The Eikon Podcast

The Eikon Podcast

Please consider supporting this podcast by going to: https://www.patreon.com/eikonpodcastJoin Michael Burns (biblical teacher, author, and speaker), Jason Alexander (pastor, speaker), and Gianna Hearn (journalist, host of "The Weekly G" video news magazine of the NBA G-League) for a fun, lively, and relevant examination of biblical texts, emphasizing their historical and cultural context with an eye on applying those principles into the mess of modern life. To submit questions, or suggestions, or give feedback contact us at eikonpodcast@gmail.com. If you're a new listener. Welcome and thank you. We recommend that you start listening to season 4, episode 93. After you're caught up to the present, we suggest that you then go back and explore the first 3 seasons when the podcast was still called "All Things to All People with Michael Burns."

Episodes

June 30, 2025 67 mins

Michael and Jeff explore the theme of how the gospel creates a sense of family within the church. They discuss the importance of community, shared honor, and identity, and how Jesus redefined what it means to be part of God's family. The conversation touches on cultural aspects, the role of the church, and the significance of meals in forming deep connections among believers. They emphasize the need for churches to focus on fa...

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The Eikon team introduces a framework for understanding beliefs categorized as blood, ink, and pencil, emphasizing the need for clarity in what constitutes essential Christian doctrine.  They discuss the importance of accepting differences in beliefs and practices within the Christian community, emphasizing unity and mutual respect. The conversation also touches on the challenges of fellowship and separation over doctrinal disagree...

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Michael and Jeff explore the complexities of interpreting scripture in modern contexts, the role of tradition in understanding faith, and the evolution of Christian doctrine. They discuss the impact of individualism on Christianity and the importance of recognizing the varying weight of doctrinal beliefs. The episode culminates in the introduction of the concept of 'Blood, Ink, and Pencil,' which categorizes beliefs and p...

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The conversation in this episode highlights the need for flexibility in understanding doctrine, the importance of community and cooperation among different faith groups, and the ongoing struggle to navigate boundaries in faith without losing sight of the core message of Jesus.

 

Chapters

 

00:00 The Icon Podcast Introduction and Community Dynamics

04:26 Exploring the Centered Gospel

15:31 Balancing Centered and Bounded Set Gospel...

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The Other Realm Team delves into the fascinating world of zombies, exploring their cultural significance, the evolution of zombie movies, and the science (or lack thereof) behind the undead. They discuss iconic films and TV shows, share personal reflections on the genre, and ponder what they would do in a zombie apocalypse. Michael, Jason, and Elijah explore the hypothetical scenarios of a zombie apocalypse, discussing survival str...

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The Eikon Team delves into a deeper exploration of the centered and bounded gospels, particularly through the lens of table fellowship as illustrated in Luke 14 and 15. They reflect on the implications of social status in biblical times and how it relates to modern spiritual practices, including communion. 

 

00:00 Opening Banter

15:01 Understanding Table Fellowship in the Gospel

20:02 Bounded vs. Centered Gospel Discussion

25:36 Indivi...

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Michael and Jeff discuss the challenges of measuring spiritual maturity and the need for a deeper understanding of faith that goes beyond mere rule-following. 

 

00:00 Opening

09:04 Exploring Centered Set Church Concepts

30:57 Bounded vs. Centered Churches

38:06 Leadership in Bounded vs. Centered Models

42:28 Blood, Ink, and Pencil Issues in Faith

46:54 Centered Approach to Faith and Community

50:04 The Challenge of Sin Management ...

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May 12, 2025 61 mins

The Eikon team explores the differences between bounded and centered gospels, discussing the implications of church dynamics on inclusion and exclusion. They delve into the nature of bounded churches, the judgmentalism that can arise, and the importance of fostering a community that encourages exploration of faith. The discussion highlights the spectrum of church mentalities, the impact of exclusion on individual identity, and the ...

