Alien Leaks

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Tony Teora (00:16):
Welcome to Alien Agenda episode number one, this
is your host, Tony Teora and Ihave my co-host on online here,
Ron Watkins.
This is our first show.
We're going to be talking aboutAlien Leaks and also we want to
talk a little bit about thecancel culture, and I'm really
excited because we'd been doingCrazy Curious Minds with my
other partner in crime, ChadMcKinney, but he's too busy

(00:37):
trying to make money and get hisPhD in San Diego and surf, I
think.
But he was kind enough to joinback on this show.
Um, we also had Haze Robinson,um, the lead singer from the
Electromagnetic band.
So I want to, I want to thank my, uh, my new co-host Ron.
Thanks really, really appreciateyou, uh, willing to partner up
with me on these podcasts.

(00:58):
Thanks for being, yeah.

Ron Watkins (00:59):
Yeah.
Thanks.
Thanks for, thanks for invitingme on, uh, it's really an honor.
And, uh, I think we're going toget to the bottom of a lot of
stuff here.

Tony Teora (01:06):
I think we're going to get to the bottom of a lot of
stuff and some people say thatit's actually dangerous, what
we're working on and Chad, andHayes are going to talk a little
bit about that.
As long as we don't end up at abottom of a hole in a New Jersey
garbage pit.
(laughing) I know I know how todig out of those holes.
So I'm not that worried by theway away, because I am from New
Jersey.

(01:26):
You know, we try to keep theshow---

Chad McKinney (01:27):
You just need air pockets.
That's all you need to workwith---(laughing)

Tony Teora (01:29):
Air pockets?
Is that what it is?
Had you used that how you gotoutta the holes.
We try to keep the show a littlebit light.
So, you know, this is someserious topic today, but we do
joke around.
So anybody listening, we reallyhope you enjoy the show.
Um, and we have Hayes who is arock and roller, but he's also
really into, um, alien stuff.
So I'm really pleased to haveyou on, Haze, thanks for sure.

Nice to be here.
Thanks for having me.
It's an honor.

Tony Teora (01:54):
All right.
Great.
So, um, Ron boy, boy, you know,um, after working with you on
that last podcast, we, we didsome talking about a book and
other things, and since I'm intoscience fiction and you know,
you're into, uh, research anddevelopment, it looks like, you
know, cause you've, you've seena lot of these, you've run all

(02:14):
these different BBSs and stuff,and you've seen these posts and
man, did you come up with onehell of an idea?
Holy smokes.
So guys, I don't want to takethe, you know, the weight of
what Ron's probably going todisclose here, but I mean like,
I mean this, this concept ofalien leaks, could you tell me a

(02:35):
little, tell the viewers andlisteners, I should say, um, a
little about what alien leaks isand what the goal's are?

Okay.
So the alien leaks project isgoing to be like an anonymous
drop box for anybody to, uh,put, send documents to.
And, uh, it's really inspired byWikiLeaks and the work that
Julian Assange did on adjustedwith, uh, government
accountability, but instead of,uh, focusing on government

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accountability, uh, the goal ofalien leaks is to focus on, uh,
extra terrestrial disclosure,like, uh, including topics
related to alien technology,alien biology, communications
with aliens.
Uh, this is all interestingstuff and I'm sure there's
people around the world sittingon documents and troves of

(03:29):
information about it.
And they don't have anywhere tosend that, that data because if
they send it to like a massmedia or something, the media is
going to cover up the data.
Really,

Tony Teora (03:43):
You don't, so you don't trust the media, anybody
on this line, Chad, you trustedme.
You're this psychologist.
Right.
You know, so, and writing allthe, you know, do you trust the
media?

That's the only place I know where to get my
truths from Tony.

Tony Teora (03:57):
Yeah.
It's kind of sad.
Isn't it?
Everybody.
Yeah.

Well, I'll tell you why 90% of media is owned by
five major stakeholders in thegame

Tony Teora (04:10):
Or your fool.
Okay.
So I guess we're all inagreement here that the media we
can't trust.
So continue on rod.
So you're right.
So yeah, go ahead.

So we, we, we can't trust the media to discuss this
properly and the media, you know, uh, there, there's a project
called project Mockingbird whereit's run by the CIA, which I
believe the project was the CIAbasically controls what the
media is allowed to say.
So that's project Mockingbird.

(04:38):
You can go look it up.
And uh, so like this alienstuff, probably I I'm guessing
if a media outlet getsinformation about it, then
they're going to ask their CIAhandler, Hey, talk about this.
And then the CIA's be like, nah,don't, don't talk about that.
Right.

Tony Teora (04:56):
Well, I got, I got two questions for you, Ron.
So you didn't, you didn't giveme, you know, you gave me most
of the information, but, um, soJuliana signs, um, could he help
us out, do you think?
Or what's he up to these days?

Well, we'll join us on she's incarcerated, uh, on
bogus charges and in England,the UK right now.
And he put out a, he put out astatement a few days ago that he
was dying, which is unfortunateto hear, but that sucks.
I hope, I hope he gets outthere.
There are rumors of him gettinga part in with Trump, but, uh,

(05:30):
you know, the, the events ofJanuary six caused like Trump's
was all his political capitaland he wasn't able to do the
part in that the last minute

Tony Teora (05:38):
You think he would've done it?
If he could have,

I think he was going to do it, but he didn't
because it's either join us onJordan himself.
And he chose himself.

Tony Teora (05:48):
This is absolutely it's crazy, dude.
Are you telling me that?
Like, you know, like, I mean, Ithink it's really sad, Julie.
I don't know the whole story ofJulian since I know lot about
it.
And I know that he was one ofthe shoe investigators, you know
what I mean?
Like he got information postedabout the Iraq war showed a lot
of that was going on.
I mean, he did true journalismand journalists years ago used

(06:08):
to take those kind of chances.
But now it sounds like they putthe guy in jail, they try to
crop up charges, you know, thatthey they're killing him in
jail.
He's dying.
I mean, that's the price for,for journalism today.
I mean, and then you look atlike, you know, Greenwald, I
mean, this is the whole cancerculture thing, you know, he was
talking about this.
Um, you know, I mean, is thatthe price?

(06:29):
I mean, I, you don't think thatthey're like going to go after
us for alien leaks.
They, I mean, the governmentsays there's no aliens out there
anyhow.
So there's nothing to worryabout, right?

Yeah.
I mean, the government saysthere's no aliens and the
scientists say there's nomillions, but, uh, you, you
know, with the scientific andacademic, uh, communities, uh,
their, like their thoughts onaliens is that it's never
aliens.
So if you have like proof orsomething that really looks like
aliens, you're not allowed topublish it well, or you're going

(07:03):
to face a, like, uh, you'regoing to face the wrath of all
your peers.

They do that across the spectrum.

Like the Harvard, the Harvard, a Harvard
researcher, I believe he's gotlike thirties, many, many
decades of experience doing likeastrophysics.
And then he, he saw the Omo, uh,object that flew through the,
uh, the source system and said,gee, it looks like an alien
spaceship or something, but thisis coming from like a tenured

(07:35):
Harvard professor onastrophysics, like a professor.
And the whole community is like,nah, it can't be aliens.
No way.
Well,

Tony Teora (07:45):
They have tenure professors that were doing, you
know, w we talked about this onthe other show chatter.
And I think Hayes might've beenon there where our tenured
Harvard professor was, you know,analyzing, it was in the movie,
the phenomena, the, um, aboutUFO's and Harvard professor
tenured Harvard professors doingresearch on people who say,
they've been abducted by aliens.

(08:07):
You know, now this guy ends upgetting run over in England, you
know, running.
I mean, it probably was,hopefully it was just an act
helped somebody didn't try tomurder the guy, but you know, he
, he went around, but you can'tget this information.
They tried, as you said, one ofthe other shows this thing
called memory hole and memory,the memory hole, this
information, you can't even findit.
You know, the one guy, um, Isend some information out to

(08:27):
other folks.
There was a guy who had likehacked into government computers
and found information aboutalien spaceships and whatnot.
And he's in England and he's gotlike Asperger's disease or
something like that.
And, you know, they've beentrying to ship him out to the U
S also, um, it's, it's reallysad.
So, so I tend to believe thatthere's stuff out there.
So the question, you know, weput together, I put together

(08:48):
alien agenda site, you know, andwith the podcast and you know,
I've agreed and I'm veryinterested in, matter of fact,
we were talking of mutuallyabout this.
I'm looking forward to seeingwhat you get in Allen lake,
because I want to be one of thefirst to post this stuff and
analyze it.
We're going to analyze thisstuff together, you know, using
the scientific method.
Um, what do you think this isgoing to go, Ron?
W R w I like to hear also, whatdo you think this is going to

(09:11):
go?
Well,

Hopefully those scientists that are sitting on
the data that they're notallowed to publish.
Right.
We'll, we'll send him the dataand then we can all have a look
at it and perhaps they'llscrubbed their name off it, so
they don't get in trouble.
Right.
But yeah, or, or not, I mean,

Tony Teora (09:33):
A little bit while there's no aliens and nobody,
but the problem is going to bethis.
Like I worked for the governmentbefore.
Okay.
And these guys are gonna havelike, like very strong.
They even use the word NDA.
Non-disclosure, it's worse thana, non-disclosure a lot of these
things.
They, they'll just going tothrow you in jail.
If you disclose any statesecrets right

Now, death assessed, I think is what it
stands for.
When you get to that level.
I

Tony Teora (09:54):
Read, I read one.
I don't even know if I'm allowedto talk about it.
Some probably shouldn't, but I'mgoing to tell you a lot of, I
think I can say, as I said,holy, is this even legal?
You know, you know, I mean like,and I'm like, well, it.
I want it the money.
So I signed it, you know, but,um, you know, so what I, what I
wonder is is what a researcher,you know, is out there and say,

(10:17):
for example, they get, um, anartifact say it's a crashed, you
know, flying saucer.
We'll use the word Saltzer andit's got, say, you know,
anti-gravity propulsion, it'sgot three engines and, and
whatnot.
And it's got a special materialthat it uses to create, you
know, anti-gravity fields orwhatever you want to call.

