December 22, 2021 • 18 mins
Mike Prisuta and Bob Labriola are back with another should be award winning edition of Agree 2 Disagree, the show where I'm right and he's wrong. The two kick around a variety of topics ahead of Steelers Chiefs Sunday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is agree to disagree with my present and Bobola,
oh oh oh, welcome to what should be another award
winning Christmas edition of agree to disagree weight. Before we
get any farther than that, what do you think of
my shirt? It's fantastic. Did see? You know? I was
getting some heat about well, you know, I did see
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when I when I make a stupid promise on the air,
I don't do anything like Jim Rooker did the Pirates
broadcast when they were beating us the snot out of
the Phillies and said, if the Pirates lose this game
or vice versa, I'll walk home. It was, and then
he had to walk home from Philadelphia. Yeah, so I
wasn't gonna say that. Or when Cope said in seventy
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six if the steel when they were one and four,
if the Steelers come back this season and make the playoffs,
I'll swim across the Man River in February, which he
had to do. Um funny line. He back then he
could probably walk across. He swam. He swam across, and
apparently he got sick because he got water and it's
(01:10):
none not water, and it's uh, you know, because some
kind of bacterial thing internally, so there was bacteria in
the morning. But Coach's line was, this isn't the first
time my not being able to keep my mouth shut
in trouble. Well, I'm happy you you owned up. Speaking
of shirts, you you only went halfway on the open.
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Since it is the Christmas season, and since die Hard
is clearly a Christmas movie, you should have opened with
Now I have a machine gun, Ho ho ho, because
that's what was on the guy's shirt when they set
him down the elevator. Bruce Willis, let me just say this,
all those lists of the ten best Christmas movies, if
it's it's bad Santa is number one, isn't number one,
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it's a bad list. The staple in the Pursuit of Household,
I've already seen it twice every Christmas morning while we
opened the President, I can't wait. I can't wait all
that way and you've gotta have the unrated version to otherwise.
There's a lot of movies like that. But anyway, the
show at the motto right, he's wrong, Okay, let's get
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right to it. Speaking of being right, Mike Tomlin is right.
They're not being beating the chiefs boy ever, I don't
know if I've ever agreed with Mike Tomlin more than
I agree with this statement. But I'm here to tell
you let the track meet commenced, because I know the
Chiefs had a little stretch where they were giving up
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fewer than ten points and people were actually saying, Oh,
they can play deefense. No, no, they can't. Now, I
mean Chris. The game I saw against the Chargers, Jones
didn't play their best rusher. That's obviously a key guy
to miss, but this is not a team that kills
the pocket. The linebackers are average at best, other than
the rookie Nick Bolton out of Missouri, their second round pick. Boy,
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did he become a player. I thought you were gonna
go with Melvin Ingram and I was gonna have Melvin Melvin.
Who a guy is invisible? The only time I noticed
him in the Chargers game was when he came in
as an unblocked rusher and still wasn't able to get
the sack because Justin Herbert came the little oaky doke
and he went swimming around in the air. Uh. Hey,
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I'm all on the Derrek Tuska train. After that play
he made against Ryan Tannehill drawing a holding penalty. The
striped sack critical play in that game. I'm see Melvin ing.
I didn't see him do that last game. I look
at the stats. He's done nothing via condos, Buddy mirror,
who cares? But and in the secondary for Kansas City,
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I know the honey Badger's got a reputation as a
ball hawk. I'll tell you what, he doesn't have a
reputation as a physical tackler, a guy who will hit
a guy and not getting knocked backwards while the guy
falls five yards forward. So you think that Alabama running
back might run over the l s U safety like
he's probably did a couple of times in college. And
I think those dbs they don't play the ball particularly well. Uh,
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if you have combat catch kind of receivers, you can
throw it into tight windows and get away with it
against these guys. Pull out the starter's pistol let the
track me. I know the Steelers sound exactly looked like
Jesse Owens and really ever but I think you know
you got Roethlisbrooger, You've got Claypool, you got Harris, you
maybe Deante, you got some weaponry here. Maybe you can
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work for that. That's the only way to ken work.
