May 2, 2024 • 35 mins
Could ancient mythologies hold the key to understanding an interplanetary federation? Prepare to stretch your imagination as we explore the tantalizing myths and modern musings of alien councils throughout the galaxy. From the pantheons of gods in age-old religious texts that may mirror celestial beings, to the interstellar collectives championed by science fiction titans like Star Wars and Star Trek, we sift through the narratives and question whether humanity has always been under the watchful eye of a higher cosmic order.
Embark with us on a journey through the stars as we contemplate Earth's potential role within the Galactic Federation. We analyze the bewildering accounts of Valiant Thor's Earthly visit and the secretive assertions of Haim Eshed and Peter Hellyer about human-alien collaborations. Could these be mere flights of fancy, or is there more to these tales than meets the eye? We assess the speculative paths humanity could take to join a peaceful galactic alliance.
Our gaze then turns skyward to the enigma of UFOs and their possible connections to a galactic coalition of worlds. We examine the implications of astronaut Edgar Mitchell's beliefs and the recent Pentagon disclosures on UAPs, pondering whether our planet is under surveillance by advanced civilizations. As we venture beyond the known, we invite you to consider the profound implications of what it means to be part of this vast and marvelous universe. Tune in for an episode that promises to transcend the everyday and venture into the extraordinary realms of possibility and wonder.
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Joe (00:02):
Hello, everybody, thank you for joining us on Alien Talk
Podcast.
This is the show where wediscuss all things about aliens
and UFOs and, as always, wherewe push the limits of
understanding.
We are Joe and Laurie, here toseek the truth and find the
facts pertaining to highlydiscussed issues about the
ancient astronaut theory andcontemporary ufology.
So, one of the more acclaimedbuzz words or buzz phrases that
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a lot of folks have beenthrowing out there in the last
few years is extraterrestrialfederations or extraterrestrial
councils or galactic federationsthroughout our galaxy or
throughout the universe.
But they are all joinedtogether in a grand effort to
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achieve some common cause orcommon purpose for some interest
in like a big UN or a big WorldEconomic Forum type of setup
out in space.
And I suppose this is a fittingtopic for this week, as we are
coming up on May the 4th, whichis pejoratively known as Star
Wars Day.
Right May the 4th, pejorativelyknown as Star Wars Day, right?
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May the 4th, you know.
Be with you.
Yes, is this a possibility?
We've all heard about such athing in science fiction.
It's the stuff of theimagination.
The way it functions is vividlypresented to us in movies like
Star Trek, Star Wars, BattlestarGalactica, and others.
In those, you have the UnitedFederation of Planets, the
Galactic Senate, the GalacticEmpire, the Cylon Empire, also
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the Intergalactic Council fromDoctor Who, you know, with those
things called the Daleks.
So, as fascinating as it sounds, the evidence that suggests or
supports such an idea ofsomething like that really
existing out there is well zero.
But, Laurie, that is not to saythat our mythological
traditions are not totallyimmersed with the belief in some
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concept of it, right?
I mean the notion about highcouncils or echelons of gods and
angels and other beings thatdwell among the stars is one
that has always been a part ofthe human collective memory.
Laurie (02:07):
That's right, Joe.
The ancient texts are loadedwith references to earthly
affairs being governed andinfluenced by the whims and
wills of the gods actingtogether, whether it be in
concert or in opposition to oneanother or in opposition to one
another.
Even in all our religions wehave plenty of teachings that
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expound on how everything downhere is controlled by forces up
there in the heavens, and how weanswer to powers that are far
above us and that are sosplendid and awesome and
glorious that we as people can'teven begin to comprehend them.
And the idea is very similar tothat of a highly advanced
organization of multitudes ofalien species that are so much
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more sophisticated andtechnologically developed than
us that we essentially have noawareness of it.
Joe (02:58):
I think it's kind of comparable to how there are
primitive societies here onEarth that are isolated from the
rest of the intricacies of ourcomplex world, such that they
live their lives as being forthe most part unaware of the
existence of things like NATO orthe United Nations, or even the
Peace Corps for that matter.
However, they definitely couldconceptualize it simply based on
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the organization of socialorder and hierarchy, in which
there could be a council ofelders in the tribe among the
island dwellers, and in this waythey could believe that other
people exist beyond theirislands and that they too might
form some kind of higher council.
And we certainly do see thisexhibited in cultures around the
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world and, yes, they make up aconsiderable aspect of the
various theologies out there.
It is indeed found in the Bible.
There is the imagery depicted ofa heavenly host.
You know, even if Judaism,christianity and Islam are
monotheistic, they don't providean illustration of God being up
there all by himself.
He is surrounded by otherbeings, such as angels and
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spirits.
In Hinduism and Buddhism thereare multitudes of spirits that
exist in levels of realms higherthan human life on Earth.
And, of course, in the Greekand Egyptian and the other
so-called pagan religions.
There are entire panthenons ofgods and demigods.
Laurie (04:23):
Yeah, and I mean that's why God said in for the
Christian God, the Judaism Godor God of the Jews.
You know, you shall not haveany other gods before me.
So but yeah, the ancient textsare loaded with narratives about
councils of gods living amongthe stars.
We'll just take a passage fromPsalms 82, for example.
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As I read this verse, I wantyou to imagine the physical, the
bodily, flesh and blood natureof the entities that are present
in this and imagine as thoughthis was from a sci-fi movie or
a novel.
You can do that with all of theBible.
Just look at it from thatperspective when you read it the
next time.
But so here is what it saysstraight from the scripture, and
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it says God presides in thegreat assembly, he renders
judgment among the gods.
Now, this is in the NIV, the NewInternational Version.
In other versions it says thatGod stands.
God stands in the congregationof the mighty or of the divine
council.
And what we must remember isthat this passage is written by
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an ancient man who is tellingthe story of a God meeting with
other gods and accusing them ofunjustly condemning mankind.
And some think that this is theHebrew God talking among his
angels, but it doesn't actuallysay that is what he is doing.
The Biblical writer isportraying God.
He's telling the others thatthey are the sons of the Most
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High.
So, is God referring to himselfor is he referring to a God who
is higher than he is on thishierarchical ladder?
And the mention of a council isalso found in the second
chapter of Job being gatheredwith the sons of God in the
assembly place, with Satan aswell being a part of it, and
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they also were involved indeciding judgment on King
Nebuchadnezzar.
In the book of Daniel, the NewKing James Version has God
speaking to the congregation ofthe mighty hosts.