(10:39):
And the guy's got designs onthis and he puts it out, uh, and
we get it right.
So we, we post this stuff, likewe analyze it.
And then we say, you know what?
It was, I'm a few credits, shortphysics degree in a math degree,
you know, I was liked physics.
And that doesn't mean that Iknow Jack about this stuff, but
we'll talk to people who do youknow, and we'll analyze this and

(10:59):
we'll say, holy, this isanti-gravity right.
The professor, the professorsthat we spoke to anonymously,
who, you know, were in hidingand they say, yeah, this is
anti-gravity man.
And we post anti-gravity righton our website, be posted.
Right.
And it's irrefutable, you know,and it's new technology.

(11:20):
What, what, what, I have someideas, but I want to hear your,
your thinking.
I want to hear the other folksthinking too.
How does this help humanity?

Uh, did you want me to riff on that or,

Tony Teora (11:37):
Oh, you know what Hayes Chad.
Oh, I have a question for you,other guys.
So Chad and Hayes, do you think,do you think that if we post
cause I'm doing it, I mean, likeI already made the decision, so
maybe I'll change my mind if youguys can convince me to change
my mind.
Maybe, maybe, maybe, you know,but, um, do you think that
posting information about alientechnology is going to help

(11:59):
humanity or screw it up?

I think it's going to touch base with some people,
but in the day and age, whereanybody with any common sense or
I would call it uncommon sensenowadays.
Um, the question informationthat they're finding online.
So you're going to have peoplethat buy into it and believe it.
And especially if you have areputable source, um, but you're

(12:32):
still going to have, you know, alarge group of people that are
going to mock you and stuffstill, even though, as we said
earlier, the government doesn'tand people don't think that
UFO's exist, but the military isfinally starting to admit that
there's things out there thatthey don't have control over and
they don't know who'scontrolling them.

(12:54):
Um, so that's a tough one.
I mean, I think it's awesome tohave a site similar to
WikiLeaks, WikiLeaks, wherepeople can put that information
in and they can, uh, you know,put it, I think we have
ex-military, don't have toidentify themselves.
And then you take it with agrain of salt.
You, you know, other, not, youbelieve, you know, the

(13:15):
information there and howbelievable it is.
And, you know, you're hoping tohave people are going to
question it and think it's.

Tony Teora (13:24):
Right.
But, but if he put out a chat, Iwant to ask you a question,
because this is related to your,your brain, which doesn't work
as a normal human being.
Um, you know, um, you know,you're familiar with like the
Brookings report that said thatpeople weren't ready for UFO's
or aliens.
Yeah.
So, I mean like, do we havepeople ready for this?

(13:45):
Like if we put a picture, sayfor example, of a true, you
know, ITI or electrical, youknow, an extra test of
biological entity, which is whatI think people call them EBS,
um, a true picture or, or, youknow, a picture of a UFO that's
flying, or we actually getscientific information that

(14:06):
says, look, we've done studies.
These, these beings are like,you know, clone robots, they
don't eat food.
They absorb, you know, theirenergy from the air.
They're kinda like a tour fullin your skin.
You know, all this interestingtechnology.
We talk about this stuff.
I mean, it's just going toshare, scare the out of people.
I mean, like OMI and Ron gonnalike destroy the world, you

(14:26):
know, that's what I want toknow.
I just want to know that beforeI destroy the world,

You'll have the green light before you hit that
red button.
Well,

Tony Teora (14:36):
You know, I already hit the red button.
I'm going to do it anywaybecause I'm a science fiction
guy.
So I'll just say it's allscience fiction when it's
probably real, but you know, soshe'll try and help me out.
You're like my psychologist,I've said this on the other
show, I needed somebody like youto kind of like, keep me
straight.
So mentally know in, in astraight line here.
So tell me, am I nuts?
Or, or is this going to helpsociety?

(14:56):
Well,

I mean, those are irrelevant.
You're for sure nuts.
But I do, like, I'd say, I'd saya couple of different things on
it.
One, um, I feel like it dependson who you're asking, because
you mentioned like, will itscrew everything up?
And it, you know, if you look atthe world right now where we

(15:19):
have it

Tony Teora (15:20):
All, like it's not screwed up now.
Right?
Exactly.

But for those people who are wielding control,
then you'll screw it up forthem, for sure.
Cause it will at least bringsome things into question for
those who are acquiescenceacquiescing to that authority.
Um, but in terms of like wherepeople will go from here, it
depends, you know, like I wasjust reading 1984 recently and I

(15:46):
liked the one mantra.
Um, the most important pillar isto reject any, any truth with
your eyes and ears first andforemost, it's not that like
that, you know, you can postwhatever the hell you want to on
there and people are gonna makeof it what they want to

Tony Teora (16:01):
You can't post anymore.
You know, Facebook, all themInstagram.
I mean like this is going to bea cancer culture.
I think at least two of you guyshave been canceled already.
Right?
I mean like, you know, can youreally post it?
What you want?
Is that true?

You've been banned a couple of times.
Okay.
Well, we can get into thatlater, but I want to add real
quick if you don't mind that thebig thing, the big scare about,
um, how people would accept it.
Um, an alien, um, presence wasalways, um, the, the whole
religion thing.

(16:36):
It was always said that that'sgoing to scare religions.
People will go crazy.
They can't handle it because ifthey're highly religious, it's
going to throw all that out thedoor and people mass suicides
and yada yada, yada.
But it was about eight, 10 yearsago.
I think the Vatican, someonefrom the Vatican started saying
that, you know, possibly theycould be, you know, God's

(16:58):
creation can be the universe andthere could be more, um,
creatures up there.
They're all part of God's plan.
So they've been slowly butsurely trying to, I think, get
people ready that are religious.
So it's not a major shock thateverything they believe is okay.
So getting back.

Tony Teora (17:16):
So let me ask you, you know, like, so related to
the Brooklyn's report, I thinkthat's what is used by a lot of
these people to say, we can'ttell people is like in the 1960s
or whatever that, you know, wetell everybody they're all gonna
freak out.
We're gonna lose religion.
Countries are gonna, so do you,what do you think?
I mean, I heard that more than50% of the people already
believe in this stuff.
Right.
And the government's justbasically hiding.

(17:37):
I think they're hiding.
It is basically for military,you know, programs and control
the population.
I think, you know, the people inpower, people in power, like
being in power and they likehaving a bunch of slaves work
and, and if the slaves wake up,they might start asking
questions.
Right.
You know?
And so, so I think that unlessyou like, like an advance

(17:59):
advancement in technology doesnot mean that you're an advanced
society.
You can have a kids with likehand grenades and guns and
samurai swords that are likeeight, nine and 10 year olds and
six year olds and they're gonnakill each other.
Right.
I mean, that's just because theyhave advanced technology, they
got cars and they got bombs andthey got buttons.
The nuclear bombs doesn't makethat six to seven, eight year
old group of kids, a bunch ofgeniuses that can run the world.

(18:20):
Right.
And if you start giving, youknow, major technology to
humanity, which I think hasalready happened, I think it's
been stolen and, and, and dealshave been made to be Frank.
And it's going to soundcompletely crazy.
And I don't think humanityreally is evolved enough to use
the technology.
I think, I think actually havingthis technology from aliens in
some ways is going to be verydangerous.
I think spiritually, you know,humanity needs to evolve.

(18:42):
So like, you know, maybe, maybelike somebody is going to give
us a document, say, Hey, whatwould we do if it wasn't like an
anti-gravity device thatsomebody supplies to suppose
somebody said, look, this is adocument that alien said related
to spirituality and developmentof ethics and morality that
humanity needs to do, but weweren't allowed to post it

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because they'd kill us.
You know, wouldn't that be?
Chad, we'll hear from you onthis.
Wouldn't that be interesting ifwe actually got something from
aliens that wasn't liketechnology, it was more related
to social development.
What do you think of that?

Well, I think two things, you know, I, there's two
things I have to that I I'llfail.
I'll finish the second one in asecond, but the first is I think
it, I think a gun is notdangerous.
A gun is basically nothingwithout the heart of the user,
you know?
So I think you hit the nail onthe head, the spirituality of

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the person in what they do withthat technology is going to
determine whether it's a benefitor a detriment to society and
humankind and everything else.
So I think, you know, working onour own spiritual development
and finding what needs to behealed within ourselves will
also help to heal that in theworld.
So I think you really hit thenail on the head.
And I th I feel there's somepeople who are ready to hear it.

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And there's some people who,whether it comes from an alien
or their next door neighbor, ora person on the street or a
televangelist or whoever else,you know, they just, it's
cognitive dissonance.
We've always talked about wherepeople just will do anything in
the world to justify their ownworldview, including up to, and
including leaving their body,uh, for the sake of protection.

(20:24):
You know, like sometimes you'llget that, uh, you know, uh,
multiple personality disorder,which is now called dissociative
identity personality disorder,uh, because the trauma is so
evasive or invasive that theperson just has to leave because
it's too much for the psyche tohandle.
So I think really, like yousaying, like, there's some

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people who is going to wake up,it's going to inspire.
And really the end of the day,the whole world doesn't need to
wake up.
Just like that.
The phenomenon movie we watched,uh, you know, 1% of the entire
us pie, the entire worldpopulation, if they wake up and,
you know, I haven't verifiedthose numbers or not, but you
know, it doesn't take much.

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I mean, if 1% of the populationcan control this the entire
world in many ways, you know, itcan go both ways if it can be
used for detriment could be usedfor benefit.

Tony Teora (21:18):
Well, you know, I agree that's one of his, I like
having you on the show, Chad,and we don't do a lot of
advertising on this show.
So what I do want to mention is,um, you know, you have a book
out in San Diego that's like inall the airports that you can
buy on Amazon, could you mentionthe name of that book and, um,
how it might relate to this alittle bit.

