August 20, 2025 • 26 mins
Ever wonder why your brain seems to fight against AI tools even when you know they could help? That resistance isn't stubbornness—it's neuroscience in action.
In this episode of AI Café Conversations, host Sahar, The AI Whisperer, explores the fascinating dynamics between the executive brain and AI, delving into why leaders may struggle to embrace this transformative tool.
As AI integration becomes essential for competitive advantage, understanding the human-centered approach is crucial.
Join us as we uncover neuroscience-backed strategies that help executives overcome tech anxiety and confidently adopt AI.
You'll discover practical AI coaching tools designed especially for busy leaders and learn how to implement human-centered frameworks that enhance your leadership style.
Perfect for executives, HR professionals, and coaches, this episode will guide you on your journey to mastering AI without needing coding expertise. Tune in to transform your approach to leadership and harness the power of AI effectively!
But this isn't just about understanding resistance—it's about transforming it. Discover practical strategies like cognitive containers, reframing competence, staged delegation, and memory partnering that work with your brain's design rather than against it. As my skeptical executive friend realized during our conversation, "Your brain isn't broken for resisting AI. It's actually working perfectly—it's protecting what got you here."
We also celebrate remarkable AI healthcare breakthroughs, including Stanford's brain-computer interface helping paralyzed patients speak through thought alone and scientific discoveries about the DNA switch (HAR123) that makes us uniquely human. These advancements showcase AI's profound potential when we learn to collaborate with it effectively.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to our new
episode in the AI CafeConversations.
I'm Sahar Andrade, your AIWhisperer Conversations.
I'm Sahar Andrade, your AIWhisperer, and today I have
(00:33):
great news that has to do withAI when it concerns healthcare,
and this is something that I'mso looking forward to see the
progress of it, because it'sgoing to help so many people
that I can't even contain howhappy I am.
I'm so happy and I feel sohopeful for the future and for
people that are suffering fromcertain health care challenges.
(00:55):
So let me start by the firstone.
Stanford researchers developeda brain-computer interface where
they have like an AI chip thatthey can implant in the brain of
paralyzed patients that wouldallow them to speak.
(01:15):
To speak paralyzed patients byjust imagining words in their
head.
How great is that?
How many people can?
That will help not only them,but their loved ones, where
they're going to be able toconnect with them through words,
(01:36):
maybe for the first time intheir life.
How great is that?
The interface achieved 74%accuracy, decoding imagined
speech from participants withsevere paralysis.
Isn't that great?
So, for people living withparalysis, this could
(02:00):
potentially be actually abreakthrough to get their voice
back, and I couldn't be happier.
The second thing, that, also onthe level of health care, some
scientists claim to have foundthe DNA switch that make us
(02:25):
human.
I was talking to someone todayabout that and I said, oh, can
you tone it down, can you?
Because I started sayingprimates and human beings and
all that.
So my friend told me, can youtone it down and bring it back
to regular terms?
As you know, my medicalbackground always kicks in.
So DNA is basically that thatthe genes that are in, that are
(02:50):
born with us, you know from, andwe get it through our parents
and into the modern humans thatwe are today.
(03:12):
Okay, there is a name for it,if you want to know it.
It's called har123 and it actslike a volume control for brain
development.
Right, and this actually DNA,or this, this part of of the,
the genetic switch that theyfound, you know it's uh, it's
(03:38):
done during the growth that wego through, and understanding
the difference where we switchto who we are today or the new
modern humans, if you want tocall it can potentially help
researchers develop bettertreatments for conditions like
autism.
(03:58):
Isn't both of these really agreat case for celebration from
AI, from the advancement of AI,and also AI is helping finding
diabetes, when it's going tohelp the human race, how it can
(04:28):
help us for the healthcare.
And don't get me wrong, I am notgoing blindsided into AI.
I'm very aware I just posted ablog on my LinkedIn profile
about what happens when your aiforgets you, and it happened.
I was talking to claude and itwe were deep in conversation
(04:51):
cloud anthropic and I keptpushing and pushing and pushing
because whatever he was sayingdidn't make a lot of sense and
when I pushed he actuallystarted.
I I don't want to call attackme, but it started having a
total meltdown.
Total meltdown to the pointwhere it tell me why would you
(05:11):
trust me?
