December 29, 2021 • 19 mins
Mike Prisuta and Bob Labriola are back with another edition of Agree 2 Disagree. The two discuss statements made regarding the Steelers and their upcoming opponent the Cleveland Browns.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Agreed to Disagree with Mikes and bob Lebriola.
Welcome to the final one edition of Agree to Disagree,
the show with the motto I'm right, he's um. Last
week said you were wrong. So I don't even know
why we're still well, but that last week is last week.
(00:22):
We've moved on. Now we're as Belichick, let's say we're on,
We're onto the Browns. You got any resolutions while we're
I was just gonna ask you that because I know
that there's no one who smashes resolutions as quickly and
as easily and with total impunity as you. So what
do you got that? That used to be the case.
(00:44):
And uh, I would say probably about five years ago,
I resolved to stop trying to make resolutions because it's pointless. Yeah,
because you know, to kind of take off on the
Seinfeld line, if you don't make the resolution, you can't
break the resolution. There you go. So it's and I'm
actually keeping one by resolving not to do it. So
(01:05):
I got a little surfing turf thing going here, you
know what I'm saying. So you know, it used to
be this time of the year for people not up
on the movie Midnight Run. That was a reference to
the turf thing. Google it, kids. It's pretty funny movie. Well,
one of the greatest movies ever. I got two words
for you, and I can't say two of them. On
the rage shot the bleep seriously, one of the Nero's
(01:31):
greatest uh under the radar rolls ever Jack Walsh and
if you want to talk about, you know, complimentary football
that Charles Growden pairing was genius. And then and then
the total total unsung member of that cast Dennis Joe Palantonio. No,
(01:53):
Dennis Farina. Oh, Dennis Farina, I see I he sung
to me. But the guy that's trying to get Nio
to bring yeah, thrown in on time. I think it's
pali Antonio, right, But you know I believe the other
the bail bonds thing. Yeah, but Dennis Farina. I mean
(02:15):
I have um on my laptop a bookmark of great
Dennis Farina lines from Midnight Run. God rest is Sould
and is Farina. You could also do that with the
movie Striking Distance. See if you choose I chose, Yeah,
(02:35):
if you chose to do so that that one is
a little bit off my radar. I'm not disparaging it.
But it's not Midnight Run. That to me is um
it should be all right? A law an established protocol
that if you're a Pittsburgher slashing injer you have to
(02:55):
not just watch striking distance, you have to commit it
to memory, right, memorize in the air Christmas. You know,
I actually met that guy at TV top Sizemore and
he didline for me. He came in one time. It
was one of the highlights of my twenty something. In
your career in radio, I could see why. Okay he
(03:17):
got that one. Huh, Okay, how's going You're finishing strong,
Bobby finishing? I can alright. Statement number one, Let Ben
do his thing. Turn the offense over to him right
from the start. Yeah, why not, I'll agree. I mean,
what they've been doing all along hasn't really worked with
any kind of consistency, and I'm not sure at this point.
(03:41):
I can advise them a direction in which I think
they should go, and I'm confident that it would work.
So yeah, try it. Uh, we're all I think under
the assumption that he's got two regular season games left
in his career. If those go well, there may be
an additional game plus should they qualify for the playoffs,
(04:02):
particularly for this one coming up Labs for a home
game against the Browns. See if you can tap into
the intangible right, see if see if he's feeling it,
See if it's flowing. Uh, see if the crowd's going
nuts when they're gonna introduce the offense right, because it
really I couldn't imagine a scenery in which they don't.
They introduced the defense last week, and I kind of
(04:22):
bothered me because I wanted to see Ben come out
twice to two more times. But hey, maybe I still will.
But yeah, I'm not sure they have an offensive identity.
