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Rudy Fenner (00:00):
Officially Fenner
with your hosts, Robin and Rudy,
a podcast about family where wesaid I'm glad you were here.
You served us well.
We're going to continue to payyou incredibly well.
(00:30):
You go off and do whatever youfeel like doing and you had four
concerts lined up.
Robin Fenner (00:37):
Did I have four
concerts lined up?
Rudy Fenner (00:38):
It was crazy.
It was like a crazy schedule.
We saw Diana.
Robin Fenner (00:41):
Ross, did we see
John Legend that year too?
Yeah, we saw those.
Yeah, it was a crazy schedule.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We saw.
Robin Fenner (00:46):
Diana Ross Did we
see John Legend that year too?
I can't remember.
Yeah, but we saw those.
Yeah, it was a great summer.
It was a beautiful summer.
I rode around, I had thesunroof back.
Rudy Fenner (00:53):
What year was that?
Robin Fenner (00:55):
19, 20,.
What was it?
Was that pre it was COVID 2019.
Pre-covid yes, because 2020 iswhen it hit, that march when
they just shut everything downthe schools and everything I
never.
Rudy Fenner (01:08):
That's why I was
like that is one morning that
was like that.
That is an eventual podcast.
We'll do that summer of summerof 2019 I think I can remember
what I did.
Robin Fenner (01:16):
All I remember was
that it was just so fabulous
and I felt like when I woke upevery day, like this is like the
best life ever and I justthought it would continue that
way.
Rudy Fenner (01:24):
But then, you know,
things settle back into reality
over time, but that no, wedidn't have a chance to settle
into reality, you gosh, this issuch a great podcast because we
never had reality, since, if youthink about what we just said,
you retired in 2019.
We partied the whole time.
The party ended when COVIDinvaded our space.
(01:47):
Right, covid invaded our spaceand it was followed by a cancer
prognosis.
Robin Fenner (01:52):
Diagnosis.
Rudy Fenner (01:53):
Diagnosis sorry.
Robin Fenner (01:54):
You're right.
Rudy Fenner (01:55):
So there's been no
reality.
We're as close now.
Robin Fenner (02:00):
What is our
reality?
Rudy Fenner (02:01):
I'm sorry, not
reality Normal.
Robin Fenner (02:02):
Back to normal.
You can't go.
So what they call a new normal.
Rudy Fenner (02:05):
Right the word you
use, and so if you think about
that, gosh, that is somind-blowing what we just said.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah.
Rudy Fenner (02:12):
But I think that's
a whole conversation, because I
think what that teaches you isthe uncertainty of reality and
the uncertainty of tomorrow, andhow treasured the present has
to be.
If you don't treasure thepresent, you do not know how
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good it was.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah.
Rudy Fenner (02:36):
Right, because
there's potentially cards in
front of you that change soincredibly that where you are is
an amazing place and you justdon't realize it yet because
your points of reference aren'testablished.
Robin Fenner (02:48):
That's true, but I
will say that that summer I
knew I felt good.
Wow, it was just a beautifulsummer, the weather was
beautiful, it was just afantastic summer.
And even into fall.
It was just I don't know, itwas just a really great.
Rudy Fenner (03:02):
I remember being at
Wolf Trap and I don't remember
or really care about any songthat Diana Ross sung.
What was fun was we were all inthere.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, that was
hilarious.
Rudy Fenner (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, that
into itself was just hysterical.
Yeah, it was just.
I'll be there, like that.
Robin Fenner (03:17):
So it was a great
seven, eight months, and then
you know, things change.
Rudy Fenner (03:23):
All right, do you
want to kick us off?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
All right.
Rudy Fenner (03:27):
Going to count it
down, we're going.
First podcast of 2024 in three,two, one.
Robin Fenner (03:37):
Hey everyone and
welcome to the Officially
Thinner Podcast.
Rudy Fenner (03:41):
Where you been.
Robin Fenner (03:42):
It is, this is
April been.
It is.
This is this is April Right.
Rudy Fenner (03:48):
It is.
Robin Fenner (03:48):
And this is the
first podcast we've recorded-
Numero uno and it feels reallybad that we've been away for so
long but so much has beenhappening.
But it's a great story.
It's a great story, it's agreat story it's really busy and
I have missed.
It felt so good to get behindthe mic again today and just
talk to you about things,because we talk about things
here behind the mic that wedon't talk about sometimes.
Rudy Fenner (04:10):
So what's funny is,
before we started the official
podcast that you're listening to, we had a conversation that we
realized needs to be a podcastBecause, yeah, the busyness of
life and, my gosh, everybody islistening, knows exactly what
we're talking about the busynessof life sometimes interrupts
the possibility of just a basicconversation and this is what,
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okay.
So this is why you have to doyour porch, your deck, whatever
your area is, that you sit inthe summer and you plan nothing
and you just sit and these kindsof conversations occur, right,
and that is beautiful.
Robin Fenner (04:45):
That's a beautiful
thing, because otherwise you
said the business of life,you're running around, is this
done, is that done?
We've got to go here, we've gotto go there.
Whatever it is, we've got towork.
Whatever it is you have to doand then so you miss out on
these things.
Rudy Fenner (04:57):
So let me ask you
this Okay, our Just let me ask
you, from what you can remember,what was that To get kind of to
re-engage from when we werelast podcast?
Let's talk about that.
Tell me about the last podcast.
Robin Fenner (05:08):
Well, we had
started this series called it's
a Wonderful Life.
Yeah, and our point was toengage with people and talk
about different paths they hadtaken, different kinds of
relationships they have.
Yes, and to do that we had alittle bit of a snafu recording
the one that we did.
Oh, it's tragic.
And then it was a great podcast.
It was so wonderful and ifthere's any way to recover that
(05:29):
recording, we're going to try todo that and put it out there
because it's timeless and and Ithink you all would enjoy
hearing it we had um guest, um,uh, jared green and his wife
joanna, yeah, and uh, they justthey have a very interesting and
wonderful life and and, uh,we're explaining kind of how
they got there, because itwasn't just all.
Rudy Fenner (05:46):
And it was
incredible because, again, I've
never talked extensively withthe two of them like that.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah.
Rudy Fenner (05:53):
And while we're
talking, we're interviewing them
and it switches to it isn'tuncle and aunt, niece and nephew
anymore it's a relationshipwith four people talking niece
and nephew anymore, it's arelationship with four people
talking.
And we found things about herthat they were always treasures
to me.
But my gosh, by the time wefinished I'm like who are these
dudes?
(06:14):
And it was great and I think wekind of cheat life a little bit
sometimes because we do thesetypes of things because we're
just you and I are adventurous,but what it does is it ends up
taking us to different levels ofrelationships with people.
Yeah, exactly.