Let's do it that way. I agree with you probably
about this more than I've ever agreed with you in
the history of this show. And I'm just gonna throw
out one statu The Chiefs have lost four games. Three
of the four UH teams that beat them scored over
thirty to beat them, and the only team that didn't
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was Tennessee and they scored twenty seven. So you gotta
be you gotta be at the thirty. That's a that's
a good number to shoot for. Thirty. Maybe you don't
have to get all the way there, but no, you're
probably gotta get to thirty eight. But you gotta get
to thirty one. I again, Um, thirty to me is
is the bare minimum. And then whatever you need after that.
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And let's let me go back to the Chargers game again. Bob,
Chargers got twenty eight. Now, they didn't score in overtime,
Kansas City did, but the amount of stuff they left
on the field they dropped two touchdown passes dropped them.
They fumbled at the two yard line or the one
yard line. Charges could have got forty five. They didn't,
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but they could have. So Yeah, I think that defense
is susceptible. Okay, let's move on second statement. In terms
of tackles against the Titans, Joe Haden's this year was
better than Robertsplane's last year. Absolutely. I know it wasn't
as dramatic. You know Derrick Henry the runaway freight train
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explain jumping into the hole and digging his heels in
on the right side of the What was that in
the first quarter? No, it was in the second half.
Was it in the second half? Yes? But was it
was it at the end of the game where if
that play is not made you might lose. No, it
was not. And because that play was made, was the
game over? No, it's not. And Joe Hayden, because that
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if that play wasn't made, maybe your playoff hopes are extinguished.
I know that didn't happen either. Nice little cherry on
top of the Christmas cake. I'm glad you chose to
use this topic because I just wanted to talk about
Joe Hayden today. What a what a remarkable effort he
missed a month um. He was physical, He covered people
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like Tomal, talked about the tangible and the intangible that
he brings to the table and then listening to him
describe that play and the immediate aftermath of sensing what
might happen and digging his heels in on the right
side of the line formed tackle. Didn't even let the
guy stretch the ball. I mean to me, I don't know,
you're not necessary at least nostalgic as I am usually,
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But I'm watching that game and a part of me
kind of left my body for a little minute, and
I wasn't in this. Okay, there's six six and one
and this season has really gone off the rail seventeen times.
Part of me was at a Steeler's home game in December,
gray day, cold, hard hitting game, something at stake and
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the defense comes up big at together. That was that
was kind of a quintessential Steelers football play to me historically.
I loved it. Yeah, and I've I've always always always
been a Joe Hayden fan. Um. I think that you know,
he is exactly, um the kind of cornerback that the
Steelers have not been able to draft because you're not
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You're never that high. I mean, that's where you get.
You gotta get guys like Joe Hayden in the top
ten of the first round because if you don't, if
you don't, somebody else will. Um. And so you know,
all of the criticism them that's directed at Kevin Colbert
and the Steelers for you know, they're bad record of
drafting corner as well. If you're picking them third round,
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in fifth round, you're you're picking through the you know,
it's like one of the office holiday party. Um, and
you're you're you're fishing around in the crumbs in the
cookie tan. I mean, everybody ate all the good cookies,
those peanut butter ones with the hershey kiss in the middle,
and you know the pizels if you know you have
a little Italian maybe who happens to be, you know,
(08:28):
on the payroll. You know, the good ones are the
the they're called different things by different people. My grandmother
called them snowballs, the ones with the white powder sugars. Well, right,
because I was just gonna say, my wife calls them
something else because she only wishes she was Italian instead
of actually being Italian, which is a you know, it's
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it's like the reservation in the Seinfeld show. Um. You know,
she she knows how to act Italian, but she isn't
actually an Italian. That's and that's the most important, portant,
most important part of it. Okay, So back to the
statement I agree with you as well, um, and the
two points I'll make quick. The first one is that
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on Splain's tax, you could actually take your time. We
could do this as long as we want. Well, I mean,
I know you have lots of lots of things to do.
