September 11, 2024 ā¢ 33 mins
Curious about the mysterious monoliths that have been popping up worldwide? On this episode of Alien Talk Podcast, we promise to unravel the enigma behind these reflective structures that first appeared in Utah in November 2020 and have since captivated global attention. Are these monoliths simply artistic endeavors or do they hint at something more perplexing? Join us as we dissect the materials, construction, and possible inspirations from Stanley Kubrick's film rendition of Arthur C. Clarke's 2001: A Space Odessey. We'll also discuss the implications of their sudden appearances and equally swift disappearances.
A fascinating perspective is given regarding the ancient wonder of Stonehenge with the theories surrounding Stonehenge's construction and offer a compelling comparison between modern monoliths and ancient structures, highlighting the enduring mystery and ingenuity behind these monumental feats. We also ponder the potential existence of lost technologies that may have enabled such impressive constructions without the aid of modern machinery.
Finally, we touch on the broader implications of the monolith phenomenon, likening it to the intriguing patterns of crop circles. What drives the creators of these enigmatic structures? Are they purely human-made, or is there a chance they are something beyond our understanding? We'll discuss the logistical challenges of placing these monoliths in remote locations, as well as the artistic and symbolic meanings they may convey, and reflect on the motivations behind their creation.Ā
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everybody, thank you for joining us on
Alien Talk Podcast.
This is the show where wediscuss all things about aliens
and UFOs and, as always, wherewe push the limits of our
understanding.
Joe Landry and Nori Oldfordhere once again to seek out the
truth and find the factspertaining to the highly
discussed issues aboutextraterrestrial life and the
existence of UFOs.
So tonight we want to spendsome time talking about
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monoliths, particularly the onesthat have been in some news
stories in recent years.
They have been popularly calledthe appearing, disappearing
monoliths.
Oddly enough, despite the wordmonolith meaning one stone,
these ones are not made of stone.
Instead, they're made of metal,stainless steel or aluminum.
Mere shafts of well-formed.
They're made of metal,stainless steel or aluminum,
mirror shafts of well-formed andwell-finished metal, so that
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they are clearly not naturalfeatures.
They were made somewhere andthen moved into place, usually
in spots that are off the beatenpath, some even quite remote.
So could these things be thework of a higher intelligence,
possibly beyond our world, orare they simply the work of
human creativity?
And with that trickery, whoeverput them there, we have to
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wonder what is their purpose.
So stay tuned, we'll be back inone minute.
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Speaker 1 (02:21):
So, Lori, I guess we should begin the show with a
welcome back from your voyage.
You and your wife took a nicelong and relaxing cruise
throughout Europe and made astop in England, Isn't that
right?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
That is right.
My wife and I celebrated our30th wedding anniversary in Val
Renewal on the Norwegian Dawncruise ship.
We went around the BritishIsles.
It was a fascinating trip andwe absolutely loved it.
And also my wife agreed tocommit to me for another 30
years, so I think she reallyloves me.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Another 30 years.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, but of course I was also lucky enough to get
the chance to visit Stonehengewhile I was on the trip and that
was quite an experience, anamazing place to see.
I'm really glad I got to see it.
I did not want to miss going tothat place.
For sure it had to be done.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, well, we're glad to have you guys back safe
and sound, and we went ahead andput some of those photos that
you took over there on ourwebsite and Facebook page, and
it truly does look like afascinating place.
Scholars now believe thatStonehenge is older than the
Giza pyramids and even olderthan the very existence of the
Egyptian civilization.
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The theory is that it was meantto serve as an astronomical
observatory and calendar thathelped the ancient inhabitants
track time and seasons, and apopular belief is that it was
meant to serve as anastronomical observatory and
calendar that helped the ancientinhabitants track time and
seasons, and a popular belief isthat the Druids erected it,
although that has not beenverified through any historical
evidence.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah, it was first erected around 5,000 years ago,
about 3,000 BC, and it's thoughtto have been a burial ground at
first, and this is what theyexplain to you when you go visit
it there and they have thisvery large screen where they lay
out the entire history of itand the large stones were put in
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place sometime after that andover the course of thousands of
years.
You know, others have added,you know so to make it into the
timekeeping observatory that iteventually became.
And if you look at the stonesnow, there's certain areas where
it's like open and you can seewood that you know we have put
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in there to.
You know, try and keep thestones upright, to try and keep
the stones upright.
But the new theory is now is howthe stones got there?
Is that they were transportedby the sea, and the thing is the
sea coast is like 180 milesaway and it's like a two-hour
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car ride going at 75 miles perhour.
So imagine quarreling stones,some of which were as heavy as a
bus, and placed onto what boatsmade of reeds or even out of
wood Weren't metal ships backthen?
The smallest stone, which areknown as the blue stones, are as
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heavy as a sedan or a pickuptruck and as soon as you walk
through the visitor center yousee a stone laying on its side,
on these wooden logs as rollers,and the whole plains there are
like hills and stuff for as faras the eye can see and it would
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have taken a tremendousworkforce to accomplish, you
know, getting those stones allthe way over those hilly plains.
So the question is why did theypick that spot, that particular
spot, and why were those rocksfrom almost 200 miles away?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Like many other wonders from the ancient past,
it does make you wonder aboutthe idea of maybe lost
technology well, yeah, I mean,just the idea of moving
something that big, even 10 feet, uh, it sounds monumental
tasking of itself.
I mean, uh, can you imaginejust trying to move something
like that across your backyardusing log rollers, wood rollers?
So here we have this thingbeing rolled on wood logs from
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your house all the way up toPhoenix.
Definitely not an easyundertaking, and you'd have to
wonder what would motivatesomebody to do that.
It wouldn't take a lot tomotivate me to move it just a
few feet to my backyard.
And some, may many, people notknow this, but there is an
age-old myth, an age-old taleabout how Merlin the magician
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used some sort of power to movethose stones in the place.
