July 11, 2025 • 20 mins
s1.4 Post-Fame Plus
July 11, 2025
00:20:22
Hosts Glen Erickson and Alexi Erickson deliver the final summer installment of Post-Fame Plus, and discuss their regrets of missing specific performances at the Edmonton Folk Fest, highlighting Kevin Morby and his song 'This is a Photograph.' They also delve into their favorite albums, with Alexi praising Joe P's 'Garden State Vampire' and its diverse yet cohesive songs. The episode wraps up with Glen sharing news about partnering with Lemmon Entertainment for Music Day in Canada and urging listeners to engage with their content to help grow the podcast.
Kevin Morby - “This Is A Photograph” (song)
(https://open.spotify.com/track/1hj8os1Xxiuo95atpJzfCp?si=03c5d1b85dc34446)
band website: https://www.kevinmorby.com/
Joe P - “Garden State Vampire” (album)
(https://open.spotify.com/album/6u3QEf6nMmYlCsV4RDC5BM?si=by0YAComQzm3nUXMGOfqmA)
band website: https://www.joepthehyena.com/
hosts: Glen Erickson, Alexi Erickson
AFE website: https://www.almostfamousenough.com
AFE instagram: https://www.instagram.com/almostfamousenough
Almost Famous Enough Spotify playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1o1PRD2X0i3Otmpn8vi2zP?si=1ece497360564480
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Apology for Delay
01:10 Kicking Off the Summer Series
02:13 Song Choice: Kevin Morby's 'This is a Photograph'
04:39 Deep Dive into Kevin Morby's Song
09:42 Album Choice: Joe P's 'Garden State Vampire'
14:14 Honorable Mentions and Additional Recommendations
16:40 Upcoming Season and New Partnerships
19:50 Closing Remarks and Farewell
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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Glen Erickson (00:18):
Seemed so upset that I had it wrong,
alexi (00:21):
I was like, well, crap, because what if you have it
wrong?
And now we're
Glen Erickson (00:25):
and,
alexi (00:26):
album.
Glen Erickson (00:26):
and then we would be sitting here unprepared,
which, which we're already,wearing a little bit of
unpreparedness openly becauseit's, uh, it's Thursday as we
record this, which normally wewould've posted it.
We've posted Thursday morningsince we started.
That's our schedule.
And you and I both completelyblitzed on what day it was.
alexi (00:48):
Like, I wish we could go
Glen Erickson (00:50):
uh,
alexi (00:50):
our conversation last night.
'cause we probably just seenlike insane people.
Glen Erickson (00:54):
yeah.
'cause we were just talking likeit was the day before.
Clearly, like a hundred percent.
Well, we've probablydisappointed 20 people, so I
apologize to those 20 people whomight have expected something
this morning.
I'm being a little facetious, ofcourse, but that's the way it
goes.
Okay, well this is, uh, this isnumber four, Lexie.
And of Post Fame Plus our summerseries, uh, between myself, your
(01:20):
host, Glen Erickson, and, uh,Lexi Alexi Erickson, also your
host.
yeah, so let's, let's kick rightinto it, except I don't remember
who usually took a turn to gofirst, so.
In our, in our exchange of oneperson bring a song, one person
bring an album.
Uh, we're on our fourthinstallment and what we were
(01:40):
just laughing about is, uh, itsounded like I was confused once
again.
I really wasn't.
'cause I've just been sittinghere pulling together stuff.
So I'm doing the song.
You're doing the whole album,
alexi (01:52):
Yes.
Glen Erickson (01:53):
is great.
Okay, so why don't we.
I just like it when you gofirst.
So I don't know if we'rebreaking whatever is, did we do
it the other way around before?
Do you remember?
alexi (02:02):
Yeah.
It's
Glen Erickson (02:03):
It was always Okay, then we'll stick to it.
alexi (02:05):
Thank
Glen Erickson (02:06):
thought you didn't remember either.
And so that I could just goDealer's choice, but apparently
no dealer's choice for me.
Okay.
Well song first.
And I gave you, I told you lastweek that there was an Easter
egg in there because you saidsomething about the album that
you had and that it was sort ofspurred on by something I.
alexi (02:26):
Yes.
Glen Erickson (02:27):
was spurred on by something and I can't remember
actually at the exact moment howall of that went down.
But then I said, well, my songis actually, there's an Easter
egg in a part of what ourconversation was.
So the part of our conversationwas about people who have
appeared and played at our folkfest, which I've, uh, been very
grateful and had incredibleprivilege through some of the
(02:50):
work that I do with the EdmontonFolk Fest, who have had like all
access passes for.
Over a decade now for me and thefamily and, and so there's no
excuse, I guess is what I'msaying, that I should have
missed anybody or had everyopportunity to see people and
been well informed, and yet Icontinually have a regret almost
(03:10):
it feels like every year.
So this is one of my regrets,Lexi.
Oh yeah, you can guess
alexi (03:17):
I
Glen Erickson (03:17):
I know what you're probably gonna guess.
So.
alexi (03:21):
Is
Glen Erickson (03:21):
I'll just let you know.
I have a guess about your guess
alexi (03:24):
No, no, no.
Is it?
No.
Is it?
I don't wanna say here last namethough.
Angie McMahon.
Glen Erickson (03:31):
McMahon.
alexi (03:32):
McMahon?
Glen Erickson (03:34):
Yeah.
alexi (03:34):
it?
Glen Erickson (03:35):
Yeah.
You have to understand how thatword is.
That name is, is spoken.