So this don't seem to refer tothe traditional angelic hosts
that we usually think of, butinstead it paints a picture of
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God being among other gods, notthe angels, a picture of God
being among other gods, not theangels.
In per-Christian theology theyare never referred to as gods
speaking of the angels, becausethey were created by God and
therefore they are not deities.
They are the messengers of Godor the sons of God.
Joe (07:06):
So if such a council or councils exist, how would we
have any way of knowing about itunless they allowed it or
facilitated it?
Right, how would we know aboutit unless, yes, they allowed it
and made it known to us thatthey exist?
And that's sort of what the UFOphenomena is all about and that
we're finding out becausethey're kind of letting
themselves be seen, whether theymean to or not.
I mean, consider the island inthe Indian Ocean inhabited by
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the Sentinelese tribe.
Most, if not all, of thosepeople have no knowledge about
how their very livelihoods onthat island may have been
affected by the mandates andpolicies of various world
organizations and worldgovernments, international
coalitions.
They would only know if we wereable to go and make contact
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with them and make ourselvesseen to them.
And we know that there aredozens of island territories
throughout the South Pacific andin the region of Australia,
Africa and South America wherethere are communities which are
remote and are virtually cut offpolitically and economically
from the rest of the world.
This was exhibited to a greatdegree with the rise of
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colonialism in the last 600years.
You know, the more advanced anddeveloped countries are aware
of them and their existence assimple societies, even if their
comprehension, in this case ofthe European ventures was quite
limited.
Could the same be said about usas the entire human race here
on planet Earth?
Would we be seen in the way ofunexplained phenomena and
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current UFO sightings in theskies, of what may be like how
the indigenous people were seenwhen foreign colonists were
arriving in their lands?
Laurie (08:44):
That's a very good point and that's a very good
explanation, because a councilof the so-called gods actually
do exist.
That we can prove, and that'sus, that's our governments.
And to people who areindigenous folk, seeing an
airplane flying over that wouldbe a UFO to them because it's an
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unidentified flying object.
To somebody as indigenous assome of these places are, they
don't have the words to explainthat.
So that's a really goodexplanation.
And you know, there's also thecargo cult of the island of, I
think it's called Vanuatu, inMelanesia in the South Pacific,
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and during World War II, theinhabitants of the island who
until that time had never seenanyone from another place.
They came into contact withAmerican servicemen, and it's
said that there were a lot oftroops, supplies and battlefield
material being brought onto theisland and that this was very
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intrusive to the lifestyles ofthe people.
However, the American GIs alsohelped them by giving them food,
medicine and variouscommodities, and they introduced
them to what would have beenconsidered advanced technology,
such as automobiles, radios andcameras.
Joe (10:06):
Right.
And, as that story goes, theseislanders eventually form their
own religion from theseexperiences and depict the
servicemen as being like divinebeings not only one serviceman,
but them collectively andthey're identified with a more
transient entity that they referto as john from.
And that's not an actual nameof one of the guys.
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Instead, it is a name that hascome to embody the entire
essence of all of the servicementogether who came and left.
And that's how they see it.
It is a fabricated name ofsomething that is not real, but
to them it is associated withthe story of their interactions
that were indeed real.
Laurie (10:48):
Exactly story of their interactions that were indeed
real, exactly, and that's whatwe mean by.
You know, this is probably howour ancients perceived our gods,
of our religions, right, and itmay be that we are reaching a
point now that we are, you know,better understanding the
possibilities of intelligentlife existing on other worlds,
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and because of that we may begetting closer to that point of
having the technologicalcapacity to interrelate with
them, and perhaps they areconsidering the same thing about
us.
And in our last episode wementioned how the mysterious
being called Valiant Thor issaid to have come to Earth with
two others and met with thenPresident Eisenhower, and we've
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talked about how he was believedto have announced a plan for
humans to eventually join agalactic federation.
But this membership came with acondition Earth must first rid
itself of nuclear weaponry.
Joe (11:45):
Of course, this was a no-go , at least it was at that time,
so maybe that means we're stillin the initiation phase of that
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membership process.
Maybe this is the actual andhighly classified agenda to the
so-called New World Order wementioned before about how
certain high-level people,geopolitical leaders even have
come out and commented on thisvery idea of a coalition
existing among alien races thatmonitor certain worlds like ours
so as to seek diplomatic andsynergistic relations with other
species other species and that,of course, being on a
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presumption that said planet isat the point in its evolution
that it is ready for that.
We've alluded before to howHaim Eshed, the former Israeli
director of space security, hasopenly proclaimed the existence
of that very kind of thing, analien federation, and that the
US government has information onit.
And, according to what he hastold various media
correspondents, with theJerusalem Post and with NBC News
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, the American military iscarrying out secret operations
on Mars with these entities, andhis statements have never been
verified.
And, according to an articlerun by Newsweek and dated
December 8th 2020, it has causeda stir on internet blogs and
social medias social media postsmostly in the form of mockery,
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and neither, naturally, neitherthe US nor Israeli governments
have given any comment on thatat all, and it was also the
televised interview on theCanadian news network CBC in
2011, in which the formerdefense minister, Peter Hellyer,
rather flatly said that thereis a planetary federation
comprised of alien races fromall over our galaxy, and one of
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his later statements was thatthere are at least four species
of aliens visiting Earth andthey have been for thousands of
years.
Four species of aliens visitingEarth, and they have been for
thousands of years, and withmost of them coming from other
star systems, but also some ofthem living in our own solar
system, like Venus, mars,saturn's moons.
It makes you wonder what all heknew and never recanted, even
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before his death.
He died just recently.
Well, about three years ago, onAugust 8th 2021.
He mentioned a race of aliensliving on Venus.
This goes along with the storyabout Valiant Thor that we
talked about, with planetseverywhere having life on them,
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and these guys, ashed and Heli,aren't the only two who have
publicly talked about this.
Many years ago, the formerprime minister of Uzbekistan
mentioned having contact withaliens and said something pretty
much to the same effect thatthere is a galactic federation
that the US military has knownabout for decades.
Laurie (14:44):
Yeah.
So I mean it makes you wonder.
And there is an article by DonPettis at the CBC News, posted
December 9th of 2020, and it'stitled no wonder the Galactic
Federation spurns us.
Canada can't manage the one wehave on Earth.
Joe (15:03):
Every country right.
Laurie (15:04):
Yeah, every country.
So what is it about formergovernment officials spilling
the beans on space aliens?
And that's what he asked.