And I just don't think we couldhave gotten as close, because
those guys are you and Jaredy'all just have a love affair
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that I just got to get out ofthe way of.
I can't even take y'all, youtwo, anymore.
And I hug Joanna different.
I always hugged her when I sawher, but I hug her different.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah.
Rudy Fenner (06:45):
And that was a
beautiful result of just talking
and spending that time together, so that was great.
Robin Fenner (06:50):
And they don't
leave me, so we don't see them
super often.
Rudy Fenner (06:54):
So you know, it was
nice to really get to know each
other and we did the beforethat, we did drive the podcast
with David and Kelly, right.
Robin Fenner (07:00):
We did the podcast
with David and Kelly Latahal,
our daughter and Son in Love, orSon in Love as I like to call
him.
We also did Queen Charlottebecause we were talking about
that.
That was very interesting, wedid.
Rudy Fenner (07:11):
And if you didn't
listen to Queen Charlotte, let
me tell you something.
You know, sometimes we'retalking and I want to go back
and listen to myself, becauseI'm not always.
I mean, I'm just living life,Right, and we're just talking.
But as we talked about QueenCharlotte, there were relational
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relationship, things that justlike man, if that woman was
anything like in real life, thecharacter that was portrayed on
television.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah.
Rudy Fenner (07:42):
Whoa, she was
intense and every man wants that
woman, every woman wants thatman, because, well, they want
that kind of relationship, well,and.
But I'm just saying, yeah,that's what I'm pointing to is
the relationship.
You're right, and I'm sorry,forgive me so, but I'm just
saying because he was caught ina snare and I don't mean to be
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insulting or demeaning, but thelife around the monarchy is mild
insanity to me, because it'sjust an odd, hard-to-justify
existence in many ways.
But he really did care abouther, oh yeah, and I think he
really did grow to love her andhe grew to within the boundaries
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of what he could do, because,gosh, this is going too deep.
Robin Fenner (08:34):
See, I think he
loved her almost from the
beginning.
It's just that the mentalillness kept him from being in a
loving relationship as weexpect it to be, but Because he
couldn't do that.
Rudy Fenner (08:45):
Also.
Oh gosh, I'm going to writethis down because this is
another podcast, Okay we'regoing to go back to this.
No, no, no, no I think theother thing was but he did not
have the guts of Harry.
And let me tell you what I'mtalking about, because, see,
harry was born into the samesystem.
Prince Harry was born into thesame system.
But Prince Harry had the gutsto say now, y'all can't do my
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girl like this, you can't do herlike this.
And everybody said stoptripping, this is who we are.
And he said nah, you can't domy girl like this.
And you know what this is.
Leave and cleave.
That is yeah, A man will leavehis mama and cleave to his wife.
Is that how it goes?
(09:27):
I don't want to.
I'm getting excited.
My words are getting jumbled,but understand.
So, Charlotte, the king couldnot step to his family the way.
I understand the mental illness, part of it, but I also suggest
that before the mental illnesskicked in, he was a party to the
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system and would not buck thesystem on behalf of his wife.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah.
Rudy Fenner (09:53):
Harry is in trouble
.
Prince Harry is in troublebecause he said nah, y'all can't
treat my girl like that.
Robin Fenner (09:59):
Right.
Rudy Fenner (10:00):
And it's also a
position of just being in that,
but I'm telling you thatposition is the same way that
many men are with their mamasright now.
That's true too.
With their mamas right now,they got the life, the wife of a
lifetime, and they can't get toit.
You know why?
Because they still dealing withmama.
That's true.
And mama got her hand in apocketbook.
(10:21):
She got her face in a bedroom,she looking at their furniture.
Gosh, hey, y'all, y'all hearwhat I'm saying.
You hear what I'm saying?
Oh, that's a podcast.
Robin Fenner (10:31):
Oh, he's on fire.
Rudy Fenner (10:32):
That's a podcast.
I'm going to listen to the nextpodcast.
I'm just right there, princeHarry.
That's a whole podcast, rightthere.
Robin Fenner (10:38):
It is, it is, and
Meghan Markle, my goodness, hold
on, goodness, hold on.
Rudy Fenner (10:41):
Let me make a note.
Robin Fenner (10:42):
Go right here,
okay all right, we're supposed
to smoke them if you got themany second we're supposed to be
doing kind of a recap of whatwe've been doing.
Oh yeah, so we.
So we did those podcasts andnow we're just kind of catching
up a little bit.
So it's kind of catching upwith the fenners, I guess, over
the last four months, not in thepodcast world, but in real life
yeah, just to let you know alittle bit what's been going on
and, and that's what it sayssince our last podcast and what
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we're going to do next.
Rudy Fenner (11:04):
Can I talk for just
a moment?
Robin Fenner (11:06):
Oh, you've been
talking the entire time.
Rudy Fenner (11:07):
But no, I said, can
I talk for a moment?
Robin Fenner (11:09):
Please go right
ahead.
Rudy Fenner (11:11):
Okay.
So when we talked about sinceour last podcast, we have had
some interesting realities to bepresented to us.
This life thing is for real.
Be presented to us.
This life thing is for real.
It is amazing how real it canget the pace and the tempo how
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little you have control over andhow incredibly gifted you are
to be in the moment that you'rein.
I wrote down four numbers 1, 6,33, and 18, and I don't think I
really understood the impact.
Robin grew frustrated at timesbecause we couldn't get back to
the podcast and I realized thatwe were kind of like on the tail
(11:57):
end of a whip, the whip beingwhat's occurred since april of
2022.
Everybody knows that listens tothe podcast that I was diagnosed
.
I had a cancer diagnosis.
It was stage four salivarygland cancer Really really
intense, really serious stuff.
Right, that resulted the one,six, 33, and 18.
(12:22):
It was one surgery.
It was a radical neckdissection, six chemotherapy
treatments infusions, 33radiation treatments and 18
targeted therapy treatmentinfusions.
I did not know how much of afighter I am.
(12:43):
I did not know the gift.
I didn't fully realize the giftthat God had given me.
I did not know I could take apunch the way I could.
I did not know I could stillsmile and be happy in the face
of adversity and storms the wayI did.
I did not know my adult bodycould handle 125 pounds weight.
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I did not know I could go 21days without eating.
I did not know that my wife wasone of the most incredibly
strong humans I have ever met.
I have ever met, and I don'tsay that because I'm with her.
I don't say that because I'mcommitted to her.
I say that because of'm withher.
I don't say that because I'mcommitted to her.
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I say that because of what Isaw.
I'm, I experienced care andconcern that blew my mind, and
it isn't just handing you abandage when you need one or
giving you a cold wrap for yourhead If you need that.
I'm talking aboutorganizationally having her
stuff together to the point thatshe is caring for me in a way
that I never, ever, ever.
(13:47):
You understand this.
