October 25, 2022 • 21 mins
Mike Prisuta and Bob Labriola agree or disagree with a few statements regarding the Steelers on the podcast with the motto "I'm right, He's wrong!"
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is agreed to disagree with Mike Presuda and Bob Labriola,
since all of two has been about the quarterbacks, and
since Steelers fans always and forever care about nothing as
much as they care obsess about the quarterbacks, We're going
to dedicate this particular installment to wait for it, the quarterbacks.
(00:22):
Thanks to everyone who found this podcast on purpose and
for those of you joining us accidentally, this is agreed
to disagree the podcast with the motto I'm right. Since
the day Ben Roethlisberger announced his retirement, Hey, who am
I kidding? Since a year before Ben Roethlisberger announced his retirement,
the obsession throughout Steelers Nation has been about the team's
(00:45):
future at the quarterback position. And that's nothing new the
fans obsession. I mean, back in nineteen sixty nine, fans
wanted the team to draft Terry Hanrady instead of Joe Green.
Then in nine they wanted Terry Bradshaw. But once Bradshaw
started throwing interceptions he finished his rookie season with twenty
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four those, by the way, they wanted Bradshaw benched. Then
when Hanratty was worse, they wanted Bradshaw back. Then they
wanted Bradshaw benched. After Bradshaw retired, they loved Cliff Stout
for about fifteen minutes, but then screened for Mark Malone.
A short time in the Malone's career. They started channing
Malone's name at three Rivers Stadium, but not in a
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cheerful way. They loved Bubby Brister because he wasn't Mark Malone,
and then they loved Neil O'Donnell because he wasn't Bubby Brister,
but that love affair with Neil ended in an ugly
way because of Super Bowl thirty. Then they adopted Steven
Still's motto, and I know, Mike you're a big fan
of this. If you can't be with a love you one, honey,
loved the one you're with, and they jumped on the
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slay Slash bandwagon with both feet. Then came the interceptions,
and the fans decided to have a fling with Mike,
tom Zack and then Tommy Maddox, but all they got
for those was feeling cheap and used. Kent Graham wasn't
even attractive at Last Call on a weeknight, and then
the fans allowed themselves to fall in love with Ben Roethlisberger.
That relationship lasted longer than most marriages in this country,
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and it ended amicably this past January. Unlike the nineteen
sixty nine draft, Steelers Nation got its ban in two
and the honeymoon with Kenny Pickett is still ongoing to
this day. Well, for the most part, it is. But
if you check social media after Sunday's lost to the Dolphins,
there seemed to be a few Steelers fans checking around
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for a cutthroat divorce attorney. Okay, now that I've milked
that narrative for every last drop and the horse has
is in fact dead, let's get on with today's program. Statement. Now, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Before we do that, I gott acknowledge a couple of things.
The amount of detail an effort that went into that
deserves to be acknowledged right here. Now, you didn't just
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reference Kent grab as worse than last call, but last
call on a weeknight, right, Let's be specific. There is
no no misinterpreting the context here. And I also think
we need to take a breath to your lab, maybe
even take a knee, and give thanks that the Steelers
actually ended up with Joe Green and Terry hand Ready. Well,
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I mean thank god they did, right, I mean thank
god they ended up with Joe Green. History would have
been Hey hand Ready started a game in nineteen seventy four. Now,
I understand they wanted to see the correlation. No, I don't.
I looked up that start. I think he completed like
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two of fourteen for foreign interceptions or something, Cleveland or something. No,
they beat Cleveland. H J. T. Thomas had more touchdowns
that's that day than Terry hand Ready generated. Yeah, but J. T.
Thomas was a quarterback, by the way, and he didn't
even get it on an interception or a fumble recovery
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of his own. He got it on lateral from Joe Green,
who was tired of running that far with the ball
after he stripped it and recovered it here. Okay, don't
state number I'll try not to statement number one. Terry
Bradshaw was the number one overall pick in nineteen seventy
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and started thirteen games as a rookie, but Chuck Moll
pulled him for performance issues all the way up and
until the first Super Bowl season of nineteen seventy four.