Uh, I should have known.
I don't know and I give you thewrong answers and it's a whole
thing.
I have it on my blog if youwant to go and check it on on my
linkedin profile.
The other thing that alsohappened with AI that was also a
con this week is when ChatGPTreleased five, you know,
thinking that it's gonna thebest after sliced bread and they
(05:35):
just removed everything, allthe other versions, and I was
like what's going on here?
I don't recognize my Bella chatGPT anymore and I kept going
back and forth, back and forth,and finally I guess I was not
the only one complaining aboutthat some Altman came back and
actually opened the the amountof information or amount of
(05:58):
prompts that we can use, becauseit was very little in the
beginning and also brought back4.0.
So when I went to 4.0, itactually explained to me what
happened with 5.0.
And I was with the help of 4.0,a lot of people had done
workflows and they were goingreally good with 4.0, and all of
(06:18):
a sudden they found somethingtalking to someone that is
basically a stranger five.
It's very professional, verystraightforward, but it doesn't
have that connectivity that fourhad.
So four actually helped meprompt five to to regain
whatever relationship I had withfour.
You want to hear somethingfunny?
(06:39):
Okay, version four isconvincing me not to leave it
and go to version five, andversion five is trying to
convince me not to go back toversion four.
Okay, so in my blog I'm sayingI'm not anti-AI.
Actually, I'm an advocate forAI, but I'm anti-illusion.
(07:00):
I go with it with very openeyes.
I know the pros and cons, Iknow the challenges, I know what
can happen if AI turns bad, butat this moment, if we don't
want it to turn it bad, we haveto learn it.
We cannot just dismiss it,saying, oh, it's going to be
like that movie that ArnoldSchwarzenegger was playing.
(07:26):
It's like I'll be back.
It's not about that, it's not.
We cannot dismiss it.
It's here, people, it's notgoing away.
So we need to really know andpractice how to use it to our
advantage so we can know what wecan prevent at the most, what
we can push away, how we canhave guardrails about it.
(07:50):
And only through studying itand pushing, and pushing, and
pushing.
And people, please don't takewhatever chat GPT, claude, meta
perplexity gives you as a versein the bible please don't push
back, keep pushing back.
You are the human, you are thebrain, you are the human brain.
(08:10):
It's called artificialintelligence for a reason,
because it's not your humanintelligence.
So please be careful I'm notnot even be careful, but be
aware, have your self-awarenesshigh, know when something
doesn't feel right and push back.
And the funny part is, claude, I, after that meltdown, I started
(08:33):
within five minutes a newconversation.
Guess what?
It didn't even remember becauseit doesn't have a memory.
It doesn't carry a memory fromconversation to the other,
totally forgot what happened.
So these are two main thingsthat I really wanted to share
because I thought it was a greatsuccess to have that.
(08:53):
So it's funny when I was tellingyou about my friend that I was
talking to about AI today.
So my friend is the skepticalperson about AI.
She doesn't use it.
She's not totally against usingit, but she's kind of skeptical
about it.
So let's call her T, okay.
And so I'm going to kind of gothrough a conversation that we
(09:16):
went through today.
So I was talking to T and I'mlike you know, I'm going to ask
questions because I'm preparingmy podcast.
So T looked at me and she goeslike oh, you want me to be your
guinea pig here for your podcastfor AI theories.
And I'm like actually, likereally, no, I mean, I know who
you are, I know you have a greatmind, you have a very
successful business, you know.
(09:38):
So I just I just want to talkto you about this.
So T answers back.
It's like I'm not reallyavoiding it, I'm just kind of
strategically waiting for it.
So, right away, what came to mymind is what I call the
executive AI resistance, wheretheir brain has very specific
(09:59):
reasons for it.
So today we are diving intofour ways.
Executives brain fights againstAI and why understanding the
neuroscience changes everything.
So, t, thank you so much forhelping me coming up with the
subject of today's podcast.
So I asked her.
(10:20):
I asked T.
T, let me ask you this when Imentioned Chad GPT and of course
I saw her eye rolls to the backof her head.
Okay, she was like okay.
So I said to her T, when Imentioned Chad GPT, what happens
in your brain?
What, what, what comes to you?