I mean, your fans are out there, they're starting to
gather outside right now. Um. Two plays after Splain's tackle,
Derrick Henry punched it into the Anaza. So I mean,
and really, the significant thing I think about the Robert
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Splain tackle was it announced his presence as a legitimate
NFL inside linebacker with authority, with authority. Yes, what are
you doing, nuke trying to announce my presence with authority?
You're trying to what, um a little bit, but but
but that's a baseball movie. Not a Christmas movie, I know,
but a baseball movie, which strike too, um, And to
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express your distain for basement guys on a roll. Hey,
when you're right where you're well dressed, you're well a ddressed.
When you're right, you're right. You know, I wish I
could have gotten a little picture you here, but I
and I only wear it when we're in the same room.
And you notice how I arranged the seating so because
the arrow is pointing, you know, to my left, and
you're sitting there, arrows not pointing up. However, it's just
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right and kind of sideways. Um. I think that's a
metaphor for something. And the and the Hayden Hayden tackle,
as you mentioned, Um, you know, did a lot more
significant things. And if and if the Steelers do end
up um squeezing into the playoffs, I think we'll be
able to point to that play as one of the
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significant ones down the stretch that helped them do just that.
Even if they don't, I hope it's remembered, you know.
It's it's hard to have one without the other. I mean,
would we remember the Immaculate Extension if it didn't win
the division right there and eliminate the Raves? But boy,
what just what I mean? Bob, You and not both
go back to the eighties on this stuff, and there
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are still times when I just wow, did I just
see what I saw? It? It's so entertaining. It really
that's why you like football, right, it comes one play
make it or don't win or lose. Great. Great, there's
there's been a couple of those this year. Hardball at
the end of the game. Um, I'm with him, by
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the way, what he's doing, I've seen his secondary, Well
it ain't working. But they almost beat the Packers with
that secondary. So you know this whole Aaron Rodgers, they
call almost winning losing. Okay, statement number three. A loss
on Sunday to the Chiefs doesn't hurt the Steelers playoff
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chances as much as as a postponement of that game would.
And by postponement in that game, you mean they played eventually,
just postponement. I didn't say cancelation, Okay. I just want
to make sure everybody listening is on the same page
because I don't want to give them too much credit,
that's for sure, because their their judgment is garbage anyway,
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since I'm gonna disagree, it sounds to me, I don't
want to put words in your mouth like there are
words on your shirt. It sounds to me like it's
a foregone conclusion they're gonna lose the Chiefs games. You
just want to get it over with and not mess
up the routine. The rest of the way for the
really important division games. To quote a famous ex Steelers coach,
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that's an accurate statement. Okay, I only think they have
about a chance to lose this Chief's game. I could
dut duck maybe possibly perhaps, so I'm not gonna concede
the loss. So no, I think the LASS will be
more damaging. Okay, Well, um, I I I don't if
if the Steelers beat the two a f C North
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teams remaining on their schedule with the tie that they
have which keeps them out a lot of tiebreaker situations. Um,
you know, I think it's a better thing for them
when it all all the dust settles on January. What
is that nine, eight, ninth, Okay, when the regular season
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is over. Um. But because it's not that they need
to beat the two division teams for tiebreakers, they need
to beat the two division teams to give them losses.
I gotta get to nine wins and and keep them
from getting to tens. Yes, and so beating the Chiefs
but losing to the Ravens, say, are beating the Chiefs
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and losing to the Browns. Depending upon what happens, maybe
they get to ten wins if the Steelers don't take
care of their own business with beating those North teams.