And of course he is referringto Eshed and Hellyer, who are
both high-level officials thatclaim that there are outer space
aliens, clear that a galacticfederation exists, and they
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rejected Earth because it wasn'tready.
And don't forget what wediscussed last episode about
Valiant Thor he supposedlymentioned this very thing, and
so that's why we will mostlikely not see that happen in
our lifetime, because we won'tbe ready by then, probably not
for a long shot.
So let's take the TV and moviescreated about Star Trek and
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that work by Gene Roddenberry.
The United Federation of Planetsdoesn't get established until
the year 2161, almost 100 yearssince that storyline's first
contact, which was in 2063.
And eventually, the firstmembers to form in this galactic
type alliance you know, thefirst members were, uh, earth,
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vulcan and doria and teller, andthen, as time progressed over
the centuries, it attained, itobtained more planets that
joined the, the organization,the federation, the.
The federation became the newgovernment.
Now it was the one worldgovernment of Earth and the
entire quadrant of the galaxyand its space force is called
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Starfleet.
And the worlds that joined theFederation did so through
peaceful resolutions.
However, starfleet was also aforce to be reckoned with and
had a special forces type unitknown as Sector 31.
And this is a lot like what weare living in today.
The US is the United States andthe UN is the United Nations.
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Could our species be on thepath to forming a one world
government, a united Earth?
And it may not be so untilafter a World War III event,
like in Star Trek, that we beginthe true process of joining
together and putting aside ourpetty differences.
But wouldn't it be great if ourfuture generations could look
back to our generation and beproud to say that we averted a
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third world war and cametogether for the betterment of
our civilization?
Wouldn't that be great?
Joe (17:22):
That would be something I hope that can be said hundreds
of years from now.
And you know the theme of thesenarratives that we're going
over.
They tell of our eligibility,if you will, for humanity's
inclusion into this federationyou know, for peaceful purposes
where we are to join other racesin the exploration and sharing
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of knowledge about the cosmos.
And that made me have thecommon goal.
And it always seems the same,the theme of it about the cosmos
.
And that made me have thecommon goal, and it always seems
the same.
The theme of it is the same, andthat is we are not ready for it
yet, but we're getting therethat's another part of it,
slowly but surely.
And there is a recognition thatwe have, as humans, tremendous
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potential and we are stilllearning how to be responsible
with our scientific discoveriesand breakthroughs, and not only
that, but the very evolution ofour minds are taking us closer
to the capacity for harnessingour higher consciousness, which
seems to be tantamount to whatother alien species sort of show
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as the ability to makethemselves advanced.
They utilize higher mentalprocesses that enable telepathy,
clairvoyance and detailedintuition in such a way that
they can communicate among oneanother and organize their
efforts in a harmonious way,Basically, we all be on the same
sheet of music, and we arecertainly not at that point in
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our evolution unfortunately not.
Laurie (18:54):
Yeah, but you know that would be nice if we could and,
however, we we don't see thathappening with with how our
current affairs are going.
But, uh, before we can moveforward in our quest to become a
space-faring civilization likestar trek, we must definitely
come together.
So stop fighting and killingamongst ourselves over religion,
money and natural resources,because, uh, we are all so
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focused on getting ahead of oneanother by staying the
superpower or becoming the nextbig superpower, super duper
power.
So can you imagine what thisworld would be like if Russia,
china, europe and the USA allcame together for humanity's
sake?
Joe (19:33):
But I guess that is why we are considered a type zero
civilization that are beingthousands of times less capable
of self-sustainment andintegration with our planetary
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environment.
What you're referring to is theKardahev Scale, named after
Russian astronomer, NikolaiKardashev, as a hypothetical way
to categorize aliencivilizations and sort of
classify their evolutionary andtechnological stage of
sophistication by how muchenergy they are able to access
on their home worlds, right?
Laurie (20:21):
Well, and to elaborate on that, a type one can, type
one civilization can consume allenergy available on the planet.
A type two can consume all ofthe energy, uh, for a sun, and a
type three all of that energyfor the galaxy.
So a type zero.
The species hasn't evolvedenough to even start working
together to figure out how notto kill one another for the
little bit of energy theyextracted from their plants and
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their own trial and error way ofinnovation.
And that's where we are.
We have to completely cometogether and work for a common
purpose.
Joe (20:53):
Unfortunately, that is where we are.
Unfortunately, that is.
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Exploration of space should notbe driven by competition or by
trying to get profit, butinstead by the desire simply to
expand our knowledge andunderstanding, presumably for
the betterment of the entirehuman race, not just certain
parts of it.
He also happened to be aFreemason.
Along with Buzz Aldrin, theywere the two Freemason
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astronauts, and Mitchell wasalso known as an occultist.
He was big into things like ESPand remote healing, and in 2004
, he told the Saint PetersburgTimes that there is a cobble of
insiders, as he called them, andthat they were studying alien
bodies presumably recovered fromRoswell, and that after the
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death of John F Kennedy, allpresidential briefings had
ceased on this, and it reallybecame extremely clandestine
after that.
Laurie (22:14):
And you really should pay attention to when people
like astronauts make suchstatements.
You know, I wonder if GeneRoddenberry was influenced by
this old valiant Thor thing wetalked about last episode when
he created the Star Trek series.
Thor was in 1957 and Star Trekwas created in 1964.
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Was in 1957 and Star Trek wascreated in 1964, or could
Roddenberry have been influencedto create these stories as a
precursor for our future amongthe stars?
America, under President Trump,initiated the US Space Force,
which is separate from the AirForce and its own branch of the
military.
And let's take this guy, garyMcKinnon, for example.
He's a Scottish systemsadministrator who hacked into
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over 90 US military and NASAcomputers in the early 2000s,
and he alleges that he's seenrecords that show where
spacecraft is kept that do notseem to be from Earth, beginning
with the typical call sign ofUSS, but they did not match any
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used in the US Navy.
And he also said that he sawsomething documented about NEOs,
which are non-Earth officers,and these would be like the
military personnel who came fromother worlds, just like how it
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would be in the movies, I guess.
Or maybe there were otherhumans that have become part of
this non-Earth officers, I don'tknow, but he also claims to
have seen a photo of a largecigar-shaped object and was so
shocked by it that he didn'tthink to take a screenshot of it
.
So whatever it was he saw afterhacking the servers, the US,
they still want him today andthere is a warrant out for his
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arrest.
Joe (24:03):
Yeah, he's in the interest of causing something like over
$700,000 in damages, plus allthe espionage charges
top-secret this information.
