.
You talked about family stuff,the family room.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well, actually, you know, we speak a lot about your
family because they're here andwe see them very often.
Yes, we can literally walk totheir houses and all the time.
But, um, I have family in theregion too.
Yep, uh, you know, I wasbrought up in dc and I have
family still in dc and inmaryland, but it feels like it's
so far.
Sometimes when you drive to someof these places, it's like just
because of traffic and all thatso so we don't get together
(15:19):
that often, but we've been alittle bit better about doing it
, so I was able to spend sometime with them a couple of times
in the last year.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So much fun A group.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You know we'll get together for lunch or dinner or
whatever, and they're such sweetand wonderful people, and so
we're connecting in a differentway and doing more texting and
emailing and you know all thosekind of stuff that we haven't
done in a while, because youknow, it's not just that we're
busy, they're busy too.
So so, anyway, so that wasreally nice to connect with.
(15:48):
It was really my dad's side,yeah.
So we've done that.
So Good people Did that and,like you said, we then had a
house project.
I love house projects there'sthan to walk into Home Depot or
Lowe's and smell cut lumber.
That means there's a projecthappening somewhere and you know
.
I think they must spray thatbecause you will smell it as
soon as you walk in.
But anyway, I love doing thingsaround the home.
(16:09):
So we did redo our family roomand I think we may have posted
some things about that, maybe onInstagram or something, but we
took it from a more traditionalkind of look to something that's
more contemporary and moremodern.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It's so much fun.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
And it suits us, you know.
So we closed up our fireplace.
But more importantly it suitsthree-year-old Finley, well, it
suits the whole family betterand I think everyone enjoys it.
You know, and it's so funnybecause kids always say, oh,
you're changing something, don'tchange it.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
They hate it and then they love it.
You can't get them out.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So anyway, so that was fun.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
One other thing we're going to do.
I haven't, I haven't, I've notreally posted on social media
about this a lot.
I have to find a way to do adeep dive about the Jersey
retirement for Daryl and we mayeven do a podcast where we bring
him in and bring Jared in andtalk about it, because that's
incredible stuff.
It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Robin and I have, so he jumps in the conversation
without introducing them.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So Daryl Green played football for what 20 years?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
With what's now the Washington Commanders.
The Redskins originally yeahokay, but the Commanders Yep Is
a brother-in-law and um gosh,we've known him.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh gosh, I met him before the twins were born.
I can't believe it.
So, nuts, I can't believe we'veknown him for over 40 years.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Oh my gosh, yeah but anyway, so his jersey he's.
He's an outstanding human, uh,he's a wonderful relative, he's
an uh, just a person yes, and afan, wonderful family member,
and if you met you wouldn't evennecessarily know that's what he
had done, because he's notActually the children don't know
.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
They were just introduced to that version of
him a couple of months ago.
They still are shocked by allof that.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
He's so incredibly humble and gives back so much to
the community, yeah, and we'rereally just proud to have him in
our family and I'll do.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I think, and I think it's worth doing a whole podcast
between, historically, whathe's done, what happened with
the Jersey retirement and movingforward with the Christmas
party and all of that stuff thatwe do.
I think that's enough energythat we should cover.
We would cover that.
We could cover that for a wholetime.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
So he's jumping in again, so so because he was such
a stellar player, they retiredhis jersey.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yes, they retired his football jersey, which is a big
deal.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
So two or three of them got retired, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
So it was a big celebration, huge that.
It was a wonderful surprise.
They were surprised.
He didn't even know that washappening.
And the Cabanders are actually.
Our experience with them hasthey've been a stellar
organization.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Amazing people.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
And yeah, great people.
And the way they had him do itis they brought him to the park,
had him read a script forsomething else.
What weekend was it?
It was in Detroit, right?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Anyway, I'm sorry, the draft, the NFL draft, duh,
how did we forget that?
Anyway, so the draft weekendthey have him come out.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
He's'm sorry.
Okay, the draft, the draft, thedraft, the NFL, nfl draft.
How did we forget that?
Anyway, so the draft we getthey haven't come out to read.