And she looked at me and shegoes like, of course, after the
couple rolls of eyes, she sayshonestly, it feels like someone
(10:43):
just dumped a textbook on mydesk and said figure it out,
there is too much stuff.
So I said, okay, perfect,that's your prefrontal cortex,
the one right in front of us,what we call a forehead,
experiencing whatneuroscientists call cognitive
(11:04):
overload.
Your brain is literally sayingnope to protect itself.
So T looked at me and she goeslike okay, does that mean that
my brain is just being lazy?
I told her no, actually it'sbeing very smart.
I told her no, actually it'sbeing very smart.
Your executive brain processesabout 126 emails, 72 decisions
(11:28):
and 200 plus information inputsdaily.
When AI shows up, offeringinfinite possibilities.
Your neural circuits hit thebrakes too much, like a car
(11:48):
overheating, okay.
So T looked at me and she goes.
Okay, actually that makes sense.
It's like walking into Costcowhen you just need milk.
It made me laugh.
So I told her exactly your brainexperiences what researchers
call choice architectureoverload.
Ai presents unlimited options,but your neural pathways are
(12:09):
designed for bounded choices.
She said so what's the solution?
Ignore AI forever.
I told her absolutely not.
You need what I call cognitivecontainers.
Start with one ai task, masterit for 30 days, then add another
(12:31):
.
Your brain builds neuralhighways gradually, not
instantly, instantly, one stepat a time.
So T answered like learning oneAI tool instead of trying to
master everything.
I said bingo.
By the way, I love playingbingo, bingo.
(12:53):
Your prefrontal cortex lovespredictable patterns.
Give it a structure and itstops fighting you.
So what we talked about next wasthe confidence crash.
I said here is what'sfascinating, t.
You run a company, you makethousands and thousands and
(13:16):
thousand dollars decisions, butput you in front of Chad GPT and
suddenly T looked at me likewith, like a corner of her eye,
like my little dog Bella looksat me like she goes.
Okay, I feel like an idiot.
Sometimes you want me to saythat Like I should know this
stuff right, I'm supposed to bethe expert.
(13:38):
My response to that where?
Because a lot of people feelthat way, they feel like they
have to be the expert and that'swhy they kind of even resisted
even more, because that or theyjust hide if they know it well
or not.
There is a shame behind thatfeeling somehow where it
(13:59):
shouldn't.
So I told welcome to theexecutive competence paradox.
Remember executives or leadersnot all of them, but some don't
want to show that they might notknow something because it's
vulnerable, but remember people.
Vulnerability is your highestsignal of self-confidence.
(14:23):
Your brain has neural pathwaysbuilt on decades of expertise.
Ai disrupts those pathways,triggering what neuroscience
call expertise threat response.
T looked at me again.
I was like okay, meaning.
My response was your brainliterally interprets AI as a
(14:46):
threat to your identity.
The same neural circuits thatmade you successful now resist
learning something that mightmake you feel incompetent.
To that he said.
So successful people areactually worst at learning AI.
(15:06):
I said initially yes, it'scalled the Dunning-Kruger flip.
The Dunning-Kruger flip Expertsbecome novices and your brain
hates that neurochemical shift.
Your dopamine.
(15:27):
That is your happy hormone thatwhen you win it flares up and
you feel great drops Cortisoldistress hormone spikes.
T said that explains why I getfrustrated so quickly with new
tech.
I said your brain is protectingyour self-concept.
(15:50):
But here is the key you need toreframe competence.
Instead of I should know this,think I am expanding my tool kit
.
It will create a parallel pathof that I should, shoulda,
coulda, woulda right, and itcreates new neural pathways that
(16:13):
will help you learn easier.
T responded to that, likelearning a new sport instead of
being bad at my current sport.
I said perfect analogy.
Create separate neural pathwaysfor AI skills.
You are not replacing yourexpertise, you're augmenting it.
(16:36):
T said that actually feelsdifferent.
It feels a little bit lessthreatening, which is awesome,
and I wanted to talk to herafter that about the control
freak's dilemma.
So I said now the big one T,you are a control-oriented
(17:00):
leader.
How does it feel to delegatedecisions to ai?
To which t said terrifying.
What if it screws up somethingimportant?
What if it makes me look bad infront of my team?