So that's why, Um, you know, I don't think you know,
you very eloquently um posed the scenario where you know,
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the Steelers could win this in a shootout. Um, but yeah,
about fifteen percent chance that happening, right, Well, you know,
and I think that's pretty optimistic. It might be optimistic
because the only time the Steelers have only scored thirty
or more points in a game one time this year,
and that wasn't that wasn't that loss to the Chargers. No,
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I just don't you think that. You know, all year
has gotten in its own way. Absolutely again, I know
what's up with the line and everything, but there's still
more there that the other day was. But I mean,
as great as that Hayden play was, I was watching
that offense continue to get set up on a plus
side of the fifty and then go three it out
and kick a field goal, and just my palms were up, like,
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what is going on out there? Yeah? Well like that
Vince Lombardi NFL film clip grab grab, grab, grab grab,
What the hell is going on out there? Nobody's tackling.
I'll do better than that, I'm with you, but to me,
four teen games in thirteen fourteen games in um, you
are what you are? Uh, And I just don't see. Um.
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You know, we're talking about the line a lot, and
that deserves conversation, but um, you know the play selection
is any of this gonna change? Uh? And here's another thing.
That another reason why I'm kind of conceding the game
against the Chiefs. They really can't go no huddle from
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the beginning because you take that line into that stadium
and expect them know what's going on. You're gonna be
taking your Hall of Fame quarterback out feet first maybe
and then everything's down the dumper. But really the other reason,
I think they have a modicum, you know, a perceptible chance.
It's a small, low percentage, but Kansas City, I think
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the ratio and the Chargers game was forty seven passes
and twenty runs and a couple three of the runs
were Mahomes scrambling charges. At the thirty one rated run
defense number thirty one, they can't stop the run either, Chiefs.
The Chiefs are not gonna come out and run the
ball down the Steelers throats because they don't do that.
Because Andy Rea refuses, so back to his days with
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the Eagles. So it's actually a good matchup in that record, right, No,
I'm half kidding, like Kansas City's not gonna come out
with an extra line and a fullback and just pound
the ball and and win the game twenty four to
three and control it all day because it's not who
the Chiefs are and it's not what they do. Right,
He's not gonna turn Patrick Homes into a mailman. So
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I mean, I get that. It's you know, pretty dangerous
the other way too, but at least you're bringing t. J.
Watt into the equation. You're bringing tip picks into the
equation to make all kinds of stuff that the Steelers
are actually okay, you know, like, yeah, this is they
would rather you do that. So yeah, go ahead, my
Home's throat. You're playing right into their hands until you're
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throwing into tyreek Kill's hands and then he's gone. He's
I think he's more dangerous. Um that they're both pretty nage. Yeah, Hey,
I like Chuck the Mill always used to say, how
would you rather die and a fire or suffocated? Just
while we're on the subject to Hill it occurs, it
has occurred to me. He's not just a fast he
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can catch a fast ball. He has good yeah, you
know he's and you know how the Steelers throw a
flank or screen and you throw it sideways and everybody
stands around and you might fall forward for three This
guy catches it, tucks it and goes right. If you're
not right on top of that, that could be a
big play for them. Oh, there's there are There are
a lot of things that could be a big play
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for them. And I'm here, I'm here to tell you
this too. Um. You know, I looked up some of
the Chiefs recent games. Thirteen nothing, ten nothing, twenty eight nothing.
If they can do that too, they can. And if
it gets to that a couple of scores fourteen nothing early,
I think that percentage goes up from eight five to
maybe or higher yeah or higher. Yeah, I got it.
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Just got a match from I hope you get the
ball left. So that's gonna do it for this edition
of Agree to disagree, I just want to alert my
partner here my pursuit of um. We start with linguini
and clam sauce on Christmas Eve, and then we go
to the stuff Callamari the shrimp cocktail, some bake whitefish
later and then if there's any room after that, maybe
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have some more stuff, Callamari and shrimp cocktail. But it's
not actually seven or you just sort of make an
effort to know. I mean, we used to. My mom
used to try to, you know, get to seven. But
then my dad, the practical human being that he's always been,
just said, why don't we just eat the ones that
we really like? So what you're telling me is like,
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like in a lot of things, sometimes it's really hard
to get seven. Right, we kick and Christmas eve don
we kick a red zone field. All right, talk to
you all next week.
