July 3, 2025 • 19 mins
s1.3 Post-Fame Plus
July 3, 2025
00:19:54
In episode three of the summer series 'Post-Fame Plus', hosts Alexi and her dad Glen discuss their music exchange challenge. Alexi shares her personal favorite song 'Why Is It Light Out?' by The Kilans, detailing its deep emotional connection to a trip in Europe and its link to her current boyfriend. Glen reciprocates with the album 'Talker' by Wilderado, emphasizing its cohesive indie rock appeal. They also touch on nostalgic challenges with music formats and hint at new music discoveries, including a recommendation for Canadian artist Noah Derksen.
The Kilans - “Why Is It Light Out?” (song)
(https://open.spotify.com/track/5gv1den7j8J3py14QjSDAP?si=bb9331d876d2450f)
band website: https://thekilans.com/
Wilderado - “Talker” (album)
(https://open.spotify.com/album/1CPOzsnaDG487fMP34wKW3?si=y5JSzxvnQlS7YS2dpmTZyQ)
band website: https://www.wilderado.co/
hosts: Glen Erickson, Alexi Erickson
AFE website: https://www.almostfamousenough.com
AFE instagram: https://www.instagram.com/almostfamousenough
Almost Famous Enough Spotify playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1o1PRD2X0i3Otmpn8vi2zP?si=1ece497360564480
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Series Overview
00:44 Song Exchange Format Explained
01:20 Lexi's Song Choice: Backstory and Significance
02:15 The Song That Captured a Trip
04:34 Revealing the Song: 'Why Is It Light Out?'
05:30 Protecting Special Songs and Memories
10:09 Album Discussion: Wilderado's 'Talker'
17:32 Upcoming Music Events and Recommendations
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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Glen Erickson (00:18):
no, I was just gonna, I don't want to, we don't
need to do a cheesy intro.
This is, uh, cheeky.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Okay.
this is episode three of oursummer series Post Fame Plus.
hi Lexi.
alexi (00:33):
Oh, hi.
Glen Erickson (00:36):
Uh, we're trying some new things out.
not always super successfully,but that's okay.
we're gonna work some of thisstuff out, but,
alexi (00:43):
Yep.
Glen Erickson (00:44):
quickly, uh, once again, four part series in the
summer we are doing some songexchange.
We're.
One person brings a song, oneperson brings an album.
We've done two weeks of these.
We flip the seats back around
alexi (00:59):
Yes.
Glen Erickson (00:59):
week, back to you taking, uh, a song to share a
single song, and I'm gonna sharean album.
alexi (01:06):
Yeah,
Glen Erickson (01:07):
So, that means you get to go first.
alexi (01:11):
I think so.
Is that how we did
Glen Erickson (01:14):
I think that's what that means.
I think that's what that means.
Yeah.
alexi (01:17):
Okay.
Well that's awesome then.
okay.
I, I feel like this is, The bestsong that I've given up on the
podcast so far.
I'll start strong saying that.
Glen Erickson (01:29):
Oh wow.
Okay.
Big swing again.
alexi (01:32):
Big
Glen Erickson (01:32):
I love it.
alexi (01:33):
yeah, and I literally, I considered, this is so terrible
because you know how all for Iam with like.
Music sharing and just likeputting other people on and that
whole culture.
Um, and I'm so against the wholelike jokey, like gatekeeper
stuff.
there was a part of me that waslike, I don't really wanna share
this.
'cause if people startlistening, like not my little
(01:55):
niche song anymore, but, uh, Igot over myself.
it's okay.
Glen Erickson (02:00):
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Are you suggesting that youthink you might gate keep a band
for the whole world?
alexi (02:06):
Not for the whole world, but just for like, the community
that I'm in.
Uh,
Glen Erickson (02:14):
Okay.
alexi (02:15):
okay, okay.
I'll start with the backstorybefore I say it, um, because
it's more fun, fun that way.
But when I was in Europe lastsummer, um, you know, I flew
there alone, met a friend, alittle bit backpack in, um.
Glen Erickson (02:30):
Mm-hmm.
alexi (02:31):
When I was there, I was like dating, kind of talking to
um, Eric, who's now like mycurrent boyfriend.
and he sent me this song and itwas one of the first that he had
ever really sent me.
And it just like mimicked mywhole trip, like encapsulated my
(02:53):
entire Europe trip and theexperience that I had so
perfectly.
and I instantly, like I, Iplayed it so much when I was
there.
I remember I was in Germany andI was in my friend's house, in
their little bathroom.
I had this big window open inthere and this big skylight and
(03:14):
from the shower,'cause theircurtains are different, you
would just see out this wholewindow and it was just like this
beautiful, like sunset.
But it looked like the sun waslike coming down.
And the song was playing off myphone on the little Edge, um,
and I was like, oh, this song isjust like this trip.
