September 8, 2025 • 57 mins
What if the secret to aging beautifully lies deeper than your skincare routine? Dr. Missy Clifton, board-certified dermatologist and founder of Premier Aesthetics, joins us to reveal the cutting-edge approaches transforming aesthetic medicine.
From her humble beginnings in a small Arkansas strip mall to building a thriving practice with over 100 employees, Dr. Clifton shares the wisdom gained from nearly two decades at the forefront of dermatology. Her upcoming expansion to the Walmart Global Home Campus marks another milestone in her remarkable journey.
Dr. Clifton takes us deep into the science behind today's most innovative treatments. She explains why Softwave's colorblind technology represents a breakthrough for skin tightening, how platelet-derived growth factor is revolutionizing tear trough treatments, and why her approach to neuromodulators involves using multiple products within a single face. Her insights on nanotechnology preview her upcoming skincare line that creates reservoirs of active ingredients beneath the skin's surface.
Most compelling is Dr. Clifton's holistic philosophy that true beauty begins from within. She shares her personal regimen of peptide therapy, revealing how injectable compounds like BPC-157 and copper peptides have transformed not just her skin but her overall health. This inside-out approach represents what she believes is the future of aesthetic medicine—treating the whole body so your outward appearance reflects internal wellness.
Whether you're considering your first aesthetic treatment or looking to optimize your current regimen, Dr. Clifton's preventative approach offers valuable guidance for anyone seeking natural-looking results that improve with time. Listen now to discover why starting early with small, consistent interventions yields better outcomes than waiting until significant aging has occurred.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Beauty Formula.
Today, we are joined with DrMisty Clifton, who's one of my
absolute favorite people on theplanet, and she is a
board-certified dermatologist atPremier Esthetics.
Hey, misty.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, sweet girl, I am so glad to be on this with you.
I'm so honored that you wantedme to come join you today.
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm sure you're sick of hearing the story, but every
time I see you I tell you abouthow you're my favorite and how
I've been stalking you.
And it was.
We went, we both were at I meanthis must have been 15 years
ago at a skin care thing andthey had all of these big
dermatologists and stuff.
And then you were little andyou walked up there and you told
him what you did and you mademore money than all of them and
(00:40):
I just remember we were all justlooking around thinking she's
doing it right and I just lovedyou ever since then.
Oh, sweet girl, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Thank you, I'm good.
You know the struggle is real.
Coming from Arkansas, I mean,half of the universe doesn't
even know where Arkansas is, soI mean they're like, where's
that?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Who are you?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I get it confused with Arizona a little bit.
Well, everybody does so it'sA-R, not A-Z, you know.
So it's a thing.
Nobody knows where I am and youknow, kind of that's maybe okay
because I'm sneaking in underthe radar.
I know, I know Well how isArkansas?
Arkansas is hot as Hades rightnow.
It is humid, humid, humid, andArkansas summers are not the
(01:23):
best.
So I mean, it's not any coolerwhere you are in Austin though.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
right yeah, it's not cool, but I heard Arkansas is
like starting to boom.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Honey.
They are saying thatBentonville, Arkansas, is about
to be the new Austin.
I know.
So I'm like cool, because Ilove Austin.
Yeah, I know I'm coming.
I'm coming to visit you.
We got to make that happenbecause you and I need to hang
out.
I miss your face and I misshanging out with you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I was already thinking you need to come for
like ACL weekend, one of the bigweekends that would be perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Let's make it happen.
I'll show you the ropes.
That would be so good, baby.
That would be so good.
The only time I've ever been toAustin actually is for a
lacrosse tournament, and thatwas less than optimal.
Let's make, let's, let's do itbetter than that?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yes, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Let's do that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, so tell me what's been going on work-wise,
all things skin All things skinis going really well.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So you know, we're centered in Bentonville,
arkansas, which is kind of.
Our claim to fame is that ourtown is the home of Walmart,
right, right, so Walmart justbuilt this.
They're in the process ofbuilding this ridiculous global
campus that is acres and acresof you know all of the thing,
all things Walmart, and they'rebringing people back.
(02:38):
You know, during COVID, a lotof Walmart people just started
working from home and nowthey're bringing everybody back
to the home campus and they'rebringing in really amazing
retail.
They're bringing in restaurants.
They're bringing in you knowthings that the people that work
at Walmart can really benefitfrom, and guests who they ask to
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be on the home campus.
No really so we are the onlymedical provider on the Walmart
Global Home Campus and I amlosing my mind about it.
I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Like now or starting when.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So we are finishing out the space.
We think by January we will beopening up and so we'll be doing
dermatology services there,we'll be doing all of our lasers
aesthetic services, skin care,of course, doing all of our
lasers, aesthetic services,skincare of course, and all of
that there.
So, yeah, we're just we'rebuilding and growing.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's incredible.
Congratulations, thank you.
So are you the only doctorright now at your?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
clinic.
So no, it's me and DrCunningham is my main partner.
She is amazing.
She's much younger than me butshe is so, so excited about, you
know, all things skin andreally she's into skincare,
she's into lasers.
She's just really jumped in asa partner.
She's been four years.
(03:57):
It's a three-year buy-in at ourclinic and she's just jumped in
as a partner.
And boy am I glad to have herbecause she is amazing and we
have a lot of laser techs andestheticians and you know
everything's going really well.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
But boy is it nice to have someone else that wants to
run the business side of it,because that's the hard part, as
you know she's wanting to runthe oh, so she yeah, right,
she's a partner, she's going tohelp me out with all of that
stuff, honey, it's huge, it'shuge, and she is just can't wait
for you to meet her.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
She is the coolest, sweetest, so much fun.
She did her training in in NewOrleans, so she's our next trip
is for her to take me to MardiGras, so you might want to join
us, you might want to join us?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, I'd be great.
I grew up 45 minutes from NewOrleans, so I'm very close.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh my gosh, you guys would have so much in common.
We got to get y'all together.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We'll talk about that I do.
Well, that's awesome.
And wait, did you start like anew, like laser line or
something too?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know, we have about a year.
Well, it's a little bit morethan that now I can't even keep
up with time anymore, courtneybut we built on a whole laser
section to premiere.
You know, I started doinglasers at the beginning, but now
(05:12):
I have like four laser techs.
I have, like you know, threeestheticians and all these nurse
injectors and PAs and all ofthese people now that are my
extenders and we just have thisincredible family of people that
are so excited about innovation, so excited about staying on
the cutting edge of things.
And that's, you know, that'swhere I think we have this
kindred spirit.
You and I, we just love to beon the cutting edge of all
(05:33):
things new and skincare.
And, yeah, that's why I wasjust obsessed with you when I
first met you.
Besides, your style and yourjust amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, you know I'm kind of lack on lasers.
What like?
What's your favorite laserright now?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh, my goodness, I would say Softwave.
It's not really a laser, it'sactually an ultrasound device.
So it's an ultrasound heatingdevice that tightens tissue.
It's colorblind, so it doesn'tmatter how dark your skin is.
You can be tan or not tan.
And you know in Arkansas andAustin, austin everybody in
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summer, even if they're wearingtheir sunscreen, they're tan.
So a lot of laser treatmentsyou really can't do, and
softwave bulk heats the dermisand so it tightens.
It's crazy, courtney, I had itdone before I bought the device.
I'm like do my one, you know,lazy eye, because I have a.
We all have a side that's worsethan the other and literally my
lazy eye matched my good eyeafter the treatment, like on the
table.
(06:31):
On the table I already saw theelevation.
It was amazing.
I actually had that laser done.
It's been a little bit well.
I want them to do my whole dangbody.
I want them to start at the topof my head and go all the way
down to my knees and justtighten everything else I was
like I mean I'm used to like alaser pain.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I can handle a laser pain like a burning off pain.
This was more of like an oldtherapy pain.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know, I didn't feel like it was as bad as old
therapy, though Old therapy wasso dang bad that I just quit
offering it because people hatedthat.
It was just like torturingpeople.
I had my neck and chest and Ithink the chest, like the bony
areas, the bony areas are spicythey really are but I mean,
nobody on this podcast thatknows you is going to look at
(07:24):
you and go.
Why are you doing anything?
Because you're perfect.
You look great.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, I mean, I've been doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That's why we look good right, because we've been
doing all the things, all thethings.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It started bothering me and then I was like I mean, I
just want it to be like alittle bit upper, and they're
like we have this new laser andI was like the demo patient, you
know, and I was like okay, well, it's spicy, so it counts down.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's like a five second pulse and like one, two,
three is okay, four and five.
You're like, okay, dang it,move it, but then then it quits.
And that's the really coolthing about it it doesn't like
you're not peeling, there's nodowntime, it's like it's pretty
easy.
I love, I love softwave.
I would say I love laze md.
(08:09):
Laze md is it's.
It's kind of a superficialresurfacing.
Um, I love 3d miracle by ultraclear um.
3d miracle is like about youwill peel for about five days
but then your skin looks likeglass.
It's so pretty.
I got to come see you.
Please come, please come.
(08:30):
We're going to plan this.
You're going to come and thenwe're going to film everything
you do.
And then I'm going to come andwe're going to film all the
things you know, going throughyour whole store.
You know I've got a skincareline that I'm making and I'm
going to launch it in January.
So I got to come out there andmaybe you'll carry it at Harbin
House.
Well, you got to come, notuntil you come out and sell me
(08:52):
on it.
I will come out and sell you,baby, I'll come out and sell you
.
So it's going to be really cool.
It's just a morning and eveningproduct, and the morning
product is going to haveantioxidants.
It's going to have the peptideCPKC or okay, can you cut this
out?
It's going to have the peptideGPKCU, which is a peptide that a
(09:14):
lot of people are injectinginto their body that works for
skin and hair, but it's going tohave
the copper peptide in it and ananoparticle technology that
actually penetrates through theepidermis, so it like makes a
reservoir, so it sits there andit's going to have.
It's going to have zinc oxidethat will continue to protect
you, like for 24 hours.
(09:36):
It's going to have.
It's going to have a lot ofantioxidants and
anti-inflammatory things as well, so it's kind of going to be
magic.
It's going to be like a magicpotion.
So it's kind of going to bemagic.
It's going to be like a magicpotion.
So I can't wait for you to hearall about it, so I will come in
.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It's just like the injection.
I went and saw my girlyesterday and she sent me some
link today.
I filled out for like thepeptides.
It's like three of them mixed,but one of them was the copper
peptide.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So there's this magic mix.
So the peptides are.
I think they're the wave of thefuture, and I've actually got a
company, a peptide company.
So that's another thing we gotto talk about, girlfriend, oh my
God.
So the peptide, the BPC-157,which is like body protective
compound 157, and TB-500, bothsuper anti-inflammatory.
(10:23):
They treat all kinds of andanything that's inflammatory.
So a lot of patients withautoimmune disorders, anybody
that has joint pain or justfeels tired and drained.
And then we're putting thecopper peptide in together and
those three you can mix with onelittle sub-Q injection and it's
like magic, that's exactly whatthey gave me Because she was
(10:44):
telling me about that.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And I was like that's exactly what they gave me
because she was telling me aboutthat and I was like I need like
anti-inflammatory, because Ihave all this auto immune stuff,
and I was like I got you, I gotyou, you got me here we are I'm
so well?
When do you sleep like it'sfunny?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
you're like the third person today that's asked me
that and you know, I think Isleep better because I'm just
such, a, such a psycho.
I'm just working so hard, sohardcore and just love.
I love this industry we're in.
I mean, courtney, what otherindustry makes people feel so
good, not only about, you know,their beauty, but if we can make
(11:24):
them feel better about theirwhole body either, whole life
man, that's a win it really is.
We've both been through adivorce real recently, exactly
so I need the anti-pissed offpeptide.
That's what.
I need I need the peptide that'sgoing to make me just like,
okay, let it go, it go.
Baby, can we add the let it gopeptide?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
that's what we need look, I can give you some of
that.
I think I have too much of thelet it go.
I need to like care a littlebit more, I think, these days,
but I'm good at just letting itgo how are you?
I'm good, so I'm officiallydivorced I.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It took a good five years how the heck did it take
five years, honey?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I don't know yeah, well, I you know what I knew the
day I filed that it was goingto be an uphill battle, like I
knew it was going to be, like itwasn't going to be easy, but I
didn't know it was going to bethis hard oh honey saying you
know, thank goodness you can'tsee the future, you wouldn't get
out of bed.
But it's like you know, now it'sover, now you're free, you're
(12:28):
free, I'm not.