And yeah, he's currently on atravel restriction and must
remain in England or else beextradited to the US and
arrested.
Laurie (24:21):
Yeah.
So who knows, it may be thatthe secret space program is part
of, and may even be consideredto be in the beginning stages of
, something like Sector 31 inStar Trek, an elite spacefaring
military.
Like I said before, if we canbuild it down here, we can build
it up there.
Think about all those tripsright Known and unknown by the
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public.
Nasa has made over threedecades on rockets and space
shuttles.
Not everything was broadcastedto the public, and now, with the
US Space Force, there is evenmore room for classified
operations taking place overEarth.
Even the emblem that they havelooks a lot like the one for
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Starfleet.
So I think, much like how weare today trying to decipher the
technology in the drawings ofLeonardo da Vinci, our future
civilization will do the samething with us.
They will say things like youknow, how could they possibly
know we would be traveling inspace in ships like these?
Joe (25:25):
And with that we have to ask, and wonder could we have
already begun the process oftaking our place in a galactic
federation of planets?
I guess it would depend onwhich world leader you asked.
We may have and it may be thatthe secret space program is part
of it.
It may even be considered to bethe beginning stages of
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something like what you'rereferring to about Sector 31 in
Star Trek, an elite militaryspacefaring unit.
So yeah, it makes you wonder.
You know, I'm always kind ofwondered in terms of our own
advancement in science andengineering in comparison to
them.
You know, if we were to equateit in terms of us comparing it
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to a point in time in humanity,what would be the relative
comparison?
You know?
Laurie (26:16):
Well, I guess that's hard to say.
I mean, I would have no idea.
I think we would be to themlike, well, we'd be better than
the Stone Age people, I wouldthink.
Joe (26:26):
Yeah, I think so too.
I mean, we have mastered quitea bit of you know, with societal
organization, language law,innovation, adaptation to the
environment, self-awareness, allthat.
So we would, we would, wewouldn't be all that primitive.
But I, I don't know either.
Maybe like the Roman era withgovernment and civil planning,
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engineering, knowledge, literaryskill.
I don't know, maybe that's notall that great.
The Roman times are pretty bad.
But I wonder how they would seeus.
Would they see us the way wesee the Roman Empire or the
Roman civilization, kind ofcomparatively speaking?
Laurie (27:10):
Yeah, I mean, we may one day be like that to a
civilization that we discoversomeday on some planet, but our
infant stage of nuclear weapondevelopment might definitely be
disconcerting to them,especially since we are still a
type zero civilization and areshowing a propensity for using
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them against ourselves areshowing a propensity for using
them against ourselves.
Edgar Mitchell once told theBritish magazine The Mirror in
2015, that his quote is WhiteSands was a testing ground for
atomic weapons and that's whatthe extraterrestrials were
interested in.
This is coming from a NASAastronaut and they wanted to
know about our militarycapabilities.
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And they wanted to know aboutour military capabilities.
And he says my own experiencetalking to people has made it
clear that the ETs had beenattempting to keep us from going
to war and help create peace onEarth.
And Mitchell also told TheMirror that other military
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personnel had confided in himabout alien spacecraft actually
disabling nuclear missiles orshooting them down over the
Pacific coast.
So, if they are out there, theyare most definitely watching
and monitoring our progression.
And in an article by Ben Lewisin the Galactic Federation of
Light dated April 7, 2023, hesaid that the Pentagon has
acknowledged the possibility ofa mothership in our solar system
that may possibly be anemissary from a galactic
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federation, and he mentions how,according to Luis Elizondo, a
former employee at the DefenseDepartment, claim that there is
evidence that an alien spaceshipmay be watching planet Earth
from a distance.
He based this on data gatheredby the DoD through encounters
with UAPs that were witnessedover the years that suggest a
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mothership is close by.
Again, these are unconfirmedclaims, of course, and there's
no evidence to prove otherwise.
However, this is based on whatwe know and not what the
government actually knows andhas yet to inform the public on,
which may never be or may notbe disclosed until a very long
time in the future.
So don't hold your breath.
Joe (29:23):
Yeah, right.
Well, I think Mitchell said itbest when, in Palo Alto,
California, he told theInstitute of Noetic Sciences
this is his quote that fromlooking at Earth from space, you
come up with the question whoare we, how do we get here and
where is it all going?
And that's an ancient, ancientquestion that humans have asked
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for a long time.
My experience was to realizethat perhaps our science is
wrong at answering thesequestions and perhaps our
religious cosmologies arearchaic and flawed.
And perhaps our religiouscosmologies are archaic and
flawed and given that now we arean extraterrestrial
civilization ourselves, we needto ask these questions and do a
lot more work to find theanswers.
That's a rather profoundproclamation and, yes, like you
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said, when astronauts say thiskind of thing, yeah.
I guess you give it a littlemore, you know, credence there.
I mean it's not.
You know somebody who's youknow never, you know,
experienced space.
I mean these guys actually havegone up there.
They, you know mitchell walkedon the moon.
So I guess smart people yeah,that is extremely, extremely
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intelligent.
These guys, you know, tookextremely difficult courses in
engineering and mathematics andaerodynamics, learning flight
operations.
I mean, they were great pilots.
That's why they were chosen tobecome the lunar astronauts.
So, when they say these kindsof things, I'm not saying you
have to buy into it completely,because most of us don't buy
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into it completely, most of usdon't.
I'm not saying I have boughtinto it completely either, but
I'm going to lend an ear when Ihear people in certain positions
say it.
It's worth noting.
And, as always, you, theaudience, must decide.
We present you with thediscussion and you decide what
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you think.
Are we near to being part of agalactic federation?
Is there such a thing as theGalactic Federation or is this
more or less the fabrication ofstorytellers?
And that will conclude anothergreat discussion, Laurie.
Laurie (31:30):
Yeah, sure was Joe, and I guess only time will tell.
I guess we may not be aroundwhen it all happens, but hey,
who knows, maybe it will.
But anyway, for you all outthere, keep looking to the sky,
everybody.
You just may be thecivilization that one day may
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wake up to a galactic federation, revealing itself to the world
and accepting our place amongthe stars.
It's just like what JesusChrist once said in Luke 21: 28
"when these things begin to takeplace, stand up, lift up your
heads, because your redemptionis drawing near.
He even tells us in whichdirection to look.
Matthew 24 (32:09):
7 says for as lightning comes from east; it is
visible even in the west.
So will the coming of the Sonof man.