I'm talking about all of thosenumbers I called and all of that
.
I never scheduled oneappointment, not one.
Not zero, zero did I schedule.
I never talked to anybody aboutwhat was next.
I just followed the directionthat she pointed me in and I
went and, of course, me beingthe kind of guy I am, I drove to
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all of my sessions because thatwas important.
I had to drive all the waydowntown and get them and drive
back, no matter what happened,um, except the surgery, I did
not drive back from that I gottaride back from that, uh.
So I absolutely learned moreabout who we are and what we are
, but I also learned that atsome point, no matter how much
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badassery you claim, you got tosit down.
You got to sit down and you gotto catch your breath, because
when this was all done, my lasttreatment was December 15th 2023
.
If you're noticing, yeah, thathasn't been, that's just barely
been maybe six months.
Robin Fenner (14:53):
Right.
So that was during the timethat we kind of backed off of
doing this.
Rudy Fenner (14:57):
And we did not so
when she asked so, when she grew
frustrated about the podcast, Iunderstood.
But then I realized honestly,y'all, we couldn't, we just had
to sit down for a minute, let'stake a break.
We had to just pause.
And now it's interestingbecause the flip side of that,
the other side of that coin, hasbeen fascinating, because I'm
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trying to recover life and getback up to speed.
And it's almost like I steppedon the accelerator too hard,
entering onto 95.
And she said to me bruh, yougot to take your foot off the
accelerator.
We're not going to go that fast.
You're not and I'm not.
Here's a calendar, here's what Ineed you to schedule.
And she made me schedule thingsCause I'm, I'm, I'm like a part
(15:41):
of the worship team at church,things, because I'm like a part
of the worship team at church.
And she said that's fine, butwe ain't doing this early Sunday
.
We're not going to do thisearly Sunday.
I can't do this because you, upin the middle of the night, up
in the top of the morning, nobreaks, I don't have this, I
don't have that.
And I realized, like you knowwhat, I'm trying to recover my
entire life in a week.
And so I've had to pull back,and I think I am still pulling
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back and trying to get mybearings.
I wear my Oura ring, and myOura ring is like saying, bro,
we're going to just stop talkingabout sleep, because yours is
getting more and more messed up,and so I'm getting it back
together.
Robin Fenner (16:20):
It's a lot of
balance, and the other thing,
too, is that you've been workingout in a way to try to make
sure that the fever doesn't comeback, so that's just kind of
the morning, when you first wakeup in the morning, and all that
.
So your work hours stillshifted and you know later hours
and all that.
Oh yeah, we didn't even talkabout that.
Rudy Fenner (16:38):
I'm back to working
full time.
I mean working like a dude andI have a great job, but it's
intense, it's a life-sucking.
You ain't going in there doinga whole bunch of other casual
stuff.
You focused on what you'redoing.
You got to be focused and so,yeah, it is fascinating.
And one last thing and then sherealized is that we just after
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December 15th so we were gettingon top of what I said, those
things, those numbers in thetreatments, there were
echocardiograms, there's beenregular blood draws, there's
been all kinds of monitoring andtreatments around.
There was a period where itincluded physical therapy, all
kinds of monitoring andtreatments around.
It was a period where itincluded physical therapy.
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We're dealing with fluid andmoving that fluid, doing
different therapeutic things toget that going.
And all of a sudden everybodysaid, okay, you're good, you can
go.
It's like well, wait a minute,wait.
So she has time.
Now she's trying to figure outwhat to do with that time.
I have time, I'm trying tofigure out what to do with that
time and she's looking at me andshe's saying, no, we don't need
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to figure nothing out, we justhave the time.
How about just have the time?
And I'm struggling with thatbecause, again, I'm trying to
recover and get back on my feetand I think I stood up too fast.
You ever get dizzy when youstand up too fast.
Fast.
That's kind of like what I'vedone.
So we're adjusting, we'regetting that straight.
Robin Fenner (18:11):
You're going to be
monitored always.
Rudy Fenner (18:14):
The rest of my life
.
Robin Fenner (18:15):
And you should be.
That should happen, but it does.
The frequency decreases.
Rudy Fenner (18:20):
And I'm no longer
in the witness protection
program.
Robin Fenner (18:22):
So this is like
you know you've been on a
bicycle, or maybe a tricycle,then a bicycle with training
wheels, and now you're on thebike without the training wheels
.
Rudy Fenner (18:29):
This is a good
point.
Robin Fenner (18:30):
Yes, so now you
feel like, okay, wait a minute.
How are you, how are you gonnabe sure this stuff?
Doesn't come back because Iwon't sleep for another three or
four months, yeah, and there'sa little bit of insecurity with
that at first there definitelyis insecurity and you have, and
you know, kind of gettingthrough all that when everything
else has been so intense, um,and kind of really adjusting
back to a regular life.
There's time for that.
You have to make time for that.
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That you might not have knownyou had?
Rudy Fenner (18:54):
Oh, absolutely you
had no clue.
I had no clue, You're right, sothat's really been kind of a
shift.
Big time, yeah, big time.
So listen, let me ask you acouple of questions.
Robin Fenner (19:04):
Why don't you just
ask away?
You're like the brains of thisoperation.
Ask away.
Rudy Fenner (19:08):
What's next?
Where's the podcast going?
What are we going to do here?
What do we got?
2024, we're in April.
We got what eight good strongmonths left, shalom.
Robin Fenner (19:18):
Well, I hope we're
doing more than just one a
month, but I'll say that.
But secondly, so, as I've said,there are a few things that we
have done that we're going tocome back to, things that we are
have done that we're going tocome back to.
Now, one of the reasons why wecall this officially thinner and
and one of the things that wetry to do, is create kind of a
broad range of topics that wecover because we don't want to
be just stuck talking only aboutone thing when there's so much.
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That means she got tired oftalking about fitness I'm not
even going to say what's goingto say about you and what you
talk about all the time.
Rudy Fenner (19:48):
Okay, but anyway
You're going to talk about
basketball.
Robin Fenner (19:54):
Well, you know, I
prefer fitness or basketball
over any of the things we'vebeen dealing with in the last
two years.
Rudy Fenner (19:58):
You ain't lying.
You ain't lying about that.
Robin Fenner (20:01):
I keep up with the
headlines because that's really
important.
Rudy Fenner (20:07):
All you have to do
is watch the a big game, because
she will tell you the score andwho scored the most points, so
don't even try it.
I tried that and I got yeah.
Robin Fenner (20:15):
I'll just tell you
, my morning show of choice is
Good Morning America, firstthing in the morning and I
learned everything I need toknow.
Rudy Fenner (20:19):
Everything.
Robin Fenner (20:20):
Everything, yes,
and different perspectives.
It's wonderful.
Thank you, michael Strahan andWhit George, and everybody.