It's okay to occasionally bench the guy drafted to be
the long term starter. I would agree, and I would
for a couple of reasons. Um, you know, Mike Thomas
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made it pretty clear he doesn't want to be blowing
in the wind, and I get that you don't want
every incompletion to be a referendum on whether that guy
who just threw the incompletion should be allowed to throw
the next one. But uh yeah, why not? I mean,
let performance dictate, right. Um, if you're worried about the
eyes confidence, then you probably drafted the wrong guy to
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begin with. I don't think every rookie should be expected
to know it all. That could perhaps be beneficial, not
just to your team if you can catch a little
spark from the backup, but maybe the guy gets a
different perspective, sees the game from a different angle, gets
some different information. I got no problem with. As a
wise man likes to say, letting performance be the guide, Labs,
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I'm agreeing. Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you in the
statement as well. Um, you know, I do believe, you know,
and I said this on the pregame show before the
game against the Dolphins. You know, I do agree. I
do believe that MITx Robiskie's um, his reputation or you
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know what, what the team perceives him to be is
someone who's comfortable, uh in the backup role. And see,
that's a valuable role in the NFL. That's not just
backup quarterback is different than number two anything else on
an NFL roster. You know, it's it's almost a career
of its own, so to speak, and being a good
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one requires a specific skill set um. You know. It's
it's not like being the backup inside linebacker. You know,
you just have to kind of be able to do
what the guy who's starting does. But to be the
backup quarterback that that requires a mindset um, a maturity, professionalism,
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I believe, because the way you have to practice with
prepare yourself without getting a lot of on field reps
in practice, and so I think, uh, you know, Trabski
is pretty good at that. Now, if I were Mike Tomlin,
I would announce maybe that hey, and I'm not and
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I'm talking more like on it during a press conference
or something, I would announce that, Hey, fellas and ladies,
I'm gonna go I'm gonna pull guys who aren't playing
well at every position. And when I do that, that's
not a referendum on the starter as much as it
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is trying to win that game. And so then the
next week, I'm going back to the starter. So um,
write all your stories or do all your commentaries or
you know, tell those slappies who do agree to disagree,
to talk about it all they want. UM, but he
can he pick it as the starter, and so when
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he's healthy, he will start. When he's playing bad, he
may not finish. We're trying to win games. But this
is almost this is almost like topic one A because
I would agree with that as well, although and I
was on record with this last week. I would have
started Robiskie last week just to see if the hot
hand theory would would come into play. But now that
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they went back to pick it for Miami, yeah, it's
it's pick its show. But he's not etched in stone, right,
And I just believe that, you know, to address that, um,
that thought process or opinion or whatever. I believe that
there was a pretty solid belief that you know, going
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back to pick our Trabinsky as a starter brings you
right back to what happened in those first few games.
You know, where he's uh um holding onto the ball
like a newborn baby. You know, I just I think
that I don't I don't believe that Trabinsky would have
immediately become what he needed to be to still have
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the job today. And I don't think that there was
a feeling that, you know, he was a guy who
was going to switch it on and off like that.
So I just think that there are specific roles for them,
and use them in those roles, announce it, and um,
you know, maybe uh win a couple here of the
next couple of three months. Statement number two. If Kenny
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Pickett wants to be the future, he needs to play
better in the present. Agree, going back to his performance
against Tampa Bay before he got concussed, I don't think
he was great in that game. Now, let me uh,
I should have started with this, but let me let
me emphasize right here and now, there's a lot I
like about Kenny Pickett's game. Uh, There's a lot I
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like about Kenny Pickett's intangibles. At no point have I
thought throughout this process that anything is too big for
him or that this can't work the way the Steelers
wanted to. But that doesn't mean it's not gonna be
like a right and Kenny wouldn't go up and down
and we are seeing some downs and you know, relative
to our first point. Uh, he needs to keep it
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above a certain line to keep being run out there.
At least that's the way it would be if I
was the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. And Uh,
some of the things that I'm talking about. Uh, the
second of his two interceptions in Miami was awful. Uh,
not that I would have benched him, you know when
they got the ball back and it was only two
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minutes left, because you just don't do that at that
time of the game. But that's the kind of stuff
that just can't happen. He was in a clean pocket
and he had an open receiver and the ball came
out of his hand wobbling. It took an hour and
a half to get there, and that's why I got
picked off. The other thing I hated about his game
in Miami, Bob, was early on they tried to take
advantage of the one on one matchups they were getting
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outside and in the slot. The first third down was
a deep pass to Deonte Johnson, and he missed that
pretty inaccurately. The second one was the second down, and
uh as uh the great man. Jeane Stratore confirmed this
very day on the DV Morning Show during Zebra Talk.