It's pretty important.
alexi (03:40):
Is it her?
Glen Erickson (03:42):
No, it's not.
But I knew, that was my guess ofwho you would guess,
alexi (03:46):
What is someone
Glen Erickson (03:47):
because
alexi (03:47):
and was
Glen Erickson (03:48):
no big, you know, you're not wrong.
Like in the top two songs that Iabsolutely adore by artists that
I've missed at our folk fest,and I'm like horribly
embarrassed.
That's one of them.
That was maybe actually numberone, but that's not my choice
for today.
Yeah.
Uh, so my choice for today is adifferent artist whose name is
(04:08):
Kevin Morby.
And Kevin Morby, I hadcompletely missed.
And then in a playlist that Ishare with my two best friends,
Greg and Joel.
Greg posted.
And, and nobody's done this atall yet.
It's, it's sharing songs.
And he posted the entire recordby this guy, Kevin Morby.
So, uh, the record is called,this is a Photograph, the song
(04:31):
is called, this is a Photograph.
So that's, I wanna share thatsong.
And the reason that it came backto me recently is.
I've been listening to more andmore deep cuts from the Song
Exploder podcast, which goes allthe way back to like, I think
2015.
Like it's been one of theoldest, most consistent ones, so
there's a lot of material tomind and I was just kind of
(04:53):
thumbing through it.
And am I keeping you up, Lexie?
alexi (04:56):
No, I've been
Glen Erickson (04:57):
Right there.
alexi (04:58):
in a
Glen Erickson (04:58):
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Alright, that's fine.
Okay.
So I was thumbing through SongExploder and then I saw this
song was in there and I thought,oh, that's awesome.
Like, I didn't think that thatwould necessarily make the cut
on, uh, on a song Exploderepisode.
And I listened to it and itturned out just to actually be
one of my favorite song Exploderepisodes.
So the song, this is aphotograph from that album.
(05:21):
And, and the podcast, if anybodywants to go back and let's do,
it's from, I think 2022.
So it's a while back, like justafter the song was released.
Kevin Morby.
so he is, I love his voice, sohis voice to me is like a.
Like the modern day almost.
It's, it's got like the a LouReed quality.
(05:42):
Like at first I thought becausehe's, you know, a lot of his
stuff can be pretty more in thefolk.
Indie folk world.
I start thinking Bob Dylan, justthe way he just kinda gives away
vowels and just lets words kindof fall off at the end all the
time.
And in some instances, almostTOXs it feels like, which is
(06:03):
very, I think universally, Dylanasked to people, but the
smoothness of the tone and theway he still moves between words
like vocally, tonally.
alexi (06:14):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (06:14):
Is So Lou Reed to me, which is another very old
velvet underground throwback,but just somebody who's really
famous for that and it's sosmooth.
And the song when he, when I, sothe reason I wanted to share it
as like a song that I wouldshare to anybody is because
number one, it sits in thiscannon of.
(06:36):
Incredible songs.
I can't believe I didn't get tosee live.
Like it just went right under myradar and PLAs me.
And then now I listen to it alot.
I just can't, I go back to it alot.
It is based on two things that Ilove.
It is just got this undeniablelittle guitar look and, and
it's, and it's, it basicallyalmost runs the whole way
through and.
(06:58):
And, and it is really cool.
And when I hear him talk aboutit and describe how he built the
song and how he was actuallylistening to some other very
well-known song where the phraseof the guitar L kind of goes up
at the end, and he was justmessing around with something
that sounded similar, and thenhe just let it go down.
And then as soon as thathappened, he was like, oh, I've
(07:18):
got something.
Here.
And then he just kept repeatingit and then he just started
building words over top.
and then it, it's this storyabout his dad and being with his
family and finding these oldphotographs and the story, the
more he keeps telling it is justso literal.
And I don't know if youencounter where you listen to a
song and you think the lyrics.
(07:39):
Are these like actual thingsthat happened?
Do you know what I mean?
Because the, the pieces all arejust, those are just too exact
to not, you know, to get piecedtogether that way.
And so he is like, essentiallyhe was literally inspired by a
photograph they found of hisdad.
And, and then he starts talkingabout sort of the picture his
(08:00):
dad had of in his mind of whenhe was young, from when he was
young.
And, And his dad sort of dealingwith sickness and sort of, uh,
he sort of, well, he essentiallydoes, he, he kind of quotes a
famous era of boxing in theworld, in the mainstream world
between these two boxers, sugarRay and, and Roberto Duran and,
(08:21):
and this famous fight.
Which was a rematch when this, Ithink Mexican boxer, Roberto
Duram basically said, no MAs,and just walked off.
He's just like, no more.
He knew he was losing orsomething and he basically
quotes all this as,'cause it washis dad's favorite thing to
watch.
And, and he talked about thatthing all the time.
And then it was a metaphor alsofor his dad, kind of like being
(08:43):
really kind of cocky at theworld in some difficult times
and stuff.
Anyhow, the whole piecingtogether of it.
Made so much sense, and the songis just so, sometimes the song
to me is so perfectly written,it feels like somebody grabbed
it down out of the universe.
Do you know what I mean?
Like it was already made andsomebody was just lucky enough
to have stumbled upon it thatday.
alexi (09:05):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (09:06):
It's one of those kinds of songs.
So.
To me, I absolutely love it.
I'm so sad I ever miss seeing itplayed live closer to the heyday
of when that came out.
You know, just that same energy.