I'm not sure there is a way to attack this
Brown's defense, which is very good. And hey, Ben finding
something in the moment sounds like as good a plan
as any to me. Okay, I agree with you and
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the statement. And you know, one of the things that
I heard fairly often about why you know, um, turning
the offense over to Ben was a bad idea or
wouldn't necessarily work. Maybe it's a better way to phrase
it is that all you would want to do is
throw the ball and so and maybe that would have
been true earlier this year. Maybe it would have been
(05:06):
true right up to this week. But I do believe
as you said that, Um, I think that Ben is
looking at this game, you know, the only rational and
professional way, which is that it maybe or likely could
be his final appearance at hines Field, and so, knowing
the kind of competitor he is, there is nothing more
(05:28):
important to him than winning. And I think that so
that he will want to win this game more than
he would want to either you know, throw the ball
or show what he could do as a passer, or
you know, any of those somewhat personal things that often
have a tendency to get in the way of of
doing the best thing for the team and trying to
(05:50):
win the game. So yeah, I'm right there with you.
I think sticking it to Cleveland one last time it's
got way up there on the list right not only
with him, not only with him. Okay, statement number two,
Winning the game is job one, but controlling Miles Garrett
is job one. A Uh interesting observation. Uh, I'll just
(06:13):
rewind a little bit and say, Myles Garrett might have
a factor in our last conversation as well. You know,
maybe he wants to throw it fifty five times, but
might not be a good idea. But that said, I
am going to disagree with the statement controlling Nick Chubb
is job one. Uh you know, I mean one. It No,
(06:34):
it's it's one, because if you don't control Nick Chubb,
you're not going to win the game. I've seen too
many people just run the ball down the Steelers throats
the second half of this season. Uh it's it's flabbergasting,
it's frustrating. Uh it is. It's not a recipe for
success as we have seen. I think, you know, particularly
(06:54):
with Baker Mayfield coming off a four interception game against
Green Bay, I do what needs to be done to
stop Nick Chubb and then take my chances with the
rest of it. I know they did a pretty good
job against Chubb and Cleveland the first time in Cleveland,
but it feels like a couple of seasons ago, it
doesn't it, Bobby, Yes, Uh is the way these games
(07:15):
have played out of late. I mean, the last thing
in the world I want to see on Monday night
is Cleveland possessing the ball for forty minutes and just
handing it off, handing it off, handing it off and
getting four or five, six, seven at a crack, if
not more, I gotta stop the running game that's Nick Chubb.
That nothing else matters. Um, Okay, I'm gonna disagree with
(07:38):
you and agree with the statement. I think we're looking
at this, you know a little bit differently, um because
offense defense looking at the statement a little bit differently
because I believe you are correct when you say you
got to stop Nick Chubb to win the game, which
is job one. But and I am totally on board
(08:00):
where you play this game to win. This is not
the start of the next preseason. This is you know,
you don't you don't see what they can do, you
know any of that garbage. Um, play this game your
best players that you think even the best chance to win,
and you play them until the scoreboard clock is at
all zeros. Um. But I also do not want just
(08:22):
as much as I do not want the Browns to
win this game, I do not want Myles Garrett to
take Ben out either. And I know that there is
nothing that this guy would like more than to end
Roethlisberger's final home game or what could end up being
Ben Roethlisberger's final home game early by knocking him out
with a sack. And so that's what you know. And
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we know what Myles Garrett is capable of. I mean,
he is not above ripping off a quarterback's helmet and
using it as a weapon. So yes, it is. So
you know, if I'm uh, if I had any authority
and the offense is dealers offensive lineman would listen to me,
I would tell them, I don't care what you have
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to do, tackle him, trip him. I don't care if
you get a flag every other play. Keep this guy
off number seven. That is what I want to see
because it's a little of your thought process. Also that
it might be a bit of a horse race between
Myles Garrett and t J Lot for defensive Player of
(09:26):
the Year. Um, that that's I think a side benefit.