And so every
Glen Erickson (03:32):
So are you, are you saying it?
You mean, do you actually meanthat it, it imprinted itself
alexi (03:39):
yeah,
Glen Erickson (03:40):
the whole trip?
In other words, it's kind ofwoven into every memory that you
have.
alexi (03:44):
Every, when I think about that trip, this song comes to
mind
Glen Erickson (03:50):
Hmm.
alexi (03:50):
of it.
And when I hear the song.
All I can think about is a trip.
Like it's, they're woventogether and I didn't expect
that to happen.
Um,
Glen Erickson (03:58):
Yeah.
alexi (03:59):
but anyways, so Oopsies, let me pop this
Glen Erickson (04:03):
Are you also subtly implying or suggesting
that this is the reason that younow have your current boyfriend
is because he locked in bysending you the song that was
locked into your great trip?
alexi (04:18):
You know what?
Glen Erickson (04:19):
I don't know.
Seems a little, A little bitsubtle.
alexi (04:22):
for him.
I believe he definitely knewwhat he was doing.
yeah, that was honestly greatplay by him.
I'll, I'll give him that
Glen Erickson (04:30):
That's good game.
Yeah, that's good game.
Okay.
alexi (04:33):
Yeah.
Um, this is the song's called,why Is It Light Out?
Um, by the Keans.
Klons.
I don't know how to pronouncethe band title.
an arguable topic between myboyfriend and I for sure.
I say the Keans or the Kans,it's K-I-L-A-N-S.
Um, but Why Is It Light Out?
(04:56):
It's genuinely like of 2024.
I think this was like one of mytop songs and like holds a
special place in my heart to thepoint where if I'm like driving.
And I have like a shuffle on andit starts playing and I'm not
having just like a peak day orI'm not like in a great mood.
(05:17):
I skip it.
'cause I don't want the song tobe tarnished and it's so,
Glen Erickson (05:24):
Wow.
alexi (05:25):
But I do, I do and I have no shame.
Glen Erickson (05:28):
No, no, that's not stupid.
I, I heard, I heard a study, Iheard someone talking about a
study on a podcast about.
What they're learning about thebrain and memories and where
they live in the, in our brain,and that every it's, they think
that it's almost like every timeyou access it.
You might be able to tarnish itwith whatever your current mood
(05:51):
or state or stuff is in, andthat it'll like kind of change
that memory permanently just alittle bit every time.
But, uh, I don't know if that'sfully true or not, but it sort
of holds true with what you'resaying if you don't want to, uh,
change what that song means orholds.
Okay.
I have something quick to saybefore you tell me more about
(06:12):
why you love the song maybe,but.
Uh, for, I, I get a lot ofcomments that people enjoy you
and I doing this thing.
It's a nice surprise.
They, of course, are under this,obvious guise that you and I are
super close and we love musicand we share everything
together.
So just so everybody knowsthings aren't perfect in La la
(06:35):
Land, you've never ever sharedthis song with me before.
How can we be this close doingthis podcast and then.
If I hadn't come up with thistheme, you would never have told
me this song.
That means so incredibly much toyou.
alexi (06:50):
okay.
Hear me up though.
Let's say we're driving to thegym in the morning.
I'd play it and you're like,yeah, it's all right.
actually think my heart wouldlike start cracking falling into
my
Glen Erickson (07:02):
Oh my goodness.
Okay, so this is, yeah, this,this song, it, this song is like
a, a very like.
It's like when you would've mademe some ceramic pottery candle
holder in grade three, and now Ihave to tuck it away and not let
(07:23):
anybody see it or even handle itagain, because it's probably
gonna break the first time Itouch it.
alexi (07:28):
Yeah.
Yeah.
See
Glen Erickson (07:30):
Okay, I get it.
alexi (07:30):
this is why I was saying gatekeeping, that was the wrong
term.
It's not that I wanna gate keepit, it, like, I'm just, I don't
want it to be ruined.
Glen Erickson (07:40):
You are fiercely protecting it for yourself
alexi (07:43):
Yeah.
I.
Glen Erickson (07:44):
and what it means to you.
alexi (07:46):
A
Glen Erickson (07:47):
Okay,
alexi (07:47):
I will
Glen Erickson (07:48):
that's fair.
alexi (07:48):
it once very briefly on my Instagram
Glen Erickson (07:53):
I.
alexi (07:53):
When I was in Europe.
I posted a video of like, it waslike me laying on like one of
the beds I was staying in andthen just like up and having my
phone just like kind ofoutwardly go through the window.
And then it was just like.
Skyscape and Sunset, and it'scalled, Why Is It Light Out?
And the, it just fit.
(08:15):
Um,
Glen Erickson (08:16):
Yeah.
alexi (08:16):
probably had the story up for four or five hours and then
I deleted it.
I didn't, I didn't, didn't wannashare.
