November 17, 2021 • 13 mins
Mike Prisuta and Bob Labriola Agree to Disagree on a variety of topics surrounding the Steelers as they head towards their Week 11 matchup with the Chargers.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is agreed to disagree with Mike and Bobola. Well everyone,
and welcome to another should be award winning edition of
Agree to Disagree. The podcast to show with the motto,
um right, he's wrong, We're coming at you. After a
game against winless Detroit, and Detroit is still winless, but
(00:22):
the Steelers did not improve upon their victory total. And
if you didn't go out and tie one on after that, well,
you just weren't paying attention. If you weren't so depressed
that you had to fire up Bruce Springsteen singing the
ties that find you just weren't paying attention, if you
weren't fit to be tied. Laughs. You get the idea
by now, Yeah, I all I know is as soon
(00:45):
as it was over, I went up to my bedroom
and I gathered up all the ties that I had
to wear every day through grade school and every day
through high school. I put them in a nice little pile,
you know, out in the backyard. Scored at a little
lighter fluid on him through the match in there. You know.
I used to give ties to my old man on
Father's Day that weren't as ugly. That's what we saw
(01:08):
on Sunday at nights, and I've seen your taste in clothes,
so I can only yeah, but that was then and
this is now. So let's get to it as the
Steelers getting ready to have to get ready to head
out to Los Angeles and take on the Chargers. First
order of business. I don't care if he isn't cleared
until Sunday afternoon. Ben Roethlisberger starts agree. I mean, I
(01:30):
don't know what we could have possibly learned from that
almost four hours of ugliness at Heinz Field last weekend,
but I can tell you what I learned. Ben Roethlisberger
gives the Steelers the best chance to win, and so UH,
to me, this is different if than him being in
(01:51):
the concussion protocol as an example, or being injured, you know,
having a sore right shoulder, which we've gone through, bad knees,
whatever that might be. I'm starting him because again we
talked about this during the pregame show UH before that game.
One of the things that I believe Ben Roethlisberger brings
(02:12):
UH to the Steelers is a calming influence, a poise
that Mason Rudolph and Dwayne Haskins can't have to this
point in their career because they haven't played enough and
they aren't old enough, and I just I'm starting Ben,
That's what I'm doing. Yeah, agreed, Uh, confirmation for me
on both of those points made by you. And we
(02:34):
did hit that hard on the pregame show because we
usually talk about the right thing and was kind of
the news when that happened. Like the previous night, we
lived in our fears and thought, you know, nobody that's
not named Ben Roethlisberger on the roster is going to
have the poised experience, the understanding, the intuition to the
(02:55):
ability to manage it and do the little things pre
snap or just after the snap happ and figure it out.
And you know, I'm not trying to make every Mason
Rudolph start a referendum as to whether or not, Oh
he might be the guy. No he's not that. I mean,
you're gonna make that decision one way or the other
on more than one game against Detroit. But just his
(03:16):
experience level and Roethlisberger's are light years apart. And and
that's why you need Roethlisberger because you need every edge
you can get if you're the Steelers right now, just
try to you know, massage your way through these games. Yeah.
And the one thing we don't need a referendum on,
in my opinion, is what we know for sure Mason
is not Ben. Whether he could be the guy or
(03:39):
the following Ben, we can talk about that that. Can
you know that? Can um tell? The time will tell
the test of that. But what I know right now
Mason is not Ben. Yeah. The problem is a lot
of guys aren't. And when the time come, and it
might be sooner, it might be later, but they ain't
just going down to the Roethlisberger store and said, yeah,
(04:00):
I'd like another one of those, right the Roethlisburger tree.
Just pick another one of those off the one of
the low hanging branches there. Okay, statement number two. The
biggest names on the injury report are Ben t j
and Minka. But if Mason Rudolph has to start a
quarterback again, the Steelers need Chase Claypool. I'm gonna disagree.
(04:20):
If I have to pick and choose, let me say first,
I'd rather have every healthy body available because another thing
we talked about on the pregame show was the all
hands on deck nature of the game. But I'll take
one of the guards. Um. You know, I get to
Claypool is potentially impactful. I haven't seen enough out of
him this year for for my preference or my expectation.
(04:45):
But this just in. The Chargers are the thirty second
ranked rush defense in the National Football League LAPS. You
know why they're number thirty two because there's no number
thirty three, because there ain't thirty three teams. If you
think they threw it too much in rain against Detroit,
I'm here to tell you you haven't seen anything yet.
