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June 12, 2025 47 mins

What if we’re all chasing the wrong kind of AI? Dr. Ruchir Puri, Chief Scientist of IBM, argues that Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is overrated—and that we should be focusing instead on AUI: Artificial Useful Intelligence. This is a pragmatic, business-focused approach to AI that emphasizes real-world value, measurable outcomes, and implementable solutions.

In this episode of AI-Curious, we explore what AUI actually looks like in practice. We discuss how to bring AI into your organization (even if you’re just getting started), why IBM is betting big on small language models (SLMs), and how companies can move beyond hype toward real, trustworthy AI agents that do actual work.

You’ll also hear:

  • Why AI usefulness is a function of both quality and cost [00:11:00]
  • The “crawl, walk, run” strategy IBM recommends for business adoption [00:14:00]
  • Internal IBM examples: HR systems and coding assistants [00:16:00]
  • Why SLMs may be a smarter bet than LLMs for many enterprises [00:37:00]
  • A breakdown of how agentic systems are evolving to reflect, act, and self-correct [00:41:00]

Whether you’re leading a startup or an enterprise, this conversation will help you reframe how you think about deploying AI—starting not with hype, but with value.

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