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October 11, 2022 18 mins
Mike Prisuta and Bob Labriola discuss several Steelers topics on the show with the motto, I’m Right, He's Wrong!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Agreed to Disagree with Mike President and Bob Labriola.
Welcome to another edition of Agreed to Disagree, the podcast,
the soon to be award winning show with the motto
I'm right, he's wrong. So the Kenny Picket has begun,
and what also is just beginning is him learning what
it takes to be a successful quarterback in the NFL

(00:23):
and also what life is like for an NFL quarterback
and pick It got a little taste of that in
Buffalo and his first NFL start in terms of what
life is like for an NFL quarterback, when referee John
Hussey kept the yellow hanky in his pocket despite the
Bills taking a couple of cheap shots, the first on
a hit after Picket had gone into a feat first slide,

(00:45):
and then another shortly after that when a defender win
It went at his knee when he was trying to
throw a pass. I know Kenny is a regular listener
to this podcast because you know who isn't. And even
though there are different rules for protecting a quarterback when
he's in the bucket versus when he's out of the pocket,
here's rule number one. And those things happened to Josh

(01:06):
Allen when he was doing the exact same things, flags
would have flown like it was the fourth of July.
Oh and Kenny, if you want to see officials bend
over backward to protect a guy who does your job,
just wait until Sunday at Acquashire Stadium when Tampa Bay's
in town. Because if you don't happen to know who
their starting quarterback is, it is indeed Tom Brady, who

(01:29):
I believe. Once you're a roughing a passer penalty on
a defensive player who had the audacity to breathe on
him without using listerine before taking the field. Okay, now
that we've explained the inconsistency with NFL officiating, as well
as who's right and who's wrong, let's move on to
this week's pressing issues. Statement number one, Let's stick with

(01:52):
the Kenny Picket narrative. The Steelers got three points and
went over four in the red zone, and Kenny Pickett's
still distinguished himself health in career start number one. I
agree with labs and uh I agree. Trying to emphasize
that I am not a Kenny Pickett apologist, I'm not
a Kenny Pickett fan, per se. I didn't think he

(02:14):
should have been the starting quarterback at the beginning of
the season, But everything I have seen as he has
moved his way up the depth chart, uh, and everything
I've heard from him has really blown me away. I
think this guy is presenting a picture that I have rarely,
if ever seen from a rookie, particularly a rookie quarterback.

(02:34):
And uh, when when we say distinguished himself, I'm not
even talking about statistics. I know the Steelers put some
notes out about what Pickett did passing yards in the
second half relative to other rookie quarterbacks in franchise history
making their first career start, his completions and totally yards
uh compared to other rookie quarterbacks around the leg in

(02:59):
their first NFL start since the a f L NFL merger.
I'm just talking about the way he played the game,
about the way he attacked the position. And then he
wont another press conference afterward, labs, and I know you
gotta win the game, not the press conference. But when
he talks about, hey, I might be a rookie, but
I'm the quarterback and there are inherent leadership responsibilities attached

(03:21):
to that. And here's how I'm gonna do it. I
just full speed ahead. To me, he's certainly got to
play better. Uh, but there's no reason to believe he won't.
And labs here's how into Kenny Pickett I am in
terms of what I've seen from his performance. I talked
last week with tight end Zach Gentry, who you might
uh realize is a Michigan man, and Gentry said, and

(03:47):
I quote, there's no reason to believe he won't be special.
And I fully endorsed the opinion of Michigan man Zack
Gentry as it relates to Kenny Pickett. Even it was
kind of a double negative thing. But let's not get
into that. That's a strong statement right there. And I'm
not then you endorsing the Michigan man. That to me

(04:08):
is the strongest part of that statement. I'm going to
agree with you and with the statement as well as
a lot of the things, you know, the points that
you made. Um, let me say this, and you know,
winning is the most important thing. Uh. And the Steelers
with Kenny pick Up, we're not good enough to win
in his first NFL start, But I definitely think um,

(04:31):
he showed enough things that justified the fact that he
was drafted in the first round. Uh, and you know,
thrown into the mix as a replacement for Ben Roethlisberger.
And I also think he certainly justified the decision to
bench Mitch Robinsky and make him the starter. You know,
we can argue about what it should have happened or

(04:51):
didn't happen, or any of that stuff, but when it
did happen, I think it was it was the right
move to make. Um. I agree with you. You know,
we've talked about this during when Ben Roethlisberger was the quarterback,
and I would always make the case that there's difference.
There's a difference between playing quarterback and being the quarterback.

(05:13):
And I'm not ready to put Picket in that in
that area yet. I mean that that's that's that would
be just ridiculous, But I would pick it showed last
Sunday in Buffalo. He had poise. Uh. He had nice
handling of the mechanics of the position for the most part.
You know, no slappy delay game penalties that weren't a
bunch of burned time outs. And you and I both remember,

(05:36):
you know, the things that Bubby Brister used to call
fixing to come unglued which was a trademark of the
Joe Walton there. We didn't see any of that pick
it also got the ball to Pickens. He used his mobility,
you know, he didn't He definitely didn't get enough help.
But I saw enough that he would be my starter
for the rest of the season as long as he
stays healthy. Yeah, he he might not be the quarterback yet,

(05:59):
but he understand you have to be right. You know,
you don't just have to have quarterback skills, you have
to be the quarterback. And I think grasping that early
on is he's very advanced, as you know, as a
guy who played sixteen years of college football and entered
the NFL at age thirty seven. Should be statement number two.

