April 12, 2024 • 29 mins
Johnathon and Shantanell discuss a viral video showcasing the clash of disciplinary styles in a blended family. We peel back the layers of parenting within such complex family units, bringing our own experiences to the table. Settle in as we, alongside our listeners, dissect these intricate dynamics, sharing insights from Johnathon's fatherly perspective on the essential roles communication and respect play between biological parents and stepparents.
Our conversation evolves, examining the generational shifts in discipline and respect, and the ripple effect these have on our children's relationship with authority, from parents to educators. We also open up about how our own upbringing and the habits we've modeled can reflect in our kids' actions – sometimes in ways that take us by surprise. Bridging biblical wisdom with the trials of modern parenting, this episode is an invitation to embrace forgiveness and understanding, as we navigate the often-turbulent waters of raising children in today's blended families. Join us for a heartfelt exploration into the art of discipline, as we aim to build stronger, more resilient family bonds.
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Shantanell (00:08):
Good evening everyone and welcome back to All
Blended Up.
It's your girl, ShantanellLindon and Johnathon Lindon and
we are so grateful for y'all totune back in with us kind of got
on yes, uh, last week withepisode 11, discussing there's
nothing new under the sun, likeand just um, really kind of a
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part two of one of the videos Idid um a few weeks back to
encourage parents, becausesometimes we think our children,
some of the things that they door some of the situations that
they find themselves in, wethink it's the end of the world.
But then when you think aboutthe things that you have done or
you begin to talk to otherparents, you realize they're
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doing the same thing or they'refalling into the same pitfalls,
and I was explaining how Solomon, at the end of his life, he
realized that like, there'snothing new under the sun, and
so what's been done before it'llbe done again, and I think each
generation figures that outonce they begin to get older.
But every child feels as thoughthey're reinventing the wheel,
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and so that was an awesomesegment.
We encourage y'all to go back,check it out, as well as our
other episodes introducingourselves and just some good
stuff that we're putting outthere to help other parents that
may not have had a platformlike this, because I know, when
I started out, especially with ablended family, I didn't really
have a lot of examples.
Most people that I was around,their families wasn't blended,
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and so we just want to be aresource for you guys and we
just hope that you continue totune in and that these segments
are blessing y'all.
So that's it On to what ourepisode is about today.
I have my husband here today totalk about discipline, the
importance of discipline, whatdiscipline is, and just even
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discipline within a blendedfamily unit.
So, babe, welcome back.
Johnathon (02:07):
What's up's up.
What's up how y'all doing todayhi, and so we both.
Shantanell (02:12):
It's so funny because I was on my phone one
day on Facebook scrolling, and Iran across this video where
this mother was confronting her,her child's father's girlfriend
, in a situation where I'massuming the the girlfriend
whooped the child.
And then it's so funny likeprobably a day or two later I'm
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walking past my husband and he'swatching the same video, and so
I was like, oh my goodness, Iwas just watching that video and
I wanted to get his opinion onit.
And um, so I'll just kind ofgive the background of the video
.
So she went over there,confronted the, the young lady,
the mother of the child,basically I guess the child had
got in trouble at her dad'shouse.
The dad wasn't there and so thegirlfriend took it upon herself
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to whoop the child, which themother was upset about.
She was just like you, you know, I didn't give you permission,
you should have called me, youknow.
And she just showed up at theirhouse and so they got into a
confrontation.
The girlfriend was saying oh,you're being dish, your daughter
was being disrespectful, yourdaughter got it so you could get
it to.
And you know, I got realconfrontation, got real heated,
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and although I had my opinionson how both sides handled it.
It just made me think about thewhole idea of discipline and I
wanted to kind of bring it tothe platform because I know that
, if those people were stilltrying to figure it out, that
there's other families out therethat try to figure out how it
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is that you incorporatediscipline, especially in the
confines of a blended family,because discipline can already
have its own.
Everybody does somethingdifferent or views it
differently, I would say, and sowe wanted to just go into
bringing that up to theforefront just to help those
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that may be struggling in acomponent of punishment and
discipline in the confines of ablended family.
So, bae, what was your thoughtswhen you saw that video?
What was some of the things youthought about in how they
handled it or the whole topic ofdiscipline?
Johnathon (04:18):
Well, first, when I first seen it, I had mixed views
of it, because it was actuallythe lady who was doing it, which
most of the time I feel like itwas always the lady.
But I had a situation like thatbefore, and it kind of reminded
me of what I did at thatsituation.
It wasn't that I was sayingthat this person couldn't touch
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my child, or that we couldn'ttouch my child, or that you know
that we couldn't communicate,and stuff like that.
The thing was, at that time wehad split up.
She was talking to somebodyelse that I didn't know.
You know what I'm saying, notsaying I have to, like I have to
actually know this person, butI just wanted to know who she
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was talking to.
You know, like who my child wasgoing to be around's gonna be
around, so she was coming topick him up.
One knows, yes, he was coming topick him up one day and I was
like I break, see, like no, I'ma break, I'm like why not?
Or my friend.
I said, okay, cool, so no, Isaid I just wanted let me make
this do.
Hey, what's up, how you doingthis.
And then and then, you know,over the times, you come pick, I
could probably talk to him likehe been misbehaving, but he was
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smaller then though, but ifthat was the person she would
have been with, you know as hewas growing up me and that guy
can have a conversation.
Hey, just my do's and my don'tsand how you feel about how you
run your house, cause I can'ttell another man how to run his
house.
But what's my like that to menow I'm going to have to talk to
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this man, that's right, andwe're going to have to have a
talk.
So my biggest, I had mixedreviews on it.
So it's like, on the manperspective, I feel like you
know you should be a man and hey, call me or tell the mom, hey,
you need to talk to his daddyand this and that we need to
have a talk.
And on the woman perspective,it's just like I feel like women
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kind of like you say women aremore nurturous.
So I don't feel like she shouldhave put up.
Well, but that's a young ladytoo, yeah.
So that's how I'm looking at ittoo Now, because I don't want
to touch it.
Even with my little girl Iwouldn't want to touch it, yeah,
but as a mother you know whatI'm saying I can kind of
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understand because she knowswhat girls do.
Shantanell (06:40):
Right.
Johnathon (06:40):
And this and that, so I just feel like them.
Parents need to have a sit downbefore anything.