Of course, that story usuallygets brushed aside, but indeed
the lore about the place hascrossed its path with the
Arthurian legends.
So it seems that even theancient people way back then
wondered, just as we do, howthose stones got there.
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There seems to be no record inthe history of the Britons and
the Celts as to how and whenStonehenge was built, as to how
and when Stonehenge was built,as opposed to, say, egypt and
Mesoamerica, where at least wehave names associated with the
pyramids there, such as Khufuand Quetzalcoatl.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yeah, and we find that in Egypt there is an
example of a magical narrative.
There actually is a record ofthat.
It was discovered in 2013 on apapyrus dating to about the 5th
century BC near Saqqara.
That tells how priests of thegod Thoth had moved the stones
of the Great Pyramid of Khufuinto place by using some of the
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supernatural magic.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Exactly and we can easily assume that anything
believed to have been done bymagic back then was most likely
obtained from the application ofmisunderstood technology,
whatever that may be Magneticfields, acoustics, quantum
gravity.
That is all debatable and, ofcourse, unsubstantiated at this
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point in time.
Well, that's great that youguys got to go there.
It's too bad you weren't ableto meet up with our good friend
Aaron Long.
I know he lives in that part ofEngland not far from Stonehenge
.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Yeah, that was very disappointing.
Aaron and I really wanted tomeet up with one another.
We were texting back and forth,emailing, and he was just too
far away at the time and hecouldn't make the arrangements
to get there.
So that's one of the drawbacksabout cruises too is that you
only have a short window of timewhen doing excursions and such
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before you have to head back toyour ship and they won't wait
for you.
The ship will leave without you.
But hopefully, you know we bothcan meet up with him someday in
the near future here and anywayyou know.
But we were all bummed that wecouldn't meet up.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah for sure.
So this story about appearingand disappearing monoliths has
come about within the last fewyears and started making the
news right around the time ofthe pandemic.
We know, of course, that largemonoliths are found all over the
world, going back thousands ofyears, and they serve
architectural purposes that areboth functional and symbolic.
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Functional and symbolic we justmentioned Stonehenge.
Other well-known places areBaalbek in Lebanon, temple Mount
in Israel, karnak in Egypt andPumapunku in Bolivia, and indeed
there are dozens upon dozens ofplaces where ancient monoliths
are found, and in many cases,the way they were put into place
, as well as the reason why,isn't exactly understood.
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So the modern-day ones to whichwe're referring are not very
tall they're only about 10 to 12feet and they're not too, too
heavy Heavy enough, but nothundreds of tons and they're
made of metal, hollow metal.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, and there are, I believe, about 80 to 90 of
them that have been found,usually in pretty remote spots
where there isn't a whole lot ofpeople traffic, and I mean they
started popping up in late 2020, with the first one being
reported in Utah on November,the 18th, and somewhere to the
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southeast of Salt Lake City, andit was observed by a helicopter
crew with the Utah Departmentof Public Safety and it was in a
part of the desert that wasreally only accessible by
helicopter and they actuallylanded to inspect it up close.
The story was carried by a localnews TV station, in which they
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explained that it was just ahollow rectangular shaft that
was deliberately planted in theground and that it was made of
very shiny metal that did notappear to serve any purpose
Nothing like electronic modulesor antennas as part of it.
It did nothing, it was justthere.
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And after they left that day,the same crew flew over the area
on November 27th and themonolith was gone, and there's
plenty of footage available ofthis monolith on the internet,
as well as most of the others,but they really do look like
something out of the movie 2001,a Space Odyssey, except those
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ones were like black color andnot reflective, like the one
that you know had been poppingup.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, you're right, they do.
In that movie Stanley Kubrick,at the beginning was trying to
convey the idea of someevolutionary shift and with that
dynamic musical piece,strauss's Thus Spoke,
zarathustra is resembled by thatdark slab monolith with the
apes around it.
It is supposed to illustratethe start of mankind, and in the
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novel by Arthur C Clarke theblack monolith is supposed to
represent technological progress, as it is a tool created by
some alien race that assistslesser advanced species to
evolve.
And it was very controversialwhen the film came out in 1968,
and I guess you can say that itstill is.
It came out during the heightof the Cold War and depicted,
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perhaps subtly, the danger thathas come about through humans'
use of technology, in that itbrings about complete
destruction.
This is seen with the primate'sfirst use of a bone as a weapon
and then, after hundreds ofthousands of years, manifests in
the way of us becoming thehighly advanced Homo sapiens
that we are now, with technologythat actually threatens the
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very existence of our entirespecies.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Well, the movie and the book do have several
messages that a lot of peoplehave interpreted to mean that we
as a species are continuing toevolve into a higher level in
which, you know, much like thealien intelligence that is
portrayed.
We too are moving into anexistence that is more in the
way of consciousness, somethingmore like energy, and we've
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discussed that subject here onthe show quite a few times.
But anyway, there are, ofcourse, some folks who are
saying that that is wherewhoever is responsible for
placing these monoliths got thewhole idea from, none other than
2001, the Space Odyssey, and Ican definitely see that.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, for sure I, I can too.
And after that one in utah wasseen and then unseen, another
one very similar in appearancewas reported on the outskirts of
pietra nimat in romania, allthe way on the other side of the
world, uh, and this was onnovember 27th, the same day as
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the one that disappeared on in.
But unlike that one, it alsovanished a few days later, in a
similar way, this time onDecember 2nd 2020.
And it was also composed of analuminum or steel alloy shaped
as a triangular prism, asopposed to the rectangular one
that had in Utah, had marks.
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This one had marks on it asthough it was scored by some
kind of grinder.
It was also welded together,while the one in Utah had
fasteners on it, you know, likerivets.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Oddly enough, the one in Romania appeared the same
day that the one in Utah wasclaimed to have disappeared, and
that one disappeared the samedate when the one in Estacadero
Park, california, appeared, andthat was on December 2nd.