Glen Erickson (08:26):
Okay, so this is like a super, this is a high
risk move for you then,everything you've just
described.
alexi (08:33):
if
Glen Erickson (08:33):
Are you in immediate regret right now?
alexi (08:35):
You know what?
No, because I actually talkedthrough this with my boyfriend
before I chose it because I waslike, I'm nervous.
Um, but I was like, no, becauseif any of your friends don't
like it, um, don't tell me.
And if they tell me, thenobvious that we just can't be
friends with them anymore.
And that's just that.
I think also all the rest oftheir songs are good.
(08:57):
they don't have a lot of,they're going on their first
tour right now without theirfirst album out, which is kind
of fire.
Um, so
Glen Erickson (09:03):
So it's the killins
alexi (09:05):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (09:07):
and it's important that we spell this
again for people because I wouldprobably look at this and think
just killins and, but it's, it'skill like with one L, so it's
K-I-L-A-N-S.
It's almost looks like it wouldbe a family name, like a, a
weird family name.
But, yeah, so it looks like it'sjust the.
(09:29):
Killins, K-I-L-A-N-S.
So if people wanna look it up,we will put the song, of course,
on our Spotify playlist and inthe show notes if people access
those, uh, wherever they'relistening to the podcast, if
they wanna look it up.
Or it'll be on the website too,maybe eventually.
So, well that's fantastic.
In fact, that's, um, incrediblebackstory, twist and turn there
(09:54):
and that you.
Bravely put that song out.
I absolutely love it.
alexi (09:58):
Brave is a really good
Glen Erickson (09:59):
Okay.
Brave is a really good word forthat.
I appreciate courage.
Um, okay then let's switchthings over to album.
Uh, you know how I wrestle withthis, I actually pinpointed my
wrestling match with this, whichis, just the modern change in
music and how we listen.
(10:20):
Is that we don't listen toalbums as albums much anymore.
And we kind of have talked aboutthis and um, and so albums that
I can quickly access as likepillars or memorable or ones I
think everybody should know.
Like the way I shared the lastone with the war on drugs.
Those are easy for me, butthey're in the past, like
they're
alexi (10:40):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (10:40):
a little or a long ways back and I have an
endless amount.
So if I wanted to access thatpool of.
Albums.
I have all kinds, but it feelsso dated to me.
So I started really trying tothink what is something that I
just couldn't stop listening to?
And then that joy to me of analbum is when you start playing
it and you have no desire toturn it off once you've heard
(11:04):
the song or, or something likethat.
Right?
Like it's just that they, yeah.
So, so that one for me, when Ireally took a look at it and is
also a 2024.
Release, which I absolutelyloved.
so probably in my top five bestindie rock songs of the last
(11:26):
five or more years.
alexi (11:28):
okay.
Glen Erickson (11:30):
So you probably, I saw you just have your eyes
kind of roll back.
In other words, you're trying,you're already trying to think.
You should be able to probablyknow what those are.
The best song.
Uh, one of the best songs, topFive for me, indie Rock songs in
the last five years, I wouldGive Anybody in a Heartbeat, is
Surefire by Wilderado andendlessly listened to that song.
(11:56):
It, it ends up in my shamelessin my, um, Spotify top couple
list for the last few years.
So last year they released a newalbum called Talker.
They really slow-balled thatrelease.
It was like song, song, song andthen five song EP going into the
summer.
And I listened to that five songEP religiously through the
(12:20):
summer, as you know.
And then they released the fullalbum, I think.
And I absolutely love it.
So it's called Talker.
It's by the band Wilderado, whoI think is just an
underappreciated.
Band probably still, I find veryfew people in my circles who
know about them.
Maybe that's the reason theynever seem to come and play
shows or tour in Canada, whichis kind of killing me.
alexi (12:43):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (12:43):
And so the reason I'll tell everybody that I love
this band so much is I'm asucker for indie rock, of
course.
Um, but there is a.
Like the song Surefire is big,right?
It gets to a nice, big, happyfeeling.
Like very few songs make me justfeel as good when that one hits
(13:05):
the chorus, which is what a,almost like any pop song or
great rock song does.
But what the band really doeswell, actually to me is create.
Lots of grooves, lots of subtlemomentum without having to be
heavy handed in anything.
They right.
They don't get super loud withtheir guitars.
(13:27):
They don't get massivelylayered.
They don't have theseridiculously layered background
vocals all the time.
Um, but they put together thesimple pieces so well, every
single time they do a song, itseems that they just find a
groove and an idea and a littlehook.
And those are really thebuilding blocks of any great
song.
So what I'm saying is I thinkthat this band has, for me, kind
(13:50):
of figured that out.
And when you can feel it on analbum, so like the first song is
the title Track Talker.
And then the second song is BadLuck, which I really like.
And then the fourth song, it'scalled Higher Than Most I Really
Like.