Rudy Fenner (20:27):
How about that?
Those are your people.
Robin Fenner (20:29):
All right.
So anyway, but one of thethings we had done a little bit
of before we talked about makingsome changes to our house.
Yes, it's kind of like, youknow, one area begets another
and we're always going to bedoing these kinds of things.
Our house is nearly 30 yearsold, so you know we've been
doing things all along, but ifyou did something 15 years ago,
maybe it's time to redo thatagain.
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So we refreshed some new areasand it's been kind of fun
because instead of having acontractor come in and do it
like we did for the kitchen, wewere doing it kind of on, you
know, a lower-scale budget andwe are still working to finish
the last details.
But we redid our family roombecause you can see it from the
kitchen.
So the family room reallysucked.
(21:10):
So, yes, the kitchen lookedgorgeous.
Let me take this back.
Rudy Fenner (21:13):
So, if you haven't
had a chance to go back and
listen to and I think we had avideo, we did the video portion
of the podcast as well theKitchen Chronicles, the Kitchen
Chronicles Go back and look atKitchen Chronicles, because
Kitchen Chronicles was all aboutgutting it and rebuilding from
the floor up and it wasinteresting because we've done
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it a few ways.
I was talking to Robin aboutthis and a lot of things that
happened with the house.
We do them and it has.
Robin has this incredible flairthat I just thank God that
Miles Monroe and other pastorsin the past talked about wives
and the beauty of having strongwives and how we need to not be
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intimidated by them and embracethis strength and embrace it,
and what that basically means isjust sometimes shut up and
follow what they say.
Because she said so much stuffabout the kitchen, I'm kind of
like all I know is how much it'sgoing to cost.
I don't know Is this an act?
And something in my soul, justlike all I know is how much it's
going to cost.
All I know is this and that andsomething in my soul just said,
uh-uh-uh, this is a shut-upmoment.
Man, that thing finished and mymind was blown.
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I clean that kitchen up, like MrJohnson every night Still does.
I don't want a spot right now,to this day.
I don't want a spot on thecounter.
My floors I inspect my floors.
You can put a crumb if you wantto, but as soon as you leave
I'm vacuuming up what you justdid.
I want it clean, I want it wellkept, but a lot of the stuff we
did, we did it and it ended upbeing incredibly beautiful.
But I realized after a whilethere was going to be some
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required maintenance anyway.
So it wasn't like we just didsomething.
We had some money to blow.
We maintained it and upgradedsome things that needed to be
upgraded and it just ended upflawlessly and just like you
said.
The problem is, once youupgrade number one, you look at
the section two and section twois like a hood now you can see
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it from section one.
Oh yeah, yeah, it's like, ohwait, taking that wall down, I
can see that whole room.
Robin Fenner (23:08):
That's trash, yeah
yeah, so we did some
interesting things.
Actually, believe it or not, wehave a more contemporary design
choice.
Rudy Fenner (23:19):
Contemporary design
choices these days, not super
modern but definitely not, asLet me translate that we went
into a model home, one day.
And the model home was in alocale, in a money place that we
didn't feel comfortable with,but we stole everything that
they had, every idea.
I'm telling you, if Iblindfolded you and took you
(23:43):
into my kitchen, thenblindfolded you and took you
into their kitchen and tell youwhich one were you in you'd need
a moment.
Well, they took you into theirkitchen and tell you which one
were you in.
You need a moment.
Well, they're inspirational.
You need a moment and I thinkit's fabulous.
Robin Fenner (23:54):
You go, they go to
the trade shows and they see
all the new things that arecoming out so they kind of help
to incorporate that design ofyour house it's also being
somebody trying to sell you 800versions of gutter protectors,
but which is good, a lot of goodideas.
Rudy Fenner (24:05):
So, yeah, so, yeah.
So, kitchen, kitchen chronicles, and I and I we don't I, I mean
, I name everything, and Robin,like my names, are not always
good, I'll confess and she's notshy about telling me that I
call it the Home, sweet Homeseries, and so we had Kitchen
Chronicles, and so we do want totalk about the other things
that we finished out, becausenow the dream was to be able to
(24:25):
sit in the furthest seat in thedining room, the deepest seat,
and see the television in thefamily room, which means you
have to see through the kitchen,through the sitting area, all
the way to the family room, andby golly she did it.
Robin Fenner (24:37):
That was his dream
.
Rudy Fenner (24:38):
I wasn't thinking
about.
Robin Fenner (24:39):
TV quite so much
as the aesthetic of the room.
So wait, wait, wait so what Ithought I'm gonna.
Rudy Fenner (24:44):
Just okay, let me
just be real.
But it works it.
It works, it's okay.
Any men or women listen.
Just let me tell you what Irealize that on Thanksgiving Day
, when you're having this greatThanksgiving feast, a game is on
and you can't see it and therewill be nothing more.
I don't need sound, I just wantthe backdrop of the
Thanksgiving Day, because that'sthe theme.
(25:04):
Or on Christmas Day, I want tohave everybody in.
We're doing Christmas dinnerand it's a wonderful life.
It's playing on the screen.
I don't need the sound, butit's just playing.
It's like a mural in a museumplaying while we're doing our
thing.
Come on now.
Who don't want that?
Robin Fenner (25:18):
yeah, bam, well,
anyway, bam, you got it.
Now I have it, and we kind ofrejiggered the way certain
things were it's amazing, we'replaced in the room.
Rudy Fenner (25:28):
We'll have to put
some pictures up when we do that
.
Robin Fenner (25:30):
We'll do that.
Yeah, we'll share more aboutwhat that looks like when it's
completely finished, but it'salmost there.
Rudy Fenner (25:37):
And I think the
thing that's great was we
learned how I called it ballingon a budget.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah.
Rudy Fenner (25:41):
Because when we did
the family room, we didn't just
, like you said, we didn't havethe designer to come in the
blueprint, it was just y'allgoing at it, you and Rebecca and
Ryan, this crew that we havewho are really like some of our
best friends They've been bestfriends for years who happened
to and that's a whole otherpodcast.
God has already given youeverything that you need.
(26:04):
Sometimes you just need to stop, be quiet and look around, and
we are around friends who areincredibly I mean incredibly
talented we are, yeah, and, andrebecca and ryan.
Robin Fenner (26:16):
Honestly they're
like siblings from another
mother.
I've known both of them, for Iknow I've known ryan for like 25
years yeah rebecca, for maybenot quite that long, but it's
been a minute.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, because yeah,
you used to train her yeah, and
rebecca's like this chick.
Robin Fenner (26:30):
She looks like
Barbie.
Oh, she does, but she's gotmore DeWalt tools than any guy I
know, except maybe Ryan.
Rudy Fenner (26:37):
Yeah, yeah.