But maybe I'll get anotherchance
alexi (09:20):
Maybe
Glen Erickson (09:20):
to see the guy.
Yeah.
But there's a lot to that song,a lot to that meeting.
I think if anybody's interestedat all.
They should also listen to thatsong Spoiler episode and get all
the background on how he wrotethe song.
So,
alexi (09:34):
that.
Glen Erickson (09:35):
yeah, that's it.
That's me.
alexi (09:36):
Well, maybe he'll come back to Folk Fest and then
you'll get another,
Glen Erickson (09:39):
Maybe
alexi (09:40):
another chance.
Huh?
My turn.
Glen Erickson (09:44):
abs.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's no other turns.
alexi (09:47):
Um, kidding.
Okay.
I feel like this one's alsopredictable.
I'm not gonna lie.
Um, and I don't even have reallya story for it.
It's just kind of, know.
When we, when I first listenedto it, I think the first thing I
told you was like, oh, it's justlike a zero skip album.
And some of the songs feel sodifferent.
And when you listen to them,like individually, you're like,
(10:08):
how are these in the same album?
And then when you listen to thewhole album, like as a whole and
you're like, oh, like these aremeant to all be in the same
album.
but this is her Garden StateVampire by Joe P.
It's, it's also very short andsweet and I really like it.
It's 37 minutes, um, I think 11songs, which is very
Glen Erickson (10:27):
That's interesting.
Well, it's interesting you pointthat out because I mean, he's
one of a hundred now to coverBruce Springsteen's.
I'm on fire, which you sharedwith me, but it's a shorter
version of I'm on fire.
I don't think he even makes itto two minutes before he
finishes.
alexi (10:43):
a hundred.
Uh, a minute.
57.
Glen Erickson (10:46):
you could have said 157 seconds.
We'd accept it,
alexi (10:49):
Thank you.
Glen Erickson (10:49):
but it wouldn't be accurate.
'cause that's not right either.
yeah, so the guy likes short andsweet music.
alexi (10:55):
yeah,
Glen Erickson (10:56):
I.
alexi (10:56):
I, yeah, I don't know.
I really like it.
Like the one song, um, birthdayBaby.
like pretty slow and like, forlack of a better term in the
moment, like, like almost like asad, sad or slower song.
And then there's other oneslike.
Off my mind or like she got me,like other ones that are super
upbeat and, uh, one or two on,they're like very, very fast
(11:19):
paced.
but they just all work andthey're all good.
There's no skips.
I like all of them.
When I first listened, I didn'tlike two of the songs so much.
but they very heavily grew on meand so now I'm a big fan.
But
Glen Erickson (11:34):
Well, I mean, off my mind is, on multiple
playlists of mine now, thanks toyou and probably a song that if
I feel like I need to sharesomething newish to somebody
alexi (11:45):
A
Glen Erickson (11:45):
that wouldn't know them, and maybe also be
surprised.
That old man Glen is still intouch?
I would probably pick, thatwould be one of the songs that I
would pick.
'cause I just think it's reallygood.
I'm curious about your feelingabout them being very different.
Because if I listened to arecord and at first the song
seemed quite different, I feellike the songwriter maybe just
(12:07):
was still in a phase that theyhadn't fully found themself.
Like they still felt like theyneeded to try a bunch of
different things.
But you're saying, but you'resaying when you listen to it.
Like you realize that yeah, allof these are meant to be
together.
alexi (12:21):
Yeah.
I don't even know how todescribe it.
It's like, it's not even likeundertones, it's just like they
all make sense.
Maybe it's like the lyrics orthe like general kind of
portrayed feeling or the, maybethe feeling that the songs leave
you with, but like they're,yeah, they're all just quite
different.
But they all make like kind of,I don't know, make me feel the
(12:43):
same type of way.
And it's just such a good albumfor like, I can just hit shuffle
on the thing in so manydifferent like times, like if
I'm driving to work or likegetting ready for the date or
like with people chatting in thecar and I need like background
music or I'm like.
Um, studying, like, it's justlike, I, it is just one of those
(13:04):
albums that I think that's theother reason I chose it is like,
it's not often that I save analbum on Spotify instead of just
like, add songs from it to likeplaylists.
Um, or like, I know that I canjust, if I want to listen to a
album in its whole that I canjust search it and I don't need
to be like lazy.
Um, but I don't often enough dothat, that I save one.
(13:25):
But it's one
Glen Erickson (13:26):
Yeah.
alexi (13:26):
think three that I have like the album.
Downloaded and saved.
So when I go to like myplaylists, the album as a whole
is also there.
'cause I so often just go andplay it as a
Glen Erickson (13:37):
Hmm.
alexi (13:38):
and I want on CD so bad, but it's so expensive,
Glen Erickson (13:42):
That's crazy that we have to say that.
That's so expensive.
But, um.
I mean, that's an interestingfeeling because I think you're
right.
Like I lessen less if I go andlook and I think I just wanna
play an album start to finish, Ifeel like I'm going back to my
old standard favorites andthat's it.
I'm either gonna pick one offour records by the national, or
(14:03):
one of three records by the waron drugs or you know, or, or
bleachers, or a couple of these.
But I mean.
All of those are from quite awhile ago.
I feel like you're right.
Less and less Well, am I allowedto give an honorable mention
even though it's out of turn?
alexi (14:19):
Is it an album too?
Glen Erickson (14:21):
Yeah,
alexi (14:22):
crazy.
Yeah, go ahead.