He's reading something with adraft.
He's reading me and, before heknows that, he's reading his own
retirement announcement and hedoesn't know they're filming it
it was just like tears, it wasjust like, oh my gosh, it was
beautiful anyway.
So that happened.
So it was a year-long march tothe Jersey retirement that
(19:22):
happened in October.
So all year long there wereevents and activities and that
kind of thing, and so we had thepleasure of being invited to
celebrate.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, and we need to cover that.
We're not going to sweep underthat.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
We're okay to be happy and joyful and celebrate
that I just want to set thestory up, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm just diving all in.
That's the way I do it.
So sorry, all right, all right.
So.
So I guess this is the thing.
What's next?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, the other part of the year well, actually
before the year started I wasactually doing some client work
for believe it or not, it's thecompany Rudy works for, but, um,
but the person who owns it hasbeen more um, I guess he started
off really as a family friend,because you all were friends.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
My man.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And you started working for him.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He's been my man.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Before we worked together.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, before I worked for him, I worked with him.
He's been my man forever.
Another part of that keep youngpeople around you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
He's a terrific person and we were talking one
day, I guess, and I learned thathe was looking for some help in
terms of business developmentthat I had some exposure to in
my former life.
I said, oh, I can help you outwith that a little bit.
So we started doing that Beforeyou knew it.
It's kind of segued into someother assignments and now it's
(20:35):
been gosh two years.
I can't believe it's gone bythat fast that I've been doing
work for them.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I didn't realize that .
I know that's gone by that fastthat I've been doing work for
them.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I didn't realize that I know, yeah, yeah, and so I've
been doing some other thingsthat have been very, very
interesting and completely outof my wheelhouse in terms of the
details of how it all works.
But, again, I've had managingexperience in my prior life and
over a number of areas.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Managing, aka herding cats.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I did more than herding cats, darling.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Cat herding.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It wasn't herding cats, if you want to call, like
you know, 50 people cats.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
No, it wasn't that but anyway, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I really worked with a wonderful group of people and
I really enjoyed it.
It was just a time to make achange at the time, but I do
miss many of them and we stay intouch as much as we can.
So so, yeah, so, but havingthat background and being able
to apply some things from thatto what I do now with him has
been really awesome.
(21:35):
So I think we get along reallywell and I enjoy what I do and
it gives me purpose everymorning.
You stimulate it, it movinggrooving okay, so, so that's how
, that's how last year was.
And one thing after boom, boom,boom, and sometimes you know,
you know, you look at um, youknow social media and this and
that, and you can post all thetime like, I guess maybe some
(21:56):
people have time to do, uh, oryou can kind of live life.
So we like to live life andthen share it as we go along as
much as we can.
So that's what we're doing.
So now here we are at thebeginning of 2025.
Here we go, we're going in.
Yeah, so I told you a little bitabout us, who we are, and we
started this podcast actually in2020, during COVID, because we
(22:19):
were both stuck in the house andwe were trying to figure out
something to do and ourson-in-law, david, who's the
producer of this um, said youknow, you, let you all should do
a podcast.
He listens to our conversationsaround the house.
He should really do this andbecause he's like a sound
engineer and can do all thesewonderful things, he set it all
up and um, and now we've beendoing this podcast.
It started out about health andfitness because we were
(22:43):
learning at the time with regardto COVID, and now we know, with
everything else, how much beinghealthy and fit can help you if
you had that illness.
And so there were a lot ofthings we were trying to
encourage people to try to do.
They were working from home,that sort of thing.
We wanted them to be the bestthey could be, especially before
the vaccines came out.
We're trying to do a lot ofthings in that area and, because
(23:06):
we were relying on your fitnessbackground and my growing
fitness background at the time,to kind of share the information
.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
It's been fabulous.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah.
So then we became we decided tocall it Officially Fener.
We were just kind of doing thisas something else.
We said, okay, it, we decidedto call it officially thinner.
We were just kind of doing thisas something else.
He said, okay, it's officiallythinner, that's right.