And then the sixth song iscalled In Between, which is
maybe my second or thirdfavorite.
And then the.
The eighth song is calledSometimes, and I think that's my
(14:13):
second or third, maybe secondfavorite on the album.
And then the song tomorrow.
Uh, anyhow, I absolutely love,and, and that's down to Song
Nine.
So you're getting consistentlyan album like that and I don't
get that anymore with a lot ofthese
alexi (14:33):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (14:33):
bands, like really great bands and great
songs.
But anyhow, so those are thethings that appeal to me.
In an album, and there'ssomething about their particular
style of doing it that iscontinuing to grow on me year
after year.
And I think that's the album forme.
So
alexi (14:51):
I
Glen Erickson (14:52):
yeah,
alexi (14:53):
I literally, as you just said
Glen Erickson (14:55):
I.
alexi (14:55):
I'm not gonna tell you what, but you said a, a key
phrase in there that when youand I were talking about like
kinda.
Back in December or January whenwe were doing Spotify wrapped,
were talking about like whatmakes like our top albums or top
songs and we both decided onsomething and now I know what
I'm gonna say next episode formy album.
So we can record whenever wecan.
Glen Erickson (15:17):
Oh,
alexi (15:18):
Uh, I
Glen Erickson (15:19):
to go right after this?
That's funny.
alexi (15:21):
no, literally as soon as you said that.
'cause when we were talkingabout it a few months back, you
brought up this album and adifferent one and I had brought
up a certain album.
Glen Erickson (15:30):
Mm mm.
alexi (15:30):
About like how the whole thing, you can just listen and
there's like zero complaints,like, you know, a lot of albums
have like that one or two songswhere you need to skip it.
We're talking about
Glen Erickson (15:41):
Yeah.
alexi (15:41):
how this one,
Glen Erickson (15:42):
Yeah.
alexi (15:43):
that you just mentioned doesn't, and the one I'm gonna
say love
Glen Erickson (15:48):
you wanna hear a, you wanna hear an old man's
music story or a, an oldergenerational experience with the
Skip a song.
This is how you sort of canthree or four x that
frustration, which is when allmy music came on cassette tapes.
alexi (16:07):
Um,
Glen Erickson (16:07):
So it's like the wound tape.
Right?
alexi (16:10):
yeah.
Glen Erickson (16:10):
And they would have.
The same is now, they would havethis average of 10 songs, 11, 12
songs on a release,
alexi (16:19):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (16:19):
a cassette tape would have five or six on one
side and five or six on thesecond side, and the worst was
if the last song on side A orside B for that matter, maybe
even worse on side B if the lastsong sucked.
And you wanted to just flip theca the cassette over, which you
had to go walk over and manuallyhit eject and then pop and turn
(16:40):
around and then press playagain.
But then it won't be at the verystart and then you gotta do a
rewind and it wouldn't be ready.
And it was just so frustratingif the Skip a song was gonna
mess with your ability to justkeep flowing on into the next
song you wanted to hear.
'cause the first song on eitherside was always good, right?
They, they knew how to map itout.
(17:02):
Anyhow.
alexi (17:03):
Oh.
Glen Erickson (17:03):
Um, old man, first world problems.
That's what we'll categorizethat as, but Okay.
Uh, I love it too.
Um, okay, well, thank you.
I love that, uh, the Killins orhowever we're gonna figure,
maybe we'll do some Googling andfigure out how to,
alexi (17:20):
To,
Glen Erickson (17:21):
you know, probably and we could follow up
with that.
And then WIlderado's albumTalker.
alexi (17:26):
Yes.
Glen Erickson (17:26):
Um.
Our, our picks this week and Ithought I was gonna slide in
'cause we were talking about it.
We're we're prepping forstarting to prep to get ready
for one of our favorite thingswhere we live in Edmonton with
our folk fest and the lineup.
And, uh, I'm, I swear I'm notgonna miss anything great this
(17:48):
year without, I have so manyregrets in other years, which is
my.
Uh, well, Lexi, this is myEaster egg into next week's e
episode.
You just gave me an Easter eggabout your pick.
My Easter egg is going to bethat.
And, um, the other, the otherthing cool thing is that, uh,
(18:10):
I've been talking to some folksabout some other music events
and festivals and maybe.
Having some Almost Famous enoughappearances as such.
And, and as a result I'm gettingintroduced to some new kind of
local Western Canada ish, up andcoming Canadian artists.
Um, and I talked to you aboutone this morning, so I'm just
(18:33):
gonna drop since this is, uh, usjust saying artists and
recommendations to people wholisten.
Uh.
That in all the things I've beencoming across this, the last
little while, the, there's avoice that stood out to me and
his name's Noah Derksen.
He's from somewhere here inCanada.
I have to figure it out.
(18:54):
Um, but it's that new and freshon me.