This is agree to disagree with my present and Bobola,
oh oh oh, welcome to what should be another award
winning Christmas edition of agree to disagree weight. Before we
get any farther than that, what do you think of
my shirt? It's fantastic. Did see? You know? I was
getting some heat about well, you know, I did see
(00:24):
when I when I make a stupid promise on the air,
I don't do anything like Jim Rooker did the Pirates
broadcast when they were beating us the snot out of
the Phillies and said, if the Pirates lose this game
or vice versa, I'll walk home. It was, and then
he had to walk home from Philadelphia. Yeah, so I
wasn't gonna say that. Or when Cope said in seventy
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six if the steel when they were one and four,
if the Steelers come back this season and make the playoffs,
I'll swim across the Man River in February, which he
had to do. Um funny line. He back then he
could probably walk across. He swam. He swam across, and
apparently he got sick because he got water and it's
(01:10):
none not water, and it's uh, you know, because some
kind of bacterial thing internally, so there was bacteria in
the morning. But Coach's line was, this isn't the first
time my not being able to keep my mouth shut
in trouble. Well, I'm happy you you owned up. Speaking
of shirts, you you only went halfway on the open.
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Since it is the Christmas season, and since die Hard
is clearly a Christmas movie, you should have opened with
Now I have a machine gun, Ho ho ho, because
that's what was on the guy's shirt when they set
him down the elevator. Bruce Willis, let me just say this,
all those lists of the ten best Christmas movies, if
it's it's bad Santa is number one, isn't number one,
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it's a bad list. The staple in the Pursuit of Household,
I've already seen it twice every Christmas morning while we
opened the President, I can't wait. I can't wait all
that way and you've gotta have the unrated version to otherwise.
There's a lot of movies like that. But anyway, the
show at the motto right, he's wrong, Okay, let's get
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right to it. Speaking of being right, Mike Tomlin is right.
They're not being beating the chiefs boy ever, I don't
know if I've ever agreed with Mike Tomlin more than
I agree with this statement. But I'm here to tell
you let the track meet commenced, because I know the
Chiefs had a little stretch where they were giving up
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fewer than ten points and people were actually saying, Oh,
they can play deefense. No, no, they can't. Now, I
mean Chris. The game I saw against the Chargers, Jones
didn't play their best rusher. That's obviously a key guy
to miss, but this is not a team that kills
the pocket. The linebackers are average at best, other than
the rookie Nick Bolton out of Missouri, their second round pick. Boy,
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did he become a player. I thought you were gonna
go with Melvin Ingram and I was gonna have Melvin Melvin.
Who a guy is invisible? The only time I noticed
him in the Chargers game was when he came in
as an unblocked rusher and still wasn't able to get
the sack because Justin Herbert came the little oaky doke
and he went swimming around in the air. Uh. Hey,
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I'm all on the Derrek Tuska train. After that play
he made against Ryan Tannehill drawing a holding penalty. The
striped sack critical play in that game. I'm see Melvin ing.
I didn't see him do that last game. I look
at the stats. He's done nothing via condos, Buddy mirror,
who cares? But and in the secondary for Kansas City,
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I know the honey Badger's got a reputation as a
ball hawk. I'll tell you what, he doesn't have a
reputation as a physical tackler, a guy who will hit
a guy and not getting knocked backwards while the guy
falls five yards forward. So you think that Alabama running
back might run over the l s U safety like
he's probably did a couple of times in college. And
I think those dbs they don't play the ball particularly well. Uh,
(04:06):
if you have combat catch kind of receivers, you can
throw it into tight windows and get away with it
against these guys. Pull out the starter's pistol let the
track me. I know the Steelers sound exactly looked like
Jesse Owens and really ever but I think you know
you got Roethlisbrooger, You've got Claypool, you got Harris, you
maybe Deante, you got some weaponry here. Maybe you can
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work for that. That's the only way to ken work.