Glen Erickson (14:24):
so, well'cause we're just talking about the
experience of it.
alexi (14:27):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (14:28):
So the brand new record by this guy Ken Yates,
who is a, a favorite.
I only share him, I don't knowanybody else who knows.
Ken Yates, I Canadian artartist, I'm pretty sure.
Um,
alexi (14:39):
your underground
Glen Erickson (14:40):
with.
alexi (14:41):
hard
Glen Erickson (14:41):
With Mike Angus of the band.
So Mike and I share the love ofthis guy and I think Mike
introduced him to me, to behonest.
And at first I think we listenedto some of his early stuff and
thought his voice had an AndySCH quality.
Um, and so we were justinterested in it, but the music
was a little different.
But, This record feels more likeDonovan Woods a little bit with
(15:04):
the, with the vocals.
But the, the whole album isconsistent.
So it's not like you're Joe pit's the songs all feel like
they're cut from the exact samecloth, but they, some of them
have just that little bit morecharacter.
And if every other song kind ofhas like real character despite
things feeling the same,
alexi (15:24):
Yeah,
Glen Erickson (15:24):
don't know.
That's really attractive.
And I, I was driving the othernight'cause it was about the
fourth time.
I listened to this thing in arow, so you'll have a chuckle
about that.
But,
alexi (15:33):
yeah.
Glen Erickson (15:33):
and the only phrase that came to mind was
like, this whole record feelslike a warm blanket to me.
Like, and I really liked it andI've missed having one of those.
alexi (15:42):
I like
Glen Erickson (15:43):
Right.
Yeah.
That, so that's cool.
alexi (15:46):
Cute.
Glen Erickson (15:47):
That's cool.
Well, I'm glad you brought thatone up.
'cause I think, out of all themusic you introduced me to, that
Joe P record might be myfavorite of all of them.
alexi (15:56):
a
Glen Erickson (15:56):
So
alexi (15:57):
You know, I was gonna
Glen Erickson (15:57):
like, yeah,
alexi (15:58):
um, mom talking and I was gonna like sail with the Blue
Rodeo albums and, and be soserious about it for a few
minutes.
And then, I.
Glen Erickson (16:10):
I would never take you seriously if you tried
that.
alexi (16:13):
was
Glen Erickson (16:14):
I,
alexi (16:14):
I think I would say the name and you would be like,
okay, come on now.
Like
Glen Erickson (16:18):
that's funny.
Who opened your door behind you?
The dog.
alexi (16:21):
dog.
Glen Erickson (16:22):
Okay.
We can't get mad at the dogthen.
alexi (16:25):
Well also,'cause
Glen Erickson (16:25):
Um,
alexi (16:26):
um,
Glen Erickson (16:27):
doesn't close.
I know.
alexi (16:28):
no, but she learned how to open it even when I have it
shut
Glen Erickson (16:32):
Oh, smart Doge.
alexi (16:33):
no stopping her now.
Glen Erickson (16:36):
Smart Doge.
Well, why wouldn't she want tocome in and be with you?
That's so sweet.
Okay, two quick things while wewrap up, this little summer mini
series'cause then we're gonnatake a few weeks off before we
launch season two, which we'reexcited about and we're already
recording episodes.
In the, can they like to say inthe biz.
I love it.
I'm so happy about where thingshave already started, which is
(16:59):
gonna be great.
But, so two things I wanted todraw attention to.
One, one was specifically arounda partnership that we've kind of
signed on to.
So the very last episode ofseason one right, was my friend
Jessica Lemon of LemonEntertainment in the lemon
stage.
And.
They are doing this thing calledMusic Day in Canada and they did
(17:23):
it last year and it's like, uh,an initiative to start promoting
both venues and kind of up andcoming artists in places and
just kind of give thatgrassroots focus and, I.
They're trying to expand it thisyear, which I think is exciting
into more cities and moreexposure, and so we decided that
we'd partner on that and thatalmost famous enough would maybe
(17:45):
do a version of, we're stillworking out the details, like a
little side bonus So you canlook forward to hearing more of
that from us.
And on our socials, I'll besharing a lot of their things as
well.
And then working towardsbuilding some content around,
promoting all of that andhopefully getting people to buy
into supporting some.
(18:06):
Some local efforts in their, intheir places across the country,
and we love a, we love anational focus thing.
alexi (18:13):
Yes.
Glen Erickson (18:13):
Because it's very easy for us to get Edmonton and
Alberta focused.
so that's great.
So that's number one I wouldwant people to pay attention to.
Number two, the other reason Iwould ask any listeners to pay
attention to the socials is I'llprobably be doing some of my
shameless pleading for.
Um, people to do what they canif they appreciate our efforts
(18:37):
and what we're loving to do withthe podcast.
Um, the only way to crack thealgorithms, everybody knows it
is.
Some version of authenticengagement, so to speak, right.
Engagement, air quotes.
but it, you know, I just, I needreal people if they care even a
(18:59):
little bit and make an effort toeither share a thing or click on
a thing or listen to a thing allthe way through.
yeah, that's the only way for meto sort of be able to grow.
Things really well, besides theobvious, which is like, work
hard at making a good podcast,uh, for people, which is
actually all that you and Ireally care about.
(19:19):
but you can't, you, you get evengood things get buried and so I
have to be willing to ask forhelp.
So I may be out there asking forpeople's help as we get rolling
with season two to kick it offwith a bang.
That's all.
alexi (19:36):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Glen Erickson (19:37):
it.
I'm not gonna ask you to put itall over your socials.
Don't worry.
alexi (19:41):
I'm just a girl.