Miami should have been called for pass interference on that
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play for tripping up Claypool, but was not. Claypool fell
down and the ball got picked off. I think that
scared the Steelers out of rowing UH and trying to
take advantage of those deep sideline shots for a lot
of the rest of the game. And that's something I
just think they can't afford to allow to happen. UH.
Picket talked about being aggressive in the preseason and when
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they see one on ones UH, liking their guys outside
and being willing to throw, being willing, excuse me to
throw those fifty fifty balls. Mr Bisky talked about the
same thing. Too much sideways, too much UH, high completion percentage,
low yardage gained, UH in return stuff going on with
this offense. I don't know if it's being coached that way.
I don't know if that's what the quarterbacks are being
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told to do. But if I'm the quarterback and I'm
out there and I see some of the stuff I
saw from my great seed in Miami in the corner
of the the end zone. Uh, I'm taking more shots
to fourteen. I just then, Uh, what's what is the
worst thing that can happen? You don't score only scored
ten points? Um, yeah, I agree with you in the
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statement as well. I mean, and I'll tell you what.
This is a really kumbaya episode of this because I'm
also going to agree with an NFL official. How about that? Uh?
Oh yeah, I mean and and I have to admit
I agree with him a lot more since he became
a part of the DV morning show than he actually
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that I actually was when he was working the games,
because I just think something happens to those guys brains,
you know, when they put on the shirt and the hat.
But any feel you on that. I agree with him
a lot more now than I used to when a
he was working Big ten basketball games and be I
was drunk. Um okay him in Columbus, Ohio one night
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last I'm not proud of but you know, heat of
the moment, right, He's got a big heart. I'm sure
he forgives you. Give me a break, um, but you know, yeah,
Pickett needs to play better. Um, let me say this.
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Even though the third interception ended the game. I liked that.
I didn't hate it. Let yeah, that's a better way
of putting it. I didn't hate it. And but you
know what he means. He's young still, and so you
know what he needs to relatively okay right again, Uh,
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he's inexperienced still, uh. And what he needs is, you know,
some time in a dark room with uh, you know,
someone who knows a little bit about it, showing him
and explaining to him that you could have run and
gotten out of bonds and then we would have had
another shot at it instead of probably well you know
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again about seconds left in a ten yard line, but
definitely one, at least definitely one. Yeah what you did, Kenny,
you ended the game. But if you do this, we
get at least another shot. And so that's the better
uh percentage thing in this particular moment. I mean, it
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doesn't have to be you know, you want to be
aggressive and go for it and try to make plays,
but it doesn't have to be that on every snap
of the ball and and and figuring out that that
fine line to quote great former coach Um, you know,
it is going to have to be uh, you know,
something that he learns and hopefully, Uh he gets helped
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learning it along the way. Would better in the second
quarter if you're trying to make that play against the
bleeding clock because the gas line there right Like to me,
I get that you're you're taking a shot and there's
some risk, but if it is going to lose the game,
you have to be right, you just do And that's
why I would have run it. But well, I think
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there are different There are different rick the acceptability of risks, um,
you know, varies based on the score, the time of
the game, uh, you know, and and other factors involved.
You know that in the insurance industry they call it
risk management and and you know you kind of have
to um, you know, I don't expect to be walking
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around with a briefcase but uh in a calculator. But
you need to, you know, develop some sort of field
slash understanding, uh for when it's um, you know, do
or die, and when it's live to fight another day,
and that that other day is going to come when
the forty two clock expires in this very game at
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this very venue. Okay, statement number three, run the ball
when opportunity knocks pick it. Can do that and still
throw it a bunch. Yeah, we kind of just let
ourselves right into that, didn't we. This is well done
on our part. Uh Yeah, I'm gounda agreed that that
would have been a good opportunity. But I just think,
you know, he made some great decisions pulling it down
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on third down and moving the chains or or getting
what he could to make it more manageable. I just
think that's an element of today's game, and I thought
that's what they were gonna be getting with trabiscite, and
there was a lot of discussion about that in the
off season. Did you watch any of Justin Fields last night.