But to me, uh, it is way you know, Ben Roethlisberger,
whatever fans might think of how he has performed in
his eighteenth season, his thirty ninth year on this earth,
that's beside the point to me, Um, this guy has
(09:47):
been responsible for two of those six Lombardi Trophies and
he deserves to go out Um like the battler, the
competitor he has always been, And so I don't want
this guy to have the satisfaction. You know, put all
the Halloween decorations up in your yard. You want Miles
(10:09):
do what you know, all that stuff where the shirt. Um,
make the statements to the media, you're gonna you know,
take him out all that stuff. That's fine, but it's
not happening on my watch. That would be my attitude.
And again, um, I I if somebody has to tackle
him from behind and that penalty takes off a touchdown,
(10:30):
I don't care. I mean, I care, but um, what
I'm saying is I don't. I don't want this guy
to get his way because it truly it is. To me,
it is an absolute no brainer that that's what he's
gonna be trying to do. Now, I'm not saying he's
gonna be dirty. I'm not saying he's not. But I'm
not saying he's gonna be dirty. Yeah, you wouldn't. You
(10:52):
wouldn't want to say he's not, because again it's on
tape that he's exactly I mean National TV. Um, we've
seen what he is willing to do. And so that's
why I'm saying I don't want this guy to get
what he wants. More than anything else, I believe in
the world in this season. Still wrong but interesting. Alright,
(11:15):
statement number getting better being wrong. I'm intrigued by that
statement number three. Let's see what it looks like with J. C.
Hassenauer at center down the stretch again? Why not? And uh,
you know, a couple of things lead me to this, uh,
Kendrick Green. Let let me preface my comments about Kendrick
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Green by saying, this is the guy that I actually
had them mocked to take in the third round. I
was very happy when they made that pick because, like
as they did, I thought he was a fit. I
had seen a lot of him playing college. I know
he hadn't played much center, but I had seen him
play a lot in college. They obviously studying them more
than I did, But I liked the pick. Then I'm
(12:00):
not convinced Kendrick Green is not going to be their
center long term, Bob. But I also uh acknowledging at
this point that he is a rookie and it is
a new position for him. And a couple of things
that happened recently. We got a chance to talk to
Kendrick Green last week before the Chiefs game, and he
mentioned how many snaps he had played. He he wondered
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aloud how many snaps he had played, and he said
he and Dan Moore had had that conversation recently. Something
somebody asked him about the rookie wall or so. I
forget what the exact question was, but he kind of
like sighed and yeah, you know, I played a lot
of ball this year. I was just talking to Dan.
A lot of snaps. Gotta keep battling. And then that
complete whiff on what became the Roethlisberger fumble in Kansas City. Uh,
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not that, you know, he's the only offensive lineman it's
had to play like that, not that uh you know,
I'm trying to single him out or anything, but that
was that was below the line stuff. And it has
been a long year for him. And now he's got
a calf injury that he's dealing with a little bit,
uh according to Mike tom and that's what knocked him
out of the Chiefs game. Uh. J C. Hassen Hour
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isn't exactly mctanglehoff either, but he's got more experience, he's
more of an established pro. And at this point, what
could it hurt. Maybe you get a spark, maybe you
get uh Kevin Dotson and half an hour back and
you have a little more experience up front, and it's
it's just enough. Uh. That's the stone that I would
turn over because again, it can't get a whole lot
worse upfront, can a coach, No, especially not um at center.
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I'm I mean, and I uh share your belief that, um,
you know, it's not impossible for Kendrick Green to end
up being the Steelers long term starter at center. I
do believe that he deserves an off season um uh
in an NFL uh way training program, strength program whatever
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to try and get stronger. I don't know that he
needs necessarily to be bigger, and obviously he's not gonna
grow any but I meant, you know, way more. Um.
In fact, you know, he could probably benefit from what
I might refer to as the Levy on Bell plan,
where you know, he actually loses weight but becomes um
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better uh fitted physically for the position in the NFL
that he was when he came out of college. Well,
I'm glad you're clarified, because I thought you were gonna
start talking about cutting rap albums and no, no, I
was gonna have to disagree with you yet again. But well,
if there's any freestyle and going on. I would imagine
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that's gonna be you. Um, but I just when when
we're looking at hass an Hour. Uh, And you know
I'm not saying this to you because you've already made
your viewpoint clear on this. I'm not opposed to look
at hass an Hour because Kendrick Green is on fumes.