I mean still have a couple ofcouple hearings coming up, but
you know, I'm divorced, I'm free.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And you're young and you're beautiful and your whole
life is ahead of you.
You're successful.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You're a total badass , and so we'll see if we can get
the out of you.
You're successful.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You're a total badass .
We'll see if we can get thenext.
So proud of you, so happy foryou, honey.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
What about you?
How long have you been divorced?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
You have a hot new About two years, about two years
, and it has been.
It's been good.
I tell you.
I finally turned the cornerwith my ex.
He's got, you know, he's gothis own new little fiance and
she's just cute.
She's so damn cute, she's realsweet and they love each other
(13:12):
and it's great.
And I have this amazing manthat adores me and thinks that
I'm the best thing that everhappened on the planet.
And it's a real differentfeeling.
It's a real different feeling.
Well, good, I feel good.
You got to meet him.
His name's Daryl Robinson andhe's beautiful and smart and
kind I can't wait to meet him.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, my ex is engaged too.
He's been engaged for like ayear and a half and it's before
the divorce was even filed.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's kind of how that goes.
I think men can be real thing.
They just don't know what to doby themselves.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
No, totally, and I'm kind of the opposite now.
I'm just like I got to be areal special person or else I
just don't want anybody else todeal with.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, and I'll have to tell you the story about how
Daryl and I met because I waslike not even looking, I had
given up on dating.
I'd given both social mediaapps, all the things, all the
dating apps, I apps.
I was like no, I'm doneactually came to Dallas and I
didn't realize that you know anyof the apps, like followed you
around.
I'm such an idiot, I didn'tknow anything about any of this
(14:13):
stuff.
And actually he I startedgetting these, like you know,
chimes and I'm like, oh my gosh,bumble is like yelling at me.
Why is is Bumble yelling at metonight and I'm in Dallas and
this beautiful, amazing,accomplished, smart, kind, like
like pretty much everything Iprayed for my whole life, showed
up on my screen.
(14:33):
I'm like what the heck ishappening?
And there he was and we met andhe moved here six months later
and I was going to say we'rekicking it and having a great
time.
So that's awesome.
What does he do?
So he, actually, now he will.
So he, he's a former actor,he's really.
(14:53):
He was in a couple of the blackPanther movies and he was in
Atlanta and just as a nod youknow he was.
He was like babe, don't getexcited.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I wasn't like a headliner.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I was just like some of those extra guys, whatever.
But you look at him, you go hecould be yeah, and you know.
So he.
He moved here and now he'sworking for a company called
Acosta, which is kind of thethey help all of the things that
Sam's Club and Walmart does andhe's got a great job and great
benefits and they're going tosend him back to get his
(15:26):
master's in business and I mean,we're just, it's just like
things are just clicking.
It's weird, that's great allfalling it's all falling in
together.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So it's good they say your second marriage is the
true love of your life anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So we'll see baby, we ain't married yet so don't be
going there yet.
No, I know that's where wegoing.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
There, we'll see, we said would you ever get married
again?
I said it's too early to say Iwould say a year ago.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
If you'd ask me, I would say abso-freaking-lutely,
not um.
Now that I found him, I think,um, I might consider it.
There would have to be amassive prenup, because I am
never, ever going through thestruggle of splitting the
finances and all of that again.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm just never going to do that again, let me.
I think he makes it a lotharder, but still yes.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I would be committed.
I'm already committed to him.
I think he's amazing and so Idon't know that we really need
to do that.
Yeah, no, yeah.
If he felt like that wassomething that needed to be done
, I would consider it, but therewould have to be a lot of
legality.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well, I mean, and if there is, then it's like fine,
that's why we say I would neverget another divorce.
I mean, so they have to go intoit?
No, and there's only one wayout and it's not worse.
No, no, I mean, how old areyour?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
kids now.
So my oldest is 24, about to be25.
Okay, she graduated from Auburn, alabama, with her master's in
biochemistry Wow.
And she has started a companycalled Key Studios and Wellness
and she is doing nutritioncounseling and hot yoga and
(17:00):
she's freaking killing it.
Courtney, I am so proud of thiskid.
She launched it, you know, whenall of the kids were gone from
college.
And we're about to go downthere and have her first open
house when everybody gets back,but she already has like seven
full classes a day.
She's crushing it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
She gets it from her mama Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Maybe a little, but.
I will tell you.
She has worked so hard and shehad this vision all by herself.
She knew what she wanted to doand she just needed somebody to
be there to support.
And so it's been so fun to seemy precious baby girl just go
out there and kill, and she'sbeen awesome, she's really good.
(17:41):
And then I have Sam and Sophie,the twins, and they're seniors.
They're about to be seniors inhigh school, Okay, and so this
whole weekend we're going to befilling out college applications
, doing the common app, all ofthe things, and I'm having to
beat them up to make them do it,because they are just like you
know, they've already checkedout.
Their senior year has not evenhappened and they're just like
(18:02):
already checked out.
I'm like babes.
Their senior year has not evenhappened and they're just like
already checked out.
I'm like babes, we got to focusjust for a second or two, get
these college apps done and thenyou can enjoy your senior year
and we'll go, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
You already have to start applying that soon, I
guess.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, I mean the early application deadline is
like November and scholarshipdeadlines like October.
I mean like no, like December.
So November and December, sowe'll see.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I can barely get mine registered for the elementary
school.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, baby, you know what.
You're just in a differentstage.
I remember that and I'm goingto tell you I think small
children are much harder thanolder children, because you just
need to.
They need you more.
Yeah, you know my twins, theydon't really need me and they,
they, and they.
They're, honestly they're veryannoyed by me.
They think I'm kind of a painin the ass.
(18:55):
I'm not going to lie, but I'mlike listen, I need you guys to
go to college.
I need you guys to like, do theapplications.
I need you guys to kind of, youknow, create your life, go
forward, go.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
And so I'm encouraging them to get, get
shit done yeah, you got to getthem out there, but yeah, no, I
mean I think every year for me,because mine were.
I mean mine were like two andthree, so we were so little.
I think every year it's justgotten so much easier, like now.
They're like almost like people.
Well, you know, they're like myyoungest just turned eight and
my oldest is, yeah, eight andthen about to be 10.
(19:29):
My oldest will be 10.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, courtney, you're in the beauty years.
You're in the years where theystill love mommy, they still
think you're smart and theystill think you're they in.
Sop it up, enjoy every bit ofit, because I'm going to tell
you when they turn about 13 and15 yeah, it's hideous.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I know, I, I mean my youngest.
He follows me around like myshadow, I mean just everywhere I
go.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
We were just on a boat.
It probably drives you crazy,but you gotta love it, but I
need to remember it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Like I'm like, okay, can I just get a little space,
can I get a little space, justneed a little space.
And he's like, okay, and itsits right next to me.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I'm like, okay, okay y'all were on a boat.
What were you guys doing?
Where were you we?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
were fishing.
So my kids are big fishers so,and so we've been fishing.
I'm in the process of listingmy house.
It's finally done, that's thewhole story.
But I um so I've been trying toget them out of the house.
So we went just to lakebuchanan and we went striper
bass fishing and caught some bigold basses and it was fun.
(20:36):
I know, yeah, we've been to.
I went, saw my friend meg.
He met in st louis.
She's so cute, she's so cute.
We went to innsbruck with herthree kids and mine, which was
that's a lot of kids, a lot ofkids.
It was too many kids and toolittle adults, that's for sure.
I mean I was like, where do yougo home?
(20:56):
I'm exhausted.
You had a babysitter there butwe needed like five babysitters
there.
We went fishing there.
We went fishing in Colorado.
We've done three fishing tripsaround Texas.
So I mean I am, for the firsttime, ready for school to start.
Usually I'm not, because theyou know the school grind and
waking up, I mean I guess it'sgot to be at school at 7 am.
(21:17):
Such a grind.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I'm telling you, sometimes the structure is worth
the grind.
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Now I'm ready for it.
This is the first year I'm like, okay, I'm ready for the summer
to be over.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like I just, I mean, I just have nothing else to do
with them.
You've done all the things.
You've done all the things.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, they're ready too.
They're like Mama, how manymore weeks until we start school
?
Like they're ready too.
I mean, I think I am drivingthem crazy.
I doubt that You're amazing.
So have they met your boyfriend?
Obviously, no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
so yeah, everything's great there.
And I've turned a corner withthe ex-husband.
We're all friends.
It's like, wow, things are goodThings are real good.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Maybe I can get there one day.
We'll see.
I pray for that, but I'm getthere one day, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I pray for that.
But I'm telling you, sometimesyou just can't.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And that's okay.
Well, and that's why I thinkwe're just going to be the just
can't, and you know that's okaytoo.
It's just in this business,yeah, so tell me about Harbin
House Tell me how it's going.
I mean, I still we're still justshipping everything, selling,
doing sales, the skincare.
So we just started the podcastback, obviously, and so I, when
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I was in the middle of liketrial and all that for like a
year and a half, I stopped itbecause I just couldn't commit
to both and so we started itback, started recording in like
March and just started releasingepisodes I guess about a month
and a half ago, episodes I guessabout a month and a half ago,
and it's fun, like it's makingit fun again and, like you know,
bringing me back to get into itall all over again and stuff,
and so it's been going reallygood and I have I mean I have
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the best team on the entireplanet which helps, and so I
mean everything's going reallygood, not going to let.
So I mean always looking foryou know the next thing, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But you're an innovator, sweetie.
I mean you were.
You're so far ahead of yourgame.
I mean I just love what you'redoing there and I just I'm
really excited for you.
I think this next chapter ofyour life is going to be
incredible.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I think so too.
I'm excited to hear about yourskincare thing.
So what made?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
you start a skincare.
So I have you ever heard ofSteve Yellen?
He's a he's a big dermatologist.
He's a little bit older than me, he's kind of an innovative guy
.
He does a lot of you know,clinical trials and things.
And he reached out to me abouta year and a half ago and he's
like Missy, I've got thiscompany called Pro Transit and
they are.
They are just really cool.
It's a nano transit.
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It's a nanotransit, it's ananoparticle company and they
are able to encapsulate a lot ofthings that won't naturally
penetrate into the skin into ananoparticle and then they will
penetrate into the skin, yeah,and they can determine how deep
it will penetrate.
So the product I have coming outis that well, the morning
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product is going to have zincoxide that penetrates just down
past the epidermis and almostcreates a reservoir.
So it's almost like skinprotection that's going to
continue to build and you knowit's going to get better and
better over the days that youuse it and then your body will
gradually break it down.
(24:50):
So it's almost like a sustainedrelease sunscreen, which
there's never been anything likethat.
And yes, but say, is thereanything like that?
No, not that I'm aware of, andwe're also going to combine it
with a peptide.
The copper peptide is going tobe in there.
There's going to beantioxidants, there's going to
be a lot of really amazing kindof compounds mixed with it I
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don't want to give it all awayyet and then we're going to have
a night serum that's going tohave basically all of the same
things plus a DNA repair enzyme.
So without the zinc, of course,we don't need sunscreen at
night, unless you're sleeping onthe beach and somewhere sunny I
don't know in Alaska orAntarctica, but whatever.
So we're going to have nosunscreen in the night product
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and we're going to have a DNArepair enzyme that will help to,
you know, repair all of thedamage of the day.
So I'm super excited about it.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That is exciting.
I'm going to launch in.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
January, and we'll come, and we'll come, and I I
want you to be, I want you to bethe first, the first.
You know, third party, thatreally launches it.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I know I'm so.
Have you tried it yet?
Like, do you have like theactual form?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I've tried it.
Yes, I've been using it and Ihave.
I love it because it is um.
Have you ever used super goopsunscreen?
Uh-huh, so it's kind of like asuper goop base.
It goes in really nicely.
It's very aestheticallypleasing.
It leaves no residue so youcould put makeup on right on top
of it.
Yeah, it's um, I think it.
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I think it's gonna be a hit.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think it's gonna be a hit really.
It's gonna have like an spf,like an actual spf, and spf 40
wow, do you have to go to theFDA for that and everything.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So the SPF is already just a base based on the zinc
itself, so we don't have to doFDA clearance on it, which is
nice, oh that's good, that'sreally good, that's real good.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I always wonder, like , even like small companies that
come out with the sunscreen,I'm like, are they having to go
to the FDA with these Yep?
Like small companies?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
that come out with the sunscreen.
I'm like are they having to goto the FDA with these Yep?
So we're piggybacking on onwhat's already been done and we
just are are taking it to thenext level.
Thank you.