Let's do it that way. I agree with you probably
about this more than I've ever agreed with you in
the history of this show. And I'm just gonna throw
out one statu The Chiefs have lost four games. Three
of the four UH teams that beat them scored over
thirty to beat them, and the only team that didn't
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was Tennessee and they scored twenty seven. So you gotta
be you gotta be at the thirty. That's a that's
a good number to shoot for. Thirty. Maybe you don't
have to get all the way there, but no, you're
probably gotta get to thirty eight. But you gotta get
to thirty one. I again, Um, thirty to me is
is the bare minimum. And then whatever you need after that.
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And let's let me go back to the Chargers game again. Bob,
Chargers got twenty eight. Now, they didn't score in overtime,
Kansas City did, but the amount of stuff they left
on the field they dropped two touchdown passes dropped them.
They fumbled at the two yard line or the one
yard line. Charges could have got forty five. They didn't,
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but they could have. So Yeah, I think that defense
is susceptible. Okay, let's move on second statement. In terms
of tackles against the Titans, Joe Haden's this year was
better than Robertsplane's last year. Absolutely. I know it wasn't
as dramatic. You know Derrick Henry the runaway freight train
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explain jumping into the hole and digging his heels in
on the right side of the What was that in
the first quarter? No, it was in the second half.
Was it in the second half? Yes? But was it
was it at the end of the game where if
that play is not made you might lose. No, it
was not. And because that play was made, was the
game over? No, it's not. And Joe Hayden, because that
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if that play wasn't made, maybe your playoff hopes are extinguished.
I know that didn't happen either. Nice little cherry on
top of the Christmas cake. I'm glad you chose to
use this topic because I just wanted to talk about
Joe Hayden today. What a what a remarkable effort he
missed a month um. He was physical, He covered people
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like Tomal, talked about the tangible and the intangible that
he brings to the table and then listening to him
describe that play and the immediate aftermath of sensing what
might happen and digging his heels in on the right
side of the line formed tackle. Didn't even let the
guy stretch the ball. I mean to me, I don't know,
you're not necessary at least nostalgic as I am usually,
(07:02):
But I'm watching that game and a part of me
kind of left my body for a little minute, and
I wasn't in this. Okay, there's six six and one
and this season has really gone off the rail seventeen times.
Part of me was at a Steeler's home game in December,
gray day, cold, hard hitting game, something at stake and
(07:24):
the defense comes up big at together. That was that
was kind of a quintessential Steelers football play to me historically.
I loved it. Yeah, and I've I've always always always
been a Joe Hayden fan. Um. I think that you know,
he is exactly, um the kind of cornerback that the
Steelers have not been able to draft because you're not
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You're never that high. I mean, that's where you get.
You gotta get guys like Joe Hayden in the top
ten of the first round because if you don't, if
you don't, somebody else will. Um. And so you know,
all of the criticism them that's directed at Kevin Colbert
and the Steelers for you know, they're bad record of
drafting corner as well. If you're picking them third round,
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in fifth round, you're you're picking through the you know,
it's like one of the office holiday party. Um, and
you're you're you're fishing around in the crumbs in the
cookie tan. I mean, everybody ate all the good cookies,
those peanut butter ones with the hershey kiss in the middle,
and you know the pizels if you know you have
a little Italian maybe who happens to be, you know,
(08:28):
on the payroll. You know, the good ones are the
the they're called different things by different people. My grandmother
called them snowballs, the ones with the white powder sugars. Well, right,
because I was just gonna say, my wife calls them
something else because she only wishes she was Italian instead
of actually being Italian, which is a you know, it's
(08:48):
it's like the reservation in the Seinfeld show. Um. You know,
she she knows how to act Italian, but she isn't
actually an Italian. That's and that's the most important, portant,
most important part of it. Okay, So back to the
statement I agree with you as well, um, and the
two points I'll make quick. The first one is that
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on Splain's tax, you could actually take your time. We
could do this as long as we want. Well, I mean,
I know you have lots of lots of things to do.
I mean, your fans are out there, they're starting to
gather outside right now. Um. Two plays after Splain's tackle,
Derrick Henry punched it into the Anaza. So I mean,
and really, the significant thing I think about the Robert
(09:29):
Splain tackle was it announced his presence as a legitimate
NFL inside linebacker with authority, with authority. Yes, what are
you doing, nuke trying to announce my presence with authority?