Noah, how you normally spellNoah.
And then Derksen, likeD-E-R-K-S-E-N, uh, Canadian
artist, Noah Derksen.
He's the one that was playingthose cover songs in the car.
Yeah.
Um, and my reference point forpeople will be the voice of Ray
(19:15):
Lamont, which is one of the mostu uniquely, well just unique
voices period that I've everheard.
And um, so I think people shouldcheck out that guy's music that
I came across.
So, yeah.
Okay.
That's it.
Okay.
Awesome.
(19:35):
Thank you so much for your timeas always, and I'm looking
forward to our last, our lastpart of the series for number
four, so,
alexi (19:43):
be a fun one.
Glen Erickson (19:44):
okay.
alexi (19:45):
Okay.
Bye.
Glen Erickson (19:45):
Woohoo.
Okay.
Bye.
I love you.
alexi (19:47):
Love you too.
no, I was just gonna, I don't want to, we don't
need to do a cheesy intro.
This is, uh, cheeky.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Okay.
this is episode three of oursummer series Post Fame Plus.
hi Lexi.
alexi (00:33):
Oh, hi.
Glen Erickson (00:36):
Uh, we're trying some new things out.
not always super successfully,but that's okay.
we're gonna work some of thisstuff out, but,
alexi (00:43):
Yep.
Glen Erickson (00:44):
quickly, uh, once again, four part series in the
summer we are doing some songexchange.
We're.
One person brings a song, oneperson brings an album.
We've done two weeks of these.
We flip the seats back around
alexi (00:59):
Yes.
Glen Erickson (00:59):
week, back to you taking, uh, a song to share a
single song, and I'm gonna sharean album.
alexi (01:06):
Yeah,
Glen Erickson (01:07):
So, that means you get to go first.
alexi (01:11):
I think so.
Is that how we did
Glen Erickson (01:14):
I think that's what that means.
I think that's what that means.
Yeah.
alexi (01:17):
Okay.
Well that's awesome then.
okay.
I, I feel like this is, The bestsong that I've given up on the
podcast so far.
I'll start strong saying that.
Glen Erickson (01:29):
Oh wow.
Okay.
Big swing again.
alexi (01:32):
Big
Glen Erickson (01:32):
I love it.
alexi (01:33):
yeah, and I literally, I considered, this is so terrible
because you know how all for Iam with like.
Music sharing and just likeputting other people on and that
whole culture.
Um, and I'm so against the wholelike jokey, like gatekeeper
stuff.
there was a part of me that waslike, I don't really wanna share
this.
'cause if people startlistening, like not my little
(01:55):
niche song anymore, but, uh, Igot over myself.
it's okay.
Glen Erickson (02:00):
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Are you suggesting that youthink you might gate keep a band
for the whole world?
alexi (02:06):
Not for the whole world, but just for like, the community
that I'm in.
Uh,
Glen Erickson (02:14):
Okay.
alexi (02:15):
okay, okay.
I'll start with the backstorybefore I say it, um, because
it's more fun, fun that way.
But when I was in Europe lastsummer, um, you know, I flew
there alone, met a friend, alittle bit backpack in, um.
Glen Erickson (02:30):
Mm-hmm.
alexi (02:31):
When I was there, I was like dating, kind of talking to
um, Eric, who's now like mycurrent boyfriend.
and he sent me this song and itwas one of the first that he had
ever really sent me.
And it just like mimicked mywhole trip, like encapsulated my
(02:53):
entire Europe trip and theexperience that I had so
perfectly.
and I instantly, like I, Iplayed it so much when I was
there.
I remember I was in Germany andI was in my friend's house, in
their little bathroom.
I had this big window open inthere and this big skylight and
(03:14):
from the shower,'cause theircurtains are different, you
would just see out this wholewindow and it was just like this
beautiful, like sunset.
But it looked like the sun waslike coming down.
And the song was playing off myphone on the little Edge, um,
and I was like, oh, this song isjust like this trip.
And so every
Glen Erickson (03:32):
So are you, are you saying it?
You mean, do you actually meanthat it, it imprinted itself
alexi (03:39):
yeah,
Glen Erickson (03:40):
the whole trip?
In other words, it's kind ofwoven into every memory that you
have.
alexi (03:44):
Every, when I think about that trip, this song comes to
mind
Glen Erickson (03:50):
Hmm.
alexi (03:50):
of it.
And when I hear the song.
All I can think about is a trip.
Like it's, they're woventogether and I didn't expect
that to happen.
Um,
Glen Erickson (03:58):
Yeah.
alexi (03:59):
but anyways, so Oopsies, let me pop this
Glen Erickson (04:03):
Are you also subtly implying or suggesting
that this is the reason that younow have your current boyfriend
is because he locked in bysending you the song that was
locked into your great trip?
alexi (04:18):
You know what?