And we kind of segwayed intoother topics about life.
Um, it always kind of comesback to health and fitness
because, like I said, this issomething that he does and I've
come to learn so much more aboutand apply to my life in a
(23:35):
different way, so I think it'san inescapable yeah, I think
health and fitness isinescapable because it's
required.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
It's a requirement and so I think we have
fortunately, at times stumbledinto information, stumbled into
experiences.
You're 50 pounds lighter, 70,70, I'm sorry, 70 pounds lighter
, and that was unintentional.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You didn't set out to do that no, and it was a
journey for me.
That's the thing, becauseyou've been working out since
the kids were born, okay, sothat's 40 something years now.
You can do before then probably, but for me that was kind of
like not my thing, no, and um, Ididn't.
You know, 40 years ago weweren't talking about it the
same way we're talking about itnow?
no um, but I have learned alongthe way that you know that's
(24:21):
definitely a better way to to um, to live and that sort of thing
.
So it's a working out thing.
It's also, like I said, it'smental health thing and there's
eating well.
It's all those components thatkind of help you make make you a
healthier person, and that'swhat we really talked about is
kind of health and wellness andum.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
So yeah, and what I think what I really hope to do
this year is to reveal a littlemore of you, because, in terms
of fitness, I'm always in thatand I'm a dominant, loud mouth,
short person who is alwaystrying to squeeze into and push
people out of the way, becausethe perception with a lot of us
(25:01):
smaller people is that we don'tget a say, and so we've learned
to just push in and make ithappen.
But your health and fitnessexperiences and results have
been underplayed and that'senough of that.
We need to make more peopleaware of that, because you're in
better shape now than you werewhen you were in your 30s.
(25:24):
I know that because I was withyou.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You're doing things now fitness wise and physically
your lung capacity, your muscledefinition, your but no, all of
that was not in your 30s that'strue, but but here's the thing I
think that what we want to makesure everybody knows is that,
yes, we're sharing what we did,but we're sharing it because we
(25:49):
want to help everyone else beable to be their best.
You might not be like person A,B, C or D, but we want you to be
your best and we want to helpteach you how to do that,
Because I think people can dowhat you've done.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Right Can do.
What I've done and that's whatwe want to do is erase this.
We're not some incrediblygifted athletes.
That's Daryl.
We're not in that group.
We have learned, I've run withhim and we are not built the
same.
Yeah, so we are regular,regular working folk who have
figured out ways to weave thiscritical component into lives,
(26:25):
and we believe we can helppeople find ways to do it as
well.
I think you had the health andfitness.
You had the eating.
Well, yep.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, we we eating well, we talked about
relationships, we talked aboutfamily and home and also the pop
culture.
That was a fun one.
So we did all that right before.
So now, as we were thinkingtoward, you know, as we plan for
this year and to kind of startthis season, what we said we
wanted to do was try to kind ofencapsulate that into a brand
(26:56):
and really be intentional, Iguess, about kind of embracing
where we are.
I have been slower to embracethe age that rudy says that he
is for myself.
Yeah, yeah but um you get thedrift but actually so careful
(27:17):
here but actually what we wantto do is bring together the
things that we help will helpall of us.
Yeah, that means you too.
Yeah, listening together tolive our best lives.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, because I said to somebody just the other day,
I posted today a post aboutworking out.
In these snowy, cold conditions, getting to and accessing gyms
becomes difficult.
Working out, running outside isvirtually impossible.
So what can you do?
Well, and I made a post about adigital jump rope, yeah, which
(27:51):
is a 20 jump rope.
That isn't a full rope, thatyou can do in a hallway, in an
apartment, a small efficiencyapartment.
You don't have to have a lot ofroom.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So it's not really a rope rope right correct.
Just the handles of a roperight Correct.
Just the handles of a ropeCorrect that are weighted, but
the work is the same.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
So I want to try to help us all eliminate excuses
and that's something that I'vebeen incredibly blessed and
fortunate to do is eliminateexcuses that I use for me, and
we're trying to.