You're trying to what, um a little bit, but but
but that's a baseball movie. Not a Christmas movie, I know,
but a baseball movie, which strike too, um, And to
(09:54):
express your distain for basement guys on a roll. Hey,
when you're right where you're well dressed, you're well a ddressed.
When you're right, you're right. You know, I wish I
could have gotten a little picture you here, but I
and I only wear it when we're in the same room.
And you notice how I arranged the seating so because
the arrow is pointing, you know, to my left, and
you're sitting there, arrows not pointing up. However, it's just
(10:16):
right and kind of sideways. Um. I think that's a
metaphor for something. And the and the Hayden Hayden tackle,
as you mentioned, Um, you know, did a lot more
significant things. And if and if the Steelers do end
up um squeezing into the playoffs, I think we'll be
able to point to that play as one of the
(10:37):
significant ones down the stretch that helped them do just that.
Even if they don't, I hope it's remembered, you know.
It's it's hard to have one without the other. I mean,
would we remember the Immaculate Extension if it didn't win
the division right there and eliminate the Raves? But boy,
what just what I mean? Bob, You and not both
go back to the eighties on this stuff, and there
(10:59):
are still times when I just wow, did I just
see what I saw? It? It's so entertaining. It really
that's why you like football, right, it comes one play
make it or don't win or lose. Great. Great, there's
there's been a couple of those this year. Hardball at
the end of the game. Um, I'm with him, by
(11:22):
the way, what he's doing, I've seen his secondary, Well
it ain't working. But they almost beat the Packers with
that secondary. So you know this whole Aaron Rodgers, they
call almost winning losing. Okay, statement number three. A loss
on Sunday to the Chiefs doesn't hurt the Steelers playoff
(11:43):
chances as much as as a postponement of that game would.
And by postponement in that game, you mean they played eventually,
just postponement. I didn't say cancelation, Okay. I just want
to make sure everybody listening is on the same page
because I don't want to give them too much credit,
that's for sure, because their their judgment is garbage anyway,
(12:05):
since I'm gonna disagree, it sounds to me, I don't
want to put words in your mouth like there are
words on your shirt. It sounds to me like it's
a foregone conclusion they're gonna lose the Chiefs games. You
just want to get it over with and not mess
up the routine. The rest of the way for the
really important division games. To quote a famous ex Steelers coach,
(12:27):
that's an accurate statement. Okay, I only think they have
about a chance to lose this Chief's game. I could
dut duck maybe possibly perhaps, so I'm not gonna concede
the loss. So no, I think the LASS will be
more damaging. Okay, Well, um, I I I don't if
if the Steelers beat the two a f C North
(12:49):
teams remaining on their schedule with the tie that they
have which keeps them out a lot of tiebreaker situations. Um,
you know, I think it's a better thing for them
when it all all the dust settles on January. What
is that nine, eight, ninth, Okay, when the regular season
(13:10):
is over. Um. But because it's not that they need
to beat the two division teams for tiebreakers, they need
to beat the two division teams to give them losses.
I gotta get to nine wins and and keep them
from getting to tens. Yes, and so beating the Chiefs
but losing to the Ravens, say, are beating the Chiefs
(13:31):
and losing to the Browns. Depending upon what happens, maybe
they get to ten wins if the Steelers don't take
care of their own business with beating those North teams.
So that's why, Um, you know, I don't think you know,
you very eloquently um posed the scenario where you know,
(13:54):
the Steelers could win this in a shootout. Um, but yeah,
about fifteen percent chance that happening, right, Well, you know,
and I think that's pretty optimistic. It might be optimistic
because the only time the Steelers have only scored thirty
or more points in a game one time this year,
and that wasn't that wasn't that loss to the Chargers. No,
(14:15):
I just don't you think that. You know, all year
has gotten in its own way. Absolutely again, I know
what's up with the line and everything, but there's still
more there that the other day was. But I mean,
as great as that Hayden play was, I was watching
that offense continue to get set up on a plus
side of the fifty and then go three it out
and kick a field goal, and just my palms were up, like,
(14:36):
what is going on out there? Yeah? Well like that
Vince Lombardi NFL film clip grab grab, grab, grab grab,
What the hell is going on out there? Nobody's tackling.