Jesus, we don't need toreinvent the wheel.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Okay, well, so my team has made a bunch of
questions for you.
Let's hit it.
This is a great one.
So what made you want to openyour?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
own practice, oh okay , so I never wanted to do that.
I thought that in med school.
I thought I want to, you know,work three days a week.
I want to work for someonethat's already going to run the
business and all that.
And I was such an idiot I hadno idea that I really don't do
well taking direction fromothers.
Courtney, I don't.
And so my first, my first soireeinto you know, a practice was
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with a man named James Wharton,who's a great dermatologist,
super smart guy.
He was here in Bentonville andwas doing just medical
dermatology and at the time Icame to Bentonville there was no
one doing aesthetic work at all.
So this is 2003.
That tells you how old I am.
I hate to tell you my age.
That tells you how old I am.
I hate to tell you my age, butthat tells you how old I am.
So 2003,.
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There's nobody in Bentonville,arkansas, really doing any
aesthetic work, except theplastic surgeons who maybe are
dabbling in Botox.
But pretty much that was it,and I had extremely good
training in my residency, whichis unusual in dermatology.
Suzanne Yee, who is a veryamazing plastic surgeon down in
Little Rock, arkansas, donatedher time to come and train
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residents at the college andSandy Johnson, who was my chief
resident and is a dear friend ofmine, who lives in Fort Smith,
arkansas, was at that timestayed on faculty because she
was really wanting to train allof us in aesthetics.
So I actually got a lot.
I got late and Jake and Cannonand Milton Wehner was still at
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UAMS.
He was a big laser guy.
So I was at the perfect time atUAMS to really get laser
training, aesthetic training,from some of really the people
that were just starting to do it, and I really felt super
confident.
I knew what I was doing.
I felt like I, you know, couldreally go out and do that.
And James did not want to doaesthetics.
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He was like that's, like that'snot real medicine, I don't want
to do it.
I'm like, well, I don't thinkthat's going to work for me.
So after you know, abouthalfway through the year, we
realized that we were not a goodfit and so he basically said
I'm not renewing your contract.
I'm like, ok, good so.
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But then I was like, oh crap,I've got to go out and figure
out how to do this, because Inever really thought about I
never had a business class in mylife.
I didn't have a clue what I wasdoing.
So I said you know what we'regoing to go do this, I'm going
to figure it out.
And you know, jeff, my husbandat the time was like hey, we'll
find you a space.
He's always been into realestate and developing and a lot
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of other things.
So he found us a space in atiny little strip mall on 28th
Street in Bentonville and it waskind of tragic.
But people came and peoplefollowed me and I started doing
aesthetics along withdermatology, and the next year
we took over a bigger piece ofthe strip mall and then the next
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year we took over a biggerpiece of the strip mall and then
we outgrew that space and thenI built a building and that's
kind of how it all started andjust figured it out as I went
along with a lot of stress and alot of sleepless nights and a
lot of you know business foridiots.
You know that I studied.
You know I just figured it outsame.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, and I mean I learned
.
I always learned everything thehard way.
It's the only way I can learnit is, is doing it wrong first
and then being oh, yes, I'vemade so many mistakes.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I bought devices that were thousands, hundreds of
thousands of dollars that didn'treally work they're mosh.
I mean, it worked.
You know, ulthera it worked,but it was so damn painful
Nobody would ever do it again.
Ulthera, it worked, but it wasso damn painful, nobody would
ever do it again.
Right?
So I've made a lot of reallynot great mistakes, but you know
what you live and you learn andyou get smarter and you get
better, and I think the thingthat's been so, so constant is
(31:03):
that I've had a lot of people,for some unknown reason, that
like me and want to stay with me, and I just have had really
good staff all the way alongthat have stayed with me.
I still have three or fourstaff members that were my
original people, you know, in2003, that are still with me.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
That's a lot about you too, maybe, yeah, yeah,
absolutely, especially in thisindustry.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's like everybody's like looking, thinks there's
like a great thing of all grownup together and it's been really
, it's been really fun practices.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I I think the staffing of it was just the
absolute, I mean, and I'm just,I'm just not good at it.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I'm just really honestly not good at it.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'm not good at hiring people.
I'm not good at firing people.
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I hate hiring people.
That's the worst yeah, that'sthe worst someone go last week
and it was not fun well, youknow, honey, you've done it
right though, because look atwhere you are You're killing it.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I think I got so worn out with the medical practices,
the hiring, the firing.
Now I almost got PTSD and it'slike it's going to be OK.
You know what I mean.
You know, sometimes they justdon't go go easy and now it's
just a whole thing thing,especially when you start
getting into, you know, higherup yeah, it is really difficult
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and you know you get to be, youget to be attached to these
people.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh no, and they're not great at their job, and
you're like oh, I know, I'msorry, I don't want to let you
go, but you know, I've tried youon every seat on the bus and
you just don't get on the busanymore.
That's exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, and it's like every opportunity, yeah, yeah.
So how many employees do youhave?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Oh my goodness, Over 100.
If you look at the differentpractices right now.
So yeah, we've got an office inFayetteville and Bella Vista
and Bentonville and we're goingto expanding into the Walmart
space.
So we got a lot going on.
It's a little bit crazy, butit's good.
So now there are severaldoctors, but Caroline and I are
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the only partners on theaesthetic side.
The other group is mostlymedical and they're not really
involved in the in the futuregrowth.
They're just kind of sittingdoing their their own thing.
Um, so it's fine, it's a it'skind of a good, it's kind of a
good split.
You know, they have their,their vision of what the medical
side looks like for them, andthen we have the, the vision of
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what the aesthetic side lookslike, and we're just kind of
doing our own thing, hanging outtogether all of them do what
now do you travel to all?
of them Do what now?
Do you travel to all of them?
I don't go to Bella Vista rightnow because Bella Vista is much
more of a retirement communityand there's not a lot of
aesthetic work there at thispoint.
I mean, I think there could beif we really pushed it and tried
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to develop it.
Bentonville has blown up andgrown.
You know what it's like mean tobe in Austin I mean the to just
to try to keep up with thegrowth is crazy, right.
So I'm just trying to focus onwhere most of the growth is and
and not spread myself tooincredibly thin, yeah,
absolutely yeah, I mean itdoesn't seem like there's neat
(34:48):
yeah.
I mean I would love to clonemyself.
So if you have any technologythere in all of your, all of
your knowledge, passing thatcloning technology, that'd be
great you can have one of thoseai holograms and like this is
what you can do, but I was likeinjector.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
yesterday and she was telling me I think mertz or
somebody she said had like athing and they showed that you
can make like an ai version ofyourself that stands in the room
and gives post and pre and postlike procedure instructions
seriously, and they do like alike, do like 360 scan around
you and then they like have youin the room, like what looks
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like you in the room, and I waslike she was like Abby, let's
get freaky.
And she's like I mean obviouslythat sounds great, like Abby,
let's get freaky, and she's likeI mean obviously that sounds
great, like not to have to sayit over and over again, but like
I don't think anybody's goingto like that, but it seems like,
and you know, so I have.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I've had some AI renderings of me and I mean I'm
pretty in AI, I'm prettier in AIthan I am in real life, but I'm
like I don't feel real yet.
It doesn't feel quite there yet, so yeah, yeah, we hopefully
have a few years before we'recompletely replaced by automated
intelligence.
You know, I hope so.
(36:00):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And I think we're still going to need.
We'll hope for that.
We'll hope for that.
We should hope for that.
All right, and you see whatelse I got here?
Okay, what is something youwish you knew before getting?
Oh, you wish people knew beforegetting their first treatment.
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
So I think, I think that a lot of people come in
with a preconceived notion thatit's going to be really painful
or that, you know, maybe they'regoing to look unnatural.
And I think a lot of peoplealso come in with a thought that
they hate this spot.
A lot of people come in and sayI hate these, I hate these
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lines around my, you know, butthey don't really understand
that maybe the reason they havea nasolabial fold or a
marionette line is not justbecause they've lost volume
there, which they have, but alsobecause they've lost volume in
the cheek.
Or, you know, maybe they hatetheir jowls, but they don't
realize that they've lost volumein their jawline and their chin
.
And so I think what I wish Iwould like for people to know is
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that the area that bugs you maynot be the place you need to be
injected, right, because youmight.
Actually, you won't necessarilylook good.
And I think you know years andyears ago, you know all of the
on-label injections for fillerare nasolabial fold and
marionette lines.
But if you fill a person'smarionette lines and nasolabial
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folds and you don't address thecheek and the jawline, people
just look weird, they don't looknatural, right.
So I think, to realize thatanatomy and what happens with
you over time and aging is youlose bone, you lose muscle, your
fat tissue, you know shifts.
So you've got to think at it inmore of a 3D perspective and
you don't want to just look atyourself from the front.
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You want to look at yourself inmore of a 3D perspective and
you don't want to just look atyourself from the front.
You want to look at yourselffrom the side and from the top
and all these different angles,because what's really happening
is under the skin and if you canreally recreate the structure,
then you don't necessarily haveto chase a line.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Well and just listen to your dermatologist.
Absolutely necessarily have tochase a line.
Well, and just listen to yourdermatologist.
Absolutely.
If I went in and somebody waslike you don't need to hear, you
need to hear it be like let'sgo.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Like, yeah, exactly, Don't fight it.
Don't fight it.
No, absolutely not.
And I will say, I think the onething that I would like to say
to you, know the whole audience,is start as early as you can
because, if you can.
Just like you know, I think allof medicine needs to shift to
preventative.
Rather than waiting, you know,rather than waiting till you
have a heart attack, let's tryto.
You know, maybe look at your,you know, look at the issues
that are causing those issuesfirst.
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So same with facial aesthetics.
Don't wait until you're in your50s to start doing preventative
things.
If you can start graduallyre-adding volume, if you can
stop muscle movement that'scausing those lines to form
early on, then you're not goingto need to do as much down the
road.
I mean, I'm 52 and people arelike, have you had a facelift?
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I'm like, no, I haven't had afacelift.
But I started doingneuromodulators, like Botox,
when I was 27.
And I've been gradually doingfillers and I've been gradually
doing non-invasive lasertreatments every year, just a
little bit here and there, justto rebuild collagen, just to
give myself a little oomph.
And you know I don't look halfbad for 52.
(39:31):
I mean, I'm not the hottestthing on the planet, but I look
pretty okay for 52.
You look amazing.
Well, you're precious and Iwasn't fishing.
So thank you for saying that.
But I would say that I thinkthat that all of medicine, all
of aesthetics needs to thinkabout preventative more than
even you know what.
Just don't wait till you tellyou the point that you need to
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do a full face erbiumresurfacing and a facelift.
Start early and start with skincare.
Skin care is the key.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Homework is the key yeah, like you said, do a little
.
I mean I I was just tellingsomeone when the last podcast, I
started doing botox, when Ifirst got into the industry,
when I first I mean it was I was22 and it was same, it was like
2007.
There was, you know, it's likethey gave you the grid where you
told everybody whether you're22 or 52, got the same number of
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units, or whatever.
There was no artistry.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
At that point it was all cookie cutter, Do this do
that.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I think I got too manyunits, you know, too young in
some areas Because now.
So I just went and got Botoxyesterday, so settle down a
little bit.
But if you look, I get likethese, like devil worn things.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Like they've settled down, but it's like I just
overcompensating.
But it's still better thanwrinkles, absolutely, but it's
still better than wrinkles,absolutely.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
You know, I think in the beautiful thing is now that
we have products and not justslam Botox.
It's the gold standard.
It's been the thing thatbrought us all to the party,
okay, it's the thing that madeus all realize that we could do
preventative things.
But there are now much moreprecise toxins, like Juvo.
I love Juvo because it's like abullet.
It only it doesn't diffuse, itgoes right where I put it, so I
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can put it here and it doesn'tmake my brow look weird.
You know, for a long time wewere like okay, the spot brow is
what we just have to deal with,because that's all we got.
But now we don't have to dothat, now we can soften that,
that line, without the weirdkind of 45 unit.
Know, you just get a little yeah, yeah, I mean, like I don't
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like to do more than 15 units ina glabella, a lot of time for
women, because we don't want itto look unnatural.
And you still want to move, youknow, and sometimes you need to
frown at your children.
Yeah, exactly, you need to givethem the mommy look.
You just don't want to get anyscars, you just don't want the
permanent lines.
Yes, right, exactly.
Where do you think?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
people should not get Botox anymore, or is there an
area?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I think you need to be really, really careful in the
lower face, in the chin, Ithink, especially with toxins
like Dysport.