And this is actual fear.
We cannot deny that.
So I said your anteriorcingulate cortex, which is your
(17:25):
brain's control center, islighting up like a christmas
tree.
Right now executives are wiredfor control because it's kept
you successful.
T said exactly that.
Control equals results.
Ai feels like chaos.
(17:47):
I'm kind of paraphrasing, by theway, our conversation.
Of what I can remember from itI kind of took notes but I'm
just paraphrasing.
So I said but here is whatneuroscience reveals your need
for control isn't really aboutcontrol, it's about predictable
outcomes.
Your brain craves certainty.
T said so.
(18:09):
If AI could give me predictableresults, I said, your
resistance would dropdramatically.
This is why AI delegation worksin stages dramatically.
This is why AI delegation worksin stages.
Start with low stakes taskswhere mistakes don't matter.
She said like what?
Email drafts, meeting summaries, research compilation let your
(18:36):
brain build trust neuralpathways gradually.
Each successful AI interactionreleases dopamine for small wins
, literally rewiring your trustcircuits.
So T asked me so I train mybrain to trust AI the same way I
(18:58):
had trained it to trust a newemployee.
I said exactly your braindoesn't distinguish between
human and AI delegation Oncetrust pathways are established.
It's about pattern recognition,not philosophical debates.
She kind of had a sigh and shesaid that makes it feel
(19:25):
manageable instead ofexistential.
I asked T something because Iwanted to establish something
about the memory wars that we gothrough.
So I said, uh, final question tai has perfect memory.
(19:45):
I mean, let's put it that way,I don't want to say all ai, but
actually only chat gpt has aperfect memory.
I haven't seen any any other aiplatform as good as chat gpt
for its memory honestly handsdown.
So I uh.
My question to t was how doesthat make you feel about your
(20:08):
own memory?
T said like my brain isobsolete.
Why remember anything if aiknows everything?
I said this triggers whatneuroscience call cognitive role
confusion.
Your hippocampus, which is yourmemory center, doesn't know
(20:29):
what its job is anymore.
T looked at me funny and shesaid so my brain is having an
identity crisis.
I said precisely.
But here is the key insight AImemory and human memory serve
different functions.
Ai stores facts.
(20:51):
Your brain creates meanings.
Again she looked at me funnyand she goes like meaning.
I said your memory isn't juststorage, it's connection, making
you remember the context, theemotions, the relationships
behind information.
(21:11):
Ai cannot replicate that.
T kind of shook her head andshe said so I should let AI
handle the facts and focus onthe insights.
I said now you're thinking likea neuroscience.
(21:34):
Use AI as your external harddrive.
Your brain becomes theprocessor, not the storage unit.
T finally smiled and she goes,something that, if I remember
correctly she said, thatactually feels liberating.
I said because you're workingwith your brain's design, not
(21:55):
against it.
When we resist, we're actuallyworking against our brain design
for AI, not with it.
We're not competing with AI.
Ai is not competing with us ifwe don't let it, but we can
collaborate for better results.
So it was we're coming.
(22:18):
I mean, we both had to leave togo back to work and I asked her
T do you have any final thoughtsfor someone as skeptical as you
, or a skeptical executive?
T said your brain isn't brokenfor resisting AI.
(22:41):
This is what she said.
I think I would tell anybodyskeptical that their brain is
not broken for resisting AI.
It's actually working perfectly.
It's protecting what got youhere.
But once you understand whyit's fighting, you can work with
(23:04):
it, not against it.
And I could not have beenhappier because I couldn't have
said it better and that actuallywas my response.
Beautifully said Remember,executives, it's not about
replacing your brain with AI,it's about upgrading your neural
(23:24):
operating system.
Don't we do that every yearwithout the software for our
hardware.
Why wouldn't you that with yourbrain?
Remember your brain is the, isthe um, the hardware and your
thinking patterns and all thatand all the functional centers
(23:45):
in the brain is your software.
T said, hmm, who knew?
Apparently, my brain istrainable, and she was kind of
sarcastic about it.
I actually laughed and Ithanked her for being my guinea
pig for asking her the question.
(24:05):
People, next week we areexploring AI and executive
decision fatigue.
Until then, start small, buildtrust and remember your brain is
your greatest AI tool.