But what I would hate was that if something would
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happen in those two games where somebody might get the
idea that this guy is the answer at that position.
Because you know, I'm not here to run down J. C.
Hass an Hour. I think that you know, he is
an NFL caliber player, but he is a NFL caliber
backup offensive lineman, good versatile guy, all that kind of stuff. Uh,
(15:19):
he could have a long career, you know, Trey Essex.
I mean, there's a lot of those kinds of guys,
and you need those kinds of guys. But you know,
I don't want him to play two good games. Maybe
the Steelers win them both and let's just you know,
taking this to the extreme, and they get into the
playoffs and he's the starting center in the playoffs, and
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then they straight and then they win the Super Bowl,
and then he's the m v P. Now what are
you doing, smart guy? If he's the Super Bowl m
v P, then he's my starting center next year. Anything
short an anything short of that, Um, I'm looking. I'm
looking at him as I described him. A valuable piece
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of a puzzle, a valuable piece of the depth chart
as depth, but not a starting caliber guy. Yeah, And
just to pile on the point a little bit, you know,
Green said he'd never heard of the rookie wall and
he didn't know what that was. Well, a lot of
other people do, and Mike Tomlin does, and he applied
that to Chase Claypool last year when they kind of
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what's the NBA term, bobby load management, Yeah, load man,
they kind of started cutting the snaps down and trying
to ensure that Chase Claypool would be fresh for the playoffs.
And it's a real thing. He's never done this this
often before, and different people handle it differently. I just think,
you know, I think Kendrick Green needs a chance to exhale,
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maybe watch it from sidelines a little bit. And I'm
not even looking past Cleveland, to be honest with you,
I'll worry not to sound all bella Chickie, and I'll
worry about the I'll worry about the Baltimore game after
the clevelandain because right now they are still alive. And
this seems to be lost on a lot of people.
That Uh, again, my fault because I'm I'm getting this
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vibe from social media. It's a shame on me. But
you know, it's really not all that inconceivable the Chiefs
beat the Bengals and that the Steelers beat the Browns,
and then that the Steelers beat the Ravens and the
Browns beat the Bengals. It's not like you're you're needing
Jacksonville to go on an eight game winning streak to
get in right. It's pretty really, it's pretty real, the
(17:30):
possibility of it. And I still think that the the
biggest uh unknown in that equation is whether the Steelers
can win the last two. So let's if I'm them,
try to win the next one and then worry about
the next one after that, and do whatever you know
to kind of put a bow on this should be
award winning program. Do whatever you have to do or
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whatever you think you have to do to beat the Browns.
And I don't care if it's in character out of
character color and inside in the lines, outside the lines.
I don't care if it's ever been tried before, labs,
it's always the first time, right, Yes, that and then
keep Myles Garrett off number seven. I'm serious to me,
that is that is it's not as important as winning
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the game. But I don't think that you can win
the game if you don't keep Myles Garrett off number seven.
And if I gotta go down and lose to the Browns,
I'm not letting that guy have what I know he
wants more than winning this game. Well, you're doubling back
to that that that is passionate. Yes you are, You
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are indeed finished extroke. I. I completely appreciate where you're
coming from on that. I'm kind of that way with
watching people run the ball in defense. If you gotta
put nine guys up there and cover Donovan People's Jones
and Jarvis Landry one on one all night, do it.
I am tired of seeing um a hundred fifty two
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hundred yards rushing against the defense, because that's just that,
that's it's a pensive to everything I hold near and
dear about the game of football. You know, you could
call it uh high schoolish, but that would be an
insult to high schools. That would be the central Catholic
right and al equippa, there you go, finish strong baby,
all right, that's gonna do it for This should be
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award uh year end edition of Agreed to Disagree for
Mike pursuita. I'm Bob Labriola. Talk to you next week.
This is Agreed to Disagree with Mikes and bob Lebriola.