Yes, yes, that's something thatneeds to be spoken about.
Shantanell (06:51):
I agree, be spoken about.
I, I agree, and I feel like themother.
You know I have, uh, like yousay, mixed reviews on it.
You know she came and sheconfronted the young lady and
the dad was saying, well, whyyou didn't call me?
And she was like, well, I didcall you.
So you can see that there's alapse in communication there.
So she's hearing what her childsay.
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A child come home, say, hey,daddy's new girlfriend and
that's one one thing stuck outtoo, like the caption on the
video was like a wife um, whoops, you know, but wife and
girlfriend is a differentdynamic and then also new
girlfriend.
So this is somebody, from thesounds of it, that's just
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entered into this child's lifeand then now you're using like
physical discipline and you knowit sounds like from what the
girlfriend starts saying as theygot into confrontation.
A dad did give her permission,but if it was me in that
situation I would want to havethat okay, but from both parents
, because I want you to feelcomfortable when your child is
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over at my house.
I don't want to just andincorporate punishment.
You know, and that's howconfusion and that kid.
You know kids don't be knowingbut and sometimes they do, I
don't know, at a certain age.
Johnathon (08:12):
I believe that parent , all the parents, need to be
there with the child.
The child 10, 11 years old.
Yes, they understand whatthey're doing, they know who,
they know the adults and theyknow how to uh the disrespect
and the respect part of it.
So that's everybody need tohave a sit down.
That's if you feel that I don'teven care if that's not who you
feel like you're gonna be with,because I can't control who
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you're talking to that's rightyou know so, but every time you
talk to somebody I mean thatperson gonna have to talk yeah,
if they gonna be around yourchild.
It ain't gonna be.
No, I don't know, and I have tofeel.
I also gotta feel out thatperson too, before you be coming
touching my kid no, absolutely,and I think that's only right.
Shantanell (08:51):
What I've noticed and this is just my personal
opinion, because, based on thisvideo, the mother's all upset,
and rightfully so.
She feel like this woman donecrossed the boundary.
And then there was a discussionthat was not hate, and so I
understood her frustration, butthen, at the same time, I feel
like that mother, just based offthe energy she was giving off,
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she don't want the womanwhooping her kid period, and so
that's why, like you say, thecommunication needs to be there,
there needs to be aconversation, and they need to
be.
There, needs to be a discussion.
And then one of the things thatthe dad was saying cuz you know
, he's defending his girlfriend,wife or whomever she was, and
he's just like what?
She was being disrespectful.
And the mama like, well, shedon't disrespect me, she don't
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disrespect me, what are y'alldoing when she's disrespecting
you?
Okay, then how do we establishdiscipline in our home?
What form of punishment can weenforce that makes you
comfortable when a child isn'tbeing disrespectful?
Johnathon (09:49):
That's when them kids start trying to play ball side.
Shantanell (09:51):
Yes.
Johnathon (09:52):
You know what you can get away with here?
If you don't, I'm going to gotell my mom.
Yeah, dad, oh, because youcan't, you know.
Shantanell (09:57):
And parents not parents, but school teachers
have to deal with it.
Because, oh well, you know,you're not my mama, and so we
have to be careful as parents tobe like well, they're not
disrespecting me, what are youknow?
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That's something I think weboth agree on.
Like okay, yeah, you'rerespecting me, but then you're
at the school disrespecting theteacher.
Are you at your auntie housedisrespecting your auntie?
Like that's not okay.
And so, as the mother, I wouldhave had a sit down also with my
child.
I probably would have addressedthe issue, like, hey, man, like
I don't even know, you likethat to be whooping my kid.
But I also will be letting thatchild know, even in my home,
that you don't need to bedisrespecting adults.
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Now, if it's something that'sgoing on that you need to talk
about to me, then you come to meand then I'll talk to that
adult and we, you know, do itthat way.
But you don't be disrespectfulbecause you are setting your
child up for failure.
Because we live in a society,there's rules.
I don't care where you go, youyou're.
You're on the highway, yougotta abide by the rules of that
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highway.
Whether you get away with it 10times speeding, you know, on
i-10, because you know that'sthe freeway where we from.
On i-10 you may get away withit all the time, but it's gonna
be that one time where thatpolice is sitting out in the cut
and you don't see them and theygonna pull you Over and, guess
what, you're gonna get aspeeding ticket.
So we don't want to set ourchildren up for failure, that
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that they can't, um, just bookan authority, and I feel like in
this generation we're seeingthat so often, and so that was
one of the things that I gotfrom that video.
It's like man, yeah, I don'thave an open thing on point of
communication being even on thedad's part.
The mother will say, well, I'vetried to kind.
She kept saying okay, becausehe was like I might be just
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showing up in my house, whyyou're showing up.
She was like I called youanswer the phone and she and he
was like we can have aconversation that I.
She said okay, what else isyour phone when I call you
answer your?
It pertains to the child, soyou could tell that probably a
lot of the confusion could havebeen.
Johnathon (11:57):
It could have, but it started off with the family,
with the mom and the dad too,and that's another thing them
kids see that they're having amiscommunication.
That child's going to have amiscommunication with the next
person.
But let's get deeper into this,because I was just thinking
about something and you saidgeneration, right?
Yeah, so the generation that'sbefore us.
Remember when they say that Iwhooped your butt and then take
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you home and then your parentswill come home and whoop you
again?
Yeah, see, that's whygenerations, things have changed
, because I remember that's whenI was with them, that used to
happen to them and when it gotto us it kind of happened.
Every.
It depends it'll be the certainpeople that can touch us and
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stuff like that.
Then you have some people justdon't touch my child, you don't
touch my child.
And then now is the time thatand I see this a lot and I know
the reason why is because a lotof these parents and I say
myself, now you're 30 years old,a grandfather, a grandmother,
so you got a whole differentperspective of because you, down
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there, you ready to fight withyour kids, a grandma out there
trying to fight with her kid atthe school.
You, 37 years old, 35 years old, you ain't never trying to
fight.
18 years old, because you grewup with this child, you had this
child at 15.
15, 16 years old, and thatchild kind of looking at you and
that child actually lookingolder than you sometimes, and so
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that's another thing.
So it's a generational thingtoo that you have to look at
also because a lot of thesestudents looking older than
these teachers.
So they feel like I don'trespect y'all looking down on
them and stuff like that.