Show me some love like, comment, share, subscribe if you want
(24:30):
to listen to more of my podcast.
Slowly convert to the AI side,one neural pathway at a time.
This is Saharar, your aiwhisperer, signing off from ai
conversation till we meet nexttime.
(24:51):
If you have any question thatyou need to ask me, please email
me at sahar, atsaharconsultingcom.
One more thing I wanted to sharebefore I sign off is some of
you have been asking me abouthow my book is doing.
Actually, it's doing great.
It was when it was launched on8.8 Lionsgate.
(25:16):
It was on the number one newreleases on Amazon, the Coach's
Brain Meets AI, number one newrelease on Amazon and number two
bestseller in education,development for professionals.
Could you believe people thatGo and get it on Amazon?
(25:38):
The Coach's Brain Meets AI.
If you get it, email me.
I'll send you extra guides.
My email is sahar atsaharconsultingcom.
I'm signing off for now.
See you next week.
1, 2, 3, 4.
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to our new
episode in the AI CafeConversations.
I'm Sahar Andrade, your AIWhisperer Conversations.
I'm Sahar Andrade, your AIWhisperer, and today I have
(00:33):
great news that has to do withAI when it concerns healthcare,
and this is something that I'mso looking forward to see the
progress of it, because it'sgoing to help so many people
that I can't even contain howhappy I am.
I'm so happy and I feel sohopeful for the future and for
people that are suffering fromcertain health care challenges.
(00:55):
So let me start by the firstone.
Stanford researchers developeda brain-computer interface where
they have like an AI chip thatthey can implant in the brain of
paralyzed patients that wouldallow them to speak.
(01:15):
To speak paralyzed patients byjust imagining words in their
head.
How great is that?
How many people can?
That will help not only them,but their loved ones, where
they're going to be able toconnect with them through words,
(01:36):
maybe for the first time intheir life.
How great is that?
The interface achieved 74%accuracy, decoding imagined
speech from participants withsevere paralysis.
Isn't that great?
So, for people living withparalysis, this could
(02:00):
potentially be actually abreakthrough to get their voice
back, and I couldn't be happier.
The second thing, that, also onthe level of health care, some
scientists claim to have foundthe DNA switch that make us
(02:25):
human.
I was talking to someone todayabout that and I said, oh, can
you tone it down, can you?
Because I started sayingprimates and human beings and
all that.
So my friend told me, can youtone it down and bring it back
to regular terms?
As you know, my medicalbackground always kicks in.
So DNA is basically that thatthe genes that are in, that are
(02:50):
born with us, you know from, andwe get it through our parents
and into the modern humans thatwe are today.
(03:12):
Okay, there is a name for it,if you want to know it.
It's called har123 and it actslike a volume control for brain
development.
Right, and this actually DNA,or this, this part of of the,
the genetic switch that theyfound, you know it's uh, it's
(03:38):
done during the growth that wego through, and understanding
the difference where we switchto who we are today or the new
modern humans, if you want tocall it can potentially help
researchers develop bettertreatments for conditions like
autism.
(03:58):
Isn't both of these really agreat case for celebration from
AI, from the advancement of AI,and also AI is helping finding
diabetes, when it's going tohelp the human race, how it can
(04:28):
help us for the healthcare.
And don't get me wrong, I am notgoing blindsided into AI.
I'm very aware I just posted ablog on my LinkedIn profile
about what happens when your aiforgets you, and it happened.
I was talking to claude and itwe were deep in conversation
(04:51):
cloud anthropic and I keptpushing and pushing and pushing
because whatever he was sayingdidn't make a lot of sense and
when I pushed he actuallystarted.
I I don't want to call attackme, but it started having a
total meltdown.
Total meltdown to the pointwhere it tell me why would you
(05:11):
trust me?
Uh, I should have known.
I don't know and I give you thewrong answers and it's a whole
thing.
I have it on my blog if youwant to go and check it on on my
linkedin profile.
The other thing that alsohappened with AI that was also a
con this week is when ChatGPTreleased five, you know,
thinking that it's gonna thebest after sliced bread and they
(05:35):
just removed everything, allthe other versions, and I was
like what's going on here?