Welcome to the final one edition of Agree to Disagree,
the show with the motto I'm right, he's um. Last
week said you were wrong. So I don't even know
why we're still well, but that last week is last week.
(00:22):
We've moved on. Now we're as Belichick, let's say we're on,
We're onto the Browns. You got any resolutions while we're
I was just gonna ask you that because I know
that there's no one who smashes resolutions as quickly and
as easily and with total impunity as you. So what
do you got that? That used to be the case.
(00:44):
And uh, I would say probably about five years ago,
I resolved to stop trying to make resolutions because it's pointless. Yeah,
because you know, to kind of take off on the
Seinfeld line, if you don't make the resolution, you can't
break the resolution. There you go. So it's and I'm
actually keeping one by resolving not to do it. So
(01:05):
I got a little surfing turf thing going here, you
know what I'm saying. So you know, it used to
be this time of the year for people not up
on the movie Midnight Run. That was a reference to
the turf thing. Google it, kids. It's pretty funny movie. Well,
one of the greatest movies ever. I got two words
for you, and I can't say two of them. On
the rage shot the bleep seriously, one of the Nero's
(01:31):
greatest uh under the radar rolls ever Jack Walsh and
if you want to talk about, you know, complimentary football
that Charles Growden pairing was genius. And then and then
the total total unsung member of that cast Dennis Joe Palantonio. No,
(01:53):
Dennis Farina. Oh, Dennis Farina, I see I he sung
to me. But the guy that's trying to get Nio
to bring yeah, thrown in on time. I think it's
pali Antonio, right, But you know I believe the other
the bail bonds thing. Yeah, but Dennis Farina. I mean
(02:15):
I have um on my laptop a bookmark of great
Dennis Farina lines from Midnight Run. God rest is Sould
and is Farina. You could also do that with the
movie Striking Distance. See if you choose I chose, Yeah,
(02:35):
if you chose to do so that that one is
a little bit off my radar. I'm not disparaging it.
But it's not Midnight Run. That to me is um
it should be all right? A law an established protocol
that if you're a Pittsburgher slashing injer you have to
(02:55):
not just watch striking distance, you have to commit it
to memory, right, memorize in the air Christmas. You know,
I actually met that guy at TV top Sizemore and
he didline for me. He came in one time. It
was one of the highlights of my twenty something. In
your career in radio, I could see why. Okay he
(03:17):
got that one. Huh, Okay, how's going You're finishing strong,
Bobby finishing? I can alright. Statement number one, Let Ben
do his thing. Turn the offense over to him right
from the start. Yeah, why not, I'll agree. I mean,
what they've been doing all along hasn't really worked with
any kind of consistency, and I'm not sure at this point.
(03:41):
I can advise them a direction in which I think
they should go, and I'm confident that it would work.
So yeah, try it. Uh, we're all I think under
the assumption that he's got two regular season games left
in his career. If those go well, there may be
an additional game plus should they qualify for the playoffs,
(04:02):
particularly for this one coming up Labs for a home
game against the Browns. See if you can tap into
the intangible right, see if see if he's feeling it,
See if it's flowing. Uh, see if the crowd's going
nuts when they're gonna introduce the offense right, because it
really I couldn't imagine a scenery in which they don't.
They introduced the defense last week, and I kind of
(04:22):
bothered me because I wanted to see Ben come out
twice to two more times. But hey, maybe I still will.
But yeah, I'm not sure they have an offensive identity.