He's starting to develop that appreciation of when to run
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and when to throw the line from mart Rooney the
second in the off season. Yeah, I want mobility, but
the guy's also got to be able to read a
defense and complete a pass or you know, words to
that effect. That was his sentiment. I'm all for that,
but the running part of that can't be taken for
granted or forgotten about. Uh. These guys can make plays
with their legs. They're capable physically. Defenses are not usually
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designed to to take that away. And when they are. Oh,
by the way, Picking had run enough in Miami that
they had a spy on him on that fourth down
which preceded his third interception where he made that beautiful
throw to Pat Friarm that was open because they spine picket.
So even when you don't run, if you run, it
helps you that you ran. So run yeah again, run kumbayah.
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I agree with you in the statement of the one
thing that I would add to what you said is that, um,
I don't know if this this happens, you know, conversationally
or actually with physical reps because and I doubt that
it could work that way because you know you're not
going this at the same speed in practice as you
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would in a game. But you know, the one holding
penalty on Dan Moore Jr. I think came about because
you know he had his guy blocked is as long
as Pike it stayed in the pocket, okay, which you
know when you have your guy blocked, you're not assuming
that other offensive linemen or past protectors are not doing that,
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and so you must not in for this team very long.
Dan Moore was in pretty good shape on that play,
you know, as they showed it over and over on
replay and even uh one of the guys I hate
the most. Chris Collinsworth pointed this out. Uh, Dan Moore
only lost control of uh the guy he was his
his assignment. Pick it wasn't yeah right when he quickly
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uh pick it darted uh not just out of the pocket,
but kind of circled back around the left. And that's
when then Ingram reacted to that, and Dan Moore just
grabbed him because you don't notice that the guy tries
to start away. You got he sees his jersey there
and I put that on Pro Football Focus. Is a
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bad play labs. Okay, Well, and then you know, was
that Chris Collinsworth imitation or his kid who has no
justification for having that job except for the fact that
he's Chris Collinsworth kid. Okay, that political statement over, Let's
get back to the topic. Um so yeah, probably what
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has to be developed is a way, you know, for
there to be some kind of uh instinct developed or
sense developed, you know, like receivers. Uh you know, they
call it a scrambled drill. They know what to do. Well,
maybe the offensive line in the past, protectors as a
whole um need to develop with Pickett some sort of
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scrambled drill that where they kind of have a sense
of if he's gonna scramble where he might go, not
that it's that you're locked into that all the time,
because you know, I get it, it's a extemporaneous kind
of thing. But you also want to try to avoid
the kind of damaging penalties that really are only happening
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because well, he ran the wrong way and or he
ran away. I wasn't anticipating and my back is to him,
and it was either that or allowed to get killed.
So I grabbed the guy. You know, it's still it's
still a tenure penalty and unifies that the game on
the play. Yeah, it's an interesting to see if that
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might be worth exploring down there on the South Side. Yeah,
or even or even if it's possible, because you know,
now that I hear myself say it out loud, um,
I kind of doubt that it is. I think it's
only gonna be something that's gonna be borne out of Um.
You know, weeks and weeks of games and playing together
and you know that kind of stuff. You kind of
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developed a sense for it. So Okay, onto Philadelphia and
let's get a cheesecake cheese steak. Excuse me um on Saturday.
You're gonna try that? Huh? Come on, Pats, how long
you know me? Well, the only thing I'm gonna tell
you is World Series game too. Saturday. I'll be going
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to the hockey game and then two pets Steaks King
You think if you think there's gonna be it doesn't matter.
The line can't be long enough. If you're a Steeler
fan listening somewhere in Steeler Nation, you're you're making the
trip to Philly, you go to Pat Steaks ninth and
passi unk. You know where you are because it says
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King of Steaks right on the sign, So it must
be true, right, it's the King of Steaks to w
with to way, Okay, because all right, just making it's
not enough a little Flyer's hockey and then some Pats
be in a real good mood Sunday morning. But you know,
I hear Beano's voice in my background and in the
back of my head. Yes, and the answer to that
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is yes, I have suffered enough. Okay, thanks for finding
us for this edition. I've agree to disagree the podcast
with the motto I'm right, he's wrong. Talk to you soon.