I don't recognize my Bella chatGPT anymore and I kept going
back and forth, back and forth,and finally I guess I was not
the only one complaining aboutthat some Altman came back and
actually opened the the amountof information or amount of
(05:58):
prompts that we can use, becauseit was very little in the
beginning and also brought back4.0.
So when I went to 4.0, itactually explained to me what
happened with 5.0.
And I was with the help of 4.0,a lot of people had done
workflows and they were goingreally good with 4.0, and all of
(06:18):
a sudden they found somethingtalking to someone that is
basically a stranger five.
It's very professional, verystraightforward, but it doesn't
have that connectivity that fourhad.
So four actually helped meprompt five to to regain
whatever relationship I had withfour.
You want to hear somethingfunny?
(06:39):
Okay, version four isconvincing me not to leave it
and go to version five, andversion five is trying to
convince me not to go back toversion four.
Okay, so in my blog I'm sayingI'm not anti-AI.
Actually, I'm an advocate forAI, but I'm anti-illusion.
(07:00):
I go with it with very openeyes.
I know the pros and cons, Iknow the challenges, I know what
can happen if AI turns bad, butat this moment, if we don't
want it to turn it bad, we haveto learn it.
We cannot just dismiss it,saying, oh, it's going to be
like that movie that ArnoldSchwarzenegger was playing.
(07:26):
It's like I'll be back.
It's not about that, it's not.
We cannot dismiss it.
It's here, people, it's notgoing away.
So we need to really know andpractice how to use it to our
advantage so we can know what wecan prevent at the most, what
we can push away, how we canhave guardrails about it.
(07:50):
And only through studying itand pushing, and pushing, and
pushing.
And people, please don't takewhatever chat GPT, claude, meta
perplexity gives you as a versein the bible please don't push
back, keep pushing back.
You are the human, you are thebrain, you are the human brain.
(08:10):
It's called artificialintelligence for a reason,
because it's not your humanintelligence.
So please be careful I'm notnot even be careful, but be
aware, have your self-awarenesshigh, know when something
doesn't feel right and push back.
And the funny part is, claude, I, after that meltdown, I started
(08:33):
within five minutes a newconversation.
Guess what?
It didn't even remember becauseit doesn't have a memory.
It doesn't carry a memory fromconversation to the other,
totally forgot what happened.
So these are two main thingsthat I really wanted to share
because I thought it was a greatsuccess to have that.
(08:53):
So it's funny when I was tellingyou about my friend that I was
talking to about AI today.
So my friend is the skepticalperson about AI.
She doesn't use it.
She's not totally against usingit, but she's kind of skeptical
about it.
So let's call her T, okay.
And so I'm going to kind of gothrough a conversation that we
(09:16):
went through today.
So I was talking to T and I'mlike you know, I'm going to ask
questions because I'm preparingmy podcast.
So T looked at me and she goeslike oh, you want me to be your
guinea pig here for your podcastfor AI theories.
And I'm like actually, likereally, no, I mean, I know who
you are, I know you have a greatmind, you have a very
successful business, you know.
(09:38):
So I just I just want to talkto you about this.
So T answers back.
It's like I'm not reallyavoiding it, I'm just kind of
strategically waiting for it.
So, right away, what came to mymind is what I call the
executive AI resistance, wheretheir brain has very specific
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reasons for it.
So today we are diving intofour ways.
Executives brain fights againstAI and why understanding the
neuroscience changes everything.
So, t, thank you so much forhelping me coming up with the
subject of today's podcast.
So I asked her.
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I asked T.
T, let me ask you this when Imentioned Chad GPT and of course
I saw her eye rolls to the backof her head.
Okay, she was like okay.
So I said to her T, when Imentioned Chad GPT, what happens
in your brain?
What, what, what comes to you?
And she looked at me and shegoes like, of course, after the
couple rolls of eyes, she sayshonestly, it feels like someone
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just dumped a textbook on mydesk and said figure it out,
there is too much stuff.
So I said, okay, perfect,that's your prefrontal cortex,
the one right in front of us,what we call a forehead,
experiencing whatneuroscientists call cognitive
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overload.
Your brain is literally sayingnope to protect itself.
So T looked at me and she goeslike okay, does that mean that
my brain is just being lazy?