They should be running the ball coming off the bus
(05:08):
in Sonny, Los Angeles and ramat down these guys throats,
particularly with their defensive line situation. UH COVID nineteen, as
it turns out, is not uh just afflicting the Steelers.
Uh No, Joey Bosa, Um help the the other defensive lineman.
Say the guy from Notre Dame. It's escaping me. But
(05:28):
he's a pretty good player. He's not only a starter,
he's part of their fore man pass rush on third down.
But you run the ball on these guys. They have
a pretty good safety Darwin James and Asante Samuel Jr.
Is outstanding rookie cornerback. So that separates the Chargers, among
other things, from the Lions. Uh, let's shorten the game,
(05:51):
Let's keep Justin Herbert off the field. Let's run the ball.
So if you're making me pick a guy to bring
back from the injured, uh, I'll picktre Turner. Okay, I'm
gonna disagree with you, um and agree with the statement,
but let me let me with this caveat. I'm not
advocating even thirty passes against the former San Diego Chargers. Uh.
(06:17):
I agree with you. Run run the ball, Run the ball,
Run the ball. However, what did they do after that?
Run the ball? But there are going to be sometimes
I do believe when uh, you know, throwing it is
going to be necessary. Uh. And I think that what
Chase Claypool does. And let me say this again, I
(06:37):
agree with your assessment of him. His second year has
not been as impactful or as dynamic as his rookie season,
but I do believe that his reputation would cause the
Chargers to prepare for him and uh, you know, commit
to him, commit to neutralizing him at least in Sunday's games.
(06:59):
So you know that could even help the running game
if maybe Drwin James has one eye on Chase Claypool
instead of both eyes on nausea Harris. Um. And let
me say this too about the guards. Uh give me
b j Finney. Uh. And the General it was not
(07:20):
bad Joe Haig, he was not so Uh. Yeah, give
me Claypool. But I'm not I'm not committing to utilizing
him as much as people might assume that starts taking
Chase Claypool. Most of the people listening to this probably
are not old enough. General reference, even though it is
(07:41):
one of the favorite references in the media corp because
we've all been doing this forever. Old to General Alexander
Haig is the reference of their kids. Google it. Yes
you too, Tom General. No, it's not. That's not buying tires,
(08:01):
it's auto insurance. And you get that from shock the General.
Isn't there a General tire? Also say that's the commercial.
Get your audience auto insurance from the Generals. General is
a multifaceted guy. Maybe we do need him last, but
not least the idea that just plugging Mason Rudolph into
the game plan that had been devised from Ben Roethlisberger,
(08:23):
that's what costs the Steelers and win against Detroit. Agree.
Why else, because if you devised a game plan from
Mason Rudolph and what alterned it universe would you have
to be living on where you would say, let's have
this guy throw the ball fifty times. That was the
Bend game plan. It was, And I respect the amount
(08:44):
of work that goes into that, you know, uh, and
the practice time you know, and all of that stuff.
And it's not always just about one guy. Um. You know,
when you when you devise something like that and then
you want to decide to change it overnight literally in
this case, uh, to something different. However, I don't I
(09:05):
didn't believe then, I don't believe now. No one will
ever convince me that it was a good idea to
think that you're just gonna plug this guy in. I mean, again,
going back to the first statement, as I said, we
don't need a referendum on knowing this. But what about
is not Bent? What about the standard? Is the standard?
(09:26):
That's a nice again, that's a nice idea, and most
of the time, you know, that's what you want your
players to believe. But as coaches, you have to know
when it's you know, when you're just um, you know,
paying a little lip service maybe to something as opposed
to running around um screaming as they did at the
(09:50):
end of Animal House. You know the world is ending
remain calm all as well. Yeah right, I get where
you're coming from. But I'm gonna disagree because I'm gonna
disagreeable mood and be I was not in favor of
the number of passes out of But you know what
cost him to win against Detroit? Oh, I know, Fante
Johnson fumbling the ball after it had been thrown to
(10:11):
him and he had caught it, and he was on
the Detroit side of the fifty and there wasn't much
time left in the fourth quarter, and their offense had
checked out early in the third, and all you did
it was a field goal. I saw Boswell actually putting
on his helmet as Deante Johnson crossed the fifty um
and I started thinking about how, you know, how was
(10:34):
I going to write about Boswell bailing them out again?