So that's why all thediscipline, all the respect and
everything should start off athome.
Shantanell (13:48):
Absolutely, and I like how you even brought that
point that each generation it'slike different levels of
discipline.
So, like you say, maybe yourgrandmother's generation.
You knew, oh, baby, you'regoing to get it when you,
because you could still paddleback in the day.
So you're getting paddled atthe schoolhouse.
Then when you get home to yourparents, they're going to paddle
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you too.
And so the thing about it iswhen your parents do some things
that you feel like ain't right,you're like, okay, I'm going to
do something different with mykids.
So you know, let's take thepaddling out of the school.
So now the teachers don't haveas much authority or not as
respected as much.
Or maybe you did have that oneteacher you felt like was
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picking on you and your parents.
They just took the teacherteacher side.
So now when your kid coming toyou about stuff, you
automatically I'm gonna defendmy child, I'm gonna be there for
my child, I'm gonna, you know,and your kid really up there,
maybe bucking, and so you reallyhave to get to the bottom of,
like we can go into somethingwith unhealed trauma and then
now we and we're putting it onour kids and we're not helping
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them because just because youhad a bad teacher, don't mean
that teacher lying on your kidor just because your child is a
little angel at home, they upthere bucking or vice versa.
Maybe you do know, like your kid, they across the board the same
way.
And so if this teacher iscoming across to you and saying,
hey, man, these kids doing this, that, and the third, the third
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, you're like, oh no, I know thecharacter of my child.
So it's just really, it'sreally you investigating and you
figuring out things.
You know, really getting to thebottom of things, because we're
seeing it so much in the world,it's so chaotic, and so I want
to kind of shift a little bit.
Babe, like I was before priorto us having this conversation,
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I was, I remember, like a fewmonths ago.
It might have been.
Well, it was last year now,because you know we're at the
beginning of 2024.
I was in this group with mothersand stuff like that, and they
were talking about disciplineand punishment and one of the
things that the lady likepointed out is that in English
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language you kind of usediscipline and punishment
interchangeably and I was like,okay, I never thought about that
and so, honestly, when you inour head.
So I went and looked up whatpunishment meant in the Bible
and what discipline um meant inthe Bible.
So discipline um in the oldtestament meant like iniquity,
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punishment, fault, mischief orsin, and then some other words
was like perversity, depravity,uh, guilt of punishment, and so
when I also looked at what itmeant in the New Testament, it
meant instruction, correction,chasing, chastisement, check,
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bond, doctrine or rebuke.
I was just looking for that.
Johnathon (16:50):
Yes, okay, that's what I was looking for.
Shantanell (16:53):
And what I noticed is when you because I think I
was looking at the KJV, becauseyou know, baba got different
translations.
When you look in othertranslations, like the word
instruction is in the replacefor discipline, and so I think
sometimes we jump straight topunishment, because punishment
when I looked that up it wasabout dang.
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I had it written down but Idon't know what I did with it.
But yeah, punishment is like um, you is it right here?
Hold on y'all.
Yeah, so for punishment, it'scorrection, punishment or
penalty.
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So when you enforcingpunishment, the penalty of
whatever you did is now beingenforced.
But how can you do punishmentif you haven't trained them?
And that's why discipline meansinstruction.
So you're laying the foundation,you're disciplining the child,
you're telling them what to do.
That's just like with a toddler, and I think I used this
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example before.
You're not telling.
You're telling them don't touchthe high stove.
You're setting up thatexpectation like don't touch
that hospital, don't do that.
And then you might have a childthat go over there and touch
the high stove and they figureout it's hot and that's the
penalty Of them going againstyour instruction.
Now you got burnt.
And so sometimes I will say, asparents, we go straight the
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punishment.
We have not taught our children, we have not instructed them,
but we have this expectationthat they supposed to already
know how to do something andI've caught myself doing it.
I'd be like I Can't rememberwhat it was, oh it was, and I
was like God, you use some ofthe simplest things sometimes
with us.
So I had about Joshua Gatorade,but it was like a new way to
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open the top and so I was likeyou can't open that gatorade and
I was just kind of going I'mlike why you can't open it?
You can't open it.
But it wasn't just the screw ontop, it was like.
It was like you flip it and thenyou gotta pull it up yeah and
he didn't know, he had neverheard had that kind of Gatorade
bottle before and so it was like, in that moment, laws like show
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him how to open it yeah, likefussing at him about opening it,
but you haven't showed him howto do it, and I think sometimes
those parents can jump the gunand go straight into the
punishment, but we have notinstructed our children so no,
basically I was gonna get into.
Johnathon (19:32):
I was looking for.
I believe is in some, but I'mjust gonna try to.
I was gonna go to where I go.
I give us instructions.
I always feel like we eitheralready know or we just try to
do it our way.
And God you know, one thing isabout discipline.
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What's the other one?
Discipline and punishment.
Yeah, discipline and punishment.
So it's like when you don't dothe things he asks you to do or
you don't believe like he asksyou to believe in and have that
faith that you do, you alwaysfind yourself in a bind.
Shantanell (20:17):
Yeah.
Johnathon (20:18):
You know it be the simplest thing.
It's just like we do thingsnaturally you know what I'm
saying and not realizing it.
Just like common example bills.
You know you have to pay thesebills at a certain time, but
what you do you're like, oh,I'll just put this off, and then
you get that late payment.
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So now you're paying more thanwhat you.
It's sort of the same thing inlife.
When you don't obey God's word,in the long run you're going to
pay for it.
That's true, and it happens.
We naturally do it.
So one thing that we do, justlike we need the Bible to have
faith.
These kids are looking at usand they're basically having
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faith in us that we do the rightthing so they can go and do the
right thing.
That's right.
But if you don't do right there, they're gonna do what you do
that's right, so you can't blamenobody.
Shantanell (21:09):
You have to look at the mirror and you look at
yourself because the thing aboutit is and we I think we may
have even mentioned this on thepodcast before you get it all
the dodge where it's like don'tdo, don't do as I do, but do as
I say and it's just like nochildren are gonna model what
you do.
You could be telling them allthe right things in the world,
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but they're looking at what youdo.
Think about your toddlers thoseof you who have maybe have a
toddler or kids, you know, justthink back and, like my little
girl, this little girl doeseverything I do and sometimes
it's annoying because like, forinstance, um, I use this example
before she got in my body, butmy brother's just replaced my
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brother again.