Thanks, Tony.
Uh, yeah, I appreciate that,man.
Um, so the book is called heavenand the, now a journey through
mind, body, and soul.
And basically it ultimately issomething that people can keep
in their hand that they can flipthrough and hopefully use to
better lives for a happier, morepeaceful, joyful, healthy life.
And it breaks down the Castro'sreality death or what we think

(21:59):
of death, um, identifications,which is ultimately what leads
to a lot of our suffering interms of attachments or
expectations, judgments, thingsof that nature.
And then it finishes with, youknow, meditation techniques and
things of that nature as well.
So we can dive deeper into ourown wellbeing and take

(22:20):
responsibility for our own, ourown health.

Tony Teora (22:22):
Okay.
I've read your, I read your bookand I already mentioned it
before I read your first book,which was a piece of crap.
And then I read and I read, andthen, and then, and then I read
this one and I was just like,okay, who wrote it for you?
Nah, no, no, I'm joking.
You you've evolved over many,many years as a writer.
And I think your book is, iswonderful.
And I think that is the kind ofspirituality, regardless if it

(22:44):
was written by aliens or not,um, you know, that humanity
needs to evolve and, you know,um, you know, I'm also a writer
and I plugged that on the showto, you know, people can get my
books on Amazon by looking forTony T or my science fiction.
I try to throw in some of those,by the way, I appreciate that
plug, you know, but I try tothrow in spirituality in my

(23:04):
books and comedy.
So, you know, even though it'sscience fiction, I always try to
throw a little bit in, gotta becareful not to preach in books
because people don't want to bepreached to, they want to be
entertained.
So I try to entertain some, youknow, my, my smart pills, my
smart Bill's book is prettyentertaining.
I think it's doing pretty.

You do a good, you do a good mixture between
the two.
Like it stopped provoking it'saction, but it's also, you know,
you really, you drop knowledge,but in a way that is humorous,
but also makes

Tony Teora (23:29):
You think at the same time.
Well, I don't want to, I don'twant to be focusing too much on
this.
I don't want people thinkingwe're doing like, you know, tons
of plugins here, but we don't doany advertising.
We try to, uh, support thisthrough, through our books and
things like that.
So I'm to continue on alienleaks, what you had said
earlier, Chad, um, I, you know,I think you're right.

(23:53):
I think that like technology isa moral, right.
But we need to have a moralsociety and I don't think we
have it.
I think our society is atop-down total.
Tarion screw up these days.
And I, and you know, when itcomes to like UFO's and stuff
like that, I mean, they askedthe other day by president
Biden.
Okay.
Now, um, you know, I don't, Idon't, I don't hate Biden.

(24:15):
He's our president.
And I respect him as president.
I think he does say some stump,dumb stuff.
I think most presidents upset, awhole bunch of dumb stuff, you
know?
Um, but the other day was askedabout UFO's because Obama got on
some TV show and was talkingabout, does anybody did anybody
on this here on the, on the teamhere?
Heard about that?
About what happened with Biden.

Yeah.
Yeah.
I saw the interview.
Biden's like, oh, why don't youjust go, I'm going to go ask
about, yeah.
Awesome.
What do you know about UFO's?
He's like, oh, I'm not going toask about

Tony Teora (24:47):
It.
What is it?
Bomb is still his boss.
Is that what he thinks?
Has he that's seen all that.
He's still thinking he's workingfor Obama.
What the hell is going on inAmerica?
And I'm not even, Hey, you know,me and Ron aren't even in
America, I don't even know whereIran is.
He won't tell me where he is.
I think it's confidential.
But, um, you know, um, but Chadand Hayes, you guys aren't like,
like you guys are in San Diegostill, right,

Right up the hill from Chad.

Tony Teora (25:10):
Yep.
So what the hell is going on inAmerica?
Can you guys tell me how thingsgot so up?
Sorry.
I mean,

Just quickly, honestly, I think it has lots of
view with the fact that the, themajority of the university you
have become extremely, not justleft, but permanently extreme
liberal extremism.
And they've taken, I mean, forChrist's sake, Berkeley was, was

(25:46):
moderately.
They brought out the whole freespeech thing in 1977.
They brought it, made Americansaware of look at this unique
thing.
You have our days, they're themost liberal college.
And they're, they're all aboutsuppression and intolerance.

Tony Teora (26:04):
Well, I don't want, you know, I don't, you know,
labels are okay.

I honestly, because we're, we're, we're spinning out
generation children that aren'tgoing to college and getting
perspective from multiple anglesand coming up with their own
conclusion.
They're being told thatcapitalism is the evil of
everything and the conservativesare the devil.
Literally.

Tony Teora (26:28):
No, no, we're getting it.
It's okay to get into politics.
I don't care what we get into,but what I, I wanna, I wanna, I
wanna stay focused on the alienstuff.
And I wanted, what I wanted toknow was like this cancer
culture, man.
I mean, like it's justabsolutely nuts, right?
So

There's no freedom of speech anymore.
It's either you agree with themor your preacher on the planet.
Well, do you know why it'sbecause their ideology is don't
stand up to logic.
So when you question them onlike their core beliefs, they
don't have an answer.

Tony Teora (27:02):
Well, that's the thing.
I mean, I mean like,

Well, you can end almost any argument with
somebody by asking five simplewords.
How do you know that

You can win any argument by asking, are you a
racist?
No, just, just by, by accusingsomeone of being in any type of
word, people use words is, is away to end the logical dialogue.
And then they think they win.
They think they've won and theydon't get it going to come right
back, full circle.

(27:36):
Do that again.

Tony Teora (27:38):
You know what I don't like, I won, like, and
that's going to sound crazy.
But you know, I wasn't like,like in grammar school, I'd like
the science award, you know,there's a big public school and
I had a scholarship to prepschool.
So, you know, part of my brainworks and part of it doesn't
work very well, you know, and Iknow that, but you know, I, I
love science.
Right.
And I, and I love freedom and Ilove, you know, being able to

(27:59):
ask a question and, you know, itwas interesting.
I was watching something on awebsite called the zero hedge
and, and I've been doing my ownresearch.
I had been listening to peopletalk about gain of function
research, like in January of2020.
And then, and I looked at it andI even said to some, one of the
podcasts, probably vaccinationnation or something that me and

(28:20):
Chad were on.
You know, we're talking about,you know, the virus and vaccines
are one of the shows and, youknow, I didn't think it was
crazy to question me if you havea blue Han lab and that's the
main facility for doing all thebiological research, you know?
And it has a bat woman.
Who's like, you know, who'sexpert in bad viruses.
And it just so happens thatlike, within like 15 kilometers

(28:41):
out of all, one of the biggestcountries in the world, he
turned, it might even be thebiggest country in the world
probably is, you know, um, youknow, geographic and population.
I don't know if it's still aspopulation, but geographically
it's like the biggest, you know,country and coincidentally, you
know, one of one of, you know,and we didn't quit genetically
like within 15 kilometers of theplace, you know, that's what the
virus, you know, gets loose.

(29:02):
Right.
And everybody's like, oh no, no,there's no possible, you know,
you're a racist, you're goingagainst the Chinese.
The Italians are trying to hugChinese that are all in there,
you know, and they're saying,oh, you're being racist because
you don't have the Chinese.
I mean, it's just crazy.
Right?
Yeah.
You

Have to be careful with the COVID stuff because
we'll get shut down.
No, no, the origin doesn'tmatter.
Right.
So if it came from a lab, itdoesn't matter if it came
naturally, it doesn't matter.
It came from that wet market.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
What matters is that it was usedas a weapon.
Yes.
It was not developed or it mayor may not have been developed

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as a weapon, but it wascertainly used as one.
So, uh, you, you have to look atthis, uh, this whole gain of
function stuff is just, uh, alimited hangout there they're
giving you.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Maybe it was leaked from a labor there's lab external or
whatever.
But what they're trying to coverup is that it was used as a
weapon.
So if you, if you remember backto January, 2020, the Chinese

(30:02):
shutdown, all their domesticflights to and from, but they
kept all of their internationalflights from Ohio and all, all
of the planes, all of the planesleaving who had like going for
the states or going for Europe,the countries are complaining.
Why are you sending these planeshere?
And, you know, trying to said,what are you racist or you're

(30:24):
racist for not further.
So the world got, got played,everybody got social engineered,
nobody wants to be racist.
So they let the plague intotheir countries.
Isn't that great.
But China doesn't China doesn'thave a problem because they shut
down their entire domestic.
They know exactly what they'redoing.

(30:45):
So they used it as a weapon.
It might or might not have beendeveloped as one, but it was
certainly used as a weapon.

Tony Teora (30:51):
Interesting.
That's very, you know, I, Ididn't really think that deep on
that, you know, I, I was likeannoyed that, you know, that
people were shutting down likezero hedge and shutting down any
discussions on, on where it camefrom.
But you've thought deeper, Ron,the fact that they allowed
international flights, but theyblocked internally means that

(31:12):
they knew that it was dangerous.
And, and you know what, anotherthing that they, that they did
that I thought was interestingbecause around January, cause
I'm like little bit paranoid.
I was in the us in like Januaryof 20, 20.
I knew was happening.
I wanted to home Depot, like,um, you know, cause I had my, my
brother-in-law passed away and Iwas in New Jersey and you know,
I'm like, you know, Carrie,you're number one worldwide

(31:34):
because you know, I travel forbusiness and everything else,
you know?
And um, you know, I knew I wasgoing to get the thing.
So, but I was in California andI was trying to buy mass and I
was trying to buy N 95 because Idid my research like a regular
mass doesn't really do Jack.
It might help a little bit.

I not happy the Chinese, they put out their
feelers and they had everysingle Chinese exchange student
in the entire world by all the[inaudible],

Tony Teora (32:00):
That's what I was going to say.
I went in there and I said,where are the end?
95 minutes?
And they're like, oh, we hadsome weird people come in.
And they bought, they boughtthem all up and I found the one
go.
So

It's not just, they sent his virus out.
They also discharge your abilityto fight it.

Tony Teora (32:16):
Yes.
So you couldn't get the N 95mask.
So I went out and I asked him,they said people are buying the
mask.
And then I did a little researchonline and I saw that it looked
like Chinese were buying them.
And I'm like, what the?
So I actually found one homeDepot that like was probably,
you know, far enough away topeople.
Haven't their, their SWAT teamhadn't gotten there.
And I bought like, you know, 20and 95 masks.