We want to continue to advancethat language and and and
communicate that out toeverybody that there are options
and things that we can do thatdon't require, uh, thousands of
(28:30):
dollars, that don't require muchmoney at all.
It's just a, a becomingdetermined to accomplish these
things.
Uh, and also, again, we'regoing back to weaving, taking
that kind of information andweaving it into the ai web and
and helping us to be smarter.
And how do we find out thisinformation?
Perhaps, what can we do toenhance what we know, to be
(28:53):
better at it, because the aithing is all around us.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Let's use this thing and get the most out of it yeah,
that's the thing about ai,because I know there's a lot of
controversy and people havedifferent opinions about it, but
from what I have been able tolearn, ai is like having a car
it's here to stay.
It's like going from a horseand buggy or something to new
technology.
Yeah, and the thing is that wethere are things about it that I
(29:20):
like and things about that Idon't.
Like to be completely honest,but if you find the ways to make
humanity better and to makeyour lives better and you kind
of pick and choose those kindsof things, if you have some
reluctance about it, then Ithink you might see how it can
be helpful.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, and I mean I think you guys did it.
Just a real quick example youworked with.
Milani on her diet right.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, that was really great.
You talked about a diet.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
You came up with some search words, threw them into
AI and it came out and helpedher begin to develop a plan A
food plan?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
yeah, a food plan, right, right.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Which, for a college student, is just like oh, that's
like manna from heaven and shereally used it and it really
benefited her tremendously.
Well, we want to make that sortof thing available to everybody
that's listening and following,and we'll we'll over time,
we'll create some options foreverybody to connect with us
through email addresses and allthat stuff and and allow us to
send information and provideinformation that helps grow in
(30:21):
this knowledge and understandingof how to exploit this stuff
and make it work.
So it's out there, we just gotto take advantage of it yeah,
yeah, exactly so, um.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
So, like I said, that was a great, really good use of
that.
You know, making those kinds ofchanges is not always the
easiest thing, and I know thatbecause I'm not always really
fast to make a lot of changes.
So we're going to do it at apace that kind of makes sense
for everybody.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And we think it can be good, we think it can be
beneficial.
And again at the end of theyear we all look at some areas
and like, oh, I got better atthat.
Hey, two other things that Idon't even.
I didn't even.
So.
This is a very unrehearsed offthe map thing I'm getting ready
to say right now.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
We never rehearse.
This is so much fun.
We never rehearse.
It's like I do the outline andlike here it is.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So two things that I'm hoping that we can add to
our podcast conversations duringthe course of the year.
The year.
I have a book that I'mabsolutely fascinated by.
It's called Watching New York.
It is one of the coolest piecesof reading that I've ever
touched.
What I love about it?
New York is a lot of things,but I have never seen a more
(31:32):
fashion-free community than NewYork.
When you reach 40, 50,definitely 60 and 70, how you
dress begins to be a bit of achallenge Not for some people, I
know.
I know, but it isn't a challengefor some, but everybody cares.
Let me tell you something.
I wrote something down and ithas become a part of my life.
(31:54):
My man, dapper Dan, in New York, is a fascinating character who
, if you know anything aboutfashion, has been very prominent
in New York culture and fashionin general for a while.
He made a statement that juststuck with me.
He talked about thetransformative power of fashion
and let me tell you somethingfrom 10 to 100, there is nothing
(32:17):
like seeing a person that feelsgood about how they look.
Yes, and I don't want that to bea dismissive, I don't want to
dismiss that, as we grow olderand as I talk to my counterparts
in their 60s, I want us tostill feel good about how we
look, and I think there's somethings that I frequently am
asked about what I wear.
(32:38):
Honestly, that's not true.
I'm asked about what I wearalmost every week.
That's a constant thing,because I care, maybe a little
too much, that's anotherconversation, but I care, but
it's something that I want us totalk about from time to time.
It's important, it's important,it's important talk about from
time to time about fashion and Iand I let me just tell you
something.
I think we're at a point thatwas 70 of robin's wardrobe I
bought, I am, I buy a lot of herclothes and I urge her her shoe
(33:02):
, her shoe stash I just re-uppedher suit, that shoe stash, and
I like to.