Joe (32:17):
And also, like how the Apostle Paul states in 1
Thessalonians 5 (32:20):
1-2, "about the dates and times, we do not need
to write to you.
For you know very well that theday of the Lord will come like
a thief in the night.
" And with that we hope you getback with our next episode and
join us for our next episode.
We're going to discuss TallWhites and the Shadow Government
(32:44):
.
Tall whites, not a Starbuckslatte.
Aliens, okay, aliens, if youhaven't already guessed it.
Laurie (32:53):
I think they've already guessed it, Joe.
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This is the show where wediscuss all things about aliens
and UFOs and, as always, wherewe push the limits of
understanding.
We are Joe and Laurie, here toseek the truth and find the
facts pertaining to highlydiscussed issues about the
ancient astronaut theory andcontemporary ufology.
So, one of the more acclaimedbuzz words or buzz phrases that
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a lot of folks have beenthrowing out there in the last
few years is extraterrestrialfederations or extraterrestrial
councils or galactic federationsthroughout our galaxy or
throughout the universe.
But they are all joinedtogether in a grand effort to
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achieve some common cause orcommon purpose for some interest
in like a big UN or a big WorldEconomic Forum type of setup
out in space.
And I suppose this is a fittingtopic for this week, as we are
coming up on May the 4th, whichis pejoratively known as Star
Wars Day.
Right May the 4th, pejorativelyknown as Star Wars Day, right?
(01:08):
May the 4th, you know.
Be with you.
Yes, is this a possibility?
We've all heard about such athing in science fiction.
It's the stuff of theimagination.
The way it functions is vividlypresented to us in movies like
Star Trek, Star Wars, BattlestarGalactica, and others.
In those, you have the UnitedFederation of Planets, the
Galactic Senate, the GalacticEmpire, the Cylon Empire, also
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the Intergalactic Council fromDoctor Who, you know, with those
things called the Daleks.
So, as fascinating as it sounds, the evidence that suggests or
supports such an idea ofsomething like that really
existing out there is well zero.
But, Laurie, that is not to saythat our mythological
traditions are not totallyimmersed with the belief in some
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concept of it, right?
I mean the notion about highcouncils or echelons of gods and
angels and other beings thatdwell among the stars is one
that has always been a part ofthe human collective memory.
Laurie (02:07):
That's right, Joe.
The ancient texts are loadedwith references to earthly
affairs being governed andinfluenced by the whims and
wills of the gods actingtogether, whether it be in
concert or in opposition to oneanother or in opposition to one
another.
Even in all our religions wehave plenty of teachings that
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expound on how everything downhere is controlled by forces up
there in the heavens, and how weanswer to powers that are far
above us and that are sosplendid and awesome and
glorious that we as people can'teven begin to comprehend them.
And the idea is very similar tothat of a highly advanced
organization of multitudes ofalien species that are so much
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more sophisticated andtechnologically developed than
us that we essentially have noawareness of it.
Joe (02:58):
I think it's kind of comparable to how there are
primitive societies here onEarth that are isolated from the
rest of the intricacies of ourcomplex world, such that they
live their lives as being forthe most part unaware of the
existence of things like NATO orthe United Nations, or even the
Peace Corps for that matter.
However, they definitely couldconceptualize it simply based on
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the organization of socialorder and hierarchy, in which
there could be a council ofelders in the tribe among the
island dwellers, and in this waythey could believe that other
people exist beyond theirislands and that they too might
form some kind of higher council.
And we certainly do see thisexhibited in cultures around the
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world and, yes, they make up aconsiderable aspect of the
various theologies out there.
It is indeed found in the Bible.
There is the imagery depicted ofa heavenly host.
You know, even if Judaism,christianity and Islam are
monotheistic, they don't providean illustration of God being up
there all by himself.
He is surrounded by otherbeings, such as angels and
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spirits.
In Hinduism and Buddhism thereare multitudes of spirits that
exist in levels of realms higherthan human life on Earth.
And, of course, in the Greekand Egyptian and the other
so-called pagan religions.
There are entire panthenons ofgods and demigods.
Laurie (04:23):
Yeah, and I mean that's why God said in for the
Christian God, the Judaism Godor God of the Jews.
You know, you shall not haveany other gods before me.
So but yeah, the ancient textsare loaded with narratives about
councils of gods living amongthe stars.
We'll just take a passage fromPsalms 82, for example.
(04:46):
As I read this verse, I wantyou to imagine the physical, the
bodily, flesh and blood natureof the entities that are present
in this and imagine as thoughthis was from a sci-fi movie or
a novel.
You can do that with all of theBible.
Just look at it from thatperspective when you read it the
next time.
But so here is what it saysstraight from the scripture, and
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it says God presides in thegreat assembly, he renders
judgment among the gods.
Now, this is in the NIV, the NewInternational Version.
In other versions it says thatGod stands.
God stands in the congregationof the mighty or of the divine
council.
And what we must remember isthat this passage is written by
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an ancient man who is tellingthe story of a God meeting with
other gods and accusing them ofunjustly condemning mankind.
And some think that this is theHebrew God talking among his
angels, but it doesn't actuallysay that is what he is doing.
The Biblical writer isportraying God.
He's telling the others thatthey are the sons of the Most
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High.
So, is God referring to himselfor is he referring to a God who
is higher than he is on thishierarchical ladder?
And the mention of a council isalso found in the second
chapter of Job being gatheredwith the sons of God in the
assembly place, with Satan aswell being a part of it, and
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they also were involved indeciding judgment on King
Nebuchadnezzar.
In the book of Daniel, the NewKing James Version has God
speaking to the congregation ofthe mighty hosts.
So this don't seem to refer tothe traditional angelic hosts
that we usually think of, butinstead it paints a picture of
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God being among other gods, notthe angels, a picture of God
being among other gods, not theangels.
In per-Christian theology theyare never referred to as gods
speaking of the angels, becausethey were created by God and
therefore they are not deities.
They are the messengers of Godor the sons of God.
Joe (07:06):
So if such a council or councils exist, how would we
have any way of knowing about itunless they allowed it or
facilitated it?
Right, how would we know aboutit unless, yes, they allowed it
and made it known to us thatthey exist?
And that's sort of what the UFOphenomena is all about and that
we're finding out becausethey're kind of letting
themselves be seen, whether theymean to or not.
I mean, consider the island inthe Indian Ocean inhabited by
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the Sentinelese tribe.
Most, if not all, of thosepeople have no knowledge about
how their very livelihoods onthat island may have been
affected by the mandates andpolicies of various world
organizations and worldgovernments, international
coalitions.