(32:37):
And that's what I was using.
And people at me like, I'm nuts,I'm wearing on, on the flights
using mass, you know, the N 95.
And I'm like, I ain't using theregular mask because they don't
really work.
And, and, and so, but theproblem is you can pass out in
the end 95.
So eventually, you know, I wasin Costco and they're looking at
me strange because I'm wearingan N 95 mask, you know, and I
took it off and I ended upcatching the virus, you know,
eventually, you know, but, um,you know, wow.

(33:00):
They bought all the masks.
So, so, you know, I mean, I knowwe've gotten off, off, off a
little bit here and that's okay.
Um, but this, but you know, youcan't even get that information.
Like why doesn't the public knowthis?
Why don't why, because we'redoing so much business with
China, right?
What the hell is?

No, because you're racist for talking about it.
Nobody wants to be a racist.
Well, one

Thing too, I think is important to
distinguish too, is like, it'snot like all of China's and on
it, you know, it's still, it'sstill just like a couple people
in the head up government, uh,who would be in on something
like that, who were all still inbed with a lot of other heads,

Look, look back to January 20, 20.
Uh, Trump had a China in thecorner and he, uh, he was trying
to end the, the, uh, theeconomic war that was going on.
And he got like China to signlike a truce paper or whatever.
We're trying to like, recognizethat they lost the economic war.
And then two weeks later, thevirus hits and things go crazy.

(33:59):
At the end of the day, Chinawins.
China won the war because look,look at their economy, their
companies booming.
And everybody else is like stillsitting in their homes, like
scared of this, this virus anddigital, the, the influences
like basically you down to zeronow.
So nobody's getting influence ofit.
Apparently everybody's gettingCOVID.

I think that's interesting too, though, with
like, I think there was somemisdiagnosis there, um, for
that, when you look at

Tony Teora (34:26):
The numbers between the years,

It has to do with the cycles that they ran on on
the PCR test, they know that ifthey run over 35 cycles, which
was common, was 40 cycles, andit's going to give me a pause,
false, false,

Tony Teora (34:41):
Positive.
So, so why the hell, what I wantto know is like, you know, okay,
so Ron, you know, thisinformation, I know a little
bit, I didn't know as much asyou knew about this, I've heard
about the PCI cycle PCR cycles,because I spoke to a, you know,
a, a person who worked in, uh,you know, in the biological
medical industry, you know,pharmaceutical industry in San
Diego, cause it's a big biotechtown.

(35:02):
And she told me the same thing.
She said, all this is, but shecan't talk about it.
Cause she doesn't want to lose ajob.
I'm like, what the you.
So everybody's so this is solike when it comes to our Aly
leaks, right?
Or where do we want to post?
It seems like, why is the, whyis Facebook, Google and all them
in cahoots to keep this stuff.
Now, now they're rewriting iskind of like 1984.

(35:22):
I read an article about one ofthese sites that was saying how
it wasn't Wu Han and anybody wasnuts.
And now they're re editing thearticle that they wrote years
ago, trying to sound like morelike unbiased.
I mean, people were getting shutdown.
Zero heads got shut off of likeTwitter because they had an
article about this.
But then now everybody's talkingabout it being well.
So related to cancer culture andnot being able to print out the

(35:44):
truth anymore.
I mean, you know who thesefact-checkers are like.
Checkers are more like, youknow, government conformity,
checkers.
Do you conform to our, you know,our position in government, if
not, I mean, United the world,the world is screwed.
United States I think isscrewed.
I mean, I mean, I think we'regoing to have a hard time
getting this alien leaksinformation out.

(36:05):
I mean, like, I think they'regoing to block it.

Well, uh, George Orwell, I'm pretty sure wrote
1984 as a warning, but it turnedinto a how to guide and, uh,
about, uh, about alien leaks.
Like it's gonna be D platform.
It's going to be attacked.
Look at Julian, its origin inthe he went through and his

(36:29):
website was taken down.
And when that didn't work, theattacks credibility, and when
that's in work, they just throwhim in jail.
And, uh, you, you remember a fewyears ago, like half the
internet shutdown, I think itwas in October, 2019 or maybe
2016, October, October, 2016.
I believe, uh, the entireinternet went down for like six

(36:52):
hours or something.
And that was like, not longafter joining us, Andrea was
like properly arrested.
So my, my theory on that is, uh,that he was his dead man switch.
That was, uh, supposed to go offat that time.
Maybe he was tortured and toldhim, yeah, it's going to go off
at this time in this method, butI can't stop it.

(37:14):
So what they do, they shut downthe entire internet for like
half a day.
And then, yeah.
And then if you think aboutlike, what would possibly be in
his insurance files?
Like he was throwing shade abouteverything.
He had all these leaks and stuffand he wasn't afraid to put
anything out there, but he had,I think his insurance files

(37:39):
where the alien in UFOdisclosure files, that's my
opinion.
And he sat up, he sat on itbecause that is the real power

Tony Teora (37:51):
Ron Leisha questions .
Then you have another server onyour, one of your sites where he
had like a mirrored site overthere.
I'm just kidding.
Oh no, no.
Just joking rod just jog.
He tweeted, he tweeted

About, uh, about my site a couple of times, uh, with
alien leaks.
So we're going to hopefully getstuff that's on

Tony Teora (38:12):
There.
I, I agree.
I think we will.
The issue quite well.
They're doing that now, thegovernment.
So what is this, what do youthink the government I'm going
to ask the whole team here?
Why do you think the governmentis now finally got like Biden
being asked about UFO's you gotshow saying, you know, that, you
know, like finally do they'veagreed that they got there.
They're looking at, I mean,look, we, I know working, you

(38:33):
know, working in wa well, notdisclosing anything, but I mean,
like I know from liketechnologies that the, the
military has, would, you know,phase the V Ray radar and all
this other and satellites andall kinds of crap, you know, the
alien technology is pretty good,all, but not all of it in my
opinion can be cloaked if youknow what I mean?
So it gets picked up on various,you know, radars and systems and

(38:58):
whatnot and visual and infraredand things of that nature.
I mean, the aliens are smart,but they haven't, some of them
aren't smart enough to hidecompletely in my opinion.
So my

Opinion on that is that it's, it's probably
internet conventional and maybethey're operating like the fifth
dimension or something.
And then they're just likepoking through tart dimension
play around and then there's

Tony Teora (39:21):
Yeah.
Why is it government talkingabout it now?
They don't need to, I mean,okay.
So

My, my opinion on that, sorry, I've got so many
things,

Tony Teora (39:29):
Please.
That's why you're the co-hostand that's why you're on the
dance show.
Go ahead.
Uh,

My, my opinion on that is, and it's just an
opinion because there was noproof, it's just a hypothesis at
this point, but, uh, thegovernment is, uh, letting us
know that they know that there'ssomething there that they don't
really know what it is.
Right.
But this is it's, it's a limitedhangout.

(39:58):
So they're giving us a littlebit of information to satiate
the curiosity, but they'rehiding the majority of the
information.
So they might tell you, oh,there's these tic-tac click
spaceships that fly at 20,000miles an hour.
And like can turn on a dime andfight through water and space
and air without slowing down.
But what they're, what they'renot telling you is about is the

(40:21):
five dimensional mothershipthat's hovering over the world
right now that you don't see,but is there no, what, what if
we get the documents that provesthe five dimensional mothership
is there, right.
And like looking at everythingall at once, like omnipresent,

(40:41):
that, that would freak somepeople out if it was proven.
And if there's documents aboutthat, and if we get those
documents, that would be prettyintense.
So, so

Tony Teora (40:52):
Haze, you, you you've been researching this for
how many years?

Um, geez.
I don't know.
I've been, I've been trying todo the C5 stuff since I was
five.
And

Tony Teora (41:04):
In between, in between, in between smoking weed
and singing in the rock and rollband and hanging out with your
pretty wife, you know, how many,how many years have you spent on
this?

Um, geez, probably most of my life I've been into,
um, aliens, archeology,humanity.

Tony Teora (41:21):
Um, you think, do you think Ron, do you think they
think Ron's right.
Think that they are only givingus a little bit or did I give
you well, of course.

So, so going back to Admiral Byrd, um, there's
been presence in an Arctica ofUFO, supposedly, and some of the
big WikiLeaks, um, points to, um, the USA and other countries,
possibly it could be at war withextra tourists,

Tony Teora (41:47):
Just talking about this UFO.

Yeah.
That's part, that's part of,some of the Wiki leaks.
Um, UFO files is, is thegovernment being involved in a
war with, um, at least one race,um, in Antarctica.
And there's been many storiesabout how there's races been
living there.
Um, and then there's also otherstories of there's multiple

(42:12):
races that come and go, and thensome are evil and some are good.
And throughout humanity andreligion is in, in ancient
history is another one of thethings I've always been into,
because I think there's a littlebit of truth in all religions,
um, pertaining to

Tony Teora (42:27):
Let me tell you something interesting about
religion, that I, a lot ofpeople probably don't know, and
this is going to sound reallycrazy, but that's why it's
called a show, crazy curiousminds.
But, um, I always, you know, itwas involved or interested, you
know, in this alien, um, topic.
So, um, people know IsaacNewton, right.
You know, he's the one thatalways showed the apple falling
from the tree.

(42:47):
And, you know, he studied thelaws of motion and, and whatnot.
But a lot of people don't knowis that Isaac Newton spent
probably close to half the restof his half of his life.
Right.
On religion.
Did you know that?
No.
Yeah.
I could read a little bit aboutthat.
It's been weird.
Well, when you think a scientistlike Isaac Newton and it's not

(43:09):
been published really most ofit, and I think there's a reason
for it.
He actually studied the ancient,um, you know, Hebrew texts of
the Bible and whatnot, and wasstudying that stuff.
He actually believes that a lotof that stuff that is going to
sound way off, but it's stillrelated to alien and alien
leaks.
I think it could be an alienleak actually, that he swore

(43:31):
that, that in the Bible that youcould get information about time
travel, that this book was notcreated like this, these texts
were created basically fromextra terrestrials.
So, but that's never really beenout.
So I think that anybodylistening or anybody, you know,
even you guys will be interestedlater on, you should just be,
I'm going to do a littleresearch if I found, I found

(43:52):
that to be, to be veryinteresting.
So, so Hayes, I, I agree withyou.
I, I, um, I and Ron too, I thinkthat there are only, I I'm I'm
I'm, I mean, it only makeslogical sense, right?
That they're only giving us whatlittle bit they want to give us,

Because there's because there's stories that,
that since, um, the Roswellcrash and after that, there's a
couple of other ones thathappened around the world where
we've gotten this technology anddone reverse engineering.
And that's where the wholepossibility of the fake alien
wars come in.
I mean, come on, think about ifwe're at war with another alien

(44:29):
race, would they really need tocome here?
Well, even if they're a hundredyears advanced a thousand
million, they were nefarious andthey had to various reasons.