Thank you, bro, his girlfriendmakes it and so I left it.
You know, I started cleaning upand I left it sitting on our
couches, half cup holders.
I come back.
She had put two big old clawfingers in my butter again and
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had the body butter all over herhands.
So I had to wash her hands andI'm so mad.
I'm like you know what I got inmy body butter again.
But it's like sis, you didn'tlearn from the first time?
Put it up high, because she seeyou getting lotioned up, she
trying to lotion up, and so Ican tell her don't touch my body
butter, but she's seeing me useit, so in her little mind you
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know she's trying to use it too.
Now, of course, you do have toteach your children boundaries,
like okay, this is for me, thisis for you, that's not for you.
So she see mama doing that,she's trying to do the exact
same thing, and so that's justanother nugget for parents.
Don't sit up here and just betelling your kids the right
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thing to do, but then youractions are displaying something
else and.
Johnathon (23:04):
I also saw like a video one day that don't just go
for the younger kids either,because the older kids, as they
get older, like I, have an 18,you know, jonathan, he 18, but
it's crazy that he's still doingstuff that he see me do.
Why I feel like he's seeing medo it?
because just like he starteddriving.
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Now he got his license, now hedriving.
So I let him drive the car tothe store and came back and you
know how to the car make thesound when the seatbelt in that
buckle, right, yeah.
So I got in the car like afterhe here came from start winning
the car, why he got the seatbeltalready in the bucket so he's
sitting on top of the seatbeltso it won't sound.
Oh my gosh so I remember doingthat before.
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I'm like is this like this?
So you just ain't gonna ridewith the seat?
So it was crazy.
I'm like this dude 18 years oldand you, just you don at the
seatbelt.
So it was crazy.
I'm like this dude, 18 yearsold and you, just you don't want
to arrive at the seatbelt.
But I remember my grandma didnot like because you know, the
top part seemed like going overher chest.
So she used to do that.
So I remember doing it.
Shantanell (24:06):
So you started doing it, now your child doing it,
and that just see the cycle,your grandma been gone, you far
along, and that's something thatdone, been passed down.
Y'all don't know what y'all seeand it's something simple, like
that man, you don't evenrealize it, like it'd be the
little things that we do that I,that our kids can pick up on.
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So it just goes back to thatolder dodge man.
Don't throw that out.
If you want your children tomodel something differently,
then you have to show late daythat that thing and the reality
about it is to, even if you'redoing everything right or you
feel as though you're doingeverything right, this child has
their own mind.
They had a home on, they havetheir own way and they kind of
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got they gotta get out there.
We want to, we want to sparethem, because we feel like I
done been through it.
I don't want you to go throughit you.
So you try to spare them but atthe same time you have to let
them.
Sometimes yes because we do it.
We do it to the lord, like wedo it all the time.
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Like you say god give us aninstruction, which is um,
another word for discipline.
We don't do it, and he may giveus chance after chance, after
chance, after chance afterchance, because the words say
he's long suffering, he don'twant to see anybody perish.
He don't want to see anybodyperish, he don't want to see
anybody be slack of lackinganything.
But then at some point he likeokay, go out there.
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Then you get beat up or whatever.
You start going through things,you see a penalty.
You start to see that theinstructions that are laid out
in the word is not for cause.
Some people be like, oh man,when you get, say you can't do
nothing.
But as I've gotten older, Iunderstand.
Be like, oh man, when you getsaved, you can't do nothing.
But as I've got older, Iunderstand more of the
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instructions that's laid out inthe bible.
It's like it's to help you,like some of this stuff is just
to really help you still is thisa word.
Johnathon (26:04):
Is is to simplify your life.
Shantanell (26:06):
Yeah, to make things simple yes, because when you
let's use um, the, the topic sex, and so a lot of times you know
, when you get to be a teenagerand maybe your parents, they
didn't really talk to you aboutit.
They just told you don't do itor don't have babies or any of
those things, and they didn'treally go into why not.
But the Bible gives youinstructions.
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But look at the consequences.
So many families are like ours.
That is blended and our familyis beautiful.
I wouldn't trade it foranything.
But the thing about it is lookat what comes with it.
Going back to the example thatwe used at the beginning of the
podcast, now it's so many movingpieces.
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Okay, let me make sure if Idiscipline my stepson, you know
I'm not stepping on no toes withum, my um son's mothers or
something like that.
Or make sure that you know myhusband's okay with whatever
discipline I'm enforcing orwhatever the case may be when it
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wouldn't even be all of that ifeverybody you know was just.
You know it wasn't like um,step parents or step kids and
all of that different type ofstuff.
And so the lord, when he putthese things in place, it was
for your good, because he don'twant you to have to go through
things.
Or and then let's just behonest, some people got what we
call baby mama, baby daddy drama.
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So you trying to move on andyou're trying to co-parent,
correctly, but the other onethey just spazzing out, and so
now you're having a deal withsomething that you wouldn't have
to deal with if you had afollow the Instructions that the
Lord laid out to say, hey, waitup, wait until you get married,
have kids within the confinesof a marriage and I know it's
gonna be those naysayers outthere how people get the boys.
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That is true too.
But a lot of times it's notbecause somebody got a divorce
that there's in the they're in ablended family.
It's because you had agirlfriend or a boyfriend and
y'all was fornicating and a babycame as a result.
Then you broke up because itdidn't last forever.
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Now a person that you know isno longer that otherwise you
wouldn't have had in your life,now you are attached, you're
tethered to that person for therest of your life Because y'all
have a common person and that'syour child.
But thank God that he ismerciful, thank God that he is a
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forgiving God.
But I just wanted to bring thatup because God gives us
instructions.
He disciplines us.
He has these instructions laidout for us to make our lives,
like my husband say, most simple.
We complicate things and thenwe be mad like dang, and then we
go back to the Lord complainingand the Lord like I didn't tell
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you to get in, that you didthat.
Johnathon (28:55):
You made that choice.
He gave you to get in that.
You did that.
You made that choice give youfree will.
Shantanell (28:58):
There you go.
I was just about to say that.
And we give you free, I giveyou free will.
I'm not gonna jump down yourthroat.
I want you to obey my laws andmy rules because you want to
obey them, not because I'm downyour throat with it.