I love Dysport for people thathave like a big forehead because
it diffuses really well, butyou need to be really careful
with toxins that diffuse,especially in the lower face,
because you know the DAOs, thechin, the you know everybody
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wants that you do the nefertitilift along the jawline.
You don't really want that todiffuse.
You want it to be reallyprecise.
So I think it's not about whereyou don't want to put it there,
it's just that you want to usethe right product in the right
place and make sure that you'renot using a product that
diffuses too much when you needit to really stay.
Because if I put something in aDAO, a depressor angularis oris
(42:45):
, and it diffuses over to thedepressor lingua inferioris,
then people are all they'regoing to look weird, and so you
just need to know the anatomyand you need to know the
properties of the neuromodulatorthat you're using so that you
make sure it's being done well.
And I think the key is just tomake sure that you and you know
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people talk about certifiedinjectors.
There's no certification forinjectors.
You just need a reallyexperienced injector.
You need someone that's beendoing it for more than a year.
Do not go.
Don't go to somebody that'sbeen doing it for a few months,
because you're going to be theirguinea pig and you don't need
to be that.
Let their family be that, lettheir friends be that.
(43:30):
You don't need to be that.
And you know I just correct somany things because I'm the old
lady in my market now.
You know I'm the one thatcleans up everybody's messes and
it's fine.
I love fixing things, but it'dbe better if we could just make
people look great and not haveto go back and fix it.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I had, and I obviously won't say who it is,
but it was actually a veryexperienced injector and it
wasn't too bad.
But I got Botox and I got ithere for like the orange peel
chain.
You know, I didn't have it lasttime, but she I went out of
town for like my birthday orsomething.
I was taking these pictures andthen afterwards she calls me
and she said I'm calling you in.
(44:10):
I think she called me in thatlike upneek or whatever, like
the eye drops, and she goesyou're going to put some on a
Q-tip and you're going to dothis.
And I was like, wait, why shegoes?
I think I might've hit your DAout.
And I was like was that why I'msmiling?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
My smile looks like white trashy.
I was like I was wondering.
I and try to make it right,that's good, I don't know what
it was.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, she was like I think so I think that's what it
was.
I'm sorry she's like it'll goaway fast and I was like that's
fine, Like well, you're so sweet.
I'm just glad to know that itwasn't permanent.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
That was the way I'm smiling these days and that
scared me off from like thelower face stuff, the lower face
is you really don't need to letanybody that hasn't been
injecting for, I mean, a longtime, because you really need to
know the facial anatomy and thefunny thing is everybody's
facial anatomy is a littledifferent.
You need to know how to assessthe person's facial anatomy so
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you know you're getting in theright muscle.
So you just really need areally good injector.
That's the key for that.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Well, before I move into one of the next questions,
real quick.
What do you think about thatnew Korean?
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Botox or tox or whatever you know.
I will say that almost all ofthe toxins you know come from
Asia or somewhere else.
So I mean, I think it's the NBT.
I think it has a lot of buzz,but you know, I will say that
all of them just need to betried and true.
And I think it has a lot ofbuzz, but you know, I will say
that all of them just need to betried and true.
And I think in the US, you knowit needs to be in our hands for
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a little while before we canall say anything about it.
And I think that you know theirmantra is we're cheaper.
We've been in Korea and you knowthe Koreans are amazing.
They are the most aestheticallyin tune humans on the planet.
They are doing all the things.
I mean they all the weird, kindof interesting, kind of some of
(46:02):
it's really good science, someof it's kind of hocus pocus is
coming out of Korea, and so I'mjust gonna I'm gonna put a pause
on that and say that I thinkthat neuromodulators are amazing
, and there is.
Everybody has their shtick,everybody has their little
unique twist, and I think westill have to figure it out, I
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think we still have to play withit a little bit to determine
where it fits in the market.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
And well, I got yesterday, so I'll let you know
my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Oh, good, OK good, let's see what you think.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Let's see you yesterday, so I'll let you know
my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Oh good, okay good, let's see what you think.
Let's see.
You're talking about Latibo,right?
Yes, yeah, so I will say thatit is a they.
What they're doing is they'resaying we are, you know, we're
the Korean toxin and we aregoing to be.
We're coming to market cheaperthan everybody else.
So what's interesting about thatis that is it cheaper because
(46:54):
it's better?
Is it cheaper because they'rejust trying to undercut
everybody else in the market?
Because that's all they have.
You know, they don't have afiller, they don't have skincare
, they don't have anything elsein their portfolio.
So I think they're coming intrying to undercut everybody
else in the market financiallyso that a lot of the newer
injectors will jump onto it,because they're trying to
buildcut everybody else in themarket financially, so that a
lot of the newer injectors willjump onto it, because they're
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trying to build a practice.
They're trying to financiallyget the cheapest talks, and so
it will definitely play out.
I am not bringing it oninitially.
I'm not Right, because I justknow the science behind the
products that I have and I knowhow they perform.
I do have it in my hands and Iam and I am going to inject some
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staff and we're going to followthem over a year, but I'm not
going to bring it on for a year.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
There's many of them now.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I don't think there's a need.
I don't need to at this point inmy career.
I don't need to experimentbecause I think I have the
science down and, you know, in asingle face sometimes I will
use three differentneuromodulators.
Oh wow, I will.
So if someone has a really bigforehead, like I do, I might use
Dysport in their forehead.
You know, I might use Daxify inan area like the glabella which
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really needs that reallyhardcore boom and where it's
going to wear off faster andDaxify lasts maybe a little
longer in some cases.
And then I might use Juvo onlyin the lower face because Juvo
is so incredibly precise.
So I think it's an art, not ascience, so much anymore.
And I don't know where Lativofits yet, but I'm going to play
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with it.
I'll let you know.
Maybe in a year I'll tell youwhere Lativo fits.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Okay, good, I know.
Well, I mean I'm sure everybodywants you to bring on
everything because you have sucha big block desk, but it's kind
of like you got to pick hereyou do and I and that's what I
tell my clients I'm like I'm notgoing to put it in your face.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
If I don't know what it does, we'll stop guinea pigs,
and we'll try it.
My friends, my family, my staffthat wants free treatment is
great.
I will do that for them andwe'll figure it out.
But I'm going to do the triedand true on the patients that
are coming in to pay for whatthey're doing, because I want it
to be perfect.
I mean, I was a guinea pig.
(49:09):
Well, you and I can be guineapigs because you know we don't
care If I walk around looking alittle wonky, people are going
to oh well, that's Dr.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Clifton again.
Do you want it?
And I'm like, yeah, sure, let'stry it yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I try every laser device, all the things.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
I mean my staff, my patients are used to me walking
around, looking peely and redand all the things, because I'm
trying everything before I passit on to patients.
What do you think about the?
I'm going to say it wrong.
You know the new like PG.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
PDGF platelet-derived growth factor Ariescence oh,
okay, is that what you'retalking about?
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, ariescence, is that your?
Speaker 2 (49:48):
stuff.
So I love Ariescence Okay.
So it is an incredible product.
I don't think we even have aclue of what it can do.
It is only FDA approved fortopical application after
microneedling.
But platelet derived growthfactor is the most powerful
growth factor on the planet.
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So when you hear of peoplegetting PRP, you know where they
draw your blood and they spinit down.
What they're trying to get isplatelet-derived growth factor,
okay.
And when you're 18, you have aton of platelet-derived growth
factor in your blood.
When you're 35, not so much.
When you're 51, none or verylittle, okay.
(50:30):
So you can do PRP till the endof time on a 60 or 70 year old
person and they're not going toget results because they don't
have the growth factor.
So what?
This really smart man named SamLynch, who's actually happens
to be a friend of mine?
He's a brilliant scientist.
He was able to find the geneticsequence for this, really find
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the genetic sequence for thisreally powerful growth factor in
the human genome, splice it outand then put it into yeast cell
DNA and then grow billions ofcopies of it by just making a
ton growing yeast cells.
And then you stripped off allof the yeast proteins and now we
have just this very pure humanplatelet-derived growth factor
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and it is a conserved proteinthat you know.
There's no adverse reaction toit.
You can inject it in the body.
The body doesn't see it as aforeign substance because it is
a normal peptide that yourbody's used to dealing with and
so it is all I use now interiortroughs.
I don't do filler injectionsanymore, it is all I use for
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hair regrowth.
I don't do PRP for hairregrowth anymore.
I do platelet-derived growthfactor with area essence and I
do a different cocktail.
We mix it a little differentlythan we do if we're just
applying it like aftermicroneedling or after a big
erbium resurfacing.
I apply it topically.
(51:59):
But if we're doing it, you know, for injection, we're doing it
basically like we would asculpture or a radius, because
if you inject it into the skinit's going to stimulate your
fibroblasts to start making yourown collagen and elastic tissue
.
I actually have it in my teartroughs, right now, and it is
without a doubt so amazingbecause a lot of times when you
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do filler in the tear troughs,you know a few months down the
road hyaluronic acids.
What are they made to do?
They're made to pull water.
So if you inject that in a teartrough, you're going to get
this big puff ball of likeswelling and fluid and you look
horrible.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
And PDGF won't do that because it will only
stimulate your own body'scollagen and elastic tissue.
So it's, I think it is.
I think the stimulatory market,I think the peptide market, I
think those things are the waveof the future and I think, the
more, the more natural that wecan be and and and you know,
preventative that we can beStart early, just like we're
(53:02):
trying to.
You know, don't wait tillsomebody has a heart attack to
address their cardiovascularissues.
You know, don't wait tillsomebody develops diabetes to
make them, help them lose weightand get metabolically fit.
I think it's the same way withskincare.
I think, if we can use thesenatural peptides, if they will
go through topically, maybe withnanotechnology which is what my
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product is going to do, youknow, maybe with injectable you
know injectable products thatare endogenous to your body
already.
You don't have to worry aboutnodule formation, you don't have
to worry about inflammatoryreactions.
You just get that naturalresult.
So I think all of medicine isgoing to go that way.
I really do, yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
I think that's awesome.
Yeah, I mean I was.
I've heard people talk about itbefore and I've seen it before,
but yesterday they were like,do you want to try this?
Whatever, I was like let me doa little research first.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Well, I will tell you how about you come see me and
let's talk about it, because Iwant you here and then I want to
get there because, first of all, we need to hang out.
I miss you.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
I know, I promise, I promise you, I will come and see
you.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
I will come and see you too, because I'm telling you
I need to get to Austin and myboyfriend's never been to Austin
, so I want to get down there.
We'll have a great timetogether.
I know you have to.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
And so every single trip I've gone out of town every
other week this entire summerand every single one of them has
been with the kids, because onthe off weeks have been doing
this house stuff.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
So anyways, Because you're a good mommy, baby.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
You're a good mommy.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
I am over it.
We need a break from being goodmommies.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
We need a vacation with just adults and see adults
only I got you.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
I will put you up in the nicest hotel.
I'll get you facials at myplace.
We will go and have massages.
We will go out on the town.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
We will have so much fun, girlfriend, Come, come come
, come, I'm coming, I'm going tosend you some dates.
I'm excited, me too, sis.
Well, okay, so we usually willend all the podcasts with one
question and you can use it like, literally, figuratively,
whatever you want to do.
Whatever you want to do, so,like, what do you think is, what
is your beauty formula?
Speaker 2 (55:19):
So I, at this point in my life, my beauty formula is
starting from the inside out.
I have always done really goodskincare.
I've always done a sunscreenwith zinc or titanium every day.
I've always done a retinol atnight.
I've always done antioxidantsfor my skincare and some
exfoliators.
So I've always taken good careof my skin.
(55:42):
But I really, truly believe thatthe next step to really having
great skin is to work on youroverall health, and so I'm
working on keeping my metabolismhealthy.
I'm doing peptide therapymyself.
I'm taking a combination ofBPC-157, tb-500, and GHKCU I
always mess that up GHKCU, whichis the copper peptide, and
(56:03):
those three combined together inone injection.
I do as a sub-Q injection everynight, and it has literally
changed my universe.
I was starting to develop earlyonset osteoarthritis.
My mom is debilitated Her handsare, I mean, she looks like she
has rheumatoid arthritis, butit's osteo and I was starting to
(56:24):
have trouble with injections.
The peptides have changed mylife.
I really believe that thefuture is to look inward so that
your outward glow really shows.
So I think I think the goal isto treat your whole body, not
just treat your skin, because ifyou're not healthy inside, you
won't be looking great outside.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
I know I need to get healthier, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
Well, come on girl, we'll start.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
I'm going to do that, I daily shot too, and then I
look like you.