I'm not sure there is a way to attack this
Brown's defense, which is very good. And hey, Ben finding
something in the moment sounds like as good a plan
as any to me. Okay, I agree with you and
(04:43):
the statement. And you know, one of the things that
I heard fairly often about why you know, um, turning
the offense over to Ben was a bad idea or
wouldn't necessarily work. Maybe it's a better way to phrase
it is that all you would want to do is
throw the ball and so and maybe that would have
been true earlier this year. Maybe it would have been
(05:06):
true right up to this week. But I do believe
as you said that, Um, I think that Ben is
looking at this game, you know, the only rational and
professional way, which is that it maybe or likely could
be his final appearance at hines Field, and so, knowing
the kind of competitor he is, there is nothing more
(05:28):
important to him than winning. And I think that so
that he will want to win this game more than
he would want to either you know, throw the ball
or show what he could do as a passer, or
you know, any of those somewhat personal things that often
have a tendency to get in the way of of
doing the best thing for the team and trying to
(05:50):
win the game. So yeah, I'm right there with you.
I think sticking it to Cleveland one last time it's
got way up there on the list right not only
with him, not only with him. Okay, statement number two,
Winning the game is job one, but controlling Miles Garrett
is job one. A Uh interesting observation. Uh, I'll just
(06:13):
rewind a little bit and say, Myles Garrett might have
a factor in our last conversation as well. You know,
maybe he wants to throw it fifty five times, but
might not be a good idea. But that said, I
am going to disagree with the statement controlling Nick Chubb
is job one. Uh you know, I mean one. It No,
(06:34):
it's it's one, because if you don't control Nick Chubb,
you're not going to win the game. I've seen too
many people just run the ball down the Steelers throats
the second half of this season. Uh it's it's flabbergasting,
it's frustrating. Uh it is. It's not a recipe for
success as we have seen. I think, you know, particularly
(06:54):
with Baker Mayfield coming off a four interception game against
Green Bay, I do what needs to be done to
stop Nick Chubb and then take my chances with the
rest of it. I know they did a pretty good
job against Chubb and Cleveland the first time in Cleveland,
but it feels like a couple of seasons ago, it
doesn't it, Bobby, Yes, Uh is the way these games
(07:15):
have played out of late. I mean, the last thing
in the world I want to see on Monday night
is Cleveland possessing the ball for forty minutes and just
handing it off, handing it off, handing it off and
getting four or five, six, seven at a crack, if
not more, I gotta stop the running game that's Nick Chubb.
That nothing else matters. Um, Okay, I'm gonna disagree with
(07:38):
you and agree with the statement. I think we're looking
at this, you know a little bit differently, um because
offense defense looking at the statement a little bit differently
because I believe you are correct when you say you
got to stop Nick Chubb to win the game, which
is job one. But and I am totally on board
(08:00):
where you play this game to win. This is not
the start of the next preseason. This is you know,
you don't you don't see what they can do, you
know any of that garbage. Um, play this game your
best players that you think even the best chance to win,
and you play them until the scoreboard clock is at
all zeros. Um. But I also do not want just
(08:22):
as much as I do not want the Browns to
win this game, I do not want Myles Garrett to
take Ben out either. And I know that there is
nothing that this guy would like more than to end
Roethlisberger's final home game or what could end up being
Ben Roethlisberger's final home game early by knocking him out
with a sack. And so that's what you know. And
(08:43):
we know what Myles Garrett is capable of. I mean,
he is not above ripping off a quarterback's helmet and
using it as a weapon. So yes, it is. So
you know, if I'm uh, if I had any authority
and the offense is dealers offensive lineman would listen to me,
I would tell them, I don't care what you have
(09:05):
to do, tackle him, trip him. I don't care if
you get a flag every other play. Keep this guy
off number seven. That is what I want to see
because it's a little of your thought process. Also that
it might be a bit of a horse race between
Myles Garrett and t J Lot for defensive Player of
(09:26):
the Year. Um, that that's I think a side benefit.
But to me, uh, it is way you know, Ben Roethlisberger,
whatever fans might think of how he has performed in
his eighteenth season, his thirty ninth year on this earth,
that's beside the point to me, Um, this guy has
(09:47):
been responsible for two of those six Lombardi Trophies and
he deserves to go out Um like the battler, the
competitor he has always been, And so I don't want
this guy to have the satisfaction. You know, put all
the Halloween decorations up in your yard. You want Miles
(10:09):
do what you know, all that stuff where the shirt. Um,
make the statements to the media, you're gonna you know,
take him out all that stuff. That's fine, but it's
not happening on my watch. That would be my attitude.