And and so, man, you have achoice not to.
Yeah, no, thanks.
So anything else you wanted toadd?
Johnathon (29:18):
No, that's everything .
Thank y'all for listening to ustonight, and well, this evening
, and we enjoy you Until nexttime.
My name is Johnathan Lindon andShantanell Lindon, with All
Blended Up.
Bye-bye.
Good evening everyone and welcome back to All
Blended Up.
It's your girl, ShantanellLindon and Johnathon Lindon and
we are so grateful for y'all totune back in with us kind of got
on yes, uh, last week withepisode 11, discussing there's
nothing new under the sun, likeand just um, really kind of a
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part two of one of the videos Idid um a few weeks back to
encourage parents, becausesometimes we think our children,
some of the things that they door some of the situations that
they find themselves in, wethink it's the end of the world.
But then when you think aboutthe things that you have done or
you begin to talk to otherparents, you realize they're
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doing the same thing or they'refalling into the same pitfalls,
and I was explaining how Solomon, at the end of his life, he
realized that like, there'snothing new under the sun, and
so what's been done before it'llbe done again, and I think each
generation figures that outonce they begin to get older.
But every child feels as thoughthey're reinventing the wheel,
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and so that was an awesomesegment.
We encourage y'all to go back,check it out, as well as our
other episodes introducingourselves and just some good
stuff that we're putting outthere to help other parents that
may not have had a platformlike this, because I know, when
I started out, especially with ablended family, I didn't really
have a lot of examples.
Most people that I was around,their families wasn't blended,
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and so we just want to be aresource for you guys and we
just hope that you continue totune in and that these segments
are blessing y'all.
So that's it On to what ourepisode is about today.
I have my husband here today totalk about discipline, the
importance of discipline, whatdiscipline is, and just even
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discipline within a blendedfamily unit.
So, babe, welcome back.
Johnathon (02:07):
What's up's up.
What's up how y'all doing todayhi, and so we both.
Shantanell (02:12):
It's so funny because I was on my phone one
day on Facebook scrolling, and Iran across this video where
this mother was confronting her,her child's father's girlfriend
, in a situation where I'massuming the the girlfriend
whooped the child.
And then it's so funny likeprobably a day or two later I'm
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walking past my husband and he'swatching the same video, and so
I was like, oh my goodness, Iwas just watching that video and
I wanted to get his opinion onit.
And um, so I'll just kind ofgive the background of the video
.
So she went over there,confronted the, the young lady,
the mother of the child,basically I guess the child had
got in trouble at her dad'shouse.
The dad wasn't there and so thegirlfriend took it upon herself
(02:59):
to whoop the child, which themother was upset about.
She was just like you, you know, I didn't give you permission,
you should have called me, youknow.
And she just showed up at theirhouse and so they got into a
confrontation.
The girlfriend was saying oh,you're being dish, your daughter
was being disrespectful, yourdaughter got it so you could get
it to.
And you know, I got realconfrontation, got real heated,
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and although I had my opinionson how both sides handled it.
It just made me think about thewhole idea of discipline and I
wanted to kind of bring it tothe platform because I know that
, if those people were stilltrying to figure it out, that
there's other families out therethat try to figure out how it
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is that you incorporatediscipline, especially in the
confines of a blended family,because discipline can already
have its own.
Everybody does somethingdifferent or views it
differently, I would say, and sowe wanted to just go into
bringing that up to theforefront just to help those
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that may be struggling in acomponent of punishment and
discipline in the confines of ablended family.
So, bae, what was your thoughtswhen you saw that video?
What was some of the things youthought about in how they
handled it or the whole topic ofdiscipline?
Johnathon (04:18):
Well, first, when I first seen it, I had mixed views
of it, because it was actuallythe lady who was doing it, which
most of the time I feel like itwas always the lady.
But I had a situation like thatbefore, and it kind of reminded
me of what I did at thatsituation.
It wasn't that I was sayingthat this person couldn't touch
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my child, or that we couldn'ttouch my child, or that you know
that we couldn't communicate,and stuff like that.
The thing was, at that time wehad split up.
She was talking to somebodyelse that I didn't know.
You know what I'm saying, notsaying I have to, like I have to
actually know this person, butI just wanted to know who she
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was talking to.
You know, like who my child wasgoing to be around's gonna be
around, so she was coming topick him up.
One knows, yes, he was coming topick him up one day and I was
like I break, see, like no, I'ma break, I'm like why not?
Or my friend.
I said, okay, cool, so no, Isaid I just wanted let me make
this do.
Hey, what's up, how you doingthis.
And then and then, you know,over the times, you come pick, I
could probably talk to him likehe been misbehaving, but he was
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smaller then though, but ifthat was the person she would
have been with, you know as hewas growing up me and that guy
can have a conversation.
Hey, just my do's and my don'tsand how you feel about how you
run your house, cause I can'ttell another man how to run his
house.
But what's my like that to menow I'm going to have to talk to
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this man, that's right, andwe're going to have to have a
talk.
So my biggest, I had mixedreviews on it.
So it's like, on the manperspective, I feel like you
know you should be a man and hey, call me or tell the mom, hey,
you need to talk to his daddyand this and that we need to
have a talk.
And on the woman perspective,it's just like I feel like women
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kind of like you say women aremore nurturous.
So I don't feel like she shouldhave put up.
Well, but that's a young ladytoo, yeah.
So that's how I'm looking at ittoo Now, because I don't want
to touch it.
Even with my little girl Iwouldn't want to touch it, yeah,
but as a mother you know whatI'm saying I can kind of
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understand because she knowswhat girls do.
Shantanell (06:40):
Right.
Johnathon (06:40):
And this and that, so I just feel like them.
Parents need to have a sit downbefore anything.
Yes, yes, that's something thatneeds to be spoken about.
Shantanell (06:51):
I agree, be spoken about.
I, I agree, and I feel like themother.
You know I have, uh, like yousay, mixed reviews on it.
You know she came and sheconfronted the young lady and
the dad was saying, well, whyyou didn't call me?
And she was like, well, I didcall you.
So you can see that there's alapse in communication there.
So she's hearing what her childsay.
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A child come home, say, hey,daddy's new girlfriend and
that's one one thing stuck outtoo, like the caption on the
video was like a wife um, whoops, you know, but wife and
girlfriend is a differentdynamic and then also new
girlfriend.