Then on December 7th, a fourthone appeared in Albuquerque, new
Mexico.
Now the most recent one hasappeared in the desert landscape
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of Nevada, near Las Vegas, justthis past June, and that one
was taken down by theauthorities and taken as
evidence in hope of, you know,finding out who put it there.
I guess, and you know it wasplaced on federal land, which is
illegal.
That's probably why they tookit.
And you know this one was madeof sheet metal and rebar which
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was borrowed deep into the harddesert landscape.
So the police, however, aren'tyou know they're not saying
anything about it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'm sure they're investigating to see if there
are any clues that comeavailable to try to locate who
put it there.
Like you said, it's illegal toerect these things on federal
land.
That's environmentallysensitive that area, for many
reasons.
Also, the military function isvery close to a lot of military
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installations.
But then there's also theBureau of Land Management that
looks at migrations of blocks ofanimals and the thing is, as we
both know, it's difficult tolift latent prints, like
fingerprints, of something thathas been collecting dust,
especially in a desert.
Now there is a video recordingby a photographer named Ross
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Bernard that shows a few youngguys dismantling the Utah
monolith back in December of2020.
And it was aired on a localnews TV station in Salt Lake
City.
The identities of those guyswere not given and we can't
confirm that.
The reporting of it was in thesame place and it was, that it
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was the exact same monolith.
Um, there's no way to referencethe original monolith that was
seen by those helicopterhelicopter crew.
So it looks like it, but can wesay for sure it's the exact same
one?
We really can't, because it'sdark and, you know, somewhere in
the desert.
There's no way to identify thatthat is the same one in?
We really can't, because it'sdark and somewhere in the desert
.
There's no way to identify thatthat is the same one in the
same place and, according toBusiness Insider magazine dated
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in December 20th 2020, there areabout 87 of these that are all
over the world and if they'reseen taken down, there's no way
to say for sure that's the onethat they're claiming to have
taken down, because they're notshowing the surroundings that
would indicate that it's thesame one.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah, I'm not sure if that was the Utah monolith that
they were showing.
I think that was the NorthernCalifornia one.
I think I'm not sure.
I think it was in NorthernCalifornia it was one that they
took down in California as well.
Yeah, is that the one wherethey put the cross up in its
place, or something?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It was one of them, but there was also another one
that they took down and theynever give the names of those
people.
I mean, they're just a bunch ofguys who are taking it down in
the dark and that's it.
And, like you said, yeah, theydid a wreck, one with a frost.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, but if this is done by humans, and of course we
believe they are, then it wouldhave taken a significant amount
of planning and resources tocomplete it.
These things are beginning tobe like the next crop circle
phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
They do pop up overnight and some of them are
unexplained as to how they gotthere, and you know know, they
are also believed to beelaborate oaks or done by aliens
yeah, and you know with thisI'm going to kind of defer to
the maxim of occam's razor thatyou know the simplest
explanation isn't allprobability to correct one, and
that would be academicallyirresponsible, especially from
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what we know about the objectthemselves, the objects
themselves and how they weremade, and for us to suggest that
they are paranormal orextraterrestrial in any way.
These things are almostcertainly built and assembled by
people.
That's what we're seeing in theevidence that we have, and that
they were put in place bypeople, even if we don't fully
understand precisely how thatwould have been accomplished.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
But the thing is we know that these monoliths are
made from Earth material.
Now, could an alien still havemade it?
I mean, I guess they could.
I mean it wouldn't beimpossible, right, if you
believed in aliens, if you thinkabout it, I mean I can see it
being done by some, you know,elaborate jokesters and you know
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, due to the relatively cheapmaterials and all.
However, the puzzling thing ishow it got put in those remote
places, because there's novehicle tracks that were located
in and or around the areas ofthe location.
You know, were they flown in byan helicopter?
I mean, if that was the case,that's going to take some, you
know, financial blessings.
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But who would go through allthat trouble and why?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, well, I mean franksters and jokesters, let's
be frank, and maybe some thathave a lot of money.
We don't.
People can and will do crazythings.
Sometimes they even, you know,defy explanation.
But yes, you're right, it ishard to figure out.
The one in Utah is in a placethat was virtually inaccessible
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without a helicopter, accordingto boxcom dated June 18th 2024.
You know, Utah's Division ofWildlife Services told the New
York Times it's a tough place toget to on vehicle and on foot,
and a spokesperson saidofficials for the Department of
Public Safety went on to addthat they had no idea how long
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that monolith had even beenthere.
Although Reddit sleuths useGoogle Earth, they must have had
a lot of time on their hands todo this as well, To work out
that it was possibly installedaround the time between August
2015 and October 2016, so quitea few years ago.
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We really don't know for sure.
And, with that said, asdifficult as it may be to get to
that area, it is not impossible.
It can be done, just not withease.
So if these are, in fact, a workof art, the stunt itself may be
considered as part of thecreative form that goes into
things like that.
Just look at things like livingsculpture as an example.
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A lot of work and creativityand kind of oddity goes into
that.
So if it is art, the questionis why the plain, shiny metal
shafts?
What is the theme behind it?
What is it supposed tosymbolize and what emotions is
it supposed to evoke?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Yeah, and a couple of people claim to have made it,
you know.
Others also came out afterwardsand you know, claim being
behind it and it was offeringthe monoliths for sale for, like
I don't know, forty, fivethousand dollars or something
like that.
And, uh, the names of of thosewho took down the california one
that we were talking aboutearlier, you know, uh, were
mentioned in the la times, sincethey, you know, they went ahead
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and replaced the uh, that'swhat we're talking about with
the metal monolith with a metalcross of the same size.
So it was all a religious thingand whatnot.
And so I believe no one reallyknows who is really doing all of
this.
Maybe some of it, but not allof it.
So the mere fact that when onegoes up and is taken, you know,
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is taken down and another erects, you know, across the world, it
seems very coordinated to me.