Glen Erickson (19:43):
Are you just, oh, that's the answer.
Oh my goodness.
alexi (19:47):
I am just
Glen Erickson (19:48):
Okay.
Okay.
That, that seems to cover somany different things.
I don't know how or where itcame from, but good for you.
Okay.
Uh, that works for me.
Thanks for doing the fun serieswith me.
It's been, it's been a lot offun.
Yeah.
Well, we'll we could have justslid over that, but I guess,
yeah,
alexi (20:05):
Oh.
Glen Erickson (20:06):
it is, the fun is more important than the
mistakes, Lexi.
alexi (20:10):
yeah, I think we killed it regardless, so it's okay.
Glen Erickson (20:13):
Okay, good.
I'm glad you think so.
Okay.
Thank you.
Love you.
alexi (20:16):
you.
Bye.
Glen Erickson (20:17):
Okay, bye.
Seemed so upset that I had it wrong,
alexi (00:21):
I was like, well, crap, because what if you have it
wrong?
And now we're
Glen Erickson (00:25):
and,
alexi (00:26):
album.
Glen Erickson (00:26):
and then we would be sitting here unprepared,
which, which we're already,wearing a little bit of
unpreparedness openly becauseit's, uh, it's Thursday as we
record this, which normally wewould've posted it.
We've posted Thursday morningsince we started.
That's our schedule.
And you and I both completelyblitzed on what day it was.
alexi (00:48):
Like, I wish we could go
Glen Erickson (00:50):
uh,
alexi (00:50):
our conversation last night.
'cause we probably just seenlike insane people.
Glen Erickson (00:54):
yeah.
'cause we were just talking likeit was the day before.
Clearly, like a hundred percent.
Well, we've probablydisappointed 20 people, so I
apologize to those 20 people whomight have expected something
this morning.
I'm being a little facetious, ofcourse, but that's the way it
goes.
Okay, well this is, uh, this isnumber four, Lexie.
And of Post Fame Plus our summerseries, uh, between myself, your
(01:20):
host, Glen Erickson, and, uh,Lexi Alexi Erickson, also your
host.
yeah, so let's, let's kick rightinto it, except I don't remember
who usually took a turn to gofirst, so.
In our, in our exchange of oneperson bring a song, one person
bring an album.
Uh, we're on our fourthinstallment and what we were
(01:40):
just laughing about is, uh, itsounded like I was confused once
again.
I really wasn't.
'cause I've just been sittinghere pulling together stuff.
So I'm doing the song.
You're doing the whole album,
alexi (01:52):
Yes.
Glen Erickson (01:53):
is great.
Okay, so why don't we.
I just like it when you gofirst.
So I don't know if we'rebreaking whatever is, did we do
it the other way around before?
Do you remember?
alexi (02:02):
Yeah.
It's
Glen Erickson (02:03):
It was always Okay, then we'll stick to it.
alexi (02:05):
Thank
Glen Erickson (02:06):
thought you didn't remember either.
And so that I could just goDealer's choice, but apparently
no dealer's choice for me.
Okay.
Well song first.
And I gave you, I told you lastweek that there was an Easter
egg in there because you saidsomething about the album that
you had and that it was sort ofspurred on by something I.
alexi (02:26):
Yes.
Glen Erickson (02:27):
was spurred on by something and I can't remember
actually at the exact moment howall of that went down.
But then I said, well, my songis actually, there's an Easter
egg in a part of what ourconversation was.
So the part of our conversationwas about people who have
appeared and played at our folkfest, which I've, uh, been very
grateful and had incredibleprivilege through some of the
(02:50):
work that I do with the EdmontonFolk Fest, who have had like all
access passes for.
Over a decade now for me and thefamily and, and so there's no
excuse, I guess is what I'msaying, that I should have
missed anybody or had everyopportunity to see people and
been well informed, and yet Icontinually have a regret almost
(03:10):
it feels like every year.
So this is one of my regrets,Lexi.
Oh yeah, you can guess
alexi (03:17):
I
Glen Erickson (03:17):
I know what you're probably gonna guess.
So.
alexi (03:21):
Is
Glen Erickson (03:21):
I'll just let you know.
I have a guess about your guess
alexi (03:24):
No, no, no.
Is it?
No.
Is it?
I don't wanna say here last namethough.
Angie McMahon.
Glen Erickson (03:31):
McMahon.
alexi (03:32):
McMahon?
Glen Erickson (03:34):
Yeah.
alexi (03:34):
it?
Glen Erickson (03:35):
Yeah.
You have to understand how thatword is.
That name is, is spoken.
It's pretty important.
alexi (03:40):
Is it her?
Glen Erickson (03:42):
No, it's not.
But I knew, that was my guess ofwho you would guess,
alexi (03:46):
What is someone
Glen Erickson (03:47):
because
alexi (03:47):
and was
Glen Erickson (03:48):
no big, you know, you're not wrong.
Like in the top two songs that Iabsolutely adore by artists that
I've missed at our folk fest,and I'm like horribly
embarrassed.
That's one of them.
That was maybe actually numberone, but that's not my choice
for today.
Yeah.
Uh, so my choice for today is adifferent artist whose name is
(04:08):
Kevin Morby.
And Kevin Morby, I hadcompletely missed.
And then in a playlist that Ishare with my two best friends,
Greg and Joel.
Greg posted.
And, and nobody's done this atall yet.
It's, it's sharing songs.
And he posted the entire recordby this guy, Kevin Morby.