So this is somebody, from thesounds of it, that's just
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entered into this child's lifeand then now you're using like
physical discipline and you knowit sounds like from what the
girlfriend starts saying as theygot into confrontation.
A dad did give her permission,but if it was me in that
situation I would want to havethat okay, but from both parents
, because I want you to feelcomfortable when your child is
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over at my house.
I don't want to just andincorporate punishment.
You know, and that's howconfusion and that kid.
You know kids don't be knowingbut and sometimes they do, I
don't know, at a certain age.
Johnathon (08:12):
I believe that parent , all the parents, need to be
there with the child.
The child 10, 11 years old.
Yes, they understand whatthey're doing, they know who,
they know the adults and theyknow how to uh the disrespect
and the respect part of it.
So that's everybody need tohave a sit down.
That's if you feel that I don'teven care if that's not who you
feel like you're gonna be with,because I can't control who
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you're talking to that's rightyou know so, but every time you
talk to somebody I mean thatperson gonna have to talk yeah,
if they gonna be around yourchild.
It ain't gonna be.
No, I don't know, and I have tofeel.
I also gotta feel out thatperson too, before you be coming
touching my kid no, absolutely,and I think that's only right.
Shantanell (08:51):
What I've noticed and this is just my personal
opinion, because, based on thisvideo, the mother's all upset,
and rightfully so.
She feel like this woman donecrossed the boundary.
And then there was a discussionthat was not hate, and so I
understood her frustration, butthen, at the same time, I feel
like that mother, just based offthe energy she was giving off,
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she don't want the womanwhooping her kid period, and so
that's why, like you say, thecommunication needs to be there,
there needs to be aconversation, and they need to
be.
There, needs to be a discussion.
And then one of the things thatthe dad was saying cuz you know
, he's defending his girlfriend,wife or whomever she was, and
he's just like what?
She was being disrespectful.
And the mama like, well, shedon't disrespect me, she don't
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disrespect me, what are y'alldoing when she's disrespecting
you?
Okay, then how do we establishdiscipline in our home?
What form of punishment can weenforce that makes you
comfortable when a child isn'tbeing disrespectful?
Johnathon (09:49):
That's when them kids start trying to play ball side.
Shantanell (09:51):
Yes.
Johnathon (09:52):
You know what you can get away with here?
If you don't, I'm going to gotell my mom.
Yeah, dad, oh, because youcan't, you know.
Shantanell (09:57):
And parents not parents, but school teachers
have to deal with it.
Because, oh well, you know,you're not my mama, and so we
have to be careful as parents tobe like well, they're not
disrespecting me, what are youknow?
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That's something I think weboth agree on.
Like okay, yeah, you'rerespecting me, but then you're
at the school disrespecting theteacher.
Are you at your auntie housedisrespecting your auntie?
Like that's not okay.
And so, as the mother, I wouldhave had a sit down also with my
child.
I probably would have addressedthe issue, like, hey, man, like
I don't even know, you likethat to be whooping my kid.
But I also will be letting thatchild know, even in my home,
that you don't need to bedisrespecting adults.
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Now, if it's something that'sgoing on that you need to talk
about to me, then you come to meand then I'll talk to that
adult and we, you know, do itthat way.
But you don't be disrespectfulbecause you are setting your
child up for failure.
Because we live in a society,there's rules.
I don't care where you go, youyou're.
You're on the highway, yougotta abide by the rules of that
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highway.
Whether you get away with it 10times speeding, you know, on
i-10, because you know that'sthe freeway where we from.
On i-10 you may get away withit all the time, but it's gonna
be that one time where thatpolice is sitting out in the cut
and you don't see them and theygonna pull you Over and, guess
what, you're gonna get aspeeding ticket.
So we don't want to set ourchildren up for failure, that
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that they can't, um, just bookan authority, and I feel like in
this generation we're seeingthat so often, and so that was
one of the things that I gotfrom that video.
It's like man, yeah, I don'thave an open thing on point of
communication being even on thedad's part.
The mother will say, well, I'vetried to kind.
She kept saying okay, becausehe was like I might be just
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showing up in my house, whyyou're showing up.
She was like I called youanswer the phone and she and he
was like we can have aconversation that I.
She said okay, what else isyour phone when I call you
answer your?
It pertains to the child, soyou could tell that probably a
lot of the confusion could havebeen.
Johnathon (11:57):
It could have, but it started off with the family,
with the mom and the dad too,and that's another thing them
kids see that they're having amiscommunication.
That child's going to have amiscommunication with the next
person.
But let's get deeper into this,because I was just thinking
about something and you saidgeneration, right?
Yeah, so the generation that'sbefore us.
Remember when they say that Iwhooped your butt and then take
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you home and then your parentswill come home and whoop you
again?
Yeah, see, that's whygenerations, things have changed
, because I remember that's whenI was with them, that used to
happen to them and when it gotto us it kind of happened.
Every.
It depends it'll be the certainpeople that can touch us and
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stuff like that.
Then you have some people justdon't touch my child, you don't
touch my child.
And then now is the time thatand I see this a lot and I know
the reason why is because a lotof these parents and I say
myself, now you're 30 years old,a grandfather, a grandmother,
so you got a whole differentperspective of because you, down
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there, you ready to fight withyour kids, a grandma out there
trying to fight with her kid atthe school.
You, 37 years old, 35 years old, you ain't never trying to
fight.
18 years old, because you grewup with this child, you had this
child at 15.
15, 16 years old, and thatchild kind of looking at you and
that child actually lookingolder than you sometimes, and so
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that's another thing.
So it's a generational thingtoo that you have to look at
also because a lot of thesestudents looking older than
these teachers.
So they feel like I don'trespect y'all looking down on
them and stuff like that.
So that's why all thediscipline, all the respect and
everything should start off athome.
Shantanell (13:48):
Absolutely, and I like how you even brought that
point that each generation it'slike different levels of
discipline.
So, like you say, maybe yourgrandmother's generation.
You knew, oh, baby, you'regoing to get it when you,
because you could still paddleback in the day.
So you're getting paddled atthe schoolhouse.
Then when you get home to yourparents, they're going to paddle
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you too.
And so the thing about it iswhen your parents do some things
that you feel like ain't right,you're like, okay, I'm going to
do something different with mykids.