Tony Teora (44:42):
Let's just say, I just say chat.
The best thing they

Could do is launch a virus.
Right?

Exactly.
That'd be the easiest thing theycould do, and they can do it
with drones.
Very simple.
They would not have to come hereand physically be involved with
us.
But, but, but there's the thingwhere, um, there were supposedly
, uh, WikiLeaks released someinformation approving that, uh,
there's technological races inan article.

(45:10):
And that's why there's apresence there from not only the
United States, but it wasGermany early on and Russia.
And, um, you and I can't tellyou that.
Yeah, no.

Yeah.
I was researching some stuff onAntarctica.
It's very interesting.
It's very interesting.
After, like you said, an Robertand decorate decorated, uh,

Tony Teora (45:30):
We know it, but, uh, uh, that John Kerry, I think
went there recently.
Um, yeah.
Oh yeah.

John Kerry, there there's been some prominent
people that have money that havegone there and there's, you
know, and I'm sure you've heardabout the pyramids

Tony Teora (45:43):
There and there's, uh, national, not recently, I'm
an ex astronaut went there also.
I forgot his name, but, um,

And also real, real quick, real quick, you know,
what most people don't realizeis Antarctica is larger than the
United States.
And they say, it's approximatelyabout as big as the United
States and Mexico, when you'relooking at it on a map you put
in Antarctica or United Statesor Antarctica, there's, there's
millions.
There's tons of space.
I mean, it's huge.

(46:11):
It's a lot bigger than peoplethink.
It's not just a little rocket atthe south pole.
Right.

Tony Teora (46:15):
So I think aliens, I , yeah,

Well, they got LA , they got lava lakes and stuff
like that up there absolutely

Underneath, which is Addie to the melting on one
end where the ice is gaining onthe other end of the continent.
And people think that it's justa small rock that's melting
there because they've been liedto and

Tony Teora (46:35):
Misled.
Well that that's the case.
You know, alien leaks is goingto be like in big trouble
because we're going to, I think,I think people are going to
start posting stuff.
I hope that we don't get in bigtrouble.
I hope that we're able to, um,you know, put, well, I want, I
want to, I think that's whyyou're on the show Hayes, but w

(46:58):
you know, my theory on this andI'm going, gonna, I'm going to
put a hypothesis on, you know,alien agenda.
And I want to talk to Ron, Ron.
Cause Ron seems to have a prettygood insight on a lot of this.
But if I had to say like, whyare people putting out this
information?
I think it's multifaceted.
I think they're just variousgroups of people in power who

(47:18):
want the information.
There are probably people likeSenator Reed, you know, who
wants the information and maybethey weren't getting it all.
So they want to put, you know,they want it to get the
information.
I think there are other peoplewere like saying, we got to put
it out to placate some of thesepoliticians, we're just going to
put out enough for them to play.
Kate.
Interesting.

(47:39):
Mine became unstable.
Huh?
Can you guys hear me?
Hey, Tony, are you there?

Yeah.
You're breaking up bad.
The aliens are cutting you offwall.
Okay.
I'm back.

Tony Teora (47:55):
Probably.
So it was going to say, yeah.
All right.
So getting, getting, getting,getting back.
I was going to say it like, youknow, Senator really get too
much.
Well, I won't say clarify whatthe Senator re read, for
example, Senator,

Can you please clarify?

Tony Teora (48:14):
I said, Senator read that and I say his name.
Correct.
Can you hear it?

You're breaking up there.

Tony Teora (48:22):
Wow.
I can't even, I can't even talknow.
All right.
Well, um, talking about that,well, a lot of talk about that.
Let me see if I say sevenminutes, you probably should
talk more about it.
Let me see if I can get re, resee if I can say it again.
Senator Reed, did you guys hearthat?
Good, fine.
So I think that there's multipleforces involved.

(48:44):
There's government forces, um,trying to get, trying to get
information, right.
And I think that there's themilitary and somebody's spy
groups that are trying to limitto them what they give these
guys.
They're just going to give themenough to placate them.
They're going to try to giveenough just to placate the
population.
Um, and they're going to hidemost, uh, most of the big.

(49:07):
And I think the big is, is that,that, that, you know, that
people say, oh, you know, youknow, they're gonna, they're
gonna use this to get money, orthey've got some old agenda.
I actually think they do have alot of these folks have ulterior
motives, but there's differentforces at play.
So the military industrialpolitical complex that whole and
security, whatever you want tocall it.

(49:27):
So if I go military industrialsecurity, political complex,
that's in place, that's, youknow, out there to can control
the media and that want themoney for the military.
I think some of these people aretheir pants and I, and here's
what they, they recoveredwithout a doubt, you know, um,
you know, crafted Roswell.
There's no question in my mindabout that.
They've also recovered deadbodies there.

(49:48):
Um, they've also at some pointin time recovered, live bodies,
but they weren't able to keepthem live for very long.
And they weren't able to do agreat job at communicating with
these guys because they'remostly telepathic.
And so they, you know, so theyhad a lot of problems and, and,
and the other problem is, isthat they it's an alien, it's an
alien, it's an alien culture.
And this is all hypothesis basedupon tons of books and readings
and things that I've done.

(50:09):
So, you know, I could becompletely wrong, but I also
suspect that the technologythey'd been reverse engineering,
engineering, it, you know, youcan hear this through Bob Lasar
and they've had a lot ofproblems.
You know, these somebodiesaliens, they made deals and they
got technology and they can'tcompletely figure out all the.
They could figure out a lot ofit.
But what I think has happened isit's, it's gotten over their
heads now.

(50:29):
Um, the aliens that they wereworking with died, um, there's
less and less that want to workwith the corrupt, you know,
planet earth and, and there'sother alien forces that they
have no clue what the hell isgoing on.
And they, and they won'tcommunicate with them.
So, so I think that, you know,people are and so they want
money for the space force.
I think that's one of thereasons why the space force was

(50:50):
created.
And I think they're going to tryto use a little bit of fear with
these new programs that they'regoing to talk about, and they're
going to disclose theinformation, they get money.
And, and is it going to advancethe human race?
It'll advance those in power toget more power.
And I don't think necessarilyit's going to advance the human
race.
I think the only way you canraise is going to advance is by,
is by a small segment of them.

(51:13):
Um, waking up, becoming morespiritual, getting rid of this,
cancel culture and gettingfreedom and Liberty back.
And I don't know, you know, I'mhoping, I'm hoping that this
alien leaks can wake people up,that people will say, holy,
they've been lying to us aboutthis.
What else did they lie to usabout?
You know, and people start towake up and make a better
government.
That's my hope.

(51:34):
I mean, I could be wrong, butthat's, you know, I don't know
what you guys think.
You know, you think alien, I'mwondering if analytics is going
to put me and Ron in jail, youknow, that's what I'm wondering.
Well, uh, here,

Let me explain something to you really quick
about that.
Okay.
On December three, 2010 Jolenasongs did a, to like a press
conference where he announcedthat he's going to publish files
on aliens.
And UFO's no way, no, no, no,wait, not done.

(52:04):
That was December three, 2010,right.
He announced it December eight,2010, he was arrested by the
British.
And that began his whole, like,uh, his whole like, uh,

Tony Teora (52:20):
Incarceration is whole life of incarcerated for
four

Days after he knows he's going to talk about UFO's
is when all that started.

Tony Teora (52:28):
So I want to know how much longer I got for fame.
So when is this alien looks likeit's going up in four days I'm
going to have,

I'm going to try to have it up today.
I was going to have it up lastnight, but, uh, Brendan, some
technical difficulties and thenCod sidetracks talking with some
legal counsel.
And then, uh,

Tony Teora (52:50):
So are you saying we only got like another four hours
of freedom?
Four days, four days, four days,four days.
They

Got, they got Julian in four days after his
announcement that he's going totalk about your phone.
So

Tony Teora (53:02):
We've got four days.
Jesus.
That's why I

Think those insurance files were about, well
, do we have any insurancefiles?

Tony Teora (53:17):
Hey, Hey, Hey Chad, can you fly out here and help me
if I get in trouble, I got you.
Okay.
Do what they did to like, what'shis name?
Nissan, you know, Carlos, don'tput me into like a little like
music box and fly me out ofhere.
Cause I'm getting nervous.
It'll be, well, no, one's goingto believe us.

(53:37):
Hopefully Ron, like, I mean, youknow, they'll read these, you
know, but you know, these UFOfiles and then, you know, who
knows, who knows here's, here'ssomething strange.
Maybe we're protected by aliens.
Think about that.
Maybe, maybe they want thisstuff out and anybody trying to
go after this is going to be inbig trouble.
Wouldn't that be funny?

(53:58):
I like that.
You like that?
Wouldn't that be funny?
Well, we'll see what happens,but it's quite

Ironic that the very last press conference I
ever did as a free man wastalking about, uh, alien
disclosure.