And I kept thinking about that one year, and I
was preparing to look it up. And I understand that
doing research violates the rules, But there was one year
or Boswell, either at the end of regulation or in overtime,
won four games for the Steelers, and I started thinking, okay,
let me see what the year was. That is there
(10:57):
comparisons here based on the Bears game minute to anticipate
so you can deliver when I did that. We'll get
way off tangent here. But the Super Bowl in Arizona
against Dallas, they had a number of comebacks and half
of that season, and when they received the ball that
was a punt right. Uh. Yes, I was looking at
(11:20):
my laptop and trying to come up with my lead
for another comeback. Won the Super Bowl, and then I
heard the crowd yell and I looked up and Larry
Brown was running down the field with the ball. Well,
since we're off the tangent um. I was told this
by someone who was in the Steelers box at the time. Um.
Bill Nunn was yelling, look at the Cowboys defensive players.
(11:42):
Their hands are all on their knees. They're bent over
sucking wind. Run the ball. There you go, there you go?
Um where were we? Oh? Um? Did I give my
opinion already or not? Yeah? I did, Yeah, you did.
It was the fun. I just I just want to
add to that that they actually uh allowed me access
(12:05):
to all the Matt Cannada game plans so far because
I wanted to do a little research and just see
if it was off or not on Sunday and in
every game this year, not one of his game plans
has catch the ball and then fumble it when we're
about to kick a field goal and win the game.
So I think any plan you execute for any person,
you can think of when you make that kind of mistake,
(12:27):
which is avoidable if you have a little presence and
a little understanding of where you are and what's going on,
and where you are in the game and how critical
a spot it is. If you just hold the ball there,
you can remain did you could have remained calm because
all would have been well since you did this research,
let me ask you this, did you happen to notice
how many of those game plans had Ray Ray McLeod
(12:50):
targeted twelve times in the rain and the cold. Just
just curious. I can't tell you. Okay, that'll do it
for another should be award winning edition. When are we
gonna start winning getting these awards? I mean you're right
about that, as am I. We should be winning a
lot of awards, you know. I there should be one
(13:13):
of those Awards shows just for us. Would you just
take turns walking up and down to you to the stage.
Did you put it on postage on the on the
envelope we get act surprised and the winner again. Oh
my god, we want again like we do all along, right, exactly,
agree to disagree. The show of the motto, um right,
he's wrong. Run the ball, Run the ball, run the ball,
(13:36):
Run the ball again, run it some more.
This is agreed to disagree with Mike and Bobola. Well everyone,
and welcome to another should be award winning edition of
Agree to Disagree. The podcast to show with the motto,
um right, he's wrong, We're coming at you. After a
game against winless Detroit, and Detroit is still winless, but
(00:22):
the Steelers did not improve upon their victory total. And
if you didn't go out and tie one on after that, well,
you just weren't paying attention. If you weren't so depressed
that you had to fire up Bruce Springsteen singing the
ties that find you just weren't paying attention, if you
weren't fit to be tied. Laughs. You get the idea
by now, Yeah, I all I know is as soon
(00:45):
as it was over, I went up to my bedroom
and I gathered up all the ties that I had
to wear every day through grade school and every day
through high school. I put them in a nice little pile,
you know, out in the backyard. Scored at a little
lighter fluid on him through the match in there. You know.
I used to give ties to my old man on
Father's Day that weren't as ugly. That's what we saw
(01:08):
on Sunday at nights, and I've seen your taste in clothes,
so I can only yeah, but that was then and
this is now. So let's get to it as the
Steelers getting ready to have to get ready to head
out to Los Angeles and take on the Chargers. First
order of business. I don't care if he isn't cleared
until Sunday afternoon. Ben Roethlisberger starts agree. I mean, I
(01:30):
don't know what we could have possibly learned from that
almost four hours of ugliness at Heinz Field last weekend,
but I can tell you what I learned. Ben Roethlisberger
gives the Steelers the best chance to win, and so UH,
to me, this is different if than him being in
(01:51):
the concussion protocol as an example, or being injured, you know,
having a sore right shoulder, which we've gone through, bad knees,
whatever that might be. I'm starting him because again we
talked about this during the pregame show UH before that game.
One of the things that I believe Ben Roethlisberger brings
(02:12):
UH to the Steelers is a calming influence, a poise
that Mason Rudolph and Dwayne Haskins can't have to this
point in their career because they haven't played enough and
they aren't old enough, and I just I'm starting Ben,
That's what I'm doing. Yeah, agreed, Uh, confirmation for me
on both of those points made by you. And we
(02:34):
did hit that hard on the pregame show because we
usually talk about the right thing and was kind of
the news when that happened. Like the previous night, we
lived in our fears and thought, you know, nobody that's
not named Ben Roethlisberger on the roster is going to
have the poised experience, the understanding, the intuition to the
(02:55):
ability to manage it and do the little things pre
snap or just after the snap happ and figure it out.