Whatever you beautiful thing,you're prettier than I'll going
to do my daily shot too, andthen I'm going to look like you.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Whatever, you beautiful thing, you're prettier
than I'll ever be in my wholelife.
I'm so glad to see you.
I really am.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
We're going to make it happen and thank you for
coming on, honey, I'm so honored.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Thank you for asking me.
Love you to pieces.
Bye, baby.
Welcome to the Beauty Formula.
Today, we are joined with DrMisty Clifton, who's one of my
absolute favorite people on theplanet, and she is a
board-certified dermatologist atPremier Esthetics.
Hey, misty.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, sweet girl, I am so glad to be on this with you.
I'm so honored that you wantedme to come join you today.
I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm sure you're sick of hearing the story, but every
time I see you I tell you abouthow you're my favorite and how
I've been stalking you.
And it was.
We went, we both were at I meanthis must have been 15 years
ago at a skin care thing andthey had all of these big
dermatologists and stuff.
And then you were little andyou walked up there and you told
him what you did and you mademore money than all of them and
(00:40):
I just remember we were all justlooking around thinking she's
doing it right and I just lovedyou ever since then.
Oh, sweet girl, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Thank you, I'm good.
You know the struggle is real.
Coming from Arkansas, I mean,half of the universe doesn't
even know where Arkansas is, soI mean they're like, where's
that?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Who are you?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I get it confused with Arizona a little bit.
Well, everybody does so it'sA-R, not A-Z, you know.
So it's a thing.
Nobody knows where I am and youknow, kind of that's maybe okay
because I'm sneaking in underthe radar.
I know, I know Well how isArkansas?
Arkansas is hot as Hades rightnow.
It is humid, humid, humid, andArkansas summers are not the
(01:23):
best.
So I mean, it's not any coolerwhere you are in Austin though.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
right yeah, it's not cool, but I heard Arkansas is
like starting to boom.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Honey.
They are saying thatBentonville, Arkansas, is about
to be the new Austin.
I know.
So I'm like cool, because Ilove Austin.
Yeah, I know I'm coming.
I'm coming to visit you.
We got to make that happenbecause you and I need to hang
out.
I miss your face and I misshanging out with you.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I was already thinking you need to come for
like ACL weekend, one of the bigweekends that would be perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Let's make it happen.
I'll show you the ropes.
That would be so good, baby.
That would be so good.
The only time I've ever been toAustin actually is for a
lacrosse tournament, and thatwas less than optimal.
Let's make, let's, let's do itbetter than that?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yes, let's do that.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Let's do that.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, so tell me what's been going on work-wise,
all things skin All things skinis going really well.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So you know, we're centered in Bentonville,
arkansas, which is kind of.
Our claim to fame is that ourtown is the home of Walmart,
right, right, so Walmart justbuilt this.
They're in the process ofbuilding this ridiculous global
campus that is acres and acresof you know all of the thing,
all things Walmart, and they'rebringing people back.
(02:38):
You know, during COVID, a lotof Walmart people just started
working from home and nowthey're bringing everybody back
to the home campus and they'rebringing in really amazing
retail.
They're bringing in restaurants.
They're bringing in you knowthings that the people that work
at Walmart can really benefitfrom, and guests who they ask to
(02:58):
be on the home campus.
No really so we are the onlymedical provider on the Walmart
Global Home Campus and I amlosing my mind about it.
I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Like now or starting when.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
So we are finishing out the space.
We think by January we will beopening up and so we'll be doing
dermatology services there,we'll be doing all of our lasers
aesthetic services, skin care,of course, doing all of our
lasers, aesthetic services,skincare of course, and all of
that there.
So, yeah, we're just we'rebuilding and growing.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's incredible.
Congratulations, thank you.
So are you the only doctorright now at your?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
clinic.
So no, it's me and DrCunningham is my main partner.
She is amazing.
She's much younger than me butshe is so, so excited about, you
know, all things skin andreally she's into skincare,
she's into lasers.
She's just really jumped in asa partner.
She's been four years.
(03:57):
It's a three-year buy-in at ourclinic and she's just jumped in
as a partner.
And boy am I glad to have herbecause she is amazing and we
have a lot of laser techs andestheticians and you know
everything's going really well.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
But boy is it nice to have someone else that wants to
run the business side of it,because that's the hard part, as
you know she's wanting to runthe oh, so she yeah, right,
she's a partner, she's going tohelp me out with all of that
stuff, honey, it's huge, it'shuge, and she is just can't wait
for you to meet her.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
She is the coolest, sweetest, so much fun.
She did her training in in NewOrleans, so she's our next trip
is for her to take me to MardiGras, so you might want to join
us, you might want to join us?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, I'd be great.
I grew up 45 minutes from NewOrleans, so I'm very close.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Oh my gosh, you guys would have so much in common.
We got to get y'all together.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
We'll talk about that I do.
Well, that's awesome.
And wait, did you start like anew, like laser line or
something too?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know, we have about a year.
Well, it's a little bit morethan that now I can't even keep
up with time anymore, courtneybut we built on a whole laser
section to premiere.
You know, I started doinglasers at the beginning, but now
(05:12):
I have like four laser techs.
I have, like you know, threeestheticians and all these nurse
injectors and PAs and all ofthese people now that are my
extenders and we just have thisincredible family of people that
are so excited about innovation, so excited about staying on
the cutting edge of things.
And that's, you know, that'swhere I think we have this
kindred spirit.
You and I, we just love to beon the cutting edge of all
(05:33):
things new and skincare.
And, yeah, that's why I wasjust obsessed with you when I
first met you.
Besides, your style and yourjust amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Well, you know I'm kind of lack on lasers.
What like?
What's your favorite laserright now?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh, my goodness, I would say Softwave.
It's not really a laser, it'sactually an ultrasound device.
So it's an ultrasound heatingdevice that tightens tissue.
It's colorblind, so it doesn'tmatter how dark your skin is.
You can be tan or not tan.
And you know in Arkansas andAustin, austin everybody in
(06:11):
summer, even if they're wearingtheir sunscreen, they're tan.
So a lot of laser treatmentsyou really can't do, and
softwave bulk heats the dermisand so it tightens.
It's crazy, courtney, I had itdone before I bought the device.
I'm like do my one, you know,lazy eye, because I have a.
We all have a side that's worsethan the other and literally my
lazy eye matched my good eyeafter the treatment, like on the
table.
(06:31):
On the table I already saw theelevation.
It was amazing.
I actually had that laser done.
It's been a little bit well.
I want them to do my whole dangbody.
I want them to start at the topof my head and go all the way
down to my knees and justtighten everything else I was
like I mean I'm used to like alaser pain.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I can handle a laser pain like a burning off pain.
This was more of like an oldtherapy pain.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know, I didn't feel like it was as bad as old
therapy, though Old therapy wasso dang bad that I just quit
offering it because people hatedthat.
It was just like torturingpeople.
I had my neck and chest and Ithink the chest, like the bony
areas, the bony areas are spicythey really are but I mean,
nobody on this podcast thatknows you is going to look at
(07:24):
you and go.
Why are you doing anything?
Because you're perfect.
You look great.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Well, I mean, I've been doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
That's why we look good right, because we've been
doing all the things, all thethings.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It started bothering me and then I was like I mean, I
just want it to be like alittle bit upper, and they're
like we have this new laser andI was like the demo patient, you
know, and I was like okay, well, it's spicy, so it counts down.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's like a five second pulse and like one, two,
three is okay, four and five.
You're like, okay, dang it,move it, but then then it quits.
And that's the really coolthing about it it doesn't like
you're not peeling, there's nodowntime, it's like it's pretty
easy.
I love, I love softwave.
I would say I love laze md.
(08:09):
Laze md is it's.
It's kind of a superficialresurfacing.
Um, I love 3d miracle by ultraclear um.
3d miracle is like about youwill peel for about five days
but then your skin looks likeglass.
It's so pretty.
I got to come see you.
Please come, please come.
(08:30):
We're going to plan this.
You're going to come and thenwe're going to film everything
you do.
And then I'm going to come andwe're going to film all the
things you know, going throughyour whole store.
You know I've got a skincareline that I'm making and I'm
going to launch it in January.
So I got to come out there andmaybe you'll carry it at Harbin
House.
Well, you got to come, notuntil you come out and sell me
(08:52):
on it.
I will come out and sell you,baby, I'll come out and sell you
.
So it's going to be really cool.
It's just a morning and eveningproduct, and the morning
product is going to haveantioxidants.
It's going to have the peptideCPKC or okay, can you cut this
out?
It's going to have the peptideGPKCU, which is a peptide that a
(09:14):
lot of people are injectinginto their body that works for
skin and hair, but it's going tohave
the copper peptide in it and ananoparticle technology that
actually penetrates through theepidermis, so it like makes a
reservoir, so it sits there andit's going to have.
It's going to have zinc oxidethat will continue to protect
you, like for 24 hours.
(09:36):
It's going to have.
It's going to have a lot ofantioxidants and
anti-inflammatory things as well, so it's kind of going to be
magic.
It's going to be like a magicpotion.
So it's kind of going to bemagic.
It's going to be like a magicpotion.
So I can't wait for you to hearall about it, so I will come in
.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It's just like the injection.
I went and saw my girlyesterday and she sent me some
link today.
I filled out for like thepeptides.
It's like three of them mixed,but one of them was the copper
peptide.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So there's this magic mix.
So the peptides are.
I think they're the wave of thefuture, and I've actually got a
company, a peptide company.
So that's another thing we gotto talk about, girlfriend, oh my
God.
So the peptide, the BPC-157,which is like body protective
compound 157, and TB-500, bothsuper anti-inflammatory.
(10:23):
They treat all kinds of andanything that's inflammatory.
So a lot of patients withautoimmune disorders, anybody
that has joint pain or justfeels tired and drained.
And then we're putting thecopper peptide in together and
those three you can mix with onelittle sub-Q injection and it's
like magic, that's exactly whatthey gave me Because she was
(10:44):
telling me about that.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And I was like that's exactly what they gave me
because she was telling me aboutthat and I was like I need like
anti-inflammatory, because Ihave all this auto immune stuff,
and I was like I got you, I gotyou, you got me here we are I'm
so well?
When do you sleep like it'sfunny?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
you're like the third person today that's asked me
that and you know, I think Isleep better because I'm just
such, a, such a psycho.
I'm just working so hard, sohardcore and just love.
I love this industry we're in.
I mean, courtney, what otherindustry makes people feel so
good, not only about, you know,their beauty, but if we can make
(11:24):
them feel better about theirwhole body either, whole life
man, that's a win it really is.
We've both been through adivorce real recently, exactly
so I need the anti-pissed offpeptide.
That's what.
I need I need the peptide that'sgoing to make me just like,
okay, let it go, it go.
Baby, can we add the let it gopeptide?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
that's what we need look, I can give you some of
that.
I think I have too much of thelet it go.
I need to like care a littlebit more, I think, these days,
but I'm good at just letting itgo how are you?
I'm good, so I'm officiallydivorced I.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It took a good five years how the heck did it take
five years, honey?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I don't know yeah, well, I you know what I knew the
day I filed that it was goingto be an uphill battle, like I
knew it was going to be, like itwasn't going to be easy, but I
didn't know it was going to bethis hard oh honey saying you
know, thank goodness you can'tsee the future, you wouldn't get
out of bed.
But it's like you know, now it'sover, now you're free, you're
(12:28):
free, I'm not.
I mean still have a couple ofcouple hearings coming up, but
you know, I'm divorced, I'm free.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And you're young and you're beautiful and your whole
life is ahead of you.
You're successful.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You're a total badass , and so we'll see if we can get
the out of you.
You're successful.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You're a total badass .
We'll see if we can get thenext.
So proud of you, so happy foryou, honey.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
What about you?
How long have you been divorced?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
You have a hot new About two years, about two years
, and it has been.
It's been good.
I tell you.
I finally turned the cornerwith my ex.
He's got, you know, he's gothis own new little fiance and
she's just cute.
She's so damn cute, she's realsweet and they love each other
(13:12):
and it's great.
And I have this amazing manthat adores me and thinks that
I'm the best thing that everhappened on the planet.
And it's a real differentfeeling.
It's a real different feeling.
Well, good, I feel good.
You got to meet him.
His name's Daryl Robinson andhe's beautiful and smart and
kind I can't wait to meet him.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, my ex is engaged too.
He's been engaged for like ayear and a half and it's before
the divorce was even filed.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's kind of how that goes.