I told her no, actually it'sbeing very smart.
I told her no, actually it'sbeing very smart.
Your executive brain processesabout 126 emails, 72 decisions
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and 200 plus information inputsdaily.
When AI shows up, offeringinfinite possibilities.
Your neural circuits hit thebrakes too much, like a car
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overheating, okay.
So T looked at me and she goes.
Okay, actually that makes sense.
It's like walking into Costcowhen you just need milk.
It made me laugh.
So I told her exactly your brainexperiences what researchers
call choice architectureoverload.
Ai presents unlimited options,but your neural pathways are
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designed for bounded choices.
She said so what's the solution?
Ignore AI forever.
I told her absolutely not.
You need what I call cognitivecontainers.
Start with one ai task, masterit for 30 days, then add another
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.
Your brain builds neuralhighways gradually, not
instantly, instantly, one stepat a time.
So T answered like learning oneAI tool instead of trying to
master everything.
I said bingo.
By the way, I love playingbingo, bingo.
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Your prefrontal cortex lovespredictable patterns.
Give it a structure and itstops fighting you.
So what we talked about next wasthe confidence crash.
I said here is what'sfascinating, t.
You run a company, you makethousands and thousands and
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thousand dollars decisions, butput you in front of Chad GPT and
suddenly T looked at me likewith, like a corner of her eye,
like my little dog Bella looksat me like she goes.
Okay, I feel like an idiot.
Sometimes you want me to saythat Like I should know this
stuff right, I'm supposed to bethe expert.
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My response to that where?
Because a lot of people feelthat way, they feel like they
have to be the expert and that'swhy they kind of even resisted
even more, because that or theyjust hide if they know it well
or not.
There is a shame behind thatfeeling somehow where it
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shouldn't.
So I told welcome to theexecutive competence paradox.
Remember executives or leadersnot all of them, but some don't
want to show that they might notknow something because it's
vulnerable, but remember people.
Vulnerability is your highestsignal of self-confidence.
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Your brain has neural pathwaysbuilt on decades of expertise.
Ai disrupts those pathways,triggering what neuroscience
call expertise threat response.
T looked at me again.
I was like okay, meaning.
My response was your brainliterally interprets AI as a
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threat to your identity.
The same neural circuits thatmade you successful now resist
learning something that mightmake you feel incompetent.
To that he said.
So successful people areactually worst at learning AI.
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I said initially yes, it'scalled the Dunning-Kruger flip.
The Dunning-Kruger flip Expertsbecome novices and your brain
hates that neurochemical shift.
Your dopamine.
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That is your happy hormone thatwhen you win it flares up and
you feel great drops Cortisoldistress hormone spikes.
T said that explains why I getfrustrated so quickly with new
tech.
I said your brain is protectingyour self-concept.
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But here is the key you need toreframe competence.
Instead of I should know this,think I am expanding my tool kit
.
It will create a parallel pathof that I should, shoulda,
coulda, woulda right, and itcreates new neural pathways that
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will help you learn easier.
T responded to that, likelearning a new sport instead of
being bad at my current sport.
I said perfect analogy.
Create separate neural pathwaysfor AI skills.
You are not replacing yourexpertise, you're augmenting it.
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T said that actually feelsdifferent.
It feels a little bit lessthreatening, which is awesome,
and I wanted to talk to herafter that about the control
freak's dilemma.
So I said now the big one T,you are a control-oriented
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leader.
How does it feel to delegatedecisions to ai?
To which t said terrifying.
What if it screws up somethingimportant?
What if it makes me look bad infront of my team?
And this is actual fear.
We cannot deny that.
So I said your anteriorcingulate cortex, which is your
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brain's control center, islighting up like a christmas
tree.
Right now executives are wiredfor control because it's kept
you successful.
T said exactly that.
Control equals results.
Ai feels like chaos.
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I'm kind of paraphrasing, by theway, our conversation.
Of what I can remember from itI kind of took notes but I'm
just paraphrasing.
So I said but here is whatneuroscience reveals your need
for control isn't really aboutcontrol, it's about predictable
outcomes.
Your brain craves certainty.
T said so.
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If AI could give me predictableresults, I said, your
resistance would dropdramatically.
This is why AI delegation worksin stages dramatically.