This is agreed to disagree with Mike Presuda and Bob Labriola,
since all of two has been about the quarterbacks, and
since Steelers fans always and forever care about nothing as
much as they care obsess about the quarterbacks, We're going
to dedicate this particular installment to wait for it, the quarterbacks.
(00:22):
Thanks to everyone who found this podcast on purpose and
for those of you joining us accidentally, this is agreed
to disagree the podcast with the motto I'm right. Since
the day Ben Roethlisberger announced his retirement, Hey, who am
I kidding? Since a year before Ben Roethlisberger announced his retirement,
the obsession throughout Steelers Nation has been about the team's
(00:45):
future at the quarterback position. And that's nothing new the
fans obsession. I mean, back in nineteen sixty nine, fans
wanted the team to draft Terry Hanrady instead of Joe Green.
Then in nine they wanted Terry Bradshaw. But once Bradshaw
started throwing interceptions he finished his rookie season with twenty
(01:07):
four those, by the way, they wanted Bradshaw benched. Then
when Hanratty was worse, they wanted Bradshaw back. Then they
wanted Bradshaw benched. After Bradshaw retired, they loved Cliff Stout
for about fifteen minutes, but then screened for Mark Malone.
A short time in the Malone's career. They started channing
Malone's name at three Rivers Stadium, but not in a
(01:27):
cheerful way. They loved Bubby Brister because he wasn't Mark Malone,
and then they loved Neil O'Donnell because he wasn't Bubby Brister,
but that love affair with Neil ended in an ugly
way because of Super Bowl thirty. Then they adopted Steven
Still's motto, and I know, Mike you're a big fan
of this. If you can't be with a love you one, honey,
loved the one you're with, and they jumped on the
(01:49):
slay Slash bandwagon with both feet. Then came the interceptions,
and the fans decided to have a fling with Mike,
tom Zack and then Tommy Maddox, but all they got
for those was feeling cheap and used. Kent Graham wasn't
even attractive at Last Call on a weeknight, and then
the fans allowed themselves to fall in love with Ben Roethlisberger.
That relationship lasted longer than most marriages in this country,
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and it ended amicably this past January. Unlike the nineteen
sixty nine draft, Steelers Nation got its ban in two
and the honeymoon with Kenny Pickett is still ongoing to
this day. Well, for the most part, it is. But
if you check social media after Sunday's lost to the Dolphins,
there seemed to be a few Steelers fans checking around
(02:33):
for a cutthroat divorce attorney. Okay, now that I've milked
that narrative for every last drop and the horse has
is in fact dead, let's get on with today's program. Statement. Now, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Before we do that, I gott acknowledge a couple of things.
The amount of detail an effort that went into that
deserves to be acknowledged right here. Now, you didn't just
(02:56):
reference Kent grab as worse than last call, but last
call on a weeknight, right, Let's be specific. There is
no no misinterpreting the context here. And I also think
we need to take a breath to your lab, maybe
even take a knee, and give thanks that the Steelers
actually ended up with Joe Green and Terry hand Ready. Well,
(03:19):
I mean thank god they did, right, I mean thank
god they ended up with Joe Green. History would have
been Hey hand Ready started a game in nineteen seventy four. Now,
I understand they wanted to see the correlation. No, I don't.
I looked up that start. I think he completed like
(03:39):
two of fourteen for foreign interceptions or something, Cleveland or something. No,
they beat Cleveland. H J. T. Thomas had more touchdowns
that's that day than Terry hand Ready generated. Yeah, but J. T.
Thomas was a quarterback, by the way, and he didn't
even get it on an interception or a fumble recovery
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of his own. He got it on lateral from Joe Green,
who was tired of running that far with the ball
after he stripped it and recovered it here. Okay, don't
state number I'll try not to statement number one. Terry
Bradshaw was the number one overall pick in nineteen seventy
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and started thirteen games as a rookie, but Chuck Moll
pulled him for performance issues all the way up and
until the first Super Bowl season of nineteen seventy four.