I think men can be real thing.
They just don't know what to doby themselves.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
No, totally, and I'm kind of the opposite now.
I'm just like I got to be areal special person or else I
just don't want anybody else todeal with.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, and I'll have to tell you the story about how
Daryl and I met because I waslike not even looking, I had
given up on dating.
I'd given both social mediaapps, all the things, all the
dating apps, I apps.
I was like no, I'm doneactually came to Dallas and I
didn't realize that you know anyof the apps, like followed you
around.
I'm such an idiot, I didn'tknow anything about any of this
(14:13):
stuff.
And actually he I startedgetting these, like you know,
chimes and I'm like, oh my gosh,bumble is like yelling at me.
Why is is Bumble yelling at metonight and I'm in Dallas and
this beautiful, amazing,accomplished, smart, kind, like
like pretty much everything Iprayed for my whole life, showed
up on my screen.
(14:33):
I'm like what the heck ishappening?
And there he was and we met andhe moved here six months later
and I was going to say we'rekicking it and having a great
time.
So that's awesome.
What does he do?
So he, actually, now he will.
So he, he's a former actor,he's really.
(14:53):
He was in a couple of the blackPanther movies and he was in
Atlanta and just as a nod youknow he was.
He was like babe, don't getexcited.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I wasn't like a headliner.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I was just like some of those extra guys, whatever.
But you look at him, you go hecould be yeah, and you know.
So he.
He moved here and now he'sworking for a company called
Acosta, which is kind of thethey help all of the things that
Sam's Club and Walmart does andhe's got a great job and great
benefits and they're going tosend him back to get his
(15:26):
master's in business and I mean,we're just, it's just like
things are just clicking.
It's weird, that's great allfalling it's all falling in
together.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So it's good they say your second marriage is the
true love of your life anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
So we'll see baby, we ain't married yet so don't be
going there yet.
No, I know that's where wegoing.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
There, we'll see, we said would you ever get married
again?
I said it's too early to say Iwould say a year ago.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
If you'd ask me, I would say abso-freaking-lutely,
not um.
Now that I found him, I think,um, I might consider it.
There would have to be amassive prenup, because I am
never, ever going through thestruggle of splitting the
finances and all of that again.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm just never going to do that again, let me.
I think he makes it a lotharder, but still yes.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I would be committed.
I'm already committed to him.
I think he's amazing and so Idon't know that we really need
to do that.
Yeah, no, yeah.
If he felt like that wassomething that needed to be done
, I would consider it, but therewould have to be a lot of
legality.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well, I mean, and if there is, then it's like fine,
that's why we say I would neverget another divorce.
I mean, so they have to go intoit?
No, and there's only one wayout and it's not worse.
No, no, I mean, how old areyour?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
kids now.
So my oldest is 24, about to be25.
Okay, she graduated from Auburn, alabama, with her master's in
biochemistry Wow.
And she has started a companycalled Key Studios and Wellness
and she is doing nutritioncounseling and hot yoga and
(17:00):
she's freaking killing it.
Courtney, I am so proud of thiskid.
She launched it, you know, whenall of the kids were gone from
college.
And we're about to go downthere and have her first open
house when everybody gets back,but she already has like seven
full classes a day.
She's crushing it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
She gets it from her mama Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Maybe a little, but.
I will tell you.
She has worked so hard and shehad this vision all by herself.
She knew what she wanted to doand she just needed somebody to
be there to support.
And so it's been so fun to seemy precious baby girl just go
out there and kill, and she'sbeen awesome, she's really good.
(17:41):
And then I have Sam and Sophie,the twins, and they're seniors.
They're about to be seniors inhigh school, Okay, and so this
whole weekend we're going to befilling out college applications
, doing the common app, all ofthe things, and I'm having to
beat them up to make them do it,because they are just like you
know, they've already checkedout.
Their senior year has not evenhappened and they're just like
(18:02):
already checked out.
I'm like babes.
Their senior year has not evenhappened and they're just like
already checked out.
I'm like babes, we got to focusjust for a second or two, get
these college apps done and thenyou can enjoy your senior year
and we'll go, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
You already have to start applying that soon, I
guess.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, I mean the early application deadline is
like November and scholarshipdeadlines like October.
I mean like no, like December.
So November and December, sowe'll see.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I can barely get mine registered for the elementary
school.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, baby, you know what.
You're just in a differentstage.
I remember that and I'm goingto tell you I think small
children are much harder thanolder children, because you just
need to.
They need you more.
Yeah, you know my twins, theydon't really need me and they,
they, and they.
They're, honestly they're veryannoyed by me.
They think I'm kind of a painin the ass.
(18:55):
I'm not going to lie, but I'mlike listen, I need you guys to
go to college.
I need you guys to like, do theapplications.
I need you guys to kind of, youknow, create your life, go
forward, go.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
And so I'm encouraging them to get, get
shit done yeah, you got to getthem out there, but yeah, no, I
mean I think every year for me,because mine were.
I mean mine were like two andthree, so we were so little.
I think every year it's justgotten so much easier, like now.
They're like almost like people.
Well, you know, they're like myyoungest just turned eight and
my oldest is, yeah, eight andthen about to be 10.
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My oldest will be 10.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, courtney, you're in the beauty years.
You're in the years where theystill love mommy, they still
think you're smart and theystill think you're they in.
Sop it up, enjoy every bit ofit, because I'm going to tell
you when they turn about 13 and15 yeah, it's hideous.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I know, I, I mean my youngest.
He follows me around like myshadow, I mean just everywhere I
go.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
We were just on a boat.
It probably drives you crazy,but you gotta love it, but I
need to remember it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Like I'm like, okay, can I just get a little space,
can I get a little space, justneed a little space.
And he's like, okay, and itsits right next to me.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I'm like, okay, okay y'all were on a boat.
What were you guys doing?
Where were you we?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
were fishing.
So my kids are big fishers so,and so we've been fishing.
I'm in the process of listingmy house.
It's finally done, that's thewhole story.
But I um so I've been trying toget them out of the house.
So we went just to lakebuchanan and we went striper
bass fishing and caught some bigold basses and it was fun.
(20:36):
I know, yeah, we've been to.
I went, saw my friend meg.
He met in st louis.
She's so cute, she's so cute.
We went to innsbruck with herthree kids and mine, which was
that's a lot of kids, a lot ofkids.
It was too many kids and toolittle adults, that's for sure.
I mean I was like, where do yougo home?
(20:56):
I'm exhausted.
You had a babysitter there butwe needed like five babysitters
there.
We went fishing there.
We went fishing in Colorado.
We've done three fishing tripsaround Texas.
So I mean I am, for the firsttime, ready for school to start.
Usually I'm not, because theyou know the school grind and
waking up, I mean I guess it'sgot to be at school at 7 am.
(21:17):
Such a grind.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I'm telling you, sometimes the structure is worth
the grind.
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Now I'm ready for it.
This is the first year I'm like, okay, I'm ready for the summer
to be over.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Like I just, I mean, I just have nothing else to do
with them.
You've done all the things.
You've done all the things.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, they're ready too.
They're like Mama, how manymore weeks until we start school
?
Like they're ready too.
I mean, I think I am drivingthem crazy.
I doubt that You're amazing.
So have they met your boyfriend?
Obviously, no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
so yeah, everything's great there.
And I've turned a corner withthe ex-husband.
We're all friends.
It's like, wow, things are goodThings are real good.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Maybe I can get there one day.
We'll see.
I pray for that, but I'm getthere one day, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I pray for that.
But I'm telling you, sometimesyou just can't.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And that's okay.
Well, and that's why I thinkwe're just going to be the just
can't, and you know that's okaytoo.
It's just in this business,yeah, so tell me about Harbin
House Tell me how it's going.
I mean, I still we're still justshipping everything, selling,
doing sales, the skincare.
So we just started the podcastback, obviously, and so I, when
(22:57):
I was in the middle of liketrial and all that for like a
year and a half, I stopped itbecause I just couldn't commit
to both and so we started itback, started recording in like
March and just started releasingepisodes I guess about a month
and a half ago, episodes I guessabout a month and a half ago,
and it's fun, like it's makingit fun again and, like you know,
bringing me back to get into itall all over again and stuff,
and so it's been going reallygood and I have I mean I have
(23:20):
the best team on the entireplanet which helps, and so I
mean everything's going reallygood, not going to let.
So I mean always looking foryou know the next thing, that's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
But you're an innovator, sweetie.
I mean you were.
You're so far ahead of yourgame.
I mean I just love what you'redoing there and I just I'm
really excited for you.
I think this next chapter ofyour life is going to be
incredible.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I think so too.
I'm excited to hear about yourskincare thing.
So what made?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
you start a skincare.
So I have you ever heard ofSteve Yellen?
He's a he's a big dermatologist.
He's a little bit older than me, he's kind of an innovative guy
.
He does a lot of you know,clinical trials and things.
And he reached out to me abouta year and a half ago and he's
like Missy, I've got thiscompany called Pro Transit and
they are.
They are just really cool.
It's a nano transit.
(24:09):
It's a nanotransit, it's ananoparticle company and they
are able to encapsulate a lot ofthings that won't naturally
penetrate into the skin into ananoparticle and then they will
penetrate into the skin, yeah,and they can determine how deep
it will penetrate.
So the product I have coming outis that well, the morning
(24:29):
product is going to have zincoxide that penetrates just down
past the epidermis and almostcreates a reservoir.
So it's almost like skinprotection that's going to
continue to build and you knowit's going to get better and
better over the days that youuse it and then your body will
gradually break it down.
(24:50):
So it's almost like a sustainedrelease sunscreen, which
there's never been anything likethat.
And yes, but say, is thereanything like that?
No, not that I'm aware of, andwe're also going to combine it
with a peptide.
The copper peptide is going tobe in there.
There's going to beantioxidants, there's going to
be a lot of really amazing kindof compounds mixed with it I
(25:13):
don't want to give it all awayyet and then we're going to have
a night serum that's going tohave basically all of the same
things plus a DNA repair enzyme.
So without the zinc, of course,we don't need sunscreen at
night, unless you're sleeping onthe beach and somewhere sunny I
don't know in Alaska orAntarctica, but whatever.
So we're going to have nosunscreen in the night product
(25:36):
and we're going to have a DNArepair enzyme that will help to,
you know, repair all of thedamage of the day.
So I'm super excited about it.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That is exciting.
I'm going to launch in.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
January, and we'll come, and we'll come, and I I
want you to be, I want you to bethe first, the first.
You know, third party, thatreally launches it.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I know I'm so.
Have you tried it yet?
Like, do you have like theactual form?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I've tried it.
Yes, I've been using it and Ihave.
I love it because it is um.
Have you ever used super goopsunscreen?
Uh-huh, so it's kind of like asuper goop base.
It goes in really nicely.
It's very aestheticallypleasing.
It leaves no residue so youcould put makeup on right on top
of it.
Yeah, it's um, I think it.
(26:21):
I think it's gonna be a hit.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think it's gonna be a hit really.
It's gonna have like an spf,like an actual spf, and spf 40
wow, do you have to go to theFDA for that and everything.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So the SPF is already just a base based on the zinc
itself, so we don't have to doFDA clearance on it, which is
nice, oh that's good, that'sreally good, that's real good.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I always wonder, like , even like small companies that
come out with the sunscreen,I'm like, are they having to go
to the FDA with these Yep?
Like small companies?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
that come out with the sunscreen.
I'm like are they having to goto the FDA with these Yep?
So we're piggybacking on onwhat's already been done and we
just are are taking it to thenext level.
Thank you.
Jesus, we don't need toreinvent the wheel.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Okay, well, so my team has made a bunch of
questions for you.
Let's hit it.
This is a great one.
So what made you want to openyour?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
own practice, oh okay , so I never wanted to do that.
I thought that in med school.
I thought I want to, you know,work three days a week.
I want to work for someonethat's already going to run the
business and all that.
And I was such an idiot I hadno idea that I really don't do
well taking direction fromothers.
Courtney, I don't.
And so my first, my first soireeinto you know, a practice was
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with a man named James Wharton,who's a great dermatologist,
super smart guy.
He was here in Bentonville andwas doing just medical
dermatology and at the time Icame to Bentonville there was no
one doing aesthetic work at all.
So this is 2003.
That tells you how old I am.
I hate to tell you my age.
That tells you how old I am.
I hate to tell you my age, butthat tells you how old I am.
So 2003,.
(27:56):
There's nobody in Bentonville,arkansas, really doing any
aesthetic work, except theplastic surgeons who maybe are
dabbling in Botox.