This is why AI delegation worksin stages.
Start with low stakes taskswhere mistakes don't matter.
She said like what?
Email drafts, meeting summaries, research compilation let your
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brain build trust neuralpathways gradually.
Each successful AI interactionreleases dopamine for small wins
, literally rewiring your trustcircuits.
So T asked me so I train mybrain to trust AI the same way I
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had trained it to trust a newemployee.
I said exactly your braindoesn't distinguish between
human and AI delegation Oncetrust pathways are established.
It's about pattern recognition,not philosophical debates.
She kind of had a sigh and shesaid that makes it feel
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manageable instead ofexistential.
I asked T something because Iwanted to establish something
about the memory wars that we gothrough.
So I said, uh, final question tai has perfect memory.
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I mean, let's put it that way,I don't want to say all ai, but
actually only chat gpt has aperfect memory.
I haven't seen any any other aiplatform as good as chat gpt
for its memory honestly handsdown.
So I uh.
My question to t was how doesthat make you feel about your
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own memory?
T said like my brain isobsolete.
Why remember anything if aiknows everything?
I said this triggers whatneuroscience call cognitive role
confusion.
Your hippocampus, which is yourmemory center, doesn't know
(20:29):
what its job is anymore.
T looked at me funny and shesaid so my brain is having an
identity crisis.
I said precisely.
But here is the key insight AImemory and human memory serve
different functions.
Ai stores facts.
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Your brain creates meanings.
Again she looked at me funnyand she goes like meaning.
I said your memory isn't juststorage, it's connection, making
you remember the context, theemotions, the relationships
behind information.
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Ai cannot replicate that.
T kind of shook her head andshe said so I should let AI
handle the facts and focus onthe insights.
I said now you're thinking likea neuroscience.
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Use AI as your external harddrive.
Your brain becomes theprocessor, not the storage unit.
T finally smiled and she goes,something that, if I remember
correctly she said, thatactually feels liberating.
I said because you're workingwith your brain's design, not
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against it.
When we resist, we're actuallyworking against our brain design
for AI, not with it.
We're not competing with AI.
Ai is not competing with us ifwe don't let it, but we can
collaborate for better results.
So it was we're coming.
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I mean, we both had to leave togo back to work and I asked her
T do you have any final thoughtsfor someone as skeptical as you
, or a skeptical executive?
T said your brain isn't brokenfor resisting AI.
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This is what she said.
I think I would tell anybodyskeptical that their brain is
not broken for resisting AI.
It's actually working perfectly.
It's protecting what got youhere.
But once you understand whyit's fighting, you can work with
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it, not against it.
And I could not have beenhappier because I couldn't have
said it better and that actuallywas my response.
Beautifully said Remember,executives, it's not about
replacing your brain with AI,it's about upgrading your neural
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operating system.
Don't we do that every yearwithout the software for our
hardware.
Why wouldn't you that with yourbrain?
Remember your brain is the, isthe um, the hardware and your
thinking patterns and all thatand all the functional centers
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in the brain is your software.
T said, hmm, who knew?
Apparently, my brain istrainable, and she was kind of
sarcastic about it.
I actually laughed and Ithanked her for being my guinea
pig for asking her the question.
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People, next week we areexploring AI and executive
decision fatigue.
Until then, start small, buildtrust and remember your brain is
your greatest AI tool.
Show me some love like, comment, share, subscribe if you want
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to listen to more of my podcast.
Slowly convert to the AI side,one neural pathway at a time.
This is Saharar, your aiwhisperer, signing off from ai
conversation till we meet nexttime.
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If you have any question thatyou need to ask me, please email
me at sahar, atsaharconsultingcom.
One more thing I wanted to sharebefore I sign off is some of
you have been asking me abouthow my book is doing.
Actually, it's doing great.
It was when it was launched on8.8 Lionsgate.
(25:16):
It was on the number one newreleases on Amazon, the Coach's
Brain Meets AI, number one newrelease on Amazon and number two
bestseller in education,development for professionals.
Could you believe people thatGo and get it on Amazon?
(25:38):
The Coach's Brain Meets AI.
If you get it, email me.
I'll send you extra guides.
My email is sahar atsaharconsultingcom.
I'm signing off for now.
See you next week.
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