I like a lot of things that Ibelieve she can wear, that she
doesn't think she can wear it,that when she puts it on, it's
like oh, I can wear that, like Iknew it all the time.
So I want to and I'm not justtalking about men's clothes.
I think there's a lot ofwomen's wear and a lot of
(33:23):
women's fashions.
I'd love to get into that andtalk about it a little more.
Bring our daughter, kelly in,who's a fashion professional,
and just talk about that andwork with folks and staying
alive in that area, because Ithink that means a lot.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
The other thing so he thinks he's my Law Roach.
I know I am.
Well, he has to say about that.
If he is, then I'm Zendaya.
Okay, I know.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I am.
We'll see over time, go rightahead, but anyway, the last
thing.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
We can keep shopping.
Okay, go ahead.
The last thing that I want tomake sure we talk about.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
This year we're going to talk about we have a Robin
and I always talk about this andwe've never revealed this
publicly and we're going toreally do some deep dives this
year.
We have a part of our liveswhere we lived with a lot of
entertainment celebrities.
This was pre-Commanders,pre-daryl, all that stuff.
(34:22):
We've had conversations andinteractions with people that
we've grown up around, that manyof us, many people who are
listening, know and love andwe're going to start telling
some of those stories because wehaven't done that.
We haven't told our MichaelJackson story, we haven't told
the Lionel Richards story.
I've got a John Prine story,I've got a Bruce Springsteen
story.
There's a lot of stories and alot of things that have happened
(34:45):
in our lives that we've nevershared before.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Man, I just told an Isaac Hayes story on a family
chat Right and I told somebodythat as a matter of fact, I said
Robin needs to tell an IsaacHayes story.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
So we want to talk about that.
These people have beenparamount in our lives.
They've been markers indifferent aspects and different
periods that we need to talkabout and we need to bring that
out, and I'm sure that you guyslistening may have some as well
that we would love to share yourstories as well.
It'd be great to hear from you.
We have one or two people thatI want to try to reach back to,
(35:17):
who were part of my life duringthat time, that I want to just I
want to share and bring thatstuff back to life, because we
just lost Frankie Beverly.
There are some things thatFrankie's music means.
That is almost we're almostunable to articulate what that
means with so many othermusicians and people, so we want
to bring that back.
So the rock and soul era, thefashion component, the fashion
(35:41):
segment, those are all segmentsthat we want to add to our
conversations moving forward in2025 yeah, yeah, so we're
expanding, we're expanding allthe things you've been talking
about so, but I think all kindof falls still into that.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
It's still targeted to.
Well, I'll just say what we'regoing to become is a company
known as Agile Always, yes, sir,and now, if you're listening to
this, you're the first to knowwe don't have a website set up
yet, but we are in the processof taking care of all that.
And you to know we don't have awebsite set up yet, but we are
in the process of taking care ofall that, and you, again, will
(36:16):
be the first to know as soon asit's available and you'll be
able to um, follow up on somethings and reach out to us and
contact.
We'll have so much stuff.
We'll have, you know, greatplaces for you to join us on
social media and then hear fromus directly, and we're expanding
all of our communicationschannels, and so I'm really
excited about that.
I'm really busy working on thatright now, which is like wow,
um, but um, it's fun and it'sfulfilling, it's fascinating and
(36:39):
uh, and so we're going to besharing all that through this.
We're also going to have someinteractive activities.
We're hoping to have somein-person activities so we can
meet you and yeah, yeah andbring people together.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Bring people together further behind us and we're
getting out, got to get out.
We need to hang out with you,we need to meet with you, we
need to just break some breadand do all of that good stuff
you want to bring peopletogether and then really form
community, because when you dothat, oh my gosh, you can
support each other so much.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Meet new people, find out the things that you have in
common.
That's right, right, andhopefully this is the thing that
helps to bring people togetherthat you have in common, and
we're doing this.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
A lot of it is we're around people who inspire us.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yes, they make us better.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
They challenge us.