And there are also no reportsof aircraft being witnessed in
the areas, so I mean, and noreports of vehicle tracks being
found either.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, and also you know there's nothing about any
strange lights as we find withthe stories that involve, you
know, crop circles and animalmutilations and, if you recall,
a lot of reports about cattleand goats being found dead as
though they were dissected.
And you also have this claimabout UFOs being witnessed at or
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near the time of the mutilationbeing discovered, as well as in
the very same vicinity.
And the same is true with thecrop circles.
We don't seem to have that withthe appearing and disappearing
monoliths.
They seem to pop up and someonenotices and actually some
places are starting tocapitalize on the whole thing as
being a gimmick.
There is an old-fashioned candystore in the strip district of
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Pittsburgh, pennsylvania, myhometown, that had put up one
out on the front sidewalk againas an avant-garde kind of
attraction to lore and customers.
You know, kind of capitalizedon the whole gimmick and the
hype with the monoliths.
But the question is still why amonolith?
What about that?
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Why not something else?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Right, like why not a wheel or a stick, like a stick
figure or something.
But you know, we have to wonderif a plain shaft of stone or
metal means something in themythological tradition.
Does it symbolize something ona deeper level in our
subconscious minds?
The answer is yes, it doesindeed.
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Conscious minds the answer isyes, it does indeed.
It just says seen in 2001, aspace odyssey.
The monolith represents aconnection to something higher,
almost like it is a doorway to adifferent dimension or
something.
And think of the Tower of Babelfrom the book of Genesis.
Right, I mean, not much isgiven in terms of a description,
but certainly it would havebeen made so as to improve and
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move higher, higher in ourevolution and higher in our
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consciousness.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, that's very well put.
And we also have to ask, laurie, if the appearance and
subsequent disappearance we'lljust call it movement of
monoliths has happened before inhuman history.
Well, the answer is yes.
We see how obelisks have beenfound throughout the world.
They are rectangular ortriangular, prisms, shafts that
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stand tall like any monolith,only with a pointed top.
And the word first comes fromthe writings of the Greek
historian Herodotus, whomentioned them as being found
throughout Egypt as monumentsnot only to the greatness of the
pharaohs but also as a means todivert man's attention to the
sun disk, which is Ra, and theEgyptian theology, which is also
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God.
So we do see that there is wellwithin the spiritual and
mythological fabric of ourcultures that the significance
of not only rectangularmonoliths but also all polygonal
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shapes in the formation ofarchetypes in the unconscious
mind.
They represent bothunderstanding of mystery as well
as intuitive knowledge of theself, like pathways to a
transcendence within our thoughtprocesses.
Friedrich Nietzsche explainedthat the reflection of life
through art is equally well asscientific discovery in the
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quest for defining our existenceand will to power.
Interestingly, his book ThusSpoke Zarathustra is the title
that composer Richard Straussgave to his symphonic piece that
is now iconic to 2001 A SpaceOdyssey.
When, when the black monolithis shown on the movie screen
with all the apes, so, again,the $64,000 question is why?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Why are these things being erected Like we discussed?
They seem to bewell-coordinated and
well-financed, which leads me tobelieve that someone is wanting
to send a message.
Financed, which leads me tobelieve that someone is wanting
to send a message.
And the one in Utah was put inplace in well, what did we say?
2016, 2015, 2016?
Long before the pandemic hit.
However, it was discoveredduring the height of COVID and
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by government officials.
So is there a connection to howit was located?
Was it meant to be found duringthe pandemic?
I mean, think about it as soonas it was discovered.
Another one goes up after itwas removed, all the way over in
Romania.
I mean, that is planned on amassive scale.
Could this be the coordinatedwork of an elite group of people
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like, say, the Illuminati andlike we discussed in a previous
episode about them, even thoughthey may think they're in
control of humanity?
Is there, say, some higherextraterrestrial force
controlling them?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, that's what we don't know.
I mean, like we said, webelieve that people and we have
good reason to believe thatpeople are the ones responsible
for this.
As far as the reason and themotivation, I want to call it
the drive, the thing that iscompelling them, that could be
something else, that could besomething of a higher force, it
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could be something from beyondour world.
We don't know.
Know, you know what inspirespeople to seek any kind of
discovery or to make any kind of, you know, elaborate statement
using something like art.
Those are questions that youknow, we have to wonder about,
you know yeah, um, I mean, wellsaid, and with that, you know,
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we will conclude today's episodeyeah, and we like to say we, we
discuss all things about aliensand ufos, but that doesn't mean
that we accept all things astrue about aliens and ufos.
Um, and I think we can safelypresume that these appearing and
disappearing monoliths are theresult of human effort.
There's really nothing toogenuinely about it to make us
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believe that they are, say,extraterrestrial artifacts or
some kind of evidence of psychicabnormality.
They are probably just bizarreworks of art.
But again, what is the drivingforce behind making people want
to do this?
So, even so, there could be asymbolic significance that sort
of permeates this collectivesubconscious, and it is apparent
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in such a way for us to supposethat the drive to place these
monoliths may stem from anunderlying desire, a conscious
desire, perhaps one might evensay an obsession, to connect
with the extraterrestrial, evenif only in the form of artwork.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Agreed and but anyway , so I think that's that's it
for us tonight, and we're wehope you all enjoyed it.
This is, this was one that someof you have been asking us to
do, so we hope it was what youwished for and, uh, let us know
if, uh, you know if, uh, if youdid like it.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Right, hey, just I mean we're joining us.
On our next episode, we have aspecial interview lined up with
Dr Bruce Rapuano Uh.
He is a neurobiologist, amongother specialties, with
extraordinary credentials andwho has done medical research on
cellular physiology andendocrinology at the Memorial
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Sloan Kettering Cancer Centerand the Hospital for Special
Surgery.
Both are in New York City as itis.