They would only know if we wereable to go and make contact
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with them and make ourselvesseen to them.
And we know that there aredozens of island territories
throughout the South Pacific andin the region of Australia,
Africa and South America wherethere are communities which are
remote and are virtually cut offpolitically and economically
from the rest of the world.
This was exhibited to a greatdegree with the rise of
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colonialism in the last 600years.
You know, the more advanced anddeveloped countries are aware
of them and their existence assimple societies, even if their
comprehension, in this case ofthe European ventures was quite
limited.
Could the same be said about usas the entire human race here
on planet Earth?
Would we be seen in the way ofunexplained phenomena and
(08:34):
current UFO sightings in theskies, of what may be like how
the indigenous people were seenwhen foreign colonists were
arriving in their lands?
Laurie (08:44):
That's a very good point and that's a very good
explanation, because a councilof the so-called gods actually
do exist.
That we can prove, and that'sus, that's our governments.
And to people who areindigenous folk, seeing an
airplane flying over that wouldbe a UFO to them because it's an
(09:07):
unidentified flying object.
To somebody as indigenous assome of these places are, they
don't have the words to explainthat.
So that's a really goodexplanation.
And you know, there's also thecargo cult of the island of, I
think it's called Vanuatu, inMelanesia in the South Pacific,
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and during World War II, theinhabitants of the island who
until that time had never seenanyone from another place.
They came into contact withAmerican servicemen, and it's
said that there were a lot oftroops, supplies and battlefield
material being brought onto theisland and that this was very
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intrusive to the lifestyles ofthe people.
However, the American GIs alsohelped them by giving them food,
medicine and variouscommodities, and they introduced
them to what would have beenconsidered advanced technology,
such as automobiles, radios andcameras.
Joe (10:06):
Right.
And, as that story goes, theseislanders eventually form their
own religion from theseexperiences and depict the
servicemen as being like divinebeings not only one serviceman,
but them collectively andthey're identified with a more
transient entity that they referto as john from.
And that's not an actual nameof one of the guys.
(10:28):
Instead, it is a name that hascome to embody the entire
essence of all of the servicementogether who came and left.
And that's how they see it.
It is a fabricated name ofsomething that is not real, but
to them it is associated withthe story of their interactions
that were indeed real.
Laurie (10:48):
Exactly story of their interactions that were indeed
real, exactly, and that's whatwe mean by.
You know, this is probably howour ancients perceived our gods,
of our religions, right, and itmay be that we are reaching a
point now that we are, you know,better understanding the
possibilities of intelligentlife existing on other worlds,
(11:09):
and because of that we may begetting closer to that point of
having the technologicalcapacity to interrelate with
them, and perhaps they areconsidering the same thing about
us.
And in our last episode wementioned how the mysterious
being called Valiant Thor issaid to have come to Earth with
two others and met with thenPresident Eisenhower, and we've
(11:32):
talked about how he was believedto have announced a plan for
humans to eventually join agalactic federation.
But this membership came with acondition Earth must first rid
itself of nuclear weaponry.
Joe (11:45):
Of course, this was a no-go , at least it was at that time,
so maybe that means we're stillin the initiation phase of that
(12:06):
membership process.
Maybe this is the actual andhighly classified agenda to the
so-called New World Order wementioned before about how
certain high-level people,geopolitical leaders even have
come out and commented on thisvery idea of a coalition
existing among alien races thatmonitor certain worlds like ours
so as to seek diplomatic andsynergistic relations with other
species other species and that,of course, being on a
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presumption that said planet isat the point in its evolution
that it is ready for that.
We've alluded before to howHaim Eshed, the former Israeli
director of space security, hasopenly proclaimed the existence
of that very kind of thing, analien federation, and that the
US government has information onit.
And, according to what he hastold various media
correspondents, with theJerusalem Post and with NBC News
(12:54):
, the American military iscarrying out secret operations
on Mars with these entities, andhis statements have never been
verified.
And, according to an articlerun by Newsweek and dated
December 8th 2020, it has causeda stir on internet blogs and
social medias social media postsmostly in the form of mockery,
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and neither, naturally, neitherthe US nor Israeli governments
have given any comment on thatat all, and it was also the
televised interview on theCanadian news network CBC in
2011, in which the formerdefense minister, Peter Hellyer,
rather flatly said that thereis a planetary federation
comprised of alien races fromall over our galaxy, and one of
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his later statements was thatthere are at least four species
of aliens visiting Earth andthey have been for thousands of
years.
Four species of aliens visitingEarth, and they have been for
thousands of years, and withmost of them coming from other
star systems, but also some ofthem living in our own solar
system, like Venus, mars,saturn's moons.
It makes you wonder what all heknew and never recanted, even
(14:02):
before his death.
He died just recently.
Well, about three years ago, onAugust 8th 2021.
He mentioned a race of aliensliving on Venus.
This goes along with the storyabout Valiant Thor that we
talked about, with planetseverywhere having life on them,
(14:26):
and these guys, ashed and Heli,aren't the only two who have
publicly talked about this.
Many years ago, the formerprime minister of Uzbekistan
mentioned having contact withaliens and said something pretty
much to the same effect thatthere is a galactic federation
that the US military has knownabout for decades.
Laurie (14:44):
Yeah.
So I mean it makes you wonder.
And there is an article by DonPettis at the CBC News, posted
December 9th of 2020, and it'stitled no wonder the Galactic
Federation spurns us.
Canada can't manage the one wehave on Earth.
Joe (15:03):
Every country right.
Laurie (15:04):
Yeah, every country.
So what is it about formergovernment officials spilling
the beans on space aliens?
And that's what he asked.
And of course he is referringto Eshed and Hellyer, who are
both high-level officials thatclaim that there are outer space
aliens, clear that a galacticfederation exists, and they
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rejected Earth because it wasn'tready.
And don't forget what wediscussed last episode about
Valiant Thor he supposedlymentioned this very thing, and
so that's why we will mostlikely not see that happen in
our lifetime, because we won'tbe ready by then, probably not
for a long shot.
So let's take the TV and moviescreated about Star Trek and
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that work by Gene Roddenberry.
The United Federation of Planetsdoesn't get established until
the year 2161, almost 100 yearssince that storyline's first
contact, which was in 2063.
And eventually, the firstmembers to form in this galactic
type alliance you know, thefirst members were, uh, earth,
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vulcan and doria and teller, andthen, as time progressed over
the centuries, it attained, itobtained more planets that
joined the, the organization,the federation, the.