(06:21):
As it pertains to the defense, it's time to adopt
the motto of Civil War Admiral David Farragut when he said,
damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead, translating that into football
in other words, blitz as many and as often as
necessary to start getting pressure on the passing. You know
when you're gonna hit me with Civil War references in

(06:41):
general and a little uh Admiral David Farragut in particular,
it's gonna be hard for me to disagree, but I
am going to disagree just from from this context. Lab
and stay with me. It's clear they're not getting enough
pressure with four. But I guess blitzing just on its
own is not going to solve the problem. They have
to actually do it well. And the play I'll bring

(07:05):
up to exemplify the point I'm trying to make. The
yard touchdown past at the start of the game in
Buffalo was a blitz. Now they had both outside wide
receivers doubled, they had make a Fitzpatrick up with the
line of scrimmage. He ran at the laid blitz and
boy if he didn't get in clean he maybe got
breathed on on the way by the left guard on

(07:27):
his way to Josh Allen. I'm not sure if if
Fitzpatrick was a tack late on his charge. I'm not
sure if Levi Wallace should have been playing press coverage
on the right side, which would have prevented Gabe Davis
from getting as clean a release as he got. But
it looked like it was drawn up very well. It
looked like it was executed pretty well, but just not

(07:50):
quite good enough. And you know what do they call
almost winning losing. Uh, that was a big play that
you know, everything's got to go right when you blitz.
And I agree, they can't just allow themselves to be
picked apart the way they were or have been since t. J.
Watt went out of the lineup. But I'm I'm not
sure that you just hit the blitz button and that's

(08:12):
the answer. So I'll disagree. Okay, Well, I'm gonna disagree
with you and agree with a statement because you know,
the bottom line from me is rushing with four isn't working.
It's just not it's not working against Jacoby Brissette and
Zack Wilson, you know, those kind of quarterbacks. It was
a disaster on Sunday against Josh Allen. I mean, imagine,

(08:35):
given the guy who's gonna be in there on Sunday
time to survey the field and pick out a receiver.
I mean, I I don't I don't even want to
consider that. So, um, you know they never got him
with the blitz either, have they. Well, but he's they've
never gone after him when he's a hundred and fifteen
years old yet either, So who knows. Um, keep trying.

(08:57):
Eventually you get there, right, Yeah, Uh. You know, and
and I understand that blitzing is gonna put more pressure
on the coverage, but I mean, what's the worst could happen?
Giving up ninety eight yard touchdown pass and the sixty
two yard touchdown pass to the same guy in the
same game. Uh yeah, they have to get better at
doing it. But just because they're not good at it now,

(09:18):
you know, to me, the alternative doesn't work. They've tried
that enough that the alternative doesn't work. They cannot get
pressure with four without t J. Watt and so um
until he comes back, you know. And I don't imagine
him riding in on a white horse on Wednesday to
practice and and you know, running out of the tunnel
on Sunday. Uh, you gotta you gotta start doing some

(09:40):
different things. Uh. I remember Dick Lebo told me one time.
You know that once a quarterbacks, no, not that one,
this was a different one. This was a different leboism.
Once a quarterback starts thinking that a blitz is coming,
you know, he starts worrying that a blitz is coming.
You know, that's when he feels pressure when it's not

(10:01):
necessarily there. And then he starts throwing your the football,
and so you know, maybe a blitz helps the coverage
a little bit into forcing some bad throws, some quick throws,
some throws of the wrong guy. You know, maybe if
you've got to go back a little bit to his
own blitz concept so you don't put um so much
pressure on your secondary to to cover man to man

(10:23):
all over the field. Uh. And you know it doesn't
have to be all the time every snap, but I
mean it can't be trying to rush with four all
the time with every on every snap either, because um,
you know, it's just a slow and certain death. Try
to me, looks to me anyway without pressure on the passer. Yeah,

(10:46):
you're not wrong. I mean it's a complicated issue. It's
funny that I go back to that yard touchdown and
one of the things that they had done in recent
weeks which kind of had me scratch my head a
little bit is even when they would pressure, they would
have the two safeties deep right, And I'm thinking that,
don't you want to get these guys involved and have
them covered the underneath stuff. Well, on that nine, it's

(11:07):
starting ten from the two yard line, and they know
they're gonna blitz. They had both the safeties. In this case,
it was Arthur Mallett and Trey Norwood. They were playing
the sticks lab. You know, they knew they had help
responsibilities outside, but they weren't back out of the play watching.
And what happens when you bring them up The guy
gets behind you and they score yard touchdown. So if

(11:29):
David ferget where're on today, he might say, uh, you know,
sometimes you're damned if you're doing the bocus sings anyway.
Statement number three, I'm not angry James Daniel for popping
damar handling after the cheap shot on Kenny Pickett. I'm
angry that more of his team linemates, teammate linemates weren't