He has also been a guest on thepopular radio show Coast to
Coast AM within just the lastcouple of years, so we will have
the distinct honor of havinghim join us for a discussion on
the abduction theory and hisviews on it as a scientist.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that one and
hopefully we can learn some realinsight into the topic of alien
abductions and you know, that'scoming from an actual
biomedical researcher, right?
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Hello everybody, thank you for joining us on
Alien Talk Podcast.
This is the show where wediscuss all things about aliens
and UFOs and, as always, wherewe push the limits of our
understanding.
Joe Landry and Nori Oldfordhere once again to seek out the
truth and find the factspertaining to the highly
discussed issues aboutextraterrestrial life and the
existence of UFOs.
So tonight we want to spendsome time talking about
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monoliths, particularly the onesthat have been in some news
stories in recent years.
They have been popularly calledthe appearing, disappearing
monoliths.
Oddly enough, despite the wordmonolith meaning one stone,
these ones are not made of stone.
Instead, they're made of metal,stainless steel or aluminum.
Mere shafts of well-formed.
They're made of metal,stainless steel or aluminum,
mirror shafts of well-formed andwell-finished metal, so that
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they are clearly not naturalfeatures.
They were made somewhere andthen moved into place, usually
in spots that are off the beatenpath, some even quite remote.
So could these things be thework of a higher intelligence,
possibly beyond our world, orare they simply the work of
human creativity?
And with that trickery, whoeverput them there, we have to
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So stay tuned, we'll be back inone minute.
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Speaker 1 (02:21):
So, Lori, I guess we should begin the show with a
welcome back from your voyage.
You and your wife took a nicelong and relaxing cruise
throughout Europe and made astop in England, Isn't that
right?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
That is right.
My wife and I celebrated our30th wedding anniversary in Val
Renewal on the Norwegian Dawncruise ship.
We went around the BritishIsles.
It was a fascinating trip andwe absolutely loved it.
And also my wife agreed tocommit to me for another 30
years, so I think she reallyloves me.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Another 30 years.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, but of course I was also lucky enough to get
the chance to visit Stonehengewhile I was on the trip and that
was quite an experience, anamazing place to see.
I'm really glad I got to see it.
I did not want to miss going tothat place.
For sure it had to be done.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, well, we're glad to have you guys back safe
and sound, and we went ahead andput some of those photos that
you took over there on ourwebsite and Facebook page, and
it truly does look like afascinating place.
Scholars now believe thatStonehenge is older than the
Giza pyramids and even olderthan the very existence of the
Egyptian civilization.
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The theory is that it was meantto serve as an astronomical
observatory and calendar thathelped the ancient inhabitants
track time and seasons, and apopular belief is that it was
meant to serve as anastronomical observatory and
calendar that helped the ancientinhabitants track time and
seasons, and a popular belief isthat the Druids erected it,
although that has not beenverified through any historical
evidence.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah, it was first erected around 5,000 years ago,
about 3,000 BC, and it's thoughtto have been a burial ground at
first, and this is what theyexplain to you when you go visit
it there and they have thisvery large screen where they lay
out the entire history of itand the large stones were put in
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place sometime after that andover the course of thousands of
years.
You know, others have added,you know so to make it into the
timekeeping observatory that iteventually became.
And if you look at the stonesnow, there's certain areas where
it's like open and you can seewood that you know we have put
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in there to.
You know, try and keep thestones upright, to try and keep
the stones upright.
But the new theory is now is howthe stones got there?
Is that they were transportedby the sea, and the thing is the
sea coast is like 180 milesaway and it's like a two-hour
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car ride going at 75 miles perhour.
So imagine quarreling stones,some of which were as heavy as a
bus, and placed onto what boatsmade of reeds or even out of
wood Weren't metal ships backthen?
The smallest stone, which areknown as the blue stones, are as
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heavy as a sedan or a pickuptruck and as soon as you walk
through the visitor center yousee a stone laying on its side,
on these wooden logs as rollers,and the whole plains there are
like hills and stuff for as faras the eye can see and it would
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have taken a tremendousworkforce to accomplish, you
know, getting those stones allthe way over those hilly plains.
So the question is why did theypick that spot, that particular
spot, and why were those rocksfrom almost 200 miles away?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Like many other wonders from the ancient past,
it does make you wonder aboutthe idea of maybe lost
technology well, yeah, I mean,just the idea of moving
something that big, even 10 feet, uh, it sounds monumental
tasking of itself.
I mean, uh, can you imaginejust trying to move something
like that across your backyardusing log rollers, wood rollers?
So here we have this thingbeing rolled on wood logs from
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your house all the way up toPhoenix.
Definitely not an easyundertaking, and you'd have to
wonder what would motivatesomebody to do that.
It wouldn't take a lot tomotivate me to move it just a
few feet to my backyard.
And some, may many, people notknow this, but there is an
age-old myth, an age-old taleabout how Merlin the magician
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used some sort of power to movethose stones in the place.
Of course, that story usuallygets brushed aside, but indeed
the lore about the place hascrossed its path with the
Arthurian legends.
So it seems that even theancient people way back then
wondered, just as we do, howthose stones got there.
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There seems to be no record inthe history of the Britons and
the Celts as to how and whenStonehenge was built, as to how
and when Stonehenge was built,as opposed to, say, egypt and
Mesoamerica, where at least wehave names associated with the
pyramids there, such as Khufuand Quetzalcoatl.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yeah, and we find that in Egypt there is an
example of a magical narrative.
There actually is a record ofthat.
It was discovered in 2013 on apapyrus dating to about the 5th
century BC near Saqqara.
That tells how priests of thegod Thoth had moved the stones
of the Great Pyramid of Khufuinto place by using some of the
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supernatural magic.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Exactly and we can easily assume that anything
believed to have been done bymagic back then was most likely
obtained from the application ofmisunderstood technology,
whatever that may be Magneticfields, acoustics, quantum
gravity.
That is all debatable and, ofcourse, unsubstantiated at this
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point in time.