It's okay to occasionally bench the guy drafted to be
the long term starter. I would agree, and I would
for a couple of reasons. Um, you know, Mike Thomas
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made it pretty clear he doesn't want to be blowing
in the wind, and I get that you don't want
every incompletion to be a referendum on whether that guy
who just threw the incompletion should be allowed to throw
the next one. But uh yeah, why not? I mean,
let performance dictate, right. Um, if you're worried about the
eyes confidence, then you probably drafted the wrong guy to
(05:03):
begin with. I don't think every rookie should be expected
to know it all. That could perhaps be beneficial, not
just to your team if you can catch a little
spark from the backup, but maybe the guy gets a
different perspective, sees the game from a different angle, gets
some different information. I got no problem with. As a
wise man likes to say, letting performance be the guide, Labs,
(05:25):
I'm agreeing. Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you in the
statement as well. Um, you know, I do believe, you know,
and I said this on the pregame show before the
game against the Dolphins. You know, I do agree. I
do believe that MITx Robiskie's um, his reputation or you
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know what, what the team perceives him to be is
someone who's comfortable, uh in the backup role. And see,
that's a valuable role in the NFL. That's not just
backup quarterback is different than number two anything else on
an NFL roster. You know, it's it's almost a career
of its own, so to speak, and being a good
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one requires a specific skill set um. You know. It's
it's not like being the backup inside linebacker. You know,
you just have to kind of be able to do
what the guy who's starting does. But to be the
backup quarterback that that requires a mindset um, a maturity, professionalism,
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I believe, because the way you have to practice with
prepare yourself without getting a lot of on field reps
in practice, and so I think, uh, you know, Trabski
is pretty good at that. Now, if I were Mike Tomlin,
I would announce maybe that hey, and I'm not and
(06:52):
I'm talking more like on it during a press conference
or something, I would announce that, Hey, fellas and ladies,
I'm gonna go I'm gonna pull guys who aren't playing
well at every position. And when I do that, that's
not a referendum on the starter as much as it
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is trying to win that game. And so then the
next week, I'm going back to the starter. So um,
write all your stories or do all your commentaries or
you know, tell those slappies who do agree to disagree,
to talk about it all they want. UM, but he
can he pick it as the starter, and so when
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he's healthy, he will start. When he's playing bad, he
may not finish. We're trying to win games. But this
is almost this is almost like topic one A because
I would agree with that as well, although and I
was on record with this last week. I would have
started Robiskie last week just to see if the hot
hand theory would would come into play. But now that
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they went back to pick it for Miami, yeah, it's
it's pick its show. But he's not etched in stone, right,
And I just believe that, you know, to address that, um,
that thought process or opinion or whatever. I believe that
there was a pretty solid belief that you know, going
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back to pick our Trabinsky as a starter brings you
right back to what happened in those first few games.
You know, where he's uh um holding onto the ball
like a newborn baby. You know, I just I think
that I don't I don't believe that Trabinsky would have
immediately become what he needed to be to still have
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the job today. And I don't think that there was
a feeling that, you know, he was a guy who
was going to switch it on and off like that.
So I just think that there are specific roles for them,
and use them in those roles, announce it, and um,
you know, maybe uh win a couple here of the
next couple of three months. Statement number two. If Kenny
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Pickett wants to be the future, he needs to play
better in the present. Agree, going back to his performance
against Tampa Bay before he got concussed, I don't think
he was great in that game. Now, let me uh,
I should have started with this, but let me let
me emphasize right here and now, there's a lot I
like about Kenny Pickett's game. Uh, There's a lot I
(09:27):
like about Kenny Pickett's intangibles. At no point have I
thought throughout this process that anything is too big for
him or that this can't work the way the Steelers
wanted to. But that doesn't mean it's not gonna be
like a right and Kenny wouldn't go up and down
and we are seeing some downs and you know, relative
to our first point. Uh, he needs to keep it
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above a certain line to keep being run out there.
At least that's the way it would be if I
was the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. And Uh,
some of the things that I'm talking about. Uh, the
second of his two interceptions in Miami was awful. Uh,
not that I would have benched him, you know when
they got the ball back and it was only two
(10:08):
minutes left, because you just don't do that at that
time of the game. But that's the kind of stuff
that just can't happen. He was in a clean pocket
and he had an open receiver and the ball came
out of his hand wobbling. It took an hour and
a half to get there, and that's why I got
picked off. The other thing I hated about his game
in Miami, Bob, was early on they tried to take
advantage of the one on one matchups they were getting
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outside and in the slot. The first third down was
a deep pass to Deonte Johnson, and he missed that
pretty inaccurately. The second one was the second down, and
uh as uh the great man. Jeane Stratore confirmed this
very day on the DV Morning Show during Zebra Talk.