It's kind of like I may not sayanything to you but I'm going
to just tell you guys, I'm notgoing to front when you come in
front of me and you have someshoes that I really like.
I'm not necessarily going totell you, but I'm shoe shopping
as soon as you, out of my radar.
When you do things for yourwife, that I realize the smile
(37:42):
and how her heart is moved by it.
You move me to do things and sothat's the community that Robin
is talking about, that we wantto create, that we are inspiring
each other to create thosesmiles and to create that joy as
much as humanly possible.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, yeah.
So anyway so I don't know if Iyou know, there's probably more
detail to it that's going toevolve as we go along.
I don't know if I haveeverything I can say today or
share today, but that will atleast give you an idea of what
we are looking at doing in 2025.
We're actually planning on it,working on it, and we I'm going
(38:20):
to speak it into being- excited.
So, um, you will see this as yougo along.
Um, please make sure you follow, share with your friends,
because I think I'm hoping thatthey will like this too.
Absolutely, so do that.
Follow us on Instagram.
We're still officially thinnerthere and everywhere else for
now, so please be sure to likeus to follow and all that kind
(38:43):
of stuff.
All right, so we're almostready to wind up, that's a wrap.
Yeah, I was going to ask you doyou have any New Year's
resolutions?
We didn't even talk about this,so I don't even know if he does
, or not.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
No, I don't.
You know, it's so much that I'mdoing.
It's like the resolution is.
I want to.
Yeah, no, I don't have a list.
I don't have anything like that.
How about you?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Well, you know what?
I don't make a lot ofresolutions because I only like
to make promises that I know Ican keep.
Wow, I think it was.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Isaac Hayes' lyric.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I'm not sure about that, but here's what I do know.
I do know well, there are kindof two things, but they're kind
of related.
So I'm in two book clubs and inone book club we had a white
elephant party this year and Ireceived the most beautiful
journal.
I love journals.
I love writing journals.
I keep the journals that Iwrite in.
I might make all sorts of notesin my journals, but I love
being able to go back and referto whatever it was I was writing
about.
It might be about something Iwas doing, or it might be a list
(39:41):
of things I had that I want todo.
Whatever it is, I love journals.
So I'm going to use this newjournal it's really lovely and
I'm going to try to startremembering things I'm grateful
for, because when you write themdown, it's always nice to go
back, or good things thathappened.
It's always nice to go back andreflect on that.
So I'm going to encourage you tofind a gratitude journal in
(40:03):
some way If it's not a book,maybe it's on your phone,
wherever you might find and justdo that, because I think it can
make us feel better on dayswhen we don't feel maybe the
best.
You know.
That's one thing.
Here's some good things hereand I've heard that about
Gratitude Journal, so I'm goingto share that part, and the
other thing I'm going to try todo is here's one thing I try to
(40:23):
do anyway in terms of likecomments on like social media
and things, and I was inspiredby it a little bit more when I
saw something on LinkedIn nottoo long ago, and that is when I
make comments about people orabout things that I see, I try
to find something funny orsomething that's positive.
(40:44):
I see so much right now, that'snot so much that, and you know,
hey, you know, it takes too muchtime to write all that crap.
So, just being kind, just beingkind of what we say, being kind
of just being kind, just beingkind of what we say, being kind
of what we do, being kind ofwhat we write, as much as we can
just making that effort andthat's all I can promise you.
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I'm glad about that.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I like to make promises that I can keep, or say
that when I say I'm going to dosomething, I try to do it, even
if it's's the last minute.
I don't feel like doing it, Iwill do it because I told you I
will.
If I didn't tell you I will.
There's a whole different thing, but that's how I am and that's
my truth.
All right, so, um, so, pleaseshare this always and um, we
(41:30):
will be in touch.
Um, we are so appreciative ofhaving the audience that we do
having you with us, and we lookforward to having you with us
even more.
20-25.
We're taking it, baby.
20-25.
Let's go All right.
Thanks for listening you guys.
Thanks so much.
Y'all All right Bye.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Now Talk to you later Officially Fender.
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