Well, that's great that youguys got to go there.
It's too bad you weren't ableto meet up with our good friend
Aaron Long.
I know he lives in that part ofEngland not far from Stonehenge
.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Yeah, that was very disappointing.
Aaron and I really wanted tomeet up with one another.
We were texting back and forth,emailing, and he was just too
far away at the time and hecouldn't make the arrangements
to get there.
So that's one of the drawbacksabout cruises too is that you
only have a short window of timewhen doing excursions and such
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before you have to head back toyour ship and they won't wait
for you.
The ship will leave without you.
But hopefully, you know we bothcan meet up with him someday in
the near future here and anywayyou know.
But we were all bummed that wecouldn't meet up.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah for sure.
So this story about appearingand disappearing monoliths has
come about within the last fewyears and started making the
news right around the time ofthe pandemic.
We know, of course, that largemonoliths are found all over the
world, going back thousands ofyears, and they serve
architectural purposes that areboth functional and symbolic.
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Functional and symbolic we justmentioned Stonehenge.
Other well-known places areBaalbek in Lebanon, temple Mount
in Israel, karnak in Egypt andPumapunku in Bolivia, and indeed
there are dozens upon dozens ofplaces where ancient monoliths
are found, and in many cases,the way they were put into place
, as well as the reason why,isn't exactly understood.
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So the modern-day ones to whichwe're referring are not very
tall they're only about 10 to 12feet and they're not too, too
heavy Heavy enough, but nothundreds of tons and they're
made of metal, hollow metal.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, and there are, I believe, about 80 to 90 of
them that have been found,usually in pretty remote spots
where there isn't a whole lot ofpeople traffic, and I mean they
started popping up in late 2020, with the first one being
reported in Utah on November,the 18th, and somewhere to the
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southeast of Salt Lake City, andit was observed by a helicopter
crew with the Utah Departmentof Public Safety and it was in a
part of the desert that wasreally only accessible by
helicopter and they actuallylanded to inspect it up close.
The story was carried by a localnews TV station, in which they
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explained that it was just ahollow rectangular shaft that
was deliberately planted in theground and that it was made of
very shiny metal that did notappear to serve any purpose
Nothing like electronic modulesor antennas as part of it.
It did nothing, it was justthere.
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And after they left that day,the same crew flew over the area
on November 27th and themonolith was gone, and there's
plenty of footage available ofthis monolith on the internet,
as well as most of the others,but they really do look like
something out of the movie 2001,a Space Odyssey, except those
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ones were like black color andnot reflective, like the one
that you know had been poppingup.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, you're right, they do.
In that movie Stanley Kubrick,at the beginning was trying to
convey the idea of someevolutionary shift and with that
dynamic musical piece,strauss's Thus Spoke,
zarathustra is resembled by thatdark slab monolith with the
apes around it.
It is supposed to illustratethe start of mankind, and in the
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novel by Arthur C Clarke theblack monolith is supposed to
represent technological progress, as it is a tool created by
some alien race that assistslesser advanced species to
evolve.
And it was very controversialwhen the film came out in 1968,
and I guess you can say that itstill is.
It came out during the heightof the Cold War and depicted,
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perhaps subtly, the danger thathas come about through humans'
use of technology, in that itbrings about complete
destruction.
This is seen with the primate'sfirst use of a bone as a weapon
and then, after hundreds ofthousands of years, manifests in
the way of us becoming thehighly advanced Homo sapiens
that we are now, with technologythat actually threatens the
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very existence of our entirespecies.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Well, the movie and the book do have several
messages that a lot of peoplehave interpreted to mean that we
as a species are continuing toevolve into a higher level in
which, you know, much like thealien intelligence that is
portrayed.
We too are moving into anexistence that is more in the
way of consciousness, somethingmore like energy, and we've
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discussed that subject here onthe show quite a few times.
But anyway, there are, ofcourse, some folks who are
saying that that is wherewhoever is responsible for
placing these monoliths got thewhole idea from, none other than
2001, the Space Odyssey, and Ican definitely see that.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, for sure I, I can too.
And after that one in utah wasseen and then unseen, another
one very similar in appearancewas reported on the outskirts of
pietra nimat in romania, allthe way on the other side of the
world, uh, and this was onnovember 27th, the same day as
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the one that disappeared on in.
But unlike that one, it alsovanished a few days later, in a
similar way, this time onDecember 2nd 2020.
And it was also composed of analuminum or steel alloy shaped
as a triangular prism, asopposed to the rectangular one
that had in Utah, had marks.
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This one had marks on it asthough it was scored by some
kind of grinder.
It was also welded together,while the one in Utah had
fasteners on it, you know, likerivets.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Oddly enough, the one in Romania appeared the same
day that the one in Utah wasclaimed to have disappeared, and
that one disappeared the samedate when the one in Estacadero
Park, california, appeared, andthat was on December 2nd.
Then on December 7th, a fourthone appeared in Albuquerque, new
Mexico.
Now the most recent one hasappeared in the desert landscape
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of Nevada, near Las Vegas, justthis past June, and that one
was taken down by theauthorities and taken as
evidence in hope of, you know,finding out who put it there.
I guess, and you know it wasplaced on federal land, which is
illegal.
That's probably why they tookit.
And you know this one was madeof sheet metal and rebar which
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was borrowed deep into the harddesert landscape.
So the police, however, aren'tyou know they're not saying
anything about it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'm sure they're investigating to see if there
are any clues that comeavailable to try to locate who
put it there.
Like you said, it's illegal toerect these things on federal
land.
That's environmentallysensitive that area, for many
reasons.
Also, the military function isvery close to a lot of military
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installations.
But then there's also theBureau of Land Management that
looks at migrations of blocks ofanimals and the thing is, as we
both know, it's difficult tolift latent prints, like
fingerprints, of something thathas been collecting dust,
especially in a desert.
Now there is a video recordingby a photographer named Ross
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Bernard that shows a few youngguys dismantling the Utah
monolith back in December of2020.