Miami should have been called for pass interference on that
(10:51):
play for tripping up Claypool, but was not. Claypool fell
down and the ball got picked off. I think that
scared the Steelers out of rowing UH and trying to
take advantage of those deep sideline shots for a lot
of the rest of the game. And that's something I
just think they can't afford to allow to happen. UH.
Picket talked about being aggressive in the preseason and when
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they see one on ones UH, liking their guys outside
and being willing to throw, being willing, excuse me to
throw those fifty fifty balls. Mr Bisky talked about the
same thing. Too much sideways, too much UH, high completion percentage,
low yardage gained, UH in return stuff going on with
this offense. I don't know if it's being coached that way.
I don't know if that's what the quarterbacks are being
(11:34):
told to do. But if I'm the quarterback and I'm
out there and I see some of the stuff I
saw from my great seed in Miami in the corner
of the the end zone. Uh, I'm taking more shots
to fourteen. I just then, Uh, what's what is the
worst thing that can happen? You don't score only scored
ten points? Um, yeah, I agree with you in the
(11:58):
statement as well. I mean, and I'll tell you what.
This is a really kumbaya episode of this because I'm
also going to agree with an NFL official. How about that? Uh?
Oh yeah, I mean and and I have to admit
I agree with him a lot more since he became
a part of the DV morning show than he actually
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that I actually was when he was working the games,
because I just think something happens to those guys brains,
you know, when they put on the shirt and the hat.
But any feel you on that. I agree with him
a lot more now than I used to when a
he was working Big ten basketball games and be I
was drunk. Um okay him in Columbus, Ohio one night
(12:43):
last I'm not proud of but you know, heat of
the moment, right, He's got a big heart. I'm sure
he forgives you. Give me a break, um, but you know, yeah,
Pickett needs to play better. Um, let me say this.
(13:05):
Even though the third interception ended the game. I liked that.
I didn't hate it. Let yeah, that's a better way
of putting it. I didn't hate it. And but you
know what he means. He's young still, and so you
know what he needs to relatively okay right again, Uh,
(13:28):
he's inexperienced still, uh. And what he needs is, you know,
some time in a dark room with uh, you know,
someone who knows a little bit about it, showing him
and explaining to him that you could have run and
gotten out of bonds and then we would have had
another shot at it instead of probably well you know
(13:49):
again about seconds left in a ten yard line, but
definitely one, at least definitely one. Yeah what you did, Kenny,
you ended the game. But if you do this, we
get at least another shot. And so that's the better
uh percentage thing in this particular moment. I mean, it
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doesn't have to be you know, you want to be
aggressive and go for it and try to make plays,
but it doesn't have to be that on every snap
of the ball and and and figuring out that that
fine line to quote great former coach Um, you know,
it is going to have to be uh, you know,
something that he learns and hopefully, Uh he gets helped
(14:32):
learning it along the way. Would better in the second
quarter if you're trying to make that play against the
bleeding clock because the gas line there right Like to me,
I get that you're you're taking a shot and there's
some risk, but if it is going to lose the game,
you have to be right, you just do And that's
why I would have run it. But well, I think
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there are different There are different rick the acceptability of risks, um,
you know, varies based on the score, the time of
the game, uh, you know, and and other factors involved.
You know that in the insurance industry they call it
risk management and and you know you kind of have
to um, you know, I don't expect to be walking
(15:16):
around with a briefcase but uh in a calculator. But
you need to, you know, develop some sort of field
slash understanding, uh for when it's um, you know, do
or die, and when it's live to fight another day,
and that that other day is going to come when
the forty two clock expires in this very game at
(15:39):
this very venue. Okay, statement number three, run the ball
when opportunity knocks pick it. Can do that and still
throw it a bunch. Yeah, we kind of just let
ourselves right into that, didn't we. This is well done
on our part. Uh Yeah, I'm gounda agreed that that
would have been a good opportunity. But I just think,
you know, he made some great decisions pulling it down
(16:00):
on third down and moving the chains or or getting
what he could to make it more manageable. I just
think that's an element of today's game, and I thought
that's what they were gonna be getting with trabiscite, and
there was a lot of discussion about that in the
off season. Did you watch any of Justin Fields last night.