And you know, I'm not trying to make every Mason
Rudolph start a referendum as to whether or not, Oh
he might be the guy. No he's not that. I mean,
you're gonna make that decision one way or the other
on more than one game against Detroit. But just his
(03:16):
experience level and Roethlisberger's are light years apart. And and
that's why you need Roethlisberger because you need every edge
you can get if you're the Steelers right now, just
try to you know, massage your way through these games. Yeah.
And the one thing we don't need a referendum on,
in my opinion, is what we know for sure Mason
is not Ben. Whether he could be the guy or
(03:39):
the following Ben, we can talk about that that. Can
you know that? Can um tell? The time will tell
the test of that. But what I know right now
Mason is not Ben. Yeah. The problem is a lot
of guys aren't. And when the time come, and it
might be sooner, it might be later, but they ain't
just going down to the Roethlisberger store and said, yeah,
(04:00):
I'd like another one of those, right the Roethlisburger tree.
Just pick another one of those off the one of
the low hanging branches there. Okay, statement number two. The
biggest names on the injury report are Ben t j
and Minka. But if Mason Rudolph has to start a
quarterback again, the Steelers need Chase Claypool. I'm gonna disagree.
(04:20):
If I have to pick and choose, let me say first,
I'd rather have every healthy body available because another thing
we talked about on the pregame show was the all
hands on deck nature of the game. But I'll take
one of the guards. Um. You know, I get to
Claypool is potentially impactful. I haven't seen enough out of
him this year for for my preference or my expectation.
(04:45):
But this just in. The Chargers are the thirty second
ranked rush defense in the National Football League LAPS. You
know why they're number thirty two because there's no number
thirty three, because there ain't thirty three teams. If you
think they threw it too much in rain against Detroit,
I'm here to tell you you haven't seen anything yet.
They should be running the ball coming off the bus
(05:08):
in Sonny, Los Angeles and ramat down these guys throats,
particularly with their defensive line situation. UH COVID nineteen, as
it turns out, is not uh just afflicting the Steelers.
Uh No, Joey Bosa, Um help the the other defensive lineman.
Say the guy from Notre Dame. It's escaping me. But
(05:28):
he's a pretty good player. He's not only a starter,
he's part of their fore man pass rush on third down.
But you run the ball on these guys. They have
a pretty good safety Darwin James and Asante Samuel Jr.
Is outstanding rookie cornerback. So that separates the Chargers, among
other things, from the Lions. Uh, let's shorten the game,
(05:51):
Let's keep Justin Herbert off the field. Let's run the ball.
So if you're making me pick a guy to bring
back from the injured, uh, I'll picktre Turner. Okay, I'm
gonna disagree with you, um and agree with the statement,
but let me let me with this caveat. I'm not
advocating even thirty passes against the former San Diego Chargers. Uh.
(06:17):
I agree with you. Run run the ball, Run the ball,
Run the ball. However, what did they do after that?
Run the ball? But there are going to be sometimes
I do believe when uh, you know, throwing it is
going to be necessary. Uh. And I think that what
Chase Claypool does. And let me say this again, I
(06:37):
agree with your assessment of him. His second year has
not been as impactful or as dynamic as his rookie season,
but I do believe that his reputation would cause the
Chargers to prepare for him and uh, you know, commit
to him, commit to neutralizing him at least in Sunday's games.
(06:59):
So you know that could even help the running game
if maybe Drwin James has one eye on Chase Claypool
instead of both eyes on nausea Harris. Um. And let
me say this too about the guards. Uh give me
b j Finney. Uh. And the General it was not
(07:20):
bad Joe Haig, he was not so Uh. Yeah, give
me Claypool. But I'm not I'm not committing to utilizing
him as much as people might assume that starts taking
Chase Claypool. Most of the people listening to this probably
are not old enough. General reference, even though it is
(07:41):
one of the favorite references in the media corp because
we've all been doing this forever. Old to General Alexander
Haig is the reference of their kids. Google it. Yes
you too, Tom General. No, it's not. That's not buying tires,
(08:01):
it's auto insurance. And you get that from shock the General.