She's the kind of woman thatshows up in pearls and this
beautiful dress like she's on arunway at the Oscars, and when
she turns the corner she pullsout a saw and does your.
Robin Fenner (26:51):
Your cabinets.
Rudy Fenner (26:53):
Yeah, your
cabinetry she fixes your
cabinets, she puts them up.
Yeah, she did the cabinetry.
Robin Fenner (26:58):
I mean, we used
some pre-made.
Rudy Fenner (26:59):
I desperately want
to produce a TV show with her
one day, because I just thinkshe'd be an absolute star.
Robin Fenner (27:03):
She'd be amazing.
But yeah, so she did thecabinet work.
Ryan did the cabinet work.
Ryan.
Uh, we changed a wall in therebecause, uh, to be honest, we
had a wood burning fireplace andI don't, I didn't like it, I
don't really it's, it's.
You know, you got to do allthat stuff to start it up.
I want like click and go.
I didn't want to introduce moregas into the house because of
all the things that yeah, yeah,yeah so we went electric and we
(27:26):
got found a fireplace that wereally, really liked.
We just flipped on.
Rudy Fenner (27:29):
And just let me
just say this no one, no one,
loves the fireplace more than mygrandson Finley.
I'm pretty confident in August,when it's 90 degrees, finley is
going to still turn on thefireplace Because it's like in
his mind that TV is connected tothe fireplace and you can't run
(27:50):
one without the other.
Robin Fenner (27:51):
It's like in his
mind that TV is connected to the
fireplace and you can't run onewithout the other.
It's just hilarious.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
But yeah, what we'll
do is we'll do some before and
after photos and I think that'llkind of give people the idea.
Robin Fenner (28:00):
We'll post them.
We'll tell you when they'reposted.
Fabulous, fabulous.
Let me know about that.
Okay, so here's how I've gottenthrough the last let me think
how many least eight months, andthat is by watching suits.
Good gosh, it's a part of mylife now I've been watching.
I started watching it and Icouldn't stop, and right now I'm
watching it for the third timebecause, well, I kind of fell
asleep on some things, notbecause they were boring,
because I I watch it late atnight and then I fall asleep, so
(28:22):
I go back to it and catch soI'm not interested.
Rudy Fenner (28:25):
I'm not interested.
She falls asleep and I watchevery episode.
Robin Fenner (28:28):
He's not
interested interested because
when I'm awake, I watch everyepisode and you walk through the
room you stop and stare andtell me how much you don't like
me, so when she's asleep I'mwatching them.
Rudy Fenner (28:36):
Then when she's up,
I'm trying not to tell her
about what's about to happen,because I've already seen it.
And let me tell you.
Here's what's really funny Ourprevailing conversation and
we're going to do this when wetalk about suits, we're going to
do a podcast on suits.
We have to, because in ourhouse I'm not going to tell you
who is what, but there's onegroup whose position is Mike is
(28:58):
trash and another group whoadamantly defends him with their
life.
Robin Fenner (29:03):
And it is a
hilarious conversation because
the person who says Mike istrash really doesn't have an
adequate reason for saying so.
Rudy Fenner (29:14):
I think Did to
understand who thinks Mike is
trash.
So I am.
I think the show is a successbecause it is an amazing look at
our lives.
Lawyers are the setting, but mygosh, these people are us
comedy drama it is in all butalmost everybody in that show.
(29:36):
We can identify with friends andfamily who's like them, and
that's why we relate to the showis because we have people.
We have the environmentalist.
The environmentalist, to me,that's the person that always
blames everything else.
Nothing ever has anything to dowith him.
That's an environmentalist.
That's Mike.
Everything is alwaysenvironment.
Robin Fenner (29:54):
And then you have
Harvey Mike is trying very hard.
He's done a lot to rehabilitatehimself.
Rudy Fenner (29:58):
Mike is brilliant.
Robin Fenner (30:02):
Mike is like a
serial killer, that doesn't know
why he kills.
Rudy Fenner (30:05):
He's just he can't
stop himself.
He's just like he has a forkand every time he starts to eat
he sticks it in his eye.
Robin Fenner (30:13):
That's not true.
Oh my gosh, it makes you crazy.
You have to watch it foryourself.
Rudy Fenner (30:15):
You know what Mike
reminds me of.
I got to get you to watch UncutGems because in Uncut Gems the
main character in there is justlike Mike it's always other
people.
He can justify the most boo-boobehavior Because in his crazy
mind, yeah.
So yeah, but anyway, that'sgoing to be a fun podcast and
(30:38):
then just talk about the wholewhere it is and what to try to
do with it, and just the rebirthof those characters.
Robin Fenner (30:40):
Well, yeah,
because Suits came out.
I guess they finished recordingmaybe back several years ago
and for some reason it becamethis huge hit on Netflix, and so
we said, okay, crazy, let'stake a look.
And from there on I wasdefinitely hooked.
Um, and someone else whoeverwalked through the room and has
a strong opinion about mike wasobviously hooked too.
Rudy Fenner (31:01):
That's kind of like
a phenomenon, though, to
understand how how a show that'salmost like um mash came back
and just went crazy like that.
That's weird, because it was a.
It was a series that on and offit rebroadcast like everything
else does shoot.
You can watch andy griffinevery day, but those characters
don't come back to life likesuits did.
Robin Fenner (31:20):
But suits doesn't
feel like it's old.
Rudy Fenner (31:22):
It feels very
contemporary maybe that's what
it is, and maybe, maybe, but youknow when they stopped filming.
Robin Fenner (31:26):
It was shortly
after megan and harry got
married because, uh, meganMarkle was on Suits she's one of
the you know stars in the castand when they got married, you
know she left the show and Iguess you know it was and Mike
also.
They both moved away, but butshortly after that, uh, the show
uh wasn't was no longer, youknow, being produced, but, uh,
(31:49):
people have rediscovered it andthere's a a huge bid to bring it
back.
Apparently, they're trying todo some kind of suit spinoff.
Weren't these guys on the SuperBowl commercials?
Rudy Fenner (31:58):
Yeah, they were on
the Super Bowl.
Robin Fenner (31:59):
It's crazy they
were at the award shows this
season, the red carpet, maybeyou had Gina Torres, who is a
boss, oh my gosh.
I love her.
I love Harvey.
I love Louis boss oh my gosh.
And she is just.
I love her.
I love harvey I love lewis lit.
I love all the characters, allthe yeah, yeah, you got lit up
and and also oh gosh, he's sotroubling, he just troubles me
(32:21):
also donna.
She's one of my favorites, uh,but uh, it is really a great
cast and and there are newcharacters who come in, you know
, during the different seasons.
I think there are newcharacters who come in during
the different seasons.
I think there are nine seasonsof it and maybe about 15 or 16
episodes per season, so it cankeep you occupied for a while.
It is to me.