And again, um, I I if somebody has to tackle
him from behind and that penalty takes off a touchdown,
(10:30):
I don't care. I mean, I care, but um, what
I'm saying is I don't. I don't want this guy
to get his way because it truly it is. To me,
it is an absolute no brainer that that's what he's
gonna be trying to do. Now, I'm not saying he's
gonna be dirty. I'm not saying he's not. But I'm
not saying he's gonna be dirty. Yeah, you wouldn't. You
(10:52):
wouldn't want to say he's not, because again it's on
tape that he's exactly I mean National TV. Um, we've
seen what he is willing to do. And so that's
why I'm saying I don't want this guy to get
what he wants. More than anything else, I believe in
the world in this season. Still wrong but interesting. Alright,
(11:15):
statement number getting better being wrong. I'm intrigued by that
statement number three. Let's see what it looks like with J. C.
Hassenauer at center down the stretch again? Why not? And uh,
you know, a couple of things lead me to this, uh,
Kendrick Green. Let let me preface my comments about Kendrick
(11:37):
Green by saying, this is the guy that I actually
had them mocked to take in the third round. I
was very happy when they made that pick because, like
as they did, I thought he was a fit. I
had seen a lot of him playing college. I know
he hadn't played much center, but I had seen him
play a lot in college. They obviously studying them more
than I did, But I liked the pick. Then I'm
(12:00):
not convinced Kendrick Green is not going to be their
center long term, Bob. But I also uh acknowledging at
this point that he is a rookie and it is
a new position for him. And a couple of things
that happened recently. We got a chance to talk to
Kendrick Green last week before the Chiefs game, and he
mentioned how many snaps he had played. He he wondered
(12:22):
aloud how many snaps he had played, and he said
he and Dan Moore had had that conversation recently. Something
somebody asked him about the rookie wall or so. I
forget what the exact question was, but he kind of
like sighed and yeah, you know, I played a lot
of ball this year. I was just talking to Dan.
A lot of snaps. Gotta keep battling. And then that
complete whiff on what became the Roethlisberger fumble in Kansas City. Uh,
(12:45):
not that, you know, he's the only offensive lineman it's
had to play like that, not that uh you know,
I'm trying to single him out or anything, but that
was that was below the line stuff. And it has
been a long year for him. And now he's got
a calf injury that he's dealing with a little bit,
uh according to Mike tom and that's what knocked him
out of the Chiefs game. Uh. J C. Hassen Hour
(13:05):
isn't exactly mctanglehoff either, but he's got more experience, he's
more of an established pro. And at this point, what
could it hurt. Maybe you get a spark, maybe you
get uh Kevin Dotson and half an hour back and
you have a little more experience up front, and it's
it's just enough. Uh. That's the stone that I would
turn over because again, it can't get a whole lot
worse upfront, can a coach, No, especially not um at center.
(13:29):
I'm I mean, and I uh share your belief that, um,
you know, it's not impossible for Kendrick Green to end
up being the Steelers long term starter at center. I
do believe that he deserves an off season um uh
in an NFL uh way training program, strength program whatever
(13:51):
to try and get stronger. I don't know that he
needs necessarily to be bigger, and obviously he's not gonna
grow any but I meant, you know, way more. Um.
In fact, you know, he could probably benefit from what
I might refer to as the Levy on Bell plan,
where you know, he actually loses weight but becomes um
(14:12):
better uh fitted physically for the position in the NFL
that he was when he came out of college. Well,
I'm glad you're clarified, because I thought you were gonna
start talking about cutting rap albums and no, no, I
was gonna have to disagree with you yet again. But well,
if there's any freestyle and going on. I would imagine
(14:34):
that's gonna be you. Um, but I just when when
we're looking at hass an Hour. Uh, And you know
I'm not saying this to you because you've already made
your viewpoint clear on this. I'm not opposed to look
at hass an Hour because Kendrick Green is on fumes.