Isn't there a General tire? Also say that's the commercial.
Get your audience auto insurance from the Generals. General is
a multifaceted guy. Maybe we do need him last, but
not least the idea that just plugging Mason Rudolph into
the game plan that had been devised from Ben Roethlisberger,
(08:23):
that's what costs the Steelers and win against Detroit. Agree.
Why else, because if you devised a game plan from
Mason Rudolph and what alterned it universe would you have
to be living on where you would say, let's have
this guy throw the ball fifty times. That was the
Bend game plan. It was, And I respect the amount
(08:44):
of work that goes into that, you know, uh, and
the practice time you know, and all of that stuff.
And it's not always just about one guy. Um. You know,
when you when you devise something like that and then
you want to decide to change it overnight literally in
this case, uh, to something different. However, I don't I
(09:05):
didn't believe then, I don't believe now. No one will
ever convince me that it was a good idea to
think that you're just gonna plug this guy in. I mean, again,
going back to the first statement, as I said, we
don't need a referendum on knowing this. But what about
is not Bent? What about the standard? Is the standard?
(09:26):
That's a nice again, that's a nice idea, and most
of the time, you know, that's what you want your
players to believe. But as coaches, you have to know
when it's you know, when you're just um, you know,
paying a little lip service maybe to something as opposed
to running around um screaming as they did at the
(09:50):
end of Animal House. You know the world is ending
remain calm all as well. Yeah right, I get where
you're coming from. But I'm gonna disagree because I'm gonna
disagreeable mood and be I was not in favor of
the number of passes out of But you know what
cost him to win against Detroit? Oh, I know, Fante
Johnson fumbling the ball after it had been thrown to
(10:11):
him and he had caught it, and he was on
the Detroit side of the fifty and there wasn't much
time left in the fourth quarter, and their offense had
checked out early in the third, and all you did
it was a field goal. I saw Boswell actually putting
on his helmet as Deante Johnson crossed the fifty um
and I started thinking about how, you know, how was
(10:34):
I going to write about Boswell bailing them out again?
And I kept thinking about that one year, and I
was preparing to look it up. And I understand that
doing research violates the rules, But there was one year
or Boswell, either at the end of regulation or in overtime,
won four games for the Steelers, and I started thinking, okay,
let me see what the year was. That is there
(10:57):
comparisons here based on the Bears game minute to anticipate
so you can deliver when I did that. We'll get
way off tangent here. But the Super Bowl in Arizona
against Dallas, they had a number of comebacks and half
of that season, and when they received the ball that
was a punt right. Uh. Yes, I was looking at
(11:20):
my laptop and trying to come up with my lead
for another comeback. Won the Super Bowl, and then I
heard the crowd yell and I looked up and Larry
Brown was running down the field with the ball. Well,
since we're off the tangent um. I was told this
by someone who was in the Steelers box at the time. Um.
Bill Nunn was yelling, look at the Cowboys defensive players.
(11:42):
Their hands are all on their knees. They're bent over
sucking wind. Run the ball. There you go, there you go?
Um where were we? Oh? Um? Did I give my
opinion already or not? Yeah? I did, Yeah, you did.
It was the fun. I just I just want to
add to that that they actually uh allowed me access
(12:05):
to all the Matt Cannada game plans so far because
I wanted to do a little research and just see
if it was off or not on Sunday and in
every game this year, not one of his game plans
has catch the ball and then fumble it when we're
about to kick a field goal and win the game.
So I think any plan you execute for any person,
you can think of when you make that kind of mistake,
(12:27):
which is avoidable if you have a little presence and
a little understanding of where you are and what's going on,
and where you are in the game and how critical
a spot it is. If you just hold the ball there,
you can remain did you could have remained calm because
all would have been well since you did this research,
let me ask you this, did you happen to notice
how many of those game plans had Ray Ray McLeod
(12:50):
targeted twelve times in the rain and the cold. Just
just curious. I can't tell you. Okay, that'll do it
for another should be award winning edition. When are we
gonna start winning getting these awards? I mean you're right
about that, as am I. We should be winning a
lot of awards, you know. I there should be one
(13:13):
of those Awards shows just for us. Would you just
take turns walking up and down to you to the stage.
Did you put it on postage on the on the
envelope we get act surprised and the winner again. Oh
my god, we want again like we do all along, right, exactly,
agree to disagree. The show of the motto, um right,
he's wrong. Run the ball, Run the ball, run the ball,
(13:36):
Run the ball again, run it some more.
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