Tony Teora (54:13):
That is mind boggling.
That is mind-boggling.
Wow.
That is unbelievable.
Which also makes me a little bitnervous considering the, at four
days you're putting this thingout, Rhonda.
Well, you know, it's coming uptoday.
I try to get up.
Oh boy.
But, but it's gonna take themfour days to get here.
So you know what, I, I hope thealiens, like when, when they
send, like they sent a guy outthe flight, like we got to go

(54:34):
after Ron and Tony.
Right.
I hope they like, and the guygoes, you know, it's a safe
thing to do, you know, we'redealing with aliens, but don't
worry.
They're not going to bother you.
And as soon as the guy gets inhis car, like the power goes off
in the car, you know, you know,like, they're, they're going to
think that like, what the helldid Tony and Ron do they own
like, it's Tony stillcontrolling those military
satellites that he like Zappaswould one of those satellites,

You know?
Well, you know, after I heardthe news that the CIA has like
remote controls in the vehicles,uh, and they use that like to
kill people.
Uh, I bought a fully manual bycar as manual as it possibly
gets, like everything is, uh,it's like the eight, 10 warthogs
cars.
Like, uh, I don't have any, or Idon't have many computer systems

(55:18):
and certainly nothing that cancontrol it.
Right.
You know, survive an EMP then.
Uh, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure it's a midseventies vehicle.
You have to have, I've got areissue of mid seventies
vehicle.
So it's like, uh, they just hadan air bags too,

Tony Teora (55:40):
Dude.
That's so smart.
That is so smart.
But you know, I was going tosay, Ron, you know, Joe, you
know, we joke on the show to tryand have a little bit of humor
because you know, who wants it?
Who wants to die?
Like sad.
Right.
When they, when they shoot us atthe laser beam from the
satellite.
But what I was going to say is,you know,

Oh, you mean like in the, the last Christmas?

Tony Teora (55:57):
Yeah.
But like the, the, the, um,joking aside, there was a
reporter and I forgot what storyhe was working on, but like, his
car like drove like at a hundredmiles an hour and rammed into
like a tree and exploded, youknow?
Yeah.
And I could probably post, Imean, I make posts, I'm trying
to post on alien agenda that Ihave my site up.

(56:19):
It's not completely done yet.
So anybody looking at it, youknow, maybe by the, this
probably by the time this goeslive, but it still needs some
work.
But, um, there was a guy who,you know, people were
investigating this, did he seemlike he was trying to post off
on, I don't know, Iraq orsomething, but you know, you
know, if you think about it here, it's a really simple premise,
right?
If you're a spy agency or in amilitary, cause I've worked for

(56:42):
the military and this is notlike a secret, but if something
is theoretically possible, youhave people in think tank room
says, you know, they they're,they're the ends justify the
means and they don't give a.
They're like, well, you know, ifa car's got a computer, right?
Guess what?
We can hack into it.
And if we can control thesteering and we can control the
brakes, we can drive the car offthe bridge.

(57:03):
You know what I mean?
And or off the road or into atree or, you know, or we can
overheat the engine, it'llexplode.
And if you've got like Teslabatteries that are like, you
know, haven't been changing andget your software update, maybe
the batteries will explode andkill you in the car.
You know, you know what I mean?
I mean, so, so you know, this isI can guarantee you it's there
it's because once again, we'renot spiritual beings.

(57:26):
You know, we're not ethical, youknow, ends justify the means.
So, you know, you really want togive people like the, you think
the aliens really want, youknow, any decent alien, the only
aliens that are given technologyto America or any country are
the ones that are up that youcan't trust.
So guess what happens whenyou're dealing with up aliens,
you can't trust, they do upstuff that you can't trust them.
Then you're like, holy, we'vegot to disclose this to
everybody.
We need a space for us.

(57:47):
And we got a war against aliens.
We shouldn't have been dealingwith

The funny thing about us.
Tony, do you think there'smultiple factions currently?
For

Sure.
For sure.
For sure.
Definitely

No doubt.
Some more nefarious than others.
Some that are there obviouslytoo trusting and gullible some
benevolence.
Absolutely.
Yeah.

Tony Teora (58:13):
And some that are too smart to have anything to do
with planet earth.
So, you know, seriously, I thinkthere, I think in the universe,
there, there is mostly becauseit's evolution, right?
If you look at like, like lakesthroughout planet earth, you'll
see that evolution works verysimilar to even, there'll be a
lake hasn't been attached toanother lake.
The fish grow very similar.

(58:34):
They're not the same exact fish.
You have FUBU fish here that Idon't want to eat.
Cause they have neurotoxins inthem, but usually taste pretty
good.
But you run the risk of dying.
Um, you've got, you know, likein New Jersey, you've got blue
fish and, you know, salmonthroughout the world, Fisher
fish all over all over earth,but they're, they've all, you
know, I think differently.
I don't think they were from thesame, you know, group, you know,

(58:56):
but, and I also believe thataliens, um, in order to travel,
you know, to earth and whatnot,whether it be interdimensional
travel or whether it be, um, youknow, creating a warm hole or,
or just using a device, that'sclose to the speed of light and
they just waste all that timecoming here.
I mean, it doesn't take a lot oftime, but when they go home,
millions of years will pass orwhatever, you know, there are
different levels of technology.

(59:16):
And, and I think there aredifferent levels of aliens.
And I think that the couple ofrules, a couple of simple rules,
they're usually, probably not sonefarious that they, if they
were, they would have wipedthemselves out or they be at
constant war and that'sunstable, you know, it's kinda
like having a piece of garbagein the road.
You know, you drive people driveover it for a while, but it's
not stable to have that garbagein the middle of the road.

(59:37):
It eventually gets blown to theside of the rope.
And that's how I think, um,alien intelligence works.
There's some that are corruptand evil.
Like humanity is right now, inmy opinion, we're like the
garbage in the middle of theroad.
And if we're not careful, we'rejust going to get run over and
destroyed, you know, or we'regoing to have to move to the
side, you know, or we're goingto have to become part of that
road and become more harmonious,you know, with the galaxy.

(59:58):
And we're just not there yet.
So if we were only dealing, it'slike who you are, who your
friends are.
So humanity is not in myopinion, very spiritual.
So therefore it only, it's onlydealing with really low level
non-spiritual entities and theones that are spiritual probably
sound like super aliens.
They don't want to deal.
And there was an interestingthing that I read and I don't
know if it's true, but it's veryinteresting.
1954, they say that Eisenhower,um, met, we were able to meet

(01:00:23):
with like two with a group ofaliens.
And, um, it was said that thatgroup said to him that we would
like to help you guys out.
Um, we want to have likecommunication and, and whatnot
and, and work together.
But the military was there andthey're like, wow, you got
spaceships.
You know, you can fly intogalactically.

(01:00:45):
And they're like, yeah, they'relike, we want the tech.
We would like to start lookingat that technology.
Can you give us technology?
And we'll give you like, youknow, some bases on earth or
whatever, and nail and to likegive us basis on earth, you
know, for technology, you know,like they didn't.
So they'll like, like, well,we'll give you technology, but
we, we got a process for thatwould your type of species.

(01:01:06):
And they're like, oh cool.
Can we sign the processdocuments?
You know, no, like, yeah, yougotta go through, we got to go
through these few steps and thenwe'll give you the technology.
And I'm like, oh, okay.
Um, what's the quickest we canget these steps done.
They're like, well, according toour scientists, humanity is
going to take about, well, uh,two, 300 years.
And they're like, what?
We gotta wait two, 300 years toget the technology.
And they're like, yeah, you guysare too up.

(01:01:28):
And not in those exact words,you're going to have to like,
prove

Chad McKinney (01:01:31):
To yourself.
I'm sorry.

Tony Teora (01:01:36):
Oh yeah.
Well, I'm translating for youguys.
You know, I'm just trying, I'mjust trying to translate, but
you know, but you know, whatthey didn't say was that they
were dealing with these littlegrays from Roswell and they had
some technology from there,whether it was from the stuff
and I'm like, it.
We don't need it.
We're gonna, we're gonna, we'regonna, we're going to get the
technology from somebody else orsome other way.
And they're like, well, you guysshouldn't really be working on

(01:01:58):
technologies.
We really working on yourspiritual development, but like,
get the outta here.
You hippie hippie aliens willshoot you.
You know, if you don't get outof here.

Ron Watkins (01:02:08):
Well, speaking, speaking about shooting aliens.
So, you know, the video that,the videos that the Pentagon is
putting out right, where they'relike tracking these tic-tac is
tic-tac ships here in San Diego.
That was right off the bat.
We're chatting.
Well, the military is getting,uh, they're getting missile,
like lock ons, or they'regetting a lock on with that.

(01:02:31):
Cause they're using the weaponssystems to, to follow these
ships.
Why, why aren't they shooting amissile?
I think once they lock onthey're making maneuvers that
just blow their minds even more.
I mean, yeah.
So what else go ahead Hayes.

(01:02:51):
Remember the, um, the war of LosAngeles or whatever it was and
where, where there was a UFOsighting, uh, drew world war two
.
I think it was, and we had SantaMonica or wherever it was in
near LA.
They shot so many weapons atthis UFO with the bright lights

(01:03:13):
on everything they felt werebeing invaded by Japan or
whatever.
Um, and it caused huge damage.
And then they tried to brushunderneath the rug later on.
Um, we, we have stuff that candamage their vehicles.
Honestly.
I, I think it's a waste of timetrying to use modern, you know,
our chillers.

(01:03:34):
So that means they've tried itand failed.

I got, I got, I got, I got a better answer.

No, let's try it go.
You go first please.
No, if you, if you, uh, are youfamiliar with deep thoughts?
The Jack Andy thing, uh, on SNLskit, it talk about the
spirituality and everything.
It just reminded me of, uh,jokey had where he said, it's

(01:04:00):
just says, um, aliens might notbe ready to give us the secrets
to the universe because theythink we're not ready, but maybe
they'll change their tune aftera little torture.

Well, that's true.
I'm going to, I'm going to tellyou why, why they stopped
shooting at, um, well, Ishouldn't say stop, but let, I'm
gonna tell you why, what I thinkfrom what I, what I read.
And this is where speculation,the reason why you asked whether
they, why didn't they, they did,they have shot at these UFO's

(01:04:37):
and it's not just the UnitedStates.
Russia.
I think Iran and multiplecountries have shot at these
UFO's.
And guess what happened in mostcases?
Nothing.
Well, the weapons shut down.
No, in some cases it was worsethan nothing.
The plane that was shooting atthem sometimes disappeared

All really and sometimes,

And hold on, hold on.
Not only did they disappear,sometimes they blew up.
Okay.
And I'm going to tell you, I'mgoing to tell you something it's
that I haven't never really toldanybody, and I'm going to
mention this and it's not,there's no security clearance
related to this.
I used to teach computer scienceon the military.
Okay.