And it was aired on a localnews TV station in Salt Lake
City.
The identities of those guyswere not given and we can't
confirm that.
The reporting of it was in thesame place and it was, that it
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was the exact same monolith.
Um, there's no way to referencethe original monolith that was
seen by those helicopterhelicopter crew.
So it looks like it, but can wesay for sure it's the exact same
one?
We really can't, because it'sdark and, you know, somewhere in
the desert.
There's no way to identify thatthat is the same one in?
We really can't, because it'sdark and somewhere in the desert
.
There's no way to identify thatthat is the same one in the
same place and, according toBusiness Insider magazine dated
(16:43):
in December 20th 2020, there areabout 87 of these that are all
over the world and if they'reseen taken down, there's no way
to say for sure that's the onethat they're claiming to have
taken down, because they're notshowing the surroundings that
would indicate that it's thesame one.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Yeah, I'm not sure if that was the Utah monolith that
they were showing.
I think that was the NorthernCalifornia one.
I think I'm not sure.
I think it was in NorthernCalifornia it was one that they
took down in California as well.
Yeah, is that the one wherethey put the cross up in its
place, or something?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It was one of them, but there was also another one
that they took down and theynever give the names of those
people.
I mean, they're just a bunch ofguys who are taking it down in
the dark and that's it.
And, like you said, yeah, theydid a wreck, one with a frost.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yeah, but if this is done by humans, and of course we
believe they are, then it wouldhave taken a significant amount
of planning and resources tocomplete it.
These things are beginning tobe like the next crop circle
phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
They do pop up overnight and some of them are
unexplained as to how they gotthere, and you know know, they
are also believed to beelaborate oaks or done by aliens
yeah, and you know with thisI'm going to kind of defer to
the maxim of occam's razor thatyou know the simplest
explanation isn't allprobability to correct one, and
that would be academicallyirresponsible, especially from
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what we know about the objectthemselves, the objects
themselves and how they weremade, and for us to suggest that
they are paranormal orextraterrestrial in any way.
These things are almostcertainly built and assembled by
people.
That's what we're seeing in theevidence that we have, and that
they were put in place bypeople, even if we don't fully
understand precisely how thatwould have been accomplished.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
But the thing is we know that these monoliths are
made from Earth material.
Now, could an alien still havemade it?
I mean, I guess they could.
I mean it wouldn't beimpossible, right, if you
believed in aliens, if you thinkabout it, I mean I can see it
being done by some, you know,elaborate jokesters and you know
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, due to the relatively cheapmaterials and all.
However, the puzzling thing ishow it got put in those remote
places, because there's novehicle tracks that were located
in and or around the areas ofthe location.
You know, were they flown in byan helicopter?
I mean, if that was the case,that's going to take some, you
know, financial blessings.
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But who would go through allthat trouble and why?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, well, I mean franksters and jokesters, let's
be frank, and maybe some thathave a lot of money.
We don't.
People can and will do crazythings.
Sometimes they even, you know,defy explanation.
But yes, you're right, it ishard to figure out.
The one in Utah is in a placethat was virtually inaccessible
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without a helicopter, accordingto boxcom dated June 18th 2024.
You know, Utah's Division ofWildlife Services told the New
York Times it's a tough place toget to on vehicle and on foot,
and a spokesperson saidofficials for the Department of
Public Safety went on to addthat they had no idea how long
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that monolith had even beenthere.
Although Reddit sleuths useGoogle Earth, they must have had
a lot of time on their hands todo this as well, To work out
that it was possibly installedaround the time between August
2015 and October 2016, so quitea few years ago.
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We really don't know for sure.
And, with that said, asdifficult as it may be to get to
that area, it is not impossible.
It can be done, just not withease.
So if these are, in fact, a workof art, the stunt itself may be
considered as part of thecreative form that goes into
things like that.
Just look at things like livingsculpture as an example.
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A lot of work and creativityand kind of oddity goes into
that.
So if it is art, the questionis why the plain, shiny metal
shafts?
What is the theme behind it?
What is it supposed tosymbolize and what emotions is
it supposed to evoke?
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Yeah, and a couple of people claim to have made it,
you know.
Others also came out afterwardsand you know, claim being
behind it and it was offeringthe monoliths for sale for, like
I don't know, forty, fivethousand dollars or something
like that.
And, uh, the names of of thosewho took down the california one
that we were talking aboutearlier, you know, uh, were
mentioned in the la times, sincethey, you know, they went ahead
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and replaced the uh, that'swhat we're talking about with
the metal monolith with a metalcross of the same size.
So it was all a religious thingand whatnot.
And so I believe no one reallyknows who is really doing all of
this.
Maybe some of it, but not allof it.
So the mere fact that when onegoes up and is taken, you know,
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is taken down and another erects, you know, across the world, it
seems very coordinated to me.
And there are also no reportsof aircraft being witnessed in
the areas, so I mean, and noreports of vehicle tracks being
found either.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, and also you know there's nothing about any
strange lights as we find withthe stories that involve, you
know, crop circles and animalmutilations and, if you recall,
a lot of reports about cattleand goats being found dead as
though they were dissected.
And you also have this claimabout UFOs being witnessed at or
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near the time of the mutilationbeing discovered, as well as in
the very same vicinity.
And the same is true with thecrop circles.
We don't seem to have that withthe appearing and disappearing
monoliths.
They seem to pop up and someonenotices and actually some
places are starting tocapitalize on the whole thing as
being a gimmick.
There is an old-fashioned candystore in the strip district of
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Pittsburgh, pennsylvania, myhometown, that had put up one
out on the front sidewalk againas an avant-garde kind of
attraction to lore and customers.
You know, kind of capitalizedon the whole gimmick and the
hype with the monoliths.
But the question is still why amonolith?
What about that?
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Why not something else?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Right, like why not a wheel or a stick, like a stick
figure or something.