So you know, let's take thepaddling out of the school.
So now the teachers don't haveas much authority or not as
respected as much.
Or maybe you did have that oneteacher you felt like was
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picking on you and your parents.
They just took the teacherteacher side.
So now when your kid coming toyou about stuff, you
automatically I'm gonna defendmy child, I'm gonna be there for
my child, I'm gonna, you know,and your kid really up there,
maybe bucking, and so you reallyhave to get to the bottom of,
like we can go into somethingwith unhealed trauma and then
now we and we're putting it onour kids and we're not helping
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them because just because youhad a bad teacher, don't mean
that teacher lying on your kidor just because your child is a
little angel at home, they upthere bucking or vice versa.
Maybe you do know, like your kid, they across the board the same
way.
And so if this teacher iscoming across to you and saying,
hey, man, these kids doing this, that, and the third, the third
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, you're like, oh no, I know thecharacter of my child.
So it's just really, it'sreally you investigating and you
figuring out things.
You know, really getting to thebottom of things, because we're
seeing it so much in the world,it's so chaotic, and so I want
to kind of shift a little bit.
Babe, like I was before priorto us having this conversation,
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I was, I remember, like a fewmonths ago.
It might have been.
Well, it was last year now,because you know we're at the
beginning of 2024.
I was in this group with mothersand stuff like that, and they
were talking about disciplineand punishment and one of the
things that the lady likepointed out is that in English
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language you kind of usediscipline and punishment
interchangeably and I was like,okay, I never thought about that
and so, honestly, when you inour head.
So I went and looked up whatpunishment meant in the Bible
and what discipline um meant inthe Bible.
So discipline um in the oldtestament meant like iniquity,
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punishment, fault, mischief orsin, and then some other words
was like perversity, depravity,uh, guilt of punishment, and so
when I also looked at what itmeant in the New Testament, it
meant instruction, correction,chasing, chastisement, check,
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bond, doctrine or rebuke.
I was just looking for that.
Johnathon (16:50):
Yes, okay, that's what I was looking for.
Shantanell (16:53):
And what I noticed is when you because I think I
was looking at the KJV, becauseyou know, baba got different
translations.
When you look in othertranslations, like the word
instruction is in the replacefor discipline, and so I think
sometimes we jump straight topunishment, because punishment
when I looked that up it wasabout dang.
(17:17):
I had it written down but Idon't know what I did with it.
But yeah, punishment is like um, you is it right here?
Hold on y'all.
Yeah, so for punishment, it'scorrection, punishment or
penalty.
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So when you enforcingpunishment, the penalty of
whatever you did is now beingenforced.
But how can you do punishmentif you haven't trained them?
And that's why discipline meansinstruction.
So you're laying the foundation,you're disciplining the child,
you're telling them what to do.
That's just like with a toddler, and I think I used this
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example before.
You're not telling.
You're telling them don't touchthe high stove.
You're setting up thatexpectation like don't touch
that hospital, don't do that.
And then you might have a childthat go over there and touch
the high stove and they figureout it's hot and that's the
penalty Of them going againstyour instruction.
Now you got burnt.
And so sometimes I will say, asparents, we go straight the
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punishment.
We have not taught our children, we have not instructed them,
but we have this expectationthat they supposed to already
know how to do something andI've caught myself doing it.
I'd be like I Can't rememberwhat it was, oh it was, and I
was like God, you use some ofthe simplest things sometimes
with us.
So I had about Joshua Gatorade,but it was like a new way to
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open the top and so I was likeyou can't open that gatorade and
I was just kind of going I'mlike why you can't open it?
You can't open it.
But it wasn't just the screw ontop, it was like.
It was like you flip it and thenyou gotta pull it up yeah and
he didn't know, he had neverheard had that kind of Gatorade
bottle before and so it was like, in that moment, laws like show
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him how to open it yeah, likefussing at him about opening it,
but you haven't showed him howto do it, and I think sometimes
those parents can jump the gunand go straight into the
punishment, but we have notinstructed our children so no,
basically I was gonna get into.
Johnathon (19:32):
I was looking for.
I believe is in some, but I'mjust gonna try to.
I was gonna go to where I go.
I give us instructions.
I always feel like we eitheralready know or we just try to
do it our way.
And God you know, one thing isabout discipline.
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What's the other one?
Discipline and punishment.
Yeah, discipline and punishment.
So it's like when you don't dothe things he asks you to do or
you don't believe like he asksyou to believe in and have that
faith that you do, you alwaysfind yourself in a bind.
Shantanell (20:17):
Yeah.
Johnathon (20:18):
You know it be the simplest thing.
It's just like we do thingsnaturally you know what I'm
saying and not realizing it.
Just like common example bills.
You know you have to pay thesebills at a certain time, but
what you do you're like, oh,I'll just put this off, and then
you get that late payment.
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So now you're paying more thanwhat you.
It's sort of the same thing inlife.
When you don't obey God's word,in the long run you're going to
pay for it.
That's true, and it happens.
We naturally do it.
So one thing that we do, justlike we need the Bible to have
faith.
These kids are looking at usand they're basically having
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faith in us that we do the rightthing so they can go and do the
right thing.
That's right.
But if you don't do right there, they're gonna do what you do
that's right, so you can't blamenobody.
Shantanell (21:09):
You have to look at the mirror and you look at
yourself because the thing aboutit is and we I think we may
have even mentioned this on thepodcast before you get it all
the dodge where it's like don'tdo, don't do as I do, but do as
I say and it's just like nochildren are gonna model what
you do.
You could be telling them allthe right things in the world,
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but they're looking at what youdo.
Think about your toddlers thoseof you who have maybe have a
toddler or kids, you know, justthink back and, like my little
girl, this little girl doeseverything I do and sometimes
it's annoying because like, forinstance, um, I use this example
before she got in my body, butmy brother's just replaced my
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brother again.
Thank you, bro, his girlfriendmakes it and so I left it.
You know, I started cleaning upand I left it sitting on our
couches, half cup holders.
I come back.
She had put two big old clawfingers in my butter again and
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had the body butter all over herhands.
So I had to wash her hands andI'm so mad.
I'm like you know what I got inmy body butter again.
But it's like sis, you didn'tlearn from the first time?