Glen Erickson (04:19):
I don't know.
Seems a little, A little bitsubtle.
alexi (04:22):
for him.
I believe he definitely knewwhat he was doing.
yeah, that was honestly greatplay by him.
I'll, I'll give him that
Glen Erickson (04:30):
That's good game.
Yeah, that's good game.
Okay.
alexi (04:33):
Yeah.
Um, this is the song's called,why Is It Light Out?
Um, by the Keans.
Klons.
I don't know how to pronouncethe band title.
an arguable topic between myboyfriend and I for sure.
I say the Keans or the Kans,it's K-I-L-A-N-S.
Um, but Why Is It Light Out?
(04:56):
It's genuinely like of 2024.
I think this was like one of mytop songs and like holds a
special place in my heart to thepoint where if I'm like driving.
And I have like a shuffle on andit starts playing and I'm not
having just like a peak day orI'm not like in a great mood.
(05:17):
I skip it.
'cause I don't want the song tobe tarnished and it's so,
Glen Erickson (05:24):
Wow.
alexi (05:25):
But I do, I do and I have no shame.
Glen Erickson (05:28):
No, no, that's not stupid.
I, I heard, I heard a study, Iheard someone talking about a
study on a podcast about.
What they're learning about thebrain and memories and where
they live in the, in our brain,and that every it's, they think
that it's almost like every timeyou access it.
You might be able to tarnish itwith whatever your current mood
(05:51):
or state or stuff is in, andthat it'll like kind of change
that memory permanently just alittle bit every time.
But, uh, I don't know if that'sfully true or not, but it sort
of holds true with what you'resaying if you don't want to, uh,
change what that song means orholds.
Okay.
I have something quick to saybefore you tell me more about
(06:12):
why you love the song maybe,but.
Uh, for, I, I get a lot ofcomments that people enjoy you
and I doing this thing.
It's a nice surprise.
They, of course, are under this,obvious guise that you and I are
super close and we love musicand we share everything
together.
So just so everybody knowsthings aren't perfect in La la
(06:35):
Land, you've never ever sharedthis song with me before.
How can we be this close doingthis podcast and then.
If I hadn't come up with thistheme, you would never have told
me this song.
That means so incredibly much toyou.
alexi (06:50):
okay.
Hear me up though.
Let's say we're driving to thegym in the morning.
I'd play it and you're like,yeah, it's all right.
actually think my heart wouldlike start cracking falling into
my
Glen Erickson (07:02):
Oh my goodness.
Okay, so this is, yeah, this,this song, it, this song is like
a, a very like.
It's like when you would've mademe some ceramic pottery candle
holder in grade three, and now Ihave to tuck it away and not let
(07:23):
anybody see it or even handle itagain, because it's probably
gonna break the first time Itouch it.
alexi (07:28):
Yeah.
Yeah.
See
Glen Erickson (07:30):
Okay, I get it.
alexi (07:30):
this is why I was saying gatekeeping, that was the wrong
term.
It's not that I wanna gate keepit, it, like, I'm just, I don't
want it to be ruined.
Glen Erickson (07:40):
You are fiercely protecting it for yourself
alexi (07:43):
Yeah.
I.
Glen Erickson (07:44):
and what it means to you.
alexi (07:46):
A
Glen Erickson (07:47):
Okay,
alexi (07:47):
I will
Glen Erickson (07:48):
that's fair.
alexi (07:48):
it once very briefly on my Instagram
Glen Erickson (07:53):
I.
alexi (07:53):
When I was in Europe.
I posted a video of like, it waslike me laying on like one of
the beds I was staying in andthen just like up and having my
phone just like kind ofoutwardly go through the window.
And then it was just like.
Skyscape and Sunset, and it'scalled, Why Is It Light Out?
And the, it just fit.
(08:15):
Um,
Glen Erickson (08:16):
Yeah.
alexi (08:16):
probably had the story up for four or five hours and then
I deleted it.
I didn't, I didn't, didn't wannashare.
Glen Erickson (08:26):
Okay, so this is like a super, this is a high
risk move for you then,everything you've just
described.
alexi (08:33):
if
Glen Erickson (08:33):
Are you in immediate regret right now?
alexi (08:35):
You know what?
No, because I actually talkedthrough this with my boyfriend
before I chose it because I waslike, I'm nervous.
Um, but I was like, no, becauseif any of your friends don't
like it, um, don't tell me.
And if they tell me, thenobvious that we just can't be
friends with them anymore.
And that's just that.
I think also all the rest oftheir songs are good.
(08:57):
they don't have a lot of,they're going on their first
tour right now without theirfirst album out, which is kind
of fire.
Um, so
Glen Erickson (09:03):
So it's the killins
alexi (09:05):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (09:07):
and it's important that we spell this
again for people because I wouldprobably look at this and think
just killins and, but it's, it'skill like with one L, so it's
K-I-L-A-N-S.