So, uh, the record is called,this is a Photograph, the song
(04:31):
is called, this is a Photograph.
So that's, I wanna share thatsong.
And the reason that it came backto me recently is.
I've been listening to more andmore deep cuts from the Song
Exploder podcast, which goes allthe way back to like, I think
2015.
Like it's been one of theoldest, most consistent ones, so
there's a lot of material tomind and I was just kind of
(04:53):
thumbing through it.
And am I keeping you up, Lexie?
alexi (04:56):
No, I've been
Glen Erickson (04:57):
Right there.
alexi (04:58):
in a
Glen Erickson (04:58):
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Alright, that's fine.
Okay.
So I was thumbing through SongExploder and then I saw this
song was in there and I thought,oh, that's awesome.
Like, I didn't think that thatwould necessarily make the cut
on, uh, on a song Exploderepisode.
And I listened to it and itturned out just to actually be
one of my favorite song Exploderepisodes.
So the song, this is aphotograph from that album.
(05:21):
And, and the podcast, if anybodywants to go back and let's do,
it's from, I think 2022.
So it's a while back, like justafter the song was released.
Kevin Morby.
so he is, I love his voice, sohis voice to me is like a.
Like the modern day almost.
It's, it's got like the a LouReed quality.
(05:42):
Like at first I thought becausehe's, you know, a lot of his
stuff can be pretty more in thefolk.
Indie folk world.
I start thinking Bob Dylan, justthe way he just kinda gives away
vowels and just lets words kindof fall off at the end all the
time.
And in some instances, almostTOXs it feels like, which is
(06:03):
very, I think universally, Dylanasked to people, but the
smoothness of the tone and theway he still moves between words
like vocally, tonally.
alexi (06:14):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (06:14):
Is So Lou Reed to me, which is another very old
velvet underground throwback,but just somebody who's really
famous for that and it's sosmooth.
And the song when he, when I, sothe reason I wanted to share it
as like a song that I wouldshare to anybody is because
number one, it sits in thiscannon of.
(06:36):
Incredible songs.
I can't believe I didn't get tosee live.
Like it just went right under myradar and PLAs me.
And then now I listen to it alot.
I just can't, I go back to it alot.
It is based on two things that Ilove.
It is just got this undeniablelittle guitar look and, and
it's, and it's, it basicallyalmost runs the whole way
through and.
(06:58):
And, and it is really cool.
And when I hear him talk aboutit and describe how he built the
song and how he was actuallylistening to some other very
well-known song where the phraseof the guitar L kind of goes up
at the end, and he was justmessing around with something
that sounded similar, and thenhe just let it go down.
And then as soon as thathappened, he was like, oh, I've
(07:18):
got something.
Here.
And then he just kept repeatingit and then he just started
building words over top.
and then it, it's this storyabout his dad and being with his
family and finding these oldphotographs and the story, the
more he keeps telling it is justso literal.
And I don't know if youencounter where you listen to a
song and you think the lyrics.
(07:39):
Are these like actual thingsthat happened?
Do you know what I mean?
Because the, the pieces all arejust, those are just too exact
to not, you know, to get piecedtogether that way.
And so he is like, essentiallyhe was literally inspired by a
photograph they found of hisdad.
And, and then he starts talkingabout sort of the picture his
(08:00):
dad had of in his mind of whenhe was young, from when he was
young.
And, And his dad sort of dealingwith sickness and sort of, uh,
he sort of, well, he essentiallydoes, he, he kind of quotes a
famous era of boxing in theworld, in the mainstream world
between these two boxers, sugarRay and, and Roberto Duran and,
(08:21):
and this famous fight.
Which was a rematch when this, Ithink Mexican boxer, Roberto
Duram basically said, no MAs,and just walked off.
He's just like, no more.
He knew he was losing orsomething and he basically
quotes all this as,'cause it washis dad's favorite thing to
watch.
And, and he talked about thatthing all the time.
And then it was a metaphor alsofor his dad, kind of like being
(08:43):
really kind of cocky at theworld in some difficult times
and stuff.
Anyhow, the whole piecingtogether of it.
Made so much sense, and the songis just so, sometimes the song
to me is so perfectly written,it feels like somebody grabbed
it down out of the universe.
Do you know what I mean?
Like it was already made andsomebody was just lucky enough
to have stumbled upon it thatday.
alexi (09:05):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (09:06):
It's one of those kinds of songs.
So.
To me, I absolutely love it.
I'm so sad I ever miss seeing itplayed live closer to the heyday
of when that came out.
You know, just that same energy.
But maybe I'll get anotherchance
alexi (09:20):
Maybe
Glen Erickson (09:20):
to see the guy.
Yeah.
But there's a lot to that song,a lot to that meeting.
I think if anybody's interestedat all.
They should also listen to thatsong Spoiler episode and get all
the background on how he wrotethe song.
So,
alexi (09:34):
that.
Glen Erickson (09:35):
yeah, that's it.
That's me.
alexi (09:36):
Well, maybe he'll come back to Folk Fest and then
you'll get another,
Glen Erickson (09:39):
Maybe
alexi (09:40):
another chance.
Huh?
My turn.
Glen Erickson (09:44):
abs.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's no other turns.
alexi (09:47):
Um, kidding.
Okay.
I feel like this one's alsopredictable.
I'm not gonna lie.
Um, and I don't even have reallya story for it.
It's just kind of, know.
When we, when I first listenedto it, I think the first thing I
told you was like, oh, it's justlike a zero skip album.