But what I would hate was that if something would
(14:57):
happen in those two games where somebody might get the
idea that this guy is the answer at that position.
Because you know, I'm not here to run down J. C.
Hass an Hour. I think that you know, he is
an NFL caliber player, but he is a NFL caliber
backup offensive lineman, good versatile guy, all that kind of stuff. Uh,
(15:19):
he could have a long career, you know, Trey Essex.
I mean, there's a lot of those kinds of guys,
and you need those kinds of guys. But you know,
I don't want him to play two good games. Maybe
the Steelers win them both and let's just you know,
taking this to the extreme, and they get into the
playoffs and he's the starting center in the playoffs, and
(15:42):
then they straight and then they win the Super Bowl,
and then he's the m v P. Now what are
you doing, smart guy? If he's the Super Bowl m
v P, then he's my starting center next year. Anything
short an anything short of that, Um, I'm looking. I'm
looking at him as I described him. A valuable piece
(16:04):
of a puzzle, a valuable piece of the depth chart
as depth, but not a starting caliber guy. Yeah, And
just to pile on the point a little bit, you know,
Green said he'd never heard of the rookie wall and
he didn't know what that was. Well, a lot of
other people do, and Mike Tomlin does, and he applied
that to Chase Claypool last year when they kind of
(16:26):
what's the NBA term, bobby load management, Yeah, load man,
they kind of started cutting the snaps down and trying
to ensure that Chase Claypool would be fresh for the playoffs.
And it's a real thing. He's never done this this
often before, and different people handle it differently. I just think,
you know, I think Kendrick Green needs a chance to exhale,
(16:46):
maybe watch it from sidelines a little bit. And I'm
not even looking past Cleveland, to be honest with you,
I'll worry not to sound all bella Chickie, and I'll
worry about the I'll worry about the Baltimore game after
the clevelandain because right now they are still alive. And
this seems to be lost on a lot of people.
That Uh, again, my fault because I'm I'm getting this
(17:07):
vibe from social media. It's a shame on me. But
you know, it's really not all that inconceivable the Chiefs
beat the Bengals and that the Steelers beat the Browns,
and then that the Steelers beat the Ravens and the
Browns beat the Bengals. It's not like you're you're needing
Jacksonville to go on an eight game winning streak to
get in right. It's pretty really, it's pretty real, the
(17:30):
possibility of it. And I still think that the the
biggest uh unknown in that equation is whether the Steelers
can win the last two. So let's if I'm them,
try to win the next one and then worry about
the next one after that, and do whatever you know
to kind of put a bow on this should be
award winning program. Do whatever you have to do or
(17:51):
whatever you think you have to do to beat the Browns.
And I don't care if it's in character out of
character color and inside in the lines, outside the lines.
I don't care if it's ever been tried before, labs,
it's always the first time, right, Yes, that and then
keep Myles Garrett off number seven. I'm serious to me,
that is that is it's not as important as winning
(18:12):
the game. But I don't think that you can win
the game if you don't keep Myles Garrett off number seven.
And if I gotta go down and lose to the Browns,
I'm not letting that guy have what I know he
wants more than winning this game. Well, you're doubling back
to that that that is passionate. Yes you are, You
(18:34):
are indeed finished extroke. I. I completely appreciate where you're
coming from on that. I'm kind of that way with
watching people run the ball in defense. If you gotta
put nine guys up there and cover Donovan People's Jones
and Jarvis Landry one on one all night, do it.
I am tired of seeing um a hundred fifty two
(18:54):
hundred yards rushing against the defense, because that's just that,
that's it's a pensive to everything I hold near and
dear about the game of football. You know, you could
call it uh high schoolish, but that would be an
insult to high schools. That would be the central Catholic
right and al equippa, there you go, finish strong baby,
all right, that's gonna do it for This should be
(19:16):
award uh year end edition of Agreed to Disagree for
Mike pursuita. I'm Bob Labriola. Talk to you next week.
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