I'll do better than that, I'm with you, but to me,
four teen games in thirteen fourteen games in um, you
are what you are? Uh, And I just don't see. Um.
(15:00):
You know, we're talking about the line a lot, and
that deserves conversation, but um, you know the play selection
is any of this gonna change? Uh? And here's another thing.
That another reason why I'm kind of conceding the game
against the Chiefs. They really can't go no huddle from
(15:21):
the beginning because you take that line into that stadium
and expect them know what's going on. You're gonna be
taking your Hall of Fame quarterback out feet first maybe
and then everything's down the dumper. But really the other reason,
I think they have a modicum, you know, a perceptible chance.
It's a small, low percentage, but Kansas City, I think
(15:45):
the ratio and the Chargers game was forty seven passes
and twenty runs and a couple three of the runs
were Mahomes scrambling charges. At the thirty one rated run
defense number thirty one, they can't stop the run either, Chiefs.
The Chiefs are not gonna come out and run the
ball down the Steelers throats because they don't do that.
Because Andy Rea refuses, so back to his days with
(16:06):
the Eagles. So it's actually a good matchup in that record, right, No,
I'm half kidding, like Kansas City's not gonna come out
with an extra line and a fullback and just pound
the ball and and win the game twenty four to
three and control it all day because it's not who
the Chiefs are and it's not what they do. Right,
He's not gonna turn Patrick Homes into a mailman. So
(16:28):
I mean, I get that. It's you know, pretty dangerous
the other way too, but at least you're bringing t. J.
Watt into the equation. You're bringing tip picks into the
equation to make all kinds of stuff that the Steelers
are actually okay, you know, like, yeah, this is they
would rather you do that. So yeah, go ahead, my
Home's throat. You're playing right into their hands until you're
(16:51):
throwing into tyreek Kill's hands and then he's gone. He's
I think he's more dangerous. Um that they're both pretty nage. Yeah, Hey,
I like Chuck the Mill always used to say, how
would you rather die and a fire or suffocated? Just
while we're on the subject to Hill it occurs, it
has occurred to me. He's not just a fast he
(17:13):
can catch a fast ball. He has good yeah, you
know he's and you know how the Steelers throw a
flank or screen and you throw it sideways and everybody
stands around and you might fall forward for three This
guy catches it, tucks it and goes right. If you're
not right on top of that, that could be a
big play for them. Oh, there's there are There are
a lot of things that could be a big play
(17:33):
for them. And I'm here, I'm here to tell you
this too. Um. You know, I looked up some of
the Chiefs recent games. Thirteen nothing, ten nothing, twenty eight nothing.
If they can do that too, they can. And if
it gets to that a couple of scores fourteen nothing early,
I think that percentage goes up from eight five to
maybe or higher yeah or higher. Yeah, I got it.
(17:56):
Just got a match from I hope you get the
ball left. So that's gonna do it for this edition
of Agree to disagree, I just want to alert my
partner here my pursuit of um. We start with linguini
and clam sauce on Christmas Eve, and then we go
to the stuff Callamari the shrimp cocktail, some bake whitefish
later and then if there's any room after that, maybe
(18:19):
have some more stuff, Callamari and shrimp cocktail. But it's
not actually seven or you just sort of make an
effort to know. I mean, we used to. My mom
used to try to, you know, get to seven. But
then my dad, the practical human being that he's always been,
just said, why don't we just eat the ones that
we really like? So what you're telling me is like,
(18:39):
like in a lot of things, sometimes it's really hard
to get seven. Right, we kick and Christmas eve don
we kick a red zone field. All right, talk to
you all next week.
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