All Episodes

November 30, 2021 93 mins

The guest for this episode is a Jordanian refugee we call “Samir.” After converting to Christianity as a teenager, he was questioned by the secret police and forced to flee the 97% Sunni Muslim country because of threats to his life and his family. In this in-depth conversation, Samir discussed his experience of how 14 centuries of culture, poverty, and ignorance have fed a distorted view of God that has led to suffering, hate, and war. 

He also reflects on the American intervention in Afghanistan, how the figure of Jesus is perceived by other religions in the Middle East, and how the Christian ideals of human dignity, human rights, and freedom have the potential to change a centuries-old culture of fear. As Samir says, “Christianity is the only faith in the word that tells people, ‘I don't care about your performance. I love you regardless of your performance.’”

Hosted by: Jim Lyon

SUBSCRIBE to the All That To Say podcast on YouTube (http://youtube.com/allthattosaypodcast​) or wherever you listen to podcasts.

- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/all-that-to-say/id1555624956

- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7jDZ3gy653r3jhyS8mWXF2?si=rRo81YRZTF6Zmg2hnPqf5Q&nd=1 FOLLOW the conversation and like us on social media:

- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AllThatToSayPodcast

- Twitter: https://twitter.com/AllThatToSay​

- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/allthattosaypodcast/

LEARN MORE about the podcast online: http://www.allthattosay.org/​

#AllThatToSay​

Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Therapy Gecko

Therapy Gecko

An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.