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Michael and Jeff explore the themes of living as Christians in a world that often feels like an empire. They discuss the importance of community, the call to live honorably, and the challenge of embodying the way of the cross. The conversation delves into the role of the Christian community in society, the complexities of engaging with government, and the need for humility and love in the face of cultural challenges. They emphasize...

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In this episode of The Other Realm, Michael and Elijah Burns delve into the controversial topic of the flat Earth hypothesis. They explore its historical roots, the resurgence of interest in modern times, and the main arguments put forth by flat-earth proponents. They then dive into the critiques of flat-earth claims. The discussion emphasizes the importance of discernment, truth, and the need for a faithful reading of scripture in...

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Jeff, Gianna, and Michael explore the challenges and responsibilities of living as a Christian community in today's world. They discuss the importance of embodying the teachings of Jesus, particularly the Sermon on the Mount, and the need to focus on community engagement rather than just individual conversion. They highlight the tension between political power and the cross-shaped life that Jesus exemplified, urging listeners ...

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S7E209 – Exilic Gospel: Subversive Witness

 

Gianna, Jeff, and Michael explore the complex relationship between the kingdom of God and the dynamics of empire, particularly in the context of exile. They discuss the importance of understanding one's identity as an exile, the instructions given in Jeremiah 29 for those in Babylon, and the call to seek shalom in a foreign land. The conversation also delves into the various responses...

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The Eikon team explores the themes of exile, identity, and leadership in the context of the gospel and the Old Testament. They delve into the concept of exile as a central theme in the Bible, and examine God's design for kingship, militarism, the economy and status in Israel's history. They consider this as a clarifying metric for the embodied gospel and a conundrum for claims of any country that wishes to claim the statu...

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In this episode, Michael Burns and Thabani welcome special guest, Alfredo Valentin, the BK apologist. They delve into the complex world of urban apologetics, focusing on the Black Hebrew Israelite movement. They explore the theological implications, historical context, and appeal of this ideology, particularly among marginalized communities. The conversation also touches on strategies for engaging with Hebrew Israelites and the imp...

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In this conversation, the Eikon team explores the themes of allegiance, exile, and the nature of the church in relation to the kingdom of God. They discuss how the early church navigated political subversion and the implications of living as exiles in a world that often contradicts the values of the kingdom. The conversation emphasizes the need for a deeper understanding of what it means to pledge allegiance to Jesus and the challe...

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March 17, 2025 60 mins

The Eikon team continues to analyze the whole gospel, which differs from incomplete versions in its formation of community, the role of baptism, and especially what we understand as the primary mission of the church. 

 

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Personal Reflections

8:38 The Whole Gospel: Understanding Community and Individuality

13:36 The Challenge of Individualism in the Gospel

19:48 Baptism and the Role of the Church

23:00 The Ro...

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March 10, 2025 67 mins

Gianna, Jeff, and Michael explore the complexities of faith communities, the challenges of drawing lines in beliefs, and the importance of embodying the gospel through love and community rather than merely exporting morals. 

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S7E203 – Giants and the Bible

 

Thabani and Michael delve into the complex interpretations of Genesis 6 and explore the supernatural view of the Nephilim, discussing how early Jewish and Christian beliefs shaped the understanding of these figures as giants and their implications in biblical narratives. The discussion also touches on the cultural memory of giants across civilizations and the language used in ancient texts, emphasizing...

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February 24, 2025 61 mins

The Eikon team examines the gospel story, highlighting aspects often left out or missed altogether. Through the lens of the narrative, they explore the concept of image bearers and their rebellion against God, the role of Elohim, and the significance of the Tower of Babel. They discuss Israel's purpose as a light to the nations and how Jesus embodies the fulfillment of God's plan. 

 

Chapters

 

00:00 Introduction and banter

06...

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S7E201: Christian Nationalism and the Role Gospel

 

The Eikon Team delves into the concept of role gospels, discussing how identity and roles play a crucial part in understanding the gospel message. They examine variations of the role gospel including Christian Nationalism, the anti-immorality gospel, and distorted justice. They discuss historical parallels with Rome, the importance of humility and critique within the church, and the...

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