(01:05:20):
And I, I, um, I also did someother consulting, but, but at
the time I was doing, you know,literally I was really honestly
only teaching computer scienceand I was out on the military
ship and I had friends that werein, you know, you know, they,
they have these rooms that, youknow, do phase the Ray Raider
and all this other war rooms.
And, um, and I've, you know, wehad, we had, we had CNN on the

(01:05:45):
ship and we had, we were doinglike military exercises and two
planes.
And I got multipleverifications.
As two planes went out to dosome maneuvers.
They were flying together.
And one like swerved right?
In one like swerve left.
Now I can't say that it was aUFO or what happened at the

(01:06:06):
time, because I couldn't get theinformation, but something
happened.
And that plane literallydisappeared from radio radar.
Okay.
We went out for days looking forthat airplane for damage,

(01:06:28):
because they assumed that theradar either screwed up or the
plane blew up because, you know,we need to disappear from radar
using means that the particlesare too small to be seen on a
radar.
I mean, usually radar can pickup things like a plane blowing
up, you know, cause usually it'sparticles, it looks like birds
or whatever.
I'm not a radar expert, but, butI did talk to radar experts.
So the, but the plane justactually just disappeared.

(01:06:48):
And we spent

When they, when they crash it, after a certain
elevation will come on.
Right.

But, but I mean, like it disappeared at a certain
altitude.
It didn't just like go down anddisappear.
It just like was there and thengone, gone light.
Like it like went into a blackhole.
So we searched for days.
We never found the plane and um,CNN was there for something.
And I remember someone talkingabout, yeah.

(01:07:15):
And I remember somebody talkingabout something and um, I
remember, you know, peoplesaying they can't really talk
about what happened.
And I, you know, I kept my mouthshut, you know, cause I had some
friends there and I think theyreport, I feel sorry for the
family.
I really do.
They reported that there was anaccident and the pilot, you
know, was a hero cause he wasdoing some mission or whatever.

(01:07:36):
But when I, when I saw that, Isaid, holy.
You know, we have planes thatjust disappear, alpha radar.
And we have no evidence, nonothing, no oil slick, no, no
nothing.
Okay.
So that, so adding that to someother information that I got is
that, you know, that we haveshot at alien, you know, craft

(01:07:59):
and a lot of times the resultsaren't very good.
And you know, so thereforethere's an actual order.
I think not the shoot afterUFO's to not engage alien craft,

You can spend it that way for at least 20 years
or more now.

Right.
So, so, so I think that we can,if we can get some stuff on
alien leaks about the confirm,something like that, Ron, I
think that would be big.
So, but I think that's justgoing to scare people.
So this is why I think like thatwhole Brookie support that Chad
was talking to Chad aboutearlier that, you know, I think
people are ready, but I thinkthe United States now is like,
you know, they're just tryingto, they're trying to, like, as

(01:08:37):
you said, Ron, just give alittle bit information, placate
the population, the people whoreally know what's going on are
definitely not going to want toput out what the hell is going
on.
And I think that, you know, youand I are probably gonna get a
lot of documentation and I thinkwe can be part of the wakening
of society, but I don't wantlike, like, like I said earlier
about the anti-gravity stuff, Idon't know if I want to post
anti-gravity stuff.
I don't think we're ready foranti-gravity.

(01:08:59):
So

If you look at two, two, I like you're saying
on this where people being readyis very interesting.
The timing of the leaksrecently, you know, for the
first ones where they so-calledadmitted that the, and it got
admitted that there's actualleaks and they didn't know what
these objects were and all thatkind of stuff.
Everybody just came out of a, alockdown for over a year.

(01:09:21):
A lot of people lost friends,family, things of that nature.
They had their entire worldcompletely shifted upside down
and then got kicked in the buttas it is.
They got dropped on their head.
Like there, every buddy reallyjust had the rural hand to them
and so many different ways, youknow, like it was a complete
restructure of their inner, aninterpersonal relationships

(01:09:44):
completely across the board anda spectrum of all human
function.
And so everybody is kind of nowjust like, oh, I can't wait to
get back to normal or this isthe new normal or things like
that.
So people being introduced thiswhole new world now it's such a
rapid development and shift andperspective that like people

(01:10:06):
aren't as solidified in whatthey view have a, as a worldview
at this point.
So there's good and bad to thatone.
The good is people may be moreopen to it because they don't
know what the hell to thinkanymore at this point.
Um, and then the other side ofit is though, some people just
can't take anymore and thatmight, we like not weed out.

(01:10:27):
Cause I don't think that's theright expression, but that might
push some people over the edge.
So it's important for otherpeople to have their own mental
health practices as well, towhere they can stay at peace and
remain grounded with themselves.
So whatever comes at them,whether it be aliens or another
pandemic or, uh, whatever it is,um, good or bad that they're

(01:10:48):
able to remain present in theirown lives to make sure they
don't just fall into the trap ofwhat could happen.
Otherwise,

Ron walk-ins puts out his WikiLeaks or I guess
that was a, that was asubliminal slip here.
It is alien leaks or website.
Right.
And all these people startfreaking out.
Your business is going to grow.
Isn't it.
They're going to come to you andsay, Chad, please, could you
give us some help us?

Is that what's going to happen?
You're going to get morebusiness.
I don't know, man.
I, you know, I, I just hopepeople find it for themselves,
man.
However, however they seek itout MRI with it, you know,

What would you do?
Well know I'm not trying to betoo funny here, but what would
you do if you had somebody comeinto your place and says, I've
been watching this stuff on, youknow, alien leaks.org and alien
agenda.org.
I've got all these pictures andoh my God, there's aliens out
there and they're working onspaceships and we've got
anti-gravity and they'reinterdimensional and there's
multiple beings.
And you know, and I'm having ahard time dealing with religion,

(01:11:50):
you know?
Um, how are you going to helphim as the, is Dr.
McKinney, would your Dr.
McKinney said, Hey, Dr.
McKinney, could you please helpme out?
What are you going to,

What are you going to do?
Well, first I won't be licensedeven after I'm doctor, but like,
why not?
Well, I just, uh, I had nointerest in it, uh, after the
marriage family, child therapydegree, I just, I, I prefer like
the coaching route.
Cause I like the flexibility ofit.
Firstly, by will you, well,

You helped me if I can't handle it anymore, will
you help me at least?
Could you, at least of at leastgo to you privately and say,
Chad, um, Ron, put some stuffout.
Really blew my mind.
I can't take it anymore.
I mean, I just can't take thisanymore.
Could you help me out?
I always got you covered Tony,but I would, I would say

Honestly to any person that counts to me, like
that would just be okay, howdoes that affect you right now?
What I'm worried about tomorrow?
I'm worried about this and nowwhat did they do that, you know?
Okay.
But at this moment, right now,does anybody or anything have
control of you and just bringpeople back to their breath.
Once we breathe, we can connectto that internal piece.

(01:12:55):
And from there we can make amore aligned decision this in
our higher interests, like evenlike Navy seals, for example,
right?
Like they engage in boxbreathing, uh, which would be
there's different variations ofit.
You can change the inhalation,count, excalation, count, things
like that and the holes.
But you know, an in breath forfour seconds, one, two, three,

(01:13:15):
four, you hold for four secondsand then you exhale for four
seconds, hold for four secondsand you could change it a
multitude of ways.
But what that does is it engagesthe sympathetic and
parasympathetic nervous system.
So people were ready for fightor flight at that point, but
they can make actionabledecisions

When Ron gets like some real evidence.
And I get like an alien that I'mgoing to bring to you who can't
take it out on the planet.
I'm going to say, look, I gotthis little alien that can't
take living here.
One's got this alien, take thealien to you.
And you can like try to tell thealien how to survive on planet
earth.
Is that possible,

Man, I'll just, I'll give'em, I'll give them
$5,000 coins for a trip out ofhere.

So, so haze once, once, once this alien leaks goes
up and it, and disclosure isfinally done, I think I actually
think, and joking aside, I thinkalien X has the potential, as
long as we're not stuck in jailwith joined us orange, drinking
the same orange juice, um, youknow, that, um, that this could
really be a site that couldactually finally irrefutably put

(01:14:19):
out disclosure.
So for someone like you, who'sbeen into UFO's and aliens and
all this research for all theseyears Hayes, if you got
irrefutable evidence like analien leaks and the government
said, okay, we give up, youknow, who've been involved for,
you know, 60, 70 years in hisalien.
We just don't know what to doanymore.
And we're scared.
And we don't, you know, we'retrying to get money and w we
don't know what aliens to dealwould in, you know, we made some

(01:14:42):
big mistakes, you know, howwould it affect you?
You know, as a person who's allthese years is, is you're gonna
be like, oh, I knew all thisalready.
And is it gonna affect you?
Hey, so I'm just curious,

Uh, of course it will affect me.
I mean, I be only willing to bea part of it and not to say, I
told you so, but it gives you afeeling of a lot of people,
including the government thatwere naysayers and they mocked
people and they made fun of them, um, for even mentioning UFO's
in the past, and then they turnaround and now they're starting

(01:15:17):
to admit it, that they'reseasoned.
They see that there, they canexplain.
And I think, uh, Ron's timing onthis site.
I think couldn't be better,especially with the fact that
during the COVID with so manypeople being at home, or people
went outside for a walk, morepeople looked up in the sky,
which they normally don't.

(01:15:37):
And I believe I read somewherethat UFO sightings went up
around 50 some odd percent sincethe COVID, because people are
actually taking the time to lookat the stars, you know, go look
at the sky and not be so wrappedup in their world and then come
home and just watch TV untilthey zone out.

So, so Ron, I want to ask you a question on this
show, you know, and I don't meanit to be too sensitive, but, um,
you know, I had just put up, youknow, our podcast, you know, and
I put your name on there andsomebody, I don't know who it
was told me that like, you know,they saw complainant, maybe it
was Chad or somebody thatsomebody said, oh, you know,
he's lying about being Q orwhatever.