It is the best TV show I'veever watched in my life.
Rudy Fenner (32:41):
You think better
than Dallas.
Yes, better than wait.
You've had a few now.
It's better than Sex and theCity.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
You used to listen to
soap operas on the radio back
in the day, don't?
Robin Fenner (32:50):
tell anybody that
I supplied the radio with a TV
band on it.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Oh my gosh, I know
young people.
Y'all don't even know what I'mtalking about.
That was before we got married.
Just trust me.
Rudy Fenner (33:01):
That's the way we
used to roll.
Robin Fenner (33:02):
So All my Children
used to be one of my favorites.
Rudy Fenner (33:14):
And it is a viewing
, it is not any question about
that the success of it and andnow it's an interesting
challenge, because what to donext?
Robin Fenner (33:23):
well, if they want
, to hear a couple things.
First of all, if they want todo to bring it back.
You know they're talking aboutother people playing different
characters in a different city.
I don't know how that's goingto work, because those of us who
like Suits the way it was likeSuits the way it was.
Rudy Fenner (33:37):
In the middle of
everything, somebody yelled
where's?
Robin Fenner (33:39):
Mike so.
Rudy Fenner (33:41):
I don't, you know.
The thing is this.
Robin Fenner (33:43):
We love the
characters that these human
beings played.
Rudy Fenner (33:45):
Yeah, the dynamic
was incredible, but they are
human beings Incredible dynamic.
Robin Fenner (33:49):
They are doing
some other things now, many of
them Making money.
Rudy Fenner (33:51):
Yeah, trying to get
paid.
Well now everybody's gettingpaid because their popularity
got upped, their faces and theirvoices were upped, and so now
they're commodities and productsto be sold.
So they're all doing theirthing.
Getting back together is tough.
Robin Fenner (34:04):
But some of them
have said you know they read
that.
They said they either want totake a break, you said you
didn't love me no more so I'mgone.
And who doesn't want to take abreak from work sometimes?
Rudy Fenner (34:14):
Wow, what about
that?
Robin Fenner (34:16):
What a concept,
because it really is work for
them.
Some of them are intoproduction Gabriel Mock and
Patrick Adams, smart money,harvey and Mike.
Rudy Fenner (34:26):
It's that gas light
money.
The guys play Harvey and Mike.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
The gas money they're
into producing a lot now.
Robin Fenner (34:32):
Yeah, jan Torres
is on other programs, others are
on other programs, I thinkSarah Rafferty.
She's doing something else too,another show.
But you know, it was just likelightning in a bottle and so I'm
really hopeful, interesting andprayerful that somehow they
find a way to get back together.
Because you, somehow they find away to get back together,
because you know they're doing apodcast too.
(34:52):
They're starting a podcast, uh,yeah, um, I want to say donna
and and mike, because I knowthey're not their real names,
but they're going to be doing apodcast soon about suits,
because it is just one of thosethings that we just can't get
enough of.
Rudy Fenner (35:03):
So there's that
wait, I can't, I cannot leave it
without.
I got to say one thing.
I just need to remember.
Oh, shoot, what's the lawyer'sname, my man, that came on in
the latter part?
(35:23):
Oh, I know what you're talkingabout.
Wait, wait, wait, I can find it, I can find it, I can find it
Wendell Pierce.
Okay, okay, talking about um,wait, wait, wait, I can find it,
I can find it, I can find itwindow pierce okay, so quick
sidebar.
Then we move on because we wantto talk about what I was talking
about.
I'm on an escalator in zara innew york city yeah and I'm going
up the escalator and I lookover and I yell bunk.
(35:46):
And he what's up, brother.
And that was my moment and Ibecame a Wendell Pierce fan.
He has played some fantasticroles.
He was bunk in the Wire.
What is his character?
He's dad.
Robin Fenner (36:03):
Zane.
He's Mr Zane, the attorney Zane.
Yeah, attorney Zane in the show, yep.
Rudy Fenner (36:10):
And what's his
daughter's name in Suits?
Margo Margo.
Robin Fenner (36:12):
What's her
character?
I'm going to call her Rachel.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
He's Rachel's dad
yeah.
Rudy Fenner (36:15):
He's Rachel's dad
and so I will watch him in a
show that I don't like.
My love and commitment forWendell Pierce is at a point
where I don't care what he's in.
I'm going to watch it andsupport it and buy a t-shirt, if
I can buy one, so yeah.
So that, just like I love thatdude and I love everything he's
(36:37):
done and I love that characterand so yeah.
Robin Fenner (36:40):
Weren't you an
extra in the Wire one time or
something?
Rudy Fenner (36:42):
I was an extra in
Homicide.
Life on the Streets.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That was Shout Out to
Baltimore too Same thing, no
streets.
That was shot out of baltimoretoo.
Rudy Fenner (36:50):
Same thing, no, oh
my gosh, if I had been an extra
in the wire, I'd be braggingabout that.
That would be on my bio.
Okay, I don't even have a bio,but I'm a creep one.
Just to say I was an extra inthe wire.
Oh, no, yeah.
Oh, my goodness girl, you justmade my heart move with that
extra in the wires interesting,interesting tidbit.
Robin Fenner (37:05):
Okay, all right,
so that's, that's our pop
culture moment.
But you know, we love popculture and it's just something
that things come up and it's funtalking about it.
So, once in a while we'll becovering some of those things.
Rudy Fenner (37:16):
And we also talked
about.
We wanted to get back to what Icall a family always family
series.
We talked about it.
We did some things withrelationships, but the happily
ever after and for that what I'mproposing anyway, she can
always knock me back these arethings that I'd love to talk
about and happily ever afterjust looking at relationships
(37:36):
and just still dealing with.
I think the core of what we dois relationships.
Almost everything that we talkabout you'll find a piece of it
is about relationships.
When we talk about the kitchen,it ends up being about
relationships.
We talk about everything itcomes back to relationships.
When we talk about the kitchen,it ends up being about
relationships.
We talk about everything itcomes back to relationships.
So we want to just continue toexamine that and look at some,
(37:57):
look at what people are shootingfor, what people are recovering
from, what people aspire to interms of relationships, and just
speak to that.
I think some some.
One thing that I do want to givesome attention as we go forward
with the podcast is some of thegoofball stuff that we've done.
We have, for example, as asociety, had a very interesting
(38:18):
view of a woman who decides notto have kids or who can't have
kids.
Moms have pressured theirdaughters about having kids and
it's like it's a weird thing.
God has called us to do allkinds of things.
We're all over the map in termsof what he's called us to be
and what we're living into andI'm hoping that somewhere that
struck up a conversation aboutbeing more supportive of that.
(38:39):
We have friends that are single, who frequently are outcasts,
and we've done things to createthat and it's like you guys are
weird.
So still, this is my boy.