And some of the songs feel sodifferent.
And when you listen to them,like individually, you're like,
(10:08):
how are these in the same album?
And then when you listen to thewhole album, like as a whole and
you're like, oh, like these aremeant to all be in the same
album.
but this is her Garden StateVampire by Joe P.
It's, it's also very short andsweet and I really like it.
It's 37 minutes, um, I think 11songs, which is very
Glen Erickson (10:27):
That's interesting.
Well, it's interesting you pointthat out because I mean, he's
one of a hundred now to coverBruce Springsteen's.
I'm on fire, which you sharedwith me, but it's a shorter
version of I'm on fire.
I don't think he even makes itto two minutes before he
finishes.
alexi (10:43):
a hundred.
Uh, a minute.
57.
Glen Erickson (10:46):
you could have said 157 seconds.
We'd accept it,
alexi (10:49):
Thank you.
Glen Erickson (10:49):
but it wouldn't be accurate.
'cause that's not right either.
yeah, so the guy likes short andsweet music.
alexi (10:55):
yeah,
Glen Erickson (10:56):
I.
alexi (10:56):
I, yeah, I don't know.
I really like it.
Like the one song, um, birthdayBaby.
like pretty slow and like, forlack of a better term in the
moment, like, like almost like asad, sad or slower song.
And then there's other oneslike.
Off my mind or like she got me,like other ones that are super
upbeat and, uh, one or two on,they're like very, very fast
(11:19):
paced.
but they just all work andthey're all good.
There's no skips.
I like all of them.
When I first listened, I didn'tlike two of the songs so much.
but they very heavily grew on meand so now I'm a big fan.
But
Glen Erickson (11:34):
Well, I mean, off my mind is, on multiple
playlists of mine now, thanks toyou and probably a song that if
I feel like I need to sharesomething newish to somebody
alexi (11:45):
A
Glen Erickson (11:45):
that wouldn't know them, and maybe also be
surprised.
That old man Glen is still intouch?
I would probably pick, thatwould be one of the songs that I
would pick.
'cause I just think it's reallygood.
I'm curious about your feelingabout them being very different.
Because if I listened to arecord and at first the song
seemed quite different, I feellike the songwriter maybe just
(12:07):
was still in a phase that theyhadn't fully found themself.
Like they still felt like theyneeded to try a bunch of
different things.
But you're saying, but you'resaying when you listen to it.
Like you realize that yeah, allof these are meant to be
together.
alexi (12:21):
Yeah.
I don't even know how todescribe it.
It's like, it's not even likeundertones, it's just like they
all make sense.
Maybe it's like the lyrics orthe like general kind of
portrayed feeling or the, maybethe feeling that the songs leave
you with, but like they're,yeah, they're all just quite
different.
But they all make like kind of,I don't know, make me feel the
(12:43):
same type of way.
And it's just such a good albumfor like, I can just hit shuffle
on the thing in so manydifferent like times, like if
I'm driving to work or likegetting ready for the date or
like with people chatting in thecar and I need like background
music or I'm like.
Um, studying, like, it's justlike, I, it is just one of those
(13:04):
albums that I think that's theother reason I chose it is like,
it's not often that I save analbum on Spotify instead of just
like, add songs from it to likeplaylists.
Um, or like, I know that I canjust, if I want to listen to a
album in its whole that I canjust search it and I don't need
to be like lazy.
Um, but I don't often enough dothat, that I save one.
(13:25):
But it's one
Glen Erickson (13:26):
Yeah.
alexi (13:26):
think three that I have like the album.
Downloaded and saved.
So when I go to like myplaylists, the album as a whole
is also there.
'cause I so often just go andplay it as a
Glen Erickson (13:37):
Hmm.
alexi (13:38):
and I want on CD so bad, but it's so expensive,
Glen Erickson (13:42):
That's crazy that we have to say that.
That's so expensive.
But, um.
I mean, that's an interestingfeeling because I think you're
right.
Like I lessen less if I go andlook and I think I just wanna
play an album start to finish, Ifeel like I'm going back to my
old standard favorites andthat's it.
I'm either gonna pick one offour records by the national, or
(14:03):
one of three records by the waron drugs or you know, or, or
bleachers, or a couple of these.
But I mean.
All of those are from quite awhile ago.
I feel like you're right.
Less and less Well, am I allowedto give an honorable mention
even though it's out of turn?
alexi (14:19):
Is it an album too?
Glen Erickson (14:21):
Yeah,
alexi (14:22):
crazy.
Yeah, go ahead.
Glen Erickson (14:24):
so, well'cause we're just talking about the
experience of it.
alexi (14:27):
Yeah.
Glen Erickson (14:28):
So the brand new record by this guy Ken Yates,
who is a, a favorite.
I only share him, I don't knowanybody else who knows.
Ken Yates, I Canadian artartist, I'm pretty sure.
Um,
alexi (14:39):
your underground
Glen Erickson (14:40):
with.
alexi (14:41):
hard
Glen Erickson (14:41):
With Mike Angus of the band.
So Mike and I share the love ofthis guy and I think Mike
introduced him to me, to behonest.
And at first I think we listenedto some of his early stuff and
thought his voice had an AndySCH quality.
Um, and so we were justinterested in it, but the music
was a little different.
But, This record feels more likeDonovan Woods a little bit with
(15:04):
the, with the vocals.
But the, the whole album isconsistent.
So it's not like you're Joe pit's the songs all feel like
they're cut from the exact samecloth, but they, some of them
have just that little bit morecharacter.