Put it up high, because she seeyou getting lotioned up, she
trying to lotion up, and so Ican tell her don't touch my body
butter, but she's seeing me useit, so in her little mind you
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know she's trying to use it too.
Now, of course, you do have toteach your children boundaries,
like okay, this is for me, thisis for you, that's not for you.
So she see mama doing that,she's trying to do the exact
same thing, and so that's justanother nugget for parents.
Don't sit up here and just betelling your kids the right
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thing to do, but then youractions are displaying something
else and.
Johnathon (23:04):
I also saw like a video one day that don't just go
for the younger kids either,because the older kids, as they
get older, like I, have an 18,you know, jonathan, he 18, but
it's crazy that he's still doingstuff that he see me do.
Why I feel like he's seeing medo it?
because just like he starteddriving.
(23:25):
Now he got his license, now hedriving.
So I let him drive the car tothe store and came back and you
know how to the car make thesound when the seatbelt in that
buckle, right, yeah.
So I got in the car like afterhe here came from start winning
the car, why he got the seatbeltalready in the bucket so he's
sitting on top of the seatbeltso it won't sound.
Oh my gosh so I remember doingthat before.
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I'm like is this like this?
So you just ain't gonna ridewith the seat?
So it was crazy.
I'm like this dude 18 years oldand you, just you don at the
seatbelt.
So it was crazy.
I'm like this dude, 18 yearsold and you, just you don't want
to arrive at the seatbelt.
But I remember my grandma didnot like because you know, the
top part seemed like going overher chest.
So she used to do that.
So I remember doing it.
Shantanell (24:06):
So you started doing it, now your child doing it,
and that just see the cycle,your grandma been gone, you far
along, and that's something thatdone, been passed down.
Y'all don't know what y'all seeand it's something simple, like
that man, you don't evenrealize it, like it'd be the
little things that we do that I,that our kids can pick up on.
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So it just goes back to thatolder dodge man.
Don't throw that out.
If you want your children tomodel something differently,
then you have to show late daythat that thing and the reality
about it is to, even if you'redoing everything right or you
feel as though you're doingeverything right, this child has
their own mind.
They had a home on, they havetheir own way and they kind of
(24:53):
got they gotta get out there.
We want to, we want to sparethem, because we feel like I
done been through it.
I don't want you to go throughit you.
So you try to spare them but atthe same time you have to let
them.
Sometimes yes because we do it.
We do it to the lord, like wedo it all the time.
(25:14):
Like you say god give us aninstruction, which is um,
another word for discipline.
We don't do it, and he may giveus chance after chance, after
chance, after chance afterchance, because the words say
he's long suffering, he don'twant to see anybody perish.
He don't want to see anybodyperish, he don't want to see
anybody be slack of lackinganything.
But then at some point he likeokay, go out there.
(25:37):
Then you get beat up or whatever.
You start going through things,you see a penalty.
You start to see that theinstructions that are laid out
in the word is not for cause.
Some people be like, oh man,when you get, say you can't do
nothing.
But as I've gotten older, Iunderstand.
Be like, oh man, when you getsaved, you can't do nothing.
But as I've got older, Iunderstand more of the
(25:58):
instructions that's laid out inthe bible.
It's like it's to help you,like some of this stuff is just
to really help you still is thisa word.
Johnathon (26:04):
Is is to simplify your life.
Shantanell (26:06):
Yeah, to make things simple yes, because when you
let's use um, the, the topic sex, and so a lot of times you know
, when you get to be a teenagerand maybe your parents, they
didn't really talk to you aboutit.
They just told you don't do itor don't have babies or any of
those things, and they didn'treally go into why not.
But the Bible gives youinstructions.
(26:26):
But look at the consequences.
So many families are like ours.
That is blended and our familyis beautiful.
I wouldn't trade it foranything.
But the thing about it is lookat what comes with it.
Going back to the example thatwe used at the beginning of the
podcast, now it's so many movingpieces.
(26:47):
Okay, let me make sure if Idiscipline my stepson, you know
I'm not stepping on no toes withum, my um son's mothers or
something like that.
Or make sure that you know myhusband's okay with whatever
discipline I'm enforcing orwhatever the case may be when it
(27:08):
wouldn't even be all of that ifeverybody you know was just.
You know it wasn't like um,step parents or step kids and
all of that different type ofstuff.
And so the lord, when he putthese things in place, it was
for your good, because he don'twant you to have to go through
things.
Or and then let's just behonest, some people got what we
call baby mama, baby daddy drama.
(27:29):
So you trying to move on andyou're trying to co-parent,
correctly, but the other onethey just spazzing out, and so
now you're having a deal withsomething that you wouldn't have
to deal with if you had afollow the Instructions that the
Lord laid out to say, hey, waitup, wait until you get married,
have kids within the confinesof a marriage and I know it's
gonna be those naysayers outthere how people get the boys.
(27:49):
That is true too.
But a lot of times it's notbecause somebody got a divorce
that there's in the they're in ablended family.
It's because you had agirlfriend or a boyfriend and
y'all was fornicating and a babycame as a result.
Then you broke up because itdidn't last forever.
(28:10):
Now a person that you know isno longer that otherwise you
wouldn't have had in your life,now you are attached, you're
tethered to that person for therest of your life Because y'all
have a common person and that'syour child.
But thank God that he ismerciful, thank God that he is a
(28:31):
forgiving God.
But I just wanted to bring thatup because God gives us
instructions.
He disciplines us.
He has these instructions laidout for us to make our lives,
like my husband say, most simple.
We complicate things and thenwe be mad like dang, and then we
go back to the Lord complainingand the Lord like I didn't tell
(28:52):
you to get in, that you didthat.
Johnathon (28:55):
You made that choice.
He gave you to get in that.
You did that.
You made that choice give youfree will.
Shantanell (28:58):
There you go.
I was just about to say that.
And we give you free, I giveyou free will.
I'm not gonna jump down yourthroat.
I want you to obey my laws andmy rules because you want to
obey them, not because I'm downyour throat with it.
And and so, man, you have achoice not to.
Yeah, no, thanks.
So anything else you wanted toadd?
Johnathon (29:18):
No, that's everything .
Thank y'all for listening to ustonight, and well, this evening
, and we enjoy you Until nexttime.
My name is Johnathan Lindon andShantanell Lindon, with All
Blended Up.
Bye-bye.
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