He's my boy, no matter whetherhe's married or not.
And same thing with this womanshe's one of my girls, these are
my people, and to encourage andto love and embrace that and
not fight it, contradict it andtry to tell people what they
(39:00):
shouldn't be.
I think that's as importantalmost as the things that we
talk about with therelationships and the beauty of
a relationship, the beauty ofbeing who you are and living
into that, and we as people andindividuals supporting that.
We also had a topic married withchildren.
That's one of the mostinteresting dynamics in all of
relationships.
Yeah, Married with children,and I think from the perspective
(39:24):
of just like what I justpicking up on, what I just
talked about being an aunt,being an uncle.
What is that all about?
Because that's evolved overtime, Right, Right, Having kids,
I think.
When we talk about marriage andmost marriages, most marriages
don't have counseling.
The marriages that do havecounseling, they don't have
(39:45):
counseling that talks about kids, and so most conflict comes up
when you have a kid because youain't never talked about it
before.
Robin Fenner (39:52):
Well, I think
people talk about it.
Rudy Fenner (39:53):
Whether they have
counseling or not, they talk
about it Not whether we're goingto spank the child or not.
Robin Fenner (39:56):
But here's what I
think about.
I think sometimes people changetheir minds about things as
time goes on.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
They'll change their
minds about whether you want
kids, whether you want kids Gosh, that's good.
Rudy Fenner (40:04):
Maybe they'll say
we don't want them.
Robin Fenner (40:05):
Gosh, that's good
Well, maybe we'll have a kid you
know that's good, or?
Maybe they think they want themand watch enough and say no, I
don't think I want kids.
Rudy Fenner (40:10):
Yes, yes, this is
fantastic what you're saying.
Robin Fenner (40:13):
So I think people
go through.
I don't think there's one hardanswer to everything, and you
don't.
Rudy Fenner (40:22):
What you've hit on
in this whole relationship game
is being gentle and havingenough grace to allow each other
to grow.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah.
Rudy Fenner (40:32):
And to be willing
to.
When I married you, I didn'tknow, but what I was really
marrying was the person that wasthere and marrying the person
that you were going to become.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah.
Rudy Fenner (40:43):
And I never had
anybody to tell me that, to
prepare for that, to evenenvision you being different.
But my gosh, you are nowherenear the same person now that
you were at 18 years old?
Robin Fenner (40:55):
Well, I hope not,
and you aren't either, because
you hope to grow.
Rudy Fenner (40:58):
Some people are,
but I'm just saying it's just
very different.
So that's a good, funconversation.
Robin Fenner (41:04):
There's a lot to
talk about with all that stuff
and I mean to bring it on home.
Rudy Fenner (41:07):
I still want to
continue to talk about fitness
because I fitness, I fitnesstalks now are different.
We're different.
We have learned so many thingsabout fitness and care,
physically as well as mental.
We never got into the mentalpart of it, but it's something
that I'm trying to.
(41:27):
I'd love to have somebodyeventually in this space to talk
to, to try to understand howdid you and I get through the
whole cancer challenge?
Because mentally, a lot ofpeople divorce from that.
A lot of people just life justnever gets back on track from
that.
A lot of people have a live ina, a fear People just life just
(41:50):
never gets back on track fromthat.
A lot of people live in a feartrap.
After that.
A lot of people are neverreleased from the bondage of is
it going to happen again?
We don't live in that and I'mreally curious now to understand
why.
Because I'm doing things but Idon't understand why or how I'm
doing them.
It it's a good thing, but Iwould love to understand it more
(42:11):
, to perhaps to communicate thatout.
So if people are faced withthose challenges in the future,
or if they currently findthemselves in that position?
What can we do to help?
What do we?
What did we learn that couldhelp other people in that
situation?
Robin Fenner (42:25):
well, I think it's
true we've talked about some of
that a little bit beforebecause we had different roles
and you being a patient and kindof having things kind of paved
for you, a path paved for you tofollow and just being able to
do that was probably veryhelpful in your recovery,
(42:45):
because you didn't have thestress of trying to figure
everything else out.
Rudy Fenner (42:49):
Unimaginable.
We saw people who did not, whowere on their own trying to work
out there's nothing that breaksyour heart more than I'm in a
room waiting to get an infusion,which means and ain't no well
people in that room.
Everybody in the room waitingfor an infusion has something
wrong.
But you're watching a70-something-year-old person
(43:14):
who's being told to get into asystem and log on so that they
can make an appointment to getan infusion, right?
So that means that he's alreadysick.
Something's not right.
They've got to fix it.
And now he's got a technologychallenge that he has to
overcome to just get thetreatment.
And when he finishes thattechnology challenge, he's got
to go back and deal with it overand over, Cause it ain't one
(43:35):
treatment.
Robin Fenner (43:36):
Heartbreaking
Cause, that is, insurance.
Rudy Fenner (43:38):
Heartbreak.
Oh gosh, that's the money.
That's it.
Robin Fenner (43:41):
It's like we can't
do this because that's an
episode, your.
Rudy Fenner (43:43):
That's an episode
by itself, your insurance is not
.
Robin Fenner (43:44):
you don't have the
right insurance here and
wherever you went before, wedon't have their test results.
We can't do anything for youtoday.
Rudy Fenner (43:51):
Well, they just
told me to come here the morning
of my neck dissection.
And this is just a smalldigression, digress for a second
.
I get to, I'm about to havesurgery.
I'm like kind of I'm stoked andnervous, excited, scared, every
emotion imaginable.
And these dudes tell me oh, yougot to pay $2,000 before we can
(44:14):
do this surgery.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Yeah.
Rudy Fenner (44:16):
What.
Robin Fenner (44:17):
Because they told
us something different before.
Yeah, what we talked about it.
Rudy Fenner (44:22):
But I said, and I
mean tell you my girl on the
other side of the plexiglass islike a bodyguard.
You are not getting thissurgery unless I get this $2,000
, which we know we're notsupposed to pay.
But we're at a crossroads hereEither you're going to have the
surgery to remove the canceroustumor from your neck, if you're
going to get it removed, you gotto give me $2,000.
(44:44):
Let me just tell you something.
My wife handled that thing likea pro because I had the mind
and the mental aptitude forabsolutely zero.
Again, I'm about to get cut.
I'm going to a three-hoursurgical procedure and I am not
in a position to think about ortalk about money.
And there's a part of me thatsays, okay, well, cool, let's go
and head on back home.
(45:05):
Because, again, I'm not reallyexcited about getting cut right.
I'm going to make a six-centdecision from your ear to the
middle of your throat, but Ineed this money first.
Oh, I don't have the money.
It's too bad.
I got to go back home, so itwas just a mess.
Robin Fenner (45:18):
Well, we had the
money, I didn't want to pay her
the money.