And if every other song kind ofhas like real character despite
things feeling the same,
alexi (15:24):
Yeah,
Glen Erickson (15:24):
don't know.
That's really attractive.
And I, I was driving the othernight'cause it was about the
fourth time.
I listened to this thing in arow, so you'll have a chuckle
about that.
But,
alexi (15:33):
yeah.
Glen Erickson (15:33):
and the only phrase that came to mind was
like, this whole record feelslike a warm blanket to me.
Like, and I really liked it andI've missed having one of those.
alexi (15:42):
I like
Glen Erickson (15:43):
Right.
Yeah.
That, so that's cool.
alexi (15:46):
Cute.
Glen Erickson (15:47):
That's cool.
Well, I'm glad you brought thatone up.
'cause I think, out of all themusic you introduced me to, that
Joe P record might be myfavorite of all of them.
alexi (15:56):
a
Glen Erickson (15:56):
So
alexi (15:57):
You know, I was gonna
Glen Erickson (15:57):
like, yeah,
alexi (15:58):
um, mom talking and I was gonna like sail with the Blue
Rodeo albums and, and be soserious about it for a few
minutes.
And then, I.
Glen Erickson (16:10):
I would never take you seriously if you tried
that.
alexi (16:13):
was
Glen Erickson (16:14):
I,
alexi (16:14):
I think I would say the name and you would be like,
okay, come on now.
Like
Glen Erickson (16:18):
that's funny.
Who opened your door behind you?
The dog.
alexi (16:21):
dog.
Glen Erickson (16:22):
Okay.
We can't get mad at the dogthen.
alexi (16:25):
Well also,'cause
Glen Erickson (16:25):
Um,
alexi (16:26):
um,
Glen Erickson (16:27):
doesn't close.
I know.
alexi (16:28):
no, but she learned how to open it even when I have it
shut
Glen Erickson (16:32):
Oh, smart Doge.
alexi (16:33):
no stopping her now.
Glen Erickson (16:36):
Smart Doge.
Well, why wouldn't she want tocome in and be with you?
That's so sweet.
Okay, two quick things while wewrap up, this little summer mini
series'cause then we're gonnatake a few weeks off before we
launch season two, which we'reexcited about and we're already
recording episodes.
In the, can they like to say inthe biz.
I love it.
I'm so happy about where thingshave already started, which is
(16:59):
gonna be great.
But, so two things I wanted todraw attention to.
One, one was specifically arounda partnership that we've kind of
signed on to.
So the very last episode ofseason one right, was my friend
Jessica Lemon of LemonEntertainment in the lemon
stage.
And.
They are doing this thing calledMusic Day in Canada and they did
(17:23):
it last year and it's like, uh,an initiative to start promoting
both venues and kind of up andcoming artists in places and
just kind of give thatgrassroots focus and, I.
They're trying to expand it thisyear, which I think is exciting
into more cities and moreexposure, and so we decided that
we'd partner on that and thatalmost famous enough would maybe
(17:45):
do a version of, we're stillworking out the details, like a
little side bonus So you canlook forward to hearing more of
that from us.
And on our socials, I'll besharing a lot of their things as
well.
And then working towardsbuilding some content around,
promoting all of that andhopefully getting people to buy
into supporting some.
(18:06):
Some local efforts in their, intheir places across the country,
and we love a, we love anational focus thing.
alexi (18:13):
Yes.
Glen Erickson (18:13):
Because it's very easy for us to get Edmonton and
Alberta focused.
so that's great.
So that's number one I wouldwant people to pay attention to.
Number two, the other reason Iwould ask any listeners to pay
attention to the socials is I'llprobably be doing some of my
shameless pleading for.
Um, people to do what they canif they appreciate our efforts
(18:37):
and what we're loving to do withthe podcast.
Um, the only way to crack thealgorithms, everybody knows it
is.
Some version of authenticengagement, so to speak, right.
Engagement, air quotes.
but it, you know, I just, I needreal people if they care even a
(18:59):
little bit and make an effort toeither share a thing or click on
a thing or listen to a thing allthe way through.
yeah, that's the only way for meto sort of be able to grow.
Things really well, besides theobvious, which is like, work
hard at making a good podcast,uh, for people, which is
actually all that you and Ireally care about.
(19:19):
but you can't, you, you get evengood things get buried and so I
have to be willing to ask forhelp.
So I may be out there asking forpeople's help as we get rolling
with season two to kick it offwith a bang.
That's all.
alexi (19:36):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Glen Erickson (19:37):
it.
I'm not gonna ask you to put itall over your socials.
Don't worry.
alexi (19:41):
I'm just a girl.
Glen Erickson (19:43):
Are you just, oh, that's the answer.
Oh my goodness.
alexi (19:47):
I am just
Glen Erickson (19:48):
Okay.
Okay.
That, that seems to cover somany different things.
I don't know how or where itcame from, but good for you.
Okay.
Uh, that works for me.
Thanks for doing the fun serieswith me.
It's been, it's been a lot offun.
Yeah.
Well, we'll we could have justslid over that, but I guess,
yeah,
alexi (20:05):
Oh.
Glen Erickson (20:06):
it is, the fun is more important than the
mistakes, Lexi.
alexi (20:10):
yeah, I think we killed it regardless, so it's okay.
Glen Erickson (20:13):
Okay, good.
I'm glad you think so.
Okay.
Thank you.
Love you.
alexi (20:16):
you.
Bye.
Glen Erickson (20:17):
Okay, bye.
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