The federation became the newgovernment.
Now it was the one worldgovernment of Earth and the
entire quadrant of the galaxyand its space force is called
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Starfleet.
And the worlds that joined theFederation did so through
peaceful resolutions.
However, starfleet was also aforce to be reckoned with and
had a special forces type unitknown as Sector 31.
And this is a lot like what weare living in today.
The US is the United States andthe UN is the United Nations.
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Could our species be on thepath to forming a one world
government, a united Earth?
And it may not be so untilafter a World War III event,
like in Star Trek, that we beginthe true process of joining
together and putting aside ourpetty differences.
But wouldn't it be great if ourfuture generations could look
back to our generation and beproud to say that we averted a
(17:17):
third world war and cametogether for the betterment of
our civilization?
Wouldn't that be great?
Joe (17:22):
That would be something I hope that can be said hundreds
of years from now.
And you know the theme of thesenarratives that we're going
over.
They tell of our eligibility,if you will, for humanity's
inclusion into this federationyou know, for peaceful purposes
where we are to join other racesin the exploration and sharing
(17:45):
of knowledge about the cosmos.
And that made me have thecommon goal.
And it always seems the same,the theme of it about the cosmos
.
And that made me have thecommon goal, and it always seems
the same.
The theme of it is the same, andthat is we are not ready for it
yet, but we're getting therethat's another part of it,
slowly but surely.
And there is a recognition thatwe have, as humans, tremendous
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potential and we are stilllearning how to be responsible
with our scientific discoveriesand breakthroughs, and not only
that, but the very evolution ofour minds are taking us closer
to the capacity for harnessingour higher consciousness, which
seems to be tantamount to whatother alien species sort of show
(18:28):
as the ability to makethemselves advanced.
They utilize higher mentalprocesses that enable telepathy,
clairvoyance and detailedintuition in such a way that
they can communicate among oneanother and organize their
efforts in a harmonious way,Basically, we all be on the same
sheet of music, and we arecertainly not at that point in
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our evolution unfortunately not.
Laurie (18:54):
Yeah, but you know that would be nice if we could and,
however, we we don't see thathappening with with how our
current affairs are going.
But, uh, before we can moveforward in our quest to become a
space-faring civilization likestar trek, we must definitely
come together.
So stop fighting and killingamongst ourselves over religion,
money and natural resources,because, uh, we are all so
(19:18):
focused on getting ahead of oneanother by staying the
superpower or becoming the nextbig superpower, super duper
power.
So can you imagine what thisworld would be like if Russia,
china, europe and the USA allcame together for humanity's
sake?
Joe (19:33):
But I guess that is why we are considered a type zero
civilization that are beingthousands of times less capable
of self-sustainment andintegration with our planetary
(19:53):
environment.
What you're referring to is theKardahev Scale, named after
Russian astronomer, NikolaiKardashev, as a hypothetical way
to categorize aliencivilizations and sort of
classify their evolutionary andtechnological stage of
sophistication by how muchenergy they are able to access
on their home worlds, right?
Laurie (20:21):
Well, and to elaborate on that, a type one can, type
one civilization can consume allenergy available on the planet.
A type two can consume all ofthe energy, uh, for a sun, and a
type three all of that energyfor the galaxy.
So a type zero.
The species hasn't evolvedenough to even start working
together to figure out how notto kill one another for the
little bit of energy theyextracted from their plants and
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their own trial and error way ofinnovation.
And that's where we are.
We have to completely cometogether and work for a common
purpose.
Joe (20:53):
Unfortunately, that is where we are.
Unfortunately, that is.
(21:17):
Exploration of space should notbe driven by competition or by
trying to get profit, butinstead by the desire simply to
expand our knowledge andunderstanding, presumably for
the betterment of the entirehuman race, not just certain
parts of it.
He also happened to be aFreemason.
Along with Buzz Aldrin, theywere the two Freemason
(21:41):
astronauts, and Mitchell wasalso known as an occultist.
He was big into things like ESPand remote healing, and in 2004
, he told the Saint PetersburgTimes that there is a cobble of
insiders, as he called them, andthat they were studying alien
bodies presumably recovered fromRoswell, and that after the
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death of John F Kennedy, allpresidential briefings had
ceased on this, and it reallybecame extremely clandestine
after that.
Laurie (22:14):
And you really should pay attention to when people
like astronauts make suchstatements.
You know, I wonder if GeneRoddenberry was influenced by
this old valiant Thor thing wetalked about last episode when
he created the Star Trek series.
Thor was in 1957 and Star Trekwas created in 1964.
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Was in 1957 and Star Trek wascreated in 1964, or could
Roddenberry have been influencedto create these stories as a
precursor for our future amongthe stars?
America, under President Trump,initiated the US Space Force,
which is separate from the AirForce and its own branch of the
military.
And let's take this guy, garyMcKinnon, for example.
He's a Scottish systemsadministrator who hacked into
(22:59):
over 90 US military and NASAcomputers in the early 2000s,
and he alleges that he's seenrecords that show where
spacecraft is kept that do notseem to be from Earth, beginning
with the typical call sign ofUSS, but they did not match any
(23:21):
used in the US Navy.
And he also said that he sawsomething documented about NEOs,
which are non-Earth officers,and these would be like the
military personnel who came fromother worlds, just like how it
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would be in the movies, I guess.
Or maybe there were otherhumans that have become part of
this non-Earth officers, I don'tknow, but he also claims to
have seen a photo of a largecigar-shaped object and was so
shocked by it that he didn'tthink to take a screenshot of it
.
So whatever it was he saw afterhacking the servers, the US,
they still want him today andthere is a warrant out for his
(24:03):
arrest.
Joe (24:03):
Yeah, he's in the interest of causing something like over
$700,000 in damages, plus allthe espionage charges
top-secret this information.
And yeah, he's currently on atravel restriction and must
remain in England or else beextradited to the US and
arrested.
Laurie (24:21):
Yeah.
So who knows, it may be thatthe secret space program is part
of, and may even be consideredto be in the beginning stages of
, something like Sector 31 inStar Trek, an elite spacefaring
military.
Like I said before, if we canbuild it down here, we can build
it up there.
Think about all those tripsright Known and unknown by the
(24:42):
public.
Nasa has made over threedecades on rockets and space
shuttles.
Not everything was broadcastedto the public, and now, with the
US Space Force, there is evenmore room for classified
operations taking place overEarth.
Even the emblem that they havelooks a lot like the one for
(25:04):
Starfleet.
