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July 12, 2025 44 mins
Babak Hodjat, CTO for AI at Cognizant and a pioneer behind the technology that became Siri, joins us to discuss the new era of agentic AI. We dig into his early days building natural language systems, the evolution of multi-agent architectures, and how language interfaces are shaping the future of human-AI collaboration. We also discuss the safeguards needed to ensure trust in autonomous systems, the challenge of AI’s black box, and the emerging standards for interoperability. Subscribe to the YouTube channel! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@aiinsideshow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Enjoying the AI Inside podcast? Please rate us ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcatcher of choice! Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 00:00⁠ - Podcast begins01:45⁠ - Introducing Babak Hodjat and his journey from Dejima to Siri02:47⁠ - The origins of agent-based AI and early natural language systems06:21⁠ - Language as the ultimate interface: strengths and limitations09:35⁠ - How modern AI capabilities could have changed early voice agents13:08 - Agentic systems versus traditional APIs in enterprise tech16:10⁠ - How Cognizant builds and deploys agent-based AI for clients18:18 - The need for interoperability and emerging agent standards20:49 - Do agents develop their own languages? Internal communication in LLMs23:01⁠ - Multilingual models, cultural context, and emotional abstraction26:49⁠ - Can AI truly understand meaning? Perspectives on abstraction27:50 - Safeguards, kill switches, and trust in agentic automation32:05 - Marketing, influence, and negotiation in an agent-driven world35:07⁠ - The risks of over-trusting black box AI systems36:47⁠ - The evolution of AI: what’s truly new versus what’s rediscovered39:26 - Thank you to Babak Hodjat for joining the AI Inside podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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