It's almost looks like it wouldbe a family name, like a, a
weird family name.
But, yeah, so it looks like it'sjust the.
(09:29):
Killins, K-I-L-A-N-S.
So if people wanna look it up,we will put the song, of course,
on our Spotify playlist and inthe show notes if people access
those, uh, wherever they'relistening to the podcast, if
they wanna look it up.
Or it'll be on the website too,maybe eventually.
So, well that's fantastic.
In fact, that's, um, incrediblebackstory, twist and turn there
(09:54):
and that you.
Bravely put that song out.
I absolutely love it.
alexi (09:58):
Brave is a really good
Glen Erickson (09:59):
Okay.
Brave is a really good word forthat.
I appreciate courage.
Um, okay then let's switchthings over to album.
Uh, you know how I wrestle withthis, I actually pinpointed my
wrestling match with this, whichis, just the modern change in
music and how we listen.
(10:20):
Is that we don't listen toalbums as albums much anymore.
And we kind of have talked aboutthis and um, and so albums that
I can quickly access as likepillars or memorable or ones I
think everybody should know.
Like the way I shared the lastone with the war on drugs.
Those are easy for me, butthey're in the past, like
they're
alexi (10:40):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (10:40):
a little or a long ways back and I have an
endless amount.
So if I wanted to access thatpool of.
Albums.
I have all kinds, but it feelsso dated to me.
So I started really trying tothink what is something that I
just couldn't stop listening to?
And then that joy to me of analbum is when you start playing
it and you have no desire toturn it off once you've heard
(11:04):
the song or, or something likethat.
Right?
Like it's just that they, yeah.
So, so that one for me, when Ireally took a look at it and is
also a 2024.
Release, which I absolutelyloved.
so probably in my top five bestindie rock songs of the last
(11:26):
five or more years.
alexi (11:28):
okay.
Glen Erickson (11:30):
So you probably, I saw you just have your eyes
kind of roll back.
In other words, you're trying,you're already trying to think.
You should be able to probablyknow what those are.
The best song.
Uh, one of the best songs, topFive for me, indie Rock songs in
the last five years, I wouldGive Anybody in a Heartbeat, is
Surefire by Wilderado andendlessly listened to that song.
(11:56):
It, it ends up in my shamelessin my, um, Spotify top couple
list for the last few years.
So last year they released a newalbum called Talker.
They really slow-balled thatrelease.
It was like song, song, song andthen five song EP going into the
summer.
And I listened to that five songEP religiously through the
(12:20):
summer, as you know.
And then they released the fullalbum, I think.
And I absolutely love it.
So it's called Talker.
It's by the band Wilderado, whoI think is just an
underappreciated.
Band probably still, I find veryfew people in my circles who
know about them.
Maybe that's the reason theynever seem to come and play
shows or tour in Canada, whichis kind of killing me.
alexi (12:43):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (12:43):
And so the reason I'll tell everybody that I love
this band so much is I'm asucker for indie rock, of
course.
Um, but there is a.
Like the song Surefire is big,right?
It gets to a nice, big, happyfeeling.
Like very few songs make me justfeel as good when that one hits
(13:05):
the chorus, which is what a,almost like any pop song or
great rock song does.
But what the band really doeswell, actually to me is create.
Lots of grooves, lots of subtlemomentum without having to be
heavy handed in anything.
They right.
They don't get super loud withtheir guitars.
(13:27):
They don't get massivelylayered.
They don't have theseridiculously layered background
vocals all the time.
Um, but they put together thesimple pieces so well, every
single time they do a song, itseems that they just find a
groove and an idea and a littlehook.
And those are really thebuilding blocks of any great
song.
So what I'm saying is I thinkthat this band has, for me, kind
(13:50):
of figured that out.
And when you can feel it on analbum, so like the first song is
the title Track Talker.
And then the second song is BadLuck, which I really like.
And then the fourth song, it'scalled Higher Than Most I Really
Like.
And then the sixth song iscalled In Between, which is
maybe my second or thirdfavorite.
And then the.
The eighth song is calledSometimes, and I think that's my
(14:13):
second or third, maybe secondfavorite on the album.
And then the song tomorrow.
Uh, anyhow, I absolutely love,and, and that's down to Song
Nine.
So you're getting consistentlyan album like that and I don't
get that anymore with a lot ofthese
alexi (14:33):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (14:33):
bands, like really great bands and great
songs.
But anyhow, so those are thethings that appeal to me.
In an album, and there'ssomething about their particular
style of doing it that iscontinuing to grow on me year
after year.
And I think that's the album forme.
So
alexi (14:51):
I
Glen Erickson (14:52):
yeah,
alexi (14:53):
I literally, as you just said
Glen Erickson (14:55):
I.
alexi (14:55):
I'm not gonna tell you what, but you said a, a key
phrase in there that when youand I were talking about like
kinda.