But you know, we have to wonderif a plain shaft of stone or
metal means something in themythological tradition.
Does it symbolize something ona deeper level in our
subconscious minds?
The answer is yes, it doesindeed.
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Conscious minds the answer isyes, it does indeed.
It just says seen in 2001, aspace odyssey.
The monolith represents aconnection to something higher,
almost like it is a doorway to adifferent dimension or
something.
And think of the Tower of Babelfrom the book of Genesis.
Right, I mean, not much isgiven in terms of a description,
but certainly it would havebeen made so as to improve and
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move higher, higher in ourevolution and higher in our
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consciousness.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, that's very well put.
And we also have to ask, laurie, if the appearance and
subsequent disappearance we'lljust call it movement of
monoliths has happened before inhuman history.
Well, the answer is yes.
We see how obelisks have beenfound throughout the world.
They are rectangular ortriangular, prisms, shafts that
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stand tall like any monolith,only with a pointed top.
And the word first comes fromthe writings of the Greek
historian Herodotus, whomentioned them as being found
throughout Egypt as monumentsnot only to the greatness of the
pharaohs but also as a means todivert man's attention to the
sun disk, which is Ra, and theEgyptian theology, which is also
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God.
So we do see that there is wellwithin the spiritual and
mythological fabric of ourcultures that the significance
of not only rectangularmonoliths but also all polygonal
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shapes in the formation ofarchetypes in the unconscious
mind.
They represent bothunderstanding of mystery as well
as intuitive knowledge of theself, like pathways to a
transcendence within our thoughtprocesses.
Friedrich Nietzsche explainedthat the reflection of life
through art is equally well asscientific discovery in the
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quest for defining our existenceand will to power.
Interestingly, his book ThusSpoke Zarathustra is the title
that composer Richard Straussgave to his symphonic piece that
is now iconic to 2001 A SpaceOdyssey.
When, when the black monolithis shown on the movie screen
with all the apes, so, again,the $64,000 question is why?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Why are these things being erected Like we discussed?
They seem to bewell-coordinated and
well-financed, which leads me tobelieve that someone is wanting
to send a message.
Financed, which leads me tobelieve that someone is wanting
to send a message.
And the one in Utah was put inplace in well, what did we say?
2016, 2015, 2016?
Long before the pandemic hit.
However, it was discoveredduring the height of COVID and
(26:44):
by government officials.
So is there a connection to howit was located?
Was it meant to be found duringthe pandemic?
I mean, think about it as soonas it was discovered.
Another one goes up after itwas removed, all the way over in
Romania.
I mean, that is planned on amassive scale.
Could this be the coordinatedwork of an elite group of people
(27:07):
like, say, the Illuminati andlike we discussed in a previous
episode about them, even thoughthey may think they're in
control of humanity?
Is there, say, some higherextraterrestrial force
controlling them?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, that's what we don't know.
I mean, like we said, webelieve that people and we have
good reason to believe thatpeople are the ones responsible
for this.
As far as the reason and themotivation, I want to call it
the drive, the thing that iscompelling them, that could be
something else, that could besomething of a higher force, it
(27:45):
could be something from beyondour world.
We don't know.
Know, you know what inspirespeople to seek any kind of
discovery or to make any kind of, you know, elaborate statement
using something like art.
Those are questions that youknow, we have to wonder about,
you know yeah, um, I mean, wellsaid, and with that, you know,
(28:08):
we will conclude today's episodeyeah, and we like to say we, we
discuss all things about aliensand ufos, but that doesn't mean
that we accept all things astrue about aliens and ufos.
Um, and I think we can safelypresume that these appearing and
disappearing monoliths are theresult of human effort.
There's really nothing toogenuinely about it to make us
(28:31):
believe that they are, say,extraterrestrial artifacts or
some kind of evidence of psychicabnormality.
They are probably just bizarreworks of art.
But again, what is the drivingforce behind making people want
to do this?
So, even so, there could be asymbolic significance that sort
of permeates this collectivesubconscious, and it is apparent
(28:55):
in such a way for us to supposethat the drive to place these
monoliths may stem from anunderlying desire, a conscious
desire, perhaps one might evensay an obsession, to connect
with the extraterrestrial, evenif only in the form of artwork.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Agreed and but anyway , so I think that's that's it
for us tonight, and we're wehope you all enjoyed it.
This is, this was one that someof you have been asking us to
do, so we hope it was what youwished for and, uh, let us know
if, uh, you know if, uh, if youdid like it.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Right, hey, just I mean we're joining us.
On our next episode, we have aspecial interview lined up with
Dr Bruce Rapuano Uh.
He is a neurobiologist, amongother specialties, with
extraordinary credentials andwho has done medical research on
cellular physiology andendocrinology at the Memorial
(29:56):
Sloan Kettering Cancer Centerand the Hospital for Special
Surgery.
Both are in New York City as itis.
He has also been a guest on thepopular radio show Coast to
Coast AM within just the lastcouple of years, so we will have
the distinct honor of havinghim join us for a discussion on
the abduction theory and hisviews on it as a scientist.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that one and
hopefully we can learn some realinsight into the topic of alien
abductions and you know, that'scoming from an actual
biomedical researcher, right?
And by the way, folks, if youlike what we do here and the
time it takes for us to putthese episodes together, feel
free to show us your support bycontinuing to follow us on our
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website and social media pages.
Social media pages, you know,and if you can and if we would
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support us, you know, whetherit's by purchasing any of our
books or whatnot.
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So, but we appreciate you allas our faithful listeners and
that's why you know there are nofees, no extra fees for you to
sign up for in order to read ournewsletters that we, you know,
send out sometimes, and thatsort of thing.
It's all free for you to accesson our sites.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Absolutely, and we are here to show you what
information we obtain from ourown investigations and then
present it to you, our audience,in the way that we uniquely do.
So thank you all and until nexttime, as always, stay safe out
there and stay curious.
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