But pretty much that was it,and I had extremely good
training in my residency, whichis unusual in dermatology.
Suzanne Yee, who is a veryamazing plastic surgeon down in
Little Rock, arkansas, donatedher time to come and train
(28:18):
residents at the college andSandy Johnson, who was my chief
resident and is a dear friend ofmine, who lives in Fort Smith,
arkansas, was at that timestayed on faculty because she
was really wanting to train allof us in aesthetics.
So I actually got a lot.
I got late and Jake and Cannonand Milton Wehner was still at
(28:43):
UAMS.
He was a big laser guy.
So I was at the perfect time atUAMS to really get laser
training, aesthetic training,from some of really the people
that were just starting to do it, and I really felt super
confident.
I knew what I was doing.
I felt like I, you know, couldreally go out and do that.
And James did not want to doaesthetics.
(29:04):
He was like that's, like that'snot real medicine, I don't want
to do it.
I'm like, well, I don't thinkthat's going to work for me.
So after you know, abouthalfway through the year, we
realized that we were not a goodfit and so he basically said
I'm not renewing your contract.
I'm like, ok, good so.
(29:24):
But then I was like, oh crap,I've got to go out and figure
out how to do this, because Inever really thought about I
never had a business class in mylife.
I didn't have a clue what I wasdoing.
So I said you know what we'regoing to go do this, I'm going
to figure it out.
And you know, jeff, my husbandat the time was like hey, we'll
find you a space.
He's always been into realestate and developing and a lot
(29:45):
of other things.
So he found us a space in atiny little strip mall on 28th
Street in Bentonville and it waskind of tragic.
But people came and peoplefollowed me and I started doing
aesthetics along withdermatology, and the next year
we took over a bigger piece ofthe strip mall and then the next
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year we took over a biggerpiece of the strip mall and then
we outgrew that space and thenI built a building and that's
kind of how it all started andjust figured it out as I went
along with a lot of stress and alot of sleepless nights and a
lot of you know business foridiots.
You know that I studied.
You know I just figured it outsame.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, and I mean I learned
.
I always learned everything thehard way.
It's the only way I can learnit is, is doing it wrong first
and then being oh, yes, I'vemade so many mistakes.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I bought devices that were thousands, hundreds of
thousands of dollars that didn'treally work they're mosh.
I mean, it worked.
You know, ulthera it worked,but it was so damn painful
Nobody would ever do it again.
Ulthera, it worked, but it wasso damn painful, nobody would
ever do it again.
Right?
So I've made a lot of reallynot great mistakes, but you know
what you live and you learn andyou get smarter and you get
better, and I think the thingthat's been so, so constant is
(31:03):
that I've had a lot of people,for some unknown reason, that
like me and want to stay with me, and I just have had really
good staff all the way alongthat have stayed with me.
I still have three or fourstaff members that were my
original people, you know, in2003, that are still with me.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
That's a lot about you too, maybe, yeah, yeah,
absolutely, especially in thisindustry.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's like everybody's like looking, thinks there's
like a great thing of all grownup together and it's been really
, it's been really fun practices.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I I think the staffing of it was just the
absolute, I mean, and I'm just,I'm just not good at it.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I'm just really honestly not good at it.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'm not good at hiring people.
I'm not good at firing people.
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
I hate hiring people.
That's the worst yeah, that'sthe worst someone go last week
and it was not fun well, youknow, honey, you've done it
right though, because look atwhere you are You're killing it.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I think I got so worn out with the medical practices,
the hiring, the firing.
Now I almost got PTSD and it'slike it's going to be OK.
You know what I mean.
You know, sometimes they justdon't go go easy and now it's
just a whole thing thing,especially when you start
getting into, you know, higherup yeah, it is really difficult
(32:56):
and you know you get to be, youget to be attached to these
people.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh no, and they're not great at their job, and
you're like oh, I know, I'msorry, I don't want to let you
go, but you know, I've tried youon every seat on the bus and
you just don't get on the busanymore.
That's exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, and it's like every opportunity, yeah, yeah.
So how many employees do youhave?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Oh my goodness, Over 100.
If you look at the differentpractices right now.
So yeah, we've got an office inFayetteville and Bella Vista
and Bentonville and we're goingto expanding into the Walmart
space.
So we got a lot going on.
It's a little bit crazy, butit's good.
So now there are severaldoctors, but Caroline and I are
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the only partners on theaesthetic side.
The other group is mostlymedical and they're not really
involved in the in the futuregrowth.
They're just kind of sittingdoing their their own thing.
Um, so it's fine, it's a it'skind of a good, it's kind of a
good split.
You know, they have their,their vision of what the medical
side looks like for them, andthen we have the, the vision of
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what the aesthetic side lookslike, and we're just kind of
doing our own thing, hanging outtogether all of them do what
now do you travel to all?
of them Do what now?
Do you travel to all of them?
I don't go to Bella Vista rightnow because Bella Vista is much
more of a retirement communityand there's not a lot of
aesthetic work there at thispoint.
I mean, I think there could beif we really pushed it and tried
(34:27):
to develop it.
Bentonville has blown up andgrown.
You know what it's like mean tobe in Austin I mean the to just
to try to keep up with thegrowth is crazy, right.
So I'm just trying to focus onwhere most of the growth is and
and not spread myself tooincredibly thin, yeah,
absolutely yeah, I mean itdoesn't seem like there's neat
(34:48):
yeah.
I mean I would love to clonemyself.
So if you have any technologythere in all of your, all of
your knowledge, passing thatcloning technology, that'd be
great you can have one of thoseai holograms and like this is
what you can do, but I was likeinjector.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
yesterday and she was telling me I think mertz or
somebody she said had like athing and they showed that you
can make like an ai version ofyourself that stands in the room
and gives post and pre and postlike procedure instructions
seriously, and they do like alike, do like 360 scan around
you and then they like have youin the room, like what looks
(35:26):
like you in the room, and I waslike she was like Abby, let's
get freaky.
And she's like I mean obviouslythat sounds great, like Abby,
let's get freaky, and she's likeI mean obviously that sounds
great, like not to have to sayit over and over again, but like
I don't think anybody's goingto like that, but it seems like,
and you know, so I have.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
I've had some AI renderings of me and I mean I'm
pretty in AI, I'm prettier in AIthan I am in real life, but I'm
like I don't feel real yet.
It doesn't feel quite there yet, so yeah, yeah, we hopefully
have a few years before we'recompletely replaced by automated
intelligence.
You know, I hope so.
(36:00):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And I think we're still going to need.
We'll hope for that.
We'll hope for that.
We should hope for that.
All right, and you see whatelse I got here?
Okay, what is something youwish you knew before getting?
Oh, you wish people knew beforegetting their first treatment.
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
So I think, I think that a lot of people come in
with a preconceived notion thatit's going to be really painful
or that, you know, maybe they'regoing to look unnatural.
And I think a lot of peoplealso come in with a thought that
they hate this spot.
A lot of people come in and sayI hate these, I hate these
(36:42):
lines around my, you know, butthey don't really understand
that maybe the reason they havea nasolabial fold or a
marionette line is not justbecause they've lost volume
there, which they have, but alsobecause they've lost volume in
the cheek.
Or, you know, maybe they hatetheir jowls, but they don't
realize that they've lost volumein their jawline and their chin
.
And so I think what I wish Iwould like for people to know is
(37:06):
that the area that bugs you maynot be the place you need to be
injected, right, because youmight.
Actually, you won't necessarilylook good.
And I think you know years andyears ago, you know all of the
on-label injections for fillerare nasolabial fold and
marionette lines.
But if you fill a person'smarionette lines and nasolabial
(37:29):
folds and you don't address thecheek and the jawline, people
just look weird, they don't looknatural, right.
So I think, to realize thatanatomy and what happens with
you over time and aging is youlose bone, you lose muscle, your
fat tissue, you know shifts.
So you've got to think at it inmore of a 3D perspective and
you don't want to just look atyourself from the front.
(37:49):
You want to look at yourself inmore of a 3D perspective and
you don't want to just look atyourself from the front.
You want to look at yourselffrom the side and from the top
and all these different angles,because what's really happening
is under the skin and if you canreally recreate the structure,
then you don't necessarily haveto chase a line.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Well and just listen to your dermatologist.
Absolutely necessarily have tochase a line.
Well, and just listen to yourdermatologist.
Absolutely.
If I went in and somebody waslike you don't need to hear, you
need to hear it be like let'sgo.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Like, yeah, exactly, Don't fight it.
Don't fight it.
No, absolutely not.
And I will say, I think the onething that I would like to say
to you, know the whole audience,is start as early as you can
because, if you can.
Just like you know, I think allof medicine needs to shift to
preventative.
Rather than waiting, you know,rather than waiting till you
have a heart attack, let's tryto.
You know, maybe look at your,you know, look at the issues
that are causing those issuesfirst.
(38:46):
So same with facial aesthetics.
Don't wait until you're in your50s to start doing preventative
things.
If you can start graduallyre-adding volume, if you can
stop muscle movement that'scausing those lines to form
early on, then you're not goingto need to do as much down the
road.
I mean, I'm 52 and people arelike, have you had a facelift?
(39:09):
I'm like, no, I haven't had afacelift.
But I started doingneuromodulators, like Botox,
when I was 27.
And I've been gradually doingfillers and I've been gradually
doing non-invasive lasertreatments every year, just a
little bit here and there, justto rebuild collagen, just to
give myself a little oomph.
And you know I don't look halfbad for 52.
(39:31):
I mean, I'm not the hottestthing on the planet, but I look
pretty okay for 52.
You look amazing.
Well, you're precious and Iwasn't fishing.
So thank you for saying that.
But I would say that I thinkthat that all of medicine, all
of aesthetics needs to thinkabout preventative more than
even you know what.
Just don't wait till you tellyou the point that you need to
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do a full face erbiumresurfacing and a facelift.
Start early and start with skincare.
Skin care is the key.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Homework is the key yeah, like you said, do a little
.
I mean I I was just tellingsomeone when the last podcast, I
started doing botox, when Ifirst got into the industry,
when I first I mean it was I was22 and it was same, it was like
2007.
There was, you know, it's likethey gave you the grid where you
told everybody whether you're22 or 52, got the same number of
(40:26):
units, or whatever.
There was no artistry.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
At that point it was all cookie cutter, Do this do
that.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I think I got too manyunits, you know, too young in
some areas Because now.
So I just went and got Botoxyesterday, so settle down a
little bit.
But if you look, I get likethese, like devil worn things.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Like they've settled down, but it's like I just
overcompensating.
But it's still better thanwrinkles, absolutely, but it's
still better than wrinkles,absolutely.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
You know, I think in the beautiful thing is now that
we have products and not justslam Botox.
It's the gold standard.
It's been the thing thatbrought us all to the party,
okay, it's the thing that madeus all realize that we could do
preventative things.
But there are now much moreprecise toxins, like Juvo.
I love Juvo because it's like abullet.
It only it doesn't diffuse, itgoes right where I put it, so I
(41:15):
can put it here and it doesn'tmake my brow look weird.
You know, for a long time wewere like okay, the spot brow is
what we just have to deal with,because that's all we got.
But now we don't have to dothat, now we can soften that,
that line, without the weirdkind of 45 unit.
Know, you just get a little yeah, yeah, I mean, like I don't
(41:36):
like to do more than 15 units ina glabella, a lot of time for
women, because we don't want itto look unnatural.
And you still want to move, youknow, and sometimes you need to
frown at your children.
Yeah, exactly, you need to givethem the mommy look.
You just don't want to get anyscars, you just don't want the
permanent lines.
Yes, right, exactly.
Where do you think?
Speaker 1 (41:56):
people should not get Botox anymore, or is there an
area?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I think you need to be really, really careful in the
lower face, in the chin, Ithink, especially with toxins
like Dysport.
I love Dysport for people thathave like a big forehead because
it diffuses really well, butyou need to be really careful
with toxins that diffuse,especially in the lower face,
because you know the DAOs, thechin, the you know everybody
(42:22):
wants that you do the nefertitilift along the jawline.
You don't really want that todiffuse.
You want it to be reallyprecise.
So I think it's not about whereyou don't want to put it there,
it's just that you want to usethe right product in the right
place and make sure that you'renot using a product that
diffuses too much when you needit to really stay.
Because if I put something in aDAO, a depressor angularis oris
(42:45):
, and it diffuses over to thedepressor lingua inferioris,
then people are all they'regoing to look weird, and so you
just need to know the anatomyand you need to know the
properties of the neuromodulatorthat you're using so that you
make sure it's being done well.