(11:49):
there right along with him. I'll disagree with the latter part,
and let me preface my comments by saying, normally, I'm
not a big fan of vigilante justice. I don't think
players should take that kind of stuff on themselves, particularly
when it draws yellow flags and hurts the ball club.
Daniels explained afterwards that he thought for sure there was

(12:10):
gonna be a penalty on the initial hit on picket,
so the worst thing that he was gonna do was
negate that and he'd still have a first down. Well,
it didn't work out that way, but uh, I still
like what he did because the game was out of hand,
and with Kenny Pickett making his first start, I thought
that set a tone and and showed in a spree,
decor and a camaraderie that they're gonna need to get

(12:32):
themselves out of this one and four malays that they're in.
I don't think the rest of them needed to get involved.
One guy did it. You know, if Kevin Dotson is
running over and he sees Daniels taking care of business, okay,
we got discovered. I think you gotta be very careful
with this kind of stuff. But I was encouraged by

(12:52):
what Daniels did just because of the perspective. I thought,
uh it shined a light on in terms of how
the Steelers feel by can you pickt here as he
gets his career going. Okay, well, I'm gonna disagree with
you again and agree with the statement. And you know,
the statement says they weren't there right along with him.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they're supposed to start a brawl.

(13:14):
But how about backing up your guy on the Bill's sideline?
How about getting over there. And uh, you know, because
we we saw it with the previous group of offensive
lineman and you know Marquise Pouncey, Uh, he was the enforcer.
You know, we saw it a bunch of times when
anybody would mess with Ben, Pouncey was right there and

(13:37):
he would mix it up. And who was also along
there with him all the time? The Castro. Now the
Castro didn't throw any punches necessarily or anything, but he
was there too. And that's what this line I think
needs to develop and needs to start showing, because you know,
while it's developing as a group in terms of its play,

(13:58):
I also think it has to establish itself as a
group that is not going to tolerate any shenanigans with
the quarterback. It's just not I mean, and uh, you
know you talked about vigilanty justice. Here's a little tip. Uh,
don't get Biefully started on that stuff, because in the
eighties vigilanti justice, I mean, and I understand it's not

(14:20):
the eighties anymore. They were coached to do that. You know,
if the rest don't take care of it, you gotta
take care of it. I just I think they got
other issues right now. Get get to the second level
and block a linebacker, and then you can start worrying
about that other stuff. Well again, yes they have to
worry about getting to the second level and blocking a linebacker.

(14:43):
But one of you, when one of your guys uh
is defending the quarterback, you know, get yourself in the
area just to you know, show your face, get on
TV if nothing else, because you know that the whole
thing about getting handled on the lines of scrimmage with
this Steeler's team is real and it's got to end.

(15:05):
It's got to end. And I'm not saying you fight
because or draw penalties or any of that stuff, but
there is a way to establish yourselves as individuals and
as a group that is not going to tolerate extracurriculus.
You're just not gonna do that. You never would have
tolerated extra He ran a tight ship lab a matter

(15:27):
of fact, he ran a bunch of ships and sunk easily.
And you know who he was on the winning side
of that war though, by the way, just so you know, uh,
you know, it's to me, it's a whole lot like
you get a big dog, you know, and you put
him in your yard and the dog barks for a
while and ground at some people, and you know what happens.

(15:50):
People don't come in your yard anymore. Word gets around. Hey,
don't mess with that yard. They got a big, mean
dog in there, and that's what this offensive line can do,
and they need to start doing just to because then
after you get after, you get the reputation. You know,
the dog doesn't have to bite anybody anymore. He could

(16:10):
just sit there, give you that look and you're back away,
because Hey, I'm telling you. When I was a kid,
I knew what yards had the dogs, and when the ball,
when the whiffleball went in those yards, Hey, I went
on to J. C. Penny or no more worse or whatever, No,
bought another one, use your used my allowance, and went

(16:33):
on and bought another whiffle ball, because I wasn't going
in there and trample that lady's flowers with that big
dog in there. Did you ever yell how about them dogs?
Was that just? How about them cowboys? That's what you know.
I never heard about how about them dogs? That's a
Georgia thing, but that they do. How about them dogs? Yeah,

(16:55):
that's big. I remember, got some pretty big dogs this year,
by the way. Yeah. The first time I remember a
lot of the barking and how about them dogs and
stuff was when uh, your Connie um, you know Cohort
Tony Dorset as he was known at the time, carved

(17:16):
up them dogs pretty good in that nineteen seventies seven
Sugar Bowl January one, nineteen seventy seven Sugar Bowl. He
never worried about the size of the dog. No, well,
he was the biggest dog, and I don't know that
a dog could catch him, even though the dog had
has four legs and he only had to. Okay, that's

(17:38):
gonna do it for this edition. Thank god, I've agreed
that disagreed to quote Pinot Cook Let's show with the
motto I'm right, though, I feel pressure next week to
top it that I don't know if I can, Well

(18:00):
don't know if I can. I doubt that you will.
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