He's starting to develop that appreciation of when to run
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and when to throw the line from mart Rooney the
second in the off season. Yeah, I want mobility, but
the guy's also got to be able to read a
defense and complete a pass or you know, words to
that effect. That was his sentiment. I'm all for that,
but the running part of that can't be taken for
granted or forgotten about. Uh. These guys can make plays
with their legs. They're capable physically. Defenses are not usually
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designed to to take that away. And when they are. Oh,
by the way, Picking had run enough in Miami that
they had a spy on him on that fourth down
which preceded his third interception where he made that beautiful
throw to Pat Friarm that was open because they spine picket.
So even when you don't run, if you run, it
helps you that you ran. So run yeah again, run kumbayah.
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I agree with you in the statement of the one
thing that I would add to what you said is that, um,
I don't know if this this happens, you know, conversationally
or actually with physical reps because and I doubt that
it could work that way because you know you're not
going this at the same speed in practice as you
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would in a game. But you know, the one holding
penalty on Dan Moore Jr. I think came about because
you know he had his guy blocked is as long
as Pike it stayed in the pocket, okay, which you
know when you have your guy blocked, you're not assuming
that other offensive linemen or past protectors are not doing that,
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and so you must not in for this team very long.
Dan Moore was in pretty good shape on that play,
you know, as they showed it over and over on
replay and even uh one of the guys I hate
the most. Chris Collinsworth pointed this out. Uh, Dan Moore
only lost control of uh the guy he was his
his assignment. Pick it wasn't yeah right when he quickly
(18:24):
uh pick it darted uh not just out of the pocket,
but kind of circled back around the left. And that's
when then Ingram reacted to that, and Dan Moore just
grabbed him because you don't notice that the guy tries
to start away. You got he sees his jersey there
and I put that on Pro Football Focus. Is a
(18:44):
bad play labs. Okay, Well, and then you know, was
that Chris Collinsworth imitation or his kid who has no
justification for having that job except for the fact that
he's Chris Collinsworth kid. Okay, that political statement over, Let's
get back to the topic. Um so yeah, probably what
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has to be developed is a way, you know, for
there to be some kind of uh instinct developed or
sense developed, you know, like receivers. Uh you know, they
call it a scrambled drill. They know what to do. Well,
maybe the offensive line in the past, protectors as a
whole um need to develop with Pickett some sort of
(19:28):
scrambled drill that where they kind of have a sense
of if he's gonna scramble where he might go, not
that it's that you're locked into that all the time,
because you know, I get it, it's a extemporaneous kind
of thing. But you also want to try to avoid
the kind of damaging penalties that really are only happening
(19:49):
because well, he ran the wrong way and or he
ran away. I wasn't anticipating and my back is to him,
and it was either that or allowed to get killed.
So I grabbed the guy. You know, it's still it's
still a tenure penalty and unifies that the game on
the play. Yeah, it's an interesting to see if that
(20:10):
might be worth exploring down there on the South Side. Yeah,
or even or even if it's possible, because you know,
now that I hear myself say it out loud, um,
I kind of doubt that it is. I think it's
only gonna be something that's gonna be borne out of Um.
You know, weeks and weeks of games and playing together
and you know that kind of stuff. You kind of
(20:32):
developed a sense for it. So Okay, onto Philadelphia and
let's get a cheesecake cheese steak. Excuse me um on Saturday.
You're gonna try that? Huh? Come on, Pats, how long
you know me? Well, the only thing I'm gonna tell
you is World Series game too. Saturday. I'll be going
(20:57):
to the hockey game and then two pets Steaks King
You think if you think there's gonna be it doesn't matter.
The line can't be long enough. If you're a Steeler
fan listening somewhere in Steeler Nation, you're you're making the
trip to Philly, you go to Pat Steaks ninth and
passi unk. You know where you are because it says
(21:19):
King of Steaks right on the sign, So it must
be true, right, it's the King of Steaks to w
with to way, Okay, because all right, just making it's
not enough a little Flyer's hockey and then some Pats
be in a real good mood Sunday morning. But you know,
I hear Beano's voice in my background and in the
back of my head. Yes, and the answer to that
(21:40):
is yes, I have suffered enough. Okay, thanks for finding
us for this edition. I've agree to disagree the podcast
with the motto I'm right, he's wrong. Talk to you soon.
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