And I think the key is just tomake sure that you and you know
(43:08):
people talk about certifiedinjectors.
There's no certification forinjectors.
You just need a reallyexperienced injector.
You need someone that's beendoing it for more than a year.
Do not go.
Don't go to somebody that'sbeen doing it for a few months,
because you're going to be theirguinea pig and you don't need
to be that.
Let their family be that, lettheir friends be that.
(43:30):
You don't need to be that.
And you know I just correct somany things because I'm the old
lady in my market now.
You know I'm the one thatcleans up everybody's messes and
it's fine.
I love fixing things, but it'dbe better if we could just make
people look great and not haveto go back and fix it.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I had, and I obviously won't say who it is,
but it was actually a veryexperienced injector and it
wasn't too bad.
But I got Botox and I got ithere for like the orange peel
chain.
You know, I didn't have it lasttime, but she I went out of
town for like my birthday orsomething.
I was taking these pictures andthen afterwards she calls me
and she said I'm calling you in.
(44:10):
I think she called me in thatlike upneek or whatever, like
the eye drops, and she goesyou're going to put some on a
Q-tip and you're going to dothis.
And I was like, wait, why shegoes?
I think I might've hit your DAout.
And I was like was that why I'msmiling?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
My smile looks like white trashy.
I was like I was wondering.
I and try to make it right,that's good, I don't know what
it was.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yeah, she was like I think so I think that's what it
was.
I'm sorry she's like it'll goaway fast and I was like that's
fine, Like well, you're so sweet.
I'm just glad to know that itwasn't permanent.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
That was the way I'm smiling these days and that
scared me off from like thelower face stuff, the lower face
is you really don't need to letanybody that hasn't been
injecting for, I mean, a longtime, because you really need to
know the facial anatomy and thefunny thing is everybody's
facial anatomy is a littledifferent.
You need to know how to assessthe person's facial anatomy so
(45:07):
you know you're getting in theright muscle.
So you just really need areally good injector.
That's the key for that.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Well, before I move into one of the next questions,
real quick.
What do you think about thatnew Korean?
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Botox or tox or whatever you know.
I will say that almost all ofthe toxins you know come from
Asia or somewhere else.
So I mean, I think it's the NBT.
I think it has a lot of buzz,but you know, I will say that
all of them just need to betried and true.
And I think it has a lot ofbuzz, but you know, I will say
that all of them just need to betried and true.
And I think in the US, you knowit needs to be in our hands for
(45:39):
a little while before we canall say anything about it.
And I think that you know theirmantra is we're cheaper.
We've been in Korea and you knowthe Koreans are amazing.
They are the most aestheticallyin tune humans on the planet.
They are doing all the things.
I mean they all the weird, kindof interesting, kind of some of
(46:02):
it's really good science, someof it's kind of hocus pocus is
coming out of Korea, and so I'mjust gonna I'm gonna put a pause
on that and say that I thinkthat neuromodulators are amazing
, and there is.
Everybody has their shtick,everybody has their little
unique twist, and I think westill have to figure it out, I
(46:22):
think we still have to play withit a little bit to determine
where it fits in the market.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
And well, I got yesterday, so I'll let you know
my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Oh, good, OK good, let's see what you think.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Let's see you yesterday, so I'll let you know
my thoughts.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Oh good, okay good, let's see what you think.
Let's see.
You're talking about Latibo,right?
Yes, yeah, so I will say thatit is a they.
What they're doing is they'resaying we are, you know, we're
the Korean toxin and we aregoing to be.
We're coming to market cheaperthan everybody else.
So what's interesting about thatis that is it cheaper because
(46:54):
it's better?
Is it cheaper because they'rejust trying to undercut
everybody else in the market?
Because that's all they have.
You know, they don't have afiller, they don't have skincare
, they don't have anything elsein their portfolio.
So I think they're coming intrying to undercut everybody
else in the market financiallyso that a lot of the newer
injectors will jump onto it,because they're trying to
buildcut everybody else in themarket financially, so that a
lot of the newer injectors willjump onto it, because they're
(47:15):
trying to build a practice.
They're trying to financiallyget the cheapest talks, and so
it will definitely play out.
I am not bringing it oninitially.
I'm not Right, because I justknow the science behind the
products that I have and I knowhow they perform.
I do have it in my hands and Iam and I am going to inject some
(47:37):
staff and we're going to followthem over a year, but I'm not
going to bring it on for a year.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
There's many of them now.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I don't think there's a need.
I don't need to at this point inmy career.
I don't need to experimentbecause I think I have the
science down and, you know, in asingle face sometimes I will
use three differentneuromodulators.
Oh wow, I will.
So if someone has a really bigforehead, like I do, I might use
Dysport in their forehead.
You know, I might use Daxify inan area like the glabella which
(48:09):
really needs that reallyhardcore boom and where it's
going to wear off faster andDaxify lasts maybe a little
longer in some cases.
And then I might use Juvo onlyin the lower face because Juvo
is so incredibly precise.
So I think it's an art, not ascience, so much anymore.
And I don't know where Lativofits yet, but I'm going to play
(48:32):
with it.
I'll let you know.
Maybe in a year I'll tell youwhere Lativo fits.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Okay, good, I know.
Well, I mean I'm sure everybodywants you to bring on
everything because you have sucha big block desk, but it's kind
of like you got to pick hereyou do and I and that's what I
tell my clients I'm like I'm notgoing to put it in your face.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
If I don't know what it does, we'll stop guinea pigs,
and we'll try it.
My friends, my family, my staffthat wants free treatment is
great.
I will do that for them andwe'll figure it out.
But I'm going to do the triedand true on the patients that
are coming in to pay for whatthey're doing, because I want it
to be perfect.
I mean, I was a guinea pig.
(49:09):
Well, you and I can be guineapigs because you know we don't
care If I walk around looking alittle wonky, people are going
to oh well, that's Dr.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Clifton again.
Do you want it?
And I'm like, yeah, sure, let'stry it yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
I try every laser device, all the things.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
I mean my staff, my patients are used to me walking
around, looking peely and redand all the things, because I'm
trying everything before I passit on to patients.
What do you think about the?
I'm going to say it wrong.
You know the new like PG.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
PDGF platelet-derived growth factor Ariescence oh,
okay, is that what you'retalking about?
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, ariescence, is that your?
Speaker 2 (49:48):
stuff.
So I love Ariescence Okay.
So it is an incredible product.
I don't think we even have aclue of what it can do.
It is only FDA approved fortopical application after
microneedling.
But platelet derived growthfactor is the most powerful
growth factor on the planet.
(50:08):
So when you hear of peoplegetting PRP, you know where they
draw your blood and they spinit down.
What they're trying to get isplatelet-derived growth factor,
okay.
And when you're 18, you have aton of platelet-derived growth
factor in your blood.
When you're 35, not so much.
When you're 51, none or verylittle, okay.
(50:30):
So you can do PRP till the endof time on a 60 or 70 year old
person and they're not going toget results because they don't
have the growth factor.
So what?
This really smart man named SamLynch, who's actually happens
to be a friend of mine?
He's a brilliant scientist.
He was able to find the geneticsequence for this, really find
(50:51):
the genetic sequence for thisreally powerful growth factor in
the human genome, splice it outand then put it into yeast cell
DNA and then grow billions ofcopies of it by just making a
ton growing yeast cells.
And then you stripped off allof the yeast proteins and now we
have just this very pure humanplatelet-derived growth factor
(51:16):
and it is a conserved proteinthat you know.
There's no adverse reaction toit.
You can inject it in the body.
The body doesn't see it as aforeign substance because it is
a normal peptide that yourbody's used to dealing with and
so it is all I use now interiortroughs.
I don't do filler injectionsanymore, it is all I use for
(51:39):
hair regrowth.
I don't do PRP for hairregrowth anymore.
I do platelet-derived growthfactor with area essence and I
do a different cocktail.
We mix it a little differentlythan we do if we're just
applying it like aftermicroneedling or after a big
erbium resurfacing.
I apply it topically.
(51:59):
But if we're doing it, you know, for injection, we're doing it
basically like we would asculpture or a radius, because
if you inject it into the skinit's going to stimulate your
fibroblasts to start making yourown collagen and elastic tissue
.
I actually have it in my teartroughs, right now, and it is
without a doubt so amazingbecause a lot of times when you
(52:23):
do filler in the tear troughs,you know a few months down the
road hyaluronic acids.
What are they made to do?
They're made to pull water.
So if you inject that in a teartrough, you're going to get
this big puff ball of likeswelling and fluid and you look
horrible.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
And PDGF won't do that because it will only
stimulate your own body'scollagen and elastic tissue.
So it's, I think it is.
I think the stimulatory market,I think the peptide market, I
think those things are the waveof the future and I think, the
more, the more natural that wecan be and and and you know,
preventative that we can beStart early, just like we're
(53:02):
trying to.
You know, don't wait tillsomebody has a heart attack to
address their cardiovascularissues.
You know, don't wait tillsomebody develops diabetes to
make them, help them lose weightand get metabolically fit.
I think it's the same way withskincare.
I think, if we can use thesenatural peptides, if they will
go through topically, maybe withnanotechnology which is what my
(53:25):
product is going to do, youknow, maybe with injectable you
know injectable products thatare endogenous to your body
already.
You don't have to worry aboutnodule formation, you don't have
to worry about inflammatoryreactions.
You just get that naturalresult.
So I think all of medicine isgoing to go that way.
I really do, yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
I think that's awesome.
Yeah, I mean I was.
I've heard people talk about itbefore and I've seen it before,
but yesterday they were like,do you want to try this?
Whatever, I was like let me doa little research first.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Well, I will tell you how about you come see me and
let's talk about it, because Iwant you here and then I want to
get there because, first of all, we need to hang out.
I miss you.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
I know, I promise, I promise you, I will come and see
you.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
I will come and see you too, because I'm telling you
I need to get to Austin and myboyfriend's never been to Austin
, so I want to get down there.
We'll have a great timetogether.
I know you have to.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
And so every single trip I've gone out of town every
other week this entire summerand every single one of them has
been with the kids, because onthe off weeks have been doing
this house stuff.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
So anyways, Because you're a good mommy, baby.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
You're a good mommy.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
I am over it.
We need a break from being goodmommies.
Speaker 1 (54:40):
We need a vacation with just adults and see adults
only I got you.
Speaker 2 (54:45):
I will put you up in the nicest hotel.
I'll get you facials at myplace.
We will go and have massages.
We will go out on the town.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
We will have so much fun, girlfriend, Come, come come
, come, I'm coming, I'm going tosend you some dates.
I'm excited, me too, sis.
Well, okay, so we usually willend all the podcasts with one
question and you can use it like, literally, figuratively,
whatever you want to do.
Whatever you want to do, so,like, what do you think is, what
is your beauty formula?
Speaker 2 (55:19):
So I, at this point in my life, my beauty formula is
starting from the inside out.
I have always done really goodskincare.
I've always done a sunscreenwith zinc or titanium every day.
I've always done a retinol atnight.
I've always done antioxidantsfor my skincare and some
exfoliators.
So I've always taken good careof my skin.
(55:42):
But I really, truly believe thatthe next step to really having
great skin is to work on youroverall health, and so I'm
working on keeping my metabolismhealthy.
I'm doing peptide therapymyself.
I'm taking a combination ofBPC-157, tb-500, and GHKCU I
always mess that up GHKCU, whichis the copper peptide, and
(56:03):
those three combined together inone injection.
I do as a sub-Q injection everynight, and it has literally
changed my universe.
I was starting to develop earlyonset osteoarthritis.
My mom is debilitated Her handsare, I mean, she looks like she
has rheumatoid arthritis, butit's osteo and I was starting to
(56:24):
have trouble with injections.
The peptides have changed mylife.
I really believe that thefuture is to look inward so that
your outward glow really shows.
So I think I think the goal isto treat your whole body, not
just treat your skin, because ifyou're not healthy inside, you
won't be looking great outside.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
I know I need to get healthier, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (56:47):
Well, come on girl, we'll start.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
I'm going to do that, I daily shot too, and then I
look like you.
Whatever you beautiful thing,you're prettier than I'll going
to do my daily shot too, andthen I'm going to look like you.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Whatever, you beautiful thing, you're prettier
than I'll ever be in my wholelife.
I'm so glad to see you.
I really am.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
We're going to make it happen and thank you for
coming on, honey, I'm so honored.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Thank you for asking me.
Love you to pieces.
Bye, baby.
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