So I think, much like how weare today trying to decipher the
technology in the drawings ofLeonardo da Vinci, our future
civilization will do the samething with us.
They will say things like youknow, how could they possibly
know we would be traveling inspace in ships like these?
Joe (25:25):
And with that we have to ask, and wonder could we have
already begun the process oftaking our place in a galactic
federation of planets?
I guess it would depend onwhich world leader you asked.
We may have and it may be thatthe secret space program is part
of it.
It may even be considered to bethe beginning stages of
(25:48):
something like what you'rereferring to about Sector 31 in
Star Trek, an elite militaryspacefaring unit.
So yeah, it makes you wonder.
You know, I'm always kind ofwondered in terms of our own
advancement in science andengineering in comparison to
them.
You know, if we were to equateit in terms of us comparing it
(26:10):
to a point in time in humanity,what would be the relative
comparison?
You know?
Laurie (26:16):
Well, I guess that's hard to say.
I mean, I would have no idea.
I think we would be to themlike, well, we'd be better than
the Stone Age people, I wouldthink.
Joe (26:26):
Yeah, I think so too.
I mean, we have mastered quitea bit of you know, with societal
organization, language law,innovation, adaptation to the
environment, self-awareness, allthat.
So we would, we would, wewouldn't be all that primitive.
But I, I don't know either.
Maybe like the Roman era withgovernment and civil planning,
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engineering, knowledge, literaryskill.
I don't know, maybe that's notall that great.
The Roman times are pretty bad.
But I wonder how they would seeus.
Would they see us the way wesee the Roman Empire or the
Roman civilization, kind ofcomparatively speaking?
Laurie (27:10):
Yeah, I mean, we may one day be like that to a
civilization that we discoversomeday on some planet, but our
infant stage of nuclear weapondevelopment might definitely be
disconcerting to them,especially since we are still a
type zero civilization and areshowing a propensity for using
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them against ourselves areshowing a propensity for using
them against ourselves.
Edgar Mitchell once told theBritish magazine The Mirror in
2015, that his quote is WhiteSands was a testing ground for
atomic weapons and that's whatthe extraterrestrials were
interested in.
This is coming from a NASAastronaut and they wanted to
know about our militarycapabilities.
(27:53):
And they wanted to know aboutour military capabilities.
And he says my own experiencetalking to people has made it
clear that the ETs had beenattempting to keep us from going
to war and help create peace onEarth.
And Mitchell also told TheMirror that other military
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personnel had confided in himabout alien spacecraft actually
disabling nuclear missiles orshooting them down over the
Pacific coast.
So, if they are out there, theyare most definitely watching
and monitoring our progression.
And in an article by Ben Lewisin the Galactic Federation of
Light dated April 7, 2023, hesaid that the Pentagon has
acknowledged the possibility ofa mothership in our solar system
that may possibly be anemissary from a galactic
(28:39):
federation, and he mentions how,according to Luis Elizondo, a
former employee at the DefenseDepartment, claim that there is
evidence that an alien spaceshipmay be watching planet Earth
from a distance.
He based this on data gatheredby the DoD through encounters
with UAPs that were witnessedover the years that suggest a
(29:02):
mothership is close by.
Again, these are unconfirmedclaims, of course, and there's
no evidence to prove otherwise.
However, this is based on whatwe know and not what the
government actually knows andhas yet to inform the public on,
which may never be or may notbe disclosed until a very long
time in the future.
So don't hold your breath.
Joe (29:23):
Yeah, right.
Well, I think Mitchell said itbest when, in Palo Alto,
California, he told theInstitute of Noetic Sciences
this is his quote that fromlooking at Earth from space, you
come up with the question whoare we, how do we get here and
where is it all going?
And that's an ancient, ancientquestion that humans have asked
(29:44):
for a long time.
My experience was to realizethat perhaps our science is
wrong at answering thesequestions and perhaps our
religious cosmologies arearchaic and flawed.
And perhaps our religiouscosmologies are archaic and
flawed and given that now we arean extraterrestrial
civilization ourselves, we needto ask these questions and do a
lot more work to find theanswers.
That's a rather profoundproclamation and, yes, like you
(30:07):
said, when astronauts say thiskind of thing, yeah.
I guess you give it a littlemore, you know, credence there.
I mean it's not.
You know somebody who's youknow never, you know,
experienced space.
I mean these guys actually havegone up there.
They, you know mitchell walkedon the moon.
So I guess smart people yeah,that is extremely, extremely
(30:30):
intelligent.
These guys, you know, tookextremely difficult courses in
engineering and mathematics andaerodynamics, learning flight
operations.
I mean, they were great pilots.
That's why they were chosen tobecome the lunar astronauts.
So, when they say these kindsof things, I'm not saying you
have to buy into it completely,because most of us don't buy
(30:52):
into it completely, most of usdon't.
I'm not saying I have boughtinto it completely either, but
I'm going to lend an ear when Ihear people in certain positions
say it.
It's worth noting.
And, as always, you, theaudience, must decide.
We present you with thediscussion and you decide what
(31:17):
you think.
Are we near to being part of agalactic federation?
Is there such a thing as theGalactic Federation or is this
more or less the fabrication ofstorytellers?
And that will conclude anothergreat discussion, Laurie.
Laurie (31:30):
Yeah, sure was Joe, and I guess only time will tell.
I guess we may not be aroundwhen it all happens, but hey,
who knows, maybe it will.
But anyway, for you all outthere, keep looking to the sky,
everybody.
You just may be thecivilization that one day may
(31:51):
wake up to a galactic federation, revealing itself to the world
and accepting our place amongthe stars.
It's just like what JesusChrist once said in Luke 21: 28
"when these things begin to takeplace, stand up, lift up your
heads, because your redemptionis drawing near.
He even tells us in whichdirection to look.
Matthew 24 (32:09):
7 says for as lightning comes from east; it is
visible even in the west.
So will the coming of the Sonof man.
Joe (32:17):
And also, like how the Apostle Paul states in 1
Thessalonians 5 (32:20):
1-2, "about the dates and times, we do not need
to write to you.
For you know very well that theday of the Lord will come like
a thief in the night.
" And with that we hope you getback with our next episode and
join us for our next episode.
We're going to discuss TallWhites and the Shadow Government
(32:44):
.
Tall whites, not a Starbuckslatte.
Aliens, okay, aliens, if youhaven't already guessed it.
Laurie (32:53):
I think they've already guessed it, Joe.
Thank you for joining us.
Joe (32:58):
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