Back in December or January whenwe were doing Spotify wrapped,
were talking about like whatmakes like our top albums or top
songs and we both decided onsomething and now I know what
I'm gonna say next episode formy album.
So we can record whenever wecan.
Glen Erickson (15:17):
Oh,
alexi (15:18):
Uh, I
Glen Erickson (15:19):
to go right after this?
That's funny.
alexi (15:21):
no, literally as soon as you said that.
'cause when we were talkingabout it a few months back, you
brought up this album and adifferent one and I had brought
up a certain album.
Glen Erickson (15:30):
Mm mm.
alexi (15:30):
About like how the whole thing, you can just listen and
there's like zero complaints,like, you know, a lot of albums
have like that one or two songswhere you need to skip it.
We're talking about
Glen Erickson (15:41):
Yeah.
alexi (15:41):
how this one,
Glen Erickson (15:42):
Yeah.
alexi (15:43):
that you just mentioned doesn't, and the one I'm gonna
say love
Glen Erickson (15:48):
you wanna hear a, you wanna hear an old man's
music story or a, an oldergenerational experience with the
Skip a song.
This is how you sort of canthree or four x that
frustration, which is when allmy music came on cassette tapes.
alexi (16:07):
Um,
Glen Erickson (16:07):
So it's like the wound tape.
Right?
alexi (16:10):
yeah.
Glen Erickson (16:10):
And they would have.
The same is now, they would havethis average of 10 songs, 11, 12
songs on a release,
alexi (16:19):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (16:19):
a cassette tape would have five or six on one
side and five or six on thesecond side, and the worst was
if the last song on side A orside B for that matter, maybe
even worse on side B if the lastsong sucked.
And you wanted to just flip theca the cassette over, which you
had to go walk over and manuallyhit eject and then pop and turn
(16:40):
around and then press playagain.
But then it won't be at the verystart and then you gotta do a
rewind and it wouldn't be ready.
And it was just so frustratingif the Skip a song was gonna
mess with your ability to justkeep flowing on into the next
song you wanted to hear.
'cause the first song on eitherside was always good, right?
They, they knew how to map itout.
(17:02):
Anyhow.
alexi (17:03):
Oh.
Glen Erickson (17:03):
Um, old man, first world problems.
That's what we'll categorizethat as, but Okay.
Uh, I love it too.
Um, okay, well, thank you.
I love that, uh, the Killins orhowever we're gonna figure,
maybe we'll do some Googling andfigure out how to,
alexi (17:20):
To,
Glen Erickson (17:21):
you know, probably and we could follow up
with that.
And then WIlderado's albumTalker.
alexi (17:26):
Yes.
Glen Erickson (17:26):
Um.
Our, our picks this week and Ithought I was gonna slide in
'cause we were talking about it.
We're we're prepping forstarting to prep to get ready
for one of our favorite thingswhere we live in Edmonton with
our folk fest and the lineup.
And, uh, I'm, I swear I'm notgonna miss anything great this
(17:48):
year without, I have so manyregrets in other years, which is
my.
Uh, well, Lexi, this is myEaster egg into next week's e
episode.
You just gave me an Easter eggabout your pick.
My Easter egg is going to bethat.
And, um, the other, the otherthing cool thing is that, uh,
(18:10):
I've been talking to some folksabout some other music events
and festivals and maybe.
Having some Almost Famous enoughappearances as such.
And, and as a result I'm gettingintroduced to some new kind of
local Western Canada ish, up andcoming Canadian artists.
Um, and I talked to you aboutone this morning, so I'm just
(18:33):
gonna drop since this is, uh, usjust saying artists and
recommendations to people wholisten.
Uh.
That in all the things I've beencoming across this, the last
little while, the, there's avoice that stood out to me and
his name's Noah Derksen.
He's from somewhere here inCanada.
I have to figure it out.
(18:54):
Um, but it's that new and freshon me.
Noah, how you normally spellNoah.
And then Derksen, likeD-E-R-K-S-E-N, uh, Canadian
artist, Noah Derksen.
He's the one that was playingthose cover songs in the car.
Yeah.
Um, and my reference point forpeople will be the voice of Ray
(19:15):
Lamont, which is one of the mostu uniquely, well just unique
voices period that I've everheard.
And um, so I think people shouldcheck out that guy's music that
I came across.
So, yeah.
Okay.
That's it.
Okay.
Awesome.
(19:35):
Thank you so much for your timeas always, and I'm looking
forward to our last, our lastpart of the series for number
four, so,
alexi (19:43):
be a fun one.
Glen Erickson (19:44):
okay.
alexi (19:45):
Okay.
Bye.
Glen Erickson (19:45):
Woohoo.
Okay.
Bye.
I love you.
alexi (19:47):
Love you too.
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