Because I she should build theinsurance company first.
My heart broke for all thepeople that don't have the money
.
Rudy Fenner (45:28):
Yeah, it's a lot of
people that find themselves in
that they got to havelife-saving surgery.
Yeah, you don't have time forthis.
So those are all.
I'm sorry I got emotional.
Those are episodes unto itself,but those are some of the
things we want to talk about interms of the um, the whole, uh,
health and wellness and fitnessdeal.
(45:49):
And just talking about my wife,hey, I'm gonna tell you
something.
Yo look, this woman has becomea workout beast.
Her level of conditioning shewas never my wife was I.
I ain't shy about this, I'm nota problem.
My wife was always fine.
She was fine when she was 14,13.
I met her when she was 17, andshe's still fine now.
But I'm going to tell yousomething In a fitness
(46:11):
perspective, she's never beenwhere she is now.
Let's just say we're over 50,and she has never been as fit as
she is right now, this moment,today.
So that's a whole thing.
I got to share that becauseshe's humble with it and she's
not going really embrace it.
And I'm kind of glad becauseit'll be really hard to live
(46:31):
with a chick like that thatreally understands how gorgeous
she is and just what.
What kind of power she has but Iwant to make sure that I have
done everything to help any guywho is trying to get fit, any
couple that's trying to get fit,any woman that's trying to get
fit, because I think we haveaccidentally unearthed some
secrets and some tips to thisand how to support each other
(46:55):
and how to help each othermaximize their physical
potential.
I think we have, because Idon't know a lot of couples.
I'll say I don't know a lot ofcouples.
I'll say I know a lot of guysthat are 66, like I am, who have
learned to maximize his fitnessat this age.
I ran a 5K before we did thispodcast and I didn't hobble
(47:20):
through.
I ran through and I'm going tohave a full day after, so it's
not like I'm just barelytripping up.
I'm thriving in this stuff andI think we've unearthed some
things that help us to do that.
Robin Fenner (47:31):
That reminds me
one thing I think you did that
we didn't talk about, was youran that Thanksgiving Day race.
Yes, I did, and you came outand later on, we found out, you
came out what in your age group.
Rudy Fenner (47:40):
I was third place
in my age group, which was
stunning.
Robin Fenner (47:43):
It could have been
three people, but Well, yeah,
keep this in mind.
Rudy Fenner (47:46):
Keep this in mind,
everybody.
that's over 50, all you got todo is, if you can keep your
knees and keep your hips, thenumber of people your age starts
to reduce and you'll advanceand so yeah, so one of the big
things I'm doing we need to do apodcast about that I am going
to start running middle races,middle distance races for my age
group, and I want to do it on astate level and maybe, if I get
(48:09):
good enough, on a nationallevel.
So that's an exciting challenge.
It's an exciting challenge, butwhat it really does is it gives
me incentive and inspires me tostay in shape.
Robin Fenner (48:17):
It's an exciting
challenge for me just to get
through each day and try to planmy next house project.
Rudy Fenner (48:22):
Yeah, I mean you
know okay.
Yeah, yes, she means that.
Robin Fenner (48:28):
Yes, that means
life has calmed down a bit.
Rudy Fenner (48:30):
Yes, it is, and not
as frenzied.
Robin Fenner (48:31):
Oh my gosh, it's
so cool and not as crazy,
because I can just have fundoing something that I enjoy
doing.
Rudy Fenner (48:37):
I am planning time
on the deck.
I am planning it, I'm excitedabout it, and Robin has really
beaten me up, rightfully so.
So about making my scheduleright so we can come home and go
for walks in the evening.
Yes, so we can sit on the deck,have dinner, I can hang out
with the kids talk to each othersometimes and actually have
these conversations, as opposedto podcasts learning about stuff
(48:58):
, because sometimes I writestuff down in a podcast and I
didn't know.
It's like wow, man, you shouldhave known that you shouldn't
have had to do a podcast tofriend that out.
So um, so yeah, we're excited.
Robin Fenner (49:07):
Yeah, also, I'm
not sure when David will have a
chance to finish getting thistogether and getting it out for
us, but in case it's before May11th.
On May 11th, we're working on ahealth and wellness fair at our
church, which is Crossroads.
Rudy Fenner (49:20):
Well, who knew?
Robin Fenner (49:21):
United Methodist
in Ashburn, Virginia.
It is from 10 am to 3 pm andit's going to be a great day of
events.
Our brother-in-law, Daryl Green, is going to be the kickoff
speaker.
Rudy Fenner (49:29):
Yes, sir.
Robin Fenner (49:30):
And we're also
going to have a wonderful
medical panel to come and talkabout heart health, the latest
in cancer developments, cancertreatment developments and
mental health.
So excited we offer manyexercise classes and nutrition
classes and so the people wholead those are going to have
like little mini sessions togive people.
Rudy Fenner (49:49):
Look at what God
did.
This is so good.
Robin Fenner (49:51):
It's what's so
cool.
He's going to take credit forall this himself.
What is so cool?
God is no, I meant you.
Rudy Fenner (49:56):
No, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no.
But, but it did.
It did result from our, ourhealth challenges and from that
God just birthed in in me and inin us.
How do we help people in thisspace?
And all of this is a result ofit.
The health and fitness stuff isa result of it, and so the
(50:17):
health and wellness fair shouldbe fantastic and, and hopefully,
my goal that day is to savesomebody's life good, good for
you you know and I'm.
Robin Fenner (50:25):
One day I'm going
to share the other side of this
and what it's been like toreally be on the other side of
being alongside of you, but in adifferent role, because that's
very different and I think itmight help other people too.
Rudy Fenner (50:37):
Yeah, and honestly
it is so, and you don't know
that.
Yes, I have no clue.
I've been there.
Robin Fenner (50:41):
But it's not the
same as being in those shoes.
This is good, this is good,this is good, but for now, all
right, I think we're winding up,so.
So I think we kind of caughtyou up.
I think we caught up ourselves.
Yeah, we did glad we had thistalk.
Yeah, we have something now weare all going to look forward to
, hopefully, and uh, we're soglad you're with us today this
is good, yeah good to have youback where you been, where y'all
(51:03):
been shoot.
Rudy Fenner (51:04):
We were standing
here with these microphones
waiting all this time.
Robin Fenner (51:07):
Where everybody
been.
Yeah, be sure to follow us onour social media.
Rudy Fenner (51:10):
It's
officiallyfender yes.
Robin Fenner (51:12):
Instagram we do a
little bit of TikTok, but that's
big.
Instagram is our social mediaof choice at the.
Rudy Fenner (51:17):
Moment.
Robin Fenner (51:18):
So check us out
there for everything that's
happening in between.
Look forward to it.
Thanks guys for listening.
Thank you.
Rudy Fenner (51:25):
Be blessed Bye.