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September 15, 2025 25 mins

In this episode, Jaeden Schafer interviews Zac Staples, founder and CEO of Fathom 5, a defense technology company focused on industrial AI systems for maritime and national security. Zac discusses his transition from a Navy commander to tech entrepreneur, the significance of AI in naval operations, and the development of the Tempest operating system. He emphasizes the importance of predictive maintenance, robotic systems, and ethical considerations in AI, while also addressing the need for speed and safety in technology integration. The podcast highlights the strategic advantages of AI in deterring conflict, particularly in relation to China.




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00:00 Introduction to Zac Staples and Fathom 5

01:01 Transition from Navy to Entrepreneurship

02:56 Deployment of AI in Navy Warships

06:06 AI's Role in National Security Against China

09:20 Predictive Maintenance and AI Technology

11:07 The Future of Robotics in Defense

12:56 US Technology Supremacy and Defense Innovations

15:27 Ethical Considerations of AI in Defense

19:30 Balancing Speed and Safety in AI Development

21:28 Excitement and Concerns about AI in Defense

24:05 Future Impact of AI on National Security

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