(01:16:20):
Do you think that, um, you know,your previous role as an
administrator for, I was eightChan and now, you know, a
coon.top or whatever, you know,managing these other sites, do
you think that's going to be,and your background, you know,
and do in administrative and youyou've got like tons of falls
and we were going to have thisas a cancer culture, but I mean,

(01:16:41):
you know, Trump, we quoted, youknow, stuff that you've actually
posted on Twitter.
Um, you've had, you've gotbanned, I guess, from Twitter,
Facebook, I don't know.
I mean, I mean, you had tons offollowers, but I know you still
have followers on telegram andother places.
I mean, do you think that yourprevious, you know, employment
or, you know, jobs and interestsis going to help hurt or

(01:17:05):
neither, you know, related toAlex?
And I, you know, I'm not tryingto put you on the spot.
I think people are going to say,you know, this guy was involved
with eight Chan and that wholequeue, and I mean, you're on HBO
series, you know, into thestorm.
Just curious what your thoughtsare related to from the
previous, you know, yourprevious media, you know, out in

(01:17:26):
the media versus what would,what you're doing and what we're
doing now.

All right.
Well, first off, uh, I wasn't,uh, employed in January.
That was just, it's just a hobbyof mine.
Okay.
And, uh, the, the HBO specialwas, uh, it was a kind of a way
to discredit myself on purpose.
Right.
And there is a strategic, like apurpose behind that.

(01:17:55):
And I'm not, I'm not, I'm notgoing to go too much into detail
on that here, but right.
That was on purpose.
And I was very careful with theinformation I gave the director.
And, uh, essentially everythingthat he put in that documentary,
uh, was something I planned outto be put in there, except for
like one part where he had me oncamera.

(01:18:16):
But, uh, that's neither here northere.
I don't really mind inhindsight, but I didn't plan for
that to be in there, but therest was basically all planned
out.
And, uh, I have no qualms withthe way that he presents me,
because you know, when withrhetoric, there's like three, uh
, major, uh, uh, branches ofrhetoric.

(01:18:40):
There's like, uh, there there'sone that deals with credibility.
And then there's one that dealwith swift logic.
I forget the names now, SOS,Paphos.
And

You sound like you're reading Plato and
Aristotle.
Now it sounds, uh, yeah, goahead.

Yeah.
So there's a third, uh, I forgetwhat it's called now, but, uh,
essentially is what I'm doing is, uh, I destroy my personal
credibility.
It's a type of ego death, right.
And if you destroy your ego andyou have no credibility, but
your statements are full oflogic and very powerful

(01:19:23):
statements, then people willfocus on the statement instead
of focusing on you as a person.
Right.
So, so I I'm, I'm okay with themcalling me a clown or, or, uh,
making fun of me that I'mcompletely fine with that
because it, it makes the thingsI say even stronger.

So I just looked it up because I've heard this
before, but I don't rememberthis, but yeah, it was from
Aristotle.
There is the FO's path, hostsand logos are the three modes of
persuasion

Yeah.
And logos.
And, uh, I, I, uh, I sacrificedmy ethos to maximize my logos.
Well, you know, nice.

I agree with that because basically FO's is an
appeal to ethics.
Is it, you know, veal byauthority Patheos is emotion and
logos is logic.
So I've always liked Spock onstar Trek.
You know what I mean?
He was always the logical onebecause, you know, logic, I
mean, people, if you live byyour, just by your emotions and
appealing to authority, I mean,those people can get you in big

(01:20:32):
trouble, you know, but if youappeal to people's logic.
So I think, I think I know yougo on, so you basically kind of
saying that, all right.
So, so the, this other stuff,you know, may, may give you some
fan base or, or people are gonnaknow you, but I don't think it
should take away fromcredibility.
Because I looked at when wetalked about the, and, you know,

(01:20:53):
cause I was always into sciencefiction, I want to do alien, you
know, agenda.
And you're like, yeah, let's getsome, you want to do leaks.
And you're telling me that theseideas you had and you decided to
finally do it.
And I'm like, it's very logical.
It is very logical.
I mean that people should beable to send information.
If it's out there, what's goingto come in and if it's not out
there, it's not going to comein.
Um, basically fishing.

(01:21:13):
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, um, did we catch

The big tuna or are we going to get

Yeah.
And I just don't want to, I justdon't want to be in the sardine.
Can, would you one day zip itup?
You know, we got four days.
Yeah.
I got four days.
So I'm going to, I got this onebottle of really expensive
whiskey that I was going to sayfrom my son joins like
professional soccer, but I thinkI might just drink it early and
write him a letter 55 hours.

(01:21:45):
Okay.
Thanks.
I'm really glad I got involvedwith these, with these guys.
I should have been, but my momsaid always be careful who you
hang out with, you know?
So, um, okay.
Well, we've done quite a bit onthis show already.
Is there anything, you know, wwe can continue on, but is there

(01:22:07):
anything, you know, Ron or Hayesor Chad, you know, I probably
spoke too much on the show asusual.
Um, I told my son the other day,I said, you talk to much.
And he looks at me and he goes,dad, don't you ever tell me
that?
I was like.
He's like, he's like, and that'sa curse word.

(01:22:29):
And that's supposed to say.
And I said, I said, it's just aword.
Well, you say I can't use it atschool.
I say he can't.
All right.
So, um, so anything, um, Ron,anything that you are, let me
start with, we start with Chadand then go to Hayes and then
you and Ron.
So, um, Chad, anything that youwanted to say before we end the

(01:22:51):
show, any topic related to alienleaks or cancer culture or
anything that you want to saybefore we end this podcast?

And I almost, I kinda like last time we spoke is
really just to the listeners outthere, again, find your own
truth and do the best you can todiscern the information that's
being presented to you and, orthe information you're seeking
out and try to figure out yourown truth.

(01:23:20):
You know, a lot of informationis presented with the agenda
agenda behind it.
So, um, find out what resonatesand what feels best.
And, you know, sometimes there'sthings that are uncomfortable
and we need to face thatuncomfort in order to, um, grow.
And so, you know, learn to becomfortable in your

(01:23:40):
uncomfortableness.
So you can face with what mayspawn for their growth, but
yeah, just find your own truth

And then go to go to the San Diego, um, you know,
airports and by chats book oronline, or go online to find his
book.
The name is what, again,

Thank you for that detail.
I appreciate heaven heaven inthe now a journey through mind,
body, and soul.

Wow.
Um, I'm going to call you Dr.
McKinney, even though youhaven't got your doctor, Dr.
McKenney, cause you're mydoctor.
You're my personal doctor.
So thank you.
Thank you for joining thisepisode.
Appreciate it.
And I'm hazy.
Are you still there?
Are you shipping?
I'm still here.
I know

We didn't dive really deep into the cancel
culture.
Um, but I just want people, ifyou're not familiar with it,
you're even remotely interestedon why so many things are being
canceled.
Why so many things are not ableto be debated or questioned in
this day and age stomping figurethe big players, bill gates,

(01:24:42):
mark Zuckerberg.
And if you haven't seen it goback and look at and pay
attention to the way that theyrespond and look at the emotions
in their body and their faceswhen they were taken to court,
bill gates for a monopoly, markZuckerberg for hand-tight, um,
competitive tennis and, um,several other string of things.

(01:25:06):
Um, and wonder why all of asudden they're big players in
the game.
Well, they're, they're in thegovernment's pockets and they're
behind a lot of this cancel

Culture.
You know, there there'll be, Idon't think they're the ones
doing it.
I think it's the governmentforcing them to do it, to be
honest.

Hey exactly.
And that's what I'm seeing younotice that they weren't big
players until they were taken tocourt court monopoly.
That makes sense.
And then within a year or two,suddenly they're the main
players in all of this stuff.
That's just something to lookinto.

Interesting.
I never, never thought of that,that way.
Interesting.
Um, I always, you know, Ilistened to bill gates.
He says, I now need any morethan 64 KRM on my computer.
And I was, well, what is one ofmine that computers would never
work?

Hey,

His computer guy, he said, you never need more than
64 KRM.
And, um, that was, I was alwayswondering why none of my phones
nothing would work anymorebecause I limited the 64 K oh
well, anyhow, um,

Alien leaks is going to run off.

Well, Ron, Ron thinks I'm not things I said, I
shouldn't listen to bill gates.
He's going to put more memory inhis systems.
Okay.
It's okay.
It's okay.
Even people, even smart folksmake mistakes.
I

Give them to them.
[inaudible] was pretty good backin the day.
It actually was.
That was a huge step up for usas was going from four to 16
megabytes,

Bill gates.
If you're listening, I'm onlyjoking.
I actually re think you're avery smart computer guy and I
don't want you giving me a badvaccine.
So I'm sorry if I said anythingbad about, um, Ron, um,
anything, anything you want tosay about, or yeah, go for it.
Take your time.
So

If you're a scientist researcher in
communications with aliens orotherwise have access to
original, never before seendocuments, uh, regarding alien
technology, biology orcommunications, then please
consider, uh, going to alienleaks.org and, uh, reading the
submit documents page.

(01:27:18):
And then you can, uh, go thereto get some information on how
to protect yourself while yousubmit documents daily Dalian
links.

Wow.
Well, I don't, I don't, youknow, I don't have much to end
with, I th I want to say thankyou to all you guys.
I think that this alien leaks isgoing to be, I have a suspicion
that this thing is going to bebig.
I just hope that we can changethe world for the better.
And, uh, that's my goal.
And I'm looking forward toworking with you, Ron, on that
as you get information andanalyzing the information, I

(01:27:48):
think it'll be fun.
Cause it's, you know, this isscience fiction turned into the
science reality.
So, so I love it.
So I want to thank you guys allfor joining this episode, you
know, of alien agenda and, um,maybe you guys will be on in the
future.
Me and Ron will be doing thesethings probably like at least
twice a month.
So thanks everyone.
Thanks for joining alien agenda.
And you guys all have a greatday.

(01:28